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Jiren is so shit. I'm so glad Moro will raise the standard next year.
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>>285946365
>Moro
Saganbo alone is stronger than him.
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DBGT is canon.

See >>285920526
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GT is noncanon trash.

See >>285946417
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>sloppa
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>>285946365
SHITren was surpassed by Nuly onwards.
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>>285946440
The 2D stuff is still pretty bad. Only the 3D and realistic ones are good for shitposting.
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What do you think of the Australian dub?
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>dogly
No one care about that Mutt
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ENTER
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When will Uub defeat the fusion of Freeza and Jiren single-handed?
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>>285946301
>AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE OKAY YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO B-B-BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT
>moves the goalposts while messing with his faggy broccoli haircut
You can't even follow a simple fucking conversation. Nobody was arguing about whether it was officially named Super Saiyan 2 when it debuted or not. The fucking point is that when Toriyama DID debut it, he did not conceptualize it at that time as something called "Super Saiyan 2".
>inb4 dumb zoomie cuck fucking retard spergs out over a "wall of text" because it can't focus on any single thing for more than 2 seconds
I accept your concession. Blow your brains out.
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GT > POOper
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The funniest, most child-like and wacky moment of Z. This is meant for 5 year olds, clearly.
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Stop making fun of Jiren or else.
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>>285946554
Kids love violence.
I did.
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>>285946554
>he didn’t have the mental acuity to understand this panel at 300 months of age
Ngmi
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>>285946563
KEKYTRUTHY! GT is dead and gone.
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Why does Jaco's solo manga remain unadapted?
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>>285946550
Fact.
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>>285946554
Was this in the anime?
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Just don't post unfunny slop
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We need another Dr. Slump show.
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>>285946644
I want more Arale because I love her.
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>>285946632
Yes but clearly toned down.
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>>285946546
unc trippin frfr
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>>285946594
Adapting Sachie Chan + Jiya + Jaco in like 10 episodes would have made more money than Daima and Sand Land combined. Iyoku is utterly retarded.
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>>285946384
>Saganbo alone is stronger than him.
But enough about Jiren the Gay
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>>285946718
Ren would kill your favorite character.
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Is it sad that this is the best animated version of Gero's death?
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GT? Canon.
Daima? Canon.
You? Seething.
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>>285946718
>Jiren the Gay
Correct. That’s who Saganbo is stronger than.
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>>285946737
Well yeah, as the president he'd just push a button blowing up half the earth if someone disagrees with him.
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>>285946571
Or else what huh?
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>>285946405
...in fat nigger land
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Kek! What a weak "character."
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>>285946737
Jiren could kill Jiren?
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Thoughts on the Super Saiyan stage beyond the ordinary Super Saiyan?
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>>285946770
>GT? Canon.
>Daima? Canon.
...in dumbfuck fatass retard land.
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>>285946737
>Ren would kill [Moro]
Nuh uh
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>>285946806
IT'S SUPER SAIYAN 2 IT WAS ALWAYS SUPER SAIYAN 2 REEEEEEEEEEEE TFS TOLD ME SO
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>>285946785
...also known as daima wonderland
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Do the renyroo renyroo rooo rooo roooo renyroo roo roo rooooo
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>>285946839
>Team Funny Star
Based!
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>>285946806
Super Saiyan Grade 5
SSJ2
SS2
Super Saiyajin 2
Super Saiyan Rage
Beyond Super Saiyan
Ascended Saiyan
Super-Super Saiyan
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Why is Bejita getting mogged in his new for so hard?
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>>285946770
>Pan in the background
GT? Canon.
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>>285946806
Why didn't Adult Gohan/Goku/Bejita have their hair growing out high like this when they supposedly went SSJ2 in Buu saga? Was this actually Beast -SIGN- the entire time and the SSJ2 in Buu saga was something different?
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>>285946892
Vegeta is a jobber.
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>>285946892
Because SUCKjita has always sucked and is a jobber.
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What is best fusion?
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>>285946892
That shit looks so ugly it hurts the eyes.
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>>285946919
The fusion between Hit and Cooler.
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>>285946892
Saving his strength for the inevitable 4-0
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>>285946788
>he thinks Pan is weaker than Cell
Pan is even stronger than Cell.
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>>285946943
So they'll make fun of their ally but not their war criminal Emperor?
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>>285946937
Here you go bro. The exact same scene but with Goku instead.
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>>285946919
ENCHAAAAAD
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Toriyama-sensei's original plan was to have Vegeta help Cell 2 absorb 18. Vegeta would return to his villainous roots and actively fight Kirlin, Trunks, 18, and 16.
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>>285946998
>Toriyama-sensei's original plan was to [literally do what happened in the series]
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>>285946892
Bejita looks like the singer of an ‘80s hair metal band.
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>>285947025
Vegeta never fought Krillin or 16 you skullfuckingly retarded dumb shit. He also didn't help Cell absorb 18, he and Trunks scuffled while it happened.
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Thank you, Clean God.
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>>285947058
>>285947065
>>285947075
lmao
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>>285946981
>GOKUGOKUGOKUGOKU
Obsessed.
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How did Pan manage to surpass the likes of Majin Buu?
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>ooh ohh ahh ahh
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>>285947132
She was born with Ultimate level ki.
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After what Vegeat pulled with Cell and Buu the Z Fighters would be 100% justified with beating the shit out of him and gangraping him. I believe lolicon call it bratty rape correction.
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GT is noncanon. All true scholars agree on this matter.
Anyone claiming anything to the contrary is an imposter.
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Who the FUCK is vegeat?
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>>285947163
why would they bother? Vegeta, the PRINCE of all Saiyans would have easily defeated all of them. he's 3-0 against Goku, btw.
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>>285947196
What about this >>285946770
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>>285947227
SHITpigta jobbed to his own son and fucking Krillin of all people.
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>>285947196
Well said, NulyhanScholar. I am inclined to agree with you.
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>Tanked Kaoi-ken Kamehameha
>Tanked a Genkidama
>Tanked being crushed by Great Ape Gohan
>Tanked being cut by Yajirobe's sword
Saiyan arc Bejita was a TANK BEAST.
Sad that only happened that time and later he would lose to the likes of Frieza and Cell after a few punches.
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>>285947132
she never did? Pan would job to Tien, and possibly Yamcha
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>>285947246
KEKAFUCKINGROOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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>>285947246
Not funny.
Pan is Ultimate level.
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Who the FUCK is "Kaoi"??????????
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>>285947246
KEKYPOW!!
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>>285947196
Factually true when you take into account the various inconsistencies and contradictions that occur in GT when it is juxtaposed against the original series. I am forced to conclude that your assessment is true and correct.
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>>285947160
That would explain why she was never able to fully transform into SS.
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>>285947240
Vegeta went easy on Trunks because he was heir to the Saiyan crown. Krillin? lmfao, never happened.
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>>285947227
True.
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Reminder that all of your faggot ass heroes jobbed to a steel door.
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>>285947256
Then how do you explain her enormous power?
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True Canon:
>Z
Hard Canon:
>DB
Soft Canon:
>GT
Uncanon:
>Super movies
Hard Noncanon:
>Super anime
Soft Noncanon:
>Super manga
Recanon:
>Daima
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>>285947311
>FAGGOTpigta [HEADCANON]
>Krillin? [HEADCANON]
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GT is garbage. Kek.
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>>285947336
Tenshinhan wasn’t going all out so it doesn’t count
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>>285947246
I like Giru. He’s alright.
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>SHITpigta
Why is this poster melting down about the prince again lately? What triggered it?
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Behold, Gero's original vision for creating Android 18!
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Kale?
I'd rail.
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>>285947353
Krillin and Yajirobe should have raped him.
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>>285947378
>rape
That faggot would have enjoyed it.
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>>285947307
>various inconsistencies and contradictions that occur in GT
And those would be?

>against the original series
>the original series is against the original series
That doesn't make any sense..
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>>285947362
some people just can't handle seeing someone that's based. it's sad.
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>>285947353
>disingenuousness
Done.
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>>285947373
I bet her breastmilk tastes like a whey protein shake.
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>>285947246
>>285946417
Not funny btw.
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What if Baba, but young?
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>>285947337
her only real power is making pedos out themselves. she can't fight for shit.
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>>285947401
>And those would be?
Movie characters appearing. Hell being depicted incorrectly. The Black Star Dragon Balls suddenly existing. The Dragon Balls suddenly having negative consequences. These are but a few.
>>the original series is against the original series
GT is not part of the original series. It is a separately produced anime series that Toriyama did not write and considers a non-canon side story in a parallel universe to the original manga.

I know you are very, very stupid, so I hope this helps clear up some of your idiotic misunderstandings.
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BadEndXXX was correct. Bejita needs behavioral rape correction.
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True Canon:
>Z
>DB
>GT
Uncanon:
>Super movies
Hard Noncanon:
>Super anime
Soft Noncanon:
>Super manga

Canon?
>Daima
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>A block fell on my head, and I died! *cries*
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>>285947422
She’s busy in berserk
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>>285947407
>denying reality
Concession accepted. Have another btw.
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Toriyama's manga is the only canon. Everything else is capitalist bullshit.
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>>285947498
Why is poop coming out instead of blood?
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>>285947397
Yup? YUP.
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>>285947492
Unfunny btw.
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>>285947550
WOW
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All of those posts made me laugh in good faith
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>>285947307
Very true. The Black Star Dragon Balls themselves contradict the original series since Kami never had the instinct to create them until after he split into two separate beings.
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Bejita will always consent to a cock in his ass so he is impossible to rape.
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Uub... our hero...
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>>285947602
What about...
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krillin was exhausted and injured after fighting nappa so his "loss" against bejita is invalid
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>Trying to peep in on me again, Son Gohan? You're just a horny little voyeur aren't you?
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>>285947714
so much bulma porn out there and you choose to post ai
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>>285947448
>Movie characters appearing. Hell being depicted incorrectly. The Black Star Dragon Balls suddenly existing. The Dragon Balls suddenly having negative consequences. These are but a few.
According to my own theories and including this post >>285946770, DBGT does not belong in the movie realm. Hell? That was mentioned in the original manga.

>GT is not part of the original series. It is a separately produced anime series that Toriyama did not write and considers a non-canon side story in a parallel universe to the original manga
No one has ever said it was non-canon. See this post >>285946770 ? Notice how there's no mention of the movies? Does that not substantiate my claims?
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>>285947599
GTards have no way of responding to this because they didn't even know it existed. They've never read the manga.
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>jobbed to his own son
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>>285947498
>more disingenuous
Shartku lost.

>>285947311
Bodied that retard.
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>>285947754
>According to my own theories
Quite literally didn't bother reading past there.
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>>285947599
I forgot *raughs*
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>>285947809
>refuses..
Concession accepted.
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>>285947754
>Hell? That was mentioned in the original manga.
It was also mentioned that evil beings don't keep their bodies and are eventually purged and reincarnated. This is why the filler scene with Freeza and the other villains in Hell watching Goku fight Kid Buu is considered filler and non-canon, because it contradicts the established rules for Hell. Even the non-canon movie Fusion Reborn acknowledges this, with King Enma granting Vegeta a temporary corporeal body so he can help Goku fight Janemba, and at the end of the movie he dissipates and turns back into an incorporeal spirit.

You know what other non-canon series contradicts this established lore about Hell? GT.
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>>285947599
>not ruling out a second attempt
Done.
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>>285947839
If you start a post with "Based on my headcanon", expect it to be discarded. I hope this helps your retarded ass in the future.
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>>285947778
but enough about bejita.
but enough about paragus.
but enough about dr gero.
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GT is as canon to dragon ball as the acolyte is to Star Wars. That is to say its CANON regardless of the anal pain it may cause.
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>filler
>"Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga"
So-called 'filler'? Canon.
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>>285947861
>w-well if you make assumptions based on nothing but a presupposition of headcanon...
This is known as reverse causation, or "Modus Tollens". Retarded GTranny.
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>>285947887
>had absolutely no way of rebutting >>285947844 so it's trying to move the goalposts
Done.
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jiren is as canon to dragon ball as the christmas special is to star wars. that is to say NOT AT ALL
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>>285947867
I was referring to my previous claims about GT being in the same timeline as the original Dragon Ball.
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>>285947420
>>285947289
Proof?
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>>285947778
There's nothing wrong with that. The child is supposed to surpass the father
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>>285947887
Even if I was nice and granted that filler can be considered canon as long as it doesn't contradict anything established in the manga, that wouldn't apply in that specific instance, since the filler in question does, in fact, contradict the manga.
You cannot win this.
>>285947913
Which it can't be, for reasons succinctly and quite eloquently stated here today.
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>>285947876
...in gay buttsex galaxy
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>manchild wars reference
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>>285947778
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>>285947861
>ignoring evidence
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Bulma San why are you naked?
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>>285947942
...unless you're JOBnks.
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>>285947987
>>[/dbs/] reference
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Yup, yup. GT is gay AIDS, and will never be canon. Have fun in the Cuck Shed, you banshee bitch.
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>>285948035
Tbf its unfair to expect anyone to surpass Bejita.
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>>285947887
The point still stands even without the filler example, you retarded motherfucker. It was quite clearly established in the original manga that people keeping their bodies after death is a rare exception, which is why it was such a big deal that Goku's body vanished after he died in the fight with Raditz and why Piccolo immediately realized he was getting to keep it into the afterlife. It's outright stated that this was done because he was a heroic figure that could use the opportunity to do good.

What possible fucking reason would there be to let Freeza and Cell keep their bodies? I've seen you GT morons perform insane mental gymnastics, but I don't think even one of you retards is schizophrenic enough to try and justify this shit.
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>trooncolyte
>admits that the failed giga turd is on par with another failed star turd
Kekaroo!
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Reminder that Gonorrhea Turd is non-canon garbage for faggots.
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>>285948191
goten is so lucky
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He jobbed just like Pan.
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Reminder that Grand Tour is canon kino for scholars.
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>>285948335
...in retard faggot dipshit land.
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>>285946621
Cute and canon.
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Now that the dust has settled, and GT has been undeniably confirmed to be a noncanon spin-off (its target demographic being retarded pedophiles who buy shitty toys), I can breathe a sigh of relief, knowing all the TRUE fans of DB have found something we can all agree on.
It nice knowing that no matter which character is your hero, or which one you hate, or which arc is your favorite, et cetera, every REAL fan of DB can agree that GT is a piece of shit flop with no legacy, and has been memoryholed by its own creators.
Unity, at last.
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>>285948203
Had that been Bejita he would’ve missed because he’s not tall enough 4-0
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>>285946883
Canon and hot.
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SSJ5
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>>285948461
Hear, hear.
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The jirenschizo and muttly are linking up need or keep it?
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>>285946365
Yeah Jiren lost all credibility when Goku blew up his asshole with his fist. Jiren really thought that Shart>>>Strength. Can you imagine dedicating yourself to Shart??? Goku's godly fist pushed his shart so deep it came back to his mouth and he choked on his own shart! Imagine all that hyper dense shart clogging your throat, filling your lungs, etc.
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>>285946661
She is unironically Toriyama’s greatest design.
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>>285948512
Why does he look like a dog?
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Was Tienrus actually a real person or just multiple people?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyrKwA7Sko
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>OOOOOOH BEJITA KUN COME HERE AND GIVE GRANNY FRIEZA A KISS
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YABBA
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DABBA
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>>285949215
Starting from the top left:
>soul
>soul
>soul
>soul
>soul
>shit
>shit
>omega shit
>soul
>shit
>worst character in the franchise
>shit
>shit
>shit
>shit
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>>285949215
Only Buu, Gomah, GT and Super manga villains are shit final villains.
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Do we?

>Jackie Chun: perfectly fine for a first tournament arc, we get to see Goku surpassing his master
>Tao: stylish, but he's not really the final boss, that'd be Black who's disappointing
>Piccolo Jr: the same guy AGAIN? Goku beat his ass in the previous arc. BORING.
>Vegeta: amazing final boss
>Frieza: 10/10 villain and should've been the final boss of DB as a whole
>Cell: poorly written character with trash goal
>Buu: same as Cell
>Gomah: good as a comic relief villain but it's impossible to take him seriously as a final antagonist. Just a dumb hulking beast.
>Beerus: fun, charismatic character but not a good villain
>Black: whiny BITCH
>Jiren: literally who? no personality, his backstory and goal aren't interesting either.
>Broly: just as boring as Jiren. Has no personality.
>Moro: great until he stops using his magic as his main way to fight and becomes yet another martial artist
>Gas: B O R I N G. Using weapons is different at least, but he's got the same issue as most villains, boring personality, boring backstory, boring goal.
>Cell Max: trash that's only remembered for the Shin Godzilla reference.
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>>285947867
Wow, you're no fun. It's fun to speculate yknow, and sometimes speculations turn out to be true.
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>>285949411
Speculation is fine. You treat your stupid headcanon as fact.
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>>285949429
Not the same anon retard. You gonna tell me your samefag headcanon is true now? Hypocrite.
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>>285949458
>n-not him!
You got embarrassed. Get the fuck out of my face.
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>>285949383
Granolah was OK. Gas was a neat demonstration of why wishing to be the strongest is shortsighted.

The arc would have been better though if Granolah was the final boss and lost without learning anything. Just our heroes tragically killing someone lost who didn't deserve it but couldn't be stopped.
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>>285949470
>muh schizo headcanon is reality
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GT will NEVER be canon. Sorry!
UGGHHH, I know, I know! It's just that it'll never be canon, is all.
KEKKKKKK!!!!!
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>>285949383
Officer Black/the Red Ribbon Base was really more of a victory layup, Goku was never in any danger and could have wasted the entire place at any time, it just never occurred to him until that moment
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>>285949680
Officer Black did too little, too late. He basically did the equivalent of shooting Hitler in the bunker instead of letting him kill himself. Had Black learned of Commander Red's wish being a selfish one earlier, he'd have couped him and taken command a long time ago.
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>>285946981
>the characters actually move and have nice colors
Why the fuck did they lose all the budget in GT?
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>>285949215
freeza > bejita > buu > piccolo > tao pai pai > chun > moro > beerus > jiren > goku black > cell > gas > my sharts > nuly > wallmart sharts in fine arts > poopoo > pan > dragon ball gt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daipa clown
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>>285949878
Tao is my favorite on style alone. He would have made a great recurring villain. If the Z fighters can reach Ginyu levels in only a few years, I'm sure Tao could find a way.

Like, imagine it was Tao killing Dende on Namek instead of Frieza. Tao initially teams up with the gang to help, but betrays them after seeing Vegeta get stronger.

Not that Tao would be loyal the Frieza. He'd gtfo that planet asap.

Basically, a perma-Vegeta who never goes soft.
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>>285950009
Also, imagine third form Frieza versus Tao, Piccolo, and Vegeta. Would have been kino.

I like to think Tao is secretly 1st form Frieza tier for the whole arc, and almost turns "good," but changes his mind when he sees Vegeta and Piccolo surpass him.
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Whose meat is this?
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/em-mCjMo_qo
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>>285950152
Lemo.
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BOOM
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Best arc: Saiyan
Best Goku: Saiyan and Namek Goku
Best character: Saiyan and Namek Bejita
Best villain: Cell
Best ending: 23rd Tenkaichi
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I really need to rewatch the original anime, I don't remember shots like this at all
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>>285950554
How did Toei go from that to THIS?
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>>285950634
Why did they turn in to different ages?
>Goten and Trunks become babies
>Everybody else becomes kids
>even Roshi who is much older
Why did characters that weren't involved in the Majin Buu battle de-age?
>roshi becomes a kid
What fight did he put up against Buu?
I Chi-chi slapped Buu so I can count that, but what did Bulma do?
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>>285950634
Why is Dende a baby? He's like the same age as Gohan.
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>Krillin is turned into a kid
>he becomes bald
>Yamcha becomes a kid
>his hair grows longer
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>>285950634
Thank God that embarrassing shit is over. Being a DB fan while Daipa aired was an absolutely horrible and painful experience.
One of the darkest hours in the franchise's history.
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>>285950790
? Where is that stated? Piccolo grows to a full adult in 3 years, Dende could be a week old in the namek saga for all we know.
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>the one character everyone knows and remembers how he looked like as a kid doesn't show up in the series at all

Genuinely what the fuck were they thinking? Was Toriyama's design for him so shitty they just dropped Gohan off the show because it was easier than telling TARDiyama to fuck off?
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>>285950922
Gohan lost his aura when he grew up. Kid and Teen Gohan is his only good rendition before becoming a useless jobber
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>>285950874
I got my nephew in to DBZ and even he thought Daima was "gay" and didn't want to watch it. Daima seems like it was made purely for a Japanese toddler audience.
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>>285950922
Goku doesn't consider Gohan his friend because he's a nerd so he never became a child
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>>285950911
>Piccolo grows to a full adult in 3 years
At least 10 years had passed since the Namek arc by the time Daipa happens. That would make Dende an adult.
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>>285950937
Mystic Gohan is the DEFINITION of aura, you retard
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>the same collage as Goku
>collage
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>>285950964
>Mystic Gohan
>shows up, jobs, gets immediately overshadowed by the superior Vegito

Mystic Gohan's biggest contribution was giving Super Buu a power up
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>>285950817
In front of his wife no less
>hey yall see that shit? Bejita losing to a woman? I saw it. I bet they think I didn’t, but I did. Kek!
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>>285950874
Bullshit. The dark period has been going on for over 10 years as DBS gets slapped down by its betters.
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>>285950790
>>285950911
>>285950955
There's 2 types of Namekians so they make grow/ mature differently. Piccolo is the warrior type, Dende is not.
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>>285951033
Bacterium. The rings of Saturn are a chainsaw. If there were eight billion saiyans, most would be jobbers.
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>>285950554
MY FUCKING ARRRRRMMMMMMSSSSSSSS
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>>285950874
I'd say its definitely the darkest point of the franchise by FAR, the only thing worse than the series ending like it did in the 90s or inexisting outside of games in the 2000s would be it becoming some kind of zombie for toddlers were everyone looks like a chew toy and acts like a retard fighting cocomelon characters. Which was a VERY realistic outcome with the sheer amount of shilling Daima was getting and it genuinely looking like the culmination of all of the toddlerfication Iyoku was putting upon the franchise. Thank GOD everyone who though that was wrong and we are getting the manga adapted instead.
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>There's 2 types of Namekians so they [shit I made the fuck up]
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>>285951069
Retard analysis. The only reason you're getting the manga now is because it's one of the last things with Toriyama's name on it. Dragon ball is giga dead.
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>>285951100
Good. I'd rather have that than anything close to Daima ever again.
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>>285951130
Time for the AI remake of dragon ball through Z.
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The one and only, PRINCE of ALL
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>>285951130
>>285951069
Daipa flopped. Iyoku and pedoei are trying to recoup their losses by adapting the Toyotaro's manga. A lot of unused cut content, soundtracks, unsold figures/DLC and planned seasons for daipa were thrown into the waste bin.
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>>285951182
..oh, JOBjita is also there...
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>>285951189
impossible lie because toei doesn't put that much work into dragon ball anymore since they have one piece. we get 20-40 new episodes every 5 years, that's our new normal. not really any different from what an average seasonal gets.
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>..oh, JOBjita is also there...
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>>285951266
>when you're the strongest in the universe but Bejita-sama STILL won't kiss your wife
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>>285951069
>Bejita vs Gokubros.webm
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>>285946531
Lol
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POV: you're in front of the Prince kneeling like a good pup
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This?CANON!
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>>285951339
Every single one of those Villains beat Bejita to near death and Goku had to save the day.
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>>285951189
>bandai is releasing ssj4 daima and nothing else for a dead fighting game in fucking may

Who the fuck is buying this shit? Are they insane?
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>>285951402
Why can't Bandai just adapt the manga content for Dragon Ball video toys? They literally adapted the rest of the manga war arc of Naruto Shipudden on the Naruto Ninja Storm 4 game. The games were literally ahead of the poopy filler anime during that point lmao.
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>>285951444
Goku could dodge every single one of those punches btw but he didn't want to make Cell feel bad.
Truly a noble soul.
No wonder he is our hero.
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>>285950874
Indeed, I had to get drunk before watching every episode. It was so bad. All that animation budget, wasted.
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>>285951534
It should've just been a movie.
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>>285951360
Frieza lost to trunks Cell lost to gohan buu lost to everyone’s energy. Ka? BOOOOOM
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GT? Canon.
In anime, canon refers to material, storylines, and character developments that are considered official, authentic, and part of the main, original storyline established by the creator.
Toriyama was heavily involved in the creation of GT. GT is part of Toriyama's vision.
>Umm Super made GT noncanon!!
Wrong. Super is merely GT's prequel.
>THERE'S INCONSISTENCIES YOU GTARD!!!!!!!
Meds. And that's because Super isn't finished yet. It doesn't even match up with EoZ. You don't think EoZ is not canon, do you? Future Super arcs will pave the way to GT. You are just mad Super's characters are weaker than GT's.
Do you deny the iconic status of SS4? The impact GT had on Dragon Ball? You would toss all this to the realm of noncanon material? Very arrogant.
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>>285951617
Pan is disgusting. Just shitting wherever she pleases. Shameful.
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>>285951770
She’s a 1/4 monkey you racist
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I LOVE THE DUB! AND I LOVE JESUS! HELL YEAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUXfnYb2TvI
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Is canon even binary? A simple yes or no? Are there not nuances to canon? Can one product be more canon than other? Both Super and GT are canon but, well, when we factor in EoZ, seems like GT is more canon than Super to me.
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I've never had sex.
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>>285952017
Pointy ears are not sexy.
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>>285952154
Sasuke Uchiha…
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>>285952053
It’s up to personal interpretation really. But in these halls GT is canon as FUARK.
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>>285951617
Pan makes the nastiest shits.
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>>285952053
The eight categories of canon are noncanon (Z Filler), narratively possible canon(Bojack), narratively probable canon(Super filler), formerly noncanon canon (Broly), yin canon (Super manga), Yang canon (Super Beerus), official fanfiction (Daima), and true ideal canon (Sensei’s notes)
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>>285952017
Pointy ears are sexy.
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>>285952017
>>285952535
>blue women
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Ox Empress
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>>285952281
Nope, never
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>>285951602
Kys, faggot
>>285951617
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>>285951483
naruto is a newer franchise with different contract provisions likely.
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Pan is a heroine.
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>>285953497
>fingers full of shit
KEKKYPOO!
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>>285947748
ai winny, you lose
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>>285950959
my hero Goku wouldn't be deceived by Nino. he would go for the best girl Miku
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>>285953497
She’ll make some healthy babies with that butt!
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Reminder that Goku abandoned his family to raise some orphan as his mentee
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I'm ovulating.
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>>285955108
That looks like shit
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Team lolcow Star
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>>285955161
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>>285955161
but how can you have a lolcow that without any lols?
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SHIT
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>>285955172
The Christmas Tree of Might!
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>>285947441
krillin tanked that btw
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>>285951617
Funny!
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>>285955234
OH MY GOD YOU POSTED IT AGAIN!
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>>285954775
Nuly......
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>>285955494
Bro?
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>Bejita RAPED Tardku so hard he started using "ore" out of cope
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>>285955891
I wish I had a son to share Dragon Ball with.
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>>285955494
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>>285956344
Slutyly.....
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>>285946892
GT is utter garbage
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>>285956480
Great character design
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GT stands for gutter tripe
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>>285953150
Why?
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>>285956395
It's not.
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GT stand for Grand sTory actually
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I just took a huge stinky horizontal shit that won't flush. I've decided to name it Goku.
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>>285956706
>won't flush
so you admit defeat?
goku won
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>>285956706
>Bejita is such a big fan of GODku that he even names his turds after his unbreakable role model
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>>285956681
>it stands for the original Dragon Ball's Grand Story
I absolutely agree with you. DBGT is the Grand Final of the original Dragon Ball.
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Daima > Super > GT
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>>285956780
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GT > Daima > Super
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Super > GT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daima
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>>285955234
Thank you for posting this, scholar. It is VERY funny.
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Z > Daima > DB > Super > GT
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>>285957074
Super > OG DB
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>>285951182
>Vegeta: "All of the Villains on this throne kicked my ass. I never defeated any of them."
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>>285957211
Kek, he said this.
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I hope the remake changes most of the OST from the Beerus arc. Some of them sounded absolutely terrible and retarded like when Goten and Trunks fuse to fight Beerus.
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ENOUGH with the infidelity posting. You animals make me sick.
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>>285957481
There's literally nothing wrong with infinitelinity
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>>285957439
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The Z wives are loyal and chaste. There is no cheating or cuckold fetishes.
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>>285956852
>hating everything is le intellikent
That’s why I fucked your bitch, you fat mother fuckeeer
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Will Dragon Ball Super Kai meet our expectations, /db/?
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>>285957630
I'm not watching a single second of that fucking shit. I don't know why they feel the need to remake Battle of Gods for a second time.
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>>285957675
I will watch it because is not only an animation remake, they said Beerus and everyone will be more serious.
It will be a nice way to see if they are still trying their toddlerdification garbage like they did with daipa or not.
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>>285957608
Meanwhile, Pan 1-shotting an opponent Goku said to be stronger than Buuhan
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>>285957750
>Beerus and everyone will be more serious
That means he'll only cum in his pants for ice cream once per episode instead of three.
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I thought it was funny when Bejita started twerking for Beerus when he was doing his bingo cuck dance.
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>>285947867
I was correct about GT not belonging to the same universe as the movies.

This pic proves it >>285946770
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>>285957630
Only watching if there’s Yuya Takahashi footage
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>>285957752
FACT.
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>>285947844
>filler
>ignoring the original author's words
>"Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga"
It doesn't matter how hell appears in the anime, it's not all going to look exactly the same. The original stories are the same canon as the original Dragon Ball story.

See this >>285946770
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>>285947876
See this >>285946770
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>>285947946
>You cannot win this.
>"Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga"
This came from the original author of the original Dragon Ball, so I think I can win this and there is absolutely no contradictions in any of the 'original stories'.
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>>285958012
The most disgusting character in the series. Oh, Dolltaki is there too.
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>>285946671
whose headcanon is this?
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>>285948118
You do realise that King Yemma does not have to adhere to his own rules, right? Remember that time he did Goku a favour? I'm pretty sure King Yemma is more than capable of making exceptions.
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>>285957752
This.
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>>285958124
Team Funny Star fans who think their cartoon is the official Dragon Ball canon.
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>>285946770
Funny how Tori’s final fuck you to the franchise before dying was making SSJ4 canon.
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>>285951617
KWANDF (kek what a noncanon dead flop)!
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>>285958245
>canon.
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>>285957999
Cope
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The Panbro is winning.
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>The Panbro is winning.
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>>285957752
>pic unrelated
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>>285946554
Why did Dr. Gero hate humanity so much?
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Pan here. I'm shit.
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>>285958373
incel chud
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>1-shotting
>Rildo immediately gets up and knocks out Pan
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>>285958373
His son died and the only way to bring him back was being hoarded by the people who killed him.
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>>285958386
Based.
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BROS IS DRAGON BALL DIAPER BABIES NOT CANON??? IS IT OVER?
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>>285958373
The kids wouldn't stop playing on his adamm lwn.
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>>285958416
Good riddance.
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>>285958416
>not a single mention of roshi
Rape whoever made this movie.
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>>285958508
It was a TV Special, tourist.
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Strongest of the cast: check
Tallest saiyan: check
Biggest cock: check
Fucks Videl's tight pussy every night: check
His wife is a cuckquean who will let him plap Erasa on the side: check
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>>285958526
>Gohan
>Saiyan
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>>285958526
That's why he's my hero.
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>>285958416
>Pan after training in Capsule Corp’s gravity room
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>>285958526
He also never shows in that daipa flop.
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>>285958526
>Strongest of the cast
Vegeta.
>Tallest saiyan
Broly.
>Biggest cock
Vegeta.
>Fucks Videl's tight pussy every night
Satan.
>His wife is a cuckquean who will let him plap Erasa on the side
Goku.
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>>285958526
3 out of 5 of those are another character.
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Gohan, Tenshinhan, and Android 17 TANKED the Daipa wish.
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>>285958583
>All lies
Done.
Also, Pan won.
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>>285958611
You're a mentally ill cuckold. Go put on a dress, faggot.
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>>285952760
yes?
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>>285958645
Granolah hate fucked her btw.
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Gonorrhea Turd characters? Small building level thus noncanon.
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>>285958619
>>All lies
Nope
>Also, Pan won.
Never
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>You're a mentally ill cuckold. Go put on a dress, faggot
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Bunny Goddess of Destruction
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P*n lost, btw.
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>>285958416
>Pan after getting hit by a can
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>Pan won.
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>>285958748
Unfunny meme.
Pan isn't that weak.
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Is Kai pussy any good?
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>>285958711
>not even denying it
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Demon women sexo
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>>285958416
>Pan after getting slapped by Videl
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>>285958864
>chinese fanfiction
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>>285958864
Slop for toddlers.
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>>285958416
>Pan after getting assaulted by hundreds of giant bees
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>>285958910
...but enough about the original DB manga by Akira Toriyama.
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>>285958910
Goku and Bejita? Surpassed by Bloomers.
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Bejita? My bitch.
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>>285958416
>Pan after getting hit by a wet tissue paper
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>>285958949
Stfu, faggot
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>>285958864
>dragon ball super if it was written by gege
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>>285958864
>Dragon Ball if it wasn't made by a misogynist
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>>285946429
No gt was fun it had a lot of good things gonna for it. Your just pissed it wasn't mindless fighting.
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>>285958973
>Bloomers.
>>285950975
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>>285959068
>written by gaygay
Bulma isn’t ugly or muscular, and lacks scars all over her body.
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>>285959081
Cope
>>285959110
>>285958778
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>>285958416
>Pan after getting assaulted by Dolltaki
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>>285959110
>16 hours ago
>Your just
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>>285959110
>a lot of good things gonna for it
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>>285959131
Cope about what GT was more like og dragon ball then z and super.
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>>285959181
>then
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>>285959179
Post IESLB (5).
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>>285959234
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"GT"? More like "Noncanon Keky-Deady-Floppy Slopshit." KEK!
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>>285959110
>mindless fighting
Nobody besides secondaries believe this.
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>GAAAH.... *gasp* *gasp*
>P-papa! Help me!
>BOOM goes the fist right into her stomach, forcing up half a pint of blood
>P-papa! I'm d-dying! I can't fight...
>Delirious and furious flurry of punches to her face causes her vision to blur and off color as her mind begins to shut down and blood overflows from her disfigured face
>Papa... I'm so scared.... I don't want to die...
>Gohan continues his angry assault, laughing as his daughter begins to fade away
>Bejita is proud of his son, finally embracing his Saiyan spirit of torturing and killing the worthless
>Goku says, "Gohan, that's enough! It's my turn now!"
>Losing consciousness, Pan is fed 1/4 of a senzu bean, just enough to recover her to some form of life but nowhere near enough to regather her strength or receive a power boost
>Goku shatters her legs, and she falls
>"Heeheehee, this is exciting!" He says as he grabs her by her neck and prepares to make her choke on her blood
>Pan looks into her grandpa's grinning face and all around. Everyone-- Gohan, Videl, Torankusu, Goten, Chichi, Bloomers, Ox King, Tien Shinhan, Yamucha, Puar, Kuririn, Turtle, Roshi, 17, 18, Marron, Bulla, Dr. Briefs, Broly, Burori, Frieza, Oolong, Eighter, Lunch, Hatchiyack, Caulifla, Kale, Kyabe, Jiren, Geran, Bacterian, Ran Fan, Ninja Murasaki, Spopovich, Kaio-sama, Kaioshin, Grand Kaio, Kibito, El Grande Padre, Zeno, even the great Dr. Wheelo had come to watch, mock, and torture her
>And so the beatings continued, day in and day out, without rest and with plenty of senzu beans to prevent Pan from dying

Total Pan Death
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>>285953497
Built for?
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>>285959654
K, B, C!!!
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>>285954775
I know ChiChi
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>>285959654
Most sane Bejitabro
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Friendly reminder that the Super remake will replace the original anime as canon, and it will remove THAT scene from the Goku Black arc.
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>>285959110
No lies detected.
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The next Dragon Ball anime should include weapons and cards so they can sell more merch like Ultraman and Kamen Rider.
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>>285958416
>Pan after living a long and fulfilling life
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>>285959851
Every true DB fan wants to own Goku's Pan-Torturing Device(TM).
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>>285958365
Those aren't my feet.
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>>285959913
KEKKKK!!!
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>>285958526
Jiren.
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>>285958416
>Pan after Mr. Elephant paid her a visit
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Is it even possible to make Gas cool when they inevitably get to the Granolah arc? I feel like if they emphasize his weapon abilities more there could be something there. Shame about that character design. At least the zombie form is kind of cool
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>>285960361
He needs a backstory. Maybe show him feeling inferior to Granolah because Elec favored him or something. I don't think he will ever be considered "cool", he's clearly supposed to be a tragic character.
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>Bardock wishes for his SONS to prosper
>Goku clearly prospers in many ways, becoming one of the lasts surviving Saiyans, for example
>Goku is explicitly confirmed to be Bardock's son
>Granolah also prospers (survives dangerous situations and becomes extremely powerful)
>Granolah's mother was definitely piped by Bardock
>Raditz jobs and dies as a weakling (doesn't prosper)
>Raditz looks nothing like Bardock, and has more in common with Bejita
Really makes you think.
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>>285958790
The best.
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>>285960470
That’s the main problem with Gas. He’s just a useful idiot to Elec because he’s strong. He doesn’t realize he’s a pawn until he’s already halfway dead.
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>>285960552
It's cope but Granolah's story would have genuinely been more interesting if he was Goku's half brother by blood. But Tori/Toyo would never do anything to challenge the new Good Boy Bardock shtick.
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>>285960552
>>285960603
Bardock should have raped Granolah's mom up the arse you reckno?
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>>285960603
It's one of the rare headcanons I actually delude myself into believing. We never see Granolah's father, and the "prosper" wish was a really odd thing to throw in, especially since Bardock says "sons" (plural) and not just Goku.
Toyo clearly just forgot about Raditz, which is funny, because that's a very Toriyama thing to do.
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Who the fuck is Granolah?
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>>285960687
Strongest in the Universe besides Frieza Kuro
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>>285960687
A character who leaked a while ago. He will be appearing in the canon anime remake.
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>>285960700
>>285960708
So he's a fanfic OC that isn't canon?
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>>285960687
The worst character in all of fiction. He's up there with Jiren and Goku Black in terms of fanspiction dogshit.
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>>285960734
He was shown in a leaked storyboard for the new anime remake. He will become canon when that storyboard gets animated in July 2029.
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>>285960734
Yes.
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>>285960735
T-that speed!
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>>285960759
Nah. Toriyama is dust so nothing that comes out of Toei is canon.
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>>285960573
Chronoa got BIG.
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>>285960735
>He's up there with Jiren and Goku Black in terms of fanspiction dogshit.
Kek, true. Goku Black was obscenely bad.
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>>285960794
Toriyama mentioned "Granolah" on a grocery list he made shortly before he died, so it is definitely canon.
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For fucks sake, he's from the manga directly after Moro arc you retarded tourist. How long until these "people" forget DB exists and fuck off back to /v/ or whatever?
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Remember that one poster who made a fanfic of West Supreme Kai being Goku Black or some shit? My memory of this is vague, because it was, what, 10 years ago?
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>>285960849
I think it was west supreme kai being xicor's mom, which was basically traced for the goku black arc.
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No one cares about the DB Super manga, you queer. That's like caring about the Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission manga. It's fanfiction pig feed for low IQ retards.
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>>285960603
It would be more interesting, but practically impossible to implement in the story we were given.
>>285960644
Goku did mention Raditz while talking to Gas about what it’s like to have a rotten brother that is just taking advantage of you.
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I only care about victory mission because my wife shows up in it. But you're right, it is a pretty lame manga. The others were much better.
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>>285960872
No, I know she was Xicor's mom in AF, but somebody was posting pics of Goku Black and Zamasu with some fanfic version of the Black arc, where Goku Black was actually her, and she teamed up with Zamasu or some shit. I remember seeing edited pics of Goku Black with her earring, instead of Zamasu's.
I think the poster was probably inspired by AF, but this was some rewrite of the Black arc for sure. I don't know how far along he got with it, though.
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>>285958416
>Pan after training with Yamcha
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>>285960911
Ok, I see what you're talking about. Yeah that did happen.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155608559/#155617274
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>>285960890
I mean all they had to do was have her survive the initial invasion and die off later on after Granolah was born but it's all dust in the wind now, we got what we got
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>>285960984
>9 years ago
Holy fuck. Thank you for finding this.
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>>285960875
Nope, Toeicuck
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I have an encyclopedic knowledge of Dragon Ball AF.
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>>285960875
You lost, Iyokuck.
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>>285961031
>>285961011
I accept your submission.
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>>285960984
lmao i remember this
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I have an encyclopedic knowledge of Dragon Ball GT.
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>>285961069
Then you should know how many times Baby fucked Bulma while Bejita watched from behind his own eyes.
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>>285961092
This didn't happen. Baby is a child.
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Realistically, is there any chance at this point that we will get a canon SS5 or Xicor?
I think Daipa may have paved the way for SS5 if it didn't end up being a dead flop, and Goku Black is probably the closest thing we'll ever have to a canon Xicor.
I also thought MUI CC Goku and SFPS4LB Xeno Goku were going to fuse into SS5, but they just did some "ki fusion" bullshit instead.
I don't think we'll have another opportunity like those for a long time, if at all.
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TablosAF should take over as lead creative director.
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>>285961092
>headcanon
>vegeta's own penis fucking his wife makes him a cuck
Just stop with these embarassing copes already Gokubro.
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>>285961126
"SS5" is possible in the form of SS4+UI. Xicor is a literal never ever ever fanfic
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>>285961092
…with Bejitas own penis btw that I like to imagine while I rub my nipples.
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>>285961157
>vegeta's own penis
>>285961165
>Bejitas own penis
Bruh
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>>285961174
Why would someone draw this?
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>>285960890
Is it really? We never actually see Bardock and Muezli talking with each other. The moment they meet she shoots him (on the arm, instead of anywhere more fatal), then he talks something about her and Granolah being the last two survivors, then it cuts away to them far away meeting Monaito. It almost looks like something done intentionally so the reveal happened in this gap when the arc got adapted. Realistically nothing would change in the arc if Granolah really was Bardock's son, as long as neither Goku nor Granolah knew about it.
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>>285961190
BARDOCK A GOOD BOY HE DINDU NUFFIN
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>>285961186
Why is Kuririn peering through the window?
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>>285961159
>"SS5" is possible in the form of SS4+UI.
But will we ever get SS4 in the same timeline as UI? I don't see this happening, now that Daipa is basically being memoryholed as a failed endeavor.
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>>285961226
Why are the dragon balls scattered about on the floor?
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>>285960735
All of them are better than the daipa clown btw
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>>285961238
I know /dbs/ likes to scream and cope about Daipa but I'm certain Iyoku will never let it fade into GT 2.0 territory. It is 100% canon incoming seethe and cope
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>>285961253
Yes but that's because nobody in Daima even classifies as a character. They're caricatures.
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>>285961186
People have always mocked how DB characters powering up looks like they're trying to push out a shit.
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>>285961296
I guess we'll see. So, you're one of the people who believe SS4 will show up in the new Beerus movie? I just don't see it happening, because it'd mean there's yet another version of DBS, since it wouldn't be following the manga at that point.
It would be interesting to see SS4 be explored in Super, because a divine monkey form kind of ties it back to the Sun Wukong stuff (I think?), though.
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Akio Iyoku. Fuck you.
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Bulma body count status?
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>>285961477
It's over 9000.
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>>285961357
I don't think it will explicitly show up because animation isn't cheap, but I am confident we will get a few throwaway lines referencing it. One of the biggest purposes of the remake is to unify DB content because right now it's all over the place and the Manga and anime might as well be different timelines they deviate so much from each other at times
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>>285961477
https://vocaroo.com/6Etfjw238A
Everyone.
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Z is the Prime Universe. Super and Daipa are the Kelvin Universe.
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>>285961296
Iyoku....
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>>285961602
...saved Dragon Ball from Toei and Shueisha locking it in the cuck shed so they could try to force other IP's they have more control over
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toddler bejita fighting giant space hamsters
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>SS1 has spiky, golden hair, and blue eyes
>SS2 has spikier golden hair, because it's SS1, but pushed further
>SS3 has even spikier and longer golden hair, because it's SS1 pushed much further than SS2, and the user loses their eyebrows for some reason
>Ultra Bejita 1 has spikier hair than SS2, but not as long as SS3, because it's SS2 pushed further, but not pushed as far as SS3, and the user loses their eyebrows like SS3
Okay... This makes sense.
>SS4 has a completely different hairstyle, shorter than both SS3 and Ultra Bejita 1, and the hair is red, the user grows red fur, a tail, their eyes are red, and they get eyeliner, and weird arm proportions
Okay... This could make sense, since SS4 was some weird demon power-up, and not a normal Saiyan transformation, right?
>Goku mentions he already had SS4 up his sleeve, or something, before he was amped by Neva's magic or whatever
It just doesn't make any sense. What the fuck is Daima4 supposed to be?
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>>285961546
>>285961575
>headcanon
>RTH
Pathetic. Just end your sad life already.
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>>285961684
>What the fuck is Daima4 supposed to be?
A reason to make new toys.
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Ultra Bejita 1 is just SS3 retard-kun. It's a joke.
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You now remember “Toyotaro’s public execution”.
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SSJ
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>>285961718
It could have made sense if not for the line about Goku already knowing it existed before he was amped by magic.
It should've been some weird magic-only form, kind of like SSG being different from normal SS forms since it's a divine ritual form.
>>285961726
My headcanon for it having shorter hair is that it's a midway between SS2 and SS3, kind of like how Super Vegeta is buff, but not as buff as Ultra Trunks, since Trunks took it too far.
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Cell Max
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>>285961768
>>285961684
ssj4 is not "demon magic" i don't know why you're still talking about this pre-reveal rumor. It's just super saiyan 4. That's it.
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>>285961839
I know. That's my point. It doesn't make sense as a natural evolution of SS3.
It would've made more sense if it WAS "demon magic."
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>>285961860
And why doesn't it make sense? Because you don't like it? SS3 gives saiyans the more rigid monkey brow ridge, it even had the tail regrow in concept art. So why wouldn't 4 include more Oozaru characteristics?
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>>285961745
The time for Toyotaro’s public execution... got changed.
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>>285961768
Its literal filler nonsense that will never be mentioned again. Stop caring about it.
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>>285961896
Concept art isn't canon.
SS4 is wildly different than the previous forms, visually.
Think about it this way; SS1 is the basic form of SS. The grades after the basic version are like "overclocked" versions of SS1, and SS2 is a sort of mastered "next level" of SS1, overclocked like the previous grades (Super Vegeta, for example), but without the downsides, and a better power boost.
SS3 is a heavily overclocked version of SS2, and has a much higher energy drain because of that. Visually, it makes sense, because, following the logic of SS2 (which has spikier hair than SS1), SS3 gets even spikier, longer hair, which is a clear visual indication that it's such a heavily overclocked version of SS.
SS4 has nothing in common with the previous forms. Does it have ki drain like SS3? Why does it suddenly gain all of these weird visual traits (red fur, red eyes, etc), while losing others (like the lack of eyebrows)?
Just think about it from a design standpoint.
>>285961964
This is the answer.
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>>285961994
This is a literal frame from the SS3 transformation in Z btw. And 4 turning red makes even more sense now that we know SSG exists. Also
>>285961768
>kind of like SSG being different from normal SS forms since it's a divine ritual form.
Vegeta achieves it without the ritual. The ritual is just a literal cheatcode shortcut. SSG is natural saiyan progression
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The undefeated strongest.
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>even Daimabros agree that it’s all filler
Grim.
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>>285962032
So you're tying SS4 to SSG? Sure, it makes more sense as a branching transformation like SSG, but then why call it "SS4"?
Even if we give an in-universe explanation like "Goku just wanted to call it that because it's better than SS3," it doesn't make sense from a meta perspective, other than "it looks like SS4 from GT."
I don't think Daipa is compatible with Super (unless they make some serious retcons in the remake), so I'm talking about Daima4 in a vacuum, without the SSG lore.
Even if we say it makes sense that Goku would gain more Oozaru-esque traits after SS3, SS4 just seems like a huge visual jump to make from SS3, doesn't it?
Also, what traits does it have? Does it have ki drain like SS3? Because, if it doesn't, then it must not be part of the normal SS "line," you know?
>Vegeta achieves it without the ritual. The ritual is just a literal cheatcode shortcut.
This is true, and I forgot about that. Still, I'd assume he was somehow given god ki by some other method, though it's off-panel, so that's just my headcanon again.
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Pan won this thread
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>>285962143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7oVyLbRWK4
It makes perfect sense either way, I don't know why you're getting your panties in a twist over a simple color change.
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>>285962179
>>285962179
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>>285961684
>What the fuck is Daima4 supposed to be?
The same as Super haircolors: new forms to sell toys.
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>>285962175
Why does his hair get shorter? I'm just saying it's not visually consistent with the main SS "line." It makes more sense if it's a branching transformation, like SSG, which follows a different path.
SS1-SS3 follows a very clear visual progression, and its traits are indicative of how those transformations work.
SS4's look doesn't really tell us anything about how it works.
>>285962207
This.
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>>285962229
They decided to reel the design in and include more ape characteristics than 3, that's all there is to it. You sound like one of those retards that would have unironically preferred this abomination. There was only so far they could have taken the "bigger hair" shit
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>>285962277
>They decided to reel the design in and include more ape characteristics than 3, that's all there is to it.
I agree. It makes sense from a meta perspective, but my point is it doesn't follow the in-universe trends of SS.
>You sound like one of those retards that would have unironically preferred this abomination.
Not at all. Daima4 would've been fine with me, if there was some explanation for it looking different. My issue is that it's somehow a natural progression of SS3, with zero lore.
Even GT's SS4 is fine with me, because it's very explicit about not being part of the normal SS "line."
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>>285962059
Goku beat Bejita in Daima



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