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Happy Birthday, Setsuna!
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>>286061287
Happy birthday! Best girl! I love the other girls lots too of course! Threesome route 4eva
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>didn't get walked home gently
>didn't walk home next morning with unsteady feet
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>>286061287
Happy birthday.
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>>286061287
New anime when
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>>286062491
they adapted coda just for me but I'm the only one who can watch it
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why didn't she do it
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read the fucking VN
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>>286062491
Hopefully when they release a PC version with the console-exclusive CGs and motion sprites. Shoulda been in Extended Edition desu.

>>286062625
You better leave it all in one piece for future generations.
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>>286062819
don't do this
you'll become a kazusafag permanently
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It's a day late, but Happy Birthday Setsuna!
Having finally gotten a chance to go to the WA2 Newtype Collab Cafe this year, it really opened my eyes to a lot of details they did in preparing the food referencing the original work. Not to mention having the luck to witness probably the best Chiaki cosplay from a customer when I went there, the visit was more than worth it.

Also excuse my shitty camera.
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>>286063413
Noice. I'm never quite sure whether to make birthday threads based on Japan time, i.e. a day ahead of local time.
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>>286063413
>the best Chiaki cosplay from a customer
Nice. I've only witnessed Setsuna cosplay by a waitress there.
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>>286062987
W A L K E D H O M E F U N N Y
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Best written character in the VN
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>>286066231
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Damn these threads used to be pretty active
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>>286068201
I know, right? I'm keeping the candle lit so long as the site still lives, though.
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>>286069331
Based
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>>286069385
Anime onlies really don't know Setsuna's tryue power level
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>>286068201
I'm kinda burnt out of discussing WA2. Especially since every discussion recently went either full schizo or full retard.
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>>286071186
I'm a Kasusafag but I've never really cared for the blame game or waifuwars, I know you didn't bring those up but it's usually how I've seen the threads go
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>>286071643
I'm with you on that.
But even blame game used to evolve into good discussions in Valentine's threads. However, recently it's not been the case.
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>>286061287
HBD!
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>>286061287
This is the same guys who did Utawarerumono, right? Is it as good?
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>>286062819
where?
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>>286074839
It's also from Leaf/Aquaplus but written by a different author.
And it's the company's magnum opus, even though I love Uta trilogy too.
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>>286074839
Is that CG from Comic Party?
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>>286061287
Truly the perfect woman!
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>>286074948
TL patch:
https://todokanaitl.github.io/patch/

Or this should be the patched game:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3837486

The comments mention you might need to run in a compatibility mode on Win11. On 10 it should be fine, last I tried.
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I want to mate with Setsuna!
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>>286075007
>And it's the company's magnum opus
I hardly ever see it brought up, like in the VN general, it's certainly my favourite but I always wondered how popular it really is. I guess we're in a post S;G era now
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>>286061287
Happy Birthday BEST DOG
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>>286076585
Or you could just ditch M$ crapware and run it in nobara or steamos. Seriously, there's a reason they're panicing about gabecube.
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>>286069331
why does she look so much like Rina here lol
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WA2 is held in higher regard than Utaware? I find that very hard to believe.
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Week long sex scene with Setsuna in CC was fucking painful to sit through
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>>286076585
nice ty
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>>286077537
I haven't visited /vn/ in at least a year, probably. Hung around for a few years after Coda's TL to encourage other readers. These days it feels like I never have enough time to keep up with anything, but if it gets a new release of some sort, I'll be there for sure. (Sometimes I worry it could get a Steam announcement out of the blue and I might not even notice for months... a man can dream, right?)

>>286078665
Its ratings are in the top three across three countries last I checked, although there's bound to be a self-selection factor where people with no interest in pure romantic drama won't pick it up in the first place. It's at the top in that category for sure though.
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>>286061287
Setsuna and Kazusa are ___________.
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>>286079999
Either best friends or worst enemies
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>>286079999
cute
CUTE
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>>286077537
>I guess we're in a post S;G era now
Thank God for that. We've had more than enough wanking of that VN to last a lifetime.
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>>286080729
I thought it was okay but I got tired of Okabe's lab room
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Kind of a quiet thread this year, see you in the Kazusa one maybe
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>>286068201
Leaving your girl alone on her birthday which is also Valentine's Day is scum of the earth tier.
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>>286080729
SG gets a lot of undeserved hype, mostly because time travel is an easy crowd pleaser. Personally I think there are a lot of better VNs out there.
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>>286078665
for Leaf I prefer ToHeart2 and Teninai to Utaware anyways
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>>286081049
Why is that? Setsuna is the best!
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>>286079548
Rare LA MADRE sighting
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>>286062987
I read it and it had a completely opposite effect. Kazusa mogged the fuck out of Setsuna if you only consume IC. From CC onwards (specifically Chiaki's route) I'm on Setsuna's side all the way
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>>286086129
I'm always conflicted at the thought of a hypothetical CC adaptation because the common route is so fucking good, but Setsuna's route is so fucking bad yet unavoidable. If I were a techbro baron, I would have the other girls' routes adapted first to give Setsuna her best scenes too, and the CC anime would take like a year to air.
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>>286086129
I agree that if you only watch the anime, you're less likely to become a Setsunafag than if you read the VN.
I still stayed a Kazusafag, but I grew to appreciate Setsuna a lot more than I used to after the TV.
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This thread this year just shows that Setsunafags really are a loud minority in this board. Having the initial thread die once near instantly, and then you have a slowly dying one. Then again, I don't expect much from those people who keep posting that one image to celebrate her birthday though lol.

On a WA2 related note, I really hope Aquaplus finds a way to not resort to EPLUS for events. I fear that the coming concert might be the last WA2 related one given how everybody in the cast is getting old. I suppose I'll just have to make do with doing the yearly pilgrimage this year.
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>>286088122
>I fear that the coming concert might be the last WA2 related one given how everybody in the cast is getting old.
They still did Uta 20th anniversary concert, so I believe WA2 could have one too, but I see where you're coming from.
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>>286086129
Setsuna is a sunk cost fallacy
He just loves Kazusa more, consider how close they got immediately despite being away from each other for so long
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>>286089407
Kazusa is his natural soulmate but Setsuna works too. He also stated that he fell in love with Setsuna at first sight during CC common. He also went extremely retarded in the Idol Who Forgot How to Sing, despite that being the period where he was actively ghosting her
In Setsuna Mini After Story, following the route where Kazusa explicitly stayed in Japan permanently and where he could constantly interact with her, Haruki didn't even think about or mention Kazusa even once. The game already built Setsuna to be the most observant character to the point she became the only character to one-up Chiaki and belittled her, so if Haruki was insincere she would be able to tell almost immediately. He truly prefers Setsuna in Setsuna True, and the choice is up to the player
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>>286089876
>He also stated that he fell in love with Setsuna at first sight during CC common
I think this part is him lying to himself. I don't question him actually falling in love with Setsuna at some point in IC and him preferring Setsuna in ST, but I truly doubt it was a love at first sight.
He does need some copium when trying to forget Kazusa, both conscious and unconscious. Like the way he always keeps insisting that he was the one who confessed to Setsuna after the school concert, not the other way round.
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>>286089961
it depends on whether or not Haruki was lying to Kazusa during her bad end I think
I remember him saying he liked them both at first because they were attractive if I remember right
although I think he was also being abrasive on purpose when saying that so it might be a half lie
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>>286090383
You mean in Kazusa Normal? Yes, he said he initially fell in love with her because of her looks, he didn't say the same about Setsuna though. Whether that's true or not is also debatable, but I guess there's at least some truth to it since she refused to communicate with him at first.
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>>286083671
on this topic is Comic Party anything like TenInai or the TH2 Sasara route
I liked that writer's stuff a lot but it seems he only worked on those three unless he has some second name I'm unaware of
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tiny hands wife kazusa
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[ ] Try to get your own hand in the middle of theirs for a three-way hand-holding session.
[ ] Leave out of their way and allow the both of them to have their moment of sisterly affection.
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>>286090462
I think he meant the bad Ending where you failed to go into any route, where Kazusa failed to make a comeback and became irrelevant. He ended up with Setsuna but never resolved his feelings with Kazusa like he did in Setsuna True
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>>286091931
I just don't remember if Haruki said anything important there. The actual ending part was like 3 minutes long.
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>>286062987
He will become who, again?
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>>286093644
She's great
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>>286086129
This so much, Setsuna's love is the most complete even if I have to admit, Haruki and Kazusa have the most chemistry in the story. I think a troublesome woman like Kazusa is right for a guy like Haruki, Setsuna deserves a real man.
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>>286061287
Oh how I wish I could spend valentines with Setsuna-chan!
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>>286061287
Did I miss this Christmas WA2 rewatch or it wasn't done this time?
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>>286079999
Setsuna fucks like a pro
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Even when sad I find her the cutest!
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>>286061851
Would you consider she is a good girlfriend and wife?
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>>286099854
She's objectively a good gf and wife if you don't cheat on her. She's the best wife material out of the 5 heroines. She's literally a tradwife
All the other relationships force Haruki to basically be a stay-at-home dad (Chiaki, Mari) while the other makes money, or force him to take care of everything (Kazusa). Koharu is kinda weird but that's also a balanced relationship
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>>286089961
>He also stated that he fell in love with Setsuna at first sight during CC common
I don't remember this exact line, but I have a few thoughts on that info.
1) The rooftop wasn't their first sight, otherwise it'd be a suitably striking moment.
2) There's a sidestory of her first/second year where Haruki offscreen arranged to conceal her part-time job in exchange for her promoting their festival activities. I can buy him finding her cute at first sight, and getting more attached from helping her, although he maintained a professional distance until the rooftop scene made him go for it.
3) Setsuna didn't see him until she was withdrawing from Miss Houjo for year 3 at the start of the main story.
4) Haruki didn't know Kazusa till she transferred into the non-music class in third year. So if he had a private crush on Setsuna, it would've been the earlier of the two. Interdasting.
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>>286099854
That's a pointless question. A girl is a good girlfriend or wife if you personally feel comfortable and good with her. If your definition of comfort is being homey, taking care of chores etc. that's one thing, if you value always having something to do together that's another thing, if you like being able to sit in silence without feeling awkward - that's also viable.
Setsuna isn't my type of person for a few reasons. But I'd dream of having a friend like her.
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>>286100051
I have to admit she is the perfect woman
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Which version of Sound of Destiny is the best?

akko (Rina):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7uoqScYNk

Nana Mizuki (Rina):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKVPCRJmmU

Madoka Yonezawa (Setsuna):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT4nJL9vo9s

Hitomi Nabatame (Kazusa):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1dvJSDKwl0

Takuma Terashima (Takeya)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nntTI5ybb5Y
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>>286061287
>mogged by kazusa in IC
>mogged by kazusa in CC (despite not even being there lol)
>mogged by kazusa in Coda
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>>286100973
Definitely Setsuna for me every time and every way
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Watched both WA1 and 2 a few months ago for the first time. Explain to me why WA2 is more popular and even the internet pretends like WA1 anime doesn't exist. 2 is more like a basic romance/drama/SoL but 1 holy shit is probably one of the most unintentionally funny adaptations I ever watched.
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>>286101411
Because of that. WA2 is a well written mature story almost out of a novel, whereas WA1 is badly written slop
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IKUTSUMO NO, KABE WO NORIKOE
OTAGAI NI, KIZUTSUKEATTEMO
TAKUSAN NO, ITAMI TO TOMO NI
SHIAWASE WO KANJIRARERU KARA
IMA AISURU KOKORO GA, HITOTSU NI NARU
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>>286102013
you just know haruki and kazusa fuck to recordings of their old band songs with setsuna
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>>286101114
False
False
False
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>>286100973
To me this is my favorite Setsuna song
https://youtu.be/ZxpFsma3JAo
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>>286101411
White Album 1 is a mess. Why would anyone remember it? One of the worst MCs of all-time, nothing he said or did made any sense.
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>>286100973
And here are all the official versions of Powder Snow:

akko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FZYhX0fvIQ

Nana Mizuki (Ogata Rina)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Oo6j46gYc

Aya Hirano and Nana Mizuki (Morikawa Yuki and Ogata Rina)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Fi-8wdZIE

Brenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJwqpf8BaLc

Brenda (alternative version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHpy_QTh7xw

Suara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQnbbm8-psA

Madoka Yonezawa (Setsuna)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i588G4isJr8
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>>286102868
And here is Responsibility Response by Madoka Yonezawa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWhf6cB0lgs
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>>286102849
>MC's best friend (massive cuck) appears out of nowhere and runs over the autistic girl's bike without context or reason having plenty of time and driving slow
>Blurts out "your dad is having a heart attack" with no context or setup or ever seeing his father yet in the first place
I couldn't breathe
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>>286101114
True
False
False
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>>286102907
Beautiful. Setsuna is simply the best
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>>286061287
>cute
>vocalist
>tradwife
Bet with that voice she's quite the screamer in bed!
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Kazusa is okay but I can't stand tsunderes. I hate mind games and girls not being honest with their feelings. Setsuna is simply too good, I want to marry her
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>>286106080
>Bet with that voice she's quite the screamer in bed!
That's one way of admitting you're a secondary.
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I want to become one with Setsuna!
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Holy shit, kinda wanna' post general WA2 pics now it's not V-day but I dunno if I should overlap with Kazusa much
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>>286106080
7 fucking days of setsuna squealing man
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>>286108656
Nah, just let it go. WA2 concert in a week, we will at least have some new versions of songs released, save your pics for that occasion.
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>>286108866
Any chance for a remake or some special event? I wish we got a WA3.
>>286108707
Truly heavenly with Setsuna's beautiful singing voice. Very different from the annoying asian squeals, would be almost like she's singing
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>>286109005
I had to fastforward, I'm sorry, there's only so much I can take
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I NEED to mate with Setsuna!
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>>286080097
I wish they were lovers, it was clear Setsuna was into it.
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>>286111365
I'd read that route.
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>>286111591
Me too, it'd be so hot to watch them both go at it. School Days style remake where Setsuna fucks Kazusa when?
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>>286101411
I just continued to watch it due Nana Mizuki's performance as Rina.
Holy shit, she was good there.
The VN voice were quite bland in comparison, but I guess her route didn't have that much drama.
Maybe I'm easy to please but the visual art and those little touches (Touya lines for example literally spelled out).
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>>286102849
WA1 anime is basically an entirely different story to the VN. MC is a completely different person. He's just a generic visual novel main character with very little personality in the VN.

Rina is best girl in both the VN and anime though
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>>286112814
>He's just a generic visual novel main character with very little personality in the VN.
I can't stand blob MCs but that's still better than the WA1 anime MC.
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Imagine how good a threesome with them would be
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I love Setsuna-chan!
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i actually enjoyed white album 1
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Setsuna is the cutest!
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>>286101411
Rina and the senpai girl both deserved better than to be stuck in such a shitty series. The VN remake was such a fucking slog to read through, and you can tell half the story was gutted when they cut out the sex scenes.
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I'm sad this didn't get more doujinshi.
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I want to mate with Ogiso-chan!
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Kazusa listening to Haruki and Setsuna having sex was really pathetic (good)
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>>286116561
It was so satisfying gotta admit
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>>286117202
Don't care about Kazusa, she's boring!
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>>286117229
That isn't Kazusa
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>>286117202
Not sure if Kazusa or Nakamura sameface. The uniform looks correct though.
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>>286117306
It's Kusakabe Yuuki from ToHeart2
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>>286117343
The only way to tell is that the calendar was from 2009, before WA2 existed.
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>>286117448
And why does she get two months in the same book? Or is this yet another character?
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Setsuna would destroy Kazusa in a fist fight
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>>286117560
nah, Kazusa got that 'tard strength
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>>286108866
https://blog.aquaplus.jp/archives/11918
>Event Details: Live performance corner, talk corner, reading drama *, merchandise sales, etc.
>*: A reading drama written by Maruto Fumiaki. The content will be different for the daytime and evening performances.
Neat. There's a Saranami chapter next week too, unless it gets postponed AGAIN.
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>>286118204
Haruki cucking Kazusa with the crazy girl from Saranami
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>>286118497
She won in Setsuna True why does she need to cope
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>>286077649
>>286118381
Originally I thought Kazusa would be the pitybait heroine but it turns out it was both of them all along, bravo Maruto, let's see if you can pull that shit off again
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>that part in coda where kazusa literally says she's haruki's dog
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>that part in cc where chiaki larps as haruki's cat
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>>286119809
Chiaki and Koharu routes were really nice
I did not like maris much it felt like haruki was being even more retarded on purpose than normal
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>>286120043
Mari route is also my least favorite, but I believe Mari herself is to blame there. She lacked depth as a heroine compared to the other four and the novel completely failed to convince me that she is similar to Kazusa.
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>>286117560
As much as I love Setsuna I doubt it. Setsuna is too much of a lady to fight properly, Kazusa looks like she'd chimp out and lash not in controlled punches but tard rage. Setsuna may give a slap here and there but all her stat points went to social first and then mental skills.
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the only thing i like in mari's route is haruki's 200 IQ plan with the plane. mari's friend was more interesting than mari herself kek
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What's more likely

>Setsuna's mother route
>Kazusa's mother route
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>>286121670
The best thing about Mari's route was Setsuna. Well, that's a general rule for all CC side routes, but it's especially true for Mari.
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>>286121692
>please wait until i cry myself to sleep before going to your lover

that was so cucked
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Haruki is such a great MC
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Ogiso Sexsuna
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>>286121670
>>286121692
The problem with Mari's route is that the main conflict and drama are just not that interesting
The entire "rape" shit is stupid and then nothing happens until Mari goes schizo because of her being 25-26 and thinking she's too old (she isn't), or when she destroys her apartment thinking she was a replacement for Kazusa
Mari overall is too mentally well unironically enough to make it interesting. Meanwhile Koharu's route is carried by Koharu herself by being so fucking cute (the "I love you" call, the Valentine chocolate,...) and the stake is more real because you are actively seeing her entire life being destroyed, and Chiaki's route is just the best thing ever made
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>Haruki fucks up
>https://youtu.be/ckDefFgwpmk plays

this is literally what happens every 5 minutes
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>>286122843
yeah mari feels like she'd just find someone eventually

unlike kazusa/setsuna/chiaki who suffer from terminal oneitis
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>>286123032
>Haruki fucks up
>THIS plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzRN334TIHo
And you know you're in for some more pain.
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>when you finally reach the end of cc where setsuna is going to completely mog the fuck out of the other heroines and get the best moment of the route as she prepares to get cucked again
https://youtu.be/EkCnoCbP5HA
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>>286123136
that's when he makes THE decision in kazusa true right?
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>>286123215
This basically plays every time he makes a grand final decision during the climax of a route
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>>286123215
It plays every time he is choosing someone other than Setsuna.
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>>286121678
Kazusa's mother route, since they interacted more, and she's single, and sleeps around. Plus Setsuna's dad is scary.
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>>286124201
As sad as it makes me, this. Kazusa's mother is far more interesting and has more plot potential than Setsuna's family which is more traditional and doesn't have major conflicts going on.
I can see a Monogatari situation where both Kazusa and her mother compete for Haruki's affections and a threesome special end
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Truly the perfect woman
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Setsuna's dad punching the shit out of Haruki after he fucked his wife
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>>286124473
i don't think kazusa could recover from haruki picking her mom over her
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>>286125026
Probably, but I pay them no mind. My focus is only on Ogiso Sexuna. I desperately need a trad wife like her
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Fuck she's amazing!
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oh cool one of the two white album thread. We had a thread a bit early and it died. I really have nothing to say except that I love Kazusa and that I reread her route recently and I was happy to discover that I still like it. I meant to actually read the whole thing this time but I didn't. I read Mari's route before the full patch came out and when it did I just read Kazusa True and Neutral and this time I just read Kazusa True. One day I will actually finish the story

That aside, are you guys reading the manga the author's writing with the guy who drew those office ladies? I was onboard and I didn't dislike "the twist" but I just lost interest over time. It's a shame that he hasn't written anything on WA2's level since.
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>>286126086
I blame Saekano and his editor. They told him to focus on writing for people "half his target audience's age" and he thought they wanted him to write for 8 years old. Basically they requested him to dumb down his characters and plots to match "modern audiences" and it ruined his life.
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>>286126186
Saekano was okay but second part ruined it
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>>286061287
When's white album 3
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>>286126775
Maruto isn't doing it, he wants someone inspired by WA2 to do it, like he was with the original, but VNs are a dead medium.
>>286126426
>>286126186
Saekano was my first taste of his work and desu I really liked at how the conflicts went with "no one really is at fault" but having Eriri and Utaha come crawling back to Tomoya after leaving him for the big game company felt like such a weird choice I have to assume it was an editorial decision
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>>286126086
I still like and follow Saranami, but it's impossible to defend the creators' ass-dragging at this point. They've probably lost a ton of sunk-cost hate-readers that they could've kept stringing along with more regular releases, let alone readers who actually liked it. Guess we'll see what happens next week.
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>>286126841
>having Eriri and Utaha come crawling back to Tomoya after leaving him for the big game company felt like such a weird choice I have to assume it was an editorial decision
The way volume 8 was setup it was amazingly well done, kind of like Maruto was going back to his WA2 roots with the feud between Akane and Tomoya's circle right after she had given him a heavy blow by stealing Utaha and Eriri away from him. It even had potential as he got Izumi vs Eriri and what's his name dudebro to help him too.
Then they had to ruin it with volume 9 onwards.I really liked Megumi and the series had potential but it was squandered by childish jokes that weren't even that funny. Maruto should have played by his strengths which are drama and character focus
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>>286126941
>but it's impossible to defend the creators' ass-dragging at this point
I blame Yom. Just looking at his twitter:
>Yom 2023:
Color page or an art every week
>Yom 2026:
Nothing at all, not even a Christmas/New Years art, only reposts of announcements.

He is either burned out or depressed. Or maybe he had a fight with Maruto idk. But there's clearly an issue there.
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>>286126186
>They told him to focus on writing for people "half his target audience's age"
That's a pretty specific thing to say. Is that a paraphrase from an interview or something? Hard to imagine given that he's writing a light novel. Don't take it as a knock against WA2 or Saekano but these two and pretty much all anime-style media is written for the 15-25 demographic. Nobody is getting filtered because it's too complex
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Still need to check out Saekano one of these days.
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Looking through the thread, I have no idea where people even get the fanfic idea of Setsuna meeting Haruki before Kazusa and him immediately falling for the former when it was stated outright that Kazusa was the one that made him fall head over heels with just a glimpse of her face. Heck, even the live skit they did with time travel didn't even try to go there.
Crazy ideas aside, I remember the evening show from the last school festival being the most interesting what if scenario, with Kazusa and Setsuna about to unleash hell on whoever Haruki ended up with in CC if he didn't pick Setsuna.

I'm just hoping somebody actually creates a record for the skits this year, what with every access to the event being e+ only.
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>>286061287
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>>286123215
That part with the walk and where he remembers every heroine from the CC routes was so fucking good man
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>>286132291
I can't imagine not doing KTE last, thematically it works as an amazing mirror to IC where this time, Haruki doesn't fuck up and does the thing his heart wants even if it's extremely painful
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The only time Haruki shows up as a sprite/artwork I believe
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ngl I really don't like Haruki's dynamic with Setsuna, especially compared to Kazusa
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>>286134736
She is such a beautiful woman
>>286134322
Agreed, I think she's far too good for Haruki. He deserves a difficult woman like Touma
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>>286135250
Just compare how dull the extra ending for Setsuna is with the Kazusa one really
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>>286120043
>[mommy issues intensify]

>>286120783
>>286121670
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>>286122843
I actually liked Mari's route best overall in CC, even though she wasn't my favorite girl. There wasn't an overt villain, Setsuna got to be involved, and Haruki's stupidity was frontloaded in an early mental break that largely fulfilled his quota for the route. I felt like Koharu had the strongest start and finish, but a weaker middle section since Haruki had to agree to be passive support for so long to let things get that bad, plus Setsuna didn't get to show up till the end. But I like the retrospective pottery of Koharu's character arc foreshadowing Haruki's similar degeneration and breakdown in Cheating Route.

>>286123102
Her friend pointed out Mari could be like 30 by the time she got over Haruki, losing her best-remaining years to heartbreak.

Chiaki quietly ducks out in most scenarios, so I didn't get the impression that she had terminal oneitis like the main two.
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>>286135677
Mari is a wonderful human being who deserves to be loved, how many bosses would care about your mental health
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>>286135677
>Her friend pointed out Mari could be like 30 by the time she got over Haruki, losing her best-remaining years to heartbreak.
What exactly makes him so special to her, taking her virginity? Kindred workaholic?
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>>286135764
She opened her heart to him.
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>>286135857
It should have been me
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>>286135873
The break up in that route is fucking brutal man
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>>286135677
>Her friend
Her friend is one of my favourite characters in the entire VN
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Honestly, I like the thought of Alt-Haruki in America with Mari somewhere, finally on a day off and they're just snuggling in bed
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>>286135677
isn't chiaki still thinking about him in coda?
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>>286135969
I've always wondered how immune Haruki is in the auxiliary routes to getting oneshot if he ever encounters Kazusa again
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>>286135945
>>286135969
>[muffled SAWAKOOOOO in the distance]
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>>286136350
The scene where Mari and Sawako are drinking and Mari is basically spilling the tea and bragging about getting some on the regular but drops her phone in the wine bucket is hilarious
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>>286136062
The only mention of her I remember was Haruki saying he bumped into her once on the street, only for her to lick his ear and run off cackling; pic related.
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Chiaki route fucks Haruki up so bad, I don't really think she justifies it but the route is a real rollercoaster, has one of my favourite Setsuna moments too when she realises Setsuna can't be fooled, because Setsuna is way too good at that sort of thing
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>>286136297
Somewhat lower. There's a line about how he would've been able to get over Kazusa if he just moved on from Setsuna and their weird relationship. But it would be so fucking funny if he cheats on his CC side girl with Kazusa.
>hey remember the girl who drove me crazy in high school that I told you about... yeah...

another fun what-if is from the CODA bad end. if I'm not mistaken it's basically "nothing happens, the two just kinda hang around each other, the end". But he'll still get sent to do his interview.. and end up alone in a hotel room massaging Kazusa's feet.
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For me, it's Koharu. I love her so much bros and I want to protect her and cherish her forever...
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>>286136831
Worst route for me, drama with her friends was kinda retarded, funny that this is the only route they buy a condom and then don't use it.
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>>286136875
Best route for me.
>drama with her friends was kinda retarded
It was but it felt appropriately retarded considering their age.
I love her because she reminds me oof someone else I knew.
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>>286137024
Wish I'd been on /a/ when this aired
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>>286136921
Christ
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>>286136062
They met once and she teased him and that's it
Koharu meanwhile is explicitly stated by Setsuna to still be in love with him even by Coda
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I'm still mad we never get the backstory on why Takeya is so devoted to Haruki. Maruto wrote like a dozen side-stories and it never comes up
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>>286137529
Homewrecker
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>>286137506
Why wouldn't he be? At that point they've been friends for almost a decade. His reaction to the whole thing is pretty reasonable
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>>286137177
Some of the Coda lines just feel like getting punched especially if there's someone that comes to mind
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>>286126186
>Basically they requested Maruto to dumb down his characters and plots to match "modern audiences" and it ruined his life

This explains why Maruto chose to almost plagiarize Shikimori for Imasara, because this is precisely what the author of Shikimori-san had already done with Chiaki and Kazusa, turning them into the more palatable Miyako Shikimori and Ai Kamiya
The dude literally wrote the equivalent of Setsuna-True, but with Chiaki. The Kamiya Arc is basically a WA2 Introductory Chapter where Chiaki is Kazusa's rival instead of Setsuna, and of course, it manages to guarantee Haruki's loyalty.
Hence, Yami is a thinly veiled Expy from Kamiya, but with more traumas thrown in to force her to bring out more elements of Kazusa's personality. But holding the androgynous character of Kamiya and the fact she probably pegged Yuu in some point of their short relationship.
And yes, this imply Yuki will be the Shikimori of Imasara coming even more late than Hikari/Setsuna.

>>286136817
>>286136822

You definitely will enjoy Shikimori
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>>286138674
Go on without me, bros...
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>>286138674
HARUKI KITAHARA, THE MASTER OF DOOM, BY DOOM MASTERED!
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>>286136817
The process is a bit painful but Chiaki ends up completely rewriting Haruki's brain so he's cured
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>>286061287
I sincerely thought that was Kuroko from Index/Railgun
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>>286132904
it's so good because haruki doesn't even fuck kazusa in that route

the idea of a future with kazusa >>> his 5 years with setsuna, his career, his friends, his best bro, his whole life in japan
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>>286133326
looks like he's dying from food poisoning kek
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>>286068201
Fully deserved by being a bitch. Fuck you Setsuna
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>>286136297
Koharu After Story kinda gives an answer.
Koharu is now working at the same editorial department as Haruki, and learns they are planning to send him to Europe to interview Kazusa (he doesn't know that yet). After that she goes ballistic but manages to make them reconsider. She also goes
>The one reflected in the mirror was, of course, Koharu herself.
>Showered, wrapped in a towel, her hair undone…
>Seeing herself, with her sleek, naturally flowing long hair, forced her to remember her violent emotions from the day before.
>She had never let Haruki see her hair like this.
>At this point, she couldn’t say whether it was consciously or unconsciously…
>But, most likely, she would continue to keep herself from showing him this style.
TLDR: the weak should fear the strong

https://web.archive.org/web/20220709121826/https://wa2analysis.com/koharu-after-story/
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>>286139243
Outside of WA2 imo, the only other work I've seen do a good job of preying on oneitis is O Maidens, but it approaches in a much more juvenile and lighthearted way
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>>286139802
bc she'd look like kazusa?
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>>286129080
>Crazy ideas aside, I remember the evening show from the last school festival being the most interesting what if scenario, with Kazusa and Setsuna about to unleash hell on whoever Haruki ended up with in CC if he didn't pick Setsuna.
I hadn't heard of this one. I think a hero uploaded a video of the session that included the time travel skit though.
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>>286139824
Yeah. The meta knowledge about Haruki's fetish somehow reached her apparently.
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>>286139913
>The line where she says Haruki ruined her hair by blasting it with semen so much
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>>286126941
Why does no one talk about Kazusa Normal?
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>>286140281
It hurts a lot. I think most people will admit that it's arguably the most well written route (especially with the extra story) but it's not really fun to discuss
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>>286136297
>>286139802
It depends on the girl and the route. Some wouldn't have happened in the first place. One of the reasons that Coda can even develop its plot beats is that Setsuna kinda let them do their things despite being suspicious, especially after Tomo found out. The 3 CC girls would forbid Haruki from interacting with her as a whole, and after a while time would do their thing
Koharu wouldn't let Haruki meet Kazusa in the first place and would be the one to do the interview in Strasbourg
Mari's route already kinda dealt with the drama of Mari thinking she was being a replacement for Kazusa and Haruki already kinda dealt with that shit
Chiaki might straight up beat Kazusa up ngl
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>>286140450
Kazusa would not be able to survive an encounter with full power Chiaki. I think Haruki realizes that too
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>>286140450
It's not about if it could happen or not, it's about how endangered they would be if Haruki were to meet Kazusa. And I'd say all three wouldn't stand a chance, maybe only Chiaki could trick him somehow.
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>>286140494
Haruki meeting Kazusa once is fine he wouldn't cheat just because of that. In order to reach the point of him going completely to Kazusa the entirety of Coda common must happen so that he has many chances to interact with her. He can hold it back otherwise
If the entirety of Coda common did happen then yeah Kazusa probably sweeps, though it still depends on Haruki's mindset, because he still managed to stay loyal to the end if you pick Setsuna True
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>>286140547
>Haruki meeting Kazusa once is fine he wouldn't cheat just because of that. In order to reach the point of him going completely to Kazusa the entirety of Coda common must happen so that he has many chances to interact with her. He can hold it back otherwise
That's probably fair, but I think he was resisting stronger than ever because he was with Setsuna, because he knew the history of three of them, because Setsuna is someone they hurt so deeply before. He wouldn't have a history like that with any of the three.
Besides, if Kazusa were to meet Haruki, it's almost a guarantee that she'd try to meet him again, consciously or unsconsciously.
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Are people seriously doubting the hold that Kazusa has on Haruki? Even in the live skit that Maruto wrote, it was added in as a joke, but even he understood that Setsuna giving up on Haruki meant that all the competition Kazusa has left are small fry.
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>>286140281
imagine a dozen gosling 9/11s, that's what KN feels like
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>>286140677
Kazusa is literally his muse
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>>286140473
>Kazusa would not be able to survive an encounter with full power Chiaki

This is would have happened if Kazusa meets Chiaki in some point
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Haruki x Utaha...
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>>286140825
They already met once
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>>286140547
Besides, you say he managed to stay loyal in ST, but that's just him not going all physical. But he helped her wash her hair completely naked, they hugged, held hands and so on. His heart was clearly not 100% with Setsuna, and that's The Setsuna we're talking about.
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>>286140929
Yeah because he is still in love with Kazusa throughout the route. He is also still in love with Setsuna even by the end of Kazusa True. He loves both of them and him picking one doesn't mean he will stop loving the other. What matters is who he truly loves more and prefers during that specific route in the end
What I meant with him staying loyal to Setsuna is that despite all the temptation and the interaction he had with Kazusa like the naked bath, he still ended up choosing Setsuna at the end of ST, and by the time of Setsuna Mini After Story he literally doesn't think about Kazusa even once anymore despite that being the route where she stays in Japan and keeps being close friend with him
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>>286141048
My point was that it's not what you'd usually call staying loyal. And it's Setsuna who can hold such a special place in his heart, I sincerely doubt that's the case for the other three.
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>>286139685
Please understand. She was a schizo
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>>286140724
So many of their most tender scenes got stuffed in Cheating Route. You can't miss out on it if you're a Kazusafag.
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>>286142022
Going throught KN hurts, but it hurts so good with the way it sets your expectations for ST and KT
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Izumi Chiaki
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>>286143132
with long hair she'd be a 11/10
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>>286143139
We saw that during the stage and no. She looks worse
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>>286143391
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Fuck it, I'm rereading WA2. I just love Coda Common so much.
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>>286145240
Yep. The climax with Kazusa is the best voice acting in the VN and probably some of the best I've ever heard. I can't choose anyone but her
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>>286145240
What happens in common again? Haruki doesn’t let Kazusa make a move on him when she pinned him down earlier on her apartment?
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>>286145901
Just a lot of endearing and heartwarming stuff. It's where Haruki's and Kazusa's chemisty is at its' best. And a lot of Haruki being torn between his life he worked so hard to attain and the old passion that's reigniting again.
>>286145872
Absolutely. I remember reading CC back in 2018 when CC patch was just released and getting a feeling that Coda won't have a scene as strong as Setsuna talking to Koharu at the end of the latter's route, but man I was glad to be so wrong.
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>>286068201
I'll be here for her, always!
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>>286145872
for me it was Kazusa's deep crying voice in the apartment in normal
god I love Kazusa
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>>286068201
Time is passing. What can you do? The things that keep threads active for old things are schizophrenia, autism, and red vs blue waifu wars. We don't have "lore" i.e fantasy elements to discuss like Nasufags. We don't have schizophrenia. The only one I remember is the guy who used to show up to shit on the translation. Guess he gave up. We do have a bit of red vs blue but I think for that to work as fodder for endless arguments/conversations it can't be the main focus. I've read the VN, and the characters are pretty well defined and I have my thoughts and preferences and I've expressed them many times. I love blue, I kinda like red but I vastly prefer blue. I don't feel like insulting red and redfags and I understand the appeal because it's right there in the VN. So that's that.
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>>286147037
In this scene? >>286142022
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>>286147898
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The translation is still shit. I already gave up trying to correct the TL team early on because it was obvious they didn't know what they were doing with their worse-than-MTL-tier translations, and the same for the people that consumed same shit. Hell, I even pointed out a lot of their mistranslations, but they simply "fixed" that and thought there was nothing else wrong with their crap.
In the end, I just chose to instead interact with actual Japanese fans who can consume more of the recent extra WA2 bits Maruto hands out from time to time instead of dealing with people who are okay with settling for less than passable "translations".
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>>286147466
Now look what you've done. >>286148065 Glad you're alive, I guess.
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>>286148515
It's kinda nice, actually.
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She is a wonderful girl, I want to marry her!
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>>286148580
I knew we were forgetting another schizo somewhere. Thanks for your efforts too, I guess?
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>>286149674
She sings like an angel!
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>>286147037
Same seiyuu as Wani from GuP
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i want to see wa2 in this year’s melli
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>>286150554
and a tonne of other roles. She's in a bunch of VNs as well. I was playing CHAOS;HEAD recently and she voiced a big scary one who I assume is secretly a dork (I dropped it). Shame most of it is just supporting roles. I wonder if she's semi-retired now because looking through her roles it looks like she used to have more main ones but nowadays it's mostly supporting roles. She's about the same age as my dad which is pretty funny to think when you're playing an eroge.
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My biggest surprise with Nabatame was when I realized she was the one voicing Sora from Baldr Sky. Didn't sound like her at all, a much higher pitch and sometimes kinda squeaky even. And that was the same year as her voicing Kazusa in IC.
https://youtu.be/ov8bFdk-OGc?list=RDov8bFdk-OGc&t=63
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>>286151517
What is the character like?
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>>286152113
Tsundere, a bit airheaded, tries to be tsukkomi-ish but isn't really fit for it.
She is the main heroine, but I wasn't a fan.
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>>286147898
why did I think of the scene where Kazusa masturbates to the sound of Haruki and Setsuna having sex
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>>286152438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5171TqKUKbU
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>>286152666
Kazusa would make a fine Chaos rep.
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>>286147466
We have the remakes and rehashes of WA2 even if they are more bland, so, we have Shikimori and Oregairu
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>>286152931
I feel like saying Oregairu is a bland version of WA2 most places but threads like this one would get you lynched, even though you're right.
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>>286152741
She could pass of her retardation (complimentary) as chaos yeah
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>>286153306
She's so fucking proud of this I love her
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>>286153306
The biggest baby
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>>286152931
Keeping a thread alive by comparing the thing we actually want to talk about with its supposed imitations is just too pathetic. Besides, I don't know about Shikimori (another anon actually recommended it to me ITT) but oregairu isn't like WA2 really.I watched S1 and stopped after S2 because of the artstyle change. I don't remember if there are more seasons but I also don't remember it being WA2 like except in that it has a kinda gloomy/difficult but also very cool yamato nadeshiko type and a more outgoing sunny type and a somewhat evil girl and a somewhat pathetic but also very cool older woman who is in a position of authority over the MC and you could map that onto WA2 heroines. But it's really not the same at all. MC is also nothing like Haruki. I remember him being pretty emo. Nothing like Haruki at all aside from having the teenage Japanese MC look but that part is just universal.
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>>286153492
Also can't forget how mad she gets at failing at cooking, no wonder Haruki kind of calls her out as a rotten, useless loser (but HIS loser, specifically)
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>>286153492
That's a very crisp looking CG. How'd you get it like that?
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>>286153530
>another anon actually recommended it to me ITT
It's the same clown who's been shilling this garbage for a while.
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Shikimori/
Just ignore
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>>286153845
>It's the same clown who's been shilling this garbage for a while

Is not my fault Maruto chose specifically THAT work as a base for Imasara. Anyway, Shikimori is still a rehash/imitation from White Album 2, you can dislike Shikimori but that doesn´t change it is still inspired by WA2.

Also, I´m not the only one anon who recommended Shikimori

>>286153530
Yes, the MC of Shikimori is much more similar to Haruki, but if he would have had Setsuna parents. With Kamiya the blue-haired girl as the Expy of Kazusa. Being this the reason why Yuu and Yami of Imasara are Izumi and Kamiya with the names ligerally changed.
And the main girl is Chiaki in all her glory. If you are a fan of Chiaki, you will like Miyako Shikimori, if not, is very obvious you won´t like Miyako.
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As I said, the mangaka of Shikimori even made the FMC would adopt Chiaki's exact same short haircut in the university epilogue to make it even clearer that the MC and she are Haruki and Chiaki reborn.
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>>286153557
I used magpie with one of the upscaling filters ACNet I think, this screenshot was taken years ago so I'm sure something better is available now.
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>>286154580
Help me with the comparison. Because I just started reading Shikimori, and while I can see some of Chiaki's intensity in Shikimori, there's not much else beyond that.
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>>286152282
>That image
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>>286156385
I see you're an Assembler fan as well.
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>>286155419

Because it's something that's gradually revealed as the plot advances, just as what happens with Chiaki in Closing Chapter. Yuu, like Haruki, is an unreliable narrator who initially doesn't realize the reason why Miyako is in love with him is due to his weakness, his low self-esteem, and his malleability— to what extent he's being manipulated even if Shikimori, like Chiaki with Haruki, genuinely loves him.
It's not until the Kamiya arc that you begin to see Shikimori openly displaying that more manipulative side, similar to Chiaki (and also the more perceptive side of Chiaki AND Setsuna), without which she wouldn't have been able to neutralize the menace who Kamiya represented as Kazusa's Expy.
The Shikimori mother arc, after the end of the anime, in chapters 65-68, is where all this explodes and where Izumi has his equivalent of the scene of Haruki confronting Chiaki after the ghosting (and where Yuu directly says "I'm not going to let you act like you're going to throwaway up me").
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>>286156738
Who wins in Shikimori?
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>>286156785
Obviously, the main titular heroine, Miyako Shikimori. As I said, Shikimori-san is basically a WA2 Introductory Chapter Chiaki-True End, where Chiaki occupies the place who Setsuna had in the OG timeline as the main rival of Kazusa.
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is going on the pilgrimage worth it
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>>286118497
I didn't realize those were Kazusas dancing on Haruki's head at first. The pic has terrible upscale quality even on Pixiv.
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>>286158290
I'm EU so that would be super cheap for me
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>>286158373
I was planning on going there and then colmar for gochiusa after but I can't justify traveling to europe just for that at this point
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>>286159299
can semen really damage hair
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>>286160040
>Let me hit you!

Perfectly mentally healthy girl in a totally consented scene who definitely is not a rape or SA. If Kazusa would have been raised in the West, she definitely would have ended in a psychiatric institution.
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>>286137024
>Walk of Pride

12 years after and it´s still ironically very funny. Also, Maruto remind us in pic related why Kazusa is the besto grill
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I wonder if there's any truth whatsoever to the idea that you can gain insight into the state of mind or character of someone just from how they play music. Kazusa's mom does it a lot in CODA and in general it's a pretty common trope in anime. It's a good plot device but it sounds like absolute BS to me.
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>>286061287
>thread still alive
belated happy bday to the 2nd best girl
i really need to get back reading WA2, stopped when Coda was still not fully tl'd
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>>286152666
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAb72q704wQ
if that happened to me irl i would be a fucking wreck



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