How can I find a Saber gf?
>>286142312>>286142453I never heard about that
Mongrels got no balls
Why isn’t Achilles and Odysseus as shilled as Heracles? Aren’t they at least if not more famous than Herc
I know religious figures are out of the question, but did they ever have a saint servant? Asking since I haven't played FGO and like 99% of servants are exclusive to it.
>>286142598Become a hero of justice
>>286143086Saint MarthaSaint Georgios
>>286143057Achilles is often considered the most famous Greek hero in the West from a pre-Disney perspective, but Disney's Hercules kinda changed all thatOddy definitely isn't as famous as those two though. Yes, even with the Odyssey. His epic is a lot more phoned in than the Iliad though. The Iliad is like "oh let's dig into the true nature of humanity and war" and then the Odyssey is like Homer decided to write the most sloppy isekai LN trash that was mostly just wish-fulfillment slop
>>286143086JeanneMarthaGeorgeAmakusa somewhatGalahad kinda
>>286143057DisneyAlso, Achilles dies in his own story so he's more of a tragic figure. He's the most famous "invincible hero with a clear weakness" in mythology.
>>286143057Nasu played the Labors of Heracles games as a kid and so Herc has always been a very special hero to him. THE hero, so to speak. He's not wrong that Heracles was more venerated over the other Greek heroes from a Greek and Roman perspective, and that his fame is near top tier for Greek heroes, but Achilles was generally more famous until Disney's Hercules came out
>>286143135>>286143301Also while not saints, Metatron and Pope Joan are pretty notable cases in a similar way.
>>286142282Sigmaballs
>>286143057Achilles isn't as wanked powerlevel-wise but he always got to achieve bullshit, like somehow blitzing berserk Atalanta with his heel pierced.
Achilles didn't have an entire series of films about him that were foundational to the Sword and Sandal genre and a four year long tv show that had a spin-off that became one of the most popular action series of the 90s
Gil humiliation soon...
>Lend me some key, Ishtar, this is base Gilgamesh we're up against
>>286143057Because Heracles is the greatest hero of classical myth, why is that so hard to grasp? Achilles died like a dog in front of Troy, Heracles sacked the city in a few days
>>286143107The King... is too FAT.
>>286142276Total Emperor love
AIEEEEEEEE SUPER SEIBAH SAVE ME
giwtwm
>>286143057From my POV I always thought Heracles was the most famous Greek hero.Either way Fate Achilles is still a beast, dude has like 5 NP and even without invincibility he's still strong af. No idea about Fate Odysseus, never played FGO.
Glad the recent episode gave us a nice number of Phillia fanart.
>>286143864Blasphemous. My King is /fit/.
>>286143864The king is not fat enough.
My Emperor...
>>286143864Lord Ogress
Is so perfect
>>286143057>In the Fate universe the Einzberns pushed the Hercules movie so that Berserker would be more powerfulThis was a fun factoid
>>286143057>Aren’t they at least if not more famous than HercAbsolutely fucking not.Maybe when you get people to use "ulyssean" as a synonym for cleverness. It will be a herculean task.
>>286144222
>>286144247To be fair, "Odyssey" and "Achilles' Heel" are both pretty widespread terms
>>286144247Herc simply has been whitewashed (and he deserves it for being based)
Richard so lucky
Why do people keep asking 'why is nobody dying' when I can't think of a single Fate work where there was an excess of death in the first half (except Heavens Feel for obvious reasons)Like Zero, the standard favorite, only had Assassin taken out in the first half and everything else was in the second half.
>>286144247Does it count if it's a synonym for Irish schizobabble?
>>286144666Barely anyone died 10 volumes in
>>286143057I'm pretty sure the average person can think of Heracles in popular culture significantly more than Achilles be it something like the Disney movie, a TV show or one of the actual movies with him. Heck he's even a Marvel Hero.
>>286144435
>>286144712But we’re talking about the anime
>Artoria and Arthur>Nero and RichardWho would be the Jeanne and Okita equivalents?
>>286144871There is real equivalent, but Sir Gawain kinda looks like he could be male Jeanne (or Artoria)
>>286143057Who the fuck has heard about Achilles or Odysseus, but not about Heracles?
>>286144666You also forget that Zero was half the length of Strange Fake too, it's more like people expected a more proportional amour of character deaths. Apo had a good amount of eliminations early and all Fate routes usually had one servant/master pair get removed off in the first quarter
>>286144871But Richard is not a male Nero.
>>286145265The only one who died early on Apocrypha was Siegfried and that's only because he killed himself. They didn't start dying untill like halfway through the season with Berserker
Need more long hair Nero outfits
>>286143864Still would
>>286145398
>>286145398We have Draco for that.
>>286145342Didn't Sportacus die in like episode 2?
>>286145810No? He got taken in by the black faction and got only killed later when he started rampaging against everyone
>>286145701That's not enough
>>286145265>Zero was half the length of Strange Fake tooHow much page count
>>286145810Sportacus would have won the Holy Grail.
Nero is Artoria except hotter, cuter, more fun, bubbly personality, and red
>>286145976>Noble Phantasm: Apple EX levelKek
>>286146001Everyone who played Pokemon knows that Red is better than Blue
Has anyone here read KnK?Is it kino?
>>286143057Hercules has always been THE Greek hero, dude.
>>286146001Nero is an obnoxious bitch and one of the worst cases of gratuitous genderbends in Fate. I don't like Artoria much, but Nero is awful.
>>286143943>we're finally getting suggestive artlet's fucking go
>>286145540Why is Francesca such a fat whore?
>>286146155Take that back because Nero is a total adorable sweetheart
>>286145540Sex with all 4
>>286143057
>>286142276The thumbnail from the catalog and slightly into the thread makes it look like the bottom right's figure is flexing her massive hard gains.
How she looks at me after a long day at work
>>286146107>Some of Nasu's best work>Have to make it past the absolute filter that is Touko spilling her spaghetti about concepts that weren't refined until later booksThe first book is a filter
>>286146001Nero is Artoria with everything interesting about her removed.Glad her anime flopped
>>286146437>Nero is Artoria with all the boring shit removed FTFY
>>286146331Cannot unsee it now.
>>286143924Arerere?
>>286146243Too much candies
>>286146330God his HA design is so dogshit
>>286142886The King has no balls anymore
>>286146330thankfully Proto had the cute Perseus
>>286146743Man, this scene in UBW with Gil blinding Illya made me feel so bad
>>286145318>Red version of King Arthur>Mentally ill>Loves music and performing>Has a Skill that allows them to be good at stuff
>>286146925My king Richard is not mentally ill.
My Emperor is so beautiful
Umu
You know who won a Holy Grail War against 3 Greek servants, including Achilles, though? And whose name is synonymous with having balls and big dick?
>>286143267>The Iliad is like "oh let's dig into the true nature of humanity and war" and then the Odyssey is like Homer decided to write the most sloppy isekai LN trash that was mostly just wish-fulfillment slopVery true. I felt disappointed reading it, though of course it had it's moments.
>>286146878That's because the anime didn't make it clear what an evil bitch Illya is. Gil did nothing wrong, she deserved all of it. As did Shinji.
>>286147282disgusting luckshitter
Hourly mana transfers with Nero
>>286146925These are stretches.
>>286147345Illyasviel is just misunderstood
>>286147345VN Illya was a different beast. She was so sadistic and cruel in the abd endings the new sanitized Illya feels weird.
>>286147585The word you're looking for is unsocialized. She was raised by the AI golem
>>286146878The movie version is more comedic.
>>286142886>Same guy that dodged IshtarKing of Lies, for sure.
>>286143057in fgo you are always leaning into achilles and fighting against herc or some variant of him
>>286143057Odysseus is ruined by his retarded super sentai getup
>>286147669>Raised by three autists, all three of which are delusional, and an AI golem hellbent on muh grailIt was over for her from the start
if herc is so popular, why doesnt he have a computer malware named after him?checkmate hercKEKs>muh muh disney movieliteral children's cartoon, GROW UP
>>286147843Will never understand the autism of making Ancient Greece a mecha setting when no Greek Servants seen beforehand had a sci-fi design.
total haruri love
>>286147910Artemis had some mechanical stuff
>>286148100why is she doing the absolute cinema pose?
>>286146925Also he's super genki and nice to his master.
>>286148134To be fair standing up after being shot by the psycho mob killer mage who currently has a gun pointed at her and looking him dead in the eye as she tells him to go fuck himself is absolute cinema.
>>286146401>>286146505>>286146971>>286147151>>286147430>>286148054
Haven't watched SF since it actually started airing. Is it as good as the pre-release stuff was?
>I don't know. The morning of the day I got sick, I've been thinking. It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that, I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over.
>>286148206A bit of a rushed adaptation and some weird decisions with certain fight scenes, but other than that, it's pretty good.
>>286148054The sexiest woman SHAFT ever drew.Oh if they ever got their hands on loli Nero...
>>286148183Based Nero. No wonder why she spends her entire game constantly trying to sleep with the protagonist and she doesn't mind being naked in front of them
>>286148256Cool. I'll probably watch it once it's finished, then.
>>286142276Strange Fake have>servants and master grand battle for the typical fate fags. >sakuga for the adhd shonentards >America for hoodweeb >Gil and Enkidu for the fujos >A classic boy meet girl Shoujo plot line for the shippers. literally everything in balance. This is probably the best modern typemoon entry since decade.
>>286148418and recently a slice for the yuritard too
>>286148418>The bloated cast for the NaritafagsI am pleased with this.
>>286148183>>286148328
>>286147282Is it true that Astolfo had sex with every girl that courted his bros just to prove that all women are whores?
>>286147843Kamen Rider Odysseus with a mecha trojan horse is fucking kino I will not stand for this slander.
>>286148678>>286148328>>286148183
>>286142598How can I find an Astolfo bf?
>>286146107It's good. Better than Fate but not as good as Tsukihime Original
>>286148851Second most attractive female Yggdmillennia
>>286147774It only speaks to his KINGLY physical abilities. Only he can dodge the Gods
>>286148851If you have cardboard as a summoning catalyst, I heard it helps
>>286148240What does this mean?
>>286148760Yes, he also had sex with Ruler who courted his bro just to prove she's a whore.
>>286149261Now this is femcel art
>>286149222The redish purple really brings it all together.
Why is she like this...
>>286147282No, but I do know who got his ass kicked by Mordred, despite being helped by another Servant
>>286149326She's Roman
>>286143057I find Fate's specific version of Achilles pretty boring. He looks like a rejected Kamina design. Odysseus is also pretty lame. Type moon really just fucked up with them and they're stuck with the far cooler, more iconic Herc.
I don't understand the richardxayaka femcel fanart spam
>>286149441I like Fate Achilles, he could be a bit edgier but he's fine>cooler, more iconic Herc.Herc is way more misstreated than Achilles or Odysseus in Fate in my opinion, he's either a mindless retard used to make other characters look stronger or the edgelord OC that is Alcides.
>>286149526>he's either a mindless retard used to make other characters look strongerOnly schizo powerscalers care about that. The average reader and viewer sees the merit in the fights, not the results. Normie reactors on youtube fucking love herc and dont give a shit that he gets his ass beat every time, they all basedfaced when Hippo mentioned his name.
>>286149396True
>>286149441Odysseus was pretty good as a smart antagonist in his first appearance, after that he’s pretty much reduced to mecha jokes and muh penelope
Nero is a whore
is it just me or is she really fucking cute
>>286149748of Babylon
>>286149626Yeah because Heracles is a popular hero not because they give a shit about FSN Herc.
I remember trying to read the LN but getting bored, is the anime at least passable?
>>286149760>People think this is a Saber face
>>286149897The saber face us hippolyta
>>286146330The fuck Nasu has been wanking Perseus for that LONG? This is from FHA right which scene is it from?
>Perseus
>>286149748Mine
I don't like this Nero spammer.
>>286149526Yeah, but he's so fucking cool and Y U G E
>>286150259>Plain girl's appeal instantly doubles when you see her exotic markings
>>286150087>black womanIt's clearly a tan
>>286150296Anyway, have more Phillia.
>>286150321She's African
>>286150321>Alcides’s great grandmom
I like this Nero spammer
>>286149703Guess who wrote Odysseus after Atlantis, anon!
Mommy tier list
>>286149703The fate (heh) of all FGO Servants.
>>286150529*smooch*
>>286149865Yeah, the animation and art style are pretty good. Great music as well
>>286150087was she really black tho?
>>286150509Why is EMIYA an EX mommy
>>286150679They removed his edge and flanderized him into a meme who cooks and cares for loli Servants.They also made a blackface nigger version of him.
>>286142886I forget, what is he referring to? An actual line on the floor? Meltryllis?
>>286150638She was Ethiopian
>>286143057Why shill Odysseus? His entire story is one fuckup after another and barely surviving.
>>286150851>His entire story is one fuckup after another and barely surviving.This, but Artoria instead (face of the franchise btw)
Post your favoriten3x3 servants, You can choose from any sources.
>>286151122Nasu has to write Artoria or Takeuchi will cut his funding, bro.
>>286151254Not your general, fuck off back to vg
>>286151296I thought Nasu was one of the type moon owners?
I cant imagine pale rider losing
>>286151539He is
>>286151541Neirher can Narita
>>286151539He is but that doesn't prevent Takeuchi from having him on a leash
>>286151584>>286151664>Nasu literally has a tard wrangler drawfag who's a Seibah simpTruth might be stranger than fiction sometimes
>>286151718That’s the whole reason TM took off yes, Takeuchi reigning Nasu in
>>286151539Takeuchi was Nasu's first investor. Any Saberwank is because Takeuchi wants it.
can someone explain what the FUCK this means without using terms i need to be as intimate with the nasuverse as a welshman with sheep to understand?
>>286151902Prelati’s NP is so good it fools the world itself into thinking the illusion is real.The world will notice something’s not right in 5 days and will correct it
>>286151902The world is like an onion, it has layers. Prelati just took a big fat shit on one of them, and it will take a while before the Counter-jannies come to clean it up.
>>286151902Basically, Earth has its own Reality Marble. That's the texture of the planet.Ea's Anti-World isn't Anti-World World but Anti-World in a sense of removing the texture of the planet to its desolate and empty state.
>>286151989my fucking sides
>>286151976But it's still an illusion so it's a shitty NP.
>>286151976Can Francesca use this as well?
>>286152074If the world gets fooled by it then by that point the illusion becomes reality
>>286152074>Prelati convinces you so deeply you shat yourself that you actually shit yourself>Somehow anons think this is weak and a shitty NP because people are able to recognize it isn't real 1/10 times and because it doesn't work on anyone so autistic they ignore how the world worksIt's guaranteed to work 99% of the time
>>286152074Only if you're resistant to illusions. The NP works against even Ishtar.
>>286152181>>286152205He couldn't fool Gilgamesh though.
>>286152213He technically did given he took Enkidu's form and Gil was pissed off by it.
>>286151254GARcher is still my favorite to thse days.
>>286151902Imagine if everything in the world is a giant reality marbleIn reality the world is just a barren rock with nothing but molten magma on itAll the grass, trees, mountains, all that shit is part of the reality marbleNow imagine that its like a thousand reality marbles stacked on top of each otherEach layer has a different reality to it entirelyThere's layers to the world where all the magical shit went to after the age of humanity started, which is why you don't see any of the magic animals anymore in the modern age, they all moved down towards the lower textures of the world.The reason gaia hates reality marbles and tries to crush them, is because they interfere with Gaia's own reality marble. Here's a visual example of how it worksBasically, since reality isn't real, but rather reality is just something Gaia is dreaming/imagining at all times, you can sometimes fool the world itself by altering the texture of the world a little bit before Gaia notices
>>286150844She was Aethiopian. Ethiopia is just the land named after the mythical kingdom because they assumed it would be somewhere in that region.
>>286152205Also according to Nasu and Narita there is no normal Servant that can fool the texture of the world. Prelati only can because he is stronger in FSF than other settings:>By the way, while making others hallucinate wastelands and piles of snow is normal, what Philia mentioned about "deceiving the very Texture of the World" is, per a Nasu check I got, a level impossible for a normal Servant's Noble Phantasm, and a power Caster only has because circumstances I can't explain here make him stronger in the FsF timeline than in the regular timeline.And this is still weaker than Mystic Eyes of Roses per Prelati's own admission.
Nero's neros
>>286152213Of course it couldn't Gil has clairvoyance on par with Solomon and Merlin
>>286144225where did you get that from?
>>286152369What Servant did Faldeus even summon? Is he ever going to do anything rather than just watch?
>>286152384He got a Hassan.
>>286152435Oh, so that was what the skull was. Nice. Which one did he get?Please don't say he got a jobber.
>>286152213that wasn't his NP
>>286152489>HassanBro.....
>>286143984Her game's remake is a never ever....
>>286152489I'm anime only, but from what I heard from source readers his Hassan is actually strong. Or at least not the standard jobber Hassan.
>>286152506Surely not all of them are jobbers, right.Right?
>>286152369It was from the Stay Night interviews>>286152384He pulled out the Hassan with the highest presence concealment and autism iirc. He's a bit of a suicide bomber iirc He has the ability to drag a target into the shadows/underworld of sorts
>>286152489Not a jobber, but not very optimal for a grail war either
>>286152525Hassans exist to die
Hassans can't be jobbers when they've never been depicted as being strong to begin with.
>>286152560All Servants do.
can we all bully the nerofaggot so he stops spamming his copypaste whore?
>>286152525>>286152560ahem
>>286152093Yes, but she needs to set it up
>>286152588No i don't think so
>>286152286Yes, and they said the Aethopian had black skin.There is a whole myth about Phaethon accidentally turning people black.
>>286152664I'm pretty sure Andromeda is always depicted with white skin
>>286152288Maybe it's because Prelati has been fucking around so much he/she gained fame over it amongst mages. Also, Mystic Eyes of Roses is basically one step below Magic in terms of how powerful it is, so yeah it does seem accurate. It's an Idea Blood as well ain't it?
>>286152588I agree, Nero doesn't even appears in FSF.
>>286152522About as strong as Arm-kun, powerful but ultimately still an Assassin servant so practically summoned in a glass vessel
>>286152778She appears in the next volume, trust.
>>286152738In greek arts, it means nothing. Perseus here is depicted as a naked black man to stand out.And the other depictions I found dates from after 1500 something, so basically when painting and stuff were comissioned by white snobs.
>>286152591>One of his notable acts was Jobbing so that they could kill an unkullable demonHe's based, but he also existed to job. He's OP though, has the stats of a Saber servant
>>286150414Ayaka, and her mana, are going to be destroyed.
>>286152807God, she's so ugly
>>286150509God I want to fuck EMIYA
>>286152823???He literally never jobbed, he made Tiamat killable and then BTFO her children.
>>286152862Said no one ever
>>286152878Shinji...
>>286152773>It's an Idea Blood as well ain't it?Yeah, it is.
>>286152591>the only way Nasu could make a threatening Assassin was by making him a Saber in disguiseWhat an absolute joke of a class
>In both their fights Gil failed to even scratch Alcides>John CHADgard on the other hand landed a fatal blow on him and is the reason why Alcides is goingGilbros...
>>286152960He did have 'Win' in his name to be fair...
>>286152960>Alcides couldn't piss Gil off and steal Ea like he planned>Hippolyta and Prelati pissed Gil off with ease>Alcides couldn't even touch Gil without Ishtar and HuwawaAlcides is a fucking fraud.
Why is there no lesser grail in Fate/Apocrypha? This seems like a pretty important plot point but the anime doesn't mention it even once. Shirou is like "yeah, I'll just use my body to rip apart the Greater Grail and access the root lol who cares I prepared for this for 60 years"
>>286151902The texture is what's considered real, so when you fool the texture you've substituted the truth with your own version of reality. At least temporarily
>>286153158Apocrypha story makes no sense
>>286153158What's the lesser Grail's role again?Apo's Grail is still clean and pure and Amakusa can just access it with his NPs.
>>286153218Servant souls go inside the lesser grail until it has enough souls to manifest the greater grail, it's supposed to work that way corrupted or not.
Apocrypha is in the same Universe as Zero and Strange Fake right? Cause in the end that one guy from Yaggademilenia joined El Malloy's class and even Flat made a cameo
>>286153386It's not, Caules and Flat just join in every timeline. Zero doesn't even exist in the Apo timeline since Nazis stole the grail.
>>286153386Mainline timeline is only fz, fsn, cf. Everything else has 1-2 things changed
Who is the best Hassan to summon? The Hassan that cosplay as a Saber doesn't count.
>>286152960>Alcides =< Gilgamesh>John >>> Alcides >John >>> Gilgamesh
>>286153545Unironically no name Hassan
>>286153524Case files takes place between Zero and FSN
>>286153573Anon, she kills you the second you summon her. Its like saying Survivor is the best stand to have.
>>286153335>manifest the greater grailWell, Darnic extracted it out in Apo so I'm guessing it doesn't need a lesser grail to manifest it anymore.
>>286153524Zero and SN aren't in the same line either
>>286153386>>286153459El Melloi's class will always have the same students in every timeline. Rin will always go to London after FSN. Doesn't matter if it's Fate, UBW or HF.
>>286153632>she kills you the second you summon her.True. I hadn't thought about that, i was just thinking about their powers.
>>286153459Does this mean there is a Kiritsugu still being an autistic loner and a Shirou in Apo?
>>286153632>>286153545>>286153843Zealot-chan won't kill you if you share her goals, you just have to not be a filthy v*mpire and also be a good boy. Realistically, either Cursed Arm Hassan played straight with a competent master, Serenity, or First. All other Hassans are kind of jobbers, those three are jobbers too but they at least have some tricks they can use granted they don't run into a 1v1 against a Lancer
>>286154005Kiritsugu is still a mercenary in Apo and Shirou is in a romantic comedy daily life with Rin and a Luvia-raised Sakura.
>>286153545King Hassan but I doubt you can summon him
>>286154049She killed Jester in his non-vampiric mage body upon being summoned. So no, she will kill you first.
Fate romcom when
>>286154148...Isn't Shirou's body being used by Ruler in Apocrypha? Man, the Apocrypha anime really didn't explain anything now that I think about it
>>286154464Shirou isn't using anyone's body, you can see him before he got the tan in the anime.
>>286154464What?Shirou is a normal guy in Apo since the Fuyuki Fire didn't happen.The Shirou in Apo is a genuine historical figure.
>>286154464NoAmakusa SHirou is a fully incarnated servant because of the grail, Amakusa Shirou is just a real historical figure, he's not Shirou at all.He was a false Christian priest from japan who lead a revolt against the japanese crown, but was executed for it. Ultimately he's considered a false priest because he considered himself another jesus and said he could do miracles, which the church didn't exactly see favorably. He was never cannonized as a saint, he doesn't qualify for ruler class, he had to be cheated into that class by the Einzebern's.He was summoned during the 3rd warHe's called Shirou Kotomine at first purely as a bait and tease, in reality his identity was always Amakusa Shirou.The last name Kotomine is just because he spent the time between wars with the Kotomine family.He quite literally has nothing to do with Emiya ShirouIn Apoc world Emiya Shirou grows up to be a normalfag due to no great Fuyuki Fire.
>>286154596>>286154632I just assumed that he needed a host like Jeanne because he's also a Ruler, and that it was that timeline's Shirou
>>286154049but would she reveal her skin if I asked nicely? or is that haram?
>>286154677Jeanne only needed a host because the Ruler slot in the war was already taken by Amakusa, who refused to stop being incarnated as a servant. He wouldn't hand back over the ruler vessel. So Jeanne had to find an alternate way to be summoned.
>>286154677Shirou who was somehow the same age for the last 60+ years, and who took part in a war before he was born
>>286154756Was it explained why Jeanne's vessel looked exactly like her when she was alive?
>>286154464No, Japanese Ruler is a different historical guy named Shirou. There is nothing really confusing about Apocrypha standalone. Maybe you can say the continuity is messed up between Fate but routes or whatever.
>>286154787Because you can only incarnate into a vessel that basically matches you. That's the rule of pseudo servants.There's bound to be someone that matches you in any era. Since Apoc Jeanne had a physical body she basically had to hitchhike all the way to Romania for the war, since her vessel did not live near Romania.
>>286154782...well, he could have changed host idk
>>286154840He never had a host
>>286154464You can basically assume Rin, Sakura, Shirou, and all the other characters like that don't exist in Apocrypha. Or if they do exist their lives are so different that they may as well be entirely different people with different names.
>>286154653>Ultimately he's considered a false priest because he considered himself another jesus and said he could do miracles, which the church didn't exactly see favorably. He was never cannonized as a saint, he doesn't qualify for ruler class, he had to be cheated into that class by the Einzebern's.You're mixing in real world stuff with Fate lore, anon.He actually does qualify for the Ruler class as he's the closest to a Saint in the East. The Einzberns wanted an Asian Saint for the Fame Boost(?)He had no wish prior to incarnating and travelling the world so the not qualified to be Ruler thing makes no sense.
>>286148851check out right wing twitter.
>>286154278To be fair, I would kill Jester too>>286154714Depends how serious the relationship is
>>286155135>That one neonazi who became a methed up homo in prison and decided to go full gay into degrading sexThat day was a fucking RIDE on twitter
>>286154993>He actually does qualify for the Ruler class as he's the closest to a Saint in the East. The Einzberns wanted an Asian Saint for the Fame Boost(?)Read ApocyphaRead his interlude in FGOThey don't say it in the anime much, but in the novel they point out very clearly he's a fake priest who was cheated into the class through foul play. He says himself normally he would only qualify as a third rate caster, and that he shouldn't be summoned as Ruler. The miracles he performed in life were simply magecraft, that he didn't realize until he was dead that he was a fraud. He laments himself that he's a fraud, but at the same time his feelings are real, which is something he won't compromise on. >Amakusa Shirou Tokisada was summoned as a Ruler-class Servant. He was the best candidate for sainthood as one could be in the Far East, but this has never been officially recognized. Amakusa Shirou was made to become a Ruler by foul play, his summoning in the Third Holy Grail War fooling the system into thinking he was qualified. If there wasn't the case of the Human Order Incineration Protocol, the chances of summoning him would be very low. As a Servant, he would be third-rate if he weren't Ruler. Shirou was neither outstanding in combat nor proficient in magecraft and may only barely qualify as a Caster-class Servant, but survived and won the Third Holy Grail War nonetheless. He is more of a spellcaster than a magus.
>>286155135Or any part of tumblr. Or your house.
Chiron's NP was SEVERELY underused in Apocrypha. Assuming it can shot from literally anywhere as long as the constelation is in the sky, it sounds pretty OP
>>286148100slavic cutie
I summon a black armoured berserkerARTHUUUUR, mr. Bond
>all this apoc talk>nobody posted the only good apoc character yet
>>286155284>The Heroic Spirit they chose to summon as Ruler would be a figure whom had been as close to a ‘Saint’ as you could possibly find in the Far East, where the war would take place; at the same time, the sainthood of this tragic youth had never been recognized. His name was Amakusa Shirou Tokisada.This is from the LN.>He was the best candidate for sainthood as one could be in the Far East, but this has never been officially recognized. Amakusa Shirou was made to become a Ruler by foul play, his summoning in the Third Holy Grail War fooling the system into thinking he was qualified.The HGW Ruler qualification is being a Saint. Amakusa isn't canonized and wasn't recognized as one by the Church but the ToH does.>FGO Amakusa calls himself a fake Saint in FGO because his life ended in tragedy and he couldn't save anyone.>The miracles he performed in life were simply magecraft, that he didn't realize until he was dead that he was a fraud.He knew it was Magecraft. His advisor is the one bullshiting his followers and saying he was performing "miracles".
>>286155532Hey.There were two good apoc characters.
I actually like Mordred a lot
>>286155532>>286155664I liked Fiore
>>286155664My bad bro, her master was also cool, they were a great duo
Reminder only Ishtar's degree of rejection to the Human Order was compared to DAAs, not her scale or overall destructive power. >Jester meant this in the sense that they’re both non-humans. He was fully aware that the godly presence occupying the temple before him was leagues more noxiously rejecting of Human Order than he was.>Only Ancestors would be able to compete on an even level with this!Same for her Authority to charm inanimate objects:>“Are you telling me you charmed every last grain of this gunpowder?”>For a Dead Apostle to pull off a feat like that, they’d need to be on a level much above Jester’s own. Specifically, the level named Ancestor.It's a qualitative trait not indicative of raw power. Since Divine Authorities in general are described as broken, and they are all more esoteric than merely something that can be converted to numbers. Which is why Jester was so impressed. Although there are also levels among Authorities since Gilgamesh called Ereshkigal mid-level in terms of Authority, they're all broken and unique, some even violating the laws of the world. Unless it's a niché Authority like Dumuzid's authority over sheep.Just like Event Storage is stated to be on par with the Authorities of Divine Spirits.Or Kiara who is stated to have reached that level after absorbing the Moon Cell.Or Zagreus with his Authority that allowed him to change his body into any creature. He changed his arm into an octopus-like creature with dozens of Mystic Eyes noble colors and above. It would be wrong to say Zagreus Authority is weaker or stronger than Ishtar's Charm Authority, they're different. Ishtar herself is nowhere near the strength of a DAA. Fate Van Fem despite being nerfed to shit compared to FSF/TsukiR can probably take her. Since a single one of his golems can output more energy than Rhongo with a single punch, and he has six of them. Despite Fate Fem not being able to change the world's texture or denying the laws of the world.
I like Jeanne cause she's cute
>>286155704>servant spergs out and threatens to kill him over small talk>he earnestly apologizes and wants to get alongBone daddy was the antithesis of a dickass magus.
My fav charas in Apo were Achilles and Mordred's master.
I've always thought that Apo, even Sieg, would've been better received if it hadn't killed its main gimmick before the story even started
Ngl, even if Apoc Mordred is cute I kinda miss her original design.
>>286154430Not soon enough
>>286155862Morded is better with different hair and more personality in her face, but I like that armor design much more. Her canon armor is way overdesigned. Unrelated but I also don't like how she dresses like a streetwalker whenever the armor is off.
Holy moged...
>>286156012>Carnival Phantasm returns>It's literally just FGOWhat a waste
>>286155736I think it depends on what Ishtar incarnates into. She's conceptually on a similar level as a DAA but an Einzberns homunculus that wasn't produced to end a big titty mana machine like Iris or Illya won't allow her the same levels of bullshit. If Ishtar incarnates into Sakura or a Sakura like creature she'd easily be DAA level. Most DAAs are already hopping on some form of near infinite mana
>>286156034Grand Carnival was the perfect example of how hard Fate swallowed Typemoon.
>>286154653>>286154792>>286154915Okay guys, I get it. The Kotomine Shirou stuff was just bait and they're not related. Now could any of you Apocrypha experts answer my original question about why the hell is the lesser grail never ever mentioned in Apocrypha? Surely there must be somene here who knows this basic plot point too?????
>>286156037You mean if she incarnated into Sakura connected to the Grail? Maybe. Ishtar lacks mana resiliency compared to DAAs. She'd probably die if she takes a fatal blow. A Xian like Wuzhiki that's comparable to a God can regenerate from a single drop of blood and she is nowhere near DAAs level.
>>286156079The 3rd Grail War still happens in Apocrypha so the lesser grail is destroyed in the 3rd.
I want another Grand Carnival (for more Nero)
There is going to be a second saber showing up.
>>286156012Nero is more beautiful than the goddess of beauty herself.
>Carnival Phantasm 3>Sigma and Zealot end up sharing a table with Sieg and Jeanne>Sigma and Sieg have a civil conversation while Zealot and Jeanne get into a religious fight in the background
>>286156124That's fair, yeah. DAAs have a lot of other bullshit too
Shameless...
>solos the entire nasuverse
>>286156012rin/ishtar/eresh is way cuter imo, and i really like morii's art stylestill not playing fgo though
>>286156410Ereshkigal is alright
>>286156136Okay, yes, I did see one of the Einzbern Homunculus dying (Shirou's master I assume?). HOWEVER how were the Yggdmillennia planning to use the grail if there's currently no lesser grail to absorb the servants' souls and function as an energy core? Although apparently Shirou was able to activate Heaven's Feel with his body alone so idk, if this is truly never explained anywhere, not even in the light novel, then it's definitely a weird plot hole that should have been at least addressed. I mean, the lesser grail is such a huge plot point in the original story...
>>286156489They just used an alternate system, the greater grail itself and tons of mana. Yggdmillennia couldn't make a lesser so they were just hacking the greater to make it work instead.
>>286156489Cute Mordred art
>>286156228>Narita workI unironically expect a second saber to show up at the last second.
>>286156707>It's Gray
>>286152288>a power Caster only has because circumstances I can't explain hereYou can find the answer by locking up the in-universe parent of Prelati in the Type Moon wiki.The quick answer is Prelati is ANOTHER demigod. And the deity they were born from is the origin of the power.
>>286156707Charlie....
>>286152936All cavalry classes are there to job and sabotage the mages not using the knight classes, which were intended to be summoned by mages from the three founding families.
>>286156228>>286156707Dread it, run from it, Nero arrives all the same
>>286155702I wanted to re-break her pelvis so much
>>286152936Worked with Kojiro
>>286152936not at all, King Hassan is just so strong that all of his genuine assassination skills have corroded because he *doesn't need them*, it's more efficient for him to just directly attack his targets with brute force because when you're a Grand, you don't really need to bother using your specialties on fodder. He gets serious when it comes to assassinating Tiamat however and uses every skill as an assassin he possesses (disguise, infiltration, sneak attack). He's meant to be our first look at what a Grand is really capable of, a hero so immensely powerful that they can just steamroll even a super-juiced up Servant like Gawain was in Camelot
>>286156707Richard's wish will be to meet Artoria.
>>286156909Kojiro is basically Saber
>>286155782I give Apoc credit for making actual magical weaponry and doing it with necromancy while avoiding all the usual bone weapon shit. Homing finger shells and poison gas heart grenades is great.
>>286156934>Richard wishes to meet Artoria, meets Nero insteadAbsolute cinema
>>286156707Richard is both Sabers in this war. The narrative has been about as subtle as a brick that Richard isn't really Richard or at least not *JUST* Richard, and there's most likely something super sinister going on beneath the surface similar to Flat.
>>286156934Richard's wish is to use the Grail as a giant Karaoke machine to sing a song of humanity that reaches Saber
>>286143943Absolute sexo
>>286156940Yeah that's what i meant, the first Assassin we saw was actually a Saber.
I got this couple of weeks ago and wanted to show it to my 4chan friends :D
>>286157068Very nice.
>>286157068Have fun
>>286143943is that jannu?
>>286156986>He's so delusional he wants to waste his wish on singing about his obsession towards SeibahOh my god... he's so fucking BASED
>>286157068post hand
>>286156956Fate has always been kind of good about this shit ngl>Rin's Gem grenades and gem machine gun>Illya's kamikaze hair birds>Shirou/Garcher throwing swordsWe rarely see a lot of standard wizardry
gyarudako
>>286156934>Richard's wish will be to meet Artoria.What would Artoria think of Richard if she met him?
>>286157286>Illya's kamikaze hair birdsNot canon
>>286157420They're just familiars. I don't see why they couldn't be canon. Especially, when Irisviel used a similar type of magic back in Fate/Zero.
>>286157453Illya is not a combat type and they only existed in the UBW anime so people who started with Zero could go "ZOMG JUST LIKE IRI"
>>286148183>>286148678>>286148846Okay Nerofag, defend THIS
>>286157257>Oh my god... he's so fucking BASEDHe apparently was so happy with his life that he is just content. Obviously his real life was NOT perfect, but he was able to realise that happiness comes from within. Richard lived his life and didn't have anything to complain about. I mean he was a king, he knew there are people much worse off than him everywhere. Imagine a king complaining that he is unhappy while the peasants are dying.
>>286156725But Narita said this is limited to the FSF timeline only. So does that mean Prelati's origin is different outside FSF?
>>286157510>Illya is not a combat type Familiars are basically summons that never disappear. Summoners generally aren't seen as combat mages because your summon is doing the fighting for you. And while Illya doesn't use familiar based magic in the VN, it's not implausible or impossible for her to use it.
>>286157453Every single one of Irisviel's magic circuits is custom crafted to serve as a Master. That's why her command spell covers her entire body head to toe.
>>286157614 (me)I meant Illyasviel, you know I meant that obviously, bah.
>>286157514Nero the type of girl to force you to mana transfer even when her mana pool is full
>>286142276Is that the MC
>>286157514
>>286157510Nasu didn't say anything about the anime being non-canon. In fact he talks about Illya's fighting skills using the anime as basis:>Q: In the anime, there is a fight scene between Rin and Ilya, but are there any mages who could even win against Ilya in a magic fight in the actual 「Fate/stay night」, 「Fate/Zero」, or 「Fate/hollow ataraxia」 games?>Nasu: Frankly, she is the top mage in Fuyuki. Still, first-class mages would follow the "since she's a child of nature, just cut her off from the land first" plan, so it's not like she's invincible. Kayneth and Tokiomi may be able to best her in a magic duel. Rin is just relentless. But if we're talking about the dark girl who contaminates the land itself...>Takeuchi: ...Sakura's magecraft skills are really fit for a boss, aren't they.
>>286157514She is just very active
Is this not crazy?
>>286157602>But Narita said this is limited to the FSF timeline only. So does that mean Prelati's origin is different outside FSF?It's just to give the author freedom to do what he wants. Prelati doesn't have any appearances outside of StrangeFake so far.Don't be surprised if this anime get really popular that the universe get folded back into main canon again. Or just give it its own timeline that allow interactions.
Nero just seems like nasu's way of making a waifufag saber
>>286157602Probably more that Ate is more powerful in F/SF than other worlds. It's a world of error and madness, after all. The divergence that Ate's might is far higher here would make sense.
>>286157562>Fucked whoever he wanted>Used his title and country to fund his wars>Ignored any responsibility while rulingHonestly, he really just lived in the moment. That has a certain based quality in itself, even with the Arthur fanboyism
>>286157873
>>286157510>>286157757>Illya is the top mage of Fuyuki>Even above fucking Zouken>The only comparable one is Sakura (who's got a cheat element and infinite mana hacks)Mind you, both Kayneth and Tokiomi have 20 years on Illya
How does having a slut for a servant helps you win a holy war?
>>286157266Just for you
Enough with the Nero posting you faggots, seriously.
>>286157983I'm not complaining about it...>>286158139Reminds me of the sumischizo from persona threads, and I've decided not to let one spammer ruin my enjoyment of a character.
>>286158094Morale boost
>>286157402She will reprimand him for not being in Britain at all as his King but will really like him as a person.
>>286158178Whose morale?She's supposed to be the one doing the fighting
>>286158094It doesn't. That's why everyone else lost. One non-slut servants win.
>>286158139just report it for avatarfagging
>>286146878Its hilarious and a great moment. Bitch deserved it.
>>286158254She can do both, but if you summoned her then the chances are high you would not get any fighting done
>>286147730https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrC3HWwCDUA classic.
>>286157402>>286158232>didn't give a shit about england in life>spent all of his time on the mainland or crusading>didn't speak english (arthur didn't either lmao)>bankrupted his kingdom in a ransom on the way back from crusading>after turning the angevin empire into a shitshow, his successor was arguably the worst king in english history
god this thread reeks of /vg/ make your own thread, retards.
>>286157298Her belly button here really bothers me.
>>286157402>Absurdist vs. Nihilist
>>286155532Mordred would be my servant of choice if i was stuck in a holy warhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_UDX4S-r4U
>>286158502>These two get to die together like brosThe best part of Apo
>>286158254Get yourself a servant who can do both, fucking and fighting. Preferably a nymphomaniac Saber.
>>286157678Yes, does she excite you?
>>286158654She looks like she serves a bunch of old men
ayaka is too screenshotable
Ayaka is too sexeable
I like worms
>>286150321She asks Guda if she looks Okinawan
>>286158691
WAGA NA WA RICHAADO
>>286158892I really like his NP chant. Cool as fuck.
>>286158892That's what I say every time I see a white girl in distress.
>>286158641all servants can fuck anon, that's what command spells are for
>>286158966Imagine wasting a command spell when Nero immediately gets naked on her own 5 minutes after being summoned
>>286158966But would you really waste a command spell on something like that? That might come back and bite you in the ass later.
>>286158892>>286158935AVALONIANVALONIAN
>>286151254Here's my top three
Behold my glory...Hear the thunderous applause...Sit down and praise... My Golden Theater!Kingdom of Heaven and Hell...My heaven, reconstructed! This is where the limelight shines!Behold the supreme beauty... and praise it!
>>286159010Nympho servants for each class?
>>286147843It kinda made sense for his lostbelt self, but not anything else. In FGO it should have been a single ascension with more Odyssey-period design for the other ones.
>>286148418What is the demographic of Sigma and Zealot shippers?
>>286158768Zouken!?
>>286150831One of those Sakura buttons that triggers the BB channel
>>286159181Saber - NeroArcher - Chloe, Anne & Mary Rider - Medb Caster - Tamamo Lancer/Berserker - Kiyohime Assassin - Kama
>>286155929I think her armor looks super cool
>>286159458And obviously Kiara. For the men Fergus, Douman and Cu i guess.
This was extremely, EXTREMELY boring. And doesn't deserve to get referenced in every single Fate spin-off. There. I said it
>>286156910>King Hassan is not actually a Saber in disguise... he's a Saber in disguise!
>>286158132Fuck I wish I had those servant cards, they look so cool.
Pure servant in each class?
>>286158502Practically speaking I'd go with Medea and we'd just run off to geek out over shit together. I'm sure she can figure some way to support herself without the grail and she can give me a masterclass education as a mage. That said moedred is way better for a road trip.
>>286158966>He can't Rizz up his own servantCome on anon...
>>286159614iirc the 1st set of arcs is just a setup for the 2nd set of arcs or something like that
>>286159752I've always wondered, yeah winning the grail is cool and all but what's stopping you from just running away until everyone else is dead with your Caster-given army?
You could probably bang Semiramis, but that would result in death.
>>286159862well, most casters aren't as powerful as Solomon and even Medea is fairly weak when she's caught off guard. Plus most people want to actively win the grail. But if we're going by Nasuverse rules (the underdog always wins) the best way to win is to be as obviously weak as possible to pass beneath notice until you can leverage your incredibly niche advantage into victory over an impossibly stronger foe.
>>286156410eresh is one of the most butchered myths in fate, even accounting for abortions like medusa
>>286159614Girls love it and paid for it, so as far as I'm concerned they can stay in their corner
In my dreams I catch your eyeAnd It’s strange to see it shineI strum my guitar beside the seaAnd I pray for your light to guide meCouldn't betray you if I triedDreamt that I’ve stayed there by your sideNow when I see the setting sunI picture you there in AvalonIn this garden of disgraceI can still remember the tasteThey call me the lion and now I’m roaringSo many have died by this swordCouldn't betray you if I triedDreamt that I’ve stayed there by your sideNow when I see the setting sunI picture you there in AvalonI’ll die defending your gloryYour chivalry’s not a storyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffE1-RTTpTEA true Artoria fanboy writes songs and performs them for her.
>>286160120>servants look nothing like their art depictions, even in universe.what causes this phenomenon?
Don't kid yourself, don't kid yourself.She gets worse
>>286160156Saber was a liar. Iskandar had a body double.
>>286160156Some more or less do, but they're the minority. Even the ones that have pictures often don't. The only logical assumption is getting copied to from the throne opens up the character creation menu
>>286160366How many times would you have to call her "Hippo" to flip her genocidal madness switch?
>>286160120>Richard wants to look like a pretty boy rockstar>Da Vinci wants to look like the Mona Lisa>Dumas wants to have fucked up teeth>Qin Shi Huang wants to look like a mothmanIt's like designing your character in an rpg, you wouldn't go for how you actually look unless you're boring
>>286156228That "Saber" will be Gray, and she will one shot everyone because everything has to go her way. Totally not a Mary Sue btw
>>286159140Impeccable taste.
Does Jeanne offer anything of value besides being cute? she seems super boring.
>>286160609A chance for Nasu to talk to his idol Sakamoto Maaya
>>286160609She's a little psycho, but not in immediately obvious ways
>>286150679That's his comedic joke like le Seiba is hungry.
>>286160156They all wish to be the little girl.
>>286156934He changes his mind.
>>286160609Being cute isn't enough?
>>286160609>doesn't really consider herself a saint>Fate version is heavily heavily toned down compared to the actual Jeanne, who mocked the English during her trial calling them out the entire time, and when the french army tried visiting whores she beat the whores out of the army with the flat of her sword calling them sluts>She's very resolute, when they talk about how to infiltrate the Black base she just talks about orbital striking it>She would be great if she retained the characterization of volume 1 Jeanne in the novels>She ultimately failed because they tried turning her into Saber lite, which made her boring, because Saber is fucking boring and Saber's romance is fucking boring, even urobuchi calls it out. You shouldn't try to mimic the worst romance route in FSN, its a recipe for disaster>In FGO she becomes obsessed with being an older sister, often mind controlling people to see her as an older sister>Has a pet shark>FGO tries to make her a little more interesting which sometimes works>The whole jeanne alter thingHonestly at this point I think FGO game her more characterization than Apocrypha ever didReal Tures Realta manga.Art is shit but it does halfway alright with the story
>>286156967>People still not understanding RichardHe's just Richard but his problem is that he's not from the age of myth and despite getting canonized in some heroic tales the real guy killed an unbelievable amount of people and it was all put down as historical fact. The subtle as a brickness is the fact that his golden retriever good boy act is just an act.Artoria and the other Mythic sabers didn't do shit like personally sacking multiple cities in the span of a few months killing anyone that got in their way.
>>286152327>Gil has clairvoyance on par with Solomon and MerlinI wonder if Avalon defense interfere with his clairvoyance.He seems genuinely shock that Saber pull that shit out of nowhere.
>>286160366>Hey baby, how about i put my xyston in your pithos?
>>286160156>>286160773>Throne of Heroes lets you customize your avatar so that you can be a chuuniBased Alaya?
>>286160944Alaya knows what sells.
>>286160852>Honestly at this point I think FGO game her more characterization than Apocrypha ever didI think that applies to almost all Apo characters, Higashide seems to regret failing to juggle the cast then so he tried to expand on them wherever he could.
>>286160863>All the Hassans are psychotic killers>Gilgamesh was one of those guys>Cu Chulainn was a high-T manslut
>>286160970>Golem manyes>Siegfriedyes>Jeanneyes>Achilles most likely>Chironyeah probably>Astolfodon't care>SiegFGO event made him oddly less hatable>FrankensteinShe didn't really have a character in Apoc, in FGO at least they gave her an alt that could talk normalApocrypha event in FGO is basically Higashide apologizing for certain characterizations within Apocrypha.
>>286160878Archer Gil almost never uses his Clairvoyance because it sucks the fun out of everything
