Evangelion is absolute bullshit. I don't know if the anime genre is like this as a whole, but the writing seems like contrived nonsensical emotionalism equivalent to capeshit where you know the ending before you even watch it. And from what I've gathered looking on the internet so far is that only pretentious retarded faggots think this pretentious cluserfuck is actually good cinema. Is all anime like this? Was this simply a terrible way for me to be introduced to what is effectively Japanese cartoons? Was I being a fool expecting it to be something on the level of live-action television or film?Maybe one of you weeaboo faggots can explain what's going on here better, or maybe you won't.
>>286150058Watch Boku no Pico
i'm sorry that happened to you
2deep4u
if you went in blind watching the dogshit rebuilds first, then you got what you fucking deserve.
>>286150093I see a lot of people making jokes in response to "what is this from" question with this. What is it about? Does it actually have a coherent story unlike this?
>>286150058Eva is for emo teenagers anonWhat kind of TV, vidya, whtv do you like?Assuming this isn't ragebait
>>286150178it's a modern-day Greek tragedy about a young boy getting utterly fucked in life
>>286150058You're like 3 whole decades late to complain. Sorry you were born so late in the game.
>>286150164Wherever I'd go people would just called them the Evangelion movies, the show had "Evangelion" as the main title too, so did the movies. But why would this matter? I imagine most would go in blind watching the whole series from start to finish in about a week's time. But these movies look like they don't have any prerequisites to watch them and follow along what is going on.
>>286150327watched the rebuilds first
>>286150327you are very intelligent
>>286150327>But why would this matter?because the rebuilds are complete trash made by an out-of-touch director who always hated his own creation, where the characters are all soulless husks barely wearing the skins of their previous incarnations.I'm sorry you got conned, but hey, at least you didn't suffer from being emotionally invested in the series unlike the fans.
>>286150058>you know the ending before you even watch it.if you think eva is pretentious you are retarded, its a character study with a good and unexpected ending
>rebuild threadSummoning Kensukefag
>>286150247What kind of a statement is that supposed to be? Were someone's 80 year old grandparents who don't watch cartoons also born late in the game?
>>286150425>its a character studyAh yes, the character study of flashing boobs and butts into the shot while our star fatherless protagonist goes around like a relapsing drug addict who occasionally turns into a wanna-be pseudogod or something. What are we "studying" here exactly, the kind of personality disorders I get to see around me every single day for decades? This is not fortune telling, it's just saying what's happening right now. I don't hate the protagonist but this reeks of "woe is me" self-inserting in some moments. Though a lot of the other characters are way, way worse.>with a good and unexpected endingAh yes, the part where he metaphorically offs himself or goes into school shooter mode, or gains magical powers to flip the script, start breaking the fourth wall, and go "fuck it, alternate universe/multiverse/magic reset button" and probably fucks off to wagecuck it in a dog leash afterwards with some chronically horny whore. What a good an unexpected ending indeed, I bet half of this stuff is totally original and deep. Adding in visual references to 2001 or Rosemary's baby doesn't make you deep or cinematic on its own, though whoever did that had good taste I will admit. But it's clearly using visuals to obfuscate unfocused cliche writing more and more as time goes on, and at some point they just give up on making more subtle and nuanced visuals like in the old ones and just go with weightless copy and paste CGI garbage.Oh yeah, why do they just let all the mass murdering war criminals walk away in the end with no punishment after initially looking like they got their comeuppance? Japan thing or what?
>>286150374Nobody specified that, shitposter.
>>286150058>Maybe one of you weeaboo faggots can explain what's going on here better, or maybe you won't.Dude, rebuilds are different than the og. The og series is simple and universal in its sentimental approach. Go watch the og series and then EoE. So sad that your first experience had to be rebuilds though.If you think the og series has nonsensical emotionalism too, then the issue is with you. It's something everyone likes
>>286150058Go fucking watch it you little critin, a thread died for your bull shit whining
>>286150566>Ah yes, the character study of flashing boobs and butts into the shot while our star fatherless protagonist goes around like a relapsing drug addict who occasionally turns into a wanna-be pseudogod or something
>>286150652Care to repeat that in English?
>>286150058Watch Nadia.
>>286150663Go watch the og series, and stop your bitching about the remakes. It's been universal knowledge that the remakes are a different story entirely, your way late to the series.
>>286150688>watch the og seriesWhat makes you think I didn't? Clearly one is more popular and actively referenced than the other though by the looks of it, indicating some kind of actualization. >the remakes are a different story entirelySo are they a remake, sequel, reboot, reimagining, retelling? What is the distinction here? Why do they make a corny "look how self-aware we suddenly have become, we're so creative and original aren't we?" reference to the show in the last one?
>>286150784>So are they a remake, sequel, reboot, reimagining, retelling?The first film is the same as the original series. Then they diverge. It's technically a sequel, but the story is mostly different and much much worse. Although I like rebuild 3 more than anything else in the same series, since I only really care about Kaworu and nobody else.> Why do they make a corny "look how self-aware we suddenly have become, we're so creative and original aren't we?" reference to the show in the last one?It's the fate of every soulless work of art. Bland meta references, etc.
Eva is shit and will never compare to true masterpieces like Girls Bravo and Cosprayers. It's literally normie's first anime.
>>286150680>directed by the same producer as thisIs that why both have a girl with an impossible phenotype?
>>286150058>I don't know if the anime genre>anime genreStopped reading there, go back to r*ddit or instagram or whatever place you came from
>>286150943>minor spelling mistake? AHH Asperger.
>>286150327You might actually be the smartest person on 4chan. Possibly the entire world. The mind of a generation!
>>286150058The original and EOE is good.The Rebuild series and other spinoffs are what's garbage.
>>286150058You genuinely didn't understand it.
>>286150327Because these films are a retelling of the original story that exist to reflect on the events of the original, which aired on Japanese television 30 years ago.They're not standalone films and many people who still hold strong emotional attachment to the original don't understand these films.Neither do you, but you're not expected to.
Eva was pretty fresh for it's time, I wouldn't call it cliche. I rewatched it recently and it was well "shot' and felt like a slow burn kino outside of the action sequences.I need to watch the rebuilds to build an opinion on those but the original series with the original ending was pretty good. Shinji was a good representation of an early teen with severe father issues coming into terms with his sexual maturity and navigating the social and familial pressures in life. The unasked for responsibility thrust upon him would break any pubescent individual.Asuka, Rei and Misato are still iconic and are well designed even in a modern lens.The instrumentality ending actually hit me hard on this rewatch, since I understand a lot of the themes as I have significantly more life experience compared to when I watch it 2 decades ago. I relate and resonate to the "freedom" "relating with others" "selfishness and living for oneself" beats way better as 30+ yo unc. It's funny how much just went over my head as a teenager.good anime
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>>286151024>a retelling of the original story that exist to reflect on the events of the originalLol? That sounds like absolute bullshit gobbledygook corpo-speak. Reflect on the events of the original how? >which aired on Japanese television 30 years agoPretty sure it aired in other countries too, but okay.>They're not standalone films ,,,Huh? I thought you just said it was a retelling?
>>286151007>You genuinely didn't understand it.If this is the only defense someone has for a piece of fiction, then chances are it's actually not very difficult to understand it. Most of the time the presentation is just such a clusterfuck that nobody can understand it without going over it a few times like some puzzle, and then going behind the scenes, and then realizing "oh it's actually way simpler than I could have possibly imagined" it most likely is just obfuscating and is trying to sound smart.This is the film equivalent of saying "you are obsessed with me" in retort to an argument.
>>286151117Rei > Asukaasuka a shit and so are everyone that likes that dumb rancid whore
>>286151196Your retort is the exact sort of nonsense people people who didn't understand something would come up with to convince themselves that there wasn't anything to miss.
>>286151206>year of our lord 2026>still has pleb taste
>>286150998I found a big spinoff comic and it's literally just porn half of the time, so suddenly the content of the movies doesn't surprise me.
>>286151117Wouldn't Rei be the depressed one here?Shikinami and rebuild Shinji knew each other for like a week
>>286151321>Shikinami and rebuild Shinji knew each other for like a weekAnd that busty elder Mary Illustrious girl who doesn't seem to age knew him for like what, less than half an hour?
>>286150058Personally i just watched it for the religious symbolisim and lore the story was shinji being punished by everyone unfairly And it's written in a way that shinji deserves it or something
>>286150058>contrived nonsensical emotionalism equivalent to capeshit where you know the ending before you even watch itYou mean like Dostoevsky?
>>286151321Rei doesn't need validation to exist. Rei simply wants Shinji to be happy.>Shikinami and rebuild Shinji knew each other for like a weekAnd then she spent 14 years obsessing and building up resentment over not getting any validation.
>>286151250Which one? I've never seen an official Evangelion porn spin off
>>286150058True. Lain is better
>>286150058The last two rebuild films killed the franchise the way the sequel trilogy killed star wars.
>>286151722So why does the studio keep doubling down on it like it's the only thing that exists?
>>286151722Filtered by the master. The rebuilds perfected all the elements of the original series.
>>286151782what?literally none of the elements people liked about the original are present in rebuildthe characterization is weak or nonexistent, the character drama is forced, the metanarrative insists upon itself
>>286151851There are more fights and the girls are more sexualized. Those are the things people liked about the original and the Rebuilds improved on them.
>>286151878i think you should kill yourself
>>286151141>,,,Huh? I thought you just said it was a retelling?They're sequels disguised as a reboot..
>>2861517822.0 is the pinnacle of evangelion as a whole.
>>286151736>So why does the studio keep doubling down on it like it's the only thing that exists?Zoomers wanted to see it in the theaters so they thought it was easy money.
>>286152096>They're sequels disguised as a reboot..That's completely idiotic, it's clearly the other way around. They're non-sequels.
>>286152293>That's completely idiotic, it's clearly the other way around. They're non-sequels.Have you seen both series?
>>286150058Anime simply does not and cannot compare to mediums like music, film and literature, for a multitude of reasons, and it will never be a respected art form in any way, shape or form unlike the aforementioned mediums. Even rap music is a more respected art form to partake than anime, and that should tell you something about anime as a medium.There are only a few anime that can hold their own against the gross entirety of compelling and meaningful films from the likes of say Tarkovsky, Bergman, Tarr, Fellini and Bresson like Otomo, Oshii and Kon.But even then, any comparisons immediately fail, as the whole of the medium (anime) taints the few decent or good outliers, and still yet, Otomo, Oshii and Kon are the exception, not the rule.
I LOVE ASUKA AND ASUKA LOVES ME!
>>286152318What part of the original series story do the movies directly continue? The answer is obvious, they don't. So they are not sequels. The story does not require knowledge of previous works to be understood. The plot does not continue from a predecessor and often features new characters. It is not a direct follow-up, prequel, or immediate continuation of an established storyline. So why are would people mind trick themselves into thinking it is a sequel?
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>>286152361>asuka jumpscare
>>286152352Isn't it actually worse than this picture shows and that it manages to copy even more western stuff? I also remember some pictures just showing nothing but Japanese knock offs of western brands from the early 20th century. And then they have the nerve to say how foreigners just don't get it or that they are not the target audience...
>>286152388You're retarded. The rebuilds are 10x better if you watch them after the originals rather than on their own, and they are technically a continuation, therefore they are sequels
>>286152402I think the childish aura of this post proves his point pretty elegantly.
>>286152445>and they are technically a continuation, therefore they are sequelsHoly shit. You call someone else retarded before literally making a leap in logic along the lines of "uhh actually, I imagined it to be a sequel in my head, therefore it is". I don't think you can be trusted to judge someone else as a retard here.
>>286152478The last rebuild film confirmed the continuation theory. The rebuilds were taking place in a universe that occurred after the one of the original series. Are multiple people trolling here?
>>286151782Was it really necessary to completely destroy Shinji's relationships with a fourteen year time skip, and then not give him any significant screentime with the other characters to rebuild those relatonships?
>>286152547the irony of the rebuilds not rebuilding shit
>>286152544>The rebuilds were taking place in a universe that occurred after the one of the original series.Does nobody see the problem with that statement?
>>286152547Yes. All the eva units got new cool designs and weapons during the timeskip. That's all people care about
>>286152571>look inside "rebuild" of evangelion>she was created to destroy evangelionThe words of a liar should always be read in their opposite meaning.
>>286152604The universe reboots three times in the Evangelion universe. The manga -> the original series -> the rebuilds.In terms of storytelling, the rebuilds rely on you having attachment to the original series. If that's not your definition of a sequel, then sure, let's not call it a sequel, but you can't watch the rebuilds on their own. It's for after the original series.
>>286152641>>286151878Evidently not, since the only time the rebuilds are brought up anymore is to shit on them
>>286152659>The manga -> the original seriesNah, the ending of the manga leads to a world without evas and without ReiThere's no continuity between each version of evangelion
>>286152757>There's no continuity between each version of evangelionI don't remember it too well but does Kaworu not retain memories of each time? At first, he's like an alien, then he settles into his kind personality, and in the rebuilds he's more chilling.
>>286152659>The universe reboots three times in the Evangelion universe. The manga -> the original series -> the rebuildsWTF? Where was there any indication of that? Why is this necessary? >In terms of storytelling, the rebuilds rely on you having attachment to the original series. Okay, you know what? This is starting to border on FNaF-tier writing. This literally just reminds me of see making this exact same defense for that series along the lines of "you just need to dig deep into this and that lore and blah blah" like dude. All those same criticisms of their last live action movie can be applied to these Evangelion movies.>If that's not your definition of a sequel, then sureThat's literally NOT my definition of a sequel, that is the official definition of a sequel in the English language, which these movies clearly do not follow. Also...>>286152544>continuation theoryThis is also a problematic statement. Isn't this basically the equivalent of trying to follow lore that was made up by fan theories trying to make sense of how every movie is totally different from the last?
>>286152794>WTF? Where was there any indication of that? Why is this necessary?Did you not watch the original series? All of this was literally explicitly said in the last rebuild film.
>>286152826The question of whether someone has watched the original show or read any of the comics or anything else before going into these movies should literally not be relevant precisely because the bloody Wikipedia article describes it as a reboot. So it's literally okay, because these movies by definition take place in an alternate universe/timeline or whatever, so IN FACT it should be okay precisely for that reason you just described. It's better to go into a show or movie series blind so you can stay ignorant and judge them for what they are without any preconceived bias. >but the evangelion movies are made for fans of the original series from 30 years ago!Movies should be made for fans of movies, and defending their issues with "but that's how something was in the original series" (it wasn't in this case) isn't giving anyone a good impression of either the original series or this one, now is it? Especially with>all of this was explicitly said in the last movies because we decided to show stuff from the originalNow you're basically implying that the writers lack talent or dignity by consciously using old fans or fanservice as a safety net and alienating others. What if someone wants to get into the series and watches these movies first? Is it too much to ask for being thoughtful of your core audience while also giving well written stories and characters to breathe life into that world? Nobody in anime fandom seems to want to even consider the question, because they almost seem incapable of it from what I've seen. They view writing in anime as its own little bubble, compared to live action movies which are judged much more harshly. It shouldn't be that way.
>>286152970>What if someone wants to get into the series and watches these movies firstThey did something retarded, yes, but it was probably to shock the viewers in the second film by taking it in a completely new direction.
At some point in the future, people will eventually come to accept that the Rebuilds are not up to par with the original because the writers will always do what they think is fun first. Anno & the lead writers don't have a need to prove themselves like back in the Gainax years, all they have to do is be sufficiently obtuse, and they can then safely add in the cool shit they want - even though it makes no sense and is outright poorly written.This is safe to do, why? The army of midwits that like Evangelion will defend it as deep, since they aren't smart enough to get either the original or the Rebuilds. They can't tell the difference between a complex structure and chaotic meaninglessness.Secondly, what Anno & the lead writers find "fun" to do, is rewriting stories so that their favorite characters get a better highlight, this being Asuka and largely Kaworu, who has since been given DBZ-tiers of powerboosts compared to the original. It's shallow and meaningless, but it's their guilty pleasure.This also works out in Anno's favor, because fans of these characters will die on every possible hill to pretend this isn't happening and that the progression is "natural".This is the root cause of ALL Evangelion suckage since the End of Evangelion.
>1.0cool>2.0some changes, but still cool>teaser for 3.0cool>delay>delay>earthquake and tsunami>delay>finally 3.0dude what the fuck>4.0what the actual fuck. I fully believe someone pissed Anno off so he decided to smoke some crack and rewrite the entire thing.
>>286153196see >>286153190Anno describes his creative process to be like masturbation. He's been edging and gooning, and with 3.0, he blew his load.The long time between 3.0 and 3.0+1.0 was merely his refractory period, and the fact that he made such a mess it couldn't be cleaned up, so he just hid it with a reset end.
>>286150058>the anime genregod tier bait, I almost fell for it myself
>>286150058>the anime genrehow does this get almost a hundred replies
>>286153770>>286153829he's obviously a /tv/ or /lit/fag that wanted to try eva and just went for the movies
>>286153242>Anno describes his creative process to be like masturbation. He's been edging and gooning, and with 3.0, he blew his load.KEK, this actually explains so much.
Giant robots are cool and teenage girls are sexy
>>286151363Be Mari expend 14 years fighting a war with angry bitch(her princess) trying to help her, may or may not have feelings for the girl. Bitch is bitching about boy she meet for a month, she would rather expend her free time outside the WUNDER in a survivalist nerd house that with you, decides to help the bitch get the the boy who is the son of your ex-best Friends. Redhead bitch fumbles it with the boy so bad that a 1 month old Clone is the one that has to help the boy get himself together, slowly realize bitch is genuily stupid, decides to help her one last time, she fumbles yet again with "i grew up before you". Bitch get eated. Now Mari is forced to beg puppy-kun to save asuka because it's clear the boy has tunnel vision on stopping Gendo at all cost and everyone around him is telling him to kill Gendo and destroy unit 13(were bitch is now trapped). Shinji actually succeeds now she has to find him and rescue him. After everything Mari says fuck it and procceeds to take Shinji because she wanted to fuck Yui-senpai and gendo-kun.
>>286150058>And from what I've gathered looking on the internet so far is that only pretentious retarded faggots think this pretentious cluserfuck is actually good cinema. It is.>Is all anime like this?Nope.>Was this simply a terrible way for me to be introduced to what is effectively Japanese cartoons?Yes.>Was I being a fool expecting it to be something on the level of live-action television or film?Most TV and movies are trash.>Maybe one of you weeaboo faggots can explain what's going on here better, or maybe you won't.Director was despressed, suicidal, and autistic, wrote Evangelion, used a lot of biblical reference because they look cool. Third parties added more lore and he was like "okay sure". Then he found a woman, became happy, and made the Rebuild movies. The director hated otaku, which were his main demographic, more than /tv/ hates fully grown consenting adult women.
>>286150178You'll definitely understand it more than Evangelion.
>>286150058>Was I being a fool expecting it to be something on the level of live-action television or film?eva is better than any west tv or movie shit and its not a top 100-150 anime, wake up unc. watch perfect blue, maybe you like that one
>>286151250>Original anime is series one>rebuild is series two>Hey OP, you're asking why we love series 1 when you watched series 2>OH YEAH? WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS SERIES 3 I FOUND HUH? CHECKMATE LOSERSIt's yet another different series you retard.
>>286154875To piggy back off of this and translate it for your normalfag self;>Hey, people seem to love Star Trek TNG. Let's see what it's about.>*Turns on Voyager*>wtf. This sucks. Why do people like this?>*finds DS9*>Is this what the series is about? This is dogshit. Now it makes sense.>Still never watches TNG
>>286154875>>286154972This isn't series one or two, those shows are the same universe. It's like comparing it to STD or JJverse.
>>286154836The lore is more interesting than the story, yet it begs the question of who wrote how much of it.
>>286154568Evangelion isn't difficult to understand. The presentation is just terrible.
>>286152699Anno didn't even have the stone to commit to the new direction he took the franchise in with 3.33.
>>286154087>2 idiots 1 angel
>>286154134>her princessWhat was with the lesbian angle going on there?
>>286150058Feels like you have zero ability to take a story sincerely and immerse yourself than acting like a detached spectator. Then again, why are treating genre fiction like literary fiction?
>>286156318Being a detatched spectator shifting between spectating and occupying the mind of every single character you flip to the perspective of is how you sincerely experience and immerse yourself into a story, you can put yourself in their shoes and state of mind whenever and wherever that is needed.
>>286150058>he watched the despised Nu-Vangelion instead of the universally beloved original series
>>286156442God, the colors in the old one looked so visceral and alive compared to the new movies.
>>286150408>because the rebuilds are complete trash made by an out-of-touch director who always hated his own creationyou can always tell who didn't watch the Rebuilds all the way through when they say shit this divorced from reality unironically
>>286156532>divorced from realityGood descriptor to summarize these movies. You can tell a boomer wrote the ending.
>>286152547>and then not give him any significant screentime with the other characters to rebuild those relatonships?easy to tell that you didn't watch 3.0+1.0
>>286151851>the character drama is forced, the metanarrative insists upon itselfyour 'critique' is meaningless nonsense, like literal retard-speak nonsense lmao
Stop replying to this faggot, it's probably just the Kensuke schizo trying to bait because he's lonely.
>>286156666Get fucked cuck
>>286156666Don't know who that is but you have repeating numbers, so you must be right.
>>286156442Looks like it's time for another rewatch. Is the stuff that came out after EoE worth watching?
>>286157007Astute observation, 007.
>>286156599Nah, most likely this is that one /m/faggot who keeps making Eva is shit threads
>>286157083Lots of great stuff, lots of weird stuff.
>>286150058Stupid ass /tv/ boomer. Go back to facebook/instagram you senile geriatric fucker. You don't belong here.
>>286150058>Evangelion is absolute bullshit>Posts Rebuilds
>>286150058>the anime genreGo watch something else.
>>286157846I'm split between OP being a troll or a genuinely clueless 50+ boomnigger. There are lot of those on /pol/ and /pol/-adjacent shitholes like /tv/. And they need to get out because they're killing this site with their decaying corpses and minds.
>>286156579They gave Shinji and Misato less than five minutes of screentime together in the final movie. The most important relationship in the entire Eva franchise, and they didn't even get a scene together to properly apologize to each other, without the literal end of days handing over their heads.And then she fucking died. And unlike EOE there's not even any hope of her coming back in instrumentality.
>>286157978Time better spend shilling his wife's insert, prease undastando.
>>286156133The parallels that they can stop pulling out of their ass. Shinji/kaworu putting dark plugsuits to Pilot Unit 13 to save the world ends up in being a trap, kaworu dies because he is an angel during a impact. Asuka/Mari both put white plug suits and Pilot units 02 and 08 to save the world, ends up being a trap, Asuka dies because she is retarded and uses angel Powers and gets used to trigger final impact.Shinji becomes very attached to Kaworu in the short time they expend together.Asuka despite living with Mari for 14 years straight with the girl taking care of her a giving her validation of the fact she is still human doesn't give a fuck about Mari, to the point her instrumentality scene were Asuka is supposed to see places and people she cares about have everything but a single refference to Mari.They tried to replicate the same sex couple success that they had with Shinji/kaworu but failed hard for some reason so they separate the girls at the end and Mari decides to keep for herself the last thing about her best friends who just immolated themselves to fix the world that Gendo destroyed.(It's implied that unlike the manga, were Mari had the hots for Yui only, this one was more greedy and wanted both Gendo and Yui)>>286155995Anno we did it, Shinji is now a genocide who killed billions and destroyed the world because he wanted to save his waifu, he now killed kaworu and is hopeless in a world were everyone has every reason to hate him and fear him. Were do we take this, how do we give hope to the kid.Anno realizing what he just did and that now has to give a reason to Shinji to get in the robot and beat Gendo, but that doesn't fix the fact that everyone will keep hatting Shinji.Anno:...fuck... Lets revise this in a few years after i have fun doing Godzilla and Ultraman movies.
u do realize that everything after the original run and end of evangelion is a blatant cashgrab right. i think even the japanese audience themselves said nu-eva is trash
>>286152970You're lacking context. Evangelion in Japan is a massive cultural phenomenon. Nearly everyone over there with even a passing interest in anime has been exposed to it. Making a movie series that takes for granted the culture of the country for which it was produced is not some kind of terrible thing. It would be like deriding Star Wars Rogue One for assuming the audience is familiar with the basic plot of Star Wars. The Rebuilds intentionally blur the line between a remake and a sequel because they're playing with the audience's expectations the entire time, and turning the fact that the audience has seen these events unfold before into part of the plot.
>>286152790>I don't remember it too well but does Kaworu not retain memories of each time? This is just a cope from Evafags to deal with the fact the only one Kaworu well written is Sadamoto´s Kaworu and not the yaoi fangirl bait who was Anno Kaworu in 1996 anime and 1997 EoE.
>>286156442Yeah, everyone loved the jerk off hospital scene
>>286151108>Eva was pretty fresh for it's time, I wouldn't call it clicheShit, here we going again> Shinji was a good representation of an early teen with severe father issues coming into terms with his sexual maturity and navigating the social and familial pressures in life. The unasked for responsibility thrust upon him would break any pubescent individualYeah, definitely this dude never saw Z Gundam, who treated much better exactly the same themes 10 years before NGE and it´s one of the declared inspirations of Anno
>>286160435It does seem like Kaworu was meant to retain his memories in every loop, he says "I'll make you happy this time, Shinji." in the rebuilds.Sadamoto depicted Rei the best, in my opinion. As a Kaworu fan I was disappointed with Sadamoto's depiction of him because I was expecting a lot more than an origin story. But it makes sense.
>>286160469Yeah we did actually, and the people who didn't are newgens.Buzz off tourist.
>>286160469The hospital scene was important.
>>286150058no one watches anime for the script u tardwe here to jerk off to hot anime babes