What was the message of End of Evangelion?The final scene confuses me, for how long were Shinji and Asuka out of the soup before the choking happened?
>>286151526>Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live
>>286151526The message was that if people don't like the ending of your anime you should retcon it by plagiarizing Tomino and Nagai
>>286151526The disgusting line can be interpreted many ways. My favorite I saw was shinji not actually stranger her and pussying out of actually killing her is why she was assmad at him
>>286151526>>286151566I like how both the TV ending and EoE very clearly state what the message is in no uncertain terms but people still don't get it for some reason
>>286151724It's probably the fact that EoE has this whole spiel about life and hope spliced between the two main characters of the movie trying to kill each other
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>>286151526that life is worth living. clannad did it better to be fair
>>286151626She just went through a horrifying ordeal, it would be weird if she wasn't disgusted
>>286151526That anno is a freaky unc
>>286152353>clannad did it better to be fairhow so? it made me cry, but i dont see how it explains that life is worth living. i wont get a new family, im a man. and i certainly wont find unconditional love kek
>>286151526yes
>>286151772Gotta take the bad with the good. That's life anon.
>>286154920fr fr on god :wilted_rose: :wilted_rose:
https://youtu.be/quTvRRCSED0?si=13w8fELPABUrYcnLpostin best eva song
Why is this fag 24/7 pretending to be an underage tiktoker? It's real gay.
>>286151626In the original Japanese she said "konichi warui", which kinda means "I feel bad/awful".
>>286158815https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30JGPvVIUb4&list=RD30JGPvVIUb4&start_radio=1
>>286151526it demonstrates that you don't suddenly get better and fix your life after a single realization/moment of clarity. Shinji is terrified of asuka, since she now knows him inside and out, having seen his bare soul, and he hers. he can no longer hide from her, so he relapses, deciding to kill her rather than confront his terror.The fact that asuka reaches out to him and he immediately stops choking her is meant to be optimistic. They're volatile and dysfunctional to an extreme degree but, they are still trying to change, and trying to change is how you actually change, not simply declaring it like he did inside instrumentality.
>>286159385It can also be used to mean something akin to "there is something gross in front of me"This meaning is usually employed by young women to turn men down in a derisive way
>>286159568We know she has the hots on Shinji, so it was probably her way of saying to him "Yes, idiot. I'm me and this is real".
>>286159751She did tell him to get lost a little earlier in the movie, right as he started expressing the very things she had wanted to hear throughout the rest of the showIt wouldn't be far-fetched to think that her feelings had changed after all that happened in EoE
>>286151610People did like the TV ending though
>>286151526I appreciate Asuka shutting down Shinji when he starts talking about slurs.
>>286159568Literal translations don't work for Japanese. In this context "disgusting" captures the meaning more. "Sickening" is slightly more literal. Also, she's saying it because she saw his memory of the hospital scene when they were in the orange juice.
>>286151566They also explained this in episode 26 but it went over people's heads. Episodes 25 and 26 are really just straight forward explanations of the shows messages.
>>286161578>the blade runner referencewouldn't it be the other way around?
>>286161845Shinji's a bad K in general, he actually was The Guy.
>>286160991>slursI was aware of Japan's xenophobia but I didn't think Shinji was like that
EoE is basically saying that the main characters make important realizations about themselves and about living as individuals but that the world won't immediately reward them just because they chose not to run away. Eva basically beats you over the head with this point with all the “Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live” shit. So yeah, things aren't guaranteed to get better, and the world is legitimately scarred, but the point is that they reached that first step in choosing to live in the real world with others, with all the pain and hardship that entails, which is always going to be the first requirement for happiness. It's a way better conclusion compared to Shinji getting rewarded because he decides to do the obvious thing and where some literal MPDG with zero characterization comes out of nowhere just to end up with him and love him unconditionally.
>>286151626the mainstream interpretation has always been picrel or something similar i think>Drama Card D-88 "Kimochi Warui"> "Shinji renounced the world where all hearts had melted into one and accepted each other unconditionally. His desire... to live with 'others' -- other hearts that would sometimes reject him, even deny him. That is why the first thing he did after coming to his senses was to place his hands around Asuka's neck. To feel the existence of an 'other'. To confirm (make sure of) rejection and denial.">アスカの首に手をかけた、「他人」の存在を感じるために。拒絶と否定を確かめるために。
>>286162903Apparently, Anno got the idea for this from a book where the protagonist cried onto a woman's chest
>>286158815Pretty fucked up lyrics, but very appropriate for EoESurprised the song didn't make the cut
>>286151724because that requires listening to the dialogue
>>286163683itty bitty titties
