Chapter 12.Previously:>>285931545 (1-3)>>285978906 (4-6)>>286031731 (7)>>286066473 (8)>>286124222 (10, 9) Be advised I misdumped 9 the first time, so this thread opens with 10, but 9 is re-posted below.>>286146668 (11)
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>>286168009Literally a male.
>>286168140Autism.
>>286168110>>286168140>>286168189>>286168287>overstimulated just by people talking and having fun nearbyFucking gets me, too.
>>286168306At a certain point a dirty mug isn't just a dirty dish, but a decoration.
>>286168330Pervy old hag is still writing BL?
>>286168538>>286168569poor kid
>>286168620What a clumsy way of trying to start talking about your crush. I guess the manga was more blatant about Emiri being a lesbo from earlier on.
>>286168713Minori was completely justified in how she treated Makio.
>>286168990Fuck her up Asa!!
>>286168678Interesting how the anime changed these bits.Emiri is the one who "interrupts" Makio. Asa just fell asleep so Emiri decided it was time to leave, reinforcing that whole recovery sleep mode thing.The clock is not digital, so the passage of time is slightly more subtle.Makio prepares the food while Asa is sleeping.
>>286170904Yeah, the anime is changing a bunch of things in order to streamline things.
>>286168713>>286168990It is time to start that Asa Reich. Total ADHD Hag death.
>>286170904The manga could have used a lighting change to communicate that better, imo.
This manga can make me tear up suddenly like none else
>>286170401This kind of thing is a big problem. Makes me unable to keep any pets that require socialisation.
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>>286168804Why is that panel just Asa's feet? What is her bare feet supposed to convey?
>>286177083Uncertainty, fidgeting.
>>286177083The artist just likes drawing little naturalistic bits of people or things.
>>286170904Asa fell asleep in the manga too, and the sleep thing was reinforced even more since it was explicitly right when she started thinking about the accident. Emiri just woke her up. The anime also removed some of the edge like Makio calling Asa annoying and Asa throwing a hissy fit. Maybe they thought it might make them come off too unlikeable, but Asa's temper tantrum actually made me like her more. It makes her feel like more of a complete and real character. Plus, it's adorable.
>>286179712They brought in some of Asa's more unlikable bits, but they did leave out some of Makio's more snappy moments, like this chapter's.
>>286173318The author has a real skill at getting to the heart of some conflict for the best emotional punch.
>>286179806And people in the anime thread already thought Makio was being rude in that episode. Imagine the reaction if they kept it in.
>>286185956It honestly throws off the balance somewhat because it makes Asa look like a one-sided bitch in the making while Makio comes off as too saintly.
>>286186032Well in that episode Asa didn't lash out at Makio. She just curled up on the sofa and cried.
>>286186710I know. I'm talking about how later the anime makes sure to include Asa's more unlikable moments when she channel's Minori's personality when criticizing Makio for this or that. To keep that and not bits where Makio is bitchy or mean kinda throws off the balance.
>>286186848She hasn't really been bitchy or mean since this chapter has she?
Apologies for being a bit off-topic. I didn't read the chapter nor have I read any of the manga. I will eventually, but I dislike reading manga in English ever since learning Japanese and while I do plan on reading the manga, it'll be on my own time. I already get stressed out enough following as many seasonal as I do, keeping up manga alongside dumps on /a/ would be lethal. I just wanna post my thoughts on the most recent episode and don't feel like waiting for the next episode thread.Anyway I just got caught up with the most recent episode and watched the previous one a couple days ago. I'm still in a bit of shock off the last episode. It's unbelievable how real and full to life these characters are. Kasamachi's depression and Minori's, well, everything was handled so beautifully. I was a bit caught off guard with Asa assuming her mother's note was a lie, I'm still not sure why that was her first assumption, but she's also a teenager going through a lot so I can't blame her. She herself is now only truly realizing how little she knows her mom, and now can only go off what little she has that remains of her.I don't know if the show will ever give the full reasoning, but based off what the episode showed, my assumption is that Minori didn't truly want to have Asa. The way she interrogates herself, asking why she can't do this while pointing to herself pregnant, her crying with that expression as she "writes' the note, saying that her life didn't go as she thought it would, her constantly wanting to appeal normal, to be "a little bit better than normal" as a woman. While I'm sure the answer if presented would be beautiful, it works so well even now because Asa doesn't get to know either. She doesn't get to know if her mother's love was real, if she was a wanted pregnancy. It's brutal.
>>286187835I'm a bit of an emotional mess right now, not just from the impact of the previous episode but at my own stupidity, I put too much pride and self-esteem into learning Japanese and now anytime I'm even remotely confused by anything, I blame myself and get suicidally depressed so not perfectly understanding why Asa reacted as she did got me unreasonably upset. Either way I wanted to say with ep06, as I'm sure most anon's did it got me hopelessly romantic. Makio is probably the best "representation" of a person like me and like many anons and it taps into an internal jealous I've had of female versions of "me". Kasamachi's love of Makio is probably the most "unrealistic" thing of the show but I'd hardly consider it beyond that of abnormality, I think a lot of guys would go for Makio, I would too, and stuff like that always pains me in that I believe being a woman with these problems at the very least makes you more desirable than a man. Kasamachi kind of says it himself, albeit moreso about depression than anything neurodivergent related, but I think most people, especially fellow men silently judge and just expect you to get over it, to work harder on it. I think deep down I know if I was a woman, my life would probably be worse and I would have gotten raped a lot, but I still can't help but feel immense pain and sadness while watching the romance of this show. It's all just so incredible. I suppose Makio is a better catch than me by not being a depressed NEET, she has her problems but she's still pretty put-together.I doubt this show will be 3x3 for me, that's far too contentious of a spot, but 5x5 or something is very possible. I think the 20s have been pretty decent for anime and this is a standout. I'm sorry for being off-topic for the dump and for blogging as much as I have, this show does something to me. I hope you all enjoyed the chapter, feel free to call me a faggot if you read this far. Also sorry for posting an image in a dump thread.
>>286187835Its always nice to share your thoughts. I agree that Minori probably didn't "want" to have Asa, in the sense of really desiring a child with Asa's father at that moment. Instead, it was a "want" in the same way that she wanted to be average everywhere else, but the exact timing and male was inconvenient. Doing a browse of the Wikipedia article, it seems like abortions in Japan are a bit hard to get and expensive. So she might have been pretty stuck right then, even if an abortion hadn't been against her morals - I'm not going to try and guess what Minori's view on that would be. Because she was trapped with Asa and a vacuous 'husband', she basically went into coping mode and turned to Asa as the carrier of all the dreams and desires she herself never could live for. The love was real, but it was also basically psychologically necessary otherwise Minori would have fallen into a very deep depressive cycle over her life basically failing to match her expectations entirely with no way out that wouldn't mean sacrificing her world view. Like if she didn't love Asa, would Minori even have still been alive at 40? It is a very real and bitter life story for a woman who chased normalcy with neurotic focus and missed. At least it seems that she genuinely did love Asa and want the best for her, despite Minori's difficulties showing it sometimes. There was some light in her life through her daughter. Even if I think it was desperate.
>>286188012Thanks anon. Another thing that leads me to believe that Asa wasn't planned on, is after the cut of her listening to the other women talk about becoming moms and the one saying it feels like she finally became the woman she wanted to be, it cuts to Minori in the hospital room, sitting in the position as the pregnant one we see, facing us who would be in the position of the Minori antagonizing the pregnant one, as she talks about life not going as she thought it would.Just such a lovely show, there's so much to think about, inspect and rewatch. I think the love she had for Asa was real too, it's just so scary to think about when so much of her, including her very "marriage" was a lie. I'm honestly getting really emotional thinking about her, I'm very much a Makio, to a fault, and I just feel bad for any Minori'. Life isn't easy...
>>286188171Yeah, its the first show in a while for me that really captures a slice of what it is like to be human. With some things just not working out for you and some periods in life that just rip you apart for no 'good reason'. Kasamachi's depression over working at the bank that didn't have an apparent source or cause but left him unable to move or go on, was another thing that got me. Just a guy whose own mind destroyed his life and he had to fight against to fix himself by taking a risk to jump careers to find something he could put up with again. And at the end, life just went on for him. Minori' wasn't a saint. And her struggle wasn't unique or the worst thing you could imagine. But you can just feel what it'd be like to realize that everything you'd wanted, even if it was banal and boring, is now almost forever unreachable before you even turned 30. That you ate shit and lost and now its just holding pace until you die. Another half century ahead of you that you know isn't going to be what you wanted, no matter how hard you tried. Her only solace was at least hoping she could raise Asa to be the woman she couldn't be. And even that failed due to bad luck. She'll never see her daughter as a woman living her life. Its heavy, you know?
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>>286191272>>286191289Surprised the school system was accommodating of this. Not in the sense of allowing it, but in the sense of not heavily punishing Makio for cutting class. Seems more laissez faire than I'd expect.
>>286191965Isn't high school technically optional?
>>286191386How can she call out /a/nons like this?
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>>286191386Alone on valentine day anons?
>>286191796Kasamachi is our resident expert on all normalfag perspectives.
>>286191848Geezer love. >>286192552Meh. If I'm alone at this point, it is because it is a natural inclination. Therefore I'd probably be less happy if I had a 'Valentine'.
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>>286193952She should be allowed to slap Makio at least once.
>>286191678This fucking manga
>>286191678I guess she's saying that even if she finds a little shelter in her desert of loneliness, it won't be enough?
>>286195323Makio is a queen. You can't do that.
>>286196635It's all rationalization because her feelings are not well met. The brain feels things and the upper brain makes up explanations for it. I will giver her better love than her autist aunt and her metaphor will say the oasis water is very fulfilling
>>286196883A queen should be regal!
>>286199069I think it also stands long term for her. She'll always be a person who has issues with loneliness and feeling that she'll have a large enough 'oasis' within the empty desert around her. While Makio gets overstimulated and uncomfortable around others, Asa feels lonely even within a crowd if she doesn't feel connected enough to others. And that'll probably be the case forever, just something she has to deal with in her life.
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>>286200500pray for me, machine
>>286202198The emotional overlap between reading a good chapter of Ikoku Nikki and a good chapter of Houseki no Kuni isn't that close, but they are marvelous in their different territories. IN is about learning to find some kind of healthiness and balance in an unstable and painful world, HnK is about learning how humans are incompatible with their own happiness.
Finally caught up on this after slacking off in the start of the seasondamn, so many relatable charactersI envy my younger brother with assburgers because he just does shit that I want to do but am too afraid to and he gets away with it
>>286196883Then Makio should spank her
>>286204686Makio might be more into that.
>>286204686A queen would get an underling to do it for her. Kasamachi-kun can spank her.
>>286208060Gotta get her sexuality all warped from a young age. Good idea.
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>>286210935>ColdplayHeh, good thing they god rid of those faggots for the anime.
>>286212551Bro, you can't pretend that you never rocked out to Viva la Vida. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zdDXPYo0I
>>286210996>>286211016>>286211033https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_(singer)#Public_imageThe P!nk reference makes this bit with the lesbo more obvious. It is a funny scene, either way. Two girls laughing about how ignorant their parents are, when both actually got read pretty close by their parents. Just slightly flipped. Asa wanted to be the idol, Emiri had a crush.
>>286211069Cute boy.
>>286212815Disgusting.
>>286212815>Two girls laughing about how ignorant their parents areAlso Asa failing to pick up on Emiri's extremely subtle clues.
>>286211093>>286211105The Okinawa Special.
>>286211186Useless sperm donor.
>>286211209>>286211218>>286211226Hell of a thing.
>>286211269Asa Rage!!
>>286211269>>286211307>>286211353I like how 'dangerous' her faces are on these pages.
>>286211069Maybe her mom has a point
>>286215055Mother knows best~
>>286215055>>286215464SHUT UP MOMYOU'RE DEAD
>>286216033A proper daughter would honor her mother by embracing her beauty.
>>286212839My cute boywife
>>286212551You might be happy about Coldplay getting the axe, but they also axed Makio's Minecraft addiction, so how does that feel?
>>286219462Is it because of copyright that they can't mention them?
>>286220847Just fear that if people found out Makio also played the block game there wouldn't be enough dick left for the rest of the world. Too many dudes would fall desperately in love with her.
>>286213206Don't disrespect him like that. He brings in the money too.
>>286224746Minori would probably be better than him at that if she tried. It would just give her conniptions to be a 'weird' working mother. How scandalous.