so about 2 chapters of berserk come out each year supposedly, do you think we'll live to see the end of berserk or will the two guys responsible for keeping the manga going die before finishing it too? two chapters a year is a really slow pace and i'm not fully caught up, but it seems like it's not close to being finished... i am like 30 chapters behind so maybe it is close to ending, idk, but let me know if i'm close or not.
I don't care anymore about Berserk
>>286179909that's sad anon, berserk is so good.sad that it probably won't get an ending.
>>286179828Nah it's more like 5-6.
>>286179828They had a long hiatus after Miura died with them polishing the last chapter he worked on. In 4 years they've released 19 chapters which by Berserk standards is relatively on pace. I think Berserk will finish as a 50 volume Manga and it's entered the endgame already. 7 volumes to go I think
I think if Miura were still alive the group would still be on the ship after the events of Elfhelm, probably with some additional side stories. For all the complaints it seems like the Mori era isn't fucking around and they're going from plot point to plot point with no filler.
>>286180087oh yeah? that's reasuring
Berserk will be good soonTrust the planDo not ask for releasing the Miura notes
>new author after authors deathIts a fan fiction at best, i dont consider these chapters to be canon.
>>286179828For some reason Berserk changed a lot.It´s almost like a different person is drawing now.
>>286180184I think the thing to remember is that Mori isn't messing around with filler or further world building, he's going from plot point to plot point in each chapter/volume, and what we're losing in more nuanced character development we're gaining significant plot development each volume. Without going in to Spoilers as you said you're not caught up, there's been 5 significant things that have happened which, and I don't mean this in a bad way, Miura would probably have dedicated several chapters to. There's a battle that takes place over a chapter and a half that Miura 100% would have stretched out to 4-5 chapters, easily. You'll see what I mean when you read it. In terms of pacing like in Millennium Falcon where we'd see Griffith's perspective for 2-3 chapters, we're getting multiple perspectives per chapter. Which is fine for finishing the story but I guess that lingering feeling of lost context is always going to be a big "what if".
>>286180299The same reason I fucking hate Dragonball Super 2bh
>>286179828so is it true that berserk is the Nana for men?
>>286181748what's nana about?
>>286180389heh. But yeah, you can't expect anyone but Miura to finish Miura's work. I don't care how much fluff (in order to keep the gravy train running) is put out there about "Miura's bestest bestest super best friend EVAR totally knowing every single detail about what Miura wanted to do". I don't buy it, even if he got a generally good tease about where the story was going - people are not stagnant, they learn, they change, and Berserk's story was an ever-flowing thing. If Miura lived even a single day longer he might have come up with a new idea and drastically could have changed the story. Kentaro Miura's Berserk is Kentaro Miura's, a running work of a man. The """B Team""" does not get the benefit of the doubt from me, nor do I care about Berserk following the death of the creator of it.Although Lost Children is my favorite, Golden Age is arguably the best arc in Berserk, and it's gotten 2 adaptations already, one of them being genuinely good in my opinion. So all things considered, the fact that Golden Age is, in itself, a completely story, I take that as the lasting work to be enjoyed. We see a band's rise and fall, a story about medieval comradery falling into a dark fantasy horror. That's good enough for me. I don't need literal Berserk fanfiction in my life.
>>286182014Golden Age is best because Casca is in it
>>286186290horny bisexuals
>>286179828There's an entire final arc to go which will probably be 10 more years.
>>286180299How could they not be canon they’re MUIRA’s fucking story you moron. He told his homie how he wanted it to end how it would lead up to that. It’s canon retard>>286182014You’re a fucking moron. That’s as cannon as it gets. “ But Muira isn’t physically writing it” what and idiotic logic.
>>286187042>He told his homie how he wanted it to endCitation needed
>>286187042Holy ESL
>>286179828Berserk ended with the last chapter that Miura worked on.when Guts was standing face to face with Griffith after so many years.everything after that is bullshit fanfiction and character assassination>miura told me how it would end back in 1993 when we were eating hamburgers that’s not how a 30-year-long story that keeps getting new plot lines added works, sorry no but please stop destroying your friend’s legacy
>>286187060yes apparently Miura told him “hey you know all those side plots and character arcs of the skull knight and all the other characters that I’m going to be building up for decades? Well yeah one day the fairy queen is going to go “whoops time for us to leave” and snap her fingers and VOOMP everybody except like 3 core characters is going to vanish from existence.”
>>286179828I would be fucked up if the new guy died too and he had a friend who said he kind of new the outline of the story and he took over
>>286187258Disappearing randomly is Skull knight’s whole thing
>>286187258Almost like they were filler characters.
>>286187258Miura says "and then Griffith attacks and they flee on the boat and run into the Kushan"Its not like he had every single detail down. They are trying to fill in the blanks between the bullet points they know with as little as is necessary to avoid OC as much as possible. That's why the first few chapters had nearly zero dialogue until they got abit more comfortable. We are getting a spark notes version of the end. A picturized version of the story highlights that Miura had planned out.
>>286187042Dude, all Miura did was spitball about what potentially ideas he had for Berserk. These aren't detailed scripts.
>>286187557It’s almost like trying to “officially” continue an author’s story from a rough draft of the cliff notes that he summarized to you 30 years ago is a terrible disservice to the author and his work.but what do I know, I’m just some guy who really liked Berserk back in the day, then started reading the continuation chapters and felt an immediate and overwhelming urge to shoot himself in the head twice
>>286181798Glowniggers
>>286180761dbs hasn't continued since toriyama died
>>286187633Feel free to just ignore them then retard. I am much happier to get this than nothing. Nobody is forcing you to read these.
>>286187841fair enoughas the retard that I am, I will ignore thembrb gonna go eat crayons
>>286180761The problem with DBS isn't author involvement or whatever. The problem with it is that it's fucking dogshit.
>>286180014The author's dead. The awful fan fiction the vultures around his corpse are producing will only tarnish its reputation further.
>>286189250>Guts, the man who never gives up even when half his body is ripped off and he’s dragged halfway to Hell>oh he just gave up and is lying face down on the Kushan ship in despair half comatose>no he didn’t get hurt, his girlfriend just got kidnapped so he doesn’t feel like moving, he’s just lying face down on the floor in a full suit of armor>oh pirates are attacking oh the ship is on fire oh his friends are in mortal peril?>oh well that sucks just gonna lie here some moreI don’t know what this shit is but it’s not Berserk
I don't care, its fanfiction slop after Miura died.
>>286189367You forgot to mention Guts was in the "dead Yamcha" pose, that was totally necessary.
Should have had Griffith kidnap casca, guts immediately goes and kills Griffith, happy ending, wrap it up. everyone would understand it having a game of thrones tier rushed ending given that miura dropped dead.
>>286181748Berserk is shoujo from the perspective of a male character instead of female
>>286180014Berserk was good for a handful of arcs, but the overall story suffers massively after the Eclipse
>>286189919I feel like the new writers must hate Miura or otherwise have some incredible grudge against him
>>286179828Berserk died with the Golden Age arc. It's time for us to accept that truth. Very little of value is found after the Eclipse. The japanese readership took a huge hit after that and never really recovered, it's like they knew.
>>286190250I thought the much later part with the astral vision of Guts as a demon dog dragging a coffin through the wasteland was really well done
>>286179828Tf are you talking about? Berserk ended with a cliffhanger on a beach a few years ago
>>286190500yes, this is correct.I almost feel like this is a better ending than we would have gotten if Miura had finished the story, since just about every manga ending I have ever read has been a letdown
>>286187042>“ But Muira isn’t physically writing it”yes, it's the correct logic. I don't mind the new chapters but they are not written by Miura that's just facts. 'Miura's notes' is a grey area that you should always be wary of being misused by the publication. Rather than living in uncertainty, it's better to just put the manag on permanent hiatus.
>>286190591holy fuck there are how many of these monstrosities now?I haven’t read any of the nu-shit ones and I made my judgment on them back when they announced the author. I used to read Star Wars books in the 90’s and I remembered Kevin J. Anderson as the writer of the most awful trashy slop, and considering Star Wars books that is saying an awful lot. The dude was ChatGPT before Pentiums were even a thing.
>>286190300But that's a moment. That's not a story building up to something. There's nothing rewarding in reading Berserk after the Eclipse.
>>286190250What about the lost children?
>>286190850It just feels like edgelord shit that adds nothing to the story. It really doesn't give you anything other than "muh raep and violens" as if it was enough to carry a narrative. No wonder the series got progressively lighter in tone as they went along.
>>286179828I just realized that they both kinda cheated on each other but that's okay
>>286191094the part with Griffith and Guts’s child being reborn through the egg-shaped apostle was really compelling I thought, too bad we never got a real resolution but I think it works as an open-ended “miracle or mystery of uncertain consequences” in the way it “concludes” with Miura’s final chapter in the moonlight.>>286191644the first arc of Berserk where he fucks the demon in an exact copy of the Conan the Barbarian opening scene is rather silly, the story is extreme edge from a young man at the very beginning but it gets better quickly. I like the way Miura took the Hellraiser aesthetic and worldview and turned it into an actually interesting story instead of the way it is in the actual Hellraiser movies where is is just a lot of bullshit on top of a few shitty slasher movies. It feels like “What if Clive Barker was actually good at his job instead of being a gay sadomasochistic clown who had a few neat ideas?”I feel like Berserk is one of the very few horror stories that really works as a genuine horror story instead of a bunch of cheap shots and jumpscares
>>286191877I was joking since I see people say that all the time but yeah they both only really did so on a technicality. I wasn't meaning to imply they truly did
>>286179909I never cared about Berserk and celebrated Miura's death.You get what you deserve, edgeslop consuming retards.
>>286179828I just reread Therrapy Schierke doujins now.
>>286192366>i pupped inmy pantse
>>286193785Dark fantasy slop is slopCope>but muh strugglerstruggle yourself to death
>>286189367Death then rebirth of the hero is a common storytelling trope. While Guts didn’t literally die, his ego died because his sword, the thing he’s based his entire life around, did fuck all to keep the woman he loves from getting kidnapped after she finally regained consciousness. I’d imagine someone’s entire worldview crumbling in a matter of minutes if not seconds would fuck them up pretty badly. Once he comes out of the stupa or whatever it’s called, he’ll likely get a powerup and the Kushan will do spiritual voodoo shit to the Dragonslayer that will allow him to physically and astrally hurt Griffith/Femto
>>286187680He was barely involved when it was running
>>286187258Unironically do you have friends?
>>286189367>Hasn't been following the story Speed reading?
>>286189367>his girlfriend just got kidnappedYou mean literally his entire purpose for the last year in the manga timeline and literally the sole reason he has been travelling to Elfhelm, destroying his body with the Berserker Armour, and not a day after he resigned himself to a quiet life with Casca?
>>286179828Berserk has been over for a long time, you folks are delulu
>>286190591as a lifelong mega-fan of Dune, I have to say I don't think Brian's books are that bad. I mean, they are bad, they're definitely not good, but they're not THAT bad. Every acts like it's the biggest defilement of an author's legacy ever but they should reserve that fury for what Brandon Sanderson did to the Wheel of Time
>>286193818>>but muh strugglerThis is one of the funniest parts of the story and how people receive it. Kids think Guts is an example of a strong, unbeatable man who doesn't need others to succeed. A Lone Wolf, if you will. But if you read the manga then it's quite the opposite, the story is about how Guts has to learn to trust others because he has to admit he isn't strong enough. Better yet, he needs to trust and appreciate women.
>>286179828Berserk died with Muira
>>286182014say what you want trilogy, at least they made the sex scenes hot.
>Berserk is about to get interesting again>Dies
>>286179828>do you think we'll live to see the end of berserkwe did they all live on elf island and moonlight boy comes visit every full moonguts doesn't kill griffith anymore cause he'd have to kill his own sonthe end
>>286190225his "best friend" mangaka was probably envious of its success and now has taken over to ruin it
>>286179828>they are brahmin saaar
>>286193847yeah nice cope >>286194751yeah, guts wouldn't get down syndrome from that. fucking idiot
>>286196324>guts wouldn't get down syndrome from that. fucking idiotLmao. Go re read the story you brainlet One Piece fanboy
>>286193847>his ego died because his sword, the thing he’s based his entire life around, did fuck all to keep the woman he loves from getting kidnapped after she finally regained consciousnessThe other thing in that whole confrontation with Griffith is he's trying harder to stop the armour taking over than he is fighting, it's a good scene. Also the thing with the sword is one of the reasons why I feel 1997 has aged so poorly. There's no reason in the anime for Guts not to have the sword with him. In the manga it's broken after the fight with Wyald, in the anime he just doesn't have it for some reason
>>286193847>powerupLmao. Guts going Super Saiyan is exactly the kind of stupid shit Reddit keeps spouting. He's going to come to terms with Griffith's betrayal and the death of his friends, like Rickert did. Maybe he'll get some healing powder or whatever, but the spiritual nature of the Cuckshed is going to be more about him emotionally growing.
>Guts is going to-Berserk is over.
>>286196559i did stupid piece of shit. he didn't get retarded even when he was a child killing his own father. he didn't get retarded from the fucking eclipse were everyone he loved died, his lover was raped and become a vegetable and his son was transformed into a demonit's wrong, it's not guts, they ruined the entire point of the character and you're justifying it because you're a brainlet, "its in the official manga so it's canon" no it fucking isnt
>>286179828>Berserk>HxH>Ippo>Conan>KaijiSeries I’d be willing to put money on for never getting completed
to be honest i just kinda clocked out of berserk during the conviction arc. it had good ideas but it's when the manga just started to become bland and boring. while i love casca to death i think she probably should have died. the manga is just casca casca casca and then the pirate apostles for like 100 chapter and then speedrun elfheim.it's over.
>>286196676Never said he’d get a super saiyan powerup. It’ll likely just be imbuing his sword with some astral bullshit from the behelit he’s been carrying around the entire series and giving him the mental capacity to hold back the berserker armor and be able to use its powers while still lucid without Schierke’s help. Would make zero sense for him to get something like a super saiyan level powerup. What I think would be cool would be Guts getting his own version of Skull Knight’s armor that shows he’s grown past being the berserker he was for most of the series
>>286197153Maybe it's because I actually like potato Casca but I don't understand why some people say Casca should have died. Then the story would have been even more directionless than what you complain about. Keeping Casca around enforces the theme of seeking fulfillment besides chasing the past/seeking revenge. A Griffith redemption arc would never work. He sold his soul and that's it. So without Casca, there would be nowhere for the story to even go.
>>286197447the manga is already over it's like toyotaro and dragon ball it's just not the same
>>286197504I know
>>286197518Miura ink and pencil art is goated but I find half his color works kinda meh.
>>286190225The new writer made Holyland, a manga with a cuck MC. He likes depressed cucks that gave up.
>>286196760>i didClearly not if you're still thinking Guts is in black Swordsman mode. Go follow Luffy and friends
>>286197329>It’ll likely just be imbuing his sword with some astralIt already is. He can only hit Griffith if he's focused on it. He was focused on protecting Casca on Elfhelm, he needs a clear mind like when he fought him last time and when he hurt Slan's manifestation.
>>286197862I’d say there’s a difference between Guts’s sword covered in apostle blood and SK’s sword of actuation which seemed to be something that could actually harm Femto. Last time he fought Griffith was when he was leaving the Hawk and Griffith was still a mortal man, but he’s now as close to a god as a character can get in the series without becoming the idea of evil. And Slan’s manifestation was a pile of troll innards that she took over, it was a temporary vessel not the permanent one that Griffith has. I could just be remembering things wrong though but IIRC the Dragonslayer needs to be able to connect with Griffith and it just phased right through him last time
>>286197829>still thinking Guts is in black Swordsmanthe guy who jumped in the ocean with full armor and got swallowed by a sea monster and had 0 plan for coming out? that's the kind of guy the collapses and becomes literally non verbal? mori is a clown and is literally mixing shit into a masterpiece
>>286198050Yeah you're low IQ. I get it. You're displaying it very clearly.
>>286197980>connect with Griffith and it just phased right through him last timeIt cut his hair. It's a mindset thing, same reason Griffith was able to slap Griffith. He understands that Griffith in Golden Age and Griffith post Reincarnation are different people, Guts is still living in the past.
>>286198325i'm right so you resort to name calling
>>286198360You started the name calling lil bro, I don't engage with retards that speed read
>>286198346>Griffith was able to slap Griffith*Rickert
>>286198413>I don't engage with retards that speed readyou engaged with me therefore i'm not a retard therefore i'm right and you're wrong
>>286179828Enjoy what you have and don't care about things that are not important. Never forget you're caring about a corporate product that only releases 2 chapters a year probably because the authors are in a chain of one-uppance between themselves and the publishers.
>>286180148I doubt Mori actually knows what he's doing, or is at least missing enormous amounts of plot points that Miura never shared before he died.He also gets a lot of things wrong.
>>286198613>He also gets a lot of things wrongSuch as?
>>286198566You think calling you a retard and laughing at you is engaging? Lmao. Go back to one piece kiddo, it's more your speed
>>286198346That makes sense. He has been holding onto the past for a while. Interesting to see where it goes from where it is right now with him getting swallowed by the clam
>>286198833gg ez dont cry baby its ok
>>286198817His understanding of the magic system in Berserk based on how he made Farnese summon the four kings and the whole way Isma and the elfhelm critters pretty much got written out of the story goes to show he barely skimmed over the lore of the story he's continuing. Plus you'd think that with Miura being dead and the story being planned out we wouldn't get 2/3 chapters a year since Miura isnt autistically drawing every wrinkle on a tree or something. Both the story and the art got a massive downgrade and the releases are still being dripfed, no wonder people are hating on it.
>>286199720>His understanding of the magic system in Berserk based on how he made Farnese summon the four kings Explain>and the whole way Isma and the elfhelm critters pretty much got written out of the storyTheir spirit tree died
>>286199720>we wouldn't get 2/3 chapters a year19 chapters in 4 years
>>286199720It's funny because there's ONE big mistake that could be argued and you didn't clock it. Even then that mistake can be summised away.
>>286199720She summons the same barrier she summoned in the Seahorse. The one that melts manifestations of demons
>>286199720>>286201347And she even had the other witches reinforcing it. They're sweating because their magic power is fading.
>>286196862>Ippo>Conanwell past their expirations, those are just career releases
