leorio got giga carried through most of the hunter exam and probably would have never passed it if not for the other 3 (especially killua). if it werent for the election arc he might just be the biggest fraud in manga history
It's weird how they occasionally show more licensed hunters sometimes and those guys are even weaker than Leorio
All of this is compensated by his role as an adult who cares for Gon. His narrative purpose of providing that > any accusations that he may be a fraud.
>>286203685If you look at the actual exam we saw at the start, a lot of it wasn't THAT hard. Outside of the sprint at the beginning, every challenge had some element of randomness to it. So someone who isn't that powerful could make it through if they were lucky. Which is probably why so many weaklings manage to squeeze through just by trying over and over until they pass.
>>286203471My counter to that would be, Hisoka didn't take his life. If Leorio (who was indeed carried in more ways than one) was truly trash, Hisoka would have just taken his head off during their first encounter.
>>286203471>if it werent for the election arc he might just be the biggest fraud in manga historyNot even close
>>286203471No he passed because the writer wanted him to.
>>286203471Neither of them would've got the license without the entire groupGon is too dumb, would've lost in the first part. Killua is too volatile, would've gotten Illumi'ed in the tower or the forest. Kurapika would've gotten Hisokaed in the forest
As someone nearly at the end of the anime now, is it me or is Hunter x Hunter quite unconventional for a shonen series? Like how there are no fights until the end of the first (Exam) arc, how little fighting there actually is in general (the palace section of Chimera Ant shocked me with how of it is Gon sitting on the floor waiting and other heroes running away from battles), how the power system isn't introduced until something like episode 32, how "main characters" flicker in and out of the series, the Chairman's actions against the King, etc etc.
>>286207218it was basically born as a shell for Togashi to explore all the ideas that Jump wouldn't approve of making a whole manga about, and is basically a franlemstein of several different rejected manga that become a vehicle for him to just explore whatever new ideas he gets for the rest of his life by making them the focus of the next arc. gon, killua and kurapika are from his rejected queer sports manga, the hunter exam is about this toriko/dangan ronpa-esque world of people that are supernaturally good at their profession, yorknew is about magic gangster wars, greed island is a story about a "going into games machine", if HxH got axed early on, Togashi still would have written these stories, just not in the same universe or with the same characters
>>286207342I see. That makes sense since it's just so... unusual in places. I couldn't tell if that was the master plan or because Togashi was throwing shit at the wall. Also, am I wrong in thinking people rate Chimera Ant as the best arc? I felt the palace stuff really dragged (everything with Palm felt completely unnecessary and the action keeps switching to the basement again and again and again).The ending of the arc was very tender but, again, it's unconventional nature left me kind of confused. In the way that actually the climatic battle ends about 10 episodes earlier and humans are the real monsters is sorta the moral?
>>286207218>Hunter x Hunter quite unconventional for a shonen seriesNo, when I watched it I thought that the people who told me that it wasn't like other shonen were fucking liars
>>286203471Luck is a skill.It doesn't matter why he passed, only that he did.
>>286207509On a very basic level, I might agree. But I think there are many aspects or story beats that are handled different to most of the genre. Chimera Ant king might look like a rip-off of Cell but the entire thing is handled completely differently, for instance.
>>286207218It’s even worse now, to the point I might drop the series . The current arc barely has fights. It reads more like Togahsi wanted to write literature but realized he’s too Shonen brained to make the full pivot. The arc is mired with text.
>>286207617The series is a love letter to Shonen, which means it plays many things straight, plays many things to their logical extreme, breaks down certain Shonen aspects, etc
What job did Hisoka and Illumi have that required them to get hunter licenses,Honestly feels like Hisoka was already stalking Kurapika in some way before the Hunter Exam even starts
>>286207633I already felt this with the palace stuff and its heavy, almost constant reliance on voice over narration to explain things. It really felt like a failure on his part to be unable to write in a way that didn't require such heavy use of that crutch.
>>286207218>how the power system isn't introduced until something like episode 32One of my favorite episodes.I think the answer is the author likes realism and that battle damage piles up very quickly, you need immense training to have the aura capacity to sustain even a 30 minute nen battle. Fights just happen to reach their inevitable conclusion very quickly because the author doesn't let characters pick themselves up too often after taking massive attack damage. Knuckle vs Youpi is one of the few multi-episode battles but the only reason it keeps going is because Knuckle is doing everything in his power to avoid taking damage at all because it wouldn't be very realistic for Knuckle to be able tank the damage that Youpi is putting out.
>>286207218I think that's intentional and the key of its success.HxH verges on the seinen side of mangas and blends many genres of thriller, horror, social commentary, sports etc. beyond the typical nekketsu and battle shonen. That's what makes it stand out and get apprecaited by people who like dufferent things from their manga
>>286207771Imo it’s way worse in the anime than the manga. I think Togashi is one of those authors that fits better for manga. CA 2011 almost gets annoying during the palace invasion at times where I can binge watch the manga without effort. Contrary to popular belief, I think the succession war will also be worse in anime format.
>>286207464ChimAnt being the best arc is a bit of a meme>it's the most DBZ inspired arc and the one power scalers cite the most>'humans are the real monsters' done in a 'humanity fuck yeah' kinda way, in that its the key to human victory>gon makes a faustian nen bargain that turns him into an incredibly powerful grown man in little boy shorts with a six foot tall high cut fade>gender ambiguous murdercat>main villain has a preteen blind waifuin other words the arc is prime shitposting material for 'HxH is not like other shonen, its soft seinen' memes
Current arc is the peak of manga as a medium, NOTHING has ever been better.
>>286207633Togashi threw the longest 1v1 battle in the series at readers before getting onto the boat, definitely seems like he knew it'd be a while before any real fighting would happen..I feel it's likely there are big fights planned on the boat eventually but it's simply not time for them happen and unfortunately he cant just skip ahead
>>286207883I appreciate that aspect of HxH but I'm a bit divided on it, regardless. Sometimes I think, "Neat, that was unexpected," and other times it's slightly unsatisfying. Like the PT/Yorkshin arc, a great deal of it is Gon and Killua just sneaking around or being captured. And the second half of CA is mostly the heroes running for their lives because they can't compete. So on the one hand I'm thinking it's good that the heroes aren't suddenly pulling victories out of their ass against opponents who should be much stronger than them (and avoid that cliche). On the other hand it's not very satisfying that our MCs are so outclassed and not really doing much at all. I guess I'm thinking while this is good and all, Togashi could/should have done better and given the heroes opponents more their level so they have something to do? So Gon isn't sitting on the floor for 20 episodes waiting for Pitou to do her thing, or him and Killua walking around with the Troupe because they're outclassed and can't get away without an elaborate plan.>>286207925Interesting. Guess I'll find out when I reach the end of the anime shortly and have to move on to the manga to see how it progresses.
Isn’t only the current hunter exam hard because Netero was a notorious fightfag? I’d imagine the current selection process isn’t as stupid
>>286203685>>286204516I think the weight training they did in order to save Killua did wonders for him.
>>286208196Really? Following the whole "make sushi" trial in Gon's exam? Even in the one where Killua gets his license wasn't it more of a, "You know what, for something different, why don't you guys fight it out for a change?" idea?
>>286208186>just sneaking around or being captured. And the second half of CA is mostly the heroes running for their lives because they can't compete. Agreed. One piece has the same problem but tried better solutions by having luffy not defeat his opponents but succeed at side but critical plot points like freeing prisoners, or retconning his power as not someone who is physically strong, although he is, but how easy it is for him to strike alliances with powerful people.
>>286208067I’m pretty elitist. Not the “Mhmmm anything not seinen is shit” elitist (I went through that phase over a decade ago) but the “I’ve read and appreciate a lot and don’t discriminate but I’m not gonna jack off to popular battle shonen” elitist. I’ve been fairly critical of HunterXHunter in the past.But I can agree. I’m not sure if the current arc will encompass the DC when it’s all said and done, but I’d pretty easily put the whale arc as a top 3 battle Shonen arc, and as long as Togashi finishes and doesn’t fuck up, the best battle Shonen arc. Think I started watching anime in 1998? No other action Shonen has the same level of >interesting plot, entertaining fantasy aspects, ambition, complexity, refined elements of simplicity, pure fun, sociopolitical elements , etcThere’s others that have their fare share of it, like FMA, peak Gintama, etc, but none to this level. I like how there’s tons of sociopolitical depth but it’s not as beat on our heads like in the ant arc. But this all depends on how it plays out. Togashi can crash and burn from this point on and make this all moot.
>>286203471Who gives a fuckPassing is passing
>>286208308I always forget that training exists
Leorio is an emitter, which is the rarest type and they strongest nen type for a weaker opponent to use against a stronger opponent. People who think, "this guy sis strong! This guy is weak!" are forgetting the rock-paper-scissors aspect of fighting both in nen and in real martial arts. Looking weak and being easily underestimated is actually a BROKEN ability.
>>286209719>emitter, which is the rarest type2nd most common, according to Morena's research.And while she admits it's not perfectly accurate, the fact that she has a Dogman who can sniff people's categories means she probably has a very large sample size.A sample size of at least 9000 since she's confirmed to know about 3 specialists (herself, Chrollo, and Borksen).
>>286203471Hunters use all kinds of skills to achieve all kinds of goals.Gathering allies is a skill.
>>286203471It's funny you say this when Leorio has shown to be the best among them along with Killua.First of all, he's not physically weak like most people think. Yeah he struggled with the marathon but still ended it. Later he shows his strength at the Killua house gates too (I think this was cut from the anime).But other than that, he has a pure heart and easily makes connections with other people.During Yorkshin arc he's the most rational of the protagonists and during the election arc he almost wins the whole elections and gains the respect of all the best hunters of the world.
