I don't recall seeing it.
>>286209264Is anon trying to have another pointless thread?
>>286209285This /a/, all threads are pointless.And if there was any sanity in this place, I would be split to /shou/nen and /sei/nen much like there is already /y/uri board
>>286209264yes - although maybe not exactly - this is very close to a living hold where the 2d animator traces the line, doesn't add movement exactly but lets the natural variation of tracing deliberately inexactly to provide a shimmer or vibration. In 3d I'm not sure how you'd do it - moving the eyes a tiny amount would look slightly different, and using a toon shader to make an outline and then varying the outline from frame to frame on the eyes would also be different and probably more work than in 2d. If you're asking 'can 3d do subtle movements' more generally, then of course it can, but it would look slightly different. There is of course a difference between the media.As a side, the anime 'vibrating eyes' trope is an interesting thing. It clearly imparts emotion, but I'm not sure it depicts anything that really happens in real life. If anyone disagrees I'd be interested to see footage from real life where someone does this, and it's not the eyelids twitching.
>>286209300>all anime and manga are shounen or seinen
>>286209368I think modern anime generally hate the vibrating eyes-trope, because they hate subtlety and want to exaggerate everything.It's funny modern animations have oversimplified character designs in order to make them more fluid to animate, but at the same time they stripped away all subtlety.
>>286209368You have autism.
>>286209368Isn't it meant to convey emotional distress or being on the verge of tears?That's what I would interpret it as.
>>286209490Yeah, I didn't mention shoujo and josei.I think there is actually five.>shounen = for kids and teenagers>seinen = for old men>shoujo = cute thing for young girls>josei = romance anime for old women>mina = cuck shit that tries to appeal to everyone
>>286209300This is the dumbest post I've read in at least a month.
>>286209505they should make the eyeball slowly rotate in its socket around the pupil axisit would be a cool effect
>>286209528what
>>286209520>>seinen = for old men>>josei = romance anime for old women
>>286209264I've been thinking about this recently on why still frames, or frames with just mouths moving in modern anime suck. It's because cels would add small subtle movements when they adjusted the frames. The eye framed added nice adjustments because there was still something to look at.Modern anime just feels so lifeless despite being animated 'more'
>>286209520You're still forgetting joji (precure) and danji (digimon)
>>286209300>/y/That's yaoi, though. You're thinking of /u/.
>>286209726don't tell him about denji and denpa
>>286209285It's a one discord server army trying to worsen /a/ even more.
>>286209264>>286209368They just draw two sets of eyes and it’s a two frame animation between them anons it’s the simplest thing you can possibly do Obviously this is possible via digital animation it’s even possible in 3d
>>286209368>I'm not sure it depicts anything that really happens in real lifeIt's a person on the verge of tears anon holy shit. The vibration is meant to emulate the light reflecting off overly shiny eyes.
>>286209499I don't know what it is about my post that makes you think that. I was just trying to answer OP's question for him.>>286209505Yes, pretty much. Not always 'on the verge of tears' but definitely tension. Sometimes it's repressed rage for example.>>286210327Yes this is what I meant when I said:>this is very close to a living hold where the 2d animator traces the line, doesn't add movement exactly but lets the natural variation of tracing deliberately inexactly to provide a shimmer or vibrationSometimes it's more than two frames. I don't know how you would do -exactly- this in 3d since tracing isn't a thing unless it's drawn.
>>286210375It isn't always a person on the verge of tears.
>>286209264Spoilers but I always thought https://youtu.be/bcvjitNFSkM?t=230 was really well done
>>286210456>/v/not really sure what you're trying to get at here
>>286210393>. I don't know how you would do -exactly- this in 3dYou do realize armatures can use constant motion?
>>286210456It feels like face is lacking emotions.I guess they didn't bother making more detailed model for cut scenes?
>>286210639No, I don't know what that means. Can you explain?
>>286209368what
>>286211372what
>>286211342So, in 3D animation, the movement is based around bones. Animators will move and rotate bones to different positions in different time codes, which form key frames. The software will automatically transition the movement between those key frames. But there are different types of transitions, linear (where the transition is smooth), exponential (where the movement starts slowly but becomes fast), circular (where the movement is slow in beginning and end). There is also a constant, where there are no frames generated, but the movement is instant.That's probably horrible way of explaining it.
>>286211474Thanks. I know all that - so what you're saying is that the bones they use to rig the eyes or eyelids will be moved ever so slightly so they can create a vibrating effect? And that whereas the eye vibrations in the OP and here >>286211372are probably on 2s (so 12fps assuming the frame rate is 24fps but idk if they're actually on 30fps but the principle is the same) so when they go for a similar effect on the eyes they do not interpolate the frames, which would make for a smoother movement, but use constant movement so as to make it appear like it's animated on 2s, so jerkier?That would produce a similar effect as in 2d - they might even mess with the reflection in the eye rather than the eye itself - but it won't be *exactly* the same as in 2d.In 2d it's movement but not just movement. The eyes or the eyelids can slightly change shape as well as position, and the details can change between the two frames. In the OP the eyelashes move and disappear. The difference can be the quality or width of the line and not just the position of the line.
>>286211941Yeah about right.
>>286209667Now you're just talking out of your ass.
>>286209300>>286209520>he thinks demographics define the series
>>286209667You can keep the face perfectly still while moving the mouth even in old-fashioned animation where they paint on cellophane. You don't have to repaint the whole image just to move one part. They'd use multiple layers.
>>286213743Kindaichi Case Files mentioned!
>>286217171Where?
>>286218542That's where the webm is from.
>>286209264It's just more expensive.
>>286209368Holy fucking SHIT anon, do you not look at people's eyes? Have you never not been angry or sad or extremely happy?
>>286211459in the butt
