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When Tohsaka?
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We should had Columbus to gain terrain buff
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If you say "humanity is lame" in the mirror 3 times at 3AM you can become a DA.
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Gil humiliation soon...
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>>286220779
Is there any issue with writing a Christian character who doesn't hide that he's a Christian to say, "If I ever get a chance to meet God, I'd love to tell Him how grateful I am face-to-face"?
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Haram
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>>286220863
MLschizos anon. They already cry about characters cucking them in gachas, especially male characters cucking their waifu. How do you think they would react if they were LITERALLY KEKED by god? It's hilarious

That being said, solomon and lev refer to god directly eg
>O' Heavenly Father, I return to you your blessings.
>Omnipotence is too much for humans to handle.
>My work shall be done within the limitations of Mankind.
>O Heavenly Father, have mercy on this Beast
etc
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I'll Die Defending Your Glory.
Your Chivalry's Not A Story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffE1-RTTpTE
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>>286220779
Columbus isn't American
Geronimo and Billy are
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>>286220857
I never understood this spam. He was 3v1ed by Alcides, Ishtar and Huwawa. How is this humiliation?
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>>286221189
>>286220863
I think part of the problems with servants though is that the metaphysical experience of getting your soul ripped out, copy, updated, and pasted into a homunculus might be rather disorientated on the whole God thing, even further considering the amount of divine spirits that exist, Alaya/Gaia, the Root, etc. The setting is a bit insane when it comes to that
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>>286221526
Plus pantheon gods being bacteria and robots and whatever else Nasu is smoking
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>>286221408
it's just bantz
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>>286221557
Yeah pretty much, every different pantheon had their own gods and gestalt entities and aliums and other shit. No doubt "God" and Jesus are real in the Nasuverse, but their exact nature probably isn't quite at the same level of omnipotence and I'm sure some heroic spirits either understand that or didn't have that much faith in them to begin with (like Columbus). Also the age of man began after the birth of Christ, just food for thought. It would be interesting if we were to see some of that in Nasu's stories but I doubt we'll ever get to that point. The will of Gaia/Alaya/the Root/VOID seem to be the closest thing to True Gods in the setting.
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Ayaka is by far the worst part of the story
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>>286221685
I like her. She's hot and quirky. And her relationship with Richard is really cute and heartwarming, and I say this as a heterosexual dude.
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>>286221685
I like her a lot more than Shirou and Guda and Sieg, but a lot less than Kerry so she's already ranked pretty high.
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>>286221685
Agreed, she's femceslop
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>>286221526
None of the Servants who bring up their religious beliefs indicate there's any sort of crisis of faith caused from the Servant systems. In fact when Higashide wrote Apo he outright had Vlad espouse the philosophical point that to a Christian any pagan divinity is essentially just a sufficiently powerful monster or wizard.
Regardless it just comes across as jarring when a character who is written to be a monotheist with a defined God they worship uses this vague language. Regardless of what the reader believes it's just immersion breaking to see these characters using this soft neutral language in matters such as faith.
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>>286221769
Shirou is kind of based as a protagonist though. How about compared to Waver?
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>>286221780
Higashide actually cares about those details. The same cannot be said about other writers
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>>286221780
Yeah I can understand that position, I suppose it might just be localization then or just the writer trying to not make any definite claims.
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>>286221780
>>286221826
You also have to consider that Nasu is the one who is in charge of lore. So his OCs are much more definitive about God being like this or that. The other authors don't know what new insane lore bomb the mushroom is going to drop and Nasu always writes the lore important and arc finishers and starters.
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>World's Most Elegant Hyena
Luviabros...
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>>286221769
Guda is based desu
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>>286221780
Isn't God basically the Root? Nasu's into that lifestream stuff.
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>>286221685
TRVTH NVKE
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>>286222102
At least use a Francois pic
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>>286221957
Am I supposed to know those names from somewhere?
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>>286221780
>Karl hates his fantasy side so much, he rips it off and it became sentient and is slowly dying
>gets beaten and joins the Extra team
>Hakuno and Karl gave Charlemagne power so he could help the FGO protag
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>>286221408
It's not like he was putting belt to ass on Alcides before Ishtar and Huwawa decided to jump so saying he got 1v3'd is a tad disingenuous and besides the reveal that Huwawa indirectly saved his life just made it worse. Saying he wasn't humiliated is the equivalent of saying he didn't lose to Shirou because >ehhh he was holding back!!!!
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>Richard and Arthur (Fire Force) in the same season
>Prelati and Kenjaku in the same season
Anything else?
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>>286222186
I certainly hope you recognize the names Flat and Sigma, considering what anime this thread's about.
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>>286222249
Alcides became stronger and he still couldn't touch Gil, bro.
If you don't want to count Ishtar and Huwawa helping him, then we should also agree that John beat Alcides?
>he didn't lose to Shirou
He did lose to Shirou. But like Alcides it was a 4v1.
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>>286222318
Anything what?
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>>286222382
>also agree that John beat Alcides?
Yes John won Alcides only survived thanks to BS plot armor
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stinky femcels need to die
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>>286222443
After they live a fulfilling loving life with me.
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Alcides? Gilgamesh? Richard? Glorified birds.
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>>286221189
>>286220863
It's not like God isn't mentioned in Fate, Columbus just used different wording here I guess
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>>286221680
>Also the age of man began after the birth of Christ
The Church is described as a "road map" to humanity's triumph. Whatever gods are and they do vary, the Abrahamic God is very much on humanity's side and has been helping for a long time.
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When are they showing Richard's real Excalibur
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>>286222513
Is this a joke or did you misunderstand how it works?
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>>286222545
It's a joke about his penis
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>>286222443
>stinky femcels need to die
Nah, their aroma is KINO
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>>286222581
Meh
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>>286222581
So uh...
Herk can use Nine Lives with anything, can he use it with his dick?
Lancelot's only D-Rank if he uses KoO on it.
I'd think Richard would burn his dick off if he uses it as Excalibur.
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THE STRONGEST
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>>286222496
Kirei is also Nasu's
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>>286222785
That chapter was written by Higashide
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This thread lacks the Emperor
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There SHOULD be an extended Femme Fatale route and adaptation.
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>>286223003
Only if it's animated by the guys who did the futa scene in Beat Angel Escalayer
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>>286222891
Higashide already wrote Vlad specifically saying "God," so it's fine
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>>286223067
those guys are probably dead or retire now at this point
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bros did you see what those little whores are wearing this time?
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>>286222488
This scene was so fucking kino I had chills, it almost made this game worth bothering with.
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>>286222780
Post the actual king.
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>>286220806
Being a vampire just seems like such a dead end in this universe. You have to live like a rat because if you get to strong the church starts sending Executors at you, and if you survive them and get TOOO strong the top tiers with a 100% win rate come after you.
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>>286223267
Illya needs to upgrade her sluttiness, she got nothing on Kuro's pasties or Miyu's string bikini.
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>>286223267
Where's Tine?
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>>286222438
that was bullshit but surviving gugalanna's attack by out-regenerating because of grail mud BS was worse
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Is there a more pathetic existence than being a gilcuck?
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>pepe
kill yourself /v/ggers
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>>286223612
Being a Jetcuck who jobbed to Invisible Air?
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>>286221957
I like that Rin become criminal to get the money for her magecraft.
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>>286220691
When is the next episode going to be released?
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>Invisible Air
Isnt that just normal air? You cant see air.
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>>286223388
You fool, Illya's slightly less lewd outfit symbolizing she's the most innocent is part of the appeal.
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>>286223734
Ultimate Mystery.
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>>286223373
>and if you survive them and get TOOO strong the top tiers with a 100% win rate come after you
Who? Surely you don't mind Heroic Spirits, because DAA beat the shit out of those on average.
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>>286223373
>if you get to strong the church starts sending Executors at you
We're literally told a rank VI DA in TsukiR when fully fed can kill any number of Executors. It doesn't matter if the Church sends Executors their way, they simply consume the entire city and move on.
Rank VII DA are flat out stated to be beyond the scope of any Executor to handle outside the monsters of the BA.
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>>286223743
That doesn't put money on the table, sweetheart.
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>>286222438
>John won
Required a 6v1 and Alcides not using any NPs whatsoever
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>>286223889
>doesn't count
Kek.
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>>286223951
>it doesn't count when Gil gets jumped
>it does count when Alcides gets jumped
kekaroooo
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Would it be more likely that Nicholas Flamel would get summoned as a Servant or would he still be around as some geriatric alchemist.
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>>286223845
at that level other DAs and DAAs start chasing your ass down too, you're not invincible, you've just made it out of the kiddie pool. Burial Agency + DAA are going to literaly delete you from existence, or maybe a Mage of exceptional prowess shows up and kills you just to prove a point like Lorelei
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>>286223972
I don't remember saying Gil won in any of his losses though. That's just you projecting.
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>>286222513
Ayaka's womb is not ready.
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>>286224084
>Alcides fights Jack
>Wins
>Alcides fights John, the other Musketeers, and Jack/Flat all at once
>They land a blow that should kill him but he has an NP for that
>He's fine, unhurt after his regeneration, and ready to keep fighting
>John and Jack crew are stunned and terrified, out of ways to fight him
>Alcides just brushes them off and walks away to fight Gil instead
Not seeing a win for John anon, Alcides even tells him he wasn't trying to kill him, just scouting his strength for later, and the real fight is with Gil
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>>286224076
You've just listed extremely rare individuals and cases that amount to like 7 people total. Probably a handful more but definitely not a lot.
Noel wanted to become a DA of rank IV or V because she will be set 'free' at that point.
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>>286222699
In mythology, Heracles was able to impregnate fifty women in a single night, while at the same time satisfying each of them thoroughly for hours. So, maybe.
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>>286224217
>free
free to get her skull crushed by the actual big leagues. Kiara Sesshoyin became a demon god and promptly realized she was nothing more than a big fish in a small pond all along, then signed on with the Burial Agency because she was completely out of her league against the DAA
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>>286223743
she is still dressing like a whore even if it's more innocent than the other two's
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>>286224157
>doesn't count
Yeah, yeah. For a guy who hates Gil, you sure like to use "their" excuses.
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>>286224267
>against the DAA
The DAA are what lives in the small pond she went back to. It's what is outside of that pond that terrified her.
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>>286224301
I just gave you an accurate blow by blow of the fight, proving Alcides didn't lose. He walked away stronger than ever while John and Jack could only seethe impotently that he was never really trying to kill them in the first place
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>>286224317
>The DAA are what lives in the small pond she went back to.
lol, lmao. Tell me you didn't read Tsuki:RE without telling me you didn't read it. The DAA are on a completely different level than Beasts and demon gods, they're the top of the verse
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>>286224267
Most DAA don't hunt down lower ranked DA.
And the Burial Agency is like 5 people with Ciel being the one most active.
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>>286224354
I know you're baiting but DAAs and True Demons like Kiara have been stated to be on the same level since MBAACC. Ciel stated the cessation of all life on the planet must have been the work of either a DAA-class vampire or an incarnated Demon.
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>>286224354
>top of the verse
Dies to Servantverse.
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>>286224217
Well what I'm getting at is that at that point when you become a rare being yourself, people much stronger than you are going to take an interest
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>>286224535
Just become the underling of a big DAA so you're under their protection. Then work your way from there.
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>>286222382
Gilbros...
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Lion vs Lion
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>>286224654
*smooch*
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>>286223640
Lancelot died to his own mana consumption and shit Master.
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>>286223373
>Top Tier with 100% WR
>Every Dead Apostle is literally too autistic to lose outside of getting ganged up on by test tube babies, freak gene mutants, literal God, and a rapist
The problem is reaching up in the tiers requires being a generation talent at No U-ing
>>286224076
There's actually so many left over people that as long as you control your feeding no one will ever actually care about your talents, and Magicians are likewise too delusional to target you because they have their own baggage. The top-tier of the Nasuverse live for themselves primarily
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Tsuki and fate are different timelines and don't make sense when mixed. Narita tries to do it anyway because he's Narita, but the moment you leave Snowfield the entire world falls apart. Vampires and christcucks in the fate timelines are never covered in detail but are guaranteed nowhere near as strong.
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Whipping it out infront of Hippolyta and just letting her do whatever she wants to it.
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>>286222488
>needs prep time and stances to use shitty Tsubame
Jets can use it on mid air without prep.
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>>286224354
>>286224456
The Nasuverse top tier goes
>Archetypes
>Magicians
>DAA
>Top tier Mages
Magicians can usually win outside of genuine aliums like Ort. I think Zelretch could beat Jupiter for instance
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>>286224798
I'd be happy to have a divorce. We get Tsuki and Mahoyo, you get Fate, the other Shiki, and the dog
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>>286224593
>be the underling of a temperamental lunatic who's rejection of humanity crystallized into super powers
>under their protection
More likely you'll just be in even more danger
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If Dead Apostles are these god tier, one man armies that can solo dozens of mages and church executioners and also casually beat servants, then why can Shiki beat them so easily?
The Mystic Eyes of Death give him a way to harm and kill them. But he's literally just a teenager with no martial training and a heart disease that prevents him from running too hard. How is he keeping up or even blitzing them in some cases?
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>>286224798
>Vampires and Christcucks
This is actually wrong, we see enough mentions of Dead Apostles in Fate between works and the interviews to know that more or less the only difference is that high tier DA's aren't organized and don't possess the same power to reject human history to the point of being immune to the counterforce. Christcucks are almost a 1-1, or even more powerful as human history is naturally affirmed through Alaya's dominance. Arcueid likely still exists, her sister and ape murder don't exist, and Zelretch isn't a vampire. Those are the main differences
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>>286224798
Narita does it because when he started, there was no divide and he can't walk it back now. Nasu invented the split and dropped it on the writing team when they were having pizza as a team at work one night, they were all flabbergasted because he'd never said anything like it before and when they reacted Nasu just laughed and asked to pass the pizza, while saying "oh but Narita can keep going Strange Fake can be special". Or when Hiroyama has said, more than once, that he comes up with wild ideas for Prisma Illya, and every single time Nasu just shrugs and goes "sure, go for it".

He just does it to fuck with them and troll. People think it's some great and well planned world with careful power scaling, complex metaphysics, and all that shit, but it's really whatever he thinks of in the moment and Nasu is perfectly happy to completely change something if he thinks he just found a better idea or doesn't like what he wrote before (or what somebody else wrote before), or because it sounds cool.

Which is why TM Lorefags are a joke. They care far more than Nasu ever will.
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>>286224933
Shiki and Ciel are anomalies, that's why they're so successful when scores of other people have failed.
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>>286224879
Alright, but we keep Arc and Ciel since they're servants in FGO.
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>>286224933
Shiki Tohno's demon blood makes him borderline superhuman like Ryougi, but the Tohno maintained a higher purity of demon blood and active demon hunting. Shiki basically has athlete-tier genes but for murdering monsters, the MEoDP just help a lot.
>tldr good genes and demon blood bullshit
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>>286224933
His clan.
It's been a while but weren't they feared by other demon hunters because they're still fully human and most likely going to turn on them because they just kill anything they deemed not human?
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>>286225009
>demon blood
wot? Damn, I guess I should go read Far Side after all
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>>286224954
Isn't all the big lore shit written by or assisted by Nasu or the lore bible he wrote?
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>>286224959
>Shiki and Ciel are anomalies, that's why they're so successful when scores of other people have failed.
I'm asking WHY he's so fast. I know Ciel basically has a demigod body (wolverine tier regen + superhuman body + a shitton of mana circuits + church training), but what about Shiki? Yeah, he comes from a Demon Hunting family, but he never trained under them. He's just a normal kid. He's not even that athletic either because of his amneia.
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>>286225009
What? I thought their thing is just being pure killers?
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>>286225043
Schizo power. He just does shit and it works out because he thinks it will.
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>>286225009
Shiki is part demon? Since when?
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>>286225040
There's most likely something every writer can reference in, but the fact that all writers was shocked by Nasu separating the timeline meant it's never written or told to anybody beforehand.
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>>286224933
This is how I know you never touched Tsukihime and adjacent materials.
>But he's literally just a teenager with no martial training
The whole point of the Nanaya family is they were obsessed with killing non-humans to the point that's literally all they knew about, and as a result they kept living in the mountains away from civilization and were unable to incorporate themselves into society. All the other Demon Hunter families branched into different occupations other than demon-hunting, including the Ryougis. The Nanayas were the only ones that were left behind the times, and that's the only thing they knew.
With Nanaya Shiki being the masterpiece of the Nanaya family. He is a result of generations of inbreeding and he literally mastered the Nanaya martial arts of killing non-humans merely by watching his father train when he was 8. These skils usually only resurface when he is in near-death situations, or fighting non-human entities.
>and a heart disease that prevents him from running too hard
He doesn't. He has anemia because the guy is running off a fraction of his lifeforce for the majority of Tsukihime. Since when SHIKI pierced his chest in the past he also stole his lifeforce so Akiha is sharing part of her life with him.
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>>286224941
>Christcucks are almost a 1-1, or even more powerful
Nope. Narita directly stated in his twitter since DAs are powered up in FSF, the same goes for Executors:
https://x.com/ryohgo_narita/status/2012537911401681205
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Okay we are putting a moratorium on all Shkiki discussion until we figure out what the fuck demon blood means
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>>286225037
Essentially Japan pre some time had a BIG demon problem (as of KnK and Tsukihime) that led to crossbreeding in demon hunting families in order to gain an edge over the demons. This is why so many of these Japanese people in these stories are either psychic or have mystic eyes or have an absurd talent for magecraft beyond what they should be capable of as well as superhuman stats. Some of these sort of went into side business like the Ryougi (yakuza) or the Asagami but the Tohnos basically stayed autistic demon hunters. Demon Blood is also what makes Akiha act up if she doesn't get her fix or Azaka's pyrokinesis. Anyway, the Nanaya (Shiki's actual clan, I had forgotten) were rather gifted in the genes department when it came to that bullshit. So Shiki is basically a prodigious-tier murderer, and that's before he got the mystic eyes
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>>286225123
What do you mean? It just means they either ate demon and become part demon or breed with one, either accidentally or intentionally.
Though, is it Oni, or Demon?
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>>286225055
>>286225075
Oh you anons are right, this was from Kagetsu Tohya. Yeah, the Nanaya are basically just peak human murderhobos
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>>286224941
>Arcueid likely still exists
Likely only as the disembodied planet's soul. We're told worlds where Gaia manifests and worlds where Alaya is stable are mutually exclusive. We're also directly told an Archetype can only manifest via the planet imitating the prime species. And True Ancestors are only prime species in Tsukihime.
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>>286225123
Just means an ancestor fucked a demon anon, it's not that big of a deal. I was wrong earlier though, the Tohno did a lot of demon fucking which was why Akiha ended up needing crazy lifeforce transfer while the Nanaya (Shiki's original family) were just murderous gooners
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>True Ancestors are invincible nature spirits that govern the Earth and it's laws
>Also they were all killed by Arcueid in a blood frenzy
Great writing fellas
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>>286225204
Arcueid is the Earth.
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>>286225168
True Ancestors existed before Type-Moon got murdered by Zelretch
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>>286225140
>>286225183
It doesn't make sense for racist demon hunters, who kill demons on sight, to breed with demons.
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>>286225234
I hate title drops
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>>286225204
>Be Earth spirits
>Earth is chill but quite the temperamental mistress
>Decide fuck it, we must incarnate the Earth's will (Demiurge)
>surprised when the Demiurge throws a bitchfit over the flesh illusion
They had it coming
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>>286225204
True Ancestors weaken themselves because the longer they live the more power they need to use to keep surpressing their bloodlust.
When they can't they go into eternal slumber.
A True Ancestors' mind is usually too worn down to revive for this same reason.
If a True Ancestor doesn't care about their dress code and stops surpressing their bloodlust, then yeah, they're practically invincible.
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>>286225245
I mean that's basically what happened in Tokyo Ghoul. It's a proven strategy
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>>286225234
Yeah, but that doesn't mean they ever counted as prime species in Fate. An Archetype can only be born from the prime species.
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>>286225245
>Demons are rapist chuds running around making everything worse because they're just not human
>Your family is hunting them, rape them instead so that you can have strong offspring with magic without having to negotiate a shifty deal with backstabbing sorcerers
If you want magic it's either you suck off a magus or you suck off a demon, normies are a bit fucked unless they're just lucky or obsessive
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>>286224954
Fans always obsess over canon more than the creators and writers, a tale as old as time. TM basically breaks the 4th wall by openly acknowledging it with the kaleidoscope bullshit. Any spinoff made by anyone can be canon at the very least within its own timeline, nobody has to try to keep anything consistent. Still it makes sense the shit that happens in tsukihime couldn't happen in the same world as staynight.
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>>286225257
Likewise
>>286225332
Isn't Arcueid an artificial prime species instead of the natural prime species?
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>>286221957
>red evil
Rin.....
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>>286225344
Hell didn't they canonize all the doujins by saying that they're all pocket universes, even the naughty ones?
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I know Cu has Divinity so he can hurt Achilles but how does Gae Bolg behave on someone with Invincibility or something like that? Like if he didn’t have Divinity or some other type of it?
Would it stop functioning? Or magically curve all the way to hit the chink in the armor like Achilles’ heel or Siegfried’s back? And since it hits before being thrown would it deal full damage to Karna’s heart as some inside-out attack like Vlad’s impalation?
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>>286225402
Gae Bolg in the case of one having a weakspot would just curve or do its bullshit to hit. In the case of raw invincibility no dice I think
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>>286224933
>why can Shiki beat them so easily?
A lot of incest.
Ciel is the one who born really special.
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>>286225361
>Isn't Arcueid an artificial prime species instead of the natural prime species?
Artificial prime species still count as prime species, such as the AI humanity in OC3.
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>>286222512
We also now know that:
>Magecraft was built by Solomon with the Wisdom he got from God. This dealt a fatal blow to all other pantheons because magic stopped being an exclusive from them
>Grand Orders are vestige of the directives the descendant families from him received from God too. While the descendants choose how to fulfill them and means to do so, this fundamentally means the Mage Association shares the same roots as the Church.
The latter kind of explains why while Miracles and Prayers are different from chanting and magecraft, there is an intersection with a Church variant of Magecraft (which they refuse to call as such) and how efforts and Sacrament can bless people with capacity of miracles (like Risei’s efforts and dedication caused Kirei to be born with Magic Circuits)
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>>286225471
Why was Ciel so special?
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>>286225505
I thought magecraft already existed in the time before Solomon?
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>>286225517
Ciel a shit.
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>>286225037
Akiha explains in the Near Side in the original VNs that the Tohnos are a family with Demon Blood to go beyond human. Thing is Shiki, the MC, is a Nanaya that went full 100% pure-blooded human training to also go beyond their limits.
Tsukihime is basically those foils. Vampires with craving for blood from blood, the Tohno that risk going berserk from demon blood and the Nanaya that will crave to murder non-humans from their blood.
Everyone is struggling with their blood.
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>>286225590
I don't see Ciel struggling
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>>286225608
>>286225589
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>>286225608
Ciel struggles with muh guilt and...that's about it
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>>286225204
Arcueid was literally created as a weapon to hunt down berserker True Ancestors
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>>286225530
That was Magic. It’s kind of hard to discern because of translations and translators but it seems there was an intersection how they called that before and the distinction started as the Age of Gods declines.
The reason being while the mechanisms were different, Magic and Magecraft weren’t that different back then and in some circumstances, Magecraft can display equal to even superior power to Magic.
Kind of hard to explain but Magecraft is a more down to Earth process following steps while Magic skips to results. Magecraft is understandably looked down upon by most characters as a bootleg.
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>>286224933
the problem with Tohno Shiki people seems to forget is that his body and powers only work when the plot demands it because most of the times his body is a timebomb and he can't fight for long before fucking dying. Also his eyes have to be carefully dosed, or his brain will explode.
In every scenario he won't live long after the events of the game.
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>>286225784
he'll live long with len
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>>286225608
muh guilts, but there isn't insane mental illness along with it.
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>>286225168
Arcueid exists in Fate timelines, her third ascension in FGO is meant to be her.
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>>286225883
How is that possible when Roa still exists to tempt her into murdering her family?
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If shiki was in this war someone would have gotten raped by now.
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If xians are similar to DA's why won't the church or BA just invade that xian court or whatever?
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>>286225589
Shut up
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>>286225943
nta, but she is basically a what if Roa never fool her variant.
So, it's a mental gymnastic as to why Roa doesn't bother with Arc
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>>286224933
Shiki's opponents tend to underestimate him for being a human,so that gives him an opening,plus he unconciously can tap into Nanaya Assasination Arts because he learned from watching his dad train.
HIs fights tend to rely down to compatibility, situation, and luck.
For instance Nrvnqsr Chaos is powerful lore wise but his method of attack is sending his familiars to someone whose bloodline hunts down non-humans.Meanwhile someone like Vlov is weaker but his method of attacking plus him being a experienced knight makes him tougher for Shiki to fight.
Even Roa in the manga was fucking him up and could've kill him if he didn't started acting too smug.
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>>286225784
>his body and powers only work when the plot demands it
just like every other character in the nasuverse
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>>286225943
This Arc wasn't tricked by Roa and was raised as a princess instead, thats why her personality is way different too.
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>>286226047
average injury in nasu works.
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>>286225784
>>286226009
>>286226014
Shiki can really only tap into "le instincts" to move efficiently when fighting non-humans. He's kind of a jobber otherwise, because of getting murdered as a child and all. Even then, Shiki gasses out a lot faster than most other characters because of the whole brain frying from using MEoDP thing. I know people meme that he can kill Hercules but it's probably extremely unlikely that he can since his brain will probably explode from looking at half of an immortal god
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>>286226047
Yeah but she can't die so it's whatever
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>>286225608
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>>286225883
3rd Ascension AE is literally stated to be a what-if version that was specifically reconfigured to match Chaldea's system.
At no point is 3rd Ascension AE ever stated to be Fate Arcueid. That was something FGO fans headcanoned without any basis.
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>>286226115
eternal hymen breaking though.
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>>286226129
Kinky
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>>286226115
neither could Arcueid, Nero and Roa
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>>286226153
Eh,it's Ciel so it's whatever
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>>286224933
plot armor
don't take powerscaling seriously ever
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>>286226129
Modern Ciel wins here btw
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>>286225959
ayaka would be raped on the spot
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>>286226055
Zero and Stay Night are based for allowing Shirou and Kerry to use Avalon and just tank some horrific punishment. Should do that more often, though I know in Mahoyo Mountain-Chad gets fucked up
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>>286226286
It's funny because Rin was asking him if he is even human or a dead apostile at some points in Fate route when he survive bullshit like pic.
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>>286226269
She the Strongest
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What Dead Apostle rank is Jester? He seems around 4 and not any higher
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>>286226269
>>286226352
Hansa...
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>>286225754
It's basically like this:

>Age of Gods: Clerics with a side of sorcerer
>Age of Man: Wizards with a side of sorcerer
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>defeat arcueid
>She will be deleted
>She just leaves and that was it

T-true ancestors are powerful
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>>286226502
It do be like that sometimes fr fr
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Should I trust Aoko or Touko?
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>>286226567
Aoko is a pedo, so trust Aoko
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>>286226567
>Blue girl is red
>Red girl is blue
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>>286226567
Touko is a puppet, so trust Touko
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>>286225971
Because to begin with only a subsection them are actually comparable in nature o DAs, and furthermore, their organizational vision isn't literally to oppose human existence.

Like why in God's name would you be hunting tome xianxia hermit cultivating in the middle of bumfuck nowhere when you have bloodsucking serial killers constantly preying on your flock? The church already tolerates the Mage Association so long as it behaves, if one they they woke up and decided to clean house, they have a target much closer from where to begin.
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>>286226567
Neither, they're both a bad influence
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>>286226605
Executors hunt down Magi too so it's not like "muh human existence" is the only criterion
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>>286225067
>Schizo power. He just does shit and it works out because he thinks it will.
This but unironically. If you believe hard enough, then you can unironically become superhuman in the Nasuverse.
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>>286226567
Touko is a real G who stood up for Mikiya and Waver in their hour of need, and she was also a half-way decent adult figure who supported and was present for her Shiki.
Aoko is a shameless groomer and was probably drinking pina colada in some beach while her Shiki was getting skewered by vampires, catholics, and onis.

Sure, deep down Touko might be a psychopath who has a lethal trigger word, but you can easily bypass all of that by simply not being retarded. Ultimately, you can actually count on her.
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>>286225043
>>286226774
Shiki's also got good genes and a couple hundred years of demon hunting inbreeding to murder with
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>>286226804
>Touko is a real G
>Abandons all of her familiars
>Blatantly psychopathic and unhinged
>Only helps Mikiya and Waver because she gets something out of it or because it's interesting
Aoko might be a groomer who we don't see enough of to render any judgement on her bad behavior, but she's another unhinged psycho who just sort of rolls with the punches.
Sort of a living life freely versus a planning out your life perspective.
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>>286226567
Touko,Aoko's experience as a reliable person are lacking when she leaves a kid with the power to kill anything to figure shit on their own with MAYBE checking in once or twice without them knowing,
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>>286226867
>when she leaves a kid with the power to kill anything to figure shit on their own
Pshh, what's the worst that can happen, really? I mean, what are the odds!?
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>>286226867
>>286226900
Did Aoko unintentionally sponsor the rape of women?
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>>286226774
Sacchin...
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>>286221189
You might be schizophrenic
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>>286226844
>who we don't see enough of to render any judgement on her bad behavior
bro we have all of Mahoyo to see what she's like
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>>286226932
>unintentionally
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>>286226956
Aoko's only real terrible behavior is being reckless and irresponsible, she seems like a good girl otherwise.
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>>286226932
>Unintentionally
Anon, shall I refer you to the tale of Hikaru Genji?

They're necessary steps. It's all part of the plan.
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Tine
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>>286223845
Roa was a top rank DAA, he was killed at least 16 or 17 times. You aren't invincible.
Sometimes Arc just kills DAA for fun when she sees them, like Nero. Nero is a tier 10 DAA, he got killed by a kid with a fruit knife.

No tier 7 and above aren't "untouchable by all things"
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>>286226973
>>286227005
My god, I finally understand it.
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>>286227020
Gilgamesh...
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>>286226867
I want to fuck Touko so good that all her future incarnations are mindbroken into craving my dick
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>>286226322
I heard this manga adaptation turns Shirou into a Baki character with how jacked he gets, how much is that true?
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>>286227169
You tell me.
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>>286227186
What the fuck, Shirou in the bottom right straight up looks like Guts.
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>>286227186
>>286227226
Bottom right dude is more young Kirei than Shirou
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>>286227155
AND GAY MEN!
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>>286225971
Xian are still part of human order. And it's less Xian being similar to DAs, and more Hinako/ Yu displaying bloodsucking, akin to DAs/ vampires. It's a very shallow comparison that FGO writers themselves can't quite collectively agree and at best you have CF writer sort of trying to patchwork that shit into the larger lore.
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>>286227186
Unlimited Initiation Works...
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>>286227365
He was struggling against the mud in that scene.
Otherwise, he looks rather normal.
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>>286227186
This Shirou could shove all 3 versions of himself from the vn into a locker
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>>286227186
Madness Enhancement?
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>>286227020
>>286227088
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>>286227444
>>286227463
To be fair, Miyuverse Archer Shirou, Archer, and HF Shirou is fucking JACKED
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>>286224332
Explain >>286224766
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>>286225402
Gae Bolg can only be used by Cu anyway. As long as you have Divinity, you can hit Achilles with anything.
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>>286227444
>EOPs never will finish reading the manga because there is no full translation
>I got the full translation here in Brazil in print
>It is actually the fourth route and quite good and way better than deen anime

Mangachads won
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>>286227749
Sem vergonha
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>>286227749
>fourth route
>Fate route, but with some element mixed in
It's basically Deen anyway. The English translation is already at Archer killing Caster anyway.
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>>286227749
Baseado mano
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>>286227793
I mean Gil.
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>>286227793
No, it is like 60% Fate, 30% UBW middle and 10% HF with Shinji stuff.

Way better than normal Fate route, also the mud effects on Shirou is drawn way cooler than the VN or anime.

It literally hell itself
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>>286227885
Dumb Kohaku,needs correction
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>>286227944
Yeah rape correction
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>>286227885
Honestly, that was the problem with mud scene in Fate route.
the horror was only described in words, but it should have been shown.
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>>286227984
Makihisa...
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>>286226014
the other Shiki doesn't, Shirou dies not because magic overuse but for getting betrayed (at least that is what Archer said), Mountain man died because Touko killed him, not for using his moves.
We don't know how Hakuno (real) died and Gudas will have boring life eventually and die of old age because they are ''normal people''
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>>286228303
>Shirou dies not because magic overuse
It can make him become black which is worse than death
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>>286228379
why isn't there a reversion of that yet?
Avalon should have made him blond.
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Is mage pussy just better?
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>>286228303
Why does Shirou turn black from "oh my magic" while no other character turns black?
>>286228379
But you get sick ass NTR gyaru hair and become cool?
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GilCHAD won.
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>>286226567
One wanted to steal Lev's money. The other killed Prelati over and over again. Choose between certain financial ruin and dying wisely.
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>>286220691
I just want to point out that image may be a bit misleading. Sigma is nowhere near near Assassin's height. Just had to make sure people don't think he is not short.
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>>286228821
>Dealing with a neurotic woman who's likely plotting several murders
Yes, but they're all basically mini-Ishtar if you don't roll your a Rin
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>>286228829
Kiritsugu also turns black in his hypothetical counter guardian timeline.
I think Sieg did as well but it could be him looking closer to Siegfried.
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>>286228821
I TOLD YOU ABOUT MAGE PUSSY BRO
I TOLD YOU DOG
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>>286229017
Makes sense I guess, but Miyu-Shirou becomes black-ish from overusing his magic too. I guess it's just a counter-guardian thing then
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>>286224933
Japanese teenager > demigods, godlike vampires, ayylmaos
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>>286229101
Would Shiki get diffed by literal Ayys like ORT though?
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>>286227944
Didn't feel for Kohaku nearly as much as Akiha during her ending, where she's mind broken and Shiki is resigned to be her "caregiver" even though it's killing him. Genuinely depressing.
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>>286229145
Probably, how is ORT in relation to the Root, anyway? Zeltrech fought off Type-Moon with Magic.
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>>286229173
He fought the Type Moon (heh) and it took so much out of him that even with infinite magic and immortality he's stuck as an old man. That's the stress it put on him. For ORT, just throwing infinite energy at it won't work, you need to first impose the concept of death on it
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>>286228932
Sometimes Sigma looks like a shota and sometimes like an older teen.
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>>286229173
ORT is probably deeper in the Root psychosis than Type Moon was. Type Moon is sort of Earthling-adjacent whereas ORT has a fully realized reality marble always on around it actively rewriting the Earth. As to why ORT answered the call early, Nasu doesn't really speak about it but it's clearly not malicious. Given that it has some super-tier adaptation it's level of mystery going on is probably higher than real magic. It'd likely be worshipped as a God if it had come any later.
>>286229233
He also falls into becoming a Dead Apostle in like half the timelines, Archetypes are pretty strong and it seems the more dissimilar they are to Earth the more powerful they get. Though we've only ever truly seen Venus, ORT, and glances of Type-Moon.
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There's actually multiple roots out there. Each celestial object has its own universe inside it, and with it, their own root.

fgo explained this
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>>286229427
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fgo explained this
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>>286229479
cope chud. that's the main franchise right now. and the only one that matters.
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>>286229427
>>286229498
How is it possible for FGO to explain it when FGO reset the universe because it was a fake universe for some mage's experiements
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>>286229547
Just because it was fake doesn't mean it didn't follow the same laws as the real one. That mage created a copy of the earth's soul and from it emerged its own root. With this information we can infer that all celestial bodies have their own root inside of them.
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>>286229302
We do know that Type Jupiter is easy to kill. Gun God is a Chad
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>>286229547
Don't forget that Sanda made it so the Chinese can just make their own version of the Root, so there's precedent. Boycott anything associated with him
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>>286229629
W-what the fuck is this?
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>>286229164
Kohaku didn't do much for me honestly but Akiha was neat,easily my favorite heroine from Far Side.
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>>286229666
>Boycott anything associated with him
Might as well boycott the whole of type moon at this point since nasu lets him be the lorekeeper.
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>>286229686
Takeuchi needs to tardwrangle nasu harder
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>>286229684
Fujo crack ship
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>>286225883
>Arcueid
Reminder that the model used as a reference for Arc is Canadian, pic related is what she looks like now.
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>>286229629
There’s going to be more art of this in season 2 is my guess.
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>>286229716
I think she cosplayed as her in a recent photo aswell
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>>286229684
It's peak
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>>286229302
>Though we've only ever truly seen Venus, ORT, and glances of Type-Moon.
Mars as well.
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>>286229734
Yep. Pic.
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>>286229745
Inaho.
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>>286229017
Xylo?!
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>>286229760
eggs
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>>286229761
FORBARTZ
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>>286229716
Archetype Earth
>>286229757
Funny Vamp
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>>286229629
>>286229684
Gilgamesh, don't look
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>>286229744
I didn't recall that one
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>>286229684
Stolen from right under Gil's nose
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>>286229804
Nasu decided to reveal it in FGO. Type Mars is a Liz.
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>>286229757
don't check her twitter account location
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>>286229650
Sort of makes sense, Jupiter protects the Earth from asteroids and comets so it would not be very threatening to humanity
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>>286229820
Truly the Mushroom cannot help but ruin his own lore, even if it was a for fun event.
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>>286229820
MATHMAN DON'T LOOK
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>>286229629
SEEEIIBBBAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>286229629
Gomen Ayaka...
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Gil deserved it
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>>286229863
They keep calling this guy the strongest but he keeps losing
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What are some Type Moon characters healing Matou Rin like?
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>>286229950
>ubw movie
Deen artstyle was the best. It had that old visual novel feel. The movie was a big upgrade in animation over the 2006 anime. Shirou Vs Archer is fucking kino
https://youtu.be/rtuobBa46S0
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>>286230072
>DEEN Shirou Vs. Archer
Yeah that was nice unlike ufo ver. which was just talking and talking non-stop
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>>286229950
Shirou is a faggot for not bringing Rin along to Avalon.
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>>286230072
yeah i like it too
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Femme Fatale Rin would be more of a whore than Sakura, she would be as hot as the female protags in h-games that go the slums first thing in the morning.
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Why are the character designs in FSF look so pointy?
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this is the first time I hear Hanakana voicing in a Fate anime. It took a while to realize since I havent hear her much lately.
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>>286230210
Morii
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I started Last Encore yesterday cause of all the Neroposting, i'm 2 episodes in and i can see the appeal
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>>286229863
Blonde Roa
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In a no holds barred death duel, could Gil beat Enkidu
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>>286230254
Don't look at her toes...
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>>286230389
An alive stronger Gilgamesh tied with Enkidu so no. A tie is the only result Servant gil can hope to achieve
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>Mahoyo release this year
You people were doubting?
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Congrats Maho fags
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>>286223267
Jesus Christ I hate Miyu. illya needs to let Darius have her.
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>>286224954
This is borderline Lucasesque.
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>>286230612
Now, release Fate Extra Record!
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>>286230774
never
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>>286230779
But why?!?
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> Heavens Feel movies were roughly five years ago
> SSDs, RAM, DVDs and Blu Rays are disappearing
> Turning 30
So old
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>>286230273
I see it too
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What if Zouken just stole an Einzbern homunculus and wormed it to deal with his Justeaze issues?
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>>286230832
Zouken issue isn't that he is a simp.
His issue is that he forgot he was a simp for Homunculus pussy.
Would have Sakura the troubles if he still remembered.
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>>286230788

You're getting old

2000-12-29 Tsukihime
2001-08-13 Kagetsu Tohya
2002-12-30 Melty Blood

2004-01-30 Fate/stay night (Game)
2005-10-28 Fate/hollow ataraxia
2006-01-07 Fate/stay night (Anime)
2006-12-29 Fate/Zero (Light Novel)
2007-04-19 Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua] PS2
2007-09-26 Fate/kaleid liner PrismaIllya (Manga)
2008-06-11 Fate/unlimited codes
2008-08-22 Sound Drama Fate/Zero
2008-08-28 Fate/tiger colosseum UPPER
2009-01-21 (Included with TYPE-MOON Ace Vol. 2) Fate/strange Fake
2010-07-22 Fate/EXTRA
2011-08-14 Carnival Phantasm
2011-10-02 Fate/Zero (Anime)

2012-04-12 Witch on the Holy Night [First Press Edition]
2012-08-10 Witch on the Holy Night

2013-03-28 Fate/EXTRA CCC
2014-07-10 Fate/kaleid liner PrismaIllya 2wei!
2014-10-04 Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works]
2015-01-10 Fate/strange Fake
2015-07-30 Fate/Grand Order
2016-11-10 Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star
2017-10-14 Fate/stay night [Heaven's Feel]
2018-06-07 Fate/EXTELLA LINK

2021-08-26 TSUKIHIME -A piece of blue glass moon-
2021-09-30 MELTY BLOOD: TYPE LUMINA
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>>286230788
I don't miss burning CD.
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>>286228932
>Those bony hag fingers
Damn, that's your arab waif?
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>>286230965
Imagine the handjobs.....
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>still no one writes about the first 3 HFWs
We got some fragments of the 3rd already, enough to write a light novel
The 1st would be cool too. To see Zouken, Nagato and Justeaze trio.
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>>286230788
don't worry after you are over 30 for a while it will become the new normal
>>286230622
congrats maho fags, genshin defeated... for now...
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>>286230812
Peak character design
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>>286229034
>that new trailer
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>>286230912
I don't miss dialup
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>>286231101
>first HGW fizzles out ebcause they don't summon enough servants
>HF reveals gilgamesh is worth 5 servant souls (7 needed to enact heaven's feel)
why don't they just summon two high-grade heroes and immediately CS suicide them?
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>>286231269
That violates the spirit of the grail war
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>>286229059
My Goddess can't be this cute.
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>>286226774
However, Kouma still thinks Shiki's biological father was more scary and unfortunately, for Shiki, he never got a chance to be trained by his biological father.
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>FSF anime airing right now
>Mahoyo movie later this year
>Extra Record coming out this year too
TM won bigly
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>>286231412
>Extra Record coming out this year too
Not even you believe that
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>>286231269
First didn’t work because everyone died. Same as second.
They need *someone* alive among participante to activate the Heaven’s Feel. Which is why the Einzberns have been repeatedly learning and rule breaking since then.
The First one is THE war they should have enough servants since the Three Families only started bringing outsiders to fill the slots by the Second. Meaning they ran out of branch families or backup heirs… or a main heir died and a branch family of one of them took head.
The Second one also had full requirements as the main problem no one could complain was the the outsiders they invited deployed their servants to kill off the Masters instead. But since this caused the HGW to finish in record time, they didn’t put a ban on master killing and seemingly encouraged it.
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>>286231412
>>Extra Record coming out this year too
Real or cope?
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>>286231451
They already said it's coming out on spring this year
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>>286231462
>radio silence all year
It's gonna get delayed again and you know it
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>>286231269
Also
>why don't they just summon two high-grade heroes and immediately CS suicide them?
They seemingly didn’t know they could do the former and it became a War because they couldn’t agree the conditions on the latter:
>In HF, Illya is surprised and even tells Sakura she didn’t know how Sakura finished the worth of the missing servants after she killed Gilgamesh. This means none of the families knew there was such a huge quality difference between servants. At most, Zouken determined with Kojiro as the Assassin that this ritual was impossible but even that was because a Servant summoned another Servant. Mind you, the Einzberns tried to summon a god in the 3rd HGW but their intent was for Angra to insta-kill all masters to blitzpeed the war
>Rin and Illya tell us the Three Families meant to just suicide their servants straight away with the Makiri’s magecraft (Command Spella). The Three Families had infighting over their decisions and this is what lead them to repurposing the system into a deathmatch and adding all those failsafes to force the progression of the war. At very least they wanted the finest heroes and to minimize collateral damage, even if only for secrecy od the ritual and Mystery. But they all got more and more obsessed with actually winning over time.
Their goal was simple: reach the Root. They couldn’t agree even in that.
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>fgo part 2 ends underwhelmingly
>immediately start Aftertime ruining all emotional moments in the Final
>delay the actual content till June
>meanwhile Strange Fake is airing and Mahoyo is coming out soon
So this is the end for gacha shit
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>>286231542
Yeah this time for sure
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>>286231486
>All year
>Less than 2 months
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>>286231542
7 month delay on the gacha is normal. the reason why the chinese gachas have such insane production schedules and such huge teams working on it is that they are backed by the CCP in terms of huge amounts of government money.

>meanwhile Strange Fake is airing and Mahoyo is coming out soon
nasu likely considers fate and maho content fgo content anyway, since I'm sure that pretty much all of us who play it are hardcore tmfags who have been fans for more than ten years. TM fandom is aging, like 30-40 years old and it's not like back in f/z and ubw days where mainline funded the gacha, it's moved to the opposite way around where the gacha funds mainline.

they REALLY need FSF and maho to be successful or else when the gacha dies, fate will die and all the projects will be cancelled with it.
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>>286231620
Spring is around the corner we should've had at least a real release date by now. The delay announcement is coming I know you can feel it too
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>Fate Extra Record comming this Spring
What a time to be a Nerochad. We are so fucking back bros
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>>286231695
hopefully, there's been so many delays
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>>286231542
>>delay the actual content till June
FGO has had two chapters per year for a while now, it's not delayed it's just normal.
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>>286231682
when the economy is bad, like it is now currently, all the projects less likely to earn money get deprioritised which can indefinitely delay projects. at least TM still has a lot of money to swing around on risky stuff and they still operate like a doujin circle from the 2000s. and they are shielded from the economic reality by how successful they've been, but yeah....
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>>286231706
Cuties
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>>286231704
This time for sure
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>>286224933
Literal fucking cheats
sv_cheats 1
does not fucking count
Why the FUCK do retards keep brining him up in powerlevel discussions holy shit
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>the last shadow inside Richard might really be Saladin aka "the righteousness of faith"
KINO
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>>286231755
Crazy how this has gotten for so long that even bottom-tier chink gacha shit has better graphics these days.
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i still don't understand what the fuck watcher is
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>>286231612
>For 10 years, Sony was bank rolled by historical waifus and husbandos.
>For 10 years, they kept making fauxllywood games and ugly live service with ork looking characters
The HYPOCRISY
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>>286231885
A flying whale.
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>>286231885
Its someone who watch.
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>>286231974
SEX
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>>286231695
Nero's game is the best
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>>286231885
A cuckold, I thought?
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Gonna pick Redman first when Extra Record finally comes out
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>>286232276
I choose Tamamo not because it is easy
I choose Tamamo because it is hard
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any Tamamo likers here
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>>286232276
with hakunon right?
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>>286229302
>Type Moon is sort of Earthling-adjacent whereas ORT has a fully realized reality marble
Crimson Moon's Idea Blood and derived Principles are literally stated to be "impossible to perceive or understand with the kind of cognizance that uses theories and language".
It's basically the epitome of alien and beyond human understanding. ORT on the other hand we're literally told humanity will fully grasps it's mechanics by the year 3000 and ORT's mechanism for generating energy is fully understood since it's just nuclear fusion.
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>>286232335
playable shinji mc
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>Mahoyo date
Not the type I was expecting since these often get delayed but it's good
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>>286226774
>This but unironically. If you believe hard enough, then you can unironically become superhuman in the Nasuverse.
It is basically Matrix logic. In the TypeMoon universe Earth basically is empty rock and all the life on it are just part of Earth's Layers of "reality". So basically it is all a giant planet wide simulation. So all the "strong will" and shit can bend reality because reality isn't real to begin with.
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>>286231872
Samurai Remnant looked ok. I mean musou games usually have shit graphics.
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i really liked the sprite art. I wished it wasn't musou like tho
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>>286226774
>you can unironically become superhuman in the Nasuverse.
Archer has this mantra, and he is still a mid-tier servant.
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>>286226774
>>286232476
Yeah, Marble Phantasm is literally stated to be the power to bend the world itself through sheer willpower:
>In addition, the power of their will is enough to take actual form, meaning that the thoughts of the True Ancestor becomes a weapon on its own, influencing even the world itself.
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>>286231974
I love her so much.
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>>286232579
to be fair, True ancestor are special.
Otherwise, every autists can just bend reality.
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Anybody know if Sanda has ever used Narita's characters aside from Flat? I heard that they talk to each other a lit.
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>>286232615
I don't think so.
Did Waver ever go to America?
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>>286232595
Normal people don't have a strong enough will. Arcueid wanted to feed Shiki blood so his 'will' could be strong enough to resist Roa even if Roa raged inside his head:
>My method is simply strengthening you. As long as your will is stronger than Roa's, then it doesn't matter how much he rages in you, right?"
>Certainly what she says might possibly stop Roa.
>But---a heart strong enough to resist these headaches means a heart that is so strong that it won't feel anything.
It's basically willpower taken to a supernatural degree.
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>>286232630
Would be nice to read about, for example, the Adventures gang running into Halri trying to destroy magic society in an universe where she wasn't part of the Grail War.
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>>286232721
It would be interesting to see the conclusion of her path without Ishtar's interference, yes.
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>>286232615
No, Sanda is too busy figuring out ways for Gray to solo Arcueid and ORT. Not a Mary Sue btw
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>>286232548
I mean he's a current day human squaring up to literal demigods, I'd say he did pretty good.
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>>286232595
There's a lot of characters who can do it in some manner, just nowhere near arc's level. Olga can act as a mini arc, the Reality Marble+++ variants like ars paulina, rhongo bongo pinning down textures, that variation on shell projection in CF, the mini scale reality warping that demon pillars have, temp shit like grand illusion, being able to TRACE ON specific shit that replicates the substance on a grand scale etc. Individually they are probably not as grand, but you only need one person to use their brain to end the world or warp it beyond recognition every saturday and one person using their brain to return the world to its original state every sunday. So many goddamn reality warpers.
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>>286232767
wonder why he doesn't have that defensive sword armor that Shirou have.
That shit was able to stop Rider weapon
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>>286232758
Starting to suspect that you're just a tsundere.
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>>286232815
Archer no longer has Avalon right? Maybe that's why
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>>286232820
Fucking ew
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>>286232548
Archer is a "mid-tier servant" because his appeal is that he is Fate's batman not because of his actual abilities
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>>286232815
That wasn't armor. That was UBW literally exploding out from within his body. He was replacing his body with swords
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>>286232820
Cute Gray.
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>>286232867
That's a product of his UBW.
Avalon just ensures that it heal correctly.
>>286232891
Yeah, I know, but it seems useful to have considering how it save his ass many times.
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>>286232815
That happens when he tries to go beyond his limits, which is just UBW literally exploding out of his body. He was so fucked up in HF because he was trying to access Archer's powers directly instead of slowly learning them like in UBW.
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>>286232906
It literally kills him lol
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>>286232893
If she were cute Waver would have fucked her already. Instead he calls her out for what she is- hideous
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>>286232916
and it saved his ass two other times like when Rider tried to stab his neck, or Gil using merodach to cut him.
It's a useful situational moves.
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>>286232930
Boo!
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>>286232930
Yeah, it's hilarious that he did that the first time they met and Reines thought they're roleplaying because Gray likes it.
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>>286232815
>>286232891
>>286232910
The Swords iirc were because he couldn't properly handle Archer's circuits and saint graph
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>>286232959
>Disgusting "woman" who likes being degraded
God Sanda is a fucking disaster
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>>286233028
The swords can still appear even without Archer influence.
Pic is an example when the swords shield Medusa's attack.
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>>286233031
I mean, she always hated it, but everyone else she knew loved it. If Waver was freaking out over her appearance, she was shocked by someone's first reaction to seeing her face being like that.
Also, everything been slowly but surely pointing out that even if the curse is lifted she might not get her original face back.
Which, and it is just a very big IF, may lead to,
>"I've Grown Accustomed to Your Face"
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>>286232820
I don't like Gray, felt like she only exists because every Fate work has to have a Saberface. Same with Hippolyta, no matter how they say she isn't a Saberface.
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>>286232779
>So many goddamn reality warpers.
But if reality is that Earth is devoid of life and that the world we know is just Earth's dream, then it makes sense that you can switch one illusion with another. The laws of physics are not actually real in the FATE universe.
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>>286233164
>felt like she only exists because every Fate work has to have a Saberface
Well it's true.
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>>286233105
I don't care what half assed excuse Sanda comes up with. She's not even a nothing character, she's objectively awful
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>>286233207
You haven't been taking your meds, have you Anon?
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>>286233272
She's literally invincible and everyone wants to fuck her besides Waver. I don't understand how you aren't getting this
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>>286233303
Your obsession is getting creepy.
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>>286233303
gil stop posting its ok if someone looks like ur waifu
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>>286233303
So????
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>>286233303
T. seething Sven after Ergo did O muh Caliburn with Gray
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>>286233303
She's nowhere even near invincible. Where did you even pull that from? In terms of power rankings, I doubt she even hits the top 30.
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>>286233586
Rin Tohsaka is everywhere
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>>286233031
>>286233105
>>286233164
I don't like Gray but I kind of feel bad for the character since she's in a pretty bad place mentally and Waver extra doesn't help (despite trying, granted). That being said though, Seibah face needs to go, we need Arc and Ciel face, Toukoface
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>>286233605
what if... everyone had their own face
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>>286233605
>Seibah face needs to go, we need Seibah and Seibah face, Rinface
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>>286233605
>Arcface
Saberface
>Cielface
Saberface but blue
>Toukoface
Rinface
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>>286233605
Remake Ciel is just blue Mash
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>>286233620
According to the laws of Nasuverse, taking someone else's face and turning into them is not a bug but a feature. Weird how many times that happens.
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>>286233586
Another Rin face
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>saberface
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>>286233790
that saber of red is so annoying
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>>286233659
Ayaca face
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>>286233659
At least Mash is unique ish. I don't mind more Mash
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>>286233620
Not possible
>>286233632
>>286233637
My queen Arc does not Siebah face most of the time. Touko doesn't look like Rin either, especially in KnK
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>check FSF thread
>No FSF discussion at all aside from the one shipperfag
>Rest of the thread is just talking about FGO and FSN
Maybe next week
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It's not even just about the face, but also about being not!Ayaka, not!Enkidu, not! Solomon, not!Solomon again, not!Artoria, not!Oberon etc
How do we stop literal identify fraud and skinwalkers?
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is gil an arcface like nero is a saberface?
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>>286233812
>that saber of red is so annoying
Don't badmouth Mordred, she's a cutie
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>>286233813
Is that Richard Tohno?
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>>286233865
New EP in ~10 minutes
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>>286233865
Gray is from CF
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.>>286233637
Why do people call Arcueid a “Saber face”? Her face honestly looks more similar to Gilgamesh.
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>>286233813
cute claekiha
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>>286233865
Episode isn't out yet, give it a bit.
>>286233866
We stop skinwalkers by forcing Takeuchi to look at Aryans until he gains a hyperfixation
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>>286233900
fem Giglamesh actually looks distinct
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>>286233900
Arc = Gil
Both are jobbers
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>>286233900
its more noticeable with modern day takeuchi art
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>>286233920
That reminds me, Gil has never gone yellow eyed (not counting Nebu). Even Ishtar and Enkidu go yellow eyed high power mode sometimes. I thought Grand Archer would do it since he isn't restricting his divinity in that form, but no.
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>>286233790
I love her
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>>286233900
>>286233919
>>286233920

Anyone who has played Tsukihime and Melty Blood would know this, but Archetype: Earth Arcueid’s personality, appearance, and overwhelming power are basically a perfect genderbent version of Gilgamesh.
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>>286233919
Fem gilgamesh looks like kurapika?
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This new Devil May Cry game looks fire
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>>286233919
mogged
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>>286233972
wtf I love gil now
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>>286233987
That is not Enhance
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>>286233920
>Mystic Eyes let her unga bunga with impunity
>Never used it
My wife... She isn't very smart is she?
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>>286233586
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>>286233972
Hime-sama's not as haughty and temperamental as Gil though. She acts a lot closer to caster Gil than archer Gil
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>>286233948
In 10 years the the lore powercreep gets bad enough again. Yellow eyed Gil is gonna be his serious serious mode
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>>286233990
loses by not having any personality
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>>286234023
I kinda hope Nasu does another A-rank holocaust. Include EX in that too. Average NP should be C and still be very strong. A for the top culture heroes, make the +++ actually a meaningful conditional (Excalibur's seals are good, for example) and save EX for the really weird stuff.
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>>286233836
People who say that Remake Ciel looks like Mash probably haven’t even played the game. They don’t look alike at all.
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>>286234023
The more power creep goes up, the more retarded Gil looks in UBW
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>>286234075
Because Mash has one of her eyes covered
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>>286221292
Columbus is more celebrated and well-known in the Americas than he is in Europe. The US was actually nearly named "Columbia" and was sometimes referred to by that name before the US was founded. Columbus Day is a federal holiday in the US and there are so many geographic features, towns, counties, institutions etc that bear his name that it is nearly ubiquitous in all 50 states.

It's not about where a hero is born, it's about where their legend is strongest. Columbus would be stronger anywhere in the Americas than Europe. Hell, there's a whole country named after him.
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>>286234075
You know what we need to? More Ryougi face. More Fujino face. Azaka is just Rin though
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Full metal alchemist
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this cop is so hot
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Is there any lore to why there is no false Saber
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was getting captured part of your plan?
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>>286234186
bro literally in the first fucking epsiode you absolute fucking speedwatching twatfuck
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Trick to Narita story is writing 30 people that could be the protaganist of their own story, and just have them fight it out
Never kill off anyone, and keep introducing characters every chapter
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>>286233900
Arc is more similar to Richard looks and personality wise.
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Stop introducing new characters, I can't keep track of the old ones already.
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Me and who
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They’ve ran out of manga at this point right? Still looks alright
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>>286231528
>Their goal was simple: reach the Root. They couldn’t agree even in that.
Ironically the Makiri (Matou) were in it to help Justeaze complete her life's work, the Einzberns just wanted to activate Heaven's Feel on a global scale to make all of humanity immortal and gain perfect bodies forever, which leaves only the Tohsakas... and the Tohsakas had no personal attachment to the 3rd Magic as an ambition, they just wanted to use the Grail to help develop their attempts at completing Zelretch's homework to degrade the 2nd magic to real, replicatable magecraft.
I think we can guess who it was that ruined the HGW.
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>>286234289
ye
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SUBS
DOKOOOOOOOOO
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>>286234278
there is literally no new characters in this 15 minutes
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>>286234289
It was never based the manga in the first place
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>>286234289
Yep they're out of manga to storyboard from but they still have the LN to work from
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>>286234156
John Strange Fake
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>>286234289
wait what
this is the final episode then?
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>>286234327
FSF is an LN with a manga adaptation. Just like all fate manga except turas realta, the updates are extremely slow and dead
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>>286234327
no, they were using the manga for storyboarding until episode 7 when they ran out of material. the novels have another 1-2 seasons of stuff.
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>>286234327
No the original is a LN, the anime overtook the manga last episode.
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harem
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>>286234374
OUR HEROES
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>>286231528
>Rin and Illya tell us the Three Families meant to just suicide their servants straight away with the Makiri’s magecraft (Command Spella).
Thought the Makiris supplied Command Spells only after the second war. Yet HF movie 3 shows us Zouken supplying it from the start. Was that a retcon?
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>>286234358
>>286234360
>>286234369
Naruhudo...
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>>286234443
kerberos looks pathetic..
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SUBS
WHEEEEEEENNNN
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>>286233920
Arc doesn't job as much.
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>>286234374
I’m really curious about how Hansa would react if she met the Ciel she admires.
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>>286234443
>jobkeros
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>>286234443
>4th or 5th design for fucking Cerberus
>doesn't even look like the labors one
what are they doing with this dog
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>>286233598
A weapon that eats any and all magical energy, it's also a spear that holds up the world and also has heroic spirits inside that protect her. Add to it that she has a Dragon Core, knows Magecraft from a fucking Dead Apostle Ancestor and can just casually tank Origin Bullets. But she's totally not a Mary Sue
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>>286234477
Cant wait
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>>286234495
Alcides' version of Cerberus is supposed to be different since Hades doesn't give him his blessing to summon it, but yeah it has way too many designs at this point lol
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>>286234379
LOVE PINKS
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this cutie shouldn't be in the frontline..
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>>286234500
anon, you are describing plot armor
gray bumbles around most of the time doing fuck all, barely managing to survive
she has little redeeming qualities besides uguu old man love
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>>286234472
Is Kirei stronger than him?
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>>286234539
>Cope
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>>286234533
If this was written by anyone other than Narita she would've 100% been the sacrificial lamb to up the stakes during the Zealot fight
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>>286234544
Remake Ciel > Zero Kirei > OG Ciel > Hansa > FSN kirei
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>>286234544
Zero Kirei? Definitely
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>>286234561
why is Remake Ciel so much stronger than OG?
What changed there?
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It feels like Gilgamesh might die soon (ep11 mabye?), and I’m so, so, so curious about how his fans are going to react.
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>>286234533
Look at that fucking chin. It could easily poke someone's eye out.
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>>286234577
She never has sex in the remake as it's not porn
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>>286234577
Burial agency as a whole gets wanked
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>>286234577
>why Remake Ciel stronger than OG
>what changed there
Nasu changed.
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>>286234561
>Zero Kirei > OG Ciel
Anon...
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>>286234578
They're going to cope that he was about to defeat Alcides (it was a stalemate)
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>>286234578
got a new form out of it was it was worth it
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>>286234578
I fucking hate this board sometimes, I miss when people at least spoilered their shit for fucks sake.
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>>286234617
It will only be worth it if the actually wins otherwise it's just the same old jobber gilgamesh with a new coat of pain
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>>286234622
6/10
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>>286234577
Remake Ciel is already set up very differently from the OG version, starting with her mana capacity. In the original, it was around 100, but in the Remake it’s been increased to about 250. On top of that, Remake Ciel created a form of Grand Magecraft by using the Idea Blood of the Dead Apostle Ancestors she defeated, which is a unique ability tied to them.

To keep it simple, rather than going into a long explanation, you could say that Remake Ciel is at least five times stronger than the OG Ciel.
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>>286234653
What?
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>>286234664
your bait rating
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>>286234443
dog use glasses
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>>286234677
I unironically had no idea he was going to die, what are you on about?
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>>286234500
It's actually not that overpowered nowadays. As in Nasu oc: can tank 7 supernovas, is like rhongo bongo equivalent, can incinerate the whole of human history, IM, ars paulina, can unsummon servants with beast authority, bag of holding type shiz, knows every type of magic despite most people only knowing one btw. It never ends, I bet there's internal competition to create the special-ist character
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>>286234561
>Zero Kirei > OG Ciel
I think the only reason Kirei could beat Ciel is a compatibility issue. Since Kirei's specialty is opening up people's trauma and Ciel has a very deep trauma, which is why Noel was able to cripple her by reliving it with her Mystic Eyes:
>Nasu-san CHECK!
>Ah. Rin has the better specs, but 80% of the time, Kotomine would win. It's not easy for humans to conquer trauma printed into them and what this fraud of a priest excels at is opening up the trauma of the enemy.
>Since Rin has the goof-up girl trait, she has a lot of traumatic experiences, and having these poked at would make her unable to take advantage of her true potential.... Of course, even if they didn't know each other, Rin would still have a hard time. The executor side of Kotomine, a combat expert with over 10 years of experiences in killing magi, would be the counter of Rin's talents.
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>>286234577
More gears, better magecraft, abilities from DAA she defeated
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>>286234578
I doubt it. We still have the Jack fight and Richard fight to get through first
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REEEEEEE
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>>286234708
>can tank 7 supernovas
He never tanked them. He merely redirected them and still got burned in the process.
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>>286234577
>>286234654
+_ She even showed monstrous power by using the Idea Blood she obtained from Be'ze, a Dead Apostle Ancestors, to split Souya City in two.

And the heavy weapon she uses, the Seventh Holy Scripture, has also been significantly upgraded.
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>>286234717
>>she has a lot of traumatic experiences, and having these poked at would make her unable to take advantage of her true potential
So anyone can beat RIn by reminding her of Sausage rolls' superiority.
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>>286234743
Powerlevels need a reset back to mainline level. I am not kidding.
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>>286234708
who are you talking about
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>>286234717
According to Nasu, Zero Kirei would need to have his Infinite Command Seals in order to defeat OG Ciel.
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>>286234802
Yeah, I think that also helps. Kotomine amped with Command Seals was stated to be on par with a Dead Apostle. So he would be able to keep up with Ciel for a bit.
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>>286234593
>Burial agency as a whole gets wanked

I don’t care that Burial Agency gets wanked, but why did Hansa suddenly say they needed to call in the Burial Agency when Jack awakened during the fight with Cerberus? What’s the point they’re not going to solve anything, right? I was reading the original and couldn’t make sense of it.
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>>286234778
After tsukihime RE got the powerlevel buffs, Nasu decided that the people who would be ranked below Arc and Mahoyo gang were Lev and Olga. Lev had the finale dedicated to wanking him and Olga had a detailed explanation of her powerlevels in her valentines scene.
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>>286234923
Because Jack turned into genuine Demon.
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>>286234967
So what do Demons have to do with the Burial Agency? They’re not vampires, right? Weren’t they supposed to be a group that only hunts vampires?
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>>286235018
>only hunts vampires
What? No, they hunt everything that threatens humanity.
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>>286235018
Demon hunter families are dead
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>>286235036

It doesn’t make any sense. Servants can threaten humans, so why don’t BA question them?
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>>286235077
Servants are just temporary familiars fighting under a controlled environment.
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>>286235077
Servants are a part of Alaya. DAs explicitly oppose Alaya
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>>286234428
Anybody knows?
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>still no subs
the fucks happening
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>>286234577
All the remake characters got powercreeped, from DAAs to Ciel
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>>286234302
Rinbris…
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>>286230788
>SSDs and RAM are disappearing
Wut?



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