Volume 45: Naruto ReturnsNaruto kikan!! (ナルト帰還!!)Chapter 423: Tendo's Ability!!Previous chapter: >>286219755Previous Volume: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285989361/Start: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504
>>286242269uhhhh mods?
>>286242193>>286242205>>286242276he must have really loved this one
>>286242529>>286242554There it is again. Kakashi's classic "Instantly teleport underground without any trace of a hole being dug" no Jutsu
>>286242624Kakashi has shadow clones buried for years all around key locations in the land of fire. It's the reason he always runs out of chakra so quickly.
>>286242682Wow! Hatake Kakashi is STRONG!
>>286242649>>286242682You know, if they really wanted to they could have snapped Pain in half with their insane strength. That much tension through a chain pulled by two giga fat asses would kill him
>>286242682how is kakashi so cool bros?
>>286242743This is like the third time this shit happened to Kakashi
>>286242472>>286242502Why even bother dodging those kunais.They are all cyborgs, those shouldn't hurt them.
>>286242554This is like the 3rd time Kakashi used this move.
>>286242831I just realized... Where are Gai and Lee? Shouldn't they be able to easily pulverize this mf with their speed boost?
>>286242743what is his face trying to convey?
Gai wouldn't have lost this fight btw.
B&W later
>>286242800>Whenever Naruto is not on screen, the other characters should be asking "Where's Naruto"
>>286242772>>286242831>>286242866>Off-screen no jutsu
>>286242772I remember the original translation was "c'mon.."Was much more badass made it seem like he was going to go all out. Then I saw this translation and realized it was saying it like "come on make it in time"
>>286242894Hatake Kakashi...
>>286242800>It's a Kakashi chapter
>>286242831Wtf happened.
>Kakashi tanks like 3 shinra tensei + other things while everyone else can only handle 1-2 attacks from Pain.Holy FUARK, Kekashi is durable.
>>286242395>>286242446Shout out to this random Akimichi that has no relation to Choji.
>>286242800Reminder that Tsunade wanted to call back Naruto before they could even fully train mergin'.
>>286242913tricked ;^)
>>286242743How does this keep happening when Kakashi's sharingan is supposed to give him precognition?
>>286242446>Should I inform them about our opponents blast attack?>>286242472>Nah
>>286242772Idiots can’t even hold the chain tight.
Where are the other shinobi?Surely, the leaf has more than a dozen chunin, right?
>>286242772You should've double tapped.
>>286242866>I know you’re not a doppelgangerOh NOW he’s certain?!
>>286243279They're all traitors hiding in a bunker with Danzo
>>286243279Everyone that's not Naruto is a complete and utter jobber. And Kakashi is only as strong as the current arc requires him to be for the narrative. Right now he needs to be weaker, so he is. Next arc he'll need to be stronger to further the narrative, so he will be. Everyone that's not Kakashi is an irredeemably weak jobber.Also Gai and Lee alone would end the arc too quickly, so they have to leave for now. Tsunade being so absolutely useless is horrendously bad writing though.
Would Pain have been defeated if Kakashi hit him?
>>286243279It's really the writing. Nobody has been built up other than Sasuke so far. What do you expect?
>>286243388He would have defeated 2/6 of the Pains, but not the one that resurrects the others so it doesn't matter.
>>286243379>LeeLol, lmao.
>>286242894EXIT
>>286243235yeah about thatHis sharingan is just cosmetic from now on.
>>2862434306 Gates Lee wouldn't beat Pain outright, but he'd do more than Kakashi, who was a cunthair away from killing 2/6 of them.
If Kakashi got this far just with minor back up, surely Danzo and Tsunade could've killed a few paths, no?
>>286243507>6 Gates Lee wouldn't beat Pain outright, but he'd do more than KakashiAnon...
Why aren't the akimichi shinobi bombarding the paths with butterfly mode?
>>286242772That would go through both of them. This jutsu's greatest strength is it's unrivaled piercing power.Both Pains would die here.
How would Shikamaru fare in this fight?
>>286243615Even he would fail to get past pains plot armor
rabu
Where's my Hero Gemma?
>>286243517>DanzoHe's busy being comically evil and doing nothing while Konoha burns to the ground so he can be Hokage of the ruined, genocided rubble or something.>TsunadeMost useless character of all time. Rich Man's Sakura.
>>286242707>>286242584why does kakashi need to close his non-sharingan eye?
>>286243706>he can be Hokage of the ruined, genocided rubble or something.not gonna lie that would be a fun alternative story
>>286242894>know painIn Japanese, does he say 痛み or ペイン or both in edgy furigana style?
>>286243706I remember reading that Kishi wanted to have Tsunade take some Pains out before Naruto arrived but ended up going against it. Would have been nice to see her actually live up to her title in some capacity. Even her actions now are useless since Pain just resurrects everyone.
>>286243706Ironically, Sakura has done more than Tsunade in this arc.
>>286242894>Know Painhow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>286242826They're not cyborgs, just corpses with a bunch of chakra receiver piercings
>>286243832>harder daddy
>>286243820Editor wanted Naruto to be the one having all the glory.And i get it, showing that Tsunade was capable of dealing with the threat just devalues the stakes.Too bad making everyone not do their best at taking the enemy also does that.
>>286243820>A woman being useful? Not in MY manga!
>>286242395>one single raiton doppelganger>half of his chakra goneWhat a fraud.
>>286242703Deepest lore
>>286243820>Even her actions now are useless since Pain just resurrects everyone.This has to be the worst plot resolution of all time. One of the core themes of Naruto is him refusing to kill people and perpetuate the cycle of hatred and violence. He's essentially at Ninja Jesus levels of "turn the other cheek". Pain destroyed his village and killed SCORES of his people, including Kakashi, and still refuses to kill Pain to end the cycle. It would have been interesting had Naruto simply come back to the village and told everyone "I let him go." to see their reaction. Because how do you resolve this? What do you do to an enemy that's killed so many people you care about? How do you answer the scores that lost their homes and loved ones?Thankfully, you just let the bad guy kill himself and undo all the damage he's done, and Yamato just rebuilds the entire village with his Wood-no-rebuild jutsu. No harm done, everyone's ok, it's all good.Naruto never has to actually deal with the ramifications of his actions, and all of his problems are still solved through death. Even in the fight against Kakuzu, Kishimoto had to leave him barely alive so Kakashi can be the one to get the kill. All to keep Naruto "pure" as all of his enemies die one way or another.
>>286242754Every time I see that page I think that's what they're going to do instead of just holding him down so Kakashi can use chidori
>>286242682>he hid this chain underground before his attackliterally how, please explain that to me
>>286244072The same way Naruto dug a tunnel to punch Neji in the chuunin exams.
>>2862428006th-sense-ruto
>>286242910Guy has to be away anytime a threat shows up so he doesn't solve everything
>>286242831>there are plenty of distinguished shinobi in the village of KonohaApparently not because Pain is strong enough to solo literally every single person not named Naruto at the same time.
>>286242193Nagato doesn't get praised enough for how strong he is, imagine multiboxing a fighting game with six different accounts, using a different fighter each that each needs specific inputs to pull off their own unique attacks/comboes.Just the awareness needed alone to split your consciousness across six different screens and process everything in real time is insane, let alone reacting quickly and appropriately to each situation.
>>286244112That left a hole in the dirt though, it was just temporarily obscured by dust.Kakashi keeps noclipping into the ground.
>>286242554How the fuck do ninjas dig underground
>>286244176Rinnegan seems to give you inherent mastery over the abilities it grants, so Nagato's basically just doing it all on muscle memory. All he really has to do is constantly mold and transfer his chakra. At least, I'm assuming so because Naruto in Six Paths Sage Mode gains instant mastery over other elements.
>>286243818Itami o shire, no katakana
>>286242682HOWHOWWWWWWWWWKISHIMOTOHOW DO YOU HIDE A BIG ASS CHAIN UNDERGROUND AROUND THE ENEMY WHILE THE ENEMY IS ALREADY THERE WATCHING YOU
>>286244011This has always been a major critique of Naruto, he's a ninja and glorifies being one despite always being against the flaws of the career yet he never really gets to face anything that really challenge his views on the shinobi beyond the things that will be easily fixable the moment he becomes the strongest in the world.
>>286242913"Not today, bitch!"
Amegakure is still a shithole btw.
Hiashi won.
>>286242916>Gai wouldn't have lost this fight btw.Pain would have needed at least 5 bodies against Guy.
>>286244246earth-bending-no-jutsu
>>286244176It's easy to forget because part 2 has so many uchiha wanking moments but it's funny how the only person to fully utilize the rinnegan's abilities was a non-uchiha. Obito couldn't use it for some reason despite having hashirama cells and both madara and sasuke never bothered to use most of it's paths.
>>286244477Basically, the gimmick rule that plagues Naruto's characters, that's Pain's schitck so other characters that aren't related or trained by him can't use it.
>>286243931Shadow clones take up a huge amount of chakra, its a forbidden jutsu after all. Naruto has large characters reserves thanks to nine tails
>>286244504It's funny that Sasuke's portrait never gets updated in those despite him being the most visually changing character in the part.
>>286244364In all honesty it's why the first arc set the table for what could have been something much greater.>naruto is facing off with haku>is outclassed but kurama bails him out>not really a victory he can hang his hat on, but he won and protected his team>haku pretty much telling naruto to kill him because that's how the ninja world works>naruto goes in for the kill and haku leaves to go die for zabusa insteadIn that moment, Naruto, in his first mission ever, was going to kill someone. If Haku hadn't moved, Naruto would have gotten his first kill and the whole arc would have come full circle. It would have made more narrative sense later on and given weight to everything Naruto did because he actually experienced the ninja world first hand. The missions of moral and ethical questionability, the killing of an enemy that could have been a friend.Instead Naruto gets bailed out of having to kill anyone, goes on to the Chunin exam where killing is still not required, goes on to fight Gaara who just becomes a friend after getting punched a few times, and never has another mission where he actually has to interact in the underhanded, ethically dubious subterfuge that is the ninja world. All of the enemies he fights either get killed by someone else or literally just kill themselves.Even in the final "war", they're fighting clones and zombies. Not real human beings with families and hopes of their own. Zombies of people practically begging them to kill them because they're already dead.Naruto only ever experienced the "cycle of hatred" second hand. He never had to directly contribute to it himself, which would have given him so much more weight and meaning when he actively fights against it.
Why didn't Choji go butterfly mode?
>>286244601No emotional trigger strong enough, yet.
>>286244554Konohamaru used them without issue for fun.
>>286244537Always hated this about Naruto, it makes sense with some stuff to be "secret" tech unique to a clan or a bloodline specific thing.But then you have stuff that could literally used by everyone and no one except that one gimmick character does it.For example, Chidori could be a base skill every ninja with lightning affinity could learn.
>>286243714go stand in a dark room, close one eye, and wait until the other adjusts. then flip the lights on and open both eyes. one eye is adjusted to light and the other to dark, so trying to see with both at the same time will fuck with your head. I did it once and had a headache for like an hour
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>>286244477Obito decided to give his six paths their bijus instead, and since that required too much effort to control he didn't use the rinnegan jutsu with them, meta reason probably being that Kishi didn't want to redo the pain fight and/or because it would be too OP like jinchuriki Obito with access to kamui
>>286244595Even the people that made Naruto suffer more than regular shunning don't get to coexist with him beyond a single day.Naruto's own friends also never get their shinobi unhingedness again beyond wanting Sasuke, which they will never get to accomplish because they are too weak.Unironically Boruto (unintentionally) challenged Naruto's morals more than anything in Kishimoto's work.
>>286244818Sakura's peak
>>286244756Chidori being rare makes sense because it's a high rank technique of an element that's very costful, but other techniques don't much excuse.
>>286244595the ultimate cause of this is Naruto is shonen. and not just shonen, but a JUMP shonen series. basically the Marvel of Japan. You simply can't have that level of moral ambiguity in a series meant for 11 year olds, ran in a magazine everyone and their mother is familiar with. if it ran in some obscure shonen publication or was a seinen series maybe it could've gone that route, but it's debatable Naruto would've even lasted long enough for it to matter if it wasn't JUMP.
>Kurenai being cucked out of being a good mentor because Kishimoto decided none of her students' gimmick would benefit from casting genjutsu.
>>286242826Those chakra rods could get damaged. And they could end up getting pinned etc.
>>286244930there's also the element of it being a blind charge that explicitly fucks your vision up because of the speed, and can only be used effectively by someone with Sharingan (and possibly Byakugan, though this isn't explored).
lõpu
>>286244595This theme really feels like the biggest wasted opportunity of NarutoIt feels like someone with Naurto's ideals should at some point seek to completely abolish or revamp the shinobi system instead of seeking to become the coolest most recognized ninja, because their main purpose is being tools for war and directly or indirectly causing sufferingMaybe if Akatsuki's master plan continued being to build ninja Outer Heaven instead of the Eye of the Moon Plan this could have been explored more
>>286244655Konohamaru is just this side of being a Mary Sue.
>>286243893It's almost like having the entire village get destroyed by 5 puppets and having the mc be the only one capable of stopping them was a terrible idea or something.
Naruhina shippers are more focused on whether or not both parties are good for each other. Meanwhile Narusaku and Sasunaru shippers only care about Naruto being good for the other, especially Sasunaru.
>>286244990>Hyuuga never given their own clan-specific genjutsu even though their kekkei genkai is practically tailor made for it
>>286245117>Hyuga get an ability that makes them better in melee combat>In a world with ninja magicSuch wasted potential.
>>286242800Chillruto
>>286242894Kek Kakashi
>>286242554this is Kakashi's really strongest technique lmao
>>286245158you can easily come up with unorthodox ways to give 'see and manipulate chakra' various types of jutsu. the problem was Kishi originally envisioned Team 10 and thus the byakugan as a taijutsu specialist team, so never bothered to do stuff with the byakugan besides having it be superpowered Tai Chi.
>>286244571Why are you spoilering it?
>>286242772a lesson in doubletapping your enemies, Pa Akamichi
>>286245263Team 3*
>>286242446Cheek tatoo jutsu?
>>286243592Then why didn't it?
>>286245328Pain BRAPped too hard and destroyed an entire cityblock with the pressure wave
>>286242554That top panel looks a bit goofy.
>>286243714To not mess up his brain I guess.
>>286242913>"Jokes on you, I'm into that shit!"
Wut
>>286244011I need to rewatch The Self-Made Hypocrite again
>>286242910Yamato, Anko and Sai were away from the village in a mission.
>>286243931to be fair it was a trap doppelganger which seems moderately more complex to setup compared to just pulling a log out of a hat.
>>286245158There's no reason that hyuuga can't also use ninjutsu as well we just don't see them doing so much. And you'd think using the gates would be easier for people who can perceive chakra lines but kishi only had that be lee and gai's thing for balancing.
>>286245512>AnkoYEAH FUCK EM UP DAREDEVIL
>>286242866>"I ain't touching that shit..."
>>286242894>"AIIIEEEEE NOT THE NAIL! BORUTO-SAMA TASKETE!"
>>286242193>>286242205I've always liked how the Japanese covers have the scroll in the corner with the volume number. The Viz one looks like total shit by comparison.
>>286245158>could have made them genjutsu specialists>could have made them healers through the gentle fist>could have made them support characters that power up their allies through their chakra points>could have made them sealers to help keep Naruto's kyuubi charka surpressed>could have made them weapon specialistsThere's genuinely so much interesting stuff they could've done with the Hyugas. It's a shame they were completely forgotten.
>>286245117>even though their kekkei genkai is practically tailor made for itWhy do you think that? I've always thought that thought that the Byakugan was supposed to be the more physical genjutsu while the Sharingan was spiritual or mental.
>>286245602Kishi overcorrected and gave us the goddamned Ootsutsukis as some bootleg consolation prize.
>>286242395> lightning style shadow doppelgangertell me this is a bad translation, because if it isn't are you telling me Naruto can just do picrel to win all his fights?> I'm half out of chakra and figured out some of their abilities but I won't just say what they areAt least Pain got something out of this conversation>>286242554Kakashi pulls this bugs bunny shit often enough that I'd have been okay with kishi retconning it to be kamui variation. Also why not pop out from behind instead of the front?>>286242682> Kakashi hid the chain while he was undergroundThey really do just make shit up as they go along. Also there is no way this pain body shouldn't simply be squeezed in half here.>>286242743>>286242772Um. This attack pierces gigantic boulders. Am I supposed to believe the robot Pain is just the right amount of density to be killed by a chidori, but now be fully pierced by it? Terrible. Villain plot armor is just as bad.>>286242866So...how did get go from Kakashi being in the middle of donutting this guy while he's tied up, to everyone being KO'd and Kakashi being comically buried up to his neck in rubble?Nevermind Pain suddenly knows how to tell what is and isn't a shadow clone.Nevermind Kakashi went the entire battle without using his instant-win technique once.People say this is peak.It is literally the exact same as every other part 2 fight so far.
>>286243931Please understand the sharingan drains him too much since he's a non-uchiha
>>286245641>Byakugan and 8 Trigrams technique specifically revolve around seeing and manipulating an opponent's chakra flow>genjutsu explicitly functions by manipulating and controlling an opponent's chakra flowit's a no-brainer that they should be able to hit someone's chakra points in such a way that it induces a genjutsu. there already are canon sight sound and smell-based genjutsu, why not a touch (or taste) one?
>>286245875What has he been using the sharingan for in this fight?
>>286245900Lightning Blade apparently
>>286244595Kishi probably wanted to do all that but his shitty editors pushed for Sasuke bullshit.
>>286242707all he had to do was use Kamui here btw
>>286242682200+ IQ
>>286245957That would destroy what charka he had THOUGH.
>>286243592>This jutsu's greatest strength is it's unrivaled piercing power.It's piercing power is at its max when moving at incredibly high speeds which Kakashi wasn't doing at the moment
>>286246042well clearly the lightning blade did that anyway, considering offscreen no jutsu...
>>286245900His sharingan is being used merely by having his eye open
>>286242894I could've tanked this btw.
>>286245670They got shinra tensei'd before Kakashi could finish stabbing.This fight is fine. Makes more sense than "good" fights like Neji vs Kido.
>>286246126>Makes more sense than "good" fights like Neji vs Kido.LolLmao
>>286244011They'd jail Pain anyway, not let him go.
>>286246091The suffering of chakralets.....
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BKTW9FCnrgs
>>286246151Yes. Right now the logical issues are "hey how did he hide that chain underground" or maybe "why is Shinra Tensei damage seemingly random? It sometimes oneshots, other times gets shrugged off" if we're pushing it.Neji spent the entire fight standing there letting Kido spam him even though he was able to cover the distance between him and Kido in a single jump while half dead. People praise that fight btw.
>>286245884>disable an opponent by making them vomit endlessly because you tricked them into thinking everything tastes and smells like ass
>>286245055>>286242922Arigatou, OP!
>>286246120Suigetsu...
>>286246238delightfully devilish
>>286246231Adrenaline.
Killer B replaces Kakashi in this fight, how does he fair?
>>286243279>Where are the other shinobi?Tsunade was relegated to healslut duty instead of fighting because it's written by KishiThe strongest shinobi in the village is Guy, and he was written out of this arc precisely because he'd solo all the Pains with the 8th gate Lee and Neji are out of the village with Guy tooHiashi was said to be away from the village too at this timeDanzo isn't fighting because he wants the village to get fucked so he can become HokageMost the Anbu are following Danzo's orders and are not helping
>>286242707>>286242743He could have used kamui on Tendo's head to instawin
>>286246369He just refused to do jackshit for this whole thingI think it's time to agree Kishimoto has a hard time writing fights. In fact I'm only excited for Sasuke vs the Kages and Naruto vs Pain.
>>286246428Kamui arbitrarily doesn't work on strong people otherwise they'd use it on Madara
>>286246385Neji and Hiashi honestly should have replaced the Akamichi for this. At least let them pretend to be impressive.Or better yet; have all of the hidden clans defeat a Pain instead of Konohamaru!
>>286246383>how does he fairPain would nuke the village if B was there
>>286246472>Neji and Hiashi honestly should have replaced the Akamichi for thisAnd take away the spotlight from a 10 team member? Can't have that.
>>286246231>Neji spent the entire fight standing there letting Kido spam him even though he was able to cover the distance between him and Kido in a single jump while half dead.No, he wasn't. Kidomaru was at a lengthy distance away and was constantly spamming knives and spiders at him.
Why are you still flooding these phony threads with posts when the site's traffic fell even further? I don't understand your motives.
>>286242682SMARTkashi
>>286244176I think he's rated pretty highly by the fans. Easily the strongest Akatsuki member (besides Tobi's Kamui hax), would have killed Naruto and Bee by himself in the war arc, and destroyed Konoha with just his Paths.
>>286246231>even though he was able to cover the distance between himNeji only does the once Kidomaru was injured from sending chakra to fuck up his organs. Otherwise Kidomaru would sniped Neji before he got to him.
>>286246569Last page has Neji blitz Kido as he falls. Meaning Neji could cover the entire radius in one second/jump. Meaning Neji could easily move around wildly and leave Kido's range/force him to follow him and reveal himself. Anything other than standing around and spinning while depleting your chakra, until you just oneshot the guy by holding on a thread for 1s. This fight is retarded.
>>286242772Ok, Kakashi has seemingly figured out how Pain's shinra tensei works, and now he's ran through the Asura Path. I'm really curious to see how the fight will conti->>286242866>offscreen shit againAnd people seriously praise this shitty arc as the peak of Naruto?
>>286246602meds
>>286246655>Meaning Neji could cover the entire radius in one second/jump. No, he couldn't. That's literally just your headcanon. He could only attack Kidomaru when he was falling down and semi paralyzed.
>>286244176>Nagato doesn't get praised enough for how strong he isStill lost to the Solo King.
>>286246654See >>286246655There's no point in standing around doing nothing and I'm pretty sure Neji could counter one arrow and then run out of the radius for a moment. Kido isn't a machinegun, he reloads. Counter once, then move.>>286246703He literally covered the distance before Kido fell to the ground. Badly written fight. I wont elaborate further. Kishimoto always sucked dick.
>>286242894NAILED
>>286246727>SeeWhat you said there was retarded as that other anon pointed out.
>>286243422cute and canon
>>286246663He had already lost when their plan failed. Pain is getting a 1 volume long fight, Kakashi is out of his depth.The Konoha invasion was rushed and more random jonins should've done things but Kakashi lasted exactly as long as he had to.
>>286246727Neji explicitly could not counter the arrow. his entire gamble was on baiting Kidomaru into thinking his blind spot was a weakness so Kidomaru would lower his guard and let Neji get close enough to hurt him. At multiple points Neji tried to just bum rush Kidomaru only for Kidomaru to counter him and keep him at a distance. Kido's techniques basically directly countered Neji's.
>>286246754>no counterpoint whatsoeverLiteral mouthbreathing retard.
>>286246680I'm serious, schizo. What's even the point of shitting out all these posts when it's obviously 100% fake?
>>286246798Neji was countering the arrows for the entire fight. Some landed but Neji was standing there, waiting for arrows, then spinning to deflect most of them with sometimes a failure. Then wait for the next round.There's no reason why Neji just waited for the next round instead of using that time to move around.
>>286246803>Literal mouthbreathing retardYou genuinely are yes. Why don't you actually read the stories you want to whine about?
>>286246602>noooo you can't talk about Naruto on a Saturday when most people are offWhy are you even here? All you do is complain.
>>286246854It's okay. I've already accepted your concession. Kishimoto is also thankful for your bold but hopeless attempt at defending his writing.
>>286246862The activity in this thread is straight up not possible. Just stop, dude.
>>286246844the little unguided kunai things, not the guided arrow that Kidomaru used at the end of the fight. Kishi had him spell it out for the morons in the audience that he could control the arrow precisely and make it travel down the blind spot cone no matter how Neji moved.
>>286246714Name one character Solo King doesn't solo?
>>286246844>instead of using that time to move aroundSpeedreader moment
>>286246934Hagoromo
>>286246935He's not moving out of the radius like he did by covering the Neji-Kido distance in one jump, he's turning his head to change where the blind spot is facing.By the way, the entire fight revolving around that blind spot was also retarded.>>286246926Yes. Neji stood in the center countering these retarded projectiles for 2 chapters.
>>286246969He just hits him with Totsuka Blade gg
>>286247003because if he tried to charge him, Kidomaru would attack from a different angle, forcing him to change focus and deflect them. Kidomaru also brought out the spider specifically to not give Neji time to rest and collect himself.
>>286246383>Killer B replaces Kakashi in this fight, how does he fair?Pain needs the big guns against him. Tendo and Asura by themselves won't be enough, unless Tendo hits him super duper hard somehow.
>>286247003>say he wasn't using that time to move around>get proven wrong >move the goalpostAh, it's the schizo. I understand now.
>>286244454Indeed I did. I was gifted with a daughter who does her utmost to honor our proud HOEga clan traditions! Hinata, on the other hand, is a terrible prude, loyal wife of the Hokage. What a disgrace...
>>286246428>He could have used kamui on Tendo's head to instawinYeah and then Tobi pops it back out and Nagato fixes the body.
>>286246714Not a fair argument because Itachi got GM items straight from the admins.
>>286247058Tendo Pain would need to lure B out the village to get closer to Nagato's body and then use chibaku tensei to trap him.
>>286246714>controlled by Kabuto>standing perfectly still
>>286247051None of these explanations make sense. Let me make things as simple as possible.Let's be generous and say Kido shoots once every 10s. Neji covered the distance between him and Kido in 2 top. If Neji runs for 5 seconds, he'd be vastly out of the radius and Kido would have to relocate to get back in range before shooting again. This would expose him or make things way harder.>spiderInsta jobbed and appeared AFTER Neji started standing around.>>286247073>you said "move" and Neji made 3 steps! I know you were referring to Neji covering the entire radius but I'll still pretend you're moving the goalposts!I'm talking with the Sasukejeet, am I? This is some whore tier level of pedantry
>>286246383Which Akatsuki members could have actually succesfully captured B?
>>286247175>Neji was able to cover the distance between himself and a paralyzed enemyWoah no way!
I give up. This is the sasukejeet. I've been fooled into wasting my time with him.
>>286247195Kisame alone nearly captured B. So him and Itachi. Pain and Konan.
>>286246230>>286245469Naruhina , but narusaku was hotter.
>>286247175Kidomaru was faster than Neji, more agile in the forest, and his toolkit revolved around precision aim at long range. he would move away and start firing at Neji again before he ever got close. and regardless, you're forgetting that Kidomaru's armour ability made him impervious to Gentle Fist anyway so even IF Neji got close he wouldn't be able to physically hurt him without catching him totally off-guard. which is what Neji's plan was. which is why he didn't bother trying to close the gap. and is why he allowed Kidomaru to think he got a grasp on the limits of his abilities. and why he allowed himself to get hit. try reading the fucking series before running your mouth wondering about things it already answered 20+ years ago.
>>286247195Deidara could kill him with C4. Not uh very useful and would get him killed in turn by Obito but he could do it if B doesn't figure out he needs to diffuse them.
>>286242800Why not tell the frog about rasenshuriken? He could give Naruto some pointers
>>286247308How? Sakura treated Naruto like shit.
>>286247356This would force Kido to move, which would allow Neji to know where he is, which is better than not knowing where he is.
>>286247383Because it wouldn't be a cool reveal in the fight for the reader.
>>286247439Neji already knew where he was, dolt, he could see him with byakugan. the issue was actually being able to close the distance, because Kidomaru's toolkit revolved around controlling distance whereas Neji had no answer to a ranger like that.
>>286247308When the hell did this happen ?? If this was presented in filler how do you its just what you fuck??
>>286247439Neji knew were he was as soon as he saw the spider thread on the arrow. Not knowing where he was never the issue it was not getting hit in his blindspot
>>286247356>>286247439That fight had some extremely retarded contrivances (golden armor) but at least we got to see what happened. We didn't cut away and suddenly Kidomaru is KOd with zero explanation.
>>286247467kill yourself
>>286246602>>286246820>>286246918Actual schizophrenia
>>286247528>When the hell did this happenIt's an edit
>>286247632Dont ever reply to him anon
>>286247560thisthe offscreening is actually awfullike just show Pain beating up the good guys for a panel, and show each blow that does them in
>>286247653My b
>>286247394I said it was hotter not that it was good.
>>286247195Hidan and Kakuzu.
>>286247653Or else what?
>>286247560the purpose of the fight was to see how Neji would deal with an opponent who hard-countered all of his kekkei genkai. in a just world, we would've also gotten a Sasuke v Lee fight that had the same element to it. (Sasuke's sharingan is useless against an opponent whose abilities are too fast to copy effectively)
>>286247807Sasuke would've killed Lee long before he could've used the gates.
They really should have let some of the stronger characters take down some Pains and then have the revival one do his thing.
>>286247922No, we need to show how useless and powerless the entire village is without Naruto.
For oldfags, how was the reveal of the rinnegan received by the fans? Was it seen as another asspulled superior eye even after Kishimoto spent so long wanking the sharingan?
>>286247922Don't have the revival thing or have them take out the revival path after noticing its ability so its an actual team effort.
>>286243855
>>286247535That was the end of the fight. Neji was already half dead. Kido put a string because it was the finisher. Neji had no idea where Kido was the entire fight.>>286247519See above>>286247560Kishimoto offscreens way too much but this one instance of Kakashi failing to clutch the win cutting to everyone being done makes perfect sense pacing wise. You've already seen the fight. What was skipped and implied was the Shinra Tensei koing everyone.
>>286247986the rinnegan is the progression of the sharingan
>>286247897Lee kicked Sasuke's teeth in with just the first gate.
>>286248072Neji can see chakra from a mile away. that's how the Byakugan works, if you forgot.
>>286248072Neji knew he was on the opposite end of the spider thread
>>286248095He couldn't even beat Gaara with that lmao
>>286248130The spider thread appeared when Neji was in this state. And he was still able to cover that distance half dead. Crazy shit.>>286248125Neji couldn't see Kidomaru for this entire fight.
>>286248089It's not a natural progression. You need Senju DNA to even unlock it.
>>286248232Even got the diagram. Kido is out of range.
>>286248232>And he was still able to cover that distance half deadGood thing Kidomaru was paralyzed otherwise Neji would've been in trouble.
>>286248072> What was skipped and implied was the Shinra Tensei koing everyone.Imagine if in a few chapters we got:> What was skipped was Naruto punching Pain. You already saw the fight, it was implied he just got hit by the rasengan and was KOdwhy excuse bad decisions for an old manga? What's in it for you?
>still 300 threads flooded with rajsuke low quality spam
In this volume.hinata dies??
>>286248256Why didn't Madara just rape multiple Senju women and steal their rinnegan eyes if they developed? That's what I would do.
>>286248366what?
>>286248354The difference is that Naruto putting the big finisher on Pain is the entire climax. In this case, the climax is pic related. If you cut right before Naruto lands his Rasengan on Tendo, you've lost the entire action scene. If you cut right before Kakashi gets Shinra Tensei'd, it's merely a dramatic "oh shit" skip.I could AI generate a page showing Tendo using his Shinra Tensei and knocking back the team and add it right before the cut to Naruto, and it wouldn't really add anything. In fact it'd make this sequence worse, honestly.
I love Naruto
>>286248186Guy didn't let him go past the third gate.
>>286248445By the way this is obviously different from something like pic related or the usual Kishimoto skips. We haven't got to see Juugo fight at all here. That's the difference. Nobody knows what happened here, there's no choreography. The choreography was shown in Kakashi's case.
>>286248381No
>>286248292>Kidomaru's assumptionyou mean the incorrect one that got him killed?
It's nice how chill the threads have been lately.
>286248504
>>286246432True but him not knowing where Kido was until the end was somewhat serviceable.People don't really care about the logic behind fights as long as the overall product is enjoyable.
>>286248656I completely agree. This fight is still good despite not making so much sense because there's a sense of progression and drama. What Kidomaru says is retarded ("hurr surely my arrow landed because of a 3° blind spot instead of anything else") but the fact he's doing some analyzing and taking you through it is entertaining.My point is that you can't really choose to praise this while also shitting on Kishimoto for Kakashi somehow putting a chain underground. These things never really made sense.
>>286247232Not him, but how long do you think it takes for someone to fall from a tree?
>286248504What got him killed was getting paralyzed allowing Neji to get to him unimpeded.
>>286242682I bet Shikamaru wouldn't have thought of this
>>286248764However long the author wants in his fictional story.
>>286248764don't expect an actual honest answer from rajsuke, he just wants to take these threads to 800
>>286242866How did the fat guys job offscreen? why?
>>286248875Fat guy got done in by the previous Shinra Tensei alongside everyone other than the last three
>>286247195More than likely all of them>but Sasuke beat Deidara who then lost to BeeThe Sasuke that fought Deidara had Orochimarus chakra/remains absorbed and had the curse mark and he *barely* got a win against an enemy he hard countered.Bee isn't a lightning style specialist, Deidara would fuck him up. Deidara admits Sasori is stronger than him, who cares about "muh feats", Sasori would beat him. Kisame beat him. Itachi would definitely beat him. Konan probably beats him unless his ink can act the same as Jiraiyas oil but Pain would probably back her up and that's an instant-win. Orochimaru would beat him since I feel like he would have been assigned to him if he didn't leave the group. Kakuzu beats him. The only one who doesn't beat him every single time is Hidan but I feel given the Yuugito off screen fight and how they confronted Fu Hidan/Kakuzu team up to capture the jinchuuriki instead of letting one person handle it like Sasori did with Deidara.
Shino wouldn't have jobbed.
>>286248970Oops, forgot Obito, but Obito very obviously beats him, even just with one MS.Zetsu isn't a fighter so he doesn't count.
>>286248970>and he *barely*Holy cope. Sasuke holding back since he just wanted info on Itachi and still mindbroke Deidara so bad he killed himself.
>>286248970>Kakuzu beats himlol jobuzu isn't beating anybody. You greatly overestimate his fodder elemental jutsu.
>>286248445This is such a bad example. The cutaway would work like you say if Kakashi won. Pain is not in a position to counter. He uses his hands any time he has to push something bigger than a shuriken away, and his hands are bound. It also doesn't make sense that the fatsos are KO'd but laying on top of random rubble while Kakashi is somehow buried up to his neck but conscious. There's no excusing it. Nobody thinks Choji is going to be the one to kill Pain, it's not the outcome of the fight that matters, it's how we get there. Otherwise there is no reason to have the fight at all.
>>286248970Disagree with all of those. You're vastly underestimating Bee.>DeidaraOkay. Deidara beats almost anyone.>SasoriBijuu dama'd to death. It's not even close.>KisameBee was nerfed. He had to protect his friend (which he did by taking him out of the bubble) and couldn't use full Bijuu.>ItachiHis only shot is Tsukuyomi if that works on Bee despite having a Bijuu help him. Amaterasu if Bee goes full retard. Base Bee wrecked Sasuke in CQC much better than Itachi could.>KonanSorry, no.>OroLOL. Lmao even>KakuzuBijuu'd dama>ObitoYes. Obito is top 3
>who cares about "muh feats"Kek spotted the shizunefag from the other day.
>>286249054>Pain is not in a position to counterBut he is. We've seen exactly how he does that. You misunderstand the scene, Kakashi is on the losing side here. He's desperately trying to clutch the win but it's already over, Pain just has to look at him and it's over.>doesn't make sense that the fatsos are KO'd but laying on top of random rubble while Kakashi is somehow buried up to his neck but consciousShinra Tensei sent Kakashi into this hole. Now, "why does Kakashi tank it while it KOs/kills people randomly", that's the actual part where I'll agree with you. The cutaway has nothing to do with this.
>>286248256>>286248383It has to be Hagoromo's chakra or a combination of his children's/their reincarnations chakra
>>286248970>Deidara admits Sasori is stronger than himstupid brown you need to learn how to read. He said that to try to get kakashi to fight sasori so he could capture naruto right there.
>>286248970This is bait
Naruto evil
>>286249026>conveniently gets byakugan tier sharingan abilities that are never used again for this one fight, has to hit himself with his own attack to survive, and has to have the asspullest of all asspulls to escape the suicide blast>>286249032Maybe it's from having watched the anime but his elemental attacks are pretty wide scale and powerful. Not on the level of Madara or Obitos but stronger than a shitty generic Uchiha fireball. Plus he can just overwhelm with numbers. And like I said Hidan is probably double teaming.
>>286249069It's rajsuke every time
>>286249064>Bee was nerfedNo he wasn't. Kisame beat him fair and square.>if that works on Bee despite having a Bijuu help himIn Tsukuyomi time flows differently where 1 second could be days, it oneshots Bee which is why Naruto warned him about it.>Base Bee wrecked Sasuke in CQC much better than Itachi couldThe only time Itachi fought Sasuke is when he was holding back and sick. >Sorry, no.Bee gets 600 billion paper bombed >LOL. Lmao evenOrochimaru (war arc) would summon the past Hokage with edo tensei and capture Bee with them.
>>286249275The only one you got correct was Orochimaru
>>286249275>No he wasn'tYou literally ignored the sentence where I explained why he was. He could have not bothered with saving his friends and kept some chakra and he could've gone full Bijuu which Kisame would have a horrible time dealing with.>The only time Itachi fought Sasuke is when he was holding back and sick. There's no reason to think Itachi is an actual tier above Sasuke in cqc like fucking base Bee was.>papers, edoOkay?
>>286249193They're not that wide scale. They're about average and not even boss summon sized like Jiraiya and Gamabunta's giant one which is what he'd need to do any meaningful damage to a full sized Bijuu. None of the hearts are surviving his twist move.
>286249193>conveniently gets byakugan tier sharingan abilities that are never used again for this one fightYou say this every time and it's still not true. It's been able to see chakra as colors since part 1.
>>286249351By the way this kills every Akatsuki member other than Obito (Kamui) and Itachi (Yata mirror).
My melty senses are tingling... Strike one is almost upon us...
>>286249350>There's no reason to think Itachi is an actual tier above Sasuke in cqcHe saw fight kcm Naruto in CQC
>>286242866>>286242894I really appreciate it when villains like Pain and DIO do a ranged attack against the CQC specialist, "just to be sure."Pain vs Kakashi is a lame fight but this is a good move.
>>286249069Nah, I read that stuff from yesterday. Sakura had been stronger than Shizune for a while. Maybe not right at the start of shippuden but definitely for a while. Shizune is low jonin tier at best. Deidara is an arrogant asshole, he wouldn't just admit Sasori is stronger than him if he didn't mean it.>>286249064>Bijuu dama'd to deathSasori would never let him get to that point. He has too many means of putting on pressure and I doubt Bee can do anything against the 3rd Kazekage puppet.>Bee was nerfedI don't know if Bee was really going as all out as he could be, but Kisame was toying with him either way.Itachi was holding back remember?>Sorry, noWe don't know what Konans real full strength is. She almost killed Obito with prep time but we don't know how she'd fare in a regular 1v1. Process of elimination leads to her having captured Han really early in the series.>LOL. Lmao evenOrochimaru is strong as hell, the only problem is we only ever saw him in part 1 scaling or when his arms were gone and he was sick>Bijuu'd damaAgain you're making this assumption that Bee is just starting out in tailed beast state or something.
>>286249387Not him, but and?? Naruto isn't some Taijutsu genius, nor is his KCM speed in had to hand, it's in his Shunshin.
>>286249387That's going into speculation and feat territory, conclude what you will but at this point in the manga, illness or not I can't just think Sasuke would've gotten clowned this hard. If so then there was no point in not jobbing to 13 year old Sasuke's chidori since it'd essentially be the same power difference.
>>286245276Chapter titles contain spoilers.
>>286249413Deidara said sasori was stronger to make kakashi go back and fight him so he could capture naruto easily you dumb brown.
>>286249378Hidan is immoral, Kakuzu tanks it by harding his body, Konan just turns to paper, Deidara can fly with clay creations, Zetsu can just hide under ground, Pain can levitate, Sasori uses iron sand to shield himself
>>286248383>>286249159Also Madara can only get it up for Hashirama
>>286249351>uhh Bee can use his strongest tailed beast mode only attacks right at the start because he just can okOk, Deidara starts the fight with C3, Sasori starts the fight with his performance of 100 and Kazekage, Orochimaru starts in 8 headed serpent form, Kakuzu starts with all his masks combining attacks in his thread form, Itachi starts in susanoo, Kisame starts in his merged form, etc etc
>>286249413>Sasori would never let him get to that pointBee could go Bijuu instantly if he wanted. It depends on how you write the fight anyway, these characters always play around and never use their full power from the start.>I don't know if Bee was really going as all out as he could be, but Kisame was toying with him either way.Kisame wasn't toying with anything. He almost got killed, had Bee double tapped after the Lariat Kisame would've died there.Kisame has 0 answer to Bijuu mode Bee and barely an answer to 6 tails Bee thanks to Samehada.>Itachi was holding back remember?>>286249437>Orochimaru is strong as hellOro is strong, but not that strong. Bee is legitimately one of the strongest characters alive, possibly top 5 right now. He's even a somewhat decent match for Pain although I feel he'd lose. He's the perfect Jinchuriki of the second strongest tailed beast.>Again you're making this assumption that Bee is just starting out in tailed beast state or something.He can turn anytime, but even without that he's faster, tankier, way stronger than Kakashi. He's handling Kakuzu fine.>>286249495>Kakuzu tanks it by harding his bodyLol>Deidara can fly with clay creationsHe's not dodging that. He barely dodged Sasuke's jumps.>Pain can levitateHe's not running away fast enough.>Sasori uses iron sand to shield himselfRidiculous. This is the biggest thing we've seen in almost the entire manga.
>>286249419>Naruto isn't some Taijutsu geniusHis strength just just 3 tails v2 cloak was sending 3 trees into the air >nor is his KCM speed in had to handYou're genuinely retarded. Everything is enhanced with kurama's chakra not just his running speed.
>>286249558If the situation calls for full power, then yes he can, and has.
>>286249593>He's even a somewhat decent match for Pain although I feel he'd loseCome on now you're really trolling.He is not somewhat a decent match, not even close. 6 Paths of Pain bodies him hard.
>>286249437>That's going into speculation and feat territoryIt's not speculation. Kcm Naruto is faster and stronger than Sasuke at point your talking about.
>>286249157Again, Pain needs his arms to deflect anything bigger than a kunai. His arms are bound. If we're going to break the rules again, it should at least get half a page.
>>286247308Nah dat nigga won for real imagine da han jobs ana da uh boob jobs.
>>286249641Bee is endgame level. He fought (albeit without that much success) the Juubi. He pulled instead shit like >>286249351>>286249649These things aren't consistent at all, assuming they are stated/acknowledged at all in the first place (which happens rarely). They're dumb.
>>286247308What is the equivalent of groin attack for women? Yes i know being kicked in the groin for women is painfully too but not as much as for men since their eggs outside while women have them inside.
>>286249593>He's not running away fast enough.He is. He's stronger than Bee after all.>This is the biggest thing we've seen in almost the entire mangaAnd not a single person died or got injured from it.
>>286249696>These things aren't consistent at allYou always say that when you lose an arugment.
>>286249664>Pain needs his arms to deflect anything bigger than a kunaiThe arms are just a visual indication. He often uses Shinra Tensei without his arms and restricting his arms was never brought up as a potential strategy.
>Bee is endgame levelHe lost to Kisame, lost to Nagato, lost to the revived jinchuriki, lost to the 10-tails, and lost to Madara.
>>286249707Smelly post.
Naruto STINKS
>>286247308cha
>>286249684He won because he had to settle for his 2nd choice since the girl he actually loved didn't love him?
>Rajsuke still butthurt about this
>>286249802>speedreadernaruto bathes everyday
>>286249858He was canonically called stinky.
>>286249785Your concession has been accepted.
>>286249684Did hinata have a big ass as well as?
>>286249856I'm the guy who said that most Akatsuki members beat Bee. I hate Sasuke just as much. Bee styling on a weak Sasuke doesn't mean he suddenly beats every akatsuki member.Hell, the stronger version of Sasuke that beat Deidara would likely lose against most Akatsuki members
Hinata is part 2 prob doesn't even know Sasuke exist. I can't remember the names of my classmates too.
I haven't been the same since Hinata gentle fisted my prostate
Rajsuke won. Most people have taken the hint and stopped bothering with these threads since they're just going to be talking to him. And yet he can't take back Hanabi's virginity
Just like with Orihime no one would care about Hinata if she didn't have big tits.
>>286249873nope it was him hallucinating and exaggerating his loneliness. kids lie.
>>286250068Naruto didn't recall that, that was a memory.
>>286249602Your desperate attempts at upscaling Itachi are so obvious
>>286249750Pain isn't a showman. He uses his arms because he needs to, at least until it gets retconned. When it gets retconned, it should be shown, This is called conveyance. What the fuck is so hard for you to understand?
>>286250213You're the one headcanoning that he needs his arms for big deflects. He did one here just fine without arms.
>>286243327>danzo talks hot shit about wanting to ensure the leaf has supremacy and all the other villages are neutered or vassals>crunch time happens when a guy with the god-eyes pulls up and blindsides the village>civilian death totals rising rapidly, jonin falling left and right>okay guys lets get in the bunker until this all blows overbiggest dickhead in the series by a country mile
>>286250054I liked Hinata before i even hit puberty or even acknowledged her chest.
>>286250247This would've turned Fugaku into a bloody paste.
>>286249889Here, I added the tattoos I forgot from that one a while ago. Thankfully I still have the template for when I will inevitably have to make a Raikage version
>>286249700Titty twister
>>286242743Soul
>>286250095so you're telling me he was playing at the playground one day with other kids, nothing happenedthen the later memory of his childhood is him being made fun of? Then we have him hanging out with konoha kids shikamaru fatboy and kiba?
>>286250054I prefer Orihime
Open wide, Rai-ka-ge-sama…
>>286249806What would you do to that.
>>286250207>no argumentAs expected of rajsuke.
>>286250393Carry the Hoega name with pride, my prodigious heir!
>>286250441I'm afraid I don't know of your little thread celebrities so you're joke is lost on me.
>>286250382Naruto can still hang out with friends while being stinky.
>>286242743>>286244884Just noticed that he's missing his chin plug
>>286242743>>286242772>Pain is controlling all of these so he's making stern face with Yahiko and a laughing cocky grin with Asura pathIt's kind of funny to think about. I wonder if it's really important to him to make sure each one appears to have a different personality.
>>286250514Hanabi’s hobbies include training with Hiashi and enjoying a session of Kumo [redacted] in her [redacted]
>>286250650Of course. He probably takes pride in it. I sure as hell would. There's no way this is easy.
>>286250518>playing dumbYep it's rajsuke alright.
>>286242682This is Kakashi's best showing as a commander.
>>286250650I was thinking about this last chapter. His technique isn't exactly corpse puppetry like Sasori. The corpses are actually brought back to life so they seem to retain a bit of their own mind and personality.
>>286250589Oh it's lot more obvious in the B&W vesion
>>286250727also Jiraiya was able to put the Paths into genjutsu without affecting the other paths or Nagato
>>286250658Those are no mere hobbies. Those are our sacred rituals. Others may worship their gods in shrines, but to us the way of the Hoega is the most sacred!>>286249684>>286249939You, on the other hand... Why didn't you pursue a career in the family business, like all proper Hoega women? If only both you and your sister were in our Kumogakure district, the Slutchiha would never have threatened to dethrone us there! Tsk! But that's all over now. I have but one daughter! One who knows the HOEga way!
>>286242866I wonder how big Jiraiya would have done against the Tendo Path. >>286245670>how can he tellToo much damage taken. Shadow Clones can only take a certain amount of damage before they pop. Kakashi is obviously beat to shit.
>>286250727>>286250769Good to know. That means fucking the female summoning Pain isn't gay.
Kakuzu is getting a bit underrated. Two of his hearts got taken by a sneak attack and some BS blood vial trick by Shikamaru. He’s pretty strong and has solid durability. He abused Kakashi and Choji simultaneously while Deva Path got put on the ropes. Kakuzu could take out Taka by himself. Against B he’d have elemental advantage and 5 chances to kill him. Also the village has a fuck load of ninja on standby because Hiashi, Shukaku, Tsunade, Danzo, and Kakashi should be enough to nullify the Paths. They should have kept a few other Akatsuki alive to make this more sensible. Naruto beating Pain is pretty awesome but it hinges on the Leaf being retarded. Ino’s dad and Ibiki nearly beat one.
>>286243388If Chouza doubletapped and Kakashi was able to kill the Tendo Path, the other 4 would just route to the location and mop up and revive it anyhow. But yeah, if he hit, the Tendo Path would have probably been disabled.
>>286250856>I wonder how big Jiraiya would have done against the Tendo Path.Would've jobbed immediately
>>286250899Kakuzu and Deidara both kind of got fucked over by the element system Kishi pulled out of his ass
>>286250247Yeah I guess he's just waving his hands around and making an effort face for fun. Pain is a wacky guy you know. This clearly isn't the single exception we've seen out of the 20 times he's used it, by a mangaka who never makes mistakes.Faggot
>>286250899>Kakuzu is getting a bit underrated.He lost to those two ranom guys in the war. He's not strong.
>>286250999Kakuzu go fucked most by Narutos plot armor. Up to that point he was strong despite needlessly losing 2 hearts.
>>286250899>Kakuzu could take out Taka by himself. Against B he’d have elemental advantage and 5 chances to kill him.lol
>>286251014lol Pain spends half his screen time talking instead of fighting he's all for show
>>286250695As opposed to what exactly?
>>286250999>Gaaras sand is weak to lightning>actually Gaara uses wind style which is strong to lightning but his sand is weak to it cause it just is>Deidaras clay is weak to lightning>actually explosion style is made of earth and lightning style but we're gonna say it's earth style just to give Sasuke the W>Suigetsu is weak to lightning>this one actually makes sense but water is supposed to be weak to earth for whatever reason
>>286250999>pulled out of his assspeedreader-chan...
>>286250856>I wonder how big Jiraiya would have done against the Tendo Path.Good enough to kidnap one of the 6 Pains actually. After having lost an arm. Jiraiya haters (read: Rajsuke) often forget he 1v6'd them for a moment there.
>>286251092Yeah. Kishi should have just avoided the elemental chart.
>>286251126>1v6'd them for a moment thereIf you count dying immediately as 1v6'ing them, sure.
I still think Deidara is a cheat code that would give Konoha a lot of troubleHow do you deal with a flying summon and a user who can casually nuke a mountain?
>>286251014>Pain is a wacky guy you knowHe literally is. Fucking retard.I've posted proof he can disable Kakashi without his hands >>286250247You're free to make theories that using his hands makes it easier for him or maybe that he needs to use his hands for bigger ones. But no hands is enough for knocking down Kakashi. Absolute retard.
>>286251092>actually Gaara uses wind styleHe has wind and earth style. His sand was never been said to be wind.>actually explosion style is made of earth and lightning styleHis clay is earth>water is supposed to be weak to earth for whatever reasonBecause that's what the author made it.
>>286251147Armless Sage Jiraiya killed one of them when he got jumped. Armless base Jiraiya got killed but he wasn't even fighting at that point.
>>286251097Using elements is different than his system. He could have just let characters use the elements without creating his nonsensical weakness vs strength chart that only mattered for 2 fights.
>>286251097>Kishimoto invented water putting out fire
>>286251126>often forget he 1v6'd them...and died lmao.
>>286242754He has superhuman durability; he was surviving this shit, no problem.
Yeah, you can really tell it's Rajsuke hours. He's not talking about Sakon or Ramen but it's the kind of low quality trash he spams to get to 700.
>>286251179It's not nonsensical just because you don't like Deidara losing.
>>286251225Who
>>286251151>I still think Deidara is a cheat code that would give Konoha a lot of trouble>How do you deal with a flying summon and a user who can casually nuke a mountain?Konoha is weak against a lot of ninja because it's just buildings. Sasuke was confident that he could burn it down himself after getting Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi. Bee could blow it up much worse than Pain with multiple bijuu-dama. Kisame could flood it.
>>286251225Everyone
>>286251232Lightning beating Earth is stupid.
>>286251288Ok deidarafag.
>>286251320Remove the chart and Sasukek can still beat Deidara. I don't care about that fight. Kishi's element chart is dumb.
>>286251147>six mid jonin+ level guys jumping him, three of whom he's completely unfamiliar with, and somehow manages to escape and survive, but takes one with himName three (3) living characters at that point in time who are pulling that off. Do not sleep on my nigga Jiraiya
>>286250658Kekaroo, I canonically do this!
>>286251348Ok deidarafag.
>>286251363>Hashirama>Tobirama>Hiruzen
>>286251363>Name three (3) living characters at that point in time who are pulling that offObito, Guy, Kurama.
>>286251048>>286251016You don’t think Kakuzu couldn’t easily kill Jugo and Suigetsu? They were both useless against B. Kakashi is stronger than both and he got outskilled by Kakuzu. They wouldn’t have a good numbers advantage since Kakuzu could just spawn the heart masks and kill Karin quickly. Taka isn’t that strong all together and most of the Alatsuki got screwed over in their fights.>>286251033>>286250999They legit pulled out the elemental BS in the chapter Kakuzu fought Kakashi. It could have been introduced or even mentioned when Temari fought in the chunin exams. Hell Kakashi fought Zabuza and didn’t attempt a elemental counter jutsu.
>>286251363Most of the current Kage can beat 3 of the 6. I’d pick Tsunade with her seal form, Gaara, Raikage, and Ohnoki. I can’t rate Mei until I see more chapters. If Gaara even had a cloak version in this series, he’d beat almost any ninja.
>>286251376I came on her.
>>286251363He's doing that while crippled too, that's the crazy part.
>>286251485>You don’t think Kakuzu couldn’t easily kill Jugo and Suigetsu?Suigetsu could survive getting hit with a nuke at point blank
>>286251610every time this collage is posted it makes me laugh that the most impressive jutsu are not from jiraiya himself but the frogs on his shoulders, in other words he's a fraud
>>286251610And by "that" you mean dying.
>>286251667Konan......
>>286251698This would've killed Jiraiya btw.
>>286251729That would kill pretty much every character that doesn't have a get-out-of-jail free card
>>286251425>living characters at that point in time>>286251447>GuyI'm of the belief that he can go very far against them in 7G, but it would be extremely high difficulty. I'll give this to you.>Kurama>bijuu>>286251533I'm inclined to agree with beating 3 of the 6, depending on which Paths are used. I think only Onoki stands a chance against all six, but that's also a high difficulty fight. Tsunade ragdolls any one or two at a time, but I think she ultimately gets skewered by the black receivers. Ay probably does reasonably well if he isn't jobing but he's a one trick pony who gets Deva'd. Gaara's sand gets sucked. Maybe he stands a better chance in the desert. >>286251667Wait until you put two and two together and realize where Orochimaru's jutsu come from.
>>286251759>get-out-of-jail free cardI love this stupid busted jutsu
>>286251651Sub-Hidan level ability.
>>286251852You're comparing a fireball to a bomb?
>>286249904>Nip girl>2000s>Made by a gen xer nipFlat as a pancake
>>286251852Weaker than a perfect jinchuriki
>>286251782Gaara is still ridiculous. Even before Shippuden, the Sand Tsunami jutsu was pretty powerful and he did it in the forest. His defense and array of attacking can probably do well against multiple opponents.
>>286251852I still don't know what's supposed to be happening in this sequence.
>>286250054
So did someone get banned? Threads are surprisingly slow.
>>286252058she transforms, big fireball, hidan jumps out of the way
>>286252144Sorry, I didn't mean just these images, but the scene in general. Hidan jumps "out of the way", but he's trapped in the same room and the entire building is blown up, so he shouldn't have anywhere to go. Then he suddenly stands behind a piece of wall that held up only in the exact area he's standing in, but how would he even get behind the wall before the explosion goes off?
>>286251782Kurama is a character.
>>286251852>Sub-Hidan levelBut enough about Yugito.
>>286252256You WILL take that back.
>>286251729>>286251759>I killed you>NUH UHUchihas are literally *that kid* on the playground who keep making up shit so they can win
What did Jiraiya even die for if they're just bumrushing Pain without using his intel?
>>286252673The intel Jiraiya for was that the real Nagato wasn't among the Pains
>>286250054Thats where you're wrong missy.
>>286251729This jutsu kills almost any name character >but muh prepperoniEven casting this shot is ridiculously OP. Konan for SS tier
>>286249939Nice art. And you might be right kek
>>286251729Why did she prepare 20 quintillion paper bombs if she didn't expect Tobi to have some kind of bullshit to deal with it
>>286252673>What did Jiraiya even die forThe plot demanded it
>>286252673Intel (the company)
>>286252814When you know your enemy has "actually I can make myself literally immune to all attacks for 6 minutes straight" you think that's as bullshit as it can go. You're not really expecting "you can kill me but I can just make it so that didn't happen"Sasoris/Kakuzus/Hidans/Orochimarus "immortality" wouldn't be able to survive those bombs. Madara wouldn't even be able to survive those.
>>286252880>Madara wouldn't even be able to survive those.Perfect Ultra Susanoo???
>>286252907Madaras susanoo was destroyed by the tailed beasts overlapping their tails. And I'm talking an alive EMS Madara, not a retarded rinnegan Madara.
>>286242502This guy used up a Shinra Tensei charge to deflect a kunai with style
>>286242584>wide range of jutsuTECHNICALLY true since the average ninja only has one or two jutsu but still…
>>286252952>range of jutsu>literally just dug a hole
>>286252962He’s been using Dig since he buried Sasuke during the genie test in Part 1. It’s his best skill and one Naruto learned from his teacher, which he used to beat Neji.
>>286252880>Madara wouldn't even be able to survive thoseHe has izanagi too>Madaras susanoo was destroyed by the tailed beasts overlapping their tailsThat wasn't his perfect susanoo. And even then the tailed beasts together are stronger than Konan's move anyway.
>>286253160>He has izanagi tooYeah, I meant just in terms of durability.The bomb ocean is basically untankable>That wasn't his perfect susanoo. True, but his humanoid susanoo got completely obliterated in one shot. I think 10 minutes of continuous bombing would be able to destroy the perfected one>tailed beasts together are strongerMaybe if they all did a supercharged tailed beast bomb but just the tails together I doubt it
>>286253210>his weakest humanoid susanoo got completely obliterated by all the tailed beasts hitting at the same timeOk?
>>286251729yata mirror
>>286252256Stop the Yugito slander. She was a worthy sacrifice
>>286253025It's kinda funny to imagine a ninja tunneling through the ground like a fucking armadillo
>>286253305She jobbed to someone sub-Shikamaru level.
>>286253305I like that pic, where did you get that?>>286253375She was up against 2 immortals, plot armor, offscreen magic AND she WON!
why did the cloud have 2 tailed beasts again
>>286253463obama mind control
>>286253463Iwa and Kiri did too.
>>286253463The stone had two as well, the 4 and 5 tails. Mist had 2 but Utakata left.The only ones that had 1 each were leaf, but Hashirama made sure to keep the strongest one for himself, the sand because the 1st kazekage was a dumbass who couldn't barter for shit, and the waterfall had one cause why not.
>>286250256Danzo fomenting war in another nation: this is greatDanzo when the same people he fucked over come knocking: SAVE ME NARUTO
>>286253525Hashirama really hated those sandninjas huh?
>>286253463The tailed beasts were auctioned off and the hidden cloud's daimyo simply bought two.
>>286253426>having a two-tailed cat elongates your lifespanThat's cool. Maybe Yugito had nine lives and Akatsuki just took her last remaining one, lol>I like that pic, where did you get itTumblr. I browse a bunch of different sites for art>>286253375No one survived the zombie combi before Kakashi, but I think Yugito made them shit their pants more
>>286253587The sand could have had two but honestly I feel like Kishi just distributed them to whichever villages seemed the most aesthetically pleasing. Can't really see a flying bug like the 7-tails being in the sand village.
>>286253636>>286253653weird ship but cute
>>286253525>>286253587The sand already had their tailed beast before Hashirama gave the ones he collected away
>>286253713Exactly, he could have gotten a second one if he wasn't a retard.
>>286253704Yeah. Thought Yugitobro might enjoy the art>>286253426>I like that picThere's also this version where she's not hugging him
>>286253737>Thought Yugitobro might enjoy the artI like it, thanks! I like how they gave her a different hair style when she was younger. As far as I've found so far it seems Yugito is actually the second tallest female in Naruto, behind Mei, unless there's others I'm missing.
>>286253732>he could have gotten a second oneHe wanted money and land since he lives in a sand shithole
>>286253833I like seeing her with different hairstyles too. Her being tall and slender just adds to the cat-like elegance
>>286242894I can't believe Kakashi is fucking dead
Successful comfy thread
>>286242193Die
>>286242193Live!
>>286247467When did Bayonetta get a Sharingan?
>>286254377After the VA drama lel
>>286254425Drama?
Sex with Chikushodo
>>286250999Kakuzu just got progressively more brain damaged as the fight went on, the problem had almost nothing to do with his powers
>>286254662cool art
Danzo ruined her
>>286254720Jep. I unfortunately don't know who the artist is
Official Naruto tarot cards
>>286254901I wonder if this fanart was inspired by the card. There are four more pics (8 cards) with Konoha characters, should I post them too?
>>286254854
>>286254854I like that origami horse
>>286254954>should I post them too?Go ahead, official art is always interesting
>>286255013
>>286254622She lied about not getting paid enough or something.
>>286255037>>286255081>Naruto and Hinata are emperor and empressNice
>>286255113Emperor & Empress of Fire. Kino....
>>286254954For some reason Asuma's corpse looks really funny with the cigarette in his mouth
>>286244011>Even in the fight against Kakuzu, Kishimoto had to leave him barely alive so Kakashi can be the one to get the killStill funny that Kakashi did that and the next arc they talk about how hard it is to capture an akatsuki alive to be interrogated
>scarecrow wants a brain>tinman wants a heartChecks out. But I think they'd just take her's
