-I'm gonna do it, Thorfinn.-Don't do it, Canute...-I'm gonna do it.-Please don't do it...-Nah, I'm still gonna do it.-Pretty please?-...-...-Okay I'm not gonna do it.WAOW, truly an inconceivable masterpiece, a literal 10/10 episode, the absolute best thing that has ever been on any screen ever.
The amount of seethe over this manga is what convinced me that /a/ isn't worth using any more and why I only check this place once every couple of months now. And I've been here since 2005.
>>286245840See you tomorrow.
>>286245840Yeah but is it wrong doe? Honestly.
>>286245840nu-/a/ would go absolutely feral if Planetes came out today
>>286245796>I only have two options>Dispand by retinue and let Anglo-Saxons revolt>Or steal this one guy's farms (that's somehow going to be enough to pay the troops)Question what is England worth? If you can't tax them enought to pay for your troops, what is it worth?
>>286245796that's LITERALLY happening right now in real life geopolitics. nothing ever happens no leader wants to commit
>>286245840calling the rejection of this homomanga by /a/ inorganic or misguided is crazy.If you really think anyone that doesn't fuck with vinland after season 1, specially with the manga that has a literal tranny in it, is some sort of shill or. "nu" user, just say you are gay.
>>286246760>the manga that has a literal tranny in ithistorically accurate, and coincidentally nobody here cared about trannies in japanese media until the 2016 election
>>286246948holy shit, you make me sad.snap out of it bro, covid is over, hope you do better.Heal brother.
cuckslop
>>286245840This story is by someone who unironically hates the past for not agreeing with his worldview
>>286245840I wanted to think I had no enemies.I was born to love and cheerish children, to keep them safe.Then it turns out the upper echelons are torturing, raping, killing, skinning, abusing, selling, disemboding, eating, drinking, etc. children of all ages, committing genocides, negating human rights to other people and planning to destroy everything just because they are bored.I have enemies.Vinland Saga sold me the stupid idea of peace.We are at war, a holy war.Wake up anon, we have to fight.
>>286251525Exactly soYou don't have to hateYou shouldn't hateBut you do have to fightBecause there are those who hate you, and they do not care what they should or shouldn't doWe have enemies
>>286245796It's a brilliant scene. I'd call it anti-shonen because friends/rivals characters tend to come to blows even if they share common goals, and even if one of them doesn't want to fight (Naruto, Armin). But this could only happen because it was Thorfinn and Canute.
>>286251525The show is not asking you to believe that (You) have no enemiesIt's asking you to understand why thorfin believes he has no enemies after all he has done and gone throughThe very man that said the line died in a fight to try and protect the ones he loves. Thorfin's dad is very clearly shown to not be a pure pacifist as he directly attacks people who are attempting to do him and his family harm. Throfinn SHOULD end up being like him by the end. His current mindset of not having enemies is on the right path, but it's still an extreme that isn't correct and isn't what his father means. He's still in the middle of his journey
>>286252098You would think that but no, that's not how the author views things
>>286252133Who fucking cares what the author thinks?
The authors worldview being retarded is what ruined it
>>286252538He's the one who's putting shit in the story and writing its message to begin withYou can disagree with his take on what should be in the story of about what is conveyed by the way he decided to tell it, but if you disagree with him about what's actually in it you're just stupid
>>286252671*or, not of
>>286252671And what's actually in the story is exactly what I said
isnt "I have no enemies" just a quote from thorfinn not his entire idea? it seems to me that he realized that his attempt to revenge is futile thus he quit seeking vengeance entirely, not laying hands anymore. The quote is just him accepting reality in a bitter way>>286251525
>>286252783No, what's in the story is a chain of everyone who doesn't conform with the author's worldview being slowly turned into cartoon villains that are evil and violent for the sake of evil and violence
>>286252862You haven't read the manga Don't change that
>>286246319What a horrible thought.
>>286252894does the manga interpret things different from the anime
I wonder what it feels to not have enemies
>>286252956daisies and rainbows
>>286252956Just remember how it felt before being born, it's the exact same feeling.
>>286252946A little bit
>>286251525It's really easy to have no enemies when you are icelandic superman who can take down all the ones who wants to murder you or your loved ones without killing them.
>>286253048The last 100 years jewish super conspirancy to genocide the white race implies otherwise.
>>286253048And when you refuse to take responsibility for what happens as a consequence of your pacifism
>>286252992then how am i wrong if the manga isnt much different from the anime
>>286245796Wait til you get to Transvestite Thorkell.I say again~~TRANSVESTITE THORKELL~~Not even joking.
>>286245840This, the manga isn't even that bad, bunch of retards taking that enemies quote too seriously.
>>286254574If you think that sungular quote is the issue then you certainly don't have any right to talk here
>>286254841Oh what's the other issue, that thorkell has a weird child? Wow manga totally ruined...
>>286254871Man, what an intensely shallow reading if the story you have
>>286254892Oh i am the one with the shallow interpretation, not you guys who complain about every insignificant details?
>>286254905Tell me what significant details specifically you think we're complaining about
>>286246948Literally nothing historically accurate about that at all but hey you keep up your new shill narrative that nobody opposed your billionaire supported agenda.
>>286251525Zased
>>286245840It just gets dumb. >No one gets to bring weapons to the peace island, except for my friend's rapid fire crossbow; it's for hunting sometimes. Survival. Unlike building proper defenses. That's bad survival. The paranoid natives might get paranoid if they see a fence, so suck it up. Punch any bears that try to eat your children. I can kill 20 men with my bare hands so I'm perfectly safe. I'm not even gonna tell you, so you can become more paranoid yourself. All the women understand safety's a thing that just falls in your lap, so why can't you foolish men do the same? Stop fearing for your families already. It's fine.And to the faggot who'll say "this is just Thorfinn's flawed ideology", no, it's not treated as a character's flawed ideology. Flawed ideologies are dragged through the mud by the story they're in. Nobody puts up a half-decent argument against Thorfinn's bullshit. The prime culprits behind the failure of peace are plague and fucking FUTURE SIGHT.
>>286245796kino
>>286256092The anime should just change the ending when they get to it.Hell just redo the vinland arc in general.
>>286256092The sword thing was ridiculous, you would have had the exact same scenario if someone used an axe to chop off the guy's hand to try and protect Thorfinn.
>>286245796Every masterpiece lies in simplicityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrgxHDoe8gA
>>286257066An axe is mainly used to chop wood. It's a tool, even if can be used to harm. Hell a knife can do the same thing. But a sword is made first and foremost as a killing tool. Think from a story-telling perspective more rather than nitpicking little details. It's a story.
>>286257814Let's think about it from a story-telling perspective then. Option a) Someone brought a sword. Peace failed because someone secretly disagreed with the flimsy anti-weapon idea. Option b) Someone made do an axe, or fuck it, a stick. Peace failed because the tools at hand are not the issue. Mankind will always be capable of hurting one another, or at best, quietly building up resentment until an opportunity presents itself. Taking the daggers away from a killer like Thorfinn does not make him peaceful or harmless. The idea itself is flawed. Peace demands restraint. Not an absence of tools or opportunity. b) examines the core theme. a) distracts from it.
>>286254871The manga spend most of its time telling you that war and violence is bad.Then indian vegeta does the exact opposite of what Thorfinn is preaching and get away with everything.At the end of the story, Thorfinn failed his expeditions, lost the lives of many people who trusted him and has to go back with nothing to show but dead people and debts.Indian vegeta becomes the chief of his tribe, get a lot of shiny loot (including a brand new sword) thanks to the Nords and he achieve all that through violence and killing with next to no casualties amongst his followers.
>>286258275An extreme pacifist got fucked over by people who don't share his ideals. Isn't that the outcome people who cry about the "I have no enemies" idea want to see?
>>286245796I watched it but I have no idea what you're talking about
>>286258643>Isn't that the outcome people who cry about the "I have no enemies" idea want to see?No, people are complaining because it's the logical outcome everyone saw coming.People are complaining because they actually want Thorfinn to succeed but he went full retard about it and doomed himself to failure.
