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The fans must be pushing 50 by now, how are they still so invested?
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>>286252072
I'm 27
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I'm 31
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>>286252072
Why are you zoomers always so surprised that people don't stop liking things?
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>>286252214
They are inundated with new anime all the time and can never focus on one for too long or they feel like they're missing out. So they just push aside one anime and move onto the next one the ecelebs are hyping up.
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the fans are younger than the show
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>>286252243
Sounds miserable.
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>>286252243
>ecelebs
Maybe I'm the weird one and am just out of the loop but I don't think that's really how it works
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Cause it makes you feel something
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>>286252438
Kids today don't want to feel something, they just want to see hype moments, or "aura farming clips on tiktok" as they call it.
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>>286252496
Give them more credit than that
They've largely not been allowed anything more, they can't tell what it's like to have it or what it is but they can tell it's missing
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>>286252345
Not entirely, but most of the information zoomers and gen A's get from pretty much everything nowadays comes from influencers and vloggers they follow on places like Tiktok and Youtube. I'd be surprised if there's more than a few of them that haven't watched something they didn't see shilled on social media or in a video first.
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>>286252438
Rei makes me feel something.
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>>286252072
I am 12 lol
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>>286252072
I'm 39
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>>286252072
I'm 37. Zoomer says something? I don't care. Simple as.
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>>286252438
If you watch NGE at around the same age as its protagonists, it'll leave a mark on you like no other work of fiction will. For better or worse, it can change your life.
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>>286253217
Same, God bless bro
>>286253297
True, it got me laid with a cute girl with short hair like rei
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I've heard that the series is almost the same story or parallels the film, 'the secret garden' which I haven't seen in many years, is there any backing to this?
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>>286253297
>>286253344
My allies. Such a shame zoomies would never experice the bliss of loving something and sharing it with strangers in a taiwanese chat room.
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>>286252072
I am 22.
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>>286252072
Because it made me feel things. And I'm only 37.
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>>286252438
I don't think there will ever be another anime that comes close to this, if there is I would love to know but evangelion will forever be the one show that left a huge impression on me. I wish I could forget it all and experience it like if it was new to me again.
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>>286252072
Because it's good.
>B-B-But...
Cope.
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>>286253475
It's not
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>>286253484
You are entitled to your opinion. And I disagree with it with my whole heart. I'm glad we reached a concensus.
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>>286253393
Zoomies don't deserve evangelion, they will always envy us for it because we got to experience it in a way they never will. The world was just a different place back then.
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>>286253517
You imply that you actually do deserve it
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>>286253468
Watching and experiencing just isn't the same these days. Zoomers and younger don't know how to.

What was the last big one? Code Geass? The internet just can't have people come together like then anymore.
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>>286252072
I'm only 40, I'm still young!
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>>286253529
I do, and nothing you say can change that. People who are fans of Eva are ones who can relate to the themes and the feelings of the characters. Its like the show was made for us.
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>>286253529
Even if we don't. We care enough about it that we have kept it alive for decades. Zoomers can't say the same about their disposable slop.
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>>286253593
Most zoomers look 40 these days kek, they are all aging horribly. There is even that article about it with the zoomer girl who looks like she is in her 50s.
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>>286253630
Based, they have nothing to show for their generation and its really sad.
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>>286253630
>Zoomers can't say the same about their disposable slop.
All they want is something that looks cool. They are only into things on a superficial level.
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Brainwashing.
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>>286252438
>>286253297
>>286253344
>>286253468
I respect your experiences.
And it's good that you have them.
I watched NGE at age 19 (close enough to the to the protagonists' age no?) but couldn't find a single redeeming factor in it, and couldn't end up caring for a single character.
>But what stories actually made you feel anything then
Clannad VN, Gintama manga, etc. the character writing is full of effort and humanity, and lots of scenes to build up the characters, as opposed to evangelion which I found, iirc, to be mostly just 1) depression scenes without much meaning, 2) angsty scenes where characters bitch at each other without much meaning, 3) arbitrary sci-fi mumbo jumbo, 4) robot fights because we are robot otaku.
The asuka mom flashback and rei room reveal were pretty cool.
Anyway I don't know what triggered my spergout, have a good thread.
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>>286253990
You too fren, blessings
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Is Eva anti-gnostic and pro-hylic?
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>>286255057
The gnostic are literally the bad guys.
What do you think.
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>>286252214
>Why are you zoomers always so surprised that people don't stop liking things?
It's like that for every generation. Rock and Roll was supposed to be a passing fad the youth would grow out of and Video Game Consoles were "kids toys" until the late 90's / early 00's when it became apparent that they were now all ages media like movies and music. In 30 years the old folks homes will be full of weebs and gamers.
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>>286255127
its sad how casuals can't appreciate how Giant Robo OVA coded the members of SEELE are
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>>286253990
i dont mean this in a dismissive way, but you were filtered. not liking the characters or story is one thing, perfectly valid opinion, but not being able to appreciate the filmmaking in a technical visual sense is another.
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>>286254009
Bless you.
>>286256256
Filmmaking is irrelevant and absent of value without a good story and characters, I might as well browse a photography album (sorry for sounding like a bitch). That's why I didn't mention the directing in my precious post. However, or course you are right that anno drew some beautiful shots.
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>>286256483
I think the problem with evangelion is misplaced expectations i noticed a lot expect something that isn't there.
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>>286256538
Yes, that unfortunately happens all the time, I try not to overhype series I recommend nowadays for that reason.
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>>286256483
we have such fundamentally different view on the medium that we will have to agree to disagree
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>>286256586
I don't think we disagree that good visuals can make an anime with bad story and bad characters a good watch but I don't think you can argue that a storytelling medium's stories and characters aren't of paramount importance...
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>>286252072
I'm 19.
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>>286256586
By "bad" I don't mean to refer to NGE btw, it's not like the story and characters were bad. They were fine
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>>286252072
The average age of eva fans is 34 or something
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>>286256586
In case our conversation doesn't continue past this, I wish that you enjoy the new renaissance of NGE discussion and the anniversary (if I have that right).
Have a good one!
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>>286252072
I kept putting it off until recently. I am almost halfway through and it still didn't click with me.
The setting, the robots, the technology and everything about it looks really cool and the girls are hot. However there seems to be something that is keeping it from breaking through. Maybe it's the episodic format or the anticlimactic fights or maybe it's one of the cases where you just had to be there while being a certain age so it could really have an impact on you.
Is it like this the entire time?
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>>286256784
>Is it like this the entire time?
No it ramps up soon, you appreciate the early parts more on a second viewing
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>>286256628
i love non-narrative films like samsara and chronos so no i wouldn't agree, but it's not wrong to feel that way personally.

>>286256719
yeah it's nice to have a little good faith discussion, appreciate it
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>>286256784
What are some other mecha series you do like and why? 'cause if the appeal is something like the large war narrative or ensemble drama in 79 Gundam then yeah it's not gonna suddenly turn around and become that.
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>>286256864
This people should just watch other mecha they have what they wanted eva to be.
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>>286256843
Yeah good faith in this economy is hard to come by.
I only read the synopses of those movies, and then thought for quite a while, a whole car ride's worth. You said a lot of stuff I hadn't considered before, so I was struggling to process it all.
And I'm trying to formulate something that's somewhat objective that takes into account both of our takes.
I think in one side of the spectrum you have narratives, human stories, ones you could read in a book etc, and the visuals and audio are there to facilitate that if it's in another medium.
On the other side of the spectrum, at the farthest point, you have gore videos, pornography, etc. meant to provoke stimulus. Rather than the experience of watching porn for example, I could also go into a savannah and choose to get mauled violently by a jaguar. It would be visceral and it would teach us something human (I don't mean a movie I mean actually doing it).
In that sense, the latter direction of the spectrum is more like a documentary of human feeling (which overlaps into human experience and human stories)
An example that helped me was, when araki comes up with a new shocking body horror depiction in Jojo, it's cool as fuck and titillating and maybe even a bit thought provoking, but I don't think any amount of body horror innovation could make me rate a Jojo part higher on the /10 scale (although we may both agree that such a scale is not very meaningful, I hope my point is still clear).
Now, are "feeling/experience" focused (as I understand it) movies like the ones you shared, and like the valuable moments in evangelion, art? I tried to deny it, but couldn't. Of course they are art. It could be high art, it could be low art, it depends on the details. The point is, they are meaningful methods, that take skill, to depict the human condition.
But to conclude, if we (or I) then wanted to say that such visceral visuals or depictions are what make NGE truly great (setting aside story and characters for now), it...
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>>286252214
It's 2026 and if you are addicted to cartoons involving mentally dysfunctional degenerates. There's no argument to be had here.
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>>286252072
only zoomoids are invested in the fanfic that are the rebuilds
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>>286256843
...it would be better to classify NGE as a documentary of experiences rather than a narrative storytelling. Usually when I hear "anime" or "film" I typically associate it with the latter, and technically both the former and latter are part of the same medium, but they're definitely two different groups, or at least two different ways of evaluation.
I do think that there is a problem with simply giving more points based on viscerality because then the most gorey disgusting gore videos would be considered valuable artistic expression (or at least far more easily than any kind of more palatable and less shocking storytelling).
And also that it can largely be divided from a story's more important aspects, or human aspects (whatever that means). I guess I'm dividing human vs primal.
For example one interesting part of NGE to me is how Anno projected his seiyuu and coworkers (ikuhara, was it?) onto his characters. That's where part of the human aspects comes from. And he was probably studying his own psychology, and putting it on the screen seeking a sort of para-acceptance, as artists do.
When it comes down to it, I'm happy to consider a film or anime as a great one simply due to the "experience", but I think the two types of anime/film, "storytelling" and "experiential" aren't even two different genres, they're basically two different mediums.
I guess that ties back to my photography collection analogy. Or art from artists like Dali I guess (I'm an artlet I only know the big ones). I don't think Anno did anything particularly mind-blowing even when it comes to only provoking our primal emotions?
Well, I thought I'd wrap up a long time ago and now I don't know how.
Basically, of course it's absurd for me to assert that "visual-audio experiences that do not have story/character focuses are meaningless", however I also don't think such aspects necessarily add to a work in the lens of, "when the point is to tell a story", which I assumed for NGE
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you seem to have a poor grasp on the concept of time
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>>286257526
> addicted
projecting again lil zoomie?
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>>286252072
40
not invested. just like the girls.
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>>286257567
i guess the difference is something like what we consider the core parts of telling a story and what is is more periphery. i like to focus on the how, or maybe you could say the 'telling' as much as the story itself. or at least, in the case of eva where the way things are conveyed is very tight and creative in its efficiency in a way that grabs me. i appreciate the thoughts though, i want to keep ruminating on it but it's the middle of the night for me so
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>>286252072
Hey fuck you I'm only 46, 46 is young
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>>286252072
Because Asuka is best girl.
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>>286253631
Is there a name for this sort of millennial obsession with aging that causes them to make up stories about Gen Z aging horribly
I've been seeing it EVERYWHERE and its really fucking stupid
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Damn,am only turning 31 one this month and I can't go another minute in this country and people,you people are sugoi
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>>286257875
Good night!
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>>286255127
Their vision of transcendence is misguided
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>>286257723
The only thing I'd project is the speculative future people like you will have in the next 5 to 10 years. Imagine being so stuck on one anime that you miss the rest of the world moving around you. Having said that, you should still do what you love and enjoy what you like. Don't let me stop you.
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>>286252072
I'm 33 and I barely care about the Rebuilds.
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It's the only anime they've watched.
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>>286259009
>Imagine being so stuck on one anime
imagine strawmanning so hard, lmao
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>>286252072
It's great
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>>286259574
Kek, dragon ball z, outlaw star, Akira, fist of the north star, tenchi muyo, sailor moon, Conan, gundam wing, uc gundam, Fullmetal alchemist, cowboy beeebop, studio ghibli films, etc. We got to see all the good stuff as it was new and coming out, sorry zoomie, you lost. The newer shows can never compare to these great classics.
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>>286252072
I don't think there's a popular franchise I've hated more than the star wars prequals. The hate for Shinji--a useless loser virgin nerd--drives me. Eva is shit.
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>>286252072
I'm 64
I'm lying
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>>286258000
Projecting their insecurities?
The anons well into their 30s and above know deep down they should've moved on from a site they've posted on since they were edgy teenagers
It's fine to still like anime at any age, but still arguing with internet strangers about which cartoon girl is hotter at that point is a sign of autism/arrested development and yjk it eats them from the inside



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