Basically, Anno's message has always been the same: stop locking yourself in fantasy (instrumentality) and face the real world. This short just made it crystal clear. Asuka literally sees her perfect dream—marriage, kids, a life with Shinji—and she REJECTS it. Not because she doesn't want it, but because she wants to BUILD it herself. With her own strength. In the real world, even if it's broken. That hit me hard. Watching her choose reality over fantasy, knowing she'll struggle but also knowing she'll actually LIVE... it made me want to do the same. So yeah. Tomorrow I'm looking for a job. Gonna stop being a NEET and try to build something real.
Yeah this it ultimately has the same message as the other eva's.
Naruto did the same thing.
wow this sure needed yet another threadare you that desperate for (You)s?
>>286255964You should also look at the reality where you live in a capitalistic hellhole.
>>286256160money isn't real
>>286256160To be fair can you really fix that?People have historically tried and failed like a million times, at this point capitalism is just part of nature.
>>286255964Congratulations!
>>286255964>hey, guy watching this who has a job:>GET A JOBFuck you too, pal. I honestly hate that preachy shit.>hey anon, I know you're poor and trapped where you are, but GO OUT and EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD!The "real world" isn't quirky relationships, or epiphanies on the beach, or "wow I'm no longer an ugly loser and all I had to do was go outside!". It's not a fucking tourist destination. That's somehow more disingenuous than bold-faced escapism. Fiction is, in my opinion, at its lowest when trying to preach down to the low rungs, before about-facing and pretending like it's a "message for everyone". I am not here to be reminded of all the experiences I missed out on because I wasn't cool in high school. I'm not here to attend a lecture on why my largely-necessitated lifestyle that I maintain to fucking live is actually wrong and that I should go romp in the woods with magical talking animals. Art, fiction, is a tool I use to maintain what shreds of social levity and grace I have left by distracting me from wanting to go fucking feral in the middle of traffic and strangle the Altima driver who just cut me off through their window. Don't fucking proselytize some Hallmark bullshit to me. Entertain me, or I spike you into the fucking garbage where you belong and you don't earn my money. FUCKSAKE.
>>286256900The irony here is evangelion is probably one of the most escapism anti escapism media ever.
>>286255964Doesn't help because the solution always involves love and I cannot love for some reason. My dream is to kill evil powerful people so maybe I should reach for the stars and try to become a sniper. This is what Anno would tell me, I guess. I should be more confident and try.
>>286256160When are you leftoids going to learn that fractional reserve banking isn't capitalism.
I thought anno was done with eva?
>>286256900idk sounds like a skill issue to me
>>286255964>Basically, Anno's message has always been the same: stop locking yourself in fantasy (instrumentality) and face the real worldOf course. Instrumentality isn't the fantasy world though, the anime medium is.
>>286255964Who cares? He's not a very bright guy. Sometimes the author is only a temporary tool of God, stop jerking on the pencil
>>286257161>I should be more confident and try.That's the spirit!
>>286255964Haven't watched anything Eva in years but the very idea that Asuka might want to marry and have children with Shinji is crazy to me. But then again Asuka is nothing if not a fantasy anyways. She complies with and wants whatever the MC wants or whatever makes them feel good in the end because she's a main female character. Her acrimonious character is just a diversion from this fact.
>>286256160God i wish we lived in capitalism
>>286258228>the very idea that Asuka might want to marry and have children with Shinji is crazy to meAsuka has created some kind of white knight headcanon version of Shinji out of necessity. Because Asuka cannot function without validation, and with Kaji gone, Shinji became the only way she could get the validation needed for her to function. Problem is, Shinji is a wimp and a lame ass kid, so she creates this distorted image of him and then gets frustrated to no end the real thing doesn't match her expectations, bringing her ego down in the process.
>>286258538Nah, Shinji is a chad, he’s just fucked up like she is.
>>286258570>Shinji is a chadA chad would have fucked Misato and get her pregnant. Wait a minute.
>>286258645>Kajiposting after Soryu is confirmed Shinjisexual down to her deepest fantasiesLol
>>286258645Kaji is the man Asuka thinks she’s supposed to like.Shinji is the boy she can’t help but love.
Just imagine, try to envision, if a week ago you said the reason Asuka rejected instrumentality was so she could get married with Shinji in the real world, the amount of shit you would get from the Reifags. Yet today we live that world. It's glorious
>>286258599lol melty
>>286255964>because she wants to BUILD it herselfI am not capable of this, and circumstances outside of my control like my family has been so awful to me that I have no chance to even attempt to grow into my own personI just have no capability to care or motivate myself to do anything anymoreI am literally rotting away in my childhood room and don't even shower or brush my teeth
huh i'm surprised there's no kensuke spam so far
>>286258797He knows he’ll be laughed at
>>286255964>>286256978''Real life'' is a spook and a lie too. Evangelion is pro-hylic trash
>>286257190Of course it is fuckhead
>>286258797He's been posting scat and AI slop in every eva thread
>>286255964This "facing reality" message may have worked in the 80s and 90s world, but it is completely alienated from the fact that reality today has treats that are becoming more and more nightmarish.It is one thing to tell people to get a normal job and get married in postwar society, where the material conditions to do so are open and available for all (only time in the history of human beings btw); it is another thing to say this in post-2016, post-pandemic society threatened by global war and the climate crisis, where material well being for middle class people has been obliterated and the possibility to get good job under satisfying conditions has expired.A lot of boomer authors seem to argue in the direction of "getting back to reality", but the reality into which they got back in their thirties is not the reality in which a millennial or a gen Z has to go back now in their thirties.The consequence is that their message sounds preachy, out of touch, obsolete and often downright ridiculous. What is needed right now - and I hope millennial and gen z artist can rise to this challenge - is not to return to reality, but to make a genuine, deep, painful effort of the imagination to dream of a different one where life actually become livable. Then we'll be happy to go outside and get to work on that.
>>286255964>but because she wants to BUILD it herselfShe will forever lack the mental stability to reach it, and Shinji will forever lack the self esteem to make any relationship sustainable.
>>286255964Anno's message is several layers of cognition beneath my reality. It is an insipid and trite message, unworthy of being read. You must face reality! The sky is also blue! The pope is rumored to be catholic! There is no revolution here. It's monotonous. It's a message for a man who's afraid if he dreams even once, he'll become addicted to sleep.
>>286259083Go outside a kill a boomer then take what life owes you.
>>286259154>>286259083Reminds me of picrel.
>>286255964He has nothing new to say since 90s but still keeps milking it.
>>286258797Over the last few days the site started paying a service that deals with proxy spam. He basically can't spam the way he used too. Also, he's been having a non-stop melty even tried making a bait thread, posted scat porn, doing the usual schizo shit. It's just now people are ignoring him and laughing at his melty to care
>>286259206I'm not owed anything, and I don't think boomer did anything wrong - I would have probably lived exactly like they did, had I been their place. What I am saying is that their message comes from a place where they consider normal things that cannot be considered normal anymore. When they ask me to "enter reality", it's a radically different reality than the one I see around me. I need a different approach, and I need to stop considering "normal" what old people defined as such.Incidentally, this is a big topic in Tomino's work. Gundam always somewhat implied that younger generations are unpredictable in their setting a standard for what will be "normal" in the future - the whole newtype idea, and the fact that you never get a proper definition of what a newtype is, signifies this exactly. Being a newtype is the same as being young: it means to have unbridled potential for the intuition of new realities, for empathy, for understanding, and for a new world. Tomino always says that he's old and young people should stop revere him and take his place. This is right. It's very sad that Anno did not catch up on this. He's following Miyazaki into this conservative streak of telling people how to behave from above - he cannot meet new generations on their own terms, because he keeps focusing on talking about himself.
>>286259154So it's the inverse of The Silver Key
>>286258669>>286258691The version of Shinji Asuka likes is literally a fantasy, a what if Shinji was Kaji.
>>286255964No. Anno's message is: "I made new EVA and pandered to the retard fans. Now give me money."
>>286255964These "escapism is unhealthy" message seem sound at first glance but it really doesn't stand up to further scrutiny. Nobody really knows what "reality" even is. Our understanding of reality is limited to our perspective and biases. This thread is proof enough of that. Look at how many different opinions people have on what "real" life is like. Posts complaining about capitalism. Posts complaining about the lack of capitalism.tl;dr Reality is a meme. Everyone lives in a constant state of cope.
>>286257190>REAL capitalism has never been tried
>>286256160Didn't stop Lenin and Mao, did it?
>>286256900>Entertain me, or I spike you into the fucking garbage where you belong and you don't earn my money.how come a lesson so simple, agreeable and universally understandable as "choose life" cause so much seethe? you dont see little kids throwing a tantrum when bluey tells them its good to share and be kind to others but somehow grown ass men get genuinely triggered by any sorta moral message in media
>>286255964nah, fuck realitywhat has reality ever done for me?
>>286255964>Tomorrow I'm looking for a job>Gonna stop being a NEET and try to build something realkeklmao evenyou will quit after a week, if not just not show up the first daythat is if you even get a job in the first place lol
>>286256269>at this point capitalism is just part of nature.Yes. It is. Capitalism literally is not a system, its a term invented by Marx to describe realities he didn't like. Yes, you heard that right, Marx invented the term too, it was his boogeyman, of course he describes it negatively. That's why there's no great founder of capitalism."Capitalism" is a recognition of economic realities that morons ignore and pretend they can fight. Its like raging against gravity. You can think you can run the flow of human exchange like the sims and with enough authoritarianism you can do that for a period of time with immense human suffering as the cost.>>286258864No it isn't.>>286260203Capitalism isn't a thing. Capitalism is not being a retard and thinking you can micromanage every economic decision every human makes at all times.What is the shit you fuckers always bitch about?Housing: Highly regulated, not a free market, not allowed to be a free market.Jobs: Highly regulated, not allowed to run efficiently to force bad socialist policiesEducation: Entirely socialist in nature. Government's hand up its ass at every level. Predatory student loan a direct socialist policy with the obvious results socialist pretend never happen (except literally every other time in history they've done this)Healthcare: The most overregulated, bad socialist bullshit trying to pretend it isn't. Literally the point of Obamacare that has made everything worse ever since.Everything you hate under "capitalism", absolutely everything, is the socialist cancer fucks like you metastasized into the systems that gum up all the works instead of allowing natural flow. Unless the thing you hate in society is having so many options for products and services that you can't buy all of them, that's a capitalism problem. Or being able to afford and access so much food you ate yourself into obesity.
>>286256160Drooling mongoloid retard tranny.
>>286260235>choose lifeLife is working 9 to 5 for less than minimum wage while doing extra work without payment just to avoid losing your one means of earning money for food.Creator types who became billionaires are the ones who should learn what life is.
>>286260235if you cant understand why people would get mad at such "message" its because you never chose to follow it, or rather never had to make this choice
>>286257161You think you're going to be killing anyone relevant as an USAF slave?
>>286255964>Watching her choose reality over fantasy, knowing she'll struggle>woman>struggleYeah alright
>>286260235I'm guessing it's because it feels condescending>woah you're gonna be super duper happy if you live your fricken life bro and stop watching da animays!!!!!!meanwhile for a lot, if not the vast majority, of people, their actual real life that they're living, usually through no fault of their own, is so shit that suicide is a daily consideration and I'm not really kidding. Telling those people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps 'just' do something about it is naive and frustrating at best, and homicide inducing at worst. It's a complete platitude. It's not a solution and it's not a relevant message.
for real, i'd rather build my own futurei might have to choose between rent and food, get robbed every week, and will probably die of some condition that could have been easily prevented if i could afford to see a doctorbut hey, i'd rather live in reality than some fantasy land
>>286259083>post-pandemic society threatened by global war and the climate crisis, where material well being for middle class people has been obliterated and the possibility to get good job under satisfying conditions has expired.Lad, did you forget the Cold War was a thing and the advent of "you actually HAVE to go to college now" started way earlier than you think
>>286255964>He's taller I never had a chance
>>286255964I'd reject marriage and having a kid with Shinji too. That seems like hell. He's literally a whinny kid who wouldn't do his one job (get in the robot) because he was "depressed"If she had married him, she'd be the one working while he did jack shit at home.
>>286256900>>hey, guy watching this who has a job:>>GET A JOB>Fuck you too, pal. I honestly hate that preachy shit.Get a 2nd job and quit being a loser who watches anime.
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>>286258570Shinji should have been shoved in a locker if not aborted. Literally has no value to society.
>>286259083If you don't face reality, someone more deserving will and you'll justly get replaced.
>>286256269Tbf the current kosher infinite debt growth model really doesn't work. Everything has gone to shit to save cost and make infinite profit growth. We can't even find talents anymore as no one wanted to be paid the same rate as indians for cultivating their skill.
>>286260235It makes people mad because it clearly comes from much more fortunate people that dont know how lucky they were. Asking people that work every day to live to "get a life" is really just hypocrite
>>286262072"Reality" is not a finite resource retard
I think Sonny Boy ended up doing this better by specifically portraying that choosing life isn't necessarily gonna be some big eventful thing where everyone cheers and claps for you and celebrates.
>>286262559I liked it better when Onani Master Kurosawa did it
>>286255964Kek. This is the mental trap where someone easily impressionable watches Evangelion or Welcome to the NHK and gets made to feel ashamed of their being a weeb. There's some resolve to start working towards a "real life", but you're still idealizing the idea of it in the same way that you did with anime. Real life won't reward such idealization in the same way that anime does. Don't let that confuse you OP. Well, I guess you're unhappy so I hope you find yourself in a better place Anon. Maybe it'll be married with a beautiful family, or maybe at the very least it'll be not taking shit so damn seriously.
>>286256900Fucking based. And all these fags who get inspired to "change their lives" from fucking cartoons, and respond to real posts like this with patronizing bullshit, are probably like 19 and never struggled a day in their lives. There are no Shinjis in real life because in real life you don't magically get handed some ultimate life purpose by the plot. Anyone who takes Evangelion as some kind of philosophical authority is retarded and mentally a teenager. It's just Anno's gay faggoty little diary.
>>286260537I like how you break down how capitalism isn't the big bad some people make it out to be only to hypocritically do the exact same thing with socialism.
>>286263097Ganbare me!
>>286257689Socrates here is right
>>286263298Cute anime girls is cute ofc they fear nothing especially when they are only 15. But (you) 30+ year old anons, should've just gave up already.
>>286259083True art, especially youth artistic expression, is being terribly repressed in the West. Dark times indeed.
>>286263298I mean, I agree unironically. That's a good attitude to have. Just be ready for it to be nothing like anime.
>>286263642asuka have 13
>>286259083>but to make a genuine, deep, painful effort of the imagination to dream of a different one where life actually become livable. Then we'll be happy to go outside and get to work on that.Almost. The one thing I would add, though, is that it can't ignore the reality of hardship. Evangelion's message may be out of touch and a tad magical (we're expected to see ourselves in Shinji even though he is magically fated a clearly defined purpose to his life, and real life doesn't work that way), but at least it acknowledges the reality of hardship. Boomers had opportunities granted to them, but they still had to face a degree of hardship along the way. That will never change.
>>286261461You want a gold sticker or something? Shut up faggot
>>286255964the reality is that eva always fucking sucked
>>286262072It'd be nice if things actually worked that way, but once you turn 22 or so you'll learn how things really work.
>>286259083I mean that doesn't actually ignore 'face reality' messages. Going out and making the world you want after acknowledging where reality has failed you is something that a lot of older stories preached too
>>286261597>did you forget the Cold War was a thing>Implying we aren't in a new cold war with china and RussiaAt least the last cold war is easy, the enemy is outside and also the underdog when you consider that the Soviet union can't even produce enough jets for their sole aircraft carrier while china is a peasant nation, the threat is only from nukes which no one is insane enough to ever use. Meanwhile millennials and gen z is expected to fight china who produces everything we have thanks to the (((shareholders))) not to mention the enemy is also present inside our border thanks to decades of open border nonsense. Now we have a cold war with the largest industrial nation in the world (built with our tax money) while our own country is managed by 80+ year old boomers and indians.
>>286260537Yes, it is, capitalism is the ideology of the supremacy of property owners maximizing their self-interest, in all modern countries it takes the form of jews creating private banks that use fractional reserve lending policies codified into the law to make themselves the de facto ruler.
>>286262072Idk man, the people who "replace" me either can't tell how they would feel if they haven't eat a breakfast before or scammers who eat cow dung and believe that they are the master race even if their country is a giant slum.
>>286264496Is that a good moral for the average person though?
>>286264682Lol the first one is nig and the second is jeet
>>286256900This. Half of the time anti-escapism media comes from people who had their life handed to them and never struggled.
>>286262072They're too afraid to face the fact that reality is cruel and uncaring. That's why they constantly retreat to anime safe spaces where there is a world full of girls and there is no plot, no action, no forward movement, and no conclusion because the conclusion means facing the fact that everything has a shelf life and thats too scary.
>>286264666To be fair, that's more oligarchical than capitalist. You ironically need lots of "socialist" protections written into law to preserve any semblance of capitalism.
>>286264765This is really evident in Evangelion. Shinji is given a special destiny that only he can do, and is made undeniably clear to him. Real life doesn't work that way.
>>286257335Pretending that Farming is an enjoyable activity is more of a fantasy than instrumentality.
>>286264931For most people, their "robot" is the education system and then the economy. Those systems don't always magically harmonize with you and give you superpowers. For many, it does the opposite. The "robot" Evangelion urges us to "get in" is not an otherworldy cosmic thing. It's a flawed system created by stupid humans, and made up of even stupider humans.
>>286264883There is no point in drawing a philosophical line between capitalism and oligarchy because if you permit capitalism by definition you permit oligarchy.
>>286264967This is what I'm ITT spamming. Treating Evangelion as a philosophical authority is retarded because it will lead you to expect "real life" to replace anime and treat it as this idealized thing.
>>286265029Damn, I really never thought about it like that before.
>>286265029That's why we're in a world where people have meltdowns when other people have money to spend
>choose life stop doing escapismIn the past few weeks I found out the guy heading upper management at work is probably a child rapist and will make tens of millions of dollars through a backhanded bet. He won't be punished cause of connections and I can't really leave cause the job market is a dumpster fire. I still have it better than most people since the salary is decent."choose life" lmao what a joke
>>286265341You're brainrotted beyond the point of no return if all you can take from that is "muh capitalizzum vs muh socializzum". What I mean specifically is, people like you are clearly trained by some e-celebrity to have a dopamine release from taking the side of a Cold War era debate that ended decades ago, and can't see the bigger picture.
>>286255964Anno is a fucking retard WITH AN UGLY WIFE WHY DID HE INSERT HER INTO THE REBUILDS
>>286255964Im to depressed to live
>>286255964Wait so is this canon to EoE? Will they get married in the real world?
>>286265998It's her last-ditch fantasy before she turns her back on Instrumentality
>>286265998It's her crackpot headcanon.
>>286265482What is this schizo rant? All you're doing is conceding holy shit.
>>286256160*Jewish hellhole
>>286260203This, but unironically
>>286260537>Everything you hate under "capitalism", absolutely everything, is the socialist cancer fucks like you metastasized into the systems that gum up all the works instead of allowing natural flow. Unless the thing you hate in society is having so many options for products and services that you can't buy all of them, that's a capitalism problem. Or being able to afford and access so much food you ate yourself into obesity.Trvke nvke
>>286270133Unironically japanese officer workers need some chutzpah and to kick all the boomer bosses down the gutter
>>286264967I don't think the works was presented as enjoyable but connecting to people.
>>286256160>all these anonsno you dont get it, its good that lots of people can work a full time job and still never be able to afford a house or to raise a family and if you think you SHOULDN'T work yourself to death for rent ?well that just makes you a onions chugging, retard tranny lover doesnt it ?
>>286265998who gives a fuck at this point ?anything past the 24 episodes of NGE + EoE is fanfic garbage.the literal message of eva WAS a warning on why not to be a avoidant bitch reflected by a cast of realistically written flawed characters that got depressingly chugged into whatever makes fat otaku's mental penis twitch.
>>286256269>People have historically tried and failed like a million times, at this point capitalism is just part of nature.Son, capitalism didn't even exist for like 95% of our time as a species
>>286255964This short changes nothing about Asuka's characterization. As we can see in EoE, she chooses to return to reality, despite the world being an incredibly hostile and fucked up place that had only ever let her down. At that point, she had lost all her piloting ability, (her deepest fear of becoming useless and thus unwanted by anyone), her mind attacked and childhood trauma dredged up, had her suicide attempt halted by NERV so they could put her in a coma and awaken her when it was time to use her as a meat shield, whereupon she was fucking dismembered, blinded, and ripped apart until her angry painful demise. And that's just the cliff notes. Still, she revived and stomped out of the ocean and lay down next to Shinji. And sympathized with him as she was being strangled. After everything, she still chooses life and optimism.
>>286256900You should strangle that Altima driver, though.
>>286259083Agree. That's why the ending of Sonny Boy falls kida flat.
>>286262072Everybody is facing reality, retard, thing is, nobody's doing anything to change what we have right now.
>>286256213but magic is, and money is a magic device
>>286256900>IF YOU DON'T DISTRACT ME FROM THE LIFE I HATE I'M GONNA KILL MYSELFNot every piece of art is for everyone, and not every message is needed for everyone. You're such a loser.
>>286262764Because there reality at least aknowledge the posibility of connections with other human beings. Maybe that the best fiction can offer right now.
>>286260537>its a term invented by Marx to describe realities he didn't likeIt was used 16 years before him in the same manner and "capital" - specifically "capitale" - had been used in reference to all things associated now with capitalism since the 13th century. You're a retard like all Ancaps. Now go to /pol/ you fucking faggot.
>>286256269Capitalism can be managed. *Points to China*
Funny how even being rich isn't enough to overcome autism though. All of Elon's peers are smashing prime loli cunny while he gets blown off from all the parties because he weird
>>286272557Being poor and autistic is basically like being dead
>>286255964so.. what about riding giant cyborg fighting aliens? i don't give a shit who ends up with who
>>286255964Yes, but what about the clitoris?
>>286272557It's because money is worthless. Irans currency literally dropped to zero yesterday.
>>286262223It is to those alive
>>286272139Whatever pseud faggot
>>286256900>Entertain me, or I spike you into the fucking garbage where you belong and you don't earn my money. FUCKSAKE.BASED
I WANT to live in reality, but I live somewhere where I HAVE to drive a car in order to even function, and doing so causes me extreme panic and miseryafter nearly 30 years of being alive I still do not have a driver's license, and I cannot even practice behind a wheel without committing a crime and risking severe consequences on top of my own anxietiesI am, quite, literally, not even allowed to TRY to be a human being in the "reality" I live in
>>286255964You mean she rejects fantasy? A dream is a dream until it becomes reality and you can't turn Shinji into whatever Asuka has in his mind, do you know what kind of world they live in? That dream is a lie, Shinji is borderline insane and the world is moments away from turning into a giant red sea. What she says goodbye to is a fantasy, there is no way good old Shinji would ever turn the way he does in that fantasy lol so now she is free to handle the real Shinji (who almost chokes) or finding something else.
>>286255964They are shitty drawings made by shitty people.In the end is just business and Anno likes money more than anything.THAT's the message. Silly otaku.
>>286271177Farming is a very demanding job and completely breaks your spine. But this is Anno what we are talking about, when he thinks of his fans he thinks of borderline chimpanzees so he chooses the lowest common denominator in terms of occupations, basically slave-like jobs while he masturbates to Tomino every day.
>>286255964I'm in a good spot right now. Got my drivers license and will finally start college this year. However though my wife Satania isn't real and this will always make me sad. I will face reality but I don't know if I can love a 3D girl as much as I love her. The real world is cruel and unforgiving. I'm only 24 but as I get older I doubt God exists. Some prayers might have been coincidences. This world is cruel and awful sometimes. Life is good but I will always have that fish bone in my neck of Satania not being real. I will LIVE but it will be with my 2D wife.
>>286255964>stop locking yourself in fantasybullshit fucker hasn't moved on from kamen rider and other tokusatsu and that got him to direct shin godzilla and shin kamen rider
>>286274387Shinji has stopped being a pathetic coward and escape artist, he's stopped playing the victim, and in episode 26 he learns to love himself. After the beach, he'll become a chad
>>286274410>Silly otakuPffft, if only. Faggots who push anti-escapism are mostly anti-otaku
>>286256900You don't need to take it so personally. I can still enjoy these kind of stories despite hating work and having nightmares about high school after graduating over a decade ago.
>>286255964Did you see the short? Unless you’re one of the few thousand people who actually attend the event in Japan, then you didn’t. Only a retard would comment on the meaning of something they haven’t even seen. So why should I even consider your interpretation?
>>286274853he doesn't know
>>286274853hey retard, I'm the OP and I have the damn link with good quality and subtitles, I'm not going to give it to you so you keep suffering and you have to find it yourself
>>286272557izzat +100000000000000
>>286274978Next you’ll tell me you’re a woman
>>286274754>After the beach, he'll become a chadHOWEVER
>>286275569My mom is a woman, checkmate faggot.
>>286275745Lmao, you're still seething you're legitimately are still seething when the fucking short proves your headcanon wrong
>>286275777>>286275722Meant for this retard because this melty has been going on for abou two days now
>>286275777>>286275800>You are MALDING>His hand can't click on the proper post:^)
>>286275777 >>286275833>You are MALDING>His hand can't click on the proper post:^)
>2 years later>a rei short appears
>you moost face reality or somethingI appreciate the idea, I really do, but there's no plot to follow in real life. I don't have some kind of human instrumentality to defeat or whatever, and I'm not an NPC so I can't feel fulfilled working for goyberg and watching sportsball. So what then, Anno?
>>286275981You sound like an insufferable bitch anon, so I'm here to be your instrumentality and tell you to stop being so insufferable and a bitch, there's that.
>>286255964Cute
I mean, thanks I guess Anno, for spelling out what was exceedingly obvious to all of us that weren't deluding ourselves into thinking EoE was a bad end, and thanks I guess for proving different continuities,but I'm still gonna clown on you for releasing the shitpile that are the Rebuilds in the first place.Is this short gonna come out in any official capacity btw or nah?
>>286276073>Is this short gonna come out in any official capacity btw or nah?Nope.
>Asushin can only exist by negating continuity or by overexplaining plain and simple scenariosTruly, the worst side of the fandom, Anno is right to give them crumbs. Based.
>>286276178>negating continuityAlternate timelines, bozo
>>286276212>He can't into the eternal returnDo you even Eva?
>>286276149really? where can I read more about this,was this really gonna be another touhou anime situation if the camrip didn't exist?
>>286276073>Is this short gonna come out in any official capacity btw or nah?No, it's a 30th anniversary event exclusive. Only those that attended the event got to see it.
>>286276212Ignore her she's been going full on meilty and spamming just look at the other thread up.
why do people still hard focus Evangelion when the objectively better Dual! Parallel Trouble released just 4 years later?
>>286276492Its going to to show up sooner or later, its even possible they show it tomorrow on tv for a special showing of the last film that its supposed to have something new
>>286259083>It is one thing to tell people to get a normal job and get married in postwar society, where the material conditions to do so are open and available for all (only time in the history of human beings btw);That's an odd contradiction inherent in your sentence. For even if that one slice of history was unique, people were still getting married and having jobs throughout all of history, the good and the bad times.The issue, to me, is that of the atomization of society. Hard to form deep bonds with people when you can't even form shallow bonds with them.
>>286264620>while china is a peasant nation,China coming so far in a mere few decades -really- tells you just how badly the West pissed away its advantage as well as its resources.It's so weird how they did it as well without massive immigration or diversity. So weird.Oh well better donate another few billion to Israel I guess.
>>286268128KEK
>>286255964Getting a job is the easy part. What do i do now?
Anno's message is more like loving the chicks with big boobs.
>>286265029>>286265174GET IN THE ECONOMY SHINJI>>286265998>Will they get married in the real world?Of course.
So what lvl of Schizo cope is he on now?
>>286277570Charge yo phone nigga
>>286276272That’s just Kaworu’s perspective.
>>286276178>negating continuityThis short affirmed the continuity of the original timeline.
>>286277654>t.seething retardThe funny thing is you use 4chanX you dumb fuck.
>EHHHHH!? Having a child with Baka Shinji in a dream? No thanks!>... because I want triplets AT LEAST!
>>286277014China won because they killed all the landlords
>>286256160Move to Cuba
>>286277962Do you think Anno knew this short would causr people like >>286275833>>286277654 to meltdown this hard?
Basically, Anno's message has always been the same: give me more money you fucking idiots
>>286278137Yeah he knew that people who don’t understand EoE would be mad when he reaffirmed what it meant.
>>286255964No, he ruined the escapism because he found a wife irl. His Shinji self-insert was originally going to end up with Rei, which is how it should have been.
I just watched the short. I feel like dying now.
>>286278137almost certainly
>>286255964>Tomorrow I'm looking for a jobkek who's gonna tell him?
Basically, Anno's message has always been the same ( since gunbuster ): I can't make up my mind and I'm going to make the audience pay for it
>>286273741>pseud faggotLmao the bullet hit
>>286278796Tell him what?
>>286278032>China wonKEKLMAO
>>286262072Shalom
>>286255964>sees her perfect dream—marriage, kids, a life with ShinjiIsn't Anno a childless manchild?
That's just adorable
I agree, anons are acting if the target for eva's message is anyone other than someone who'd relate to shinji. Expecting too much from a niche mecha anime aimed at young adults and teens.
>>286272056>nobody's doing anything to change what we have right nowMilei is
>>286260521Countless /a/nons have made it, faggot>>286278032please find a general 20th century history book and open the 'China' section
>>286278946"those who cannot do, teach"
>>286278858That you are retarded
You guys can have your 'win' in Anno's clusterfuck he can't stop retconning every few years.I got my fill ages ago.
>>286265174From what episode is this?
>>286255964This short made it crystal clear that you're a fucking slopeater who will eat the slop every time he shovels the same thing at you. It made it crystal clear you're a fucking retard projecting your emotional incompetence and relationship failures on an anime about traumatized children you need to make kiss like you're playing with your sister's barbie dolls.Eat the slop, bottomfeeder.
>>286271469Fucking teenage idiot.>y-you don't understand, we need to have Communism b-because we'll all live in peaceful villages and no one will own corporations a-and i'll finally be happy ALSO i'll get a high ranking position in the new system and everyone will respect me and I'll get to exercise my social and political power to make everything do what I want so we can have the utopia
>>286256900I have no sympathy for losers like you.You, alone, fucked your life up from cowardice and pleasure chasing.You, alone, are responsible for the misery you feel.You, alone, are responsible for doing anything about it, which you won't, because you're a loser and a coward.So all you can do is cry about it in every post, every thread, every board of 4chan, to mildly annoy the rest of the world and lower the quality of the site, and that's your "revenge" against the "society" that made things bad for you. Loser.
>>286255964I don't care, OP, I'd spend all my money to watch 9 seasons of these two Asukas talking about their lives, making jokes, and ending their sentences with "nee"
>>286256900>Art, fiction, is a tool I use to maintain what shreds of social levity and grace I have left by distracting me from wanting to go fucking feral in the middle of traffic and strangle the Altima driverthanks for telling me none of your opinions matter at all because you're literally an insane, violent, stunted retard
>>286279003What ahpoened to the "With her own strength. In the real world, even if it's broken" spiel then?
>>286279117Once your wife is too old, there's not much you can do
>>286256900what a manchild
>>286279142Then adopt or child or something or fertikize some womb>even if it's broken
>>286279160some people just can't have kids, and that's life. I'm sure this has been painful enough for them and they're both quite old already.
>>286279248So he doesn't follow his own advice, got it
>>286279115t. Altima driver
>>286255964>but because she wants to BUILD it herself. With her own strength. In the real world, even if it's broken. But she never willWhat did Anno mean by this?
>>286279262cheating on your wife to have a kid at age 65 is hardly following his advice of avoiding escapism, taking the bad with the good is part of life
she's going to cheat on him with touji, all has been prophesied.
>>286279299>cheating on your wife to have a kid at age 65No one auggested this holy ahit kys
>>286279356>or fertikize some womb
>>286279363You are braindead retarded
Has Anno ever defined what he even means by escapism?
>>286279447This.
>>286279447Stop going to escape rooms!
>>286276937I'm not claiming that getting jobs in itself isn't normal, but that the conditions of work are different. Anno tells me to get a job to join a society in which getting a job allows me to buy a house and a car - he sees happiness at the end of the tunnel because the conditions of working and building a family aren't miserable. If I were in 1800s England, and finding a job and having a family meant working 14 hours a day in a factory and having 10 children with my wife because contraception doesn't exist, Anno's message would not hit in the same way.Clearly working and getting married have been going on forever - but under different conditions in different ages. "Just go to work and find a wife to solve your problems" it's a message that only works in a society where working and finding a wife will meet 99% of your material needs and get you socially integrated. Today, working will likely not solve most of your material needs, and marriages and relationships and more frail than ever due to various reasons. That's why it's becoming increasingly harder to take Anno's message seriously.
>>286279491Bottom right looks like an alien sniffing her butt. His got shoulder pads and the sleeves are his ears
>>286279045Closing scene of episode 12
>>286264967Farming isn't depicted as an enjoyable activity, you fucking retard. The point is that building relationships and belonging to a real community is good.
>>286279834Nta>The point is that building relationships and belonging to a real community is good.Nobody is going to sow your field for you, give you grain or help you in any way in a farming community
>>286255964Give me a quick rundown plz.
>>286278953Even though it's undercut by comedy, we get a short glimpse at how asuka would react if shinji was capable of being geniune with her.
>>286279097
>>286279097>your "revenge" against the "society"Is this a copypasta? You don't even know what you're replying to
>>286255964my issue is by depicting what you should do in reality using fiction you are creating something that doesn't exist in reality.
>>286280016>something that doesn't exist in reality.cute girls?
>>286260235being a contrarian or whatever is still living life just as someone following the societal blueprintand they likely have similar amounts of happiness