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Basically, Anno's message has always been the same: stop locking yourself in fantasy (instrumentality) and face the real world. This short just made it crystal clear. Asuka literally sees her perfect dream—marriage, kids, a life with Shinji—and she REJECTS it. Not because she doesn't want it, but because she wants to BUILD it herself. With her own strength. In the real world, even if it's broken. That hit me hard. Watching her choose reality over fantasy, knowing she'll struggle but also knowing she'll actually LIVE... it made me want to do the same. So yeah. Tomorrow I'm looking for a job. Gonna stop being a NEET and try to build something real.
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Yeah this it ultimately has the same message as the other eva's.
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Naruto did the same thing.
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wow this sure needed yet another thread
are you that desperate for (You)s?
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>>286255964
You should also look at the reality where you live in a capitalistic hellhole.
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>>286256160
money isn't real
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>>286256160
To be fair can you really fix that?
People have historically tried and failed like a million times, at this point capitalism is just part of nature.
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Congratulations!
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>>286255964
>hey, guy watching this who has a job:
>GET A JOB
Fuck you too, pal. I honestly hate that preachy shit.
>hey anon, I know you're poor and trapped where you are, but GO OUT and EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD!
The "real world" isn't quirky relationships, or epiphanies on the beach, or "wow I'm no longer an ugly loser and all I had to do was go outside!". It's not a fucking tourist destination. That's somehow more disingenuous than bold-faced escapism. Fiction is, in my opinion, at its lowest when trying to preach down to the low rungs, before about-facing and pretending like it's a "message for everyone". I am not here to be reminded of all the experiences I missed out on because I wasn't cool in high school. I'm not here to attend a lecture on why my largely-necessitated lifestyle that I maintain to fucking live is actually wrong and that I should go romp in the woods with magical talking animals. Art, fiction, is a tool I use to maintain what shreds of social levity and grace I have left by distracting me from wanting to go fucking feral in the middle of traffic and strangle the Altima driver who just cut me off through their window. Don't fucking proselytize some Hallmark bullshit to me. Entertain me, or I spike you into the fucking garbage where you belong and you don't earn my money. FUCKSAKE.
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>>286256900
The irony here is evangelion is probably one of the most escapism anti escapism media ever.
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>>286255964
Doesn't help because the solution always involves love and I cannot love for some reason. My dream is to kill evil powerful people so maybe I should reach for the stars and try to become a sniper. This is what Anno would tell me, I guess. I should be more confident and try.
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>>286256160
When are you leftoids going to learn that fractional reserve banking isn't capitalism.
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I thought anno was done with eva?
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>>286256900
idk sounds like a skill issue to me
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>>286255964
>Basically, Anno's message has always been the same: stop locking yourself in fantasy (instrumentality) and face the real world
Of course. Instrumentality isn't the fantasy world though, the anime medium is.
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>>286255964
Who cares? He's not a very bright guy. Sometimes the author is only a temporary tool of God, stop jerking on the pencil
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>>286257161
>I should be more confident and try.
That's the spirit!
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>>286255964
Haven't watched anything Eva in years but the very idea that Asuka might want to marry and have children with Shinji is crazy to me.
But then again Asuka is nothing if not a fantasy anyways. She complies with and wants whatever the MC wants or whatever makes them feel good in the end because she's a main female character. Her acrimonious character is just a diversion from this fact.
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>>286256160
God i wish we lived in capitalism
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>>286258228
>the very idea that Asuka might want to marry and have children with Shinji is crazy to me
Asuka has created some kind of white knight headcanon version of Shinji out of necessity. Because Asuka cannot function without validation, and with Kaji gone, Shinji became the only way she could get the validation needed for her to function. Problem is, Shinji is a wimp and a lame ass kid, so she creates this distorted image of him and then gets frustrated to no end the real thing doesn't match her expectations, bringing her ego down in the process.
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>>286258538
Nah, Shinji is a chad, he’s just fucked up like she is.
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>>286258570
>Shinji is a chad
A chad would have fucked Misato and get her pregnant. Wait a minute.
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>>286258645
>Kajiposting after Soryu is confirmed Shinjisexual down to her deepest fantasies
Lol
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>>286258645
Kaji is the man Asuka thinks she’s supposed to like.
Shinji is the boy she can’t help but love.
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Just imagine, try to envision, if a week ago you said the reason Asuka rejected instrumentality was so she could get married with Shinji in the real world, the amount of shit you would get from the Reifags.

Yet today we live that world. It's glorious
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>>286258599
lol melty
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>>286255964
>because she wants to BUILD it herself
I am not capable of this, and circumstances outside of my control like my family has been so awful to me that I have no chance to even attempt to grow into my own person

I just have no capability to care or motivate myself to do anything anymore
I am literally rotting away in my childhood room and don't even shower or brush my teeth
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huh i'm surprised there's no kensuke spam so far
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>>286258797
He knows he’ll be laughed at
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>>286256978
''Real life'' is a spook and a lie too. Evangelion is pro-hylic trash
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>>286257190
Of course it is fuckhead
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>>286258797
He's been posting scat and AI slop in every eva thread
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>>286255964
This "facing reality" message may have worked in the 80s and 90s world, but it is completely alienated from the fact that reality today has treats that are becoming more and more nightmarish.
It is one thing to tell people to get a normal job and get married in postwar society, where the material conditions to do so are open and available for all (only time in the history of human beings btw); it is another thing to say this in post-2016, post-pandemic society threatened by global war and the climate crisis, where material well being for middle class people has been obliterated and the possibility to get good job under satisfying conditions has expired.
A lot of boomer authors seem to argue in the direction of "getting back to reality", but the reality into which they got back in their thirties is not the reality in which a millennial or a gen Z has to go back now in their thirties.
The consequence is that their message sounds preachy, out of touch, obsolete and often downright ridiculous. What is needed right now - and I hope millennial and gen z artist can rise to this challenge - is not to return to reality, but to make a genuine, deep, painful effort of the imagination to dream of a different one where life actually become livable. Then we'll be happy to go outside and get to work on that.
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>>286255964
>but because she wants to BUILD it herself
She will forever lack the mental stability to reach it, and Shinji will forever lack the self esteem to make any relationship sustainable.
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>>286255964
Anno's message is several layers of cognition beneath my reality. It is an insipid and trite message, unworthy of being read. You must face reality! The sky is also blue! The pope is rumored to be catholic! There is no revolution here. It's monotonous. It's a message for a man who's afraid if he dreams even once, he'll become addicted to sleep.
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>>286259083
Go outside a kill a boomer then take what life owes you.
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>>286259083
Reminds me of picrel.
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>>286255964
He has nothing new to say since 90s but still keeps milking it.
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>>286258797
Over the last few days the site started paying a service that deals with proxy spam. He basically can't spam the way he used too. Also, he's been having a non-stop melty even tried making a bait thread, posted scat porn, doing the usual schizo shit. It's just now people are ignoring him and laughing at his melty to care
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>>286259206
I'm not owed anything, and I don't think boomer did anything wrong - I would have probably lived exactly like they did, had I been their place. What I am saying is that their message comes from a place where they consider normal things that cannot be considered normal anymore. When they ask me to "enter reality", it's a radically different reality than the one I see around me. I need a different approach, and I need to stop considering "normal" what old people defined as such.
Incidentally, this is a big topic in Tomino's work. Gundam always somewhat implied that younger generations are unpredictable in their setting a standard for what will be "normal" in the future - the whole newtype idea, and the fact that you never get a proper definition of what a newtype is, signifies this exactly. Being a newtype is the same as being young: it means to have unbridled potential for the intuition of new realities, for empathy, for understanding, and for a new world. Tomino always says that he's old and young people should stop revere him and take his place. This is right. It's very sad that Anno did not catch up on this. He's following Miyazaki into this conservative streak of telling people how to behave from above - he cannot meet new generations on their own terms, because he keeps focusing on talking about himself.
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>>286259154
So it's the inverse of The Silver Key
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>>286258669
>>286258691
The version of Shinji Asuka likes is literally a fantasy, a what if Shinji was Kaji.
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>>286255964
No. Anno's message is: "I made new EVA and pandered to the retard fans. Now give me money."
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>>286255964
These "escapism is unhealthy" message seem sound at first glance but it really doesn't stand up to further scrutiny. Nobody really knows what "reality" even is. Our understanding of reality is limited to our perspective and biases. This thread is proof enough of that. Look at how many different opinions people have on what "real" life is like. Posts complaining about capitalism. Posts complaining about the lack of capitalism.
tl;dr Reality is a meme. Everyone lives in a constant state of cope.
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>>286257190
>REAL capitalism has never been tried
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>>286256160
Didn't stop Lenin and Mao, did it?
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>>286256900
>Entertain me, or I spike you into the fucking garbage where you belong and you don't earn my money.
how come a lesson so simple, agreeable and universally understandable as "choose life" cause so much seethe? you dont see little kids throwing a tantrum when bluey tells them its good to share and be kind to others but somehow grown ass men get genuinely triggered by any sorta moral message in media
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>>286255964
nah, fuck reality
what has reality ever done for me?
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>>286255964
>Tomorrow I'm looking for a job
>Gonna stop being a NEET and try to build something real
kek
lmao even
you will quit after a week, if not just not show up the first day
that is if you even get a job in the first place lol
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>>286256269
>at this point capitalism is just part of nature.
Yes. It is. Capitalism literally is not a system, its a term invented by Marx to describe realities he didn't like. Yes, you heard that right, Marx invented the term too, it was his boogeyman, of course he describes it negatively. That's why there's no great founder of capitalism.
"Capitalism" is a recognition of economic realities that morons ignore and pretend they can fight. Its like raging against gravity. You can think you can run the flow of human exchange like the sims and with enough authoritarianism you can do that for a period of time with immense human suffering as the cost.
>>286258864
No it isn't.
>>286260203
Capitalism isn't a thing. Capitalism is not being a retard and thinking you can micromanage every economic decision every human makes at all times.
What is the shit you fuckers always bitch about?
Housing: Highly regulated, not a free market, not allowed to be a free market.
Jobs: Highly regulated, not allowed to run efficiently to force bad socialist policies
Education: Entirely socialist in nature. Government's hand up its ass at every level. Predatory student loan a direct socialist policy with the obvious results socialist pretend never happen (except literally every other time in history they've done this)
Healthcare: The most overregulated, bad socialist bullshit trying to pretend it isn't. Literally the point of Obamacare that has made everything worse ever since.

Everything you hate under "capitalism", absolutely everything, is the socialist cancer fucks like you metastasized into the systems that gum up all the works instead of allowing natural flow. Unless the thing you hate in society is having so many options for products and services that you can't buy all of them, that's a capitalism problem. Or being able to afford and access so much food you ate yourself into obesity.
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>>286256160
Drooling mongoloid retard tranny.
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>>286260235
>choose life
Life is working 9 to 5 for less than minimum wage while doing extra work without payment just to avoid losing your one means of earning money for food.
Creator types who became billionaires are the ones who should learn what life is.
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>>286260235
if you cant understand why people would get mad at such "message" its because you never chose to follow it, or rather never had to make this choice
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>>286257161
You think you're going to be killing anyone relevant as an USAF slave?
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>>286255964
>Watching her choose reality over fantasy, knowing she'll struggle
>woman
>struggle
Yeah alright
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>>286260235
I'm guessing it's because it feels condescending
>woah you're gonna be super duper happy if you live your fricken life bro and stop watching da animays!!!!!!
meanwhile for a lot, if not the vast majority, of people, their actual real life that they're living, usually through no fault of their own, is so shit that suicide is a daily consideration and I'm not really kidding. Telling those people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps 'just' do something about it is naive and frustrating at best, and homicide inducing at worst. It's a complete platitude. It's not a solution and it's not a relevant message.
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for real, i'd rather build my own future
i might have to choose between rent and food, get robbed every week, and will probably die of some condition that could have been easily prevented if i could afford to see a doctor
but hey, i'd rather live in reality than some fantasy land
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>>286259083
>post-pandemic society threatened by global war and the climate crisis, where material well being for middle class people has been obliterated and the possibility to get good job under satisfying conditions has expired.
Lad, did you forget the Cold War was a thing and the advent of "you actually HAVE to go to college now" started way earlier than you think
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>>286255964
>He's taller
I never had a chance
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>>286255964
I'd reject marriage and having a kid with Shinji too. That seems like hell. He's literally a whinny kid who wouldn't do his one job (get in the robot) because he was "depressed"

If she had married him, she'd be the one working while he did jack shit at home.
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>>286256900
>>hey, guy watching this who has a job:
>>GET A JOB
>Fuck you too, pal. I honestly hate that preachy shit.
Get a 2nd job and quit being a loser who watches anime.
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>>286258570
Shinji should have been shoved in a locker if not aborted. Literally has no value to society.
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>>286259083
If you don't face reality, someone more deserving will and you'll justly get replaced.
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>>286256269
Tbf the current kosher infinite debt growth model really doesn't work. Everything has gone to shit to save cost and make infinite profit growth. We can't even find talents anymore as no one wanted to be paid the same rate as indians for cultivating their skill.
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>>286260235
It makes people mad because it clearly comes from much more fortunate people that dont know how lucky they were.
Asking people that work every day to live to "get a life" is really just hypocrite
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>>286262072
"Reality" is not a finite resource retard
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I think Sonny Boy ended up doing this better by specifically portraying that choosing life isn't necessarily gonna be some big eventful thing where everyone cheers and claps for you and celebrates.
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>>286262559
I liked it better when Onani Master Kurosawa did it
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>>286255964
Kek. This is the mental trap where someone easily impressionable watches Evangelion or Welcome to the NHK and gets made to feel ashamed of their being a weeb. There's some resolve to start working towards a "real life", but you're still idealizing the idea of it in the same way that you did with anime. Real life won't reward such idealization in the same way that anime does. Don't let that confuse you OP. Well, I guess you're unhappy so I hope you find yourself in a better place Anon. Maybe it'll be married with a beautiful family, or maybe at the very least it'll be not taking shit so damn seriously.
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>>286256900
Fucking based. And all these fags who get inspired to "change their lives" from fucking cartoons, and respond to real posts like this with patronizing bullshit, are probably like 19 and never struggled a day in their lives. There are no Shinjis in real life because in real life you don't magically get handed some ultimate life purpose by the plot. Anyone who takes Evangelion as some kind of philosophical authority is retarded and mentally a teenager. It's just Anno's gay faggoty little diary.
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>>286260537
I like how you break down how capitalism isn't the big bad some people make it out to be only to hypocritically do the exact same thing with socialism.
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>>286263097
Ganbare me!
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>>286257689
Socrates here is right
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>>286263298
Cute anime girls is cute ofc they fear nothing especially when they are only 15. But (you) 30+ year old anons, should've just gave up already.
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>>286259083
True art, especially youth artistic expression, is being terribly repressed in the West. Dark times indeed.
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>>286263298
I mean, I agree unironically. That's a good attitude to have. Just be ready for it to be nothing like anime.
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>>286263642
asuka have 13
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>>286259083
>but to make a genuine, deep, painful effort of the imagination to dream of a different one where life actually become livable. Then we'll be happy to go outside and get to work on that.
Almost. The one thing I would add, though, is that it can't ignore the reality of hardship. Evangelion's message may be out of touch and a tad magical (we're expected to see ourselves in Shinji even though he is magically fated a clearly defined purpose to his life, and real life doesn't work that way), but at least it acknowledges the reality of hardship. Boomers had opportunities granted to them, but they still had to face a degree of hardship along the way. That will never change.
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>>286261461
You want a gold sticker or something? Shut up faggot
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>>286255964
the reality is that eva always fucking sucked
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>>286262072
It'd be nice if things actually worked that way, but once you turn 22 or so you'll learn how things really work.
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>>286259083
I mean that doesn't actually ignore 'face reality' messages. Going out and making the world you want after acknowledging where reality has failed you is something that a lot of older stories preached too
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>>286261597
>did you forget the Cold War was a thing
>Implying we aren't in a new cold war with china and Russia
At least the last cold war is easy, the enemy is outside and also the underdog when you consider that the Soviet union can't even produce enough jets for their sole aircraft carrier while china is a peasant nation, the threat is only from nukes which no one is insane enough to ever use. Meanwhile millennials and gen z is expected to fight china who produces everything we have thanks to the (((shareholders))) not to mention the enemy is also present inside our border thanks to decades of open border nonsense. Now we have a cold war with the largest industrial nation in the world (built with our tax money) while our own country is managed by 80+ year old boomers and indians.
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>>286260537
Yes, it is, capitalism is the ideology of the supremacy of property owners maximizing their self-interest, in all modern countries it takes the form of jews creating private banks that use fractional reserve lending policies codified into the law to make themselves the de facto ruler.
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>>286262072
Idk man, the people who "replace" me either can't tell how they would feel if they haven't eat a breakfast before or scammers who eat cow dung and believe that they are the master race even if their country is a giant slum.
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>>286264496
Is that a good moral for the average person though?
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>>286264682
Lol the first one is nig and the second is jeet
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>>286256900
This. Half of the time anti-escapism media comes from people who had their life handed to them and never struggled.
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>>286262072
They're too afraid to face the fact that reality is cruel and uncaring. That's why they constantly retreat to anime safe spaces where there is a world full of girls and there is no plot, no action, no forward movement, and no conclusion because the conclusion means facing the fact that everything has a shelf life and thats too scary.
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>>286264666
To be fair, that's more oligarchical than capitalist. You ironically need lots of "socialist" protections written into law to preserve any semblance of capitalism.
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>>286264765
This is really evident in Evangelion. Shinji is given a special destiny that only he can do, and is made undeniably clear to him. Real life doesn't work that way.
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>>286257335
Pretending that Farming is an enjoyable activity is more of a fantasy than instrumentality.
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>>286264931
For most people, their "robot" is the education system and then the economy. Those systems don't always magically harmonize with you and give you superpowers. For many, it does the opposite. The "robot" Evangelion urges us to "get in" is not an otherworldy cosmic thing. It's a flawed system created by stupid humans, and made up of even stupider humans.
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>>286264883
There is no point in drawing a philosophical line between capitalism and oligarchy because if you permit capitalism by definition you permit oligarchy.
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>>286264967
This is what I'm ITT spamming. Treating Evangelion as a philosophical authority is retarded because it will lead you to expect "real life" to replace anime and treat it as this idealized thing.
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>>286265029
Damn, I really never thought about it like that before.
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>>286265029
That's why we're in a world where people have meltdowns when other people have money to spend
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>choose life stop doing escapism
In the past few weeks I found out the guy heading upper management at work is probably a child rapist and will make tens of millions of dollars through a backhanded bet. He won't be punished cause of connections and I can't really leave cause the job market is a dumpster fire. I still have it better than most people since the salary is decent.
"choose life" lmao what a joke
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>>286265341
You're brainrotted beyond the point of no return if all you can take from that is "muh capitalizzum vs muh socializzum". What I mean specifically is, people like you are clearly trained by some e-celebrity to have a dopamine release from taking the side of a Cold War era debate that ended decades ago, and can't see the bigger picture.
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>>286255964
Anno is a fucking retard WITH AN UGLY WIFE
WHY DID HE INSERT HER INTO THE REBUILDS
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>>286255964
Im to depressed to live
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>>286255964
Wait so is this canon to EoE? Will they get married in the real world?
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>>286265998
It's her last-ditch fantasy before she turns her back on Instrumentality
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>>286265998
It's her crackpot headcanon.
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>>286265482
What is this schizo rant? All you're doing is conceding holy shit.
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>>286256160
*Jewish hellhole
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>>286260203
This, but unironically
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>>286260537
>Everything you hate under "capitalism", absolutely everything, is the socialist cancer fucks like you metastasized into the systems that gum up all the works instead of allowing natural flow. Unless the thing you hate in society is having so many options for products and services that you can't buy all of them, that's a capitalism problem. Or being able to afford and access so much food you ate yourself into obesity.
Trvke nvke
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>>286270133
Unironically japanese officer workers need some chutzpah and to kick all the boomer bosses down the gutter
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>>286264967
I don't think the works was presented as enjoyable but connecting to people.
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>all these anons
no you dont get it, its good that lots of people can work a full time job and still never be able to afford a house or to raise a family and if you think you SHOULDN'T work yourself to death for rent ?
well that just makes you a onions chugging, retard tranny lover doesnt it ?
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>>286265998
who gives a fuck at this point ?
anything past the 24 episodes of NGE + EoE is fanfic garbage.
the literal message of eva WAS a warning on why not to be a avoidant bitch reflected by a cast of realistically written flawed characters that got depressingly chugged into whatever makes fat otaku's mental penis twitch.
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>>286256269
>People have historically tried and failed like a million times, at this point capitalism is just part of nature.
Son, capitalism didn't even exist for like 95% of our time as a species
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>>286255964
This short changes nothing about Asuka's characterization. As we can see in EoE, she chooses to return to reality, despite the world being an incredibly hostile and fucked up place that had only ever let her down.

At that point, she had lost all her piloting ability, (her deepest fear of becoming useless and thus unwanted by anyone), her mind attacked and childhood trauma dredged up, had her suicide attempt halted by NERV so they could put her in a coma and awaken her when it was time to use her as a meat shield, whereupon she was fucking dismembered, blinded, and ripped apart until her angry painful demise.

And that's just the cliff notes. Still, she revived and stomped out of the ocean and lay down next to Shinji. And sympathized with him as she was being strangled.

After everything, she still chooses life and optimism.
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>>286256900
You should strangle that Altima driver, though.
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>>286259083
Agree. That's why the ending of Sonny Boy falls kida flat.
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>>286262072
Everybody is facing reality, retard, thing is, nobody's doing anything to change what we have right now.
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>>286256213
but magic is, and money is a magic device
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>>286256900
>IF YOU DON'T DISTRACT ME FROM THE LIFE I HATE I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF
Not every piece of art is for everyone, and not every message is needed for everyone. You're such a loser.
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>>286262764
Because there reality at least aknowledge the posibility of connections with other human beings. Maybe that the best fiction can offer right now.
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>>286260537
>its a term invented by Marx to describe realities he didn't like
It was used 16 years before him in the same manner and "capital" - specifically "capitale" - had been used in reference to all things associated now with capitalism since the 13th century. You're a retard like all Ancaps. Now go to /pol/ you fucking faggot.
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>>286256269
Capitalism can be managed. *Points to China*
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Funny how even being rich isn't enough to overcome autism though. All of Elon's peers are smashing prime loli cunny while he gets blown off from all the parties because he weird
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>>286272557
Being poor and autistic is basically like being dead
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>>286255964
so.. what about riding giant cyborg fighting aliens? i don't give a shit who ends up with who
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>>286255964
Yes, but what about the clitoris?
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>>286272557
It's because money is worthless. Irans currency literally dropped to zero yesterday.
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>>286262223
It is to those alive
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>>286272139
Whatever pseud faggot
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>>286256900
>Entertain me, or I spike you into the fucking garbage where you belong and you don't earn my money. FUCKSAKE.
BASED
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I WANT to live in reality, but I live somewhere where I HAVE to drive a car in order to even function, and doing so causes me extreme panic and misery
after nearly 30 years of being alive I still do not have a driver's license, and I cannot even practice behind a wheel without committing a crime and risking severe consequences on top of my own anxieties
I am, quite, literally, not even allowed to TRY to be a human being in the "reality" I live in
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>>286255964
You mean she rejects fantasy? A dream is a dream until it becomes reality and you can't turn Shinji into whatever Asuka has in his mind, do you know what kind of world they live in? That dream is a lie, Shinji is borderline insane and the world is moments away from turning into a giant red sea. What she says goodbye to is a fantasy, there is no way good old Shinji would ever turn the way he does in that fantasy lol so now she is free to handle the real Shinji (who almost chokes) or finding something else.
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>>286255964
They are shitty drawings made by shitty people.
In the end is just business and Anno likes money more than anything.
THAT's the message. Silly otaku.
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>>286271177
Farming is a very demanding job and completely breaks your spine. But this is Anno what we are talking about, when he thinks of his fans he thinks of borderline chimpanzees so he chooses the lowest common denominator in terms of occupations, basically slave-like jobs while he masturbates to Tomino every day.
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>>286255964
I'm in a good spot right now. Got my drivers license and will finally start college this year. However though my wife Satania isn't real and this will always make me sad. I will face reality but I don't know if I can love a 3D girl as much as I love her. The real world is cruel and unforgiving. I'm only 24 but as I get older I doubt God exists. Some prayers might have been coincidences. This world is cruel and awful sometimes. Life is good but I will always have that fish bone in my neck of Satania not being real. I will LIVE but it will be with my 2D wife.
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>>286255964
>stop locking yourself in fantasy
bullshit fucker hasn't moved on from kamen rider and other tokusatsu and that got him to direct shin godzilla and shin kamen rider
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>>286274387
Shinji has stopped being a pathetic coward and escape artist, he's stopped playing the victim, and in episode 26 he learns to love himself. After the beach, he'll become a chad
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>>286274410
>Silly otaku
Pffft, if only. Faggots who push anti-escapism are mostly anti-otaku
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>>286256900
You don't need to take it so personally. I can still enjoy these kind of stories despite hating work and having nightmares about high school after graduating over a decade ago.
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>>286255964
Did you see the short? Unless you’re one of the few thousand people who actually attend the event in Japan, then you didn’t. Only a retard would comment on the meaning of something they haven’t even seen. So why should I even consider your interpretation?
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>>286274853
he doesn't know
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>>286274853
hey retard, I'm the OP and I have the damn link with good quality and subtitles, I'm not going to give it to you so you keep suffering and you have to find it yourself
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>>286272557
izzat +100000000000000
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>>286274978
Next you’ll tell me you’re a woman
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>>286274754
>After the beach, he'll become a chad
HOWEVER
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>>286275569
My mom is a woman, checkmate faggot.
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>>286275745
Lmao, you're still seething you're legitimately are still seething when the fucking short proves your headcanon wrong
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>>286275722
Meant for this retard because this melty has been going on for abou two days now
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>>286275800
>You are MALDING
>His hand can't click on the proper post
:^)
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>>286275777
>>286275833
>You are MALDING
>His hand can't click on the proper post
:^)
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>2 years later
>a rei short appears
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>you moost face reality or something
I appreciate the idea, I really do, but there's no plot to follow in real life. I don't have some kind of human instrumentality to defeat or whatever, and I'm not an NPC so I can't feel fulfilled working for goyberg and watching sportsball. So what then, Anno?
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>>286275981
You sound like an insufferable bitch anon, so I'm here to be your instrumentality and tell you to stop being so insufferable and a bitch, there's that.
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>>286255964
Cute
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I mean, thanks I guess Anno, for spelling out what was exceedingly obvious to all of us that weren't deluding ourselves into thinking EoE was a bad end, and thanks I guess for proving different continuities,

but I'm still gonna clown on you for releasing the shitpile that are the Rebuilds in the first place.

Is this short gonna come out in any official capacity btw or nah?
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>>286276073
>Is this short gonna come out in any official capacity btw or nah?
Nope.
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>Asushin can only exist by negating continuity or by overexplaining plain and simple scenarios
Truly, the worst side of the fandom, Anno is right to give them crumbs. Based.
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>>286276178
>negating continuity
Alternate timelines, bozo
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>>286276212
>He can't into the eternal return
Do you even Eva?
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>>286276149
really? where can I read more about this,
was this really gonna be another touhou anime situation if the camrip didn't exist?
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>>286276073
>Is this short gonna come out in any official capacity btw or nah?
No, it's a 30th anniversary event exclusive. Only those that attended the event got to see it.
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>>286276212
Ignore her she's been going full on meilty and spamming just look at the other thread up.
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why do people still hard focus Evangelion when the objectively better Dual! Parallel Trouble released just 4 years later?
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>>286276492
Its going to to show up sooner or later, its even possible they show it tomorrow on tv for a special showing of the last film that its supposed to have something new
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>>286259083
>It is one thing to tell people to get a normal job and get married in postwar society, where the material conditions to do so are open and available for all (only time in the history of human beings btw);
That's an odd contradiction inherent in your sentence. For even if that one slice of history was unique, people were still getting married and having jobs throughout all of history, the good and the bad times.

The issue, to me, is that of the atomization of society. Hard to form deep bonds with people when you can't even form shallow bonds with them.
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>>286264620
>while china is a peasant nation,
China coming so far in a mere few decades -really- tells you just how badly the West pissed away its advantage as well as its resources.
It's so weird how they did it as well without massive immigration or diversity. So weird.
Oh well better donate another few billion to Israel I guess.
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>>286268128
KEK
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>>286255964
Getting a job is the easy part. What do i do now?
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Anno's message is more like loving the chicks with big boobs.
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>>286265029
>>286265174
GET IN THE ECONOMY SHINJI

>>286265998
>Will they get married in the real world?
Of course.
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So what lvl of Schizo cope is he on now?
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>>286277570
Charge yo phone nigga
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>>286276272
That’s just Kaworu’s perspective.
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>>286276178
>negating continuity
This short affirmed the continuity of the original timeline.
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>>286277654
>t.seething retard
The funny thing is you use 4chanX you dumb fuck.
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>EHHHHH!? Having a child with Baka Shinji in a dream? No thanks!
>... because I want triplets AT LEAST!
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>>286277014
China won because they killed all the landlords
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>>286256160
Move to Cuba
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>>286277962
Do you think Anno knew this short would causr people like >>286275833
>>286277654 to meltdown this hard?
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Basically, Anno's message has always been the same: give me more money you fucking idiots
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>>286278137
Yeah he knew that people who don’t understand EoE would be mad when he reaffirmed what it meant.
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>>286255964
No, he ruined the escapism because he found a wife irl. His Shinji self-insert was originally going to end up with Rei, which is how it should have been.
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I just watched the short. I feel like dying now.
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>>286278137
almost certainly
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>>286255964
>Tomorrow I'm looking for a job
kek who's gonna tell him?
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Basically, Anno's message has always been the same ( since gunbuster ): I can't make up my mind and I'm going to make the audience pay for it
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>>286273741
>pseud faggot
Lmao the bullet hit
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>>286278796
Tell him what?
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>>286278032
>China won
KEKLMAO
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>>286262072
Shalom
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>>286255964
>sees her perfect dream—marriage, kids, a life with Shinji
Isn't Anno a childless manchild?
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That's just adorable
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I agree, anons are acting if the target for eva's message is anyone other than someone who'd relate to shinji. Expecting too much from a niche mecha anime aimed at young adults and teens.
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>>286272056
>nobody's doing anything to change what we have right now
Milei is
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>>286260521
Countless /a/nons have made it, faggot

>>286278032
please find a general 20th century history book and open the 'China' section
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>>286278946
"those who cannot do, teach"
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>>286278858
That you are retarded
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You guys can have your 'win' in Anno's clusterfuck he can't stop retconning every few years.
I got my fill ages ago.
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>>286265174
From what episode is this?
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>>286255964
This short made it crystal clear that you're a fucking slopeater who will eat the slop every time he shovels the same thing at you. It made it crystal clear you're a fucking retard projecting your emotional incompetence and relationship failures on an anime about traumatized children you need to make kiss like you're playing with your sister's barbie dolls.

Eat the slop, bottomfeeder.
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>>286271469
Fucking teenage idiot.
>y-you don't understand, we need to have Communism b-because we'll all live in peaceful villages and no one will own corporations a-and i'll finally be happy ALSO i'll get a high ranking position in the new system and everyone will respect me and I'll get to exercise my social and political power to make everything do what I want so we can have the utopia
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>>286256900
I have no sympathy for losers like you.

You, alone, fucked your life up from cowardice and pleasure chasing.
You, alone, are responsible for the misery you feel.
You, alone, are responsible for doing anything about it, which you won't, because you're a loser and a coward.

So all you can do is cry about it in every post, every thread, every board of 4chan, to mildly annoy the rest of the world and lower the quality of the site, and that's your "revenge" against the "society" that made things bad for you.

Loser.
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>>286255964
I don't care, OP, I'd spend all my money to watch 9 seasons of these two Asukas talking about their lives, making jokes, and ending their sentences with "nee"
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>>286256900
>Art, fiction, is a tool I use to maintain what shreds of social levity and grace I have left by distracting me from wanting to go fucking feral in the middle of traffic and strangle the Altima driver
thanks for telling me none of your opinions matter at all because you're literally an insane, violent, stunted retard
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>>286279003
What ahpoened to the "With her own strength. In the real world, even if it's broken" spiel then?
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>>286279117
Once your wife is too old, there's not much you can do
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>>286256900
what a manchild
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>>286279142
Then adopt or child or something or fertikize some womb
>even if it's broken
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>>286279160
some people just can't have kids, and that's life. I'm sure this has been painful enough for them and they're both quite old already.
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>>286279248
So he doesn't follow his own advice, got it
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>>286279115
t. Altima driver
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>>286255964
>but because she wants to BUILD it herself. With her own strength. In the real world, even if it's broken.
But she never will

What did Anno mean by this?
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>>286279262
cheating on your wife to have a kid at age 65 is hardly following his advice of avoiding escapism, taking the bad with the good is part of life
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she's going to cheat on him with touji, all has been prophesied.
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>>286279299
>cheating on your wife to have a kid at age 65
No one auggested this holy ahit kys
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>>286279356
>or fertikize some womb
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>>286279363
You are braindead retarded
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Has Anno ever defined what he even means by escapism?
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>>286279447
This.
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>>286279447
Stop going to escape rooms!
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>>286276937
I'm not claiming that getting jobs in itself isn't normal, but that the conditions of work are different. Anno tells me to get a job to join a society in which getting a job allows me to buy a house and a car - he sees happiness at the end of the tunnel because the conditions of working and building a family aren't miserable. If I were in 1800s England, and finding a job and having a family meant working 14 hours a day in a factory and having 10 children with my wife because contraception doesn't exist, Anno's message would not hit in the same way.
Clearly working and getting married have been going on forever - but under different conditions in different ages. "Just go to work and find a wife to solve your problems" it's a message that only works in a society where working and finding a wife will meet 99% of your material needs and get you socially integrated. Today, working will likely not solve most of your material needs, and marriages and relationships and more frail than ever due to various reasons. That's why it's becoming increasingly harder to take Anno's message seriously.
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>>286279491
Bottom right looks like an alien sniffing her butt. His got shoulder pads and the sleeves are his ears
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>>286279045
Closing scene of episode 12
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>>286264967
Farming isn't depicted as an enjoyable activity, you fucking retard. The point is that building relationships and belonging to a real community is good.
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>>286279834
Nta
>The point is that building relationships and belonging to a real community is good.
Nobody is going to sow your field for you, give you grain or help you in any way in a farming community
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>>286255964
Give me a quick rundown plz.
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>>286278953
Even though it's undercut by comedy, we get a short glimpse at how asuka would react if shinji was capable of being geniune with her.
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>>286279097
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>>286279097
>your "revenge" against the "society"
Is this a copypasta? You don't even know what you're replying to
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>>286255964
my issue is by depicting what you should do in reality using fiction you are creating something that doesn't exist in reality.
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>>286280016
>something that doesn't exist in reality.
cute girls?
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>>286260235
being a contrarian or whatever is still living life just as someone following the societal blueprint
and they likely have similar amounts of happiness
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Anyone have the leak?
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>>286279891
>gets so giddy at an absolute bare minimum romantic gesture that she nearly accidentally kills Shinji by uppercutting him off a cliff
heh, who knew she was THIS vulnerable to affection?
also, unlike the other scenarios she rejects, she refuses to go back into this one (until "next time") because it's too embarrasing
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Evafags lives must be extremely simple and dull for them to fall for this stupid reductive diseased jap work culture bullshit over and over again.
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>>286280351
Yes, check the other threads



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