Are Servants stronger than Dead Apostles in the Fate universe?
>>286256354depends
It doesn't matter
>>286256401You're mentally ill
>>286256615From my perspective, everyone else is crazy
>>286256668THEN YOU ARE LOST
The only thing that tops servants are counter gradians. You can be a dead apostle and a servant at the same time.
>>286256354They're not stronger than high-ranking DA.High-ranking DA are explicitly stated to be comparable to Gods even in the Fate universe:>Even in the Clock Tower, it was unheard of someone with 500 magic circuits. Even the exceptionally talented Rin only had around 100.>[...]>Ruolong had practically declared that he was a monstrous being comparable to a high-ranking Dead Apostle.>Whether or not one can see through the fact that he is actually a god is another matter.We also have examples of this with Van Fem fighting against Zagreus and Zepia fighting against Wuzhiki of the Summit Court. A single one of Van Fem's golems can output as much energy as Rhongomyniad with a single punch.
>>286258091500 magic circuits sound pretty low for a god. It's only 5x thst of Rin's.
>>286256354They used to be. But since FGO powerscaled the setting to hell and back, Nasu adjusted the powerlevel of DAs. Now high tier DAs (Rank 7 and above) mog Servants.
>>286258385Saber is only like 2x Rin in magical energy if you might recall.
How is Zouken subject to soul rot so soon if Nero and Roa are like 900 years old and better than ever in that regard? I guess Roa can be excused because he's supposed to be an inhumanly skilled magi when it comes to the soul but Nero is just 900 years old without any explanation.
>>286259779Zouken's soul is human. Nero and Roa are vampires, and vampirization changes your soul.
>>286256354Regular servants are stronger than most Dead Apostles, but get outclassed by the high tier ones.I'm pretty sure that FGO bullshit like "Grands" can compete with the higher tier DAs, though. The powerlevels there have become absolutely silly.
>>286259852Why didn't Zouken just become a vampire then instead of attempting the third magic?
>>286259899Didn't know how, probably. Zouken did the best he could with what he had, and he got pretty strong doing it, he just didn't have what it took to go all the way so he tried to use the holy grail war as a shortcut.
>>286256354Arcueid is a special case, but generally Servants are stronger than everyone else.
>>286259899Nasu answered this and he said Zouken doesn't have the aptitude, plus the Church would be after him:Q: Did Zouken have a choice to become a Dead Apostle when he sought immortality? If he did, I'd like to know why he didn't transform into a Dead Apostle. <Pon De>Nasu: If you become a vampire, the Holy Church will be after you all the time, so he couldn't take that risk. If his objective (goal) was to become "immortal", he may have turned into a vampire, but other than that, well, it's whether or not he had the talent to become a vampire. There are only about 27 idiosyncratic people like a certain Ms Yumizuka and her "You thought I was common? but I'm actually SSR!" in this world!Takeuchi: What? Aren't there actually a few more out there?Nasu: Yeah, let's say we undercounted and add about three more.
>>286259940Gods are explicitly stronger than Servants. Always have been.And Gods are explicitly compared to high-ranking DAs (non-Ancestors).
>>286259968Trying to dodge executors until you can still sounds more feasible than pulling off the third magic without a hitch.
>>286260001Difficult if your plan is to use the holy grail war to do it, though, since that's something that the church is always involved in. It would be like trying to set up your drug ring right next door to the donut shop across the street from the police station. You are absolutely going to get caught and when you do the hammer is going to come down hard.
>>286256401Yuji, back to your failed manga, we're talking about real quality shit here.
