What makes yurifags so insane that they need to make these threads over and over again?

>>286287396
Mental illness.

watching other men get pussy is cuckoldry
you can avoid this problem by simply making both characters women

>>286287396
guy not hot, girl hot.
not hot + hot = maybe hot
hot + hot = very hot

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>>286287396
Those two love men though

I don’t know. I’m a straight male so I don’t care about lesbians because there’s nothing I can do with them other than voyuer/rape/agp none of which is my fetish. You’ll have to ask the target audience.

>>286287396
>romance
You could have said sex but this is where your take is faggotry. No sane guy gives a shit about melodrama dogshit love between women they only care about them fucking each other. The only fags who care about it are bunch of equally mentally ill retards as any sexual minority.

>>286287804
>I’m a straight male so I don’t care about lesbians

Nah you're a faggot. Lesbians is a straight male fetish

>>286287396
twice the amount of titties

>>286287867
Lesbians is almost certainly a lesbian fetish actually, straight men have absolutely nothing to do with specifically lesbians or their business unless they have one of those 3 fetishes.

>>286287433
They're mentally ill and are servants of the devil, the only true union of love is between man and woman.

>>286287433
He's clearly a retarded baiter

>>286287396
Homosexuality is never right. No matter how you slice it.

>>286287396
the fans like you!

>>286287396
Girl=boobs
Two girls=More boobs

>>286287396
Forget OP, how do you even breathe?

>>286287396
Why do yuritroons who hate heterosexuality and hate being men constantly larp as straight men?

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>>286287396
Nothing, because it doesn't

>>286287396
Normie guys and normie girls both like it. It's not like Yaoi where your audience is only Fujos and gays.

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>>286287804
This
Yuri is only good in porn from time to time, there's no actual good yuri/yaoi romance.
/thread

>>286287433
same reason why they keep posting on /a/ while /u/ is a dead board
they are insecure attention whores

>>286288824
this fucking shit is so tiresome, the worst thing is i don't think it's memeing. i think retards like this anon actually believe this shit.
you should no joke find a bridge and jump off it.

>>286287921
>a straight man loses his boner when seeing two attractive women
nah m8, you're not straight.

>>286287396
1+1>1-1

>>286287396
It doesn't, actual romance can't be achieved between faggots. Yuri is only good in doujinshi

>>286289020
>a woman who would never have sex with me has sex with a man
HEEEEEEEEEELP I'M LITERALLY GETTING NTR'D
>a woman who would never have sex with me has sex with another woman who would never have sex with me
This is fine. I'm totally not getting double cucked.

>>286288824
>You are still a cuck for watching you retard
So you think anyone watching porn is a cuck
but somehow you people never say this in threads about other types of porn.

>>286289020
>>286287561
Why yurifags self insert as women but can't self insert as men?

Romance stories are better if its a man and a woman.
Pornography is better if its two women.

>>286287804
>because there’s nothing I can do with them
You can't do anything with characters on your screens regardless of whether they're straight or lesbian.
What you meant to say is that you're a mentally ill faggot who needs to self-insert and cannot enjoy stories otherwise.

>>286287804
You can't do anything with straight girls either, so I'm not sure what the difference is.

>>286287396
There is literally nothing more subhuman than a yuritranny.

>>286289120
>Romance stories are better if its a man and a woman.
>Pornography is better if its two women.
Correct. The ultimate goal of romance is for the pairing to produce offsprings. Faggots cant do that

>>286289109
only retards self-insert, they are incapable of evaluating fiction on the merits.
i suppose if you're so deranged your only way of engaging with fiction is self-inserting, it explains why you believe insane shit like >>286288824

>>286288962
Retard normies don't about your niche genre. And compared number of yuri fans fujos outnumber them by many times.

>>286287804
Kek this got the c/u/cks steamin and sizzlin.

>>286289109
The only thing I insert is my dick in your mom's asshole.

>>286289159
You are so retarded you just argumented against yourself. Not that i expect a yuricuck to have a brain though

>>286289040
Attraction literally means that I am being attracted to have sex with someone, if they’re unfuckable, they’re not attractive. “Two attractive women” can easily be accomplished without involving voyuerism/rape/agp

>>286287396
The better question is why do you faggots keep thinking about het romance if you hate it so much?

>>286289196
>see two hot women
>pp up
>hot women kiss
>pp down
no one normal is like this dude, you're delusional if you think this is normal behavior.

>>286289159
>i dont watch normal romance because im not le cuck bro i cant read a story with a man because im not a cuck hehehe
>fuck yeah i love watching two women fuck while i self insert in the corner bro but i would never ever try to fuck a hecking pure yuri girl
post-2014 yurifags are retarded

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>>286287396
Girls are cute. Girls kissing girls is twice as cute.

>>286289120
this is the exact opposite of the truth.
Yuri romance is so much better than regular romance because it removes the beta faggot MC or the shoujo rapeman male lead, and instead lets the two main characters actually develop an interesting dynamic because there's less established "rules" for how each of them should act.
Yuri porn has to work a lot harder than straight porn to not be boring though.

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>>286289197
>why do you faggots keep thinking about het romance if you hate it so much?
this

>another necrobump bait thread
Retards don't reply to his shit thread you're only giving that subhuman attention

>>286289217
There is nothing about voyuerism that is inherently special to me. Nothing you’re describing can’t be attained without the yuri aspect. Voyeurs have a tendency to dramatically overestimate the popularity of their fetish.

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>>286289252
>Yuri romance is so much better than regular romance because it removes the beta faggot MC or the shoujo rapeman male lead
Yeah and instead it replaces them with beta literal faggot female MC or the rapegirl female lead.

Yurifags are so insecure it's unreal.

>>286289065
Yes. That’s the point, stop masturbating.

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>>286289264
I'm not bumping shit, the yurifags whose concept of normal romance are 2 mainstream romcoms that they never even read are

>>286289281
I don't think i've ever seen a beta-faggot MC in yuri. there are demure girls, but they never reach the level of insufferable beta-ness that shonen romcom MCs have to be to get passed the editors.
and rapegirls only exist in shit yuri.

>>286289252
>Yuri romance is so much better than regular romance because it removes the beta faggot MC or the shoujo rapeman male lead, and instead lets the two main characters actually develop an interesting dynamic because there's less established "rules" for how each of them should act.
Nah mate you're just insecure about any male lead.

>>286287396
i don't think it's better in some unnuanced way.
i like it because girls are prettier >>286287634 >>286287665 >>286289233. i like cute personalities, but men have them only sometimes, it's a lower maximum of cuteness and it can feel faggy.
i also don't like team sports type bonding or gym rats, fujos can watch that if they want i don't wan't bishis wasting screen time.
and uh, yuri feels more equal? there isn't a gender segregation of roles, so both can have weak and strong moments, one side doesn't have to be socially cucked out of wanting hugs or crying.
yuri just works for romance, often times.

>>286289450
>ehrm chud, yuri girls are not ''beta'' they are hecking demure
Right. Also they are all faggots, as its literally a lesbian story.
>but they never reach the level of insufferable beta-ness that shonen romcom MCs
It's the same shit, but you're insecure. Also, you never read anything other than romcoms

>>286289467
not insecure, just tired of the common tropes. Likable male leads like Jun from Tomo-chan are great, or even goofballs like Raido from Aharen-san. it's just that you see a ton of bad ones for every good one and it gets tiresome to dig through them.
I'll certainly admit my fondness for yuri is mostly that its just a novelty and if i read to many i'm sure i'd start to see tropes i hate too, but it'll take quite a while to get to that point since my yuri reading is decades behind compared to my experience with regular romcoms and romance manga.

>>286289477
Exactly because of the reasons you stated that yuri and BL suck for romance
also in 99% of yuri there's always powerplay and rape

>>286289634
you have completely different taste buds than me then, and i don't envy yours at all.

>>286289673
Goes both ways, you write in a very low test feminine way

mental illness

>>286289450
Why do you hate shoujo male leads? Isn't it said that women write better romance? And isn't it the same for yuri since the majority of nip yuri is produced by women? Also isn't yuri filled with menhera type of shit?

>>286289746
anon, imagine my pain when i want to put a villainess show on and there's another rapechud CV umehara. how many times can you listen to him?

>>286289063
>actual romance can't be achieved between faggots
Good for you on coming out

>>286289853
???

>>286287433
They want to make people look at their boring shit

>>286287396
Both can be good or bad, but the reason why yuri tends to be more enjoyable nowadays is because you aren't allowed to write sexually aggressive or perverted male MCs anymore.
A female MC can be a literal rapist and your work will barely get backlash. Yuri gives romance/ecchi writers a bit more freedom in our current censorship-loving environment.

>>286289159
You yurifags selfinsert as one of the girls lmao, you were exposed hard by that Ryza audio thing

>>286289866
Oh, you're ESL
I'll make it easier for you: Thank you for confirming your homosexuality since you'll never achieve actual or fictional romance

>>286289746
>Also isn't yuri filled with menhera type of shit?
When i think of yuri i think of stuff like Futaribeya, which is just a slow slice of life "two people growing together until they fall in love" type of story. I'm not gonna deny stuff like citrus exists, but I'm not really a fan of all that forced drama.

>muh male mc
It doesn’t make sense for someone who claims to want a more masculine male lead to turn around and say he’d rather have one that is literally female. Certainly some MCs are better than others, but all of these shows come with an extremely hot straight woman to lust over, I don’t understand why you shouldn’t focus on her or otherwise just consume shoujo instead.

>>286289954
That still doesn't make any sense. You call me an ESL, but you can't even correctly read the post i made lol

>>286289983
You say normal romcoms are bad because you think all mcs are beta shy boys like you described, but for some reason you dismissed the fact Citrus is one of if not the biggest yuri manga and the blueprint for a lot of yuri stories

>>286287561
This would be a compelling point if most nu-yurifags didn't started melting down if you ever show lust for one of the girls in their stories.

>>286290065
>or otherwise just consume shoujo instead
but shoujo is full of boring male love interests?
it's only good when the feMC is great and all of the rest of production elements are decent.

>>286289746
>Also isn't yuri filled with menhera type of shit?
>>286290065
>It doesn’t make sense for someone who claims to want a more masculine male lead to turn around and say he’d rather have one that is literally female
them saying they think yuri is better because there's no ''beta MCs'' always gets me for this reason
most yuri is the same shit as the average romcom slop but with no male protagonist

>>286290164
Then I don’t know what to tell you because the appeal of shoujo is the male love interest and the appeal of shonen is the female love interest. Perhaps the entire industry has failed you, or it wasn’t relevant in the first place.

>>286287396
Because it has more appealing romantic tropes. It seems to me that a lot of popular seinen/shounen romance is more built towards the fantasy of being desired by women rather than building or maintaining a relationship with one. This is why harems are so prevalent. If this isn’t your fantasy, then the structure where the story basically continues indefinitely until the leads finally get together and ends shortly after is more frustrating than appealing. I would much rather voyueristically enjoy a cute, initiate relationship than read 200 chapters of a girl being to nice to me because we share the same hobbies. I can read hentai to indulge my self-insert fantasies.

>>286290230
nah i liked rishe's show a lot, and honzuki, and much of the other villainess slop, but not for the male leads.

>>286290068
>That still doesn't make any sense
So you lack reading comprehension as well. Your post was completely understood, but you seem to lack the logic necessary to understand my reply. Such is the fate of third world antiyurifags like yourself.

>>286290262
>rather than building or maintaining a relationship with one
Most Reiwa romance manga are all about this. The main pairing gets together on the first ~10 chapters

>>286290316
I think you're just retarded, realized you were wrong and now is trying to save face. It would be less embarrassing if you simply stopped replying but alas you're a yurifag

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>>286290225
>most yuri is the same shit as the average romcom slop but with no male protagonist
The difference is the relationship speed and presence of side couples. Most yuri romance will have the leads kiss by the third volume, even if the story continues afterwards. They also allow side couples that can act as contrast for the main ones. Most romcoms on the other hand, seem to have ditched giving the male friend character a girl of his own.

>>286287396
nothing, it isnt

>>286290225
>most yuri is the same shit as the average romcom slop but with no male protagonist
So better you're saying. The interesting part of romcoms are the girls, since they usually aren't empty self-inserts like the MC is and have some depth to them. Having two interesting characters engaging in romance is better than one, pretty simple.

>>286290346
>n-no u
The final cope of a retarded antiyurifag. Sad.

>>286290321
Certainly not most of the seinen/shounen ones that become popular. So why am I to go digging through all those series to find the rare series that fits my taste when 60-70% of yuri romance already suffices.

>>286290388
>yuri is better because of uh, side pairings
>and they kiss on the third volume
you really have not read any romance manga at all, all the romance manga i read have side pairings, usually with the MCs friends hooking up and the MCs get together on the first few chapters
>>286290417
>So better you're saying
no, the same shit is what i'm saying can't you read, faggot?
>bland MC
>bland MC, lesbian

>>286290501
>bland MC, lesbian
name 5

>>286290461
>Certainly not most of the seinen/shounen ones that become popular
One of the biggest romance anime that was airing recently with the tomboy girl and the white haired MC had them to get together on like the first or second episode.
>So why am I to go digging through all those series to find the rare series that fits my taste when 60-70% of yuri romance already suffices
Atleast you finally admitted you don't read romance manga

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i'm pretty sure this dork's pure cinema romance wouldn't have developed as it did if she was a guy. shima would have gotten the ick several times, and wouldn't allow the skinship that broke a lot of ice.

>>286287396
>Male mc is a chud
>gets called a faggot
>Male mc is a blatant pervert
>gets called a faggot
>Male mc is a incestfag
>gets called a faggot
>Male mc is a salaryman trying his hardest
>gets called a faggot
>Male mc is a pushy rapechad
>too problematic
>Male mc is a normal high school or college boy
>too boring
>Male mc is a pathetic poorfag with no confidence
>gets called a faggot
MaleMCs in het can't get away with shit these days but turn them into a FemMC and everyone claps.

>>286290566
You can even see it in this very thread
Shy male MCs are beta, shy female MCs are ''demure''

>>286290262
>is more built towards the fantasy of being desired by women rather than building or maintaining a relationship with one
Because the author is just introducing you to the girl, not telling you exactly how your relationship with her would play out. I don’t understand why people want to be railroaded through the whole fantasy. It’s the same reason I don’t watch hentai for this kind of fantasy because I don’t want to endure the author’s personal fetish fantasy.

>>286290447
>no argument
I accept your concession.
But to answer your question, no. Yuri is not better than straight romance. The best yuri doesn't hold a candle to the above average rom

>>286290501
>the romance manga i read have side pairings, usually with the MCs friends hooking up and the MCs get together on the first few chapters
Then you are blind to the vast state of the modern seinen/shounen romance genre. The most popular works are ones like Nagataro and Sono Bisque which are the exact opposite of those qualities.

I will admit that shoujo romance is usually better and more in line with what I want, but much of the fan service of those works is focused on the guy rather than girl, which makes it harder to get into.

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>>286290625
>Then you are blind to the vast state of the modern seinen/shounen romance genre
I'm not, as i actually read romance manga
>The most popular works are ones like Nagataro and Sono Bisque which are the exact opposite of those qualities.
As i stated above >>286289432, the same 2 mainstream romcom example every time.
Not to mention, Nagatoro and Sono Bisque ended like half a decade ago

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>>286290580
Yes, exactly, a shy women is cute, a shy man is well this

>>286290616
>not telling you exactly how your relationship with her would play out
But that’s exactly what I am interested in. After I’ve read.manga for 1-2 volumes, I already have a pretty good sense of the girl.

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>>286290708
>it's the same yuriautist with a hate boner for Nagatoro from the other thread https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/286026457/#q286033218

>>286290708
>this
what? ai-slop cuckshit made by a yuritard?

>>286290812
I have no idea what you are talking about, this is just a scene from the anime.

The only contact i have with yurifags are through gacha and Uma Musume and they are all subhumans

>>286290671
>the same 2 mainstream romcom example every time.
If someone names any of the random, less popular anime that follow in their footsteps, you’ll say they more irrelevant. From this season, you have Osananajimi to wa Love Comedy ni Naranai. Even more than that, you have people in this very thread who are defending the decision to not focus on the romantic part and instead focus on the chase. It’s a simple fact that this is what a lot of modern seinen/shounen romance audience wants out of their romance.

>>286290812
Those two posts are by two different people.

>>286290844
It isnt but i understand why a yurifag would go out of his way to consume cuckshit

>>286290916
Oh wow you can't call Nagatoro this anon

i sort of understand why yuri threads are so hostile to het now if this is the civility of het-yuri discussion

>>286290964
Because they get called out on their bullshit on sight?

i sort of understand the civility of het-yuri discussion now if this is how hostile yurifags are to het

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>>286290869
>less popular anime that follow in their footsteps
If you dislike them so much, have you tried reading less popular stories that don't follow their footsteps? I can list you some.

>>286290964
>make thread shitting on normal romance
>be hostile and antagonistic about straight romance
>make cuckshit ai-slop edits of straight romance to prop yurishit up
>shocked to get push back

>>286290566
The main reason why yuri very often is safe horny.

>>286290812
i wonder why he's so buckbroken about Nagatoro

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>Raising the daughter of another man
ha ha ha

>>286291005
>>make cuckshit ai-slop edits of straight romance to prop yurishit up
yeah that fag and OP are coming off strong. i got a decent, civil reply itt.

>>286290862
I only find them annoying when they scream about how liking yuri makes them straighter than the rest.

>>286291091
So you get upset when someone claims to be a superior male than you? Really? Someone has a small dick lmao.

>>286290671
>>286290812
>Panty and Stocking image
>Random desuarchive link
wait a minute this is powerfag from /csm/

>>286291115
>screeching about how consuming something gay makes you even more straight
>saying anyone has small dick syndrome
Not him btw

>>286291115
You're totally the straightest goy on Earth, anon.

Lesbians are hot. /thread

>>286291091
i literally just want them to leave me alone. over the course of a cgdct which I will not name airing and for several years afterward I probably received over 500 (yous) from some yurishitter just trying to annoy me about a character supposedly being gay. never provoked or responded to the guy even a single time and he only fucked off when the yuri developments never happened after years

>>286291075
>>Raising the daughter of another man
literally every lesbian with kids
pic unrelated though

>>286291248
it's truly a shame how they plague CGDCT series

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>>286291271
Women have maternal instincts so it's fine, no excuse for that faggot who was never confirmed to be the father, because we all know very well he isn't.

>>286291075
My main father figure is my step dad. I love him and he's a hundred times better than the piece of shit deadbeat whose sperm I come from

>"straight" yurifag has been here
>how can you tell?

>>286291581
You love a man? Gaaaay

>>286291248
>>286291271
Are you talking about the Bocchi threads when it was airing?

>>286290580
>men and women have different expectations on how they should behave
good job anon, you figured it out. now just a bit more and you might start to see why these differences make romance stories more interesting for some people.

>>286290862
that's not really fair, you won't find anyone in gacha threads who isn't a subhuman.

>>286290862
>gachafag accuses other gachafags of being subhuman
I mean I guess they are, but not for the reasons you're accusing them tbdesu

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>>286287433
The usual mental illness that creates spam bait threads that get deleted
Kind of like those nukitashi spam bait threads about troon rights that it kept posting even when they were instantly deleted

>>286291271
>>286291248
>complaining about yurifags in a genre where one of the staple girls is the one lesbian one with an unrequited crush

Let's also be fair. If you going to point out the times that yurifags were hilariously wrong (which are a few), you also have to admit the times that series people said wouldn't be gay ended up going in that direction.

>>286291271
Kirara just announced another yuri series today, you lost tranny

>>286291908
A woman acting pathetic is still pathetic, yurikek

>>286292284
>so ashamed of being a male it can't even stand seeing the drawing of one
>self inserts as lesbian girls
>keeps posting AI-made cuck edits
>calling anyone a tranny

>>286291908
not really, he has a point
alot of yuri are the same as romcoms but with everyone being a girl instead, shit is still shit

>>286290616
>Because the author is just introducing you to the girl
And then she gets her arc which, depending on how the reception is, determines if she gets relegated to a fanservice/background character, or completely erased from the story.

Being introduced to "girl who is obsessed with literally me because I picked up her eraser has to survive against the power of the ToC or else is erased herself" is not as interesting as "Girl A who has autonomy meets Girl B who also has autonomy, and we see how their relationship evolves naturally over time".

Well, not always, as in this example: https://mangadex.org/chapter/bb674049-72d4-4018-923f-dccda3911d9e
But that's technically both.

>>286292284
Kirara started going to shit when they wanted to become a Great Value Yuri Hime

>>286292400
not him but
>"girl who is obsessed with literally me because I picked up her eraser has to survive against the power of the ToC or else is erased herself"
sounds much more interesting and unique than
>Girl A who has autonomy meets Girl B who also has autonomy, and we see how their relationship evolves naturally over time"

>>286290388
>The difference is the relationship speed and presence of side couples. Most yuri romance will have the leads kiss by the third volume, even if the story continues afterwards. They also allow side couples that can act as contrast for the main ones
That's just average straight shoujo/josei romance written by women

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>>286291005
>I can list you some.
You can, but I already do follow a number of straight series. But my point is precisely that because they are less popular, they are more difficult to find, so why shouldn't I spend time in a genre that has more of the romantic developments I like to see?

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>>286292357
>so ashamed of being a male it can't even stand seeing the drawing of one
There are more heterosexual guys in yuri CGDCT than asexual ones like Yurucamp.

>>286292488
>that's just average straight shoujo/josei romance written by women
I did mention that in a latter post, but yuri has the advatange of being either written for men or both men/women as opposed to most shoujo/josei, which is focused on appealing more to girl's sensibilities.

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>>286292507
>But my point is precisely that because they are less popular, they are more difficult to find
Not really, plus you're the one that brought up less popular romance manga following a blueprint you're not fond of.
>so why shouldn't I spend time in a genre that has more of the romantic developments I like to see?
You can do whatever you want. I'm just telling you that the misconception of romance manga being all like 2 mainstream ones as proof of yuri being superior to straight romance because you're lazy is retarded.

By the way, Nagatoro is great and anyone that hates on it most of the time never even read it

>>286292235
>>complaining about yurifags in a genre where one of the staple girls is the one lesbian one with an unrequited crush
i have no idea what this means, even still, is the idea here that I can’t complain about the way yurifags treat me at all? what are you defending

>>286292625
>yuri written by men
isnt that hated by yurifags

>>286292321
a man acting like a woman is pathetic, a woman acting like a woman is normal. not sure why that confuses you.

>>286292652
kabuki and takarazuka exist because the author/performer being same sex as you allows them to cater to your better.
at the very least you can have 'male gaze' written by women.

>>286292691
>a man acting like a woman is pathetic
True, which is why yurifags are pathetic

>>286287396
I like cute girls, yuri has mathematically more cute girls so I like it more

>>286292652
You're talking about the same yurifags that unironically liked a shitty villainess ln made by a tranny.

>>286292691
>a man acting like a woman
No one said a man acting like a woman. The posts here say that a shy male MC is ''beta''. Being shy is reserved for women only now?

>>286287396
twice the number of cute girls

>>286291271
Same thing happened to battle shonen due to fujos

>>286292691
So women should act submissive and shy and just let the MC sweep them off their feet?

>>286291075
Oyakodon-coded

>>286292652
Some of the most popular yuri series have been written by men, Adachi Shimamura, Watanare, Yuri is my Job, and so on.

>>286290141
>getting in the way of yuri
Kill yourself hetshitter

>>286292652
Even if there are some yurifags who hate it, I don't, so it doesn't really matter in this conversation.

>>286292635
There are both popular and unpopular straight romance that follow the blueprint because it's successful and what a large part of the audience wants.

>the misconception of romance manga being all like 2 mainstream ones
Just like people have misconceptions about yuri? Regardless, I freely admit that there are probably a few straight romance manga which aren't like what I described, but they are much harder to find. Yuri has more of the tropes I like so I focus that genre more, which I think is reasonable.

>>286291075
Gotta tell you man but hating Nishikata is low test

>>286292650
>the idea here that I can’t complain about the way yurifags treat me at all

Plently of non-yurifags call me a cuck or a tranny out of nowhere, but I understand that they are a minority and don't judge every non-yurifag to be as retarded as them. But if you're issue is with how a fraction of the yuri fanbase acts, I don't know what to tell you.

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>>286292842
>There are both popular and unpopular straight romance that follow the blueprint because it's successful and what a large part of the audience wants
Just like there are popular and unpopular straight romance that don't follow that bluebrint because it's also successful.
Almost like you can choose what you want to read and there will be a public for it
Pic related
>Just like people have misconceptions about yuri?
Exactly, just like saying every yuri is about menhera and rape.

>>286292400
No fictional character has autonomy, wut? The first girl is more interesting to me than the second girl given the fact that she is straight. Obviously it might not make for the greatest narrative-driven premise but any layman can intuit the point of selling a love fantasy to the reader.

>>286292723
Yurifags on /a/ shit on Inori all the time. I also find it funny that people will say that yurifags are trannies who can't handle any men whatsoever in their stories, yet the one yuri series definitively by an actual tranny has several guys, girls who lust said said guys, and straight couples.

>>286292652
No? Maybe some particularly strict purityfags do but it's definitely not a universal thing.

>>286292918
>But if you're issue is with how a fraction of the yuri fanbase acts, I don't know what to tell you.
NTA. The yuri fan base is a fraction of the wider anime fan base. Learn what per capita means.

>>286292979
g-witch threads were the biggest hit on yurifags reputation on /a/
i didn't had anything against them, but ever since those threads i started disliking most of them, especially when they pull shit like saying non-yuri shows are yuri like Super Cub and Journal with Witch

>>286292723
Meds, now.

>>286293047
>There is a higher proportion of people who call me faggot
>As opposed of zero
lmao, do you guys have a humiliation fetish or something? Are you really crying people are being mean to you in this site?

>>286292928
From what I can see, your example takes 100 chapters to get to the kiss, which would be an example of stuff I'm talking about it. I'll read it, but I feel like it's probably going to have a lot of filler stuff. But who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly wrong.

>>286293063
I have never seen a single yurifag on the yuri thread give a single shit about those series if not being hostile to them

>>286293103
>missed the point award

>>286293063
You mean the series where yurifags ended up being right after a lot of people said nothing yuri would happen?

>non-yuri shows are yuri like Super Cub and Journal with Witch
And there are people who say that certain yuri shows like G-Witch aren't yuri by dishonestly holding onto some vague comments by the producers and ignoring the writer completely. Both fanbases have retarded members, but I don't judge you by your worst.

>>286293184
The point is that you are a faggot upset people can tell.

>>286293047
>Learn what per capita means.

So you have an exact breakdown of the amount of delusional/aggressive yurifags as compared to the overall population? You don't read yuri series presumably, so you're obviously not going to encounter the less hostile ones (plus you're going ignore all the yuri shippers who mostly just keep to themselves and don't try to instigate fights).

>>286293156
bad timing, one just appeared
>>286293192
i mean by the ones saying you can't lewd yuri girls, posting lesbian flag bullshit, bringing politics that kind of shit which g-witch threads had tons of it and even bocchi threads post-anime (which caused them to turn into a ghost town, before that it was filled with anons trying to learn guitar)

>>286293258
Just ignore, that anon is famous for seething at yurifags saying LR is not yuri and trying to use misplaced books in stores as evidence of how yuri the series is.

>>286293227
You're a real piece of work, anon. Keep it up.

>>286293250
Right now, 50% of them.
>So you have an exact breakdown of the amount of delusional/aggressive yurifags as compared to the overall population?
Seriously speaking, that's inherently impossible, especially here.
However, if that anon found more annoying comments from yurifags (especially considering they are a niche fandon) it's logical for him to hold grudges against yurifags as a whole.

>>286293258
Those kinds of fags can be annoying, but again, do they represent the total of the fanbase?

>even bocchi threads post-anime (which caused them to turn into a ghost town, before that it was filled with anons trying to learn guitar)
The Bocchi threads post-anime have turned into a den of Kitafag waifufags with AGP, not exactly a yuri paradise.

>>286293343
>if that anon found more annoying comments from yurifags (especially considering they are a niche fandon) it's logical for him to hold grudges against yurifags as a whole.
So a yurifag who finds more annoying comments from non-yurifags can hold it against you? Is that the world you want to live in?

>>286292918
mate, read the post I was replying to
>I only find them annoying when
we are not hiding the fact that we are critiquing a fraction, that’s the point, so it was a bit lame of you to come rushing to the defense of said fraction

>>286293380
>So a yurifag who finds more annoying comments from non-yurifags can hold it against you?
Well, that's already the case.
>>286293227
>>286293103
So, what point are you even trying to make?

>>286293308
Also known as lapdog

>>286293380
>do they represent the total of the fanbase?
Most likely not, especially because the majority of the fanbase is japanese. But i'd say they are a noticeable parcel of the western one, just look at OP trying to force these threads

>>286293308
I don't think Lycoris is yuri right now. But if there is mistagging, it comes from the official publisher rather than random bookstores, which is a bit more egregious and intentionally deceptive.

>https://bookwalker.jp/series/389079/list/
>百合(6)
These aren't user generated tags either.

>>286293380
>Kitafag waifufags with AGP
Are you seriously the dickhead pushing this narrative? That was a long passed /trash/ raid and if nothing else was done to troll kita waifufags.

>>286292942
>No fictional character has autonomy, wut?
A goal of a writer is to write characters so well that they seem to be alive in their world. Often you hear of writers saying that their characters end up writing themselves, and they simply need to create scenarios for those characters to navigate. That's the goal.

Romcom characters simply don't have that capacity. They're too one-dimensional, there's no depth to them. The MC is a cardboard cutout with the personality on said material. The girls are usually little better since they have to orbit CardboardMC-kun. It doesn't matter if they're in school, space, or generic isekailand, it's the same shit of the MC doing the decade's old ecchi hijinks and the girls being stuck in a holding pattern until the axe drops and one "wins" or there's an ambiguous end wasting everyone's time.

Of course, that's also largely because of poor writers writing said works, and the lowest common denominator consuming it mindlessly. Good writers can obviously do better, whether they writing get, yuri, yaoi, rocks, futa etc. Yuri just tends to have a higher percentage of good writers on average.

>>286293392
I replied to multiple people, one of which definitely was criticizing yurifags as a group rather than a fraction. Either way, I apologize if my point was muddled.

>>286293406
My point is that all fanbases have bad fractions. Just as I don't reply to the few people calling me a tranny or cuck and ultimately judge you based on that behaviour, I expect similar behaviour in kind.

>>286293442
Bookwalker tags are not user or publisher generated but automatized, they are not describing the series content just indicators for people who may be interested in those genres

>>286293594
>automatized
[citation needed]
>they are not describing the series content just indicators for people who may be interested in those genres
>ジャンル
They are literally genre tags in their own description. Plus the other Lycoris series don't get published as yuri on bookwalker, so is it just the manga that yurifags are interested in and not the anthologies or novels?

Yuribait never wins

>>286293586
>My point is that all fanbases have bad fractions.
Yeah, but bad actors stand out more when:
1. The fandom is a niche.
2. They're the main source of annoyances for anon 286291248, who I assume has a wide variety of interests.

>Just as I don't reply to the few people calling me a tranny or cuck and ultimately judge you based on that behaviour, I expect similar behaviour in kind.
That's fair. I just say that I can't blame that anon, or the totally straight anon that says "faggot" 15139 times a day to anyone who doesn't treat yurifriends as the second coming of Christ.

>>286287396
Nothing

>>286293487
You're just biased, yuri suffers from the same problems as normal romcoms. Also, try reading more rom and less com

>>286287396
>homesexual "love"
>better than any form of heterosexuality
lmao

>>286293487
Brah the goal of the writer is to make people want to read lol. If every authors goal was the same there’d be no such thing as a genre. It just so happens that you find the “goal” of making the reader have a romantic fantasy about a cartoon girl to be uninteresting, but surely you can understand that there is an audience for it anyway. It’s ironic hearing people who are presumably so androphobic they don’t want any men in their story at all talk about how they wish the male lead was more established.

>>286293706
The tag by itself is descriptive of content, but the purpose of the tag is not that, it's literally just a "people who like X liked Y too". So it's just taking overlaps in consideration, if you actually check all the works recommend for the tag you will see even het works with no yuri content at all. The anthology and the novel don't sell as much so the overlap is a lot smaller.

>>286293418
I think it's fine if OP wants to argue why one genre is better than another, similar to how how someone might compare two different girls in a harem or two anime. I would take more issue with it if it used words like "hetshit" or degenerated the straight fanbase.

>>286289040
Did your sexuality and understanding of it stop developing right after you first discovered you liked boobs?

>>286293801
>homesexual
American education everyone, truly the real home sapiens

>>286289233
The fact that they're cute makes it worse
Like the watching someone hurt a dog vs watching soneone hurt a puppy

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>>286287396
Yuri = Purity
When a girl yuris it immediately tells the audience this girl will not be taken nor stained. She will maintain her idol-like anime girl image and never fall for a bland male MC (not you) or a random NPC. You can love her all you want without fear of being a cuck.

Lesbian is literally the perfect form of an anime girl. Imagine having a girl who shares the same interests as you. Secretly drooling over another girl... it's so cute. Conversely, imagine liking a girl who's fond of men. You can't relate, you can't understand. It's bad. It's gay. Cuck-coded by design.

>>286287396
Multiple people still think yurifags have a problem with men who are their own biological gender

>>286294032
>Meanwhile in reality yuri is full of works where the girls had ex boyfriends.

>>286293944
>the works recommend for the tag you will see even het works with no yuri content at all
>https://bookwalker.jp/tag/14/?word=百合&order=score
Almost all of the yuri tags on bookwalker belong to series that actually do have some yuri content. It doesn't help that Lycoris has a few ambigious scenes that definitely feel like they're trying to appeal to the yuri fanbase, but just some fanservice doesn't make the entire series yuri in my view.

>>286294043
I know this may be surprising to you, but everyone is their biological gender tranny.

>>286294032
Unironically based. This is why yurifags are the straightest men on Earth.

>>286291075
Why are you here

>>286292820
See? Yuritroons are deranged faggots.

>>286287396
I can talk about and recommend Yuri anime no problem with my irl friends, but i feel like a total faggot when talking about normal male-female romance anime. easier to just talk about cute girls in that context, i guess.

>>286291115
Low IQ post

>>286289903
>you were exposed hard by that Ryza audio thing
Explain further (please)!

>>286291485
>Implying men don't have paternal instincts
That alone is proof enough you aren't a serious person

>>286294101
If you go by the schizophrenic that spams these bait threads spam false flagging and seething about yurifags, they'd tell you otherwise

>>286292820
How do you even arrive at that conclusion?
He's not the writer/illustrator/mangaka nor the editor.
He just finds the girl(s) hot.
It's impossible for him to get in the way of yuri.

>>286293951
The OP contains a presumptive question which is what makes it a troll thread.

>>286294150
Skill issue

>>286294032
Heterosexuals do not “share the same interests” as a homosexual. It’s alarming that you find sharing interests with females to be so enticing.

>>286293795
nta but men don't usually like rom. Most romance aimed at men are in the form of romcom where it's mostly comedy with fanservice mixed in. The pure romance manga are usual shoujo/josei with lots of 6 foot+ ikemen love interests. Even in yuri most of the mangaka are women despite a mostly male audience, which is strange but not unexpected if you know how female-dominated romance is as a genre worldwide.

>>286294032
You definitely have never had a girlfriend

>>286294247
What I can say is that, if the OP was instead "what makes hetero better than yuri romance?", I wouldn't call it a troll thread either (although I would respond to OP with my argument for why I personally feel yuri romance is on average better than a lot of straight stuff right now, just like I've responded to the people questioning OP's statement).

>>286294364
I think the fact yurifags literally told each other in their previous thread to not post on this one because it was for shitposting says a lot.

>>286294304
>It’s alarming that you find sharing interests with females to be so enticing.
>If you’re looking for a partner that perfectly lines up with your ideals, that’s not a woman. That’s a man with Asperger’s.
Sam Hyde.

>>286294364
It’s fine if you are a charitable person, but the fact that the OP is presenting statements as questions shows that he’s spoiling for a fight. Even without it you could “read the room” and determine that the goal here is division

I've been jerking off to yuri for 20 years but refuse to get anywhere near the fanbase

>>286294032
>Imagine having a girl who shares the same interests as you
That would suck
Not only learning about a girl's interests is fun, but i don't want a girl to have most of my interests. Imagine having to share everything and not having any particular activity or hobby
>>286294304
this

>>286294451
the herd picks their general. even episode threads have implied rules for picking the next one.

>>286294537
No one wants you masturbating near them anon

>>286294332
>men read romcom but dont like rom
that is simply not true proved by the fact most of romance authors, not exclusively about manga, are men. also i just said that if anon is bothered by the com elements of romcoms he should read ones that focus more on rom instead of com

>>286294451
>>286294517
Yurifags want a thread to discuss yuri. OP's statement is arguementive, but does not rise to the level of disingenuous to qualify as shitposting (even if the kind of people who show up in the thread will cause it to eventually breakdown in shitposting). This would be an example of a yuri thread I would find to be shitposting from the start: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/267454974/#267454974

>>286294696
Unfortunately it’s not so common that these people go blatantly low quality enough to catch the somniferous eyes of our barely sentient janitors but it’s definitely divisive/instigation at minimum

>>286293831
>Brah the goal of the writer is to make people want to read lol
So we have slop romcoms for the lowest common denominator, and good romance for people with slightly better tastes.
>androphobic
Strawman. I really don't care if it's het, yuri, BL or whatever I just want good stories with good characters. I read works from all different pairings and demographics, and there are good ones in all of them. It's just that, for whatever reason, yuri works are generally more skewed towards the non-slop side of the spectrum than the others.

>>286288962
Imagine saying this dumbshit after the files were leaked

>>286294814
What I will say is that OP is definitely lower quality for the fact that it doesn't provide an argument as for why yuri is the better genre.

>>286294825
Well maybe it would be better to granulate the genre between ‘romance’ wherein the reader is invited to watch other people’s relationships play out dramatically and ‘romance fantasy’ wherein the reader is invited to have a romantic fantasy involving the female love interest. If the point is that your taste is elite and everyone else is pedestrian, that’s fine, I will just bin your opinion alongside all the schizos crying about incels or whatever, but it’s still true that the style the author is using to further that goal is not just successful but probably fully realized, it just doesn’t appeal to you.

>>286289040
Yes seeing two women that are straight not two dykes who are mentally ill and hate men

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>>286295265
Usually people are complaining about the romance that comes along with two girls kissing, although personally, I find a passionless makeout to be unerotic.

>>286295265
I don't have any issue with yuri porn
I can't for the life of me to get the appeal of yuri romance though

>>286295481
If by yuri porn you mean a threesome with a man then yeah you’d be making sense

>>286295514
Sometimes i want to see a doujin about a loli getting tribbed by her teacher, but threesomes are good too especially if it's a shota

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>>286295481
The romance is there to aid the intimacy of the physical acts. It's kind of like how rape fantasies have a different feeling to consensual acts, even if they're both sex at the end of the day.

>>286295481
>yuri romance

Just imagine... loli x mother

greatest love of all

>>286295603
Yeah, i don't like it. It's too boring for me, if i want to see romance i would read a straight romance manga

>>286295619
What's the point if there's no sex? That is why yuri is only good for doujin. I just fapped for one where the teacher fucks her loli student but loli x mother could be a great one too

>>286295652
well I meant romance and SEX

and a big part of what make it hot is older woman teacher a younger girl about sex

>>286295652
Do you think it is boring because you primarily engage in romance through self-inserting (imagining yourself in place of the MC)? No judgement if you do, just curious.

bl >>>>>>>>> straggot shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yurifags

>>286295714
I don't self insert, but do i feel i can identify and sympathize more with a male protagonist

Why the fuck are you faggots making daily generals when you have your own containment board? Say you all are modern day bronies is an understatement. Fuck off.
>>>/u/

some fags' oxytocin response must be taking a very different course in their heads if they can't appreciate romance.

>>286295265
The appeal of two naked sluts is intuitive but the part where I’m supposed to watch other people make out is lost on me. Obviously not every single action is appealing purely on the merit that it’s being performed by naked sluts.

>>286295741
>i feel i can identify and sympathize more with a male protagonist
anon, that's what "self inserting" is.

>>286295859
No, it isn't. If i sympathize with a friend that lost his dad recently does that mean i'm self inserting? No.

Self inserting became too much of a buzzword in recent years

>>286295774
You cannot talk about the state of yuri in /u/ without some autist having a melty as they are all mentally ill troons who imagine themselves as woman, and you are banned from mentioning men there.

I know I'm opening a can of worms with this topic, but why is so much yuri shit ruined by one girl having a dick. Are the viewers supposed to self insert as a girl with a dick, or the girl getting rammed by the dick. Or as a third party watching in the cuck chair in the corner jacking it to a girl with a giant dick. I don't know which is more homosexual.

>>286296094
>why is so much yuri shit ruined by one girl having a dick
Almost no yuri manga have futa.

>>286296121
I've seen enough, and this is not just about manga.

>>286296094
>Are the viewers supposed to self insert as [...]
...whoever they want, or no one. it's entertainment.
>I don't know which is more homosexual.
why do you care? you must be afraid of something if you unironically care.

>>286296177
>https://exhentai.org/?f_cats=993&f_search=yuri+-translated (34,000 results)
>https://exhentai.org/?f_cats=993&f_search=yuri+futa+-translated (1,000 results)
I don't think that less than 1% counts as "so much". It's even less when you include Non-H yuri porn.

>>286296343
>non-h yuri doujin
Fixed my mistake.

futa has nothing to do with yuri.

>>286296343
NTA, but most futa stuff is western made.

>>286296623
The point is futa is ruining a lot of porn that should have been yuri.

>>286295921
>Self inserting became too much of a buzzword in recent years
trvke. more than just a buzzword it is now a rhetorical weapon which is made evident when it is almost always paired with something like "mentally ill faggot" or "incel", ect, it's intentionally pejorative language. as far as I can tell self-inserting is best summarized in a single word: daydreaming. the only real difference is that one person is partial to fantasizing about intimacy with a character whereas the other is partial to fantasizing about a character being intimate with someone else - the use of this term is almost always an attempt to make it seem like everyone is engaging in the latter or that engaging in the former is somehow stranger. i no longer see any use for this term in polite conversation

>>286297334
self inserting is nothing more than empathizing with a character to the point where you can think about what you would do in their position. anything further than that that people ascribe to it is just projection on their part.

>>286287396
What is this gross shit In seeing
That's the less sensual kiss I've ever seen in animation

>>286287396
girls are cute, boys aren't. simple as.

>1000 muh female biomass posts
>when the ratio is literally higher in non-yuri

>>286297334
I think the only real use of the term would be for something like the Rent-a-Girlfriend protagonist. The author quite literally self inserts as him and even made him look like him more getting rid of his old design

Other than that, i agree. It became a pejorative term with little actual meaning

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>>286297034
I disagree, while there are yuri authors who are degenerates and do futa hentai, like 99.9% of futa authors and readers would never touch yuri because they just want to see dickgirls and nothing else, it's a very small overlap.

>>286298353
I just want one doujin of Tsunade x Shizune without one of them using dick no jutsu.

>>286287396
>>286287636
>Highschool of the Dead
How many people here actually like Saeko and Rei to be lesbians making out with each other, though?

>>286298232
this manga is such a trainwreck with the characters having zero direction
everyone is literally doing whatever

>>286295543
Except for the fact that they’re barely feeling any pleasure at all and same goes for small pp shotas

>>286295714
No most people think it’s boring because romance is pointless without someone being bred

>>286298739
that like 99% romcoms

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What if you got isekaid but instead of having a harem you ended up being enslaved by cute misandrist lesbians who put you in chastity and forced you to watch them have sex while in 24/7 agonizing testicular pain and the closest you ever came thereafter to an orgasm was watching girls have one during divine yuri sex from your moid cage? Serious replies only

>>286298938
Majima...

>>286298687
That's why 2D is superior, i can have absolutely huge hags losing their minds with a shota 2 inch dick

>>286298739
This
>>286298888
99% of romcom end with a timeskip of the protagonists marrying and having a family

>>286298888
You’re not understanding what I’m trying to say. Not only is the sex even shown anyway but dykes are in a worthless relationship no matter what they do

>i read romance to see them have kids
What did the self inserter mean by this

>>286299124
>le self insert buzzword
There we go

>>286298973
That’s like reading futa doujins the suspension of disbelief can only go so far until it loses any chance of being believable. This is why loli doujins are the best since it’s not only satisfying for grown men but the sex is actually realistic

>faggot thinks he’d be here without straight people breeding
Yurifags sure are some ungrateful degenerates

>>286298587
No, it has a clear pattern. Once Kuwabara wants to make a character no longer part of the main plot, the character becomes a rapist or gets accused of being one. True for Kokoro, Kudou, and Sensei.

>>286298739
meh I don’t really expect it to play out to that degree though having kids is definitely a significant part of some kind of romantic fantasy. for me it’s boring because it’s kinda just none of my business, it’s like girl problems and tampons tier shit.

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>>286294982
Everyone knows that Epstein was a /u/ poster.

>>286299476
It’s the most important part of a romance story because it’s the whole reason a couple would get together in the first place. If there’s no sexual attraction at all then it’s just a friendship story at best

>>286294032
Incel level post

>>286294043
This is not a unknown or a false thing. Yuri community has huge fraction of people who suffer from identity crisis. You're just living under the rock to admit it.

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watch chinese yuri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x09rqGaDg

>>286287396
Nothing, absolutely nothing at all. You're just sick in the head.

>>286295481
This how majority of straight men think. Only the low single digits male percentage finds the later one appealing.

Have the mangadex uploads of ZenKowa been getting slower lately? It's taking them a week+ to get the chapters out. Which is honestly weird, since they quit redrawing most of the sound effects and signs in the recent chapters too.

>>286298739
Most romance manga don't end in pregnancy though. Of those that do, they focus so little on the actual pregnancy/child-part that it seems irrelevant by contrast. I will point out that most hentai doujin don't end in pregnancy either.

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It's pure love unburdened by instinct

>>286302389
Manga translation as of late has been dying out.

>>286287396
Sauce please?

>>286303972
Use SauceNAO.

>>286302743
Brother that shit isn't even love and any pretense otherwise is willful delusion by the author

>>286302613
Can we get a romance manga that goes through married life and raising a child together? Love is a beautiful thing no matter what stege of life you'te in

>>286300450
If you're gay, maybe.
The kind of love that can only exist between man and woman does not need sex to be different from a friendship.

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>>286287396
>console warring

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Obviously it would never work as a relationship because they're both superstraight but it is hot as fuck