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Do you have expectations? A completely new, alternate universe with entirely new characters? What does the evafags think about it?

>https://x.com/Marmot_anime/status/2025918869781799383
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>>286291400
>expectations
It's gonna be shit.
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>>286291400
Looks like an angery rhino LOL
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>>286291400
It is being animated by Cloverworks and Khara, Anno said he wanted more people to do their "takes on the franchise" and the writer Yoko Taro was given full creative control apparently, so I'd say they're probably using the original cast, just in some sort of AU, the latest short already reference multiple Universes/Worlds/Realities
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>>286291615
>Directed by Kazuya Tsurumaki & Toko Yatabe, written by Yoko Taro, music composed by Keiichi Okabe, animated by Khara & CloverWorks

I don't think. They have money, too much, an excellent animation studio, an excellent musician, and an excellent writer
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>>286291782
They'll find a way.
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>>286291400
I havent watch Evangelion yet. Is it really THAT good ? Im not into Mecha combined with religious shit. Im into Technical Mecha like Gundam
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We got new Christian lore recently. Unbaptized babies now go to heaven instead of getting stuck in limbo. Looking forward to how the new director spins this into the story.
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>>286291726
Cello Shinji
Violin Asuka, Kaworu
Viola Rei
Timpani Anno
Piano Original Evangelion
All of that is broken, with ivy creeping over it. In other words, the Evangelion of the past has come to a complete end, and the aforementioned characters will not appear.
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>>286291795
She cute
>>286291831
You will have a hard time finding a decent version to watch given how every release either adds some scenes, change/reanimates others and removes others, plus multiple different dubs if you care about that
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>>286291400
im pretty bored of taro's schtick so i probably won't watch it unless the word of mouth is really good, especially without sagisu. glad he's finally making good on the comments about letting people do spinoffs though
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>>286291864
Don't be silly, that one Nier character showed up as a boss in another game despite making no sense, nothing is stopping them from using some of the OG cast, they already have multiple different universes if you count SRW and the mangas
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>>286291831
>with religious shit.
This is the extent of religious shit you'll see.
It's basically a depressioncore teenage sufferkino disguised as Mecha.
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>>286291831
>I havent watch Evangelion yet
>combined with religious shit
with that kind of prejudice you wont be able to enjoy a lot of things, its not like it is a fucking christian story or some shit like that, where the fuck do you get that fucking idea?
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>>286291881
>You will have a hard time finding a decent version to watch given how every release either adds some scenes, change/reanimates others and removes others, plus multiple different dubs if you care about that
At least the English dub only has 2 versions as far as I know (ADV and Netflix), the LatAm dub get messier with 3 versions (Original Broadcast, Remaster and Netflix)
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>>286291400

Looks like fat garbo.

One of the larger twists was the true nature of the Evas.

Which was respected even in the x.0 series resequelmakes.

Watching the mistique get thrown away screams amateur director with surface level appreciation for the series, themes, and Eva as an artform.

The only redeeming piece so far is Mari not being in the trailer.

I'll watch it, but my expectations are low.
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>>286291400
bum
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>>286291400
It might be a good show on it's own merits. But it won't be Evangelion.
Evangelion in almost all of it's incarnations has been about Shinji ikari, and his problems. Without him? What's the point?
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>>286295478
Maybe this time we can get a good protagonist
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>>286295478
It might just go the route of Mazinger Z, different incarnations of Koji Kabuto, different incarnations of Shinji Ikari.
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>>286291945
Correction. It's a greek tragedy disguised as a mecha.
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>>286295621
that seems like the worst of both worlds for this franchise in particular this applies to rebuild too
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>>286295622
Only if we apply the infinite monkey theorem on Anno.
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I hope Yoko puts another loli in a red dress
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>>286291400
I'm utterly pissed with this.
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>>286291400
personally I hope that it's so incredibly bad that it's the final nail in the coffin for eva.
Cloverworks mangled a mecha anime before, and they can certainly do it again!
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>>286291881
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ANIMA Shinji
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>>286291400
bum
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>>286297274
yoko taro also did kamierabi andnthat shit sucked
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>>286291400
>Do you have expectations?
Yes, I expect Saigado to make more MisatoxShinji doujins.
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>>286291795
>>286291757
The things I'd do if I had 2 Asukas...
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>>286291831
It just rehashes some Gundam bits, throw in some hedgehogs dilema, and christian imagery influenced by Kamen Rider that people tend to overanalyze and that's what you get. The girls are sexo though.
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>>286291831
watch the original series and find out for yourself, why are you relying on retards for validation?
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>>286295580
Had the same thought. The resemblance is uncanny.
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>>286291400
>Do you have expectations?
I think yoko taro is genuinely one of the few people who could make decent evangelion outside its original run.
if you've ever played any of his games he captures that melancholic tone very well.
cautiously optimistic.
>A completely new, alternate universe with entirely new characters?
I wish but it wont happen.
i think asuka, shinji and rei should be put to rest since they have all had sufficient character arcs by EoE.
a new set of faces with their own stories would be cool.
>What does the evafags think about it?
wait and see.
cant be any worse than rebuild.
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>>286299150
>cant be any worse than rebuild
This is certainly not true. Things can always get worse.
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>>286299150
>cant be any worse than rebuild.
oh ye of little faith
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>>286299150
i don't think the tone of nge and the tone of his games is at all similar. melancholic? the original series is more like a spectrum from anxiety and fear to tentative comfort and then back to anxiety shot through with a kind of occult paranoia. he's obviously extremely influenced by it, but the important elements of eva, first & foremost the character writing, take a totally different approach from the more heavy handed line he goes with for the casts in nier or dg (at least the first game, never played 3)
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I have low expectations without Sagisu and Anno (despite all)
besides my heart accepted and moved on from Eva
I will probably just watch it, shitpost on /a/ reminiscing about the good old times and forget about it a month later
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>>286299392
to me, 2B and rei are literal parallels.
a recurrent theme of taro's work is the idea of what humanity actually is, which is also what eva ultimately is about to.
taro's work covers loss a lot to which plays a role in original eva.
shinji lost his mom (and dad emotionally), asuka lost her mother, aida talks about his mom dying, misato lost her father and could never reconcile her feelings for kaji since he dies offscreen, ritsuko lost her mother who chose gendo over her and gendo loses his only ever love when she gets sucked into eva-1.
the most famous example of this in Taro's work would probably be the robot massacre in automata.
tldreddit: his work parrallels eva in a lot of ways so logically he SHOULD be decent at writing a story for it.
both are melancholic, moments of happiness dispersed between feelings of loss and frustration with the realities of life.
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>>286299787
>which is also what eva ultimately is about
alright nevermind
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This new EVA-01 (if it’s really that) looks like a cross between a demon and a beetle.
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>>286297158
voiced by Kotomine's VA
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>alternate universe with new characters
Eva isn't Gundam or Macross. Eva without Shinji, Asuka, or Rei isn't Eva.
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>>286300376
Let them cook.
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>>286291400
>New EVA
>Might be new characters

They should just pull a Zeta Gunda, have one old notable character, like Char/Quattro, to prop up the new characters. And don't do what GQuX did.
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>>286291831
its the most impactful anime culturally for the past 30 years you tell me, watch the ADV english dub or jap sub ofc, netflix dub is fucking horrific
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>>286300440
No.
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>>286291400
>New Eva are a bunch of bugs
I don't like it
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>>286291831
>Im not into Mecha
Liking mecha anime requires having high testosterone. This is not a meme but in fact the original source of that "high/low test" meme. Robots are like a girl and low testosterone repellent. You couldn't drag them to a mech show. This is why franchises like Gundam had to stuff their series with pretty boys just to get them to watch. If BFG's(BIG FUCKING ROBOTS) don't get you rock hard then you have low levels of testosterone.
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>>286291400
The return of Fuyutsuki poster is the only thing i'm looking forward to.
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>>286291757
>those expressions by shikinami on :03
jesus, she is such a minx.
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>>286291864
Piano is Kaworu.
The instruments are evas. Asuka and Kaworu shared a violin when both shared theirs.
But in early drafts Kaworu played the piano, so when he got his own units, he got his instrument back.
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>>286300575
The trailer talking about a sad song makes me think of Kaworu who always yaps about songs all the fucking time. He also got a whole exhibition for anniversary.
But I hope not. He should be free of this bullshit.
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>>286291400
Literally everything made with Evangelion after the 90s was utter shit and complete filler slop
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>>286303132
Love me some 'akus, 'oufs, and 'googs
Simple as
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>>286291881
>plus multiple different dubs
Nobody cares about the neflix one.
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>>286291831
You'll love it if you haven't gotten past your teen/early 20s angst and your anger over your upbringing. If you have it's just a decent mecha show.
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>>286291831
Fuck off we're full
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>>286291400
Seems okay
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>>286291400
>Do you have expectations?

G KWACKS
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>>286291400
I believe that Yoko Taro will at least write something interesting and fun. He's got enough autism and mental illness to write some Evangelion
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>>286292164
>Watching the mistique get thrown away
Everybody and their fucking mother knows dude, what mystique?
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I expect Emil to show up as an Angel.
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Don't you have a sticked general to post in? Stay in your containment thread and stop making new ones
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Anno has been trying to convince Japan to turn Eva in to Gundam with endless spinoffs and alternate universes for many years. and he'd get to collect royalties from his IP being used, while he gets to do shit he wants to do (like film live-action toku movies)
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>>286291400
The shitty gaym writer might be a total hack but it's def going to be better than rebuilds if the king hypocritical manchild finally stopped getting involved.
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>>286291400
When is it coming
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Yoko Taro will mandate all Gainax bounce fanservice be replaced with upskirts of fat asses.
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It's gonna be good. I just know it.
New waifu or two, new turbochad to mog shinji. New angels and evas. New ecchi scenes
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>Evangelion by Yoko Taro
the autism and unapologetic fanservice will be off the charts
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>>286295478
My uncle works inside Yoko Taro. Shinji will be inexplicably swole, Rei will be green and Asuka will be dressed as Reimu all the time but their personalities will stay the exact same
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bump
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>>286313777
Rei, Askuka, and Misato dressed up as 2b incoming.
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Yoko Taro is pretty based but EVA has been getting raped nonstop for such a long time that I have zero hopes for it.
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Just let Eva die
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Even though it would be interesting, The chance of a completely new cast is maybe 10%

Asuka and rei have been the cash printers of Evangelion for 30 years - if they introduce new characters, there's zero guarantee that people will like them or buy merch. That's basically what happened with Mari, let alone a totally new cast.

Besides, don't you think that conceptually, unit 01 is inseparable from being shinji's mom?
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>>286291400
Honestly I wanted Khara to work on a fresh new IP after getting Rebuilds, Gquuuuuux and all those Shin movie projects

If they make a new Eva anime I hope it's at least an AU with new characters like the Gundam alternate continuities

I hope it's good but I'm afraid to be disappointed, I don't think it's gonna be bad but Gquuuuuux was far from perfect and I want a new masterpiece from talent like that
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It's been such a long time that I don't remember if this pic was the edit or the original.
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Canon
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Congratulations
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We're so back
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>>286291400
>What does the evafags think about it?
ESL subhuman
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>>286291400
If there's new characters I hope the MC is a sexy white haired shota like 9S and pre-timeskip Nier
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>asushin short
>kawoshin kabuki play
Reishin__________
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>>286305038
>Skibidi Toilet tier animation
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>>286314135
HEADcanon, FTFY
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>>286291831
>Is it really THAT good ?
Yes it is "that good", but it depends on your taste. Don't get your expectations too high.
I would compare it to a Kubrick like 2001 Space Odyssey or Drive, because it has very slow, atmospheric, and artistic shots.
There are crazy mecha fight scenes, but that's not the focus really. It's more of a fine wine that slowly sip.
Basically if your dopamine receptors aren't fried, and you like a bit or a lot of complexity, this should be a great experience.

Also the complexity of the Lore is pretty fucking high, but like more than 80% of it isn't fucking explained directly and I needed a 2 hours YouTube dissertation to understand all the "Adam and Eve" shit, which isn't about Christian religion at all, they just use the judeo-christian names and symbolism for their own mythology.

As for watch order, go in order of release :
1- Original 1995 series.
*Note the end of this series was controversial and weird.
2- Death & Rebirth.
3- The End of Evangelion and/or Revival of Evangelion
4- And now you get to the movies : 1.0 , 2.0, 3.0 and 3.0+1.0 .

There, hope you enjoy this shit.
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>>286316122
>I would compare it to a Kubrick like 2001 Space Odyssey or Drive
Might as well put Lord of the Rings in there, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>286291400
It was foreshadowed in Drakengard.
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>>286291726
>Multiverse
It's a grift
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>>286291795
Smug AND cute
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>>286316119
Canonically Soryu’s dream (that she swears to fight for)
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>>286316500
>To catch the lion's cub, you must enter the lion's den
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>>286313959
this is the cow eve howeverbeit, 2b has a much nicer and more realistic ass
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>>286313959
None of them will appear. it says it's an original series. Those characters ended.
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>>286316804
They'll appear anyway in crossover merch. Rei and Asuka weren't in Shin Godzilla, either.
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>>286316347
I did that for 2 reasons.
First, I know these movies are considered masterpieces online, but some people simply don't have the patience, and they either fall asleep or can't stand the long shots where nothing is happening.
2001 has a ton of shots in space where nothing much is happening, it's complete silence and each shot lasts 30 seconds to a minute. This filters out tourists and people with low attention span.
Evangelion, at least the original series, has a lot of slow or dead silent moments. So that the first reason.
Second, yes in terms of atmosphere building, in terms of style, artistic taste they are pretty similar, to me at least.
If you disagree, that's fine.
I wasn't really talking about the quality itself, but yeah, if you wanna go there, Evangelion has similarly high ratings, both critics and the public rate Evangelion pretty high up there.
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>>286300376
It’ll be a pure Rebuild farming anime
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>>286316875
at best you have an enigmatic quantum rei shot that's never explained.
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>>286316804
Original series
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i didn't like the last 2 episodes of the show and EoE as much as i hoped i would, based on my high expectations. Am i a brainlet?

the entire show was people telling shinji what to do and him complying. i thought it would be different in the movie, and it feels like it's going to be different until towards the end where he kinda gives in to someone else's wishes once again and semi reverts the third impact. i just don't understand the point.
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>>286316876
NTA but I hold the view that animation is so entirely different than film that it's dishonest to compare the two.
I don't watch anything non 2D so I personally "hate" seeing the comparison.
It's as if you're comparing the "experience" of watching a film to cleaning out a chicken coup. It's just not really comparable in the vein of "experience" (even though you could of course compare them as any autist can compare literally anything).
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>>286313992
>Getting raped.
>Last rebuild was on 2021
>5 years ago
Anon I...
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>>286317729
People are so dramatic.
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>>286317311
Yeah you’re completely backwards. The third impact is not supposed to be a good thing you want for Shinji. Sure he’s taking charge in that moment but it’s him giving up on himself, humanity, and the world. It’s a lashing out of self destruction, a suicide. On the brink of it all he has the epiphany in the final hour that his self destructive bullshit is his own problem and he accepts the difficulties of reality.
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>>286317311
Eva is just the coming of age of shinji which culminates in him rejecting 3rdImpact,when you subtract the lorebabble.
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>>286317311
>he kinda gives in to someone else's wishes once again and semi reverts the third impact.
You may be a brainlet. Reverting third impact is shinji’s wish, not anybody elses. Rei and Kaworu kind of talk him through it after he makes the decision, but it is fully shinji’s decision and he comes to it by himself once he sees what goo world is like.
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>>286291400
Kabuterimon...?
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>>286317903
I noticed this too. The new Eva looks very bug like instead of like an Oni. Reminds me of Dunbine.
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>>286314864
>Asuka is half German
>I want to shit on her face
Checks out.
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>>286297944
KamiErabi GOD.App was intentionally made to be weird that way. They purposely conceived it as an anime that is not like an anime at all, more like a western imitation of an anime.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2023-07-17/everything-is-a-lie-yoko-taro-hiroyuki-seshita-jin-and-atsushi-okubo-discuss-kamierabi-god.app-anime/.199776
https://www.ign.com/articles/kamierabi-godapp-why-the-team-behind-yoko-taros-new-anime-compares-it-to-a-california-roll
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>>286313777
You guys are going to be disappointed if you base your expectations entirely off of NieR. Some of his other works like Voice of Cards, Drag-On Dragoon (which is heavily inspired by Evangelion), KamiErabi GOD.APP, and many stage plays don't really have fan service. He is a massive otaku and does appreciate fan service but it's not strictly his thing.
>>286291945
This is true. In interviews Anno said that he chose Christianity because it was just a foreign mythology that he didn't have to worry about misusing and then went on to say he doesn't like westerners and shit. Other staff said that they wouldn't have chosen Christianity if they had known the series was ever going to go overseas. In other interviews Anno talks about how he would grab Japanese-English dictionaries and just look up Christian concepts that sounded cool to use. That he never actually read any of the source material and that dictionary was the extent of his research.
Yoko Taro is heavily influenced by Evangelion so he also uses a lot of the same religious references in DoD/NieR but he does it intentionally and villainizes it (makes God, Angels, the Church of Angels, and so on evil). He also villainizes westerners in general (all the alien machines in NieR are non-Japanese, mostly western philosophers). His games also include a lot of Shinto and Buddhist references and the running theme throughout his works is Buddhist (though tards confuse it for nihilism.).
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>>286317864
Okay then. I interpreted it as souls within the goo were peer pressuring him into reverting the process bytelling him to grow the f up.

Another thing; it feels like both gendo and seele wanted the exact same thing so ultimately i don’t understand what their conflict was this whole time
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>>286318058
Gendo wanted to basically gatekepeed instrumentality to see his wife and die in peace.
Selee wanted to use instrumentality on the entire humanity to evolve them.
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>>286318058
He was being pressured to grow the fuck up, instrumentality was breaking down his walls and ego. But, the choice was still his to be comfortable and free in a world of imagination or to bear the responsibility of reality. He chose the more difficult path.
The Gendo vs Seele issue is not a brainlet problem, that’s one of the tougher ones for a lot of people. The distinction is that Seele wanted ascension and to live forever as Gods, while Gendo wanted to reunite with his wife. It’s all about who gets to steer the ship, but Rei chose Shinji over Gendo.
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>>286318058
Well you have to recognize what instrumentality really is. It's not a magic "do anything you can imagine" power. In this story, humans and angels are both artificial creations. And the way we were constructed was that our AT fields are what maintain our individual forms and contain our souls.

Instrumentality is simply the power to have control over everyone's AT fields and souls.


I think seele wanted to put themselves and the rest of humanity, in goo form, into EVA bodies and essentially become living gods, with active agency over the world.

Different from gendo, who just wanted to generally mingle souls and find Yui again inside unit 01.

And shinji's solution is to let everyone stay as mingled souls, but have the choice to come back if they want to live as an individual.
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>>286316703
Funny story, the English localization invented terms like "queen beast" and "grotesqueries" to refer to those things and it's caused confusion in the EN fandom ever since.
During the final chapters, the Japanese script just refers to these as "enemies" and sometimes refers to the large one as "the large enemy". In earlier chapters there's a couple instances where it seems to foreshadow this figure and it uses a Japanese term that's exclusively used to refer to the Virgin Mary. The localization kind of butchered those scenes and changed the term to "Gaia" in those lines in such a way that they basically don't make sense and so most fans entirely forget those lines even exist.
NieR Re[in]carnation had a final boss battle against a very similar enemy named "Mourning Mother".
It's almost certain that the intended interpretation is that
>giant enemy = Virgin Mary
>baby angels = Cherubim
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>>286317519
>NTA but I hold the view that animation is so entirely different than film that it's dishonest to compare the two.
>I don't watch anything non 2D so I personally "hate" seeing the comparison
Sorry but Film theory applies to animation as well as movies.
You're still wielding a camera of sorts, when you make different type of shots, it's the same techniques, low angle shot, wide shot, camera pan, all these apply the same way in anime, you just have a higher degree of freedom than in film.
Anime doesn't exist appart from film, they're part of the same art.
Anime blends both drawing and filming, it's two types of art in one.
Ignoring the film aspect of anime is just short-sighted and ignorant, sorry bro.
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>>286318016
>"It's like a California roll," Seshita said, to riotous laughter from his co-workers. According to the series director, KamiErabi is not made for a Japanese audience or told from a Japanese point of view, but instead, the team wanted to make a show that was as if a foreigner tried to make an anime, which Seshita said would inevitably end up being "fake, an imitation, but with its own style to it," just like a California roll — which was created in North America.
Ninja Slayer, PSG actually pulled it off over a decade ago. KamiErabi is just run-off-the-mill shit anime with shonen fights.
>That idea, that sense of rebellion, fuels the entirety of the KamiErabi GOD.App production. From the very beginning, Yoko Taro, best known for the Nier games, wanted to try something completely different, because the concept creator likes to "fail uniquely in my own way in every single project."
"Can we dicksuck this guy any harder in our marketing pitch?"
>KamiErabi GOD.App follows a 15-year-old privileged rich boy named Goro who attends a prestigious high school and thinks he's entitled to whatever he wants. In other words, not a nice kid.
What? The retard MC who always wants to save everyone is the biggest pushover in the show. Anyway, this slop failed in quite a predictably lame way cementing the rule that Yoko Taro is a washed up hack.
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>>286318315
Huh never knew that, I still just think of her as the Queen beast, but that does make sense that they’d use the direct religious naming.
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>>286291400
sounds like a grift but yoko taro and the music will be good
i will watch
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>>286291615
fpbp
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I’m glad they gave the keys to Eva to a specific artist with a weird voice instead of someone who will be too safe and precious over it.
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>>286291757
oh my god 2 of that bitch? one is annoying enough.
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It's about Kaworu since it's the ruins of the NERV headquarters in 3.33, and there's a Cello and a piano as focus. It could be fire as fuck if it was the prequel 3.33 much needed, aka the 14 year gap we never got. And Taro, unlike Anno, has no qualms about being a dirty otaku and actually fucks his wife so it's probably going to be better than the Rebuilds
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>>286318401
>You're still wielding a camera of sorts
You are not though. Objectively.
>you still control what's the screen!
Then it's no different from video games or comic books either.
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>>286313777
>>286313959
He should hire Mogudan for character designs
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>>286291831
Evangelion isn't really a mecha, or at least the mecha component of it is the worst part of it.
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>>286316586
That's not what she swears to fight for.
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>>286319283
The 4 or 5 Kaji x Kaworu shippers in existence are gonna go crazy
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>>286319559
She swears to fight for a world in which her happiness can exist, so yes, she swears to fight for and protect a life that can sustain that for herself and others.
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>>286291400
Why is Khara and Yoko Taro ripping off Betterman?

Betterman ED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf96XZv_x5M
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>Kaworuslop
The worst possible direction
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>>286319579
Betterman Nebula
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>>286319564
Their interactions could be great from the 10 second we saw on the last movie

>>286319597
It also means more characterization for Rebuild Asuka, Misato and Mari
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>>286319579
Is the anime better than the live action film?
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>>286298356
>influenced by Kamen Rider
Eva predates power ranger
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>>286319772
Nigga what
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It's gonna be a female MC because the narration text in the PV uses "watashi".
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>>286319772
Anon...
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>>286319810
Shiori Ikari in Genderswapped Evangelion
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The shorts specifically have Rebuild SHITsuka tell OG CUTEsuka that it's about time she gets a happy ending, why are anons suddenly speculating that none of these characters will be involved and it will be a totally separate thing?
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>>286319810
Happening.
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>>286319810
Might be Rei as well? There's a violin there. Didn't she play Violin in D&R?
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>>286319892
Btw it could also be Asuka, since she started saying cryptic shit in Rebuild as well
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>>286295478
>Evangelion has been about Amuro and Char, and their autism. Without them? What's the point?
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>>286318058
>>286318125
>>286318230
Seele are a jewish death cult, they were going to sacrifice the lives of all humanity to possess the MPEs and become immortal gods with the fruits of life and knowledge.
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>>286319810

Adult Shinji Ikari mentoring the female MC.
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>>286297303
Cute
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>>286291400
>Cloverworks
That means no nipples, a shame
I hope we at least get some ass shots
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>>286291400
The only thing I'm looking forward to is Keiichi Okabe's soundtrack, especially his remixes of older NGE themes. He's one of the greatest music composers out there and has been so since I first heard his music in Tekken 3.
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They should adapt Anima so they can give us older Shinji, Asuka and Rei. Multiple versions. And Touji with prosthetics.
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>>286321015
>they should animate novelslop so they can shit out ten more variations of all the characters for merchandise
How about no? This idea should be completely dead after the new short had Asuka dump on the idea of becoming a giantess.
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>>286321015
Stop manifesting that before it comes true. The villain looked like a bigger, evil Unit 01 in there.
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>>286291615
It might be a good show. It won't be Evangelion.
Evangelion has always been about Shinji Ikari, and his problems and issues, and trauma. And rebuild love it or hate it, pretty definitively closed the book on Shinji's story.
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>>286321015
If I wanted Super Robot Shinji I'd rewatched Rebuild 2.0 and play SRW V.

>>286321342
I remember Anno saying during between Rebuilds 1 & 2, he wanted Eva to be a franchise like Mazinger or Gundam. Honestly, it's kinda too late for that. He should latched unto the idea after Rebuild 2.
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>>286320063
Or it takes place centuries after EOE or Rebuild, and Shinji is worshipped as a Deity in a new religion that formed out of the chaos of the apocalypse. Both a destroyer who caused the apocalypse, and a restorer who saved the world from the angels.
In the story it's a metaphor for the fans who take Evangelion too seriously.
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>>286321409
>Honestly, it's kinda too late for that.
I thought if he did make a new series or spinoff it would be set between the events of 2.22 and 3.33, and be about Mari, Asuka, Misato, and the formation of Wille. Actually show us exactly what turned everyone into such assholes in the last two movies, instead of just having characters tell us what happened offscreen.
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We're gonna get Gendo and Fuyutsuki's hiking trip where they explored each other's wrinkly old man bodies while thinking of Yui
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>>286321275
asuka's giantess dump...
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>>286291400
>Do you have expectations?
Yes, I expect not to watch it
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>>286321703
Who cares about Rebuild? It's a disjointed, awkwardly paced anime version of the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Every movie feels like it's set in a different timeline or something. Just forget it and make something new already.
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>>286321948
>Who cares about Rebuild?
I want those ten years of hype I had for 3.0+1.0 back. That movie sucked.
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>>286321791
This but no homo.
Two old men hiking with beautiful shots of nature only occasionally interrupted with NERV information.
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the rider never ends
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>>286320479
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>>286316529
Nah
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What does ''bricked up'' mean?
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>>286325154
getting a boner
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>>286325154
that you snorted a whole brick of coke
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>>286291400
I don't plan to watch it at all.
Whether Anno agrees or not, Eva CAN'T be Gundam. There is too much of Anno that he put himself into Eva that it simply cannot be replicated or truly followed up on. It can't be a multi-sequel/universal franchise because of that. It's too personal.
I absolutely have no interest, plans or desire to watch it, especially with a hack like Taro at the helm. This was completely worthless and a stupid funding decision made to just make more merch money because corpos are fucking greedy.
This does not need to exist, and I will not dignify its existence whatsoever.
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>>286300575
Either another interpretation, or new characters. If you got another interpretation, it's going to get compared to the originals and Rebuilds. If it's an AU, then it's still going to get compared to the originals, that either it attracts new audiences who never even picked Eva before ala Gundam SEED/Witch. Or flops.
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>>286291831
>the state of /a/, 2026
good god in heaven, it's never been more over
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>>286318585
>Ninja Slayer, PSG actually pulled it off over a decade ago
Those shows weren't trying to make anime style. You completely miss the point.
With KamiErabi GOD.App they tried to make a show that gave off vibes as if westerners tried to make an anime, a "fake" anime, if you will. However, in the end it went deep into Buddhist themes that would totally alienate any foreigner and became far more Japanese than many other anime. This was one of the themes inside the show as well.
>The MC becomes a fake god that surpasses the real god.
>Once the MC becomes a god, he doesn't create a monotheist style religious world, but instead rewrites the world to have reincarnation.
>etc..

>>286318893
Yeah anon, the precise term they use is "聖母". The individual kanji translate to "holy" "mother", but the term is used exclusively to refer to the Virgin Mary so that's how it's normally translated, even in English-Japanese dictionaries. That game had a lot of censorship in the localization to avoid offending Christians overseas.
>God -> Gods
>Angels -> Watchers
>Church of Angels -> Cult of Watchers
and so on.
Angelus is called "Angel" in Romaji (アンヘル) in the Japanese version and they're also almost certainly a reference to the Satan who is referred to as the Red Dragon in the bible and biblical artwork.
When they get transported to Tokyo at the end of the game, Angel says "is this the kingdom of God" (which gets localized as "is this the land of the gods") and well it all kind of lines up with Chapter 12 of the book of revelations.
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>>286291400
either it's a sequel to the original TV series (Asuka's short ended with a >27) or is a full different setting with the only the original characters (since the instruments were shown in the teaser)
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I've been an evafag for decades, and remember how the Rebuilds killed /eva/ - even in in 2017, there was always an /eva/ thread in the catalogue, and when Rebuild 4 came it, it murdered the Eva discussion for good. I'll never forgive Anno for that, fuck him for ruining his own story just for the sake of pissing off his own damn fans.

On the other hand, Yoko Taro has created some of my favorite stories period, in any medium. Nier Replicant and Automata were incredible, and I enjoyed the Automata anime after it finally stopped shitting the bed in episode 4. And with Okabe handling the music, I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll get something good. But it won't be Eva, not really. Eva ended with EoE back in the 90s. But if there were a man who could take the Eva setting and make something compelling out of it, Yoko Taro would be that man, I love his wild rides.

On the other hand I'm broadly sympathetic to views like >>286325281:
>worthless decision to make more merch money because corpos are fucking greedy
I hope he's wrong about this, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't.
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>>286326255
>hates rebuilds
>likes automata
Retards expose themselves that easily huh?
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>>286326356
you are a contrarian nigger and a faggot
away with you
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>>286326514
Explain how it's contrarian, midwit.
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>>286326527
>Rebuilds are good
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>>286291400
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10838741
>you can see the kensukefag shitting and pissing on danbooru
LMAO
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>>286326541
Nice nonargument, faggot. Let me know when you have something of meaning and depth to say, otherwise you keeo exposing yourself as the immature brainlet that you are and always have been.
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>>286291831
This has to be bait. Anyone who watches Gundam knows it's not really "technical mecha" since newtypes are basically like Jedis who can communicate telepathically and psychically access higher dimensions and warp reality itself.
Personally, I do not think Evangelion is "THAT good". It is, however, EXTREMELY important within the otaku community and incredibly influential alongside with the Daicon III and IV openings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTlyKgojG78
Evangelion was also made by a bunch of recent art school graduates and Anno (who had gotten expelled from said art school) using the production committee system. Its success massively popularized the production committee system and turned it into the modern industry standard ever since then.
They only use the religious content as superficial mythology references, not any deep symbolism (unlike what many in the western fandom think). It is very much a series by young 1990s Japanese otakus, aimed specifically at the 1990s Japanese otaku community and its issues at the time. In the west, anime didn't really start becoming mainstream until the 2000s and didn't really gain mainstream social acceptance until the 2010s and so weebs were a very small niche community at the time. So, you've got this very weird situation where a lot of western fans of the series completely lack the cultural context to really understand what it was going for and some western fans schizo out and think it's got some deep religious meaning.
>Should you watch it?
Sure, if you like anime/manga as a whole then you should. A lot of other anime and manga you consume were influenced by it.
If you just sometimes watch a few things that look cool to you but aren't really a fan of anime/manga then it's probably not worth your time.
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>>286326645
fine I'll spell it out for you
>Rebuilds are good
is being contrarian. They're shit and /a/ hated them so much the final one killed /eva/ permanently
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>>286326690
Three things.
1: this isn't a real fucking argument. I don't give a shit about a or your containment threads that bridle on retarded autism. You say it killed it? I say good riddance. The only good containment thread is a dead one.
2: I don't care about a. See how I don't use /a/ like a fag clutching his pearls? It's because I don't care.
3: Evangelion would not be good or complete without Rebuild. The original by itself is decent at best. EoE bumps it. Rebuild finishes it.
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>>286291831
>Im into Technical Mecha like Gundam
It IS Gundam, except instead of being Bright-slapped Amuro gets groomed by Matilda (and faces the consequences of being emotionally stunted by that). It has "technical" scenes, though that comes more from the military in Gojira than Gundam. The religious shit is confirmation bias at best, the enemies are ayys.
>>286326255
Yoko Taro having free reign is a blessing, Tsurumaki is good at making fanfics, he is there to tard-wrangle and ensure Taro's ideas properly translate to anime. If Anno doesn't force them to insert his wife into the story again it might work.
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>>286326765
and I don't give a shit about your contrarianism. Evangelion + EoE were a finished, coherent, excellent story. Rebuild added nothing to them that was good, and a lot that was bad. fucking tourist.
>Evangelion would not be good with out Rebuilds
this has to be fucking bait, but some underage b& probably think this is true
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>>286326765
>Evangelion would not be good or complete without Rebuild.
>Rebuild finishes it.
Rebuild added nothing of note that wasn't in the original+EoE, what it repeated was worse then the original, and what it tried to make different fell flat. Anno, fundamentally, can't write what he tried to write with the rebuilds, because he's passing out advice he himself has never taken, guiding the viewer by radio through frontiers he never braved himself. If he eventually dumps his barren wife and finds a new one to pump out a kid then he might become able to earnestly say to otaku "you should explore more of life than anime/manga/toku", but as it stands, Moyoco is just a waifu like the ones from me!me!me!, a sex object that also acts like an emotional sponge, not a true wife.
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>>286326862
It's not bait. I'm sure that's hard to fathom in your own pseud brain who thinks he has Eva figured out and obsessed over it like a loser, but it's true. If you don't like Rebuild, you don't truly like Eva at all. Cry about it.
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>>286326908
>you should explore more of life than anime/manga/toku
what made the message of Eva so encouraging was the depiction of a young boy, earnest, lonely, and afraid refusing the comfort of Instrumentality and choosing to encounter people as individuals even though that necessarily causes pain. It's understood that process is a long, difficult one - it's framed as apocalyptic, for crying out loud, and Anno just shits on it by introducing a big boobed empty shell of a waifu who has no substance to her whatsoever and is just a hot, positive waifu figure for Shinji. "Just go outside a big titty gf will adore you unconditionally" doesn't carry nearly the same impact.
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never played Nier Automata or Replicant the most exposure to nier was the FFXIV raid.

mite as well cross it off the backlog to see what this he will to do eva
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>>286327029
you could start with the Nier Automata anime, the first three episodes are rocky with bad CGI/animation, but the quality substantially improves from episode 4 and stays pretty high after that. 8 hours is a lot less of a time sink than the 35-40 it takes to play through Replicant/Automata, although those are both really good games.
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>>286327010
>and Anno just shits on it by introducing a big boobed empty shell of a waifu who has no substance to her whatsoever and is just a hot, positive waifu figure for Shinji.
It's like he won the lottery and saw himself fit to give financial advice on how to get rich, he isn't humble enough to understand how, even as skilled and driven as he is, he lucked out into the fame and recognition and pussy a franchise such as Eva brings. He's the guy who was late to the party and decided to compensate for lost time getting blackout drunk, becoming unable to drive himself home like everyone else.
>>286327029
Replicant is meh, Automata is more fun as a game and has better characters (and is playable standalone if you read a small summary of replicant and drakengard's bad ending). The feel of it fits Eva, with maybe less Ultraman-ish designs, and just a tiny bit of that french postmodern aesthetic in FF7 and The City of Lost Children.
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Who is the best Rei's clone.
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>>286327160
Nagato Yuki
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>>286327160
Saya from Saya No Uta.
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>>286326765
>Evangelion would not be good or complete without Rebuild. The original by itself is decent at best. EoE bumps it. Rebuild finishes it.
Anon is enjoying Evangelion the way Anno intended and wants him to. Unfathomably based.
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>>286326765
rebuild isnt canon
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>>286327010
>Anno just shits on it by introducing a big boobed empty shell of a waifu who has no substance to her whatsoever and is just a hot, positive waifu figure for Shinji. "Just go outside a big titty gf will adore you unconditionally" doesn't carry nearly the same impact.
It's the next natural phase of achieving maturity.

If Eva's thesis can be summarized as:
>it's worth opening up to people even if you get hurt by them
Rebuild's is:
>it's also ok to disappoint people in the pursuit of your own happiness.
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>>286327448
The way Anno wants the viewer to ''enjoy'' Evangelion is trhough insatiable consumerism of everything realated to the name Evangelion.
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>>286327168
Clearly this.
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>>286327556
I think Rebuild's thesis is more accurately portrayed as "If you want to move forward you have to leave something behind". The something in this case being Eva.
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>>286327588
I feel like Anno would positively HATE Nagato Yuki
Good. Fuck him, I hope someone shits in his onsen
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>>286327597
>The something in this case being Eva
Which clearly shows how Anno is treating Evangelion.
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>>286291400
It'll be like Gquacks, in two months people will struggle to remember it exists.
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>>286327611
Remember how Char disguised himself by combing his bangs over his eyes like 2000's emo boy?
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>>286327658
No, I genuinely don't. I struggle to remember anything about Gcucks and its only legacy will be decent porn.
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>>286324986
I love this blue-haired, big boobed pilot
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>>286327609
Obviously, he's checked out after Thrice. As far as his narrative is concerned he's finished.
And I mean, he really should be finished. You can tell he REALLY wants to do anything other than Eva at this point. Thankfully he has no involvement in this new project.
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>>286291400
1. Hopefully it won't come out as a typical mecha with the usual tropes. I liked the original mashup of various theologies and Freudian dialectic.

2. Don't let damn Netflix get the rights to it when it comes to the U.S. . The ADV English dub was better than the Netflix dub.

3. Inb4 dubs vs subs argument. Not knocking subs. English is my language and am more comfortable with it just saying.
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>>286327605
He would hate it in the same way Tomino hates Macross, that is, being jealous. It's hilarious that he presented people with a stunted return to the womb in Rei, and a challenge to take in Asuka, and people both developed Rei into better characters in other anime while reducing Asuka to tsundere. Anno's rejection of motherhood will forever hold him back.
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>>286327597
if that's true, it's an extremely hypocritical message, because Anno has never left Eva behind, and it probably pisses him off. Might be why he was so interested in destroying it, but instead of making something else, genuinely moving on, he chose to ruin the rebuilds with shitty writing, terrible new characters like Mari, and rewrites that landed badly. THAT is not Asuka. Don't know who it is but it's not Asuka. The only improvements were better production values and some of the Angel battles were really well done in Rebuilds 1 and 2. But even those turned to shit in 3 and 4, the large fights in 4 were especially terrible.

In the end Anno is known for Eva and nothing else. Instead of moving on he doubled down in the worst possible way by shitting on his own creation and angering the very fans that made him successful in the first place.
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>>286327701
Then why would he say Eva should be like Gundam and have constant installments?
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>>286327701
You talk like everything's set in stone. Don't tell me you actually fell for the the whole ''Rebuild is the End of Evangelion''?
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>>286327726
>Anno's rejection of motherhood will forever hold him back.
Elaborate on this?
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Did MarixShinji flop? For their 30th anniversary, the big dish ship fanservice they served was the Asuka-centric/Asushin centric animated short, and the Kaworu-centric/Kawoshin centric kabuki stage play.
I can't stress the big deal of last one, they hired even the imperial musians and the best composer of national kabuki and actors to play this. It's not some animu stage cheap production but a cultural one.

Eva is healing and back to the traditional Asushin vs Kawoshin.
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>>286327758
I don't think Anno is going to write or direct another Eva anymore. He's tapped out, but that doesn't mean the company is not going to give the setting over to other artists. That's not something Anno himself can control, even if he wished to.
He's not coming back, and this is a VERY good thing.
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>>286327800
rebuild isnt even canon
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>>286291831
i know this is bait but it's a short series, just watch it.
>BUT MUH REBOOT
they are a sequel anyway, you have to watch the original still.
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>>286291400
It's simple.
Keep hidden the protagonist and antagonist origins.
Then reveal they are both asushin children.
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>>286327800
It's not really a "ship" meant for "shippers". Mari x Shinji being a thing is a plot point meant to further the themes of Rebuild and just a little something to close off Shinji's character arc showing that he's not alone.
Frankly that's probably a good thing. Seeing the mental illness that ships spawn, I'd hope the next Eva has less of them.
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>>286327800
Kawoshin? A cultural icon.
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>>286327737
Because he wants other people to stay stuck in Eva, it is supposed to be something people flock around as if he's some absent anime Jesus.
Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8vt5Sp_HSE
>>286327762
Rei is the mother, choosing her is being stuck in his parent's way, his traditionalist nation's way, his motherland, his customs, women being quiet and traditional. He rejects that, he makes it so it is disgusting for Shinji to choose Rei (because biologically she is his mother), he traces the choice of motherly traits in a woman to oedipal sickness. Asuka is broken, an outsider, abrasive, but she's not a disgusting choice for Shinji. Anno portrays himself as having the choice between incest and a challenge when it comes to women, in the original show, with Misato only ever being the "learning stage" of early adulthood. Since Anno's parents are broken he thinks all parents are broken, and that nagging broken women are less boken than mothers. That will forever stop him from achieving what he yearns for, a normal family life, as he can't have a mother for a wife. After he met his wife he added a 3rd girl to the mix, the prostitute, a chick that will unconditionally want to smother you in her infertile breasts (but only if you're a successful anime director/Eva pilot). Shinji will never be solved (by Anno) because he's so afraid of becoming Gendo that he won't have a kid (written by Anno).
Anno hates Evangelion because it's a window to his soul, a very obvious one, and it shows his own flaws.
This new "open to others" direction he's taking Eva into can maybe redeem him, if someone who doesn't reject mothers is able to direct a nice show where someone other than Shinji ends up with Rei/Yui and that is portrayed as good, with her having children and treating them better than Anno's parents treated him.
Sadly, that won't be Yoko Taro, he has a boner for infertile love-dolls, which is healthy enough for him but won't redeem Anno.
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>>286327826
It is canon. I mean that for all intents and purposes, the big impact love interests Shinji has will always be Asuka and Kaworu. I love Rei, and while waifuwars with Asuka are frequent, her pairing with him isn't as popular, even if I really liked it too.
There was indeed love and care pour to Asuka and Kaworu this anniversary, and of their relationship with Shinji.
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>>286327611
>Eva GQuX
>In the end it's all just Rei, Kaworu, or Yui's dream universe
>New characters are literally nothing burgers, and people are more interested in seeing old characters

Yeah, it do be like that

>>286327658
Remember how literally they brought in the universe creating Lalah out of their asses? As if Unicorn's newtype magic wasn't enough.
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>>286327762
He must accept the more motherly Ayanami as the best of the best.
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>>286327887
Kabuki Prince and Kabuki Hope played Kaworu and Shinji. It's really kind of extremely high effort. A lot of newspapers are praising the production.
>>286327872
Maybe. But it somehow feels that she was a rebound because Kaworu and Rei were paired before him, something to make him look "noble." One Last Kiss is a song about never forgetting your great love, even if you can't be with them and they no longer remember/knows how much you love them. It's a little on the nose. He could be happy with Mari, but satisfaction and true love aren't the same.
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>>286321409
>he wanted Eva to be a franchise like Mazinger or Gundam.
How? The world is too small.
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>>286327029
You could start with either game, they both kind of spoil each other but Yoko Taro tends to purposely set up every game he makes in such a way that you have no idea wtf is going on at first.
The timeline is
>Drag-On Dragoon 3 -> Drag-On Dragoon 1 -> NieR Replicant -> YoRHa Stage Play -> NieR:Automata -> NieR Re[in]carnation
Drag-On Dragoon 1 is heavily influenced by Evangelion but it was made way back in the day and the gameplay was not good back then and did not age well at all. It was supposed to be a Musou + Flight Shooter game but was overly ambitious for a small beginner studio with limited resources. So, I highly recommend skipping DoD games (localized as Drakengard), at least until after playing the NieR games. Nothing that happened in the DoD games matters for the NieR games until you start digging into the deep lore.
Automata is a newer game with better combat and arguably the best game to play if you only had to choose one. Replicant ver 1.22.. is an older game (even though it got updated combat they decided to keep the combat similar to the old system) so it will definitely feel like an older game at times.
You could also watch the NieR:Automata anime, it's a parallel timeline to the game (both canon) and covers the events from the stage play. Just make sure to grab the blu-ray release.
>>286327082
>the first three episodes are rocky with bad CGI/animation
They reworked all the CGI for the blu-ray release.
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>>286327948
>>286321409
I suggested this before, but expanding on Eva already known cast and making the story with them as protagonists fundamentally changed it, this was Anno's attempt with NGE 2 when he had no budget for a new anime. Who knows what Taro will cook. I still hope for a new story. There are still many cycles and unknown factors between NGE and Rebuild, all those coffins that were circling around the Moon. Shinji and the rest could exist in the background to a new cast.
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>>286327925
>Maybe. But it somehow feels that she was a rebound because Kaworu and Rei were paired before him, something to make him look "noble." One Last Kiss is a song about never forgetting your great love, even if you can't be with them and they no longer remember/knows how much you love them. It's a little on the nose. He could be happy with Mari, but satisfaction and true love aren't the same.
While I don't disagree on a fundamental level, I'd just say it's probably not correct to labor the point and describe Shinji as overly melancholy about it. It is an appropriately huge sacrifice as we can see by his emotional farewells to the people he loves, but the real heart of it is that "true love" isn't Shinji's concern anymore, because remaining trapped by that ideal will only doom him and his loved ones to further cycles of misery. The wisdom that Shinji achieved at the end was that letting go was the real path to finding one's place of belonging. Maybe that's what it means to grow up.
That is, if we are trying to take Rebuild's theme and story seriously.
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>>286327010
>and Anno just shits on it by introducing a big boobed empty shell of a waifu who has no substance to her whatsoever and is just a hot, positive waifu figure for Shinji. "Just go outside a big titty gf will adore you unconditionally" doesn't carry nearly the same impact.
After reading the storyboard, I'm not sure this was the intention. The intention was a bittersweet send off where Shinji loses the love of his life for multile lives, Kaworu and Rei (both or one of them), to save them from the cyclic misery of Eva so they can be free of their role of dying for their sake, choosing them above himself, even if they'll lose their memories and be out their grasp (they seem to be a couple), with Mari overseeing this and removing his sins and welcomed him as a companion in the new world. But it doesn't mean he loves Mari (the sound director affirmed he doesn't love her), and One Last Kiss is a song of losing the love of your life, not ending up with them ("I love you more than you'll ever know"). She's a relief and a sweetener he won't be fully alone, even if he had to give up a lot.
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>>286291400
>Do you have expectations?
If a male pilot does not fall in love with his Evangelion, I will be very disappointed in ol' Yoko Taro.
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>>286328014
Because he's happy they are happy. He's matured enough to put them above himself. Of course he's overjoyed. That's why the scene has many takes, but it's always about watching Kaworu and Rei happy and free even if they don't remember him. Shinji's the one with unconditional love now. It came full circle.
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>>286327898
I hope you're wrong, but that's because I don't want the things you say to be true. I think they are though. Damn that's a brutal read on the situation (he added a prostitute? Sad), but it explains perfectly why the Rebuilds felt so artificial and infuriating in the end. He didn't successfully move past or surpass the messaging of the original + EoE because he was (and is) psychically incapable of doing so
>Yoko Taro
I genuinely lost it, I love that pervert to death, but you're right, a guy obsessed with silver-haired infertile sexpots is not going to address the true resolution of a character like Shinji, marriage and family.
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>>286328014
He just recovered his awareness of his existence, and he sees the ones he tried to save and died horrible on him (for multiple lives, that he even remembers) there living a happy life. This isn't longer the Shinji who selfishly craved love, this is Shinji at the end of all those lives who now is the one who loves. One Last Kiss is a cheerful, upbeat song despite the lyrics being about being separated from your true love. It's perfect.
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>>286328035
>Shinji's the one with unconditional love now.
Exactly. He was willing to die forever. His love is unconditional.
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>>286328053
>not going to address the true resolution of a character like Shinji, marriage and family.
It's an "original" story. The cello and other instruments being rundown with vines make me think the original cast is out.
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>>286328053
I hope I'm wrong too, I may be harsh but I genuinely wish Anno the best. What's sad to me is that he'll never overcome his traumatic relationship with his parents, and he won't even have a kindred soul in his wife to empathize because she, in him, found a child to take care of. So, in denying oedipus, Anno found a fake mom to fuck.
Shit, you can count on a Gundam fanboy to become Char.
>>286328088
Sure, but even then there will probably be no solution. Anno doesn't solve stuff because he doesn't know how, while Taro looks like he may know how to solve stuff but keeps those solutions to his personal life, and creates unsolved media.
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>>286328088
I think so too, which makes me more than a bit excited to see Yoko Taro's next wild ride. I loved the Nier Automata anime, and was honestly surprised it was such a close adaptation of the game, practically 1:1
I might have preferred wild divergences but that's because I (foolishly?) trust in his madness Hopefully that insanity can be front and center with this Eva project. Will it have a silver-haired heroine? Place your bets now!
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>>286328016
>>286328035
You are going a way too far with this idea of yours that it's all about securing a future for Kaworu and Rei, when the movie is clearly even more about Shinji reaching self-actualization independently too and finding his own happiness in his own path without looking back. Giving Asuka, Kaworu and Rei their happy ending is necessary for Shinji to move on, but it's ultimately with leaving them behind that's where his happiness can ALSO begin, like theirs.
>the sound director affirmed he doesn't love her
Don't twist his words, there's no need for that.
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>>286328108
It's just going to be a new story set in Eva world, not another story about Shinji. Anno was Shinji so I don't think there can be another story with Shinji as the protagonist/main character.
Like the short and kabuki play in anni had Asuka/Kaworu as protagonists. I also don't expect them to be the MCs because they have a lot of exposure already.
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>>286328127
Mari wasn't even in all the versions of the last scene (it's not always in a train station too, one is in a park).
>Don't twist his words, there's no need for that.
He specificially said their interaction wasn't meant to be romantic? There's no twisting there. Romance wasn't the intention. Kensuke/Asuka, and Kaworu/Rei are more locked in.
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REIFAGS WERE OWNED AGAIN! TOTAL ASUKA VICTORY!
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>>286328127
His happiness was in saving the people he wanted to save who he always fails to save. Anno played the same thing in NGE 2 Shinji route finale. He's only happy if he can save those three (annoyed me Misato can get fucked tough). He was unhappy because he lost them specificially. And it was HIS fault they died somehow. You understand?
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>>286328020
>If a male pilot does not fall in love with his Evangelion
You want him to romance his feral giantess biomech mother?
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>>286328138
I get that, but it will likely, due to Taro, be a story where the protags reach a blueballsy ending. That's fine, it's probably better that Taro works in his comfort zone, but it won't give Anno what he wants.
I do hope we have more named characters, maybe they're all silver-haired like >>286328122 mentioned, that would be in line with Kaworu being borderline human but not quite (like 2B). Maybe it's set in a world populated by the human-like "angels" that spread their genes and hit earth via panspermia. Maybe they won and got to Lilith causing the impact they wanted, maybe humanity is no more and was replaced by angels (who now fight abominations coming from humans), that would be both in line with Taro and with things like Diebuster.
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>>286328193
You DON'T?
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>>286328207
Anno has throaway shit in NGE and Rebuild lore he never explored, if he wants albinos. In NGE with the FAR, there are 5 more seed of life and Rebuild had those 4 Adams.
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>>286328156
It's not about Mari, whether they're in love or not at the ending is entirely immaterial, she's only there to serve as an ideal for Shinji to strive towards and a partner for him in the new world because they both want to walk the same path. This is about Shinji. What I take umbrage with is the notion that Shinji leaving Kaworu/Asuka/Rei behind wasn't as equally for his own benefit as it was for theirs, because he is also looking for his place of belonging, and he can only find it by leaving Eva behind.
>He specificially said their interaction wasn't meant to be romantic?
No, he said he wasn't directed to direct the VAs in any which way, and that he, personally believes it to not be so. Those are not the same thing. But, this is a digression, it's not really relevant to the point.
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>>286328222
Lilith
Adam
Name other 5 life seeds
I'll name them:
Steve (the one who cucks Shinji in NGE2)
4 more.
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>>286328230
>What I take umbrage with is the notion that Shinji leaving Kaworu/Asuka/Rei behind wasn't as equally for his own benefit as it was for theirs, because he is also looking for his place of belonging, and he can only find it by leaving Eva behind.
He was going to literally kill himself forever when he took that choice. It wasn't for HIS happiness. That his parents took the bullet for him wasn't what he planned.
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>>286328241
Seth
Cain
Abel
Asmodeus?
If they're still doing Abrahamic centric shit. Eve is taken by Eva.
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>>286328241
>Steve (the one who cucks Shinji in NGE2)
What did steve do?
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>>286328254
Shinji had no idea AT ALL what would happen when he used Gaius. He already told Rei that he would be fine because Mari promised to come for him. The truth is he could only hope that he would make it out alive, but such is the weight of his new responsibility for his friends and the world.
I'm not saying that leaving Eva behind was NOT a significant sadness for him, because it is. He's having to leave his past and everyone he loved behind only for the chance and promise he finds a place where he belongs to one day like they have found with Rei/Village, Kaworu/Kaji and Asuka/Kensuke. This is significant.

Equally significant, however, is that Shinji can only find this new place, this new world, if he leaves them all behind too. He's doing this for everyone's sake, including his own.
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>>286328303
In Kaworu's route, a third seed of life appears and says the equivalent of "hot stuff, grab your kids and lets find a planet to settle together ;)" (took kaworu's form to speak so sadly didn't have an original design)
And Kaworu regained all his Adam awareness and tanged all Evas and angels and packed them up.
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>>286328307
>Mari promised to come for him.
Shinji was feebly reassuring Rei with that. He knew what would happen. Mari couldn't save him from that and didn't.
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They should adapt the aliens lore
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>>286328193
Well it doesn't have to be his mother in this incarnation, but yes. Nay, I demand it.
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>>286328359
Kaworu and Rei show?
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>>286328321
That's awkward for Asuka mom and and Yui.
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>>286328340
I clearly don't agree, but there's not much else that can be said about the matter when it's about one's own personal interpretation. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Regardless, I have enjoyed this conversation.
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While I really like Yoko Taro, I think he doesn't really fit EVA. However, since the Rebuilds were so fucking awful, I think it's practically impossible for him to fuck it up even further.
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>>286328451
it can easily get worse
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>>286328411
Same anon. It's a great change from the shitposting here.
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>>286328451
Yoko Taro is a man who seems to fundamentally like what he works on. I've watched playthroughs of Drakenguard 3, spent 400 hours on the Nier games, and watched the Nier animu obsessively. Labors of love as far as I could tell.
With that sort of mentality, even if he's not the right person to truly capture Eva's tone, I think it will be a story he's genuinely excited to create, unlike Anno's last 4 movies. That alone makes me give him the benefit of the doubt.
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>>286328506
Leave it to an eva thread, sasuga you fuckers
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>>286328451
It’ll be a unique experience after years of Anno’s writing to have someone writing for Evangelion anime who actually loves Evangelion.
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>>286328594
The guy puts tremendous respect on the name, he was quoted saying that before anyone even thinks of taking inspiration from him, they should study Evangelion thoroughly first. Putting a guy like that in the driver’s seat will be interesting at least.
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>>286291945
>>286318016

>Anno chose Christian symbolism because he thought it looked cool.

The only reason he started pushing this false narrative is because the show became unexpectedly popular overseas, and he and the studio decided the best way to minimize controversy in western markets was to mislead audiences about Anno's true intentions (alternative theory; Anno also lied to the studio so that he could get away with inserting his religious ideas without interference).

It's so very obvious that he had researched Christianity deeply and intended to explore Christian themes. Nothing in the original show wasn't deeply thought through and intentional.

the average anime fan is not very intelligent and easily fooled
>he said it in an interview, durrr must be twue!
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You know what... I have never seen a single Mari/Shinji merch piece or extra work outside of movie cap. There's even some stuff with Kensuke and Asuka, and obviously Kaworei, but never of that ship.
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>>286328652
It’s become very unpopular to say but Anno’s ball knowledge on /x/ topics is pretty apparent in Evangelion, you don’t just accidentally do that.
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>>286328675
The general reaction I’ve seen on Jap twitter is “I’m happy for Shinji” but the ship isn’t very popular because Mari isn’t really a character.
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>>286319772
you actually need toku reps to understand eva more
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>>286328701
Where is that from? God, Shinji's aged like milk.
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>>286328675
Kensuke/Asuka, and Rei/Kaworue existed before Rebuild in actual stuff (even if was one sided from Rei I and Kensuke).
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Rei/Kaworu is so funny to me.
>idk put the alien weirdos together I guess
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>>286328652
>aislop image
>ai-generated retarded post
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>>286328727
Lead animator.
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>>286328652
>It's so very obvious that he had researched Christianity deeply and intended to explore Christian themes
yeah Evangelion is rife with stuff like the book of Enoch, the plots of the Nephilim, hidden gnostic knowledge, all that shit. All very primal, powerful imagery. It definitely does not come across as lazy, sloppy, or random, "window dressing." He gets away with it because Eva is not trying to depict religious Christian orthodoxy eg traditional Catholicism, even though its central theme - exploring and healing broken humanity - is the very thing Christianity is concerned about.
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Rei's breasts
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>>286328774
I wonder if Shinji was the first to fondle them.
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>>286328675
I got a lot of good art of the Rebuild ending saved.
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>>286328679
especially in an era before it was easy to look up whatever niche you wanted online
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>>286328744
There're some instances in the franchise that basically portray Lilith as wanting Adam. Rei I when the "triplets" Rei is out sometimes has a one sided crush on Kaworu and hates Shinji.
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>>286328744
it's more adam/lilith than kaworu/rei, something something great work
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So what was NGE about after all?
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>>286328763
Eva is pure Gnosticism. That's literally what instrumentality is, achieving gnosis. Though ironically Anno seems to reject the very thesis of gnosticism by choosing the imperfect world.
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>>286328744
Rei (at least Rei I) has been portrayed into Kaworu. The whole EoE deal is fusing with Shinji (who Rei II likes) and with Kaworu/Adam (who Rei I likes). Rei III grabs Adam and tells Gendo to fuck off before going for Shinji. Her greed.
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>>286328850
Attempting to overcome trauma.
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>>286328850
It's about the gentiles stopping a conspiracy.
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Wait, Kaworu is... Adam?
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>>286328885
Time to rewatch Evangelion, anon.
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>>286328883
It's funny to read it from Russia
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>>286328885
Always was.
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>>286291400
All I'm getting from this is that Anno wants his series to be a staple in SRW
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>>286328890
What about the giant of light? Where did he go?
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>>286328885
He's certainty not the serpent.
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>>286328855
It subverts gnosticism.
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>>286328885
Why do you think he's so powerful compared to other angels?
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>>286328903
>literally a Ryo Asuka copy with all the gay stuff included
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>>286328901
Became a lil embryo dude.
Rewatch Evangelion.
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>>286328918
>Became a lil embryo dude
But why?
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>>286328894
On the bright side, if you live in Chelyabinsk you could larp as a fallout protagonist.
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>>286328901
The Katsuragi expedition basically raped Adam to create angels. The Second impact was the unwilling childbirth. Adam was chilling until they put lilin dni in their core removed longinus and so the giant EXPLODED into an impact. This momentarily split their soul and body. body without a soul became an embryo, and they trapped the soul into a lilin/angel hybrid born from this. that was kaworu.
A reason why Kaworu's not really as hostile as other angels is because is a seed of life. It's purpose is to create life, even with the identity and existential crisis.
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>>286328927
Second impact they experiment on him after they found him on Antarctica.
He became an embrio, part of it goes to kaji and gendo, part of it works with selee, aka kaworu.
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>>286328935
Or a Metro protagonist.
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>>286328910
The biblical metaphor breaks down if he's simultaneously the first man and Satan.
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>>286328910
Kaworu loves humans though. That's kind of the issue and let them use him.
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>>286328961
Sow who's God? The Creator?
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>>286303757
>??? days until Yoko Taro's Evangelion™ releases
I miss the countdown threads.
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>>286328927
The second impact because its body to explode. It wasn't purposeful on Adam's part. It was SEELE and their goos that provoked it, to create angels, and to split the body/soul of Adam (Gendo did the same with Lilith) to control Adam.
Adam and Lilith were too nice to humans after all that shit they put them through.
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I remember there was a theory that Asuka slept with Shinji because they were talking when both of them were naked. Was that legit theory or just shitposting?
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>>286328993
both
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>>286328885
Yui/Eva (01) = Shinji's mother
Rei/Lilith = humans/lilin's mother
Kaworu/Adam = angels' mother
EoE is a postmodern Oedipus story where Shinji "becomes one" with ur mom and his mom and everyone's mom.
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>>286328993
There’s enough there to suggest that they may have done the deed at some point in the series but I don’t personally believe that to be the case.
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>>286328901
Everyone was supposed to be a giant of light. Angels, humans, everyone, but Lilith fucked up and crashed on Adam's assigned planet and made a mess. Both angels and humans are aliens tanged soul from a different world they were supposed to resurrect in different planets.
The whole series conflict is caused by a manchildren jew council who makes kids fight together kids by weaponizing their moms. Angels look gigantic but were born 15 years ago.
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I’d be curious to see what an Angel seeded planet would look like.
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>>286291400
3.0+1.0 was the perfect ending for me. The case is completely closed. I liked it and have 0 reason to get back to this franchise again.
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>>286329100
I’m glad people who consider 3.0+1.0 to be their perfect ending want to leave.
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>>286291831
first episodes are a bit cringey but it gets good later on. especially if you also include the end of Evangelion film.
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>>286329100
EoE is my perfect ending (with episode 27 as icing on the cake) but I don’t feel the need to leave.
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>>286321342
He looks so cool in that shot.
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>>286329100
"Congratulations!" was the perfect ending. EoE was a temper tantrum and the Rebuilds just bad fanfic.
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>>286329128
I'm glad to be able to exit content instead of being strung along for another 30 years
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>>286329180
There is no tension between EoTV and EoE, and anyone who thinks there is, is hallucinating.
Anno did not make EoE as a fuck you. He was just being real.
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>>286291400
How many episodes? Is it a movie?
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>>286329184
Me too, go, be free anon.
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>>286329204
No info as yet, just the teaser video.
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so funny how pseuds were saying 4.0 was about "ANNO WANTS YOU TO MOVE ON MANCHILD!" followed by him making this slop with no delay
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>>286291400
You have to be a retarded masochist to consume EVA post EoE when it's pretty obvious they are using the IP as a cash cow.
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>>286329195
truth nuke
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>>286329221
>no delay
What's 5 years between friends?
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>>286329258
I don’t care if they make money, I’ll make my own decisions on what to watch, thanks.
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>>286328652
It wasn't just him. Others said it in interviews too. Moreover, if it was actually damage control to "minimize controversy in western markets" then Anno wouldn't have also ranted about how he hates westerners.
>>286328763
All of this is stuff one would find in a dictionary, which is what Anno said he used.
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>>286328855
>gnosis
This is also in-line with Shinto beliefs about Kami and many anime/manga touch on the same concept.
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>>286328652
Gainax were a bunch of sci-fi nerds who would be well aware of alternate literary sources for the concepts.
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>>286328122
>I loved the Nier Automata anime, and was honestly surprised it was such a close adaptation of the game, practically 1:1
Did you watch it with your eyes closed?
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>New Evangelion if it were good
Takes place in the End of Evangelion universe, cranks the Christian imagery up to 11, Shinji is quite literally Jesus Christ. Evangelion Unit 01 is the bad guy, (((SEELE))) is fucking PISSED at Shinji and goes full Synagogue of Satan on his ass. Asuka saves the world, not by piloting, but actually fixing things by being a scientist and politician, while Shinji rips and tears literal demons.
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>>286329654
That sounds so retarded.
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>>286329667
>vs Rebuild
Begone.
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>>286291400
Anno 5 years ago
>Fucking move on already for fucks sake I'm so sick of making this evangelion shit 25 years are you fucking serious?
Anno now
>I need a new car, the old one's getting dirty
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>>286329195
yeah I just rewatched Eva + EoE a little while go on Melli and there's no inconsistency between the two of them. EoE just spells out and makes more narrative sense with the implications and sketches of the last few episodes of the TV series. It's a perfect ending and the only canon one, Rebuilds are just, well, badly made fanfics by a man who hates his own creation.
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>>286329682
I haven't watched Rebuild.
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>>286329568
are you referring to the Lily sections that largely aren't in the game unless you count the massive text walls? I'm referring to the chief plot points that culminate in Ending E, that's the narrative core of the game and the anime adapts it very faithfully indeed.
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>>286329697
>>286329714
Rebuild was honestly such a slap to the face I absolutely will not watch this if Anno has any more involvement than his name on the credits, the motherfucker went a full 180 on his message because he made it big.
>hey otaku go live your lives and don't spend all your money!
>now
>fuck you paypigs here's my wife as a self insert I'm evangelion bitchhhhhhhh
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>>286329731
And you haven't seen the original either. End of Evangelion is essentially the Rapture.
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>>286329761
>And you haven't seen the original either.
I've only seen NGE TV and EoE as well as Death² i think the recap movie was called. Basically only the originals.
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>>286329778
And understood none of it.
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>>286329788
What's with this aggressive projection? I understood enough not to bother with anything else. It was perfect as it was and shouldn't be bothered as a grave. Let it rest.
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>>286329751
>Rebuild was honestly such a slap to the face
4 was the real killer. Q was largely shit, but it could have set up a conclusion that wasn't. After 4th Rebuild, and seeing how much the creator despised and held contempt for the very people who'd made him successful in the first place, well that made discussing Evangelion not as fun anymore. It was one of the most-loved series on /a/ and the most-talked about, with genuine conversation too, not just pic related shitposting. Hell this thread has been better than most, simply because Eva's being discussed again, Eva is perpetually relevant for oldfags, and they still like talking about it every now and then.
>avoiding it if Anno's involved
the cynical part of me thinks he'll just collect royalties or however the fuck that works in nipland and leave it otherwise alone. I think we'll get a Yoko Taro story with Eva aesthetics and that's fine by me, or at least I'll give it an open, honest try. Taro really loves Eva, and loving a thing is a requirement to make a thing good. So I'm very encouraged there.
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>>286328193
Sure
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>>286329761
So was the TV ending, if you have eyes to see.
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>>286329654
It's in the far future, Evangelion technology gets rediscovered in ancient Nerv ruins, and the cult conspiracy is faking the angel attacks. It's all to datamine everybody's kids and manipulate their lives to resemble the original Children, to create human sacrifices that will get God Rei's attention.
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>>286329819
Yeah Taro is a good choice to handle a new Eva series. I'm more miffed about Tsurumaki's involvment after 3, 4. and G-quxx - I loved Diebuster, but the man lost his mojo when it comes to action.
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>>286329195
>EoTV and EoE, and anyone who thinks there is, is hallucinating.
Gendo being there is a huge one. Anno said they were different endings as scenarios.
Gendo gets fucked in EoE.
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>>286330195
>Gendo gets fucked in EoE.
He kinda deserved it though.
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>>286329804
>projection
Your retardation on full display is not projection.
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I like the original anime while the movies and rebuild were kinda weird
the Sadamoto view on eva stay more comprehensive than any personnal bullshit Anno can bring, I hope Taro will make it
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I hope every SEELE dog suffered a lot before instrumentality
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>>286291400
would like to see more stuff from FAR, there's basically no limit to the stuff you could dive into with it
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>>286291881
Sephardic is the ideal version iirc
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>>286305038
Pure goyslop, fuck you Anno and all your fanbase jerking off to this shit.
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>>286291400
>>286291615
>Yoko Taro

2B + Shinji good ending. He will have best girl and discard the flesh onaholes.

We win Automata bros.
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Asuka is more submissive than Rei. But you aren't ready to discuss it yet
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>tfw you are older than Misato and you are reaching Gendou's age

Dammit, make it stop!
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>>286329180
yeah, TV Eva just completely mogs latter flicks.
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>>286331183
>the same age as Fuyutsuki
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>>286321015
No, just animate kino pic related.
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>>286331238
What are we doing here, man?
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>>286329128
>I'm glad people found closure in the finale of the series unlike me who never wants anything to end ever
Okay?
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>>286328825
There's always been magazines and newsletters about that kind of shit going around
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>>286331183
>younger than anime character when you first watched it
>now old enough to be their parent
>still want to fuck them
Many such cases.

>>286331257
Here forever, etc. Not the anon you replied to, but I make no bones about having been on this website for almost 22 years now.
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>>286328652
I think another thing I've learned to appreciate is that you can still use something with intention and understanding, even if it doesn't have greater meaning or depth in the story. It looks and sounds cool, but it is used in an appropriately
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>>286291400
>Expectation

G-Reconquista - Evangelion Edition.
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>>286320479
>>286324986
Cute
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>>286291726
Cute butt
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>>286297303
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>>286331926
On hindsight, Shikinami is has a pretty big rack
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>>286291831
Evangelion is one of those series that has had a major influence on the entire industry and made certain kinds of anime possible outside of very niche stuff
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>>286331871
Let's not get our hopes up too high.
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>>286327780
Asuka with freckles looks even cuter IMO
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All this thread has done is prove that faggots will project their own meaning unto Evangelion instead of accepting the entirety of it is as it is and pretending like it's the best thing ever just because of their shitty headcanon. You cretins are absolute retards and deserve all the strife and ridicule you get.
By the way, Rei and Asuka are children. They shouldn't be sexualized or talked about like waifus, you disgusting pedos.
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>>286291400
>>286291400
>Do you have expectations?
No.

>What does the evafags think about it?
The Rebuilds have proven that there is no need for new Evangelion media as the original run + EoE is already irreplicable and perfect.
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>>286332252
Rei's butt
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>>286332252
Too pink for a Jap
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>>286332217
>By the way, Rei and Asuka are children. They shouldn't be sexualized or talked about like waifus, you disgusting pedos.
Gay ass nigga
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>>286332235
I didn't ask for a description of your shitty pseud Evangelion analysis.
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Asukabro status?
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>>286332217
If they are old enough to pilot, they are old enough to be waifus.
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>>286332272
Being half Lilith will do that to ya.
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>>286332305
Kino
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>>286332304
>>286332286
Kill yourselves.
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>>286332217
>By the way, Rei and Asuka are children. They shouldn't be sexualized or talked about like waifus
It's a show for 13-14 year olds. They are the same age as the intended audience.
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>>286291757
Shut up Asuka nobody likes you.
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>>286332426
And MLP is also aimed at little girls.
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>>286332426
>same age as the intended audience
Very cute anon. And how old are you, pray tell?
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>>286291831
Is good but not as a mecha show.
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>>286332316
>would have called her a cougar when I first watched eva
>would now be called a predator dating outside of my age bracket
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>>286332469
Yeah because mechs are giant robots and not giant augmented humans.
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>>286291831
Why don't you watch it and find out for yourself?
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>>286332485
Why are Evas in Super Robot Wars?
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I watched both the original and the Rebuilds but have never engaged in any EVA threads here because they seem really gay and I have no horse in the race for best girl. Would it be worth it to try them out this time?
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>>286332520
No.
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>>286332511
Why is Devilman?
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>>286332520
I used to be a reinigga, now I'm an asukanigga. This is all you need to know about who is truly the best girl
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>>286332520
Have you seen this thread?
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>>286332511

Shinji got the approval of Koji, he is a mecha pilot.
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>>286332699
>Asuka SEETHING at the sight of Shinji being happy
What's wrong with her?
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>>286332772
She's not the one making him happy
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>>286332511
Why is godzilla?
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>>286332790
I don't think I've ever seen Asuka even trying to make Shinji happy or go out of her way for him. It's always "Me! Only Me! Did I forget to mention Me?".
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>>286332574
Yeah, I wanna hope there’s something better than this
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>>286332520
Misato is objectively the only true heroine of the initial story. The other sluts exist only to keep the constant cash flow.
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>>286332845
Not today, haemorreioid
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>>286332834
Because Gridman got into SRW 30, expect more Toku
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>>286332866
There isn't. It's just a bunch of crying fags shitting all over some director they have a parasocial hate relationship with and wanting to jerk each other off over their wrongly perceived interpretations and arguing which child character is hotter. It's pathetic.
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>>286332888
What? A fantasy? I'm talking about the original canon.
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>>286332900
You're one to talk. You're here too.
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>>286332485
Not that, is more characters talkimg that Eva fighting.
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>>286332900
If you don't like /a/ discussion why are you even here?
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>>286291400
You just know he's next in line to write a screenplay for eva after yokotaro
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>>286331843
I like the way you think.
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>>286332956
You mean the show is centered morr around the characters than the action? Yeah, that too.
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>>286332699
This too interacting is so fucking funny.
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>>286332699
Sayaka is so hot
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>>286332951
>>286332974
I was bored. I won't be here once the thread ends, don't you worry your seething little heads.
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>>286333098
Sure tranny. See you in the next Eva thread.
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>>286333111
WITNESSED
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>>286333111
Lmao keep telling yourself that.
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>>286292164
the mystique of the evas was done by episode 2 dude
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>>286291400
>expectations
>after the whole rebuilds debacle
yeah nah, IF it comes out and the general consensus is that it's at least great, i'll watch it
otherwise fuck off
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>>286302606
too bad
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>Nier Automata writing and music
Internet will need to come up with a new word to describe this because "peak" has been made meaningless by using it for every single mediocre slop ever made.
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>>286333907
"Garbage" seems pretty poignant.
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We hate sex here
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>>286334230
This. I only like masturbating over comatose teenage girls. S*x is for adult harlots like M*sato
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>>286303132
This. It sounds like a joke but it's literally true, every single bad take about a mecha series ALWAYS comes from women and low test men who are biologically repelled by the content. Those people will try and try their damn hardest to rationalize it, they come up with excuses, throw buzzwords around and attack those who watch it because they are deeply afraid of it, they're scared of big robots, they're scared of people who love big robots. Their hearts will never sing at the sight of the embodiment of might itself crush everything that stands in it's way.
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>>286319579
>>286319682
WE MUST BE BETTERMAN
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>>286329221
Why do you think the short has Asuka (the only character who can't move on) as the focus?
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>waifushits think this is going to be about them
It's about Shinji and Kaworu, the trailer gave it away.
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>>286332996
GOTTEM
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>>286332996
Tags:
>femdom
>breath control
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>>286327780
I have female protagonist fatigue.
Stop making women go through stories only men would, all it does is invite disgusting and obnoxious fans.
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>>286328855
SEELE's version of ''gnosis'' is false. It does not change the fact that evangelion is anti-gnostic pro-hylic trash
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>>286335699
So what's Evangelion's version of dead sea scrolls?
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>>286335699
Anno or Takahashi? Who explored religious themes better?
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Should it be a timeloop bridging EoE and the rebuilds (almost like anima is in theory), or a totally original concept that only reuses the branding and themes

The strange design for the trailer eva makes me think it will be the latter
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>>286328193
>You want [KINO OF THE HIGHEST ORDER]?
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>>286332699
Koji is such boomer
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>>286335699
knowledge is not inherently good tho.
It can be used for evil, as selee wanted to do.
Frankly it's a miracle they didn't cause more suffering with their increadebly suicidal ideas.
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>>286335887
They are still FAR more benevolent than our elites, especially in original series
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>>286335887
''Gnosis'' is not always equal to just knowledge in some gnostic systems, sometimes it's also some sort of inner revelation. There were many ''gnostic'' sects and religions of old, some are ''alive'' even today, Mandaeism for example
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>>286303132
>>286334496
I really only like Gurren Lagann (Evangelion is not a mecha show it's a tokusatsu) but this is true. I think Gundam is too slow paced.
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>>286335928
So what was their original idea? They didn't seem that mad when Rei came for each of them. I guess they wanted to be in control of the process like Gendo.
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I trust Taro and Okabe, however Tsurumaki is a fucking hack. GQX sucked massive STD infested balls
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>>286336037
In the original series and EOE they wanted to coagulate all of humanity into a god in EVA-01. In PS2 game they wanted to do the same BUT only for themselves and to just kill everyone else. Maybe. Maybe the latter was their plan in original series too, some argue that PS2 game is canon
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>>286336037
Yeah part of eva is nerv and selee fighting for control over the process.
The irony is neither of them end up controlling it.
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I get this is (probably) going to feature mostly new characters with moonman writing and his music man composing which will be enjoyable and I'm excited to see what this is.

On the other hand after that closing scene + one last kiss playing, I was good to never watch anything eva ever again.
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>>286329654
That sounds so badass.
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>>286329654
Honestly im all for taro doing something post eoe, it's untapped potential and it would be distinct from rebuilds which are still similar enough to main timeline.
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>>286328883
What a crock of ''self-help'' superficial garbage from a woman
>Those with the strongest egos are the first to return from the LCL ocean
>Sociopathic narcissists and other ''wonderful'' people such as Judge Holden (avatar of The Demiurge), Hitler, Caligula, Gacy, Marquis de Sade and others reform
>They proceed to rape, torture, skullfuck Shinji and Asuka, then they make fucktoys from their mangled skinned and eviscerated corpses
>All of Earth is just a sadomasochistic orgy of edgelords raping and torturing each other and normal people who dared to reform
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>>286336517
Not to mention it's a way for there to be less og characters, due to the circumstances and focus on a mix of old ones like shinji or asuka and maybe new ones.
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I wonder if the public reception to evangelion getting new writers also happened for IPs like Gundam and Fate, I assume not because there was still tons of original stuff coming out back then and people weren't as cynical and psyopped.
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>>286336604
>a bunch of mentally ill demons fighting with giant biomechas to see who gets to rule this abandoned world
Sounds fucking awesome. Would Taro write that? Or is it more to Urobuchi's taste? maybe Ittetsu?
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>>286331574
The end of the series is EoE.
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>>286330195
Gendo in EoTV is Shinji’s conception of Gendo.
Anno called them different because the are literally different, but they do depict the same canon.
Even if you don’t believe this is the case, the two match up perfectly in philosophy.
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If nothing else, we will be getting a lot of new porn out of this.
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>>286337235
>>286330195
It would be cooler if those endings are NOT the same. Original ending seems more mysterious
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>>286337299
It doesn’t make either ending better if they are separate.
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>>286336125
It’s not, only the data files.
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>>286335699
Gnosticism is just contrarian heresy.
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>>286337142
Clearly it isn't sweetie. Cope.
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>>286337636
Yep it is. Cope.
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>>286337292
>Asuka is introduced swearing like a sailor the way Kainé does
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>>286337714
>alternate timeline that's actually canon
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>>286337429
There were many various sects of gnostic thought. Some gnostics were not even ''heretics'', for example Clement of Alexandria is known to be a ''Christian'' gnostic. Anyway, it's considered that in the first century of Christianity the canon wasn't as ''stable'' as it is now. There were non-heretical Christians who argued for docetism (and some gnostics who opposed that position). The concept of a stable Christian canon developed fully after the first gnostic sects were formed
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>>286338412
I should go watch Shin Getter instead of hanging out here lol
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>>286338335
Tbf, all timelines are canon within their own continuity
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>>286338916
Cope.



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