It's that time of the month again. I can't wait.
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>>286574718The name of the chapter is extremely cute.
>>286574740I can't help but see Scarlet Aeonia
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>>286574756Why does the meteor look like a sunflower seed? Or any seed, really?Just more plant imagery? Did the other meteors look like that too?
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>>286574797>>286574794They seem to make a seed/blossom effect before they explode.
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>>286574822Zoe continues being really unwell...
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>>286574812>They seem to make a seed/blossom effect before they explode.Totally not suspicious. lol
>>286574880I guess we now know how his powers work. I wonder why she didn't give him all the powers.
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>>286575039These fucking retarded ayylmaos can't follow simple instructions.
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>>286575039>>286575056>>286575068>>286575081Oooooh, spoopy. Okay then, so thats why the meteor was seed shaped. Damned thing is there to literally seed more Druids.Also, you gotta laugh at this dumb idiot going "our superweapon that is key to summoning us all here is feeling down? LETS SHATTER HER FAITH AND REVEAL THAT WE ARE ALIEN ABOMINATIONS HERE TO SWALLOW UP THE PLANET" That is just fucking amazing. LmaoReally hits home how alien the Empress is, and her complete inability to relate even a little bit to humans.
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>>286575138>>28657512I wonder if she is the Original Ramus or why she is seemingly a Druid that can interact like that. Makes sense now why we were told "the Empire is inextricably linked to the Druids". I really want to know what happened with the other factions in the future.
>>286575158Oops I deleted the last digit.
TDD. Fucking Xeno scum
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>>286575081Aw shit
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>>286574797I do not use this word often, but: based.
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>>286575158>I really want to know what happened with the other factions in the future.They have to have "won", right? Or gotten close to it. Defeated the Druid faction, maybe killed the Garland of that time. Which is why the war got sent back in time. Its a reset, because the present day attempt was a failure.Thats probably why the Pontiff is so on point with dealing with the Druid seeds from the meteors. Its all been done before.I figure the Pontiff's plan is to defeat the Empress druid here in the past, and then set up a warning system for when she enters the planet in the future. And obliterate her ass before she can start anything. Nix it in the bud, before it can grow.
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Tentative critical support for Kayano-chan and her army of samebros
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>>286575039WHATTHE FUCKFUCK
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>>286575357>mommy and daddy are fightinglol
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>>286575410Man that's kind of a shit power, Demi blows him out of the water as a scout
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>>286575437I think it has insane synergy with strong Rami like Akira.
>>286575462Akira is not a Ramus but you get what I meant. It's 3 am sorry...>The little tugboatI can't believe I ended up liking Kayano so much.
>>286575434As a scout, sure. But teleswapping like that is incredible for stirring up trouble.Think about planning assassinations and shit. Getting a traitor on your side, then teleswapping with them at the right moment, striking, then teleswapping back out. And bringing others with you is crazy when you can pippoint deploy powerhouse assets in strategic strikes and then retreat on a dime.>>286575437Hibiki is going to fuck this all up. This dude is going to make a power play in the squirmish and really cause a mess.I cannot wait.
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>>286575491>>286575490Mira (the teleporter) also seems to have some doubts since we saw in the first pages that he saw Kayano leave and he said nothing. It's going to turn into such a mess.
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None of them cares the mommyfag died...
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>>286575517Yeah, the whole "not a god" and "Druid invasion" thing really seems to have shaken Mira.Its neat how as we seem to be reaching the climax, we have players on both sides getting sick of this shit. Kayano and Mira had their fath shattered. Kayano straight up trying to run, and the clones came with her. Oscar and Zahid bounced from the war. Zoe is having a meltdown, and mirroring Kayano in being unable to continue with this mess.
>>286575551Kayano...
>>286575158cute horrible alien skinwalker monster
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>>286574957>>286575039>>286575158>>286575357kek
>>286575628Oh no
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>>286575642DamnI kinda thought she'd last a couple more chapters at least
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>>286575665Huh okay he can teleport other people too
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>>286575740OOOHHHHHHHH I LOVE PARALLELS
>>286575732He's done that before. Remember how Akira and Kayano escaped Mont Tombe?
Man, this chapter is dope as fuck. I really cannot wait to see this mess shake out.
I'm thinking 2 more chapters until the series ends
>>286575845You're nuts. This scene might take two whole chapters. There's no way the futurist and druid mess will be resolved that quickly.
I'll bet this Hibiki fella comes looking for Zoe and makes the decision for her. Though, assuming he can hold a candle to her, it's currently two powerhouses to one. Unless the Pope secretly has hidden superpowers like Akira, this could go very poorly for our heroes.
>>286575758I don't know how Coura is going to survive this battle. Lucas fled so it's just the Pontiff, Demi and Coura and regular soldiers vs more soldiers, Hibiki and Akira. If Akira doesn't desert and engage Hibiki instantly they're fucked.
>>286575925It's pretty crazy how quickly the tides keep turning one way or another
>>286575918Akira is going to agree with Kayano and try to parlay with the Pope, leading to the Emperor stripping his powers and possibly outright killing him.
>>286576057The 3 forces here are actually getting completely fucked up and I love that we're heading towards the final battle with every side diminished and on their last legs rather than in some epic, flashy confrontation like the Looking Glass fight.>Papal forcesEngaged with 2 top tier combatants and soldiers without Lucas and Zoe, all they have are regular troops.>Kayano's sideThey depend on Akira taking her side, which he clearly will, but now we know that the Empire can pull the plug on his powers so he's done the moment the Empire finds out he deserted>EmpireLost the Facsimiles, Kayano and potentially Akira and Mira in one fell swoop, the only loyal person in this battle is Hibiki who clearly wants to make a name for himself so he's not gonna simply go away.
>>286576091Which means the secret true final boss is Mora, probably also using a Poppy enhanced bow.
>>286575098love me pope
>>286575613Lucas grown a lot
>>286575688I suppose pope godda do something now
>>286576276Time for Gat-kun to make another appearance.
>>286576276>>286576283More realistically he probably stocked up on rami power tools before the invasion of the empire
Ahhhhhh im druiding
>>286575576Really like the way Kayano and the Facsimiles are contrasted with Lucas and the Star Expedition Corp, especially with how the Facsimiles show more independent thought and individuality compared to Lucas's army>>286576317Does he even have access to those tools if he's cut off from his tower?
>>286576317Gat-kuns with Rami powers.
>>286576340He had two months before the invasion of the empire, it would surprise me if he didn't have at least some stashed outside the capital. We know the papal futurists can't or won't disempower his tools since the mirror still worked.
>>286576276>>286576317What if the recovered Druid seeds from the meteors haven't just been killed. Maybe its being put together into a Druid bomb or something. Something that cuts off the Druid energy, and leaves everyone unable to access it for rami powers. World is back to just normies.
>>286574866The Pope is really just like how Akira and that other woman is to the garland. There's some obvious parallel between The Garland and Lucas but there may be an even bigger one between her and Zoe.
>>286575437Papa's totally listening to recordings of his actual wife's voice in that walkman thing.
>>286576856I figured that device was the Time Weaver. Hibiki asked for if they get into combat. I was thinking that was Akira taking it out ot pass on to Hibiki.
>>286576856Good point, it definitely has some sort of meaning to him since he always keeps it around
I hope Cross, if no one else, lives
>>286576906Anon, Time Weaver refers to Zoe. Are you a retard?
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Huh I found myself fearing for for facsimile bros and Kayano more than Lucas and co
>>286575158look how fucking cute she is wheeling away thinking she solved the problemgod damn that's funny
>>286575476>I can't believe I ended up liking Kayano so muchHappens with a lot of the characters in this manga>>286576396Good point yeah, especially considering the Pope's apparent TFD agenda
Impregnating zoe while she sleeps....
>>286575642Oh no, Zoe....>>286575678And such terrible timing
kinda sad that bringing all the facsimiles mostly just made her easier to find
>>286575410>>286575665Wait, how does this work at all? If his power is only to swap places with people who have drunk his blood, how come he can brings two people with him? And how do they know which facsimiles to switch with to be on precisely the right horses?
>>286577372He seems to be able to control the position of those that have drunk his blood (and himself) by being able to swap them around.
>>286577372>A B C>X Y ZA swaps with X, then swaps with B, then swaps with Y, then swaps with C, then swaps with Z, resulting in>X Y Z>B C AHe just has to do it all really fast so it looks like he's swapped them all at once
Yeah fuck it I'm a Kayano fan now
Next month can't come soon enough, I am really curious how this mess is going to resolve.
>>286577310>Impregnating Coura next to the sleeping ZoeFixed
We must kill ALL the futurists and ALL the druids, Luca
>>286577477>Impregnate Coura>she transfers the fertilized ovum to sleeping Zoe>do it again every night
>>286575549Y/u/rigods are oppressed.
>>286574756I'm sure there's nothing else in the manga with clear Elden Ring inspirationsFuck, bros, I love the Mirror Ramus arc so much. I think I might have actually read chapter 13 10 separate times. It's my favourite fight in any manga and it hurts knowing I won't find anything betterAlso, rip Kayano. I don't know how they're going to torture you but I'm not looking forwards to the result
>>286577655Also this >>286575398>Also, rip Kayano. I don't know how they're going to torture you but I'm not looking forwards to the resultShe's gonna get a happy ending. I believe.
>>286577655>Mirror Ramusyeah clearly inspired by Malenia, i love her so much
>>286575158Fuckin hot wheels lmao
>>286574922>>286574957>>286574987>>286575010>>286575029>>286575056>>286575158My retarded alien hivemind can't possibly be this cute!
>>286577730Truly half a vegetable
>>286575758I won't be surprised if some of the empire guys uses a bow than can throw homing arrowsThey keep talking about the intel Poppy gave them, but we have no confirmation they actually kept her alive after that.
>>286574797BASED
>>286574756so why did he withhold this information yet help the crew search for Kayano in the end?
>>286574797I want to make Demi come and piss in my mouth
What's this manga about? The contrast between the description and covert art, versus what I'm saying in the thread is pretty big.
>>286578434Well the starting premise is mass medieval warfare but what if there were individuals with weird powers.The current premise is a time war to prevent an alien hive mind from overtaking the earth. In spite of that it's much better than it sounds.Thematically it's about individuality and the dehumanising nature of war.And in reality it's about how mentally ill older women cannot help but groom a teenage bishounen.10/10. Actual best manga.
>>286575039FUCK DRUIDS KILL THEM
>>286578375Because he empathizes with Kayano and wants nothing to do with the Empire either but he doesn't have the willpower to desert. Think about it, he doesn't have much choice. So he tried to help her with his inaction but when they tell him to go search for her he can't just say no and get killed.
>>286578434It's a character driven dark fantasy / cosmic horror sci fi blend. The manga changes a lot as it goes on. It's much better than it seems at first.
I'm worried for Zoe, guys. Tell me she'll be ok.What if Lucas mind controls her? Oh god...
>>286575098Wait so is she called the Garland because she's like the welcome wreath hung on doors for Christmas
>>286576462>Flashback to the Pope with the seeds
>>286575642>>286575724Is this the author saying he doesn't want to write Bugle Call anymore?
>>286575758oh shit did an anon start helping out with the TL
>>286579196Yes, it's not MTL anymore.
>>286575703I think Akira loves his daughter
>>286579326>Yes, it's not MTL anymore.But what if I'm a super advanced robot from the future?
>>286579493It is a druid!
>>286579536I'ma coming for ya
does anyone want to actually fight in this manga? Aside from the druids and time travellers I guess
>>286574797Love Demi. It's that simple.
>>286579645Karl (magnet Ramus, dead), current Lucas and his fanatical soldiers, Hibiki. Did I miss anyone?
>>286579737I think all of them want fight for their friends
>>286575081I am reminded of that one scene early on where the pope, Zahid and Oscar went to an impact site and the pope retrieved *something* from the bottom of the crater
>>286579737Udo pre-his humiliating loss to the mirror ramus
>>286578204I never really noticed how glassy her eyes areYou have to wonder why Akira is even participating in this farce, he's obviously a wife guy with a dead wife but she is so utterly alien and forward with her "we want to own/kill you" agenda it's insane that he's going along with it
>>286575665>>286577425Would be neat if we got a page like this instead
>>286577372Presumably, just like Udo could sense blood that's compatible with his, this guy can just sense anyone who he could switch with. To what extent, who knows, maybe he has to focus to know their exact location. Alien magic.
>>286575613cuuute
>>286580815>>286575613>Zoe, do you remember that loli? Um, send her to the shadow realm so she can keep the naughty potatoes company.
>>286575845Nah I think it will be 10 chapters.No way the druids dont have a card up their sleeve. We also might see Akira going full retard if Garland dies here and he escapes to the capital. There was that talk about him using the tower's power. Either he will use it for the final battle or he dies and the Druids use it on someone else. So there will be a whole new final battle arc after the set up being made in this battle. Heck, we might have yet another arc with the Pope in his previous bosses as we don't know what he/they did with the seeds
>>286574838>pomfAlways makes me think of this one
>>286577655Man I hate thisisaneldenringreferencefags. Now fucking flowers are Elden Ring reference. We can't have medieval fantasy without they saying everything is Elden Ring reference. Obnoxious faggots>>286579645That was kinda of the point of almost every arc and the whole reason Lucas and the Pope are doing a fucking crusade right now.
>>286581043Considering no plot twists, the minimum amount of plotlines left would be:>This battle being resolved, taking Akira and Kayano out of the picture.>A second battle against the Emperor and Mora.>Lucas going TFD. There's still the rogue Futurists of the Papal States and whatnot, no idea if that'd take a full arc but it still needs addressing.>EpilogueThrough this we need to get the Pontiff's backstory and the resolution to Demi and Coura's character arcs. There's definitely going to be an arc after the fight with the Empire to wrap things up. This is just the "final battle" because the Empire / Druids are the main antagonists that we have been fighting from the start.
>>286575039>>286575056>>286575081TOTAL ALIEN DEATH
>>286581165>Man I hate thisisaneldenringreferencefags. Now fucking flowers are Elden Ring reference. We can't have medieval fantasy without they saying everything is Elden Ring reference. Obnoxious faggotsAnon the authors made it pretty obvious as well as some other references like X men, John Wick, Suicide Squad, Game of Thrones, that one Japanese song, etc.
I just hope they stay grounded with the finale and don't do the bullshit scale last boss out of the ass like a lot of manga do
>>286581394it will i gurantee it anon the author is setting up so he can make his goddamn sci-fi manga next
i hope this ends badly for everyone involvedexcept for lucas, zoe and demi
>>286574797Demi really is best girl. How the hell can Coura or Zoe fags even compete?
>>286581479bu smiling occasionally
>>286581180Did Lucas already kill the rogue futurists? At least the village? I guess deleting their consciouness will take a panel or two. But yeah, this arc and at least final battle and epilogue which might be yet another final battle. I was going for the bare minimun of 10 chapters but 15~20 is more likely, depending on how the author feels about it.
>>286581479There's no competition, she's not in the Lucabowl. We all know she's best girl, we're fighting over 2nd place.
>>286581519Coura smiles for many other boys, but Demi only smiles for you.
>>286581534The main Futurists are in the Towers and there's also other villages hidden around. That one village wasn't very important at all and not the "higher ups" of the Papal States.
>>286574838Some futurist should have published a book on good managerial practices so that no one would do what these dumbasses did to Zoe.
i think the pope is in th+e side of the druids
>>286581479Coura is like the only yandere/menhera style character I've seen that gets close to the MC without getting fixed and watered down. She is a very messed up girl that everyone hates because of how fucked up she is but if you get close to her like Lucas did she'll love you unconditionally. What's there not to like? I accept Demi as a valid choice though, I just love mentally ill girls and I empathize too much with Coura.She's also the best choice for Lucas, they flat out have the best chemistry, Zoe is imouto material. Coura and Lucas ending up together would be the most massive upset in a love interest route I've ever seen. Though I am afraid it won't happen, she's too much of an underdog in the Lucasbowl.
>>286574957>please don't talk to her, you're crazy>>286575056>>286575068>>286575081>>286575115>says the most insane shit everThis manga can be super funny.
>>286581694Nah our beloved Middle Manager planned for this and is crashing the entire Futurist side and the Druids with no survivors. At some point Mora mentioned he's the one Futurist left with ambition. He's actually burning with desire for TFD and groomed Lucas into the role.
>>286581562>Demi only smiles for you.I'm not and never will be Miura.
I'm not surprised the alien empress is a complete autist. I'm surprised that the alien autist empress led side has been winning the war so far.
>>286581942probably because of garland
>>286582015garland is a child and the war has been going on for what, a century
>>286582054my bad i switched i meant to say akira
>>286582124oh, right, should have figuredakira does his share of turdwrangling on every front
>>286581942They clearly have more Branch-based "tech" than the other factions. They have Druid Trees as communication devices (including that portable medallion version), they can brainwash people, they have Akira who seems to be a Futurist-style tree body with a direct link to the Tower to download absurd future sight hacks and a host of other powers, etc.
>>286575642I bet she can get even more broken.
>>286579084What? NoThey've been building to Zoe freaking out like this for like half the manga
Relying on little girls to do all your mass murder has finally started to backfire.
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>>286575357Makes sense that a totally unified hivemind would have trouble understanding deception.
>>286579645Moro's gonna fuck shit up, you can trust in that
>>286581942With their ability to drop a nuke once a month, limitless supply of loyal soldiers, and guy with superpowers who can see the future, I'm surprised they haven't already won. Like, I'm not saying I'm some strategic genius, but you give me that setup in a Total War game, and I clear the map in record time.
>>286585089If Akira downloads his hacks directly from the Tower I wonder if overusing him would make it wilt faster.
Man the Facsimiles are so cute together with Kayano. I hope they have a happy ending. FUCK TREES
>>286585089I forgot to add that they need a Sapling Candidate to keep the Tower going as well. This means that if they only have one super powerful Ramus they need to play it conservatively because if they lose him it's over. The Empire has been winning pretty badly now that they got all of these assets but if you think about it the Sapling Candidates make it really hard to truly risk things in war. This could easily explain why the factions have been at standstill for so long before the series. Like sure you have one OP Ramus, but the enemy has one too, do you really risk the entire faction by entering a war that will make them fight? You're better off nation building and waiting for a better moment and you have 1000+ years to go.
>>286575056>>286575138>>286575158>Your God Empress just casually drops a lore bomb that subverts your faction's entire existence What do?
>>286585539Harbor doubts and see how things play out for a bit. Choose the winning side or flee far away if at all possible.
Demi a bitch
Here's a random thought - Akira keeps trying to mindbreak Kayano into enjoying mass slaughter cause he's seen the future where she doesn't and it ends worse for her.>>286577684I think the pattern with this manga is everyone who manages to walk away from this fight are the ones who survive, something that really stuck with me is picrel from last chapter where Oscar and Zahid walk away from the swords they were messing with right before those swords get obliterated by Kayano. You also have Udo who dropped every death flag imaginable before fucking off to be with his family. On the other side there's Karl the gloryhound getting murked by random soldiers and Miura finally getting the resolve to fight right before Poppy happens.
>>286585520I'm not saying it's actually this simple, but I think Akira beats Zoe on most days. All you really gotta do is isolate her and give him like, any amount of support to guarantee it. Carl had the right of it. Regular soldiers basically only exist to control territory. If you take out your opponents heavy hitters, you can just mop up the rest of them, toss Luca in a sack and call it a day.
>>286579862His wife is probably in the druid fold already. He has to work to get accepted in too even if he would prefer life outside it.
>>286582054Over a millennia actually (they teleported to year 0). The issue was apparently the technology to even create futuristic technology is too limited (they don't have mass mining etc) and they also needed to subjugate people in the present and defend against other towers preventing them from teching up (and although other towers want to avoid changing history, seeing as the Empire literally has speakers the technological pace doesn't make sense). Honestly there's no good reason for the world to not be far more advanced by now.
>>286586366The speakers are likely magic like the entire village of the Futurists.
>>286585539>Oh yeah, our religion? It's all hogwash that's useful to manipulate people.Akira shouldn't even let her leave the room.
>>286586409Wasn't there a chapter where they were literally talking about using radios? Also if it were really magic the wouldn't need to use human technology forms.
>>286586804Im pretty sure the magic is replicating the technology, though I don't remember the exact wording.
>>286575081Oh snap. I spotted signs of this because of the daily. But I guessed Kayano was hijacking druid ships. Not this colonization thing.
>>286578623Also at that point it became obvious Kayano was in imminent danger of attack from the Pope's forces.
>>286586094This manga's a work of art, man.
>>286574822Cute loli Zoe
>>286581394Lucas is going to realize that the violent path he has chosen will not resolve anything, then he will use his doot directly on the druids to make them understand how great music is. It will be just like SDF Macross.
>>286577655ENTER
Kathryn was so fucking cute
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>>286588677I like the way this artist draws eyes
>>286575115This makes me wonder, were futurists even real? Or are they also just tree aliens?Was there ever time travel or were the tree people just making shit up? Or are they just somehow seeing humanitys future through our own genes/consciousnesses?If so, then is the Pope just fooling our guys too and just playing them like a fiddle?
>>286588677sex with this alien monstrosity
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>>286578271oh she is definitively alive, so Lucas could stick a saxophone in her chest or something like that.
The Papal States?DefeatedEarth?ColonizedDaughter?MotivatedMy work here is done!
>>286575138A fine motivational speech. Let me update the scoreboard:Pope 0Akira 0Druid -1
>>286589419>vroom vroomshe really didn't need to vocalize
>>286575740These two 9 year olds have had it rough
>>286576341If he had Mirua's speed, would he be able to have the coordination to shoot people?
>>286581394One possible ending could be a team up between Lucas and Kayano. Kayano uses her flowered power to bring ALL the druids to a single location where then Lucas mind controls them and makes them kill themselves.
Will Zoe reverse flower?
>>286575491What happened to the whole plot point about rami not being able to leave the diocese because they need energy from the tree to survive?
>>286591046There are lots of towers and they cover wide radiuses, lots of room to settle down in obscurity
>>286591046They can survive in other diocese so long as there's a nearby tower and they don't die immediately. So long as kayano stayed somewhere in europe, she'd be fine
>>286591046Kayano was never told
>>286591046Probably moving within range
>>286585539Was reading the daily and noticed on this page that Mira appears to be praying before the meal whereas the others just start eating. Perhaps he takes oakism particularly seriously, might explain why the Empress's reveal seems to have such an effect on him.
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>>286575918now is the time for the pope do someting
>>286589419she's so proud of herself
I think it's the druid wife who killed MiuraShe wears gloves because she kills with her touch or something
>>286577655>all valkyrie armors now now LE EPIC ELDEN RANG REFERENCEhow underage can you be? seriously?
>Mira doesn't snitch on Kayano and the facsimiles escaping while Demi refuses to tell the Pope where Oscar and Zahid are>The Emperor fails to motivate Kayano while the Pope fails to motivate Zoe>Akira now has to convince Kayano to rejoin the fight while Lucas has to do the same with Zoe
>>286581259Don't forget the Shawshank Redemption reference.>shawshit redemption lol
>>286575703great page
>>286589029kek
>>286575081This explains why Pontiff was wanting to check out the craters earlier on.
>>286575081Souboutei Must Be Destroyed all over again. These interstellar hiveminds really need to knock it off.
>>286586094I never thought Oscar would leave voluntarily. Now only Demi is the last hardcore papal loyalist left.
>>286589419You know she might actually be too retarded to walk given just how fucking stupid she was here.
Great panel
Total Cora Love
>>286595215How wet did she get when he said that?
>Cora touches Zoe>"You are not a virgin anymore"
How fucked are they if Zoe refuses to fight
>>286595642Akira's there, and we don't know what this Hibiki dude is capable of. Not to mention the possibility of more Ramus reinforcements through the teleport guy. Honestly, they're in a rough spot even with Zoe.
>>286595638She stole her hymen?!
>>286590194Aren't their powers bloom at 14?
>>286575703I fucking love struggling dads in media.
>>286574812The Garland has just reminded me of what fighting Sturm is like
I would kill every Rami, Futurist, and Druid a hundred times over if it meant the facsimiles could live in peace
>>286585520>they need a Sapling Candidate to keep the Tower goingCome to think of it, doesn't losing Kayano basically mean the Empire is screwed now?
>>286576462>Popes hat is so big because that's where he keeps his stash of space seeds.
>>286598163The Empire is not so screwed, since they still have combat Rami. If they can take out Lucas, they probably have even odds on dealing with the Papal army. Better odds, really, with Zoe having a meltdown, no Oscar, no Zahid.Its the Empress-Druid who is screwed if they lose Kayano, because she is needed to bring more and more Druids to the planet.
>>286590571The druids all have a single shared consciousness, he only needs to doot one of them to doot them all
>>286598224I mean without Kayano the Empire has no sapling candidate to take over as the core of the tower so their tower will eventually die and then it's game over for them regardless of what happens with the Papal States
>>286598330Lucas and Zoe are right there. Zoe more likely. Just capture her and shove in the tower.
>>286598330Thats true. I'm guessing the idea is to grab Zoe for that, though. Thats why Hibiki asked for Zoe to be left to him. He's an ambitious guy, and wants the good graces and bonus points that comes with capturing her for the Tower.
>>286575081Fucking ayys, man.
>>286575158Can't tell if this is autism.
>>286579862Lucas has the same glassy look to his eyes in a lot of panels
>>286575158>I really want to know what happened with the other factions in the future.We already got told that during the Popes big exposition dump. Name that there is no "future". Activating the Towers was a form of MAD that caused the future and everyone in it to cease to exist. The only survivors were powerful and well connected people who had their consciousness uploaded into their countries respective towers. At first the different towers fought each other so their "country" could take over in the past (in actuality now just the present) and try and make history unfold in the way they want it to. Think like the tower built by the French government wanted to make history go in a more pro-france direction this time for instance. Over the course of the manga we've seen that play out, with both the Papal States and Empire conquering various other towers. The only real mystery is which powers originally owned the Papal State and Empire Towers, since we know the places they landed in the past are not their nations of origin. I'd bet money one of them is Japans, for no other reason than of course the Japanese tower would be important in a Japanese manga (plus it would explain how Japanese names wound up in Medieval Europe). Of course whatever nation created the Empires tower has been fully subverted by Druidmommy, and the Pope has basically gone rogue and is betraying his country for the greater good.
>>286592829Good eye.
>>286595195I love that Lucas played into it and didn't reject her.
>>286598698The Japanese are unironically the villains here. Most people in the Empire territories have Japanese names for no reason (Miura, Akira, Kayano, Hibiki, etc) and the "Emperor" is using a specific word reserved only for the Japanese Emperor, Mikado (in the official TL they will leave it as "Mikado" instead of calling her Emperor). The Empire is the Japanese Empire.
>>286597580That's a fond reference I didn't expect. Wasn't Sturm an alien also?Also as brutal as the Pope is, it really makes sense when you realize he's trying to defend the world against an alien invasion. There's few costs too great when you world will literally be overtaken by aliens if you fail.
>>286592548T-that one doesn't count Anon don't shatter my worldview please. Coura WILL win.
>>286595257>Spends her life being hated for being too menhera>Her crush goes "In the end I'm just like you!"Pure bliss
Given a ramus is the offspring of a druid and a human, doesn't that mean it's possible that Kayano is actually Akira and the Emperor's daughter and that Akira was pregnant with Kayano?
>>286598163Yes, they are fucked unless they can capture Lucas or Zoe. I really wanna see what happens in the next chapter, so many places it can go.
>>286578375Also remember he literally heard the speech here >>286575056 and >>286575138, I don't doubt he would defect to the Papal states if he could. That's not the face of a man with conviction.
>>286598267But there were druids in the futurist town and even in the town they captured just before.
>>286599168Why are rami found scattered in random places and not raised in special places then? I can believe a druid impregnated their parents, but it doesn't make sense to let them leave with the baby ramus to be raised outside the towers' control.
>>286599225So far he has only been able to passively combat the Druid's psychological attack with his power. The plan is DOOTing the human Futurists (and maybe the Emperor?) to steal the Administrative Rights to the Tower. Maybe he needs a more human mind to work with.
>>286599168I think it's a more likely twist that the Emperor is literally Luca's mother... or, father, I guess.
>>286597075These 9yo are 14 out of 10, yes!
>>286599279>So far he has only been able to passively combat the Druid's psychological attack with his power. I forget, what happened to the Druid that was trying to take over Lucas? It seemed like he was being mindfucked by it, and then he woke up, they run away, and they come back to burn the village down. And I can't remember if the Druid in Lucas got expelled or defeated or what.Like, is it still in him, biding its time?
>>286599168Druids probably don't need to actually fuck a woman to impregnate one, much more likely they just do some spirit shit and convert a random already existing fetus into a ramus, especially since most of them seem to come from random places it must not be an organized process and the druids seem to be big fans of organization so if it was as straightforward as normal breeding they'd probably have that shit locked downKayano might be different since the empress seems to be a special case though
>>286599401The process was stopped when Miura took him away. He'd have gotten pregnant if he stayed in the chair.
>>286599401Part of me has always wondered if it influenced him towards his current vengeful personality. Intentionally, I mean. When Miura was pulling him out, the futurist chief was saying, "you wont like what comes next." Somewhere deep in the author's sleeve is the possibility that somehow, Luca is playing straight into the druids' hands this would time.
>>286599303>impregnates someone while wearing another woman's face>kid comes out looking like the woman you're impersonatingtypical cosmic horror shenanigans
>>286599441Ahh, gotcha. I guess I thought it had been paused, instead of stopped. So maybe the Druid was just waiting for it to start up again.>>286599565Thats part of why I thought the Druid might be in Lucas still. That whole experience seems to have caused a marked shift in his personality.
>>286599415>>286599303I was more speculating about Akira mpreg like what almost happened to Lucas but him being a weird futurist tree golem might make that a little more complicated>>286599247That's a good question honestly, there's a lot going on with this whole druid colonization business that we don't really get yet
>>286599565>When Miura was pulling him out, the futurist chief was saying, "you wont like what comes next."I thought it was the chief hinting that Miura will get poisoned and die soon if he took Luca and left. If they'd stayed in the village the coup d'état wouldn't have happened.
>>286599590If you think about it it works extremely similar to the re-education, it seemed to need the whole ritual, the chair, etc. The re-education also stopped when the girl was removed from the chair. I personally think Lucas became like this because he was being sexually assaulted by a cosmic horror entity.
>>286599617Could be. He could have also been talking about the Star Expedition Corps getting attacked. I wonder how much access to future predictions he had. He seemed rather surprised when his home was burned down.
>>286599590>That whole experience seems to have caused a marked shift in his personality.Getting molested has been said to do that to people.
>>286599670>He seemed rather surprised when his home was burned down.Remember that's what changed the prediction which caused the coup.
>>286599247Maybe they're not literal druid/human hybrids. But rather druidic energy merging with humans?Like, the Towers emit energy, right? Thats why there is a range that determines the territory around a Tower. And why Rami powers only work with a Tower's territory/range.So maybe its that energy a Tower emits that causes rami to be born. It emits druidic energy, and every now and then, that energy mingles with a woman, and her baby born is born as a Rami.Thats why Rami births are scattered around in a Tower's territory. Its not Druids going around spirit-banging women. But just random "mutations" caused by the druidic energy emitted by the Tower.
>>286599662>>286599683Honestly. Fair points. It was a pretty rough experience, yeah.
>>286599123>Wasn't Sturm an alien also?I don't think it was ever expanded upon what Sturm is, unless it was referenced in the 2nd game
>>286575703This panel looks way too familiar... I swear I've seen it several times before. Is this a meme like the Akira slide or Gundam beam saber?
>>286597075Kayano seems to be an exception. Probably why her power is so specific and Druid-centric too.
>>286597075>>286600999There seem to be a couple of exceptions. Zoe also must have bloomed early otherwise she wouldn't be mentally 9, but mentally 14.
It's suddenly hit me that without Zoe the Papal forces don't have a combat Rami. They really are fucked if Lucas can't convince Zoe to fight, one of the Empire guys switches sides or Pope has a secret weapon up his sleeve.
>>286575758Thank you for posting.
damn that was a good chapter
>>286599083So Japan was the dipshit nation that kickstarted this whole thing because they sent the first tower?
So the rami's powers are the result of a mutation, right? From how the druid lady acts, she doesn't seem to understand complex emotions and how human feels, just simple desires. Introduce human's emotions to the druid's physiology and presto, rami powers. I thought it's weird why the ayys didn't simply bring in a bunch of other ayys with superpowers to invade. But then what the fuck is up with the futurists? Are the druids just simply riding along the futurists' war to claim humanity while the futurists are using the rami's mutated ability? This is some bullshit.
>>286602605All Rami are physically enhanced, but yeah they don't have anyone to deal with Akira, or maybe even Hibiki depending on what he can do.
I rabu Cora
>>286603489Futurist are bored out of their mind 1%er who became immortal and got bored with that too. The druids subverted them with the promise of hive-mind fuckery.
>>286603220Yeah and the one compromised by Druids
Thank you to the Anon that posted the Fire Sign song. I remember we had no idea what the title of the chapter was referencing. Turns out the same band has a tribute song to Rei Ayanami too, absolutely based.
Total Futurist DeathTotal Druid DeathTotal Zoe HeadpatsTotal Poppy Employment
>>286581394We are obviously fighting a giant tree monster at the end.
>>286581942>>286585089Really its just down to a roll of the Rami Gacha. Someone like The Mirror or Heavenfall could single-handedly change the balance of power for their lifetimes (as both did), so you're really relying on a lot of luck to be able to make an invasion and not run into the Rami that can turn your army's insides into your army's outsides. Like if this manga was set 20 years earlier when Mirror and Heavenfall were in better shape, the story would be very different because it wouldn't have just been a duel between Italy and England, but you'd have a bunch of other players. I'm estimating that Mirror was about 50 and Heavenfall was around 65-70 when they died, just as a mental guide.
>>28659707514/middle puberty is probably the norm, but kids put into extreme situations can probably pop off earlier.
>>286608378That makes me wonder if the Italy had their own giga Ramus before Luca and Zoe came around. And also were Germany and France more concerned with the status quo compared to England or is Kayano just that busted compared to everyone else?
I've been thinking about this manga too much. Last night I had a dream where the empire's entire spire flowered.
>>286608973now that would be kino
>>286574709bump so I can read
>>286575039It's pretty obvious if she has a hard time understanding people. >>286575081Now this is a good twist.>>286598698I don't remember that getting explained but it's a clean way to do it if so, no plot holes to speak of and there's a lot of gravity to it unlike alternate universes/worldlines or paradoxes.
>>286598698It's not clear which tower the Papal states are from, but there's a few pieces of evidence.>The villageEnglish writing for the bar (other examples throughout the chapter), what looks like a british telephone box. Though other pages show western fire hydrants (more american from what I can tell) and there are what resembles tori gates as they enter the village, so it could be a cultural soup. On the other hand, the 'tori gates' are clearly some kind of barrier>Futurist namesI think the only excplicit names of the Futurists we've seen were Poppy and Todd. Neither of which are particularly Italian. There's also the Pope/Pontiff, but that title could have just been taken to fit the region and leverage religious devotion.I'm inclined to think the Futurists are American, mostly going by the design of their village.
>>286575740The empire is falling apart as a military force and we got a big reveal so they'll probably take center stage and we really will see the final battle relatively soon. This is Lucas' last chance to walk back from his edgelord path so I wonder if Zoe will get through to him and how it'll compare to Kayano with Akira.pic unrelated
>>286575192based X
>>286575703I'm guessing that Akira's real kid died tragically or never made it out of the womb or it's Lucas
>>286611323Zoe might be convinced/forced to fight somehow, which if the pattern holds will result in her death
>>286574797Once again Demi shows her quality.
>>286575158>I did a good job!
>>286612481>completely destroyed the faith of a devotee>got a half ass ok from her daughterAkira needed to keep this tard on a very tight leash.
>>286612153I don't know how that's possible after she just broke down. It's been a long time coming too.
>>286612944Luca pushed her too far. He got caught up with his need to crush the empire to consider her feelings as she was having a harder and harder time fighting.
>>286613992Yeah so I don't see anything he could say to change her mind now.
>>286614057If anything I think she will be the one to maybe snap him out of this mindset.
>>286614229he's not changing now withouy a Miura level happening
>>286614269I don't want to completely write it off, but I'm struggling to see what she can do other than cry and maybe spark something inside of him that he has buried in his grief. That seems like a stretch especially since he is likely seeing the endgame in sight as they have Kayano in their sights. These are going to be some very interesting chapters coming up that is for sure.
I hope Kayano doesn't die.
>>286615948I feel like Akira will find a way for her to live in the end.
>>286615948It feels like the plot and themes wouldn't go anywhere if she died now, unless it would be used to humanize Akira.
>>286614269Lucas has to come to a realization and let Zoe choose her own path otherwise he's no better than Akira. The mangaka wrote the parallels between them on the final page for a reason. I don't see how they can win here without Zoe, but I don't think she's going to London with them.
Op i know you here, thanks for the posting the storytime, i enjoy it alot
I think they should rape Lucas again, just for fun
Hey OP thanks a million for the storytime that introduced me to this amazing ass manga.
>>286618024>Lucas has to come to a realization and let Zoe choose her own path otherwise he's no better than Akira. The mangaka wrote the parallels between them on the final page for a reason.I kind of feel like that parallel is also there to set up the twist that Akira makes the right choice... and Lucas doesn't. Maybe Lucas mindfucks Zoe into fighting, maybe he talks her into doing it. I dunno. But I think he's gonna get her back in the game, and its gonna be a little fucked up. Contrasting to Akira siding with Kayano, and probably sacrificing himself for her sake.
>>286612153>Zoe might be convinced/forced to fight somehowLucas is going to Toot mind control her inadvertently or something.
>>286575081>the last part of the series is about going into space and fighting aliensIt's just like my Trigger animes.
>>286618897Whatever Lucas decides to do, it will make a permanent change for him and decide how dark the march to the capital will get. Zoe at this point is his moral barometer.
>>286619228>Zoe at this point is his moral barometer.Yeah! Thats it exactly. He's gonna fail that morality test with her.Maybe he'll feel bad about it, or maybe he'll push on regardless. I dunno. But I think thats the defining moment for him in this skirmish. He's been on a more, well not quite darker, but more offensive and combat happy path since being mindraped at the Futurist village. He's becoming more ruthless, more accepting of his role in the Papal army.I think he's losing touch with his humanity a bit, and he'll overstep with Zoe here.
>>286619543>not quite darkerHe didn't feel bad about massacring civilians in Southampton
>>286619009He won't. This story is already sad enough.
>>286619009>For example, if I told you to kill all the facsimiles...
>>286619009>implyingZoe will beat it just like she shook off the pontiff.
>>286619543I think it will also be instrumental in knowing whether their relationship is meant to be one of love interests or if its more imouto coded.
If Lucas fails with Zoe I'm predicting a kidnapping as the consequence, turning Zoe into a sapling princess in the tower. I don't think the mangaka's going to kill her off just yet.
>>286621211I think Zoe has the best survival chances out of anyone in the series including Lucas. She's definitely not going to die. Narratively what's at stake here is Lucas' direction as a character and the nature of his relationship with Zoe.
Zoe's sacrifice will be her borrowing ten years again and coma'ing out of the story
>>286621620>High chances of death:Akira, Cross, Coura>Lower chances:Lucas, Poppy>No chances of death:Zoe, Kayano, Demi
>>286619009Wasn't it established that he can only affect people he hasnt met and committed a memory to?He'd need some mental gymnastics to start seeing everyone as faceless looks to affect someone like Zoe or the Pope
>>286622971Yes so far he has only been able to affect people he sees like NPCs. If he sees them like their own person he can't affect them. If that ever changes due to a power up it's going to be when the story is almost over because it'd be extremely broken.I honestly have no idea where this will go. I doubt he's going to be brutal with Zoe though, he clearly still likes her. People exaggerate how he "fell", he really did nothing wrong and is lashing out against the status quo that he always tried to run away from. I hope he and Zoe don't end up together and he ends up with Coura instead but I don't think there's a chance he says anything fucked up to Zoe here.
>>286622706Cora will never die
Is it too late for us to get a Coura backstory chapter? Maybe that'll come up in the next chapter or two, the battle goes to shit with Lucas and Zoe mia and she has a "oh fuck war isn't fun after all" moment, flowers and saves the day. I don't know, just spitballing ideas.
We will get Coura backstory right before she sacrifices herself to save Luca
>>286619745It can get even sadder!
>>286622706You're nuts if you think Lucas, the main character, is more likely to die than Zoe, Kayano or Demi
>>286624147Total Coura life
>>286624154We will get it eventually. It will rise the likelihood of her dying a lot
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>>286621649>for you lucas...>i borrow the REST OF MY LIFE
>>286629214and then he flirts with coura again that slut
i must bed him
>>286629559If Coura ends up with Lucas I'll build a shrine
>>286622971>>286623007>Wasn't it established that he can only affect people he hasnt met and committed a memory to?People say this, but it's never actually been proven to be true, and there's evidence to the contrary. For example, Zoe was moved by Lucas's playing after the mirror arc, and Miura got the battle-high effect well after they were good friends. The only thing that Lucas knowing a person does is change his perception of them in such a way that he issues DOOT commands with their reaction in mind, meaning that he is subconsciously stopping himself from controlling them, but there's no reason to think he couldn't willfully attempt to override their will with his power if he wanted to, especially if flowering.
>>286581259Which song, does any anon here know?
>>286633641My assumption is that there's two level to his power: the minor influence: beaming commands straight into their heads and making them enjoy battles, and then there's the full mind control. He can do the first to anyone, but the full mind control doesn't work on people who recognizes as people. If he was just subconsciously stopping himself, why wouldn't he have affected Kayano and Akira and Cross back in Southampton? It would have been exclusively beneficial to his goals.>>286633717It's the title of the chapter where Udo and Carl throwdown. There's also now Fire Sign, which is on the same album.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEdtlk7MYc0
>>286634111>why wouldn't he have affected Kayano and Akira and Cross back in Southampton?Because he didn't consciously understand his power yet, as he wasn't even using it in a conscious manner. The intent he was feeling and projecting was homicidal rage at Akira and Kayano and that didn't map onto Akira and Kayano themselves in a way that made sense.
>>286634280>The intent he was feeling and projecting was homicidal rage at Akira and KayanoThat was Mont Tombe. Southampton was the town where he made everyone slaughter each other.
>>286634280>and that didn't map onto Akira and Kayano themselves in a way that made senseThey'd have killed themselves/each other like the people of Southampton. Unless it's just that he doesn't know he can do it and knowing they are their own people subconsciously blocks him.
>>286634991>They'd have killed themselves/each other like the people of Southampton. Suicidal ideation and homocidal rage are two different things. But you and >>286634977 are right in that they should have been affected at Southampton into slaughtering all the samefags and civilians if Lucas's power didn't actually have the limitation that the empire believes it does. I guess theoretically Lucas could be self imposing the limitation of his power because he believes it is real, because he was told it by someone he believed to be telling him the truth about his power, but that seems unlikely and a bit convoluted.
>>286625394I'm talking about him dying at the end of the series
>>286635090NTA but what I think is more likely is that you're misinterpreting stuff like Miura getting a second wind as it being Lucas' doing.But I do believe that throughout the entire story Lucas is subtly influencing everyone he interracts with. Everyone who had a chance to have regular exchanges with him sans Akira/Kayano all cozy up to him more than you'd think normal.
>>286635635>Everyone who had a chance to have regular exchanges with him sans Akira/Kayano all cozy up to him more than you'd think normal.And poppy. And what do those three characters have in common? Lucas never had anything but contempt for them. He was probably even unconsciously affecting people this way well before being picked up by the pope, hence why he could be carried around by a band of psychopath marauders and not have his boy hole worn out every night.
if lucas turned out to be a real SLUT would he have gotten his boyhole ravaged by everyone in the story due to him subconsciously manipulating them with his power to have wild sweaty sex with his butt
>>286635792He was pretty neutral to Poppy for most of the series. He showed more contempt to Coura at one point than he ever did to Poppy.
>>286635976One of the authors has to be a trapfag (or both)
>>286635992Lucas only dislike Coura transiently after having already have befriended her, and that distrust and fear was mitigated by her very quickly making clear that she knew she was fucked and wanted to improve. Lucas never felt anything negative against Poppy in the same way he did Coura after finding out about her killing the wind blade guy, but Lucas also never felt anything positive towards Poppy in the same way he did everyone else on the squad. They never hanged out, she was never competent at her job, she was constantly cowardly and rude, she never came up with any useful ideas, and she never showed any degree of care for the well being of anyone other than herself.
>>286636180Something I love about Coura is that she never actually wanted to change herself and she never got fixed in any way. She's still as fucked up as always and being that way she still got close enough to cause this love triangle. I've never been a shipper before this manga, I NEED her to win.
>>286636041Oh absolutely. When i saw Lucas i was kinda still on the fence on the overall gayness of the manga. But the moment i saw Kahid i knew there was some homosexuality involved. Theres something about those light chocolate boys only a true yaoi enjoyer would appreciate.
>>286636242She openly defied the pope telling her to assassinate an ally. You can say that she only did this because she knew Lucas wouldn't like it, but that's still positive change.
>>286636258It was pretty based of the author to have the childhood friends elope right after killing the yuri mommyfag
>>286629731 anon she lifted her skirt for literally 0.5 seconds and you’re already drafting marriage papers you people see one slightly unhinged medieval twink and immediately start pawing at your keyboard like a Victorian man spotting ankle at least wait for him to finish his mental breakdown arc before you volunteer as tribute, damn
Coura's power is tailor made to be used as a sacrifice to save Lucas
>>286638507Yes. That's why I'm so worried about her. The author also wrote a clear love triangle which is really weird in a story like this. It has to be resolved somehow. If you think about it, she either wins the Lucasbowl or dies for her love of Lucas and there's one that is clearly more likely than the other. Narratively, there are no other ways to resolve it than this.
A solution that no one will like but is very much in the realm of possibility is that Coura and Zoe both die
>>286639916or Lucas is the one dying.
>>286640053Honestly a valid ending as well. But seriously there's no way they wrote a clear love triangle into a story like this without a resolution for it. If you think about it, there are actually so many scenes about it, with Coura or Zoe being jealous, the flirting scene with Zoe sleeping, etc. It has to have a narrative reason, everything else that was built up eventually paid off. This will have a payoff too.
>>286639746>It has to be resolved somehow.I believe Lucas will end up with neither at the end. Very likely he either dies or becomes something that surpasses the need for romance.
>>286640132>Very likely he either dies or becomes something that surpasses the need for romance.A tree?
>>286640188>Lucas becomes tree (crying)
I see Pope giving his life for the cause, it's only fitting knowing how dedicated he's been and how tired he must be
>>286640526Only after we get a flashforward to his life before the towers as the ayys first arrived.
>>286638507That was something that was crossing my mind as of late.
>>286575056>>286575068>>286575081>>286575098>so... you know how the reason you've been doing all of this and risking you life is because I'm both your mother and a superior benevolent being?>yeah, nah; I'm not actually your kin, but rather a hostile foreign entity who wants to subjugate you, your race, and your entire world and all of your sacrifices have directly contributed to this :DD
Total ayys death.
Everyone is going to die except for Poppy, and she'll finally have to learn how to till the soil.
>>286647719You accidentally typed "everyone" instead of "no one" anon.
