Holy shit, I just finished rewatching eva and this little girl had gigantic balls. Why wasn't she the protagonist?">at 4 years old, her mother went insane, stopped recognizing her, and only talked to a doll.>her father fucked the doctor and married her right after the suicide.>the day she was chosen as a pilot, she found her mother hanging. Next to the doll.>at the funeral, she decided never to cry again. Never depend on anyone. She was 4.>spent her whole childhood training to be the best pilot. No childhood, no friends, no family, and yet she kept going. Alone>throughout the series, everyone rejects her or uses her as a tool. But she never breaks, until Arael.>tries to connect with Misato. Gets told to "deal with it." Never trusts an adult again, she adapts>tries with Shinji. He doesn't understand, doesn't hold her, she still fights beside him>tries with Kaji. He treats her like a child, she stops idealizing him.>nobody sees her as a person. Just a pilot. Just a tool. She keeps piloting anyway>gets mentally raped in episode 22'. Forced to relive every trauma. Destroyed, after that, nobody helps her. Replaced by Kaworu. Becomes furniture.>In the hospital, Shinji jerks off on her while she's in a coma, and still, she comes back>wakes up, connects with her mother's soul, the only real love she ever had, and goes out alone to fight nine Mass Production Evas. No help. No backup.>destroys them all with pure skill. If they weren't immortal, she would have won.>they tear her apart alive, rip out her eye, impale her. She keeps fighting until the last second.>after dying, thrown into instrumentality, a place she never chose. She accepts herself and, rejects it.>returns to reality. Sees the grave Shinji made for her. Destroys it, "Like hell I'm dead.">lies down next to him. When he wakes up choking her, she caresses his face. Accepts this shitty life over fantasyI think it's because Anno fucked a lot of pussies, that's why it's very well written.
>>286610482>spent her whole childhood training to be the best pilot.And yet she was the worst!
>>286610501Pretty sure that was Toji
>>286610501she was the best, she didn't need any power-up like that wimps shinji to humiliate the eva series and protect humanity
>>286610527Asuka was so bad at he job that Toji probably would've been a better pilot if his Eva hadn't been infected by Bardiel.
>>286610670Jobbersuka!
>>286610482>returns to reality. Sees the grave Shinji made for her. Destroys it, "Like hell I'm dead."Cut content isn’t canon
>>286610482yep op, we win
>>286610851Only a retard would say that.
>>286610482Because Shinji is the fish out of water, which is inherently easier for an audience to relate to.Also, Shinji > Asuka, because Shinji is honest to himself about his own self-loathing, while Asuka isn't. That's why Shinji routinely relives his traumatic past and can get through it, but when it happens to Asuka she snaps and tries to kill herself.
>>286611191Yes only a retard would say cut content is canon.
>>286610482>Why wasn’t she the protagonistShinji’s journey is more personal to Anno, Asuka is his feminine mirror and ultimately his complement.
>>286611213>man > woman because man is less emotionally retardedEva is full of life lessons.
>>286610482shes the nortubel of evangelion
Is this real-time costume change? (into the wrong plugsuit as well)Shikinami's bowtie also has some continuity issues.
>>286611485you just need to connect your two neurons, it's not a complicated work
>>286612133soryu also changes from having the same hair tufts as shikinami or not between shots
>>286612176Reasonable headcanon is not canon.
>>286610695>Jobbersuk-- ACK!
>>286611485Only a true retard would say that X is a dogma. Prepare yourself (not) to suck off Anno, again
>>286612722There is nothing overly dogmatic about insisting that unused ideas are not canon. Asuka isn’t secretly a werewolf, for example.
>>286612133>>286612211>into the wrong plugsuit as wellNo? That's her original plugsuit.>Shikinami's bowtie also has some continuity issues.It's ok, they'll fix it on the BR release (maybe).
>>286612449
>>286612807You mistake general concepts that had been implemented within the show with an aspect of certain idea or even somebody's personal view on said topic\subject that formed later.In terms of NGE ending neither TV or EoE are canons by themselves, nor ending depicted in rebuilds or any word said by creators of any of them are "truth". This is why NGE is still been disscussed over all these years - it's because there always will be some people who tend to rely themselves to something\someone and so simply can't think of said something\someone not been a part of something\someone "other".
>>286613010>You mistake general concepts that had been implemented within the showNo I have not, you will not find a scene where Asuka kicks her grave and makes a remark about not being killed.>TV or EoE are canons by themselves, nor ending depicted in rebuilds or any word said by creators of any of them are "truth".Anything goes sophistry.
>>286613010>that formed laterWerewolf Asuka is an older pitch for the Eva movie than EoE.
>>286610482Me and Tohsaka from Fate
>>286610482Because MANji HIMkari had bigger balls.
>>286613064The topic was about Asuka's place in show and now you are showing me some retarted shit about imaginable graves dug by pushover Shinji.Consider rereading this thread
Gachaslop always puts best girl up front
Keep the waifufagging to a minimum retards, this looks like it might potentially be an interesting thread for once.
>>286613144My reply was about the OP using cut content to describe a character. Try to keep up before replying again.
Can you guys rate my mental illness.
>>286613197lol no
>>286613342Oh nonono
>>286612807>Asuka isn’t secretly a werewolf, for example.I was gonna joke we don't actually know that for sure, but we do see her underneath a full moon in ep 22, damn.
>>286613315What line of OP post exactly characterizes Asuka? I only see excerpts from the plot
>>286613197>reitardsfixed
>>286613342The fact he's been doing that for a month is so fucking wild. I don't think he realizes how schizo that actually makes him look.
>>286613486that's the difference between genuine mental illness and people just trying to become thread personalities for attention or shit something up out of spite
>>286613381>ep 22Are you sure she's under a full moon after she gets mentally contaminated? Because she caught werewolf from the draft for her rape scene.
>>286613430Sure, bad faith weirdo, here’s the thesis statement of the post:>just finished rewatching eva and this little girl had gigantic balls. Why wasn't she the protagonist?And >think it's because Anno fucked a lot of pussies, that's why it's very well written.In other words, “here is how I describe Asuka’s story and character, and why she might be a better choice as a protagonist.”Here is the moment they referenced cut content:>returns to reality. Sees the grave Shinji made for her. Destroys it, "Like hell I'm dead."I correctly pointed out that it isn’t canon, end of recap.
>>286610482>at 4 years old, her mother went insane, stopped recognizing her, and only talked to a doll.>her father fucked the doctor and married her right after the suicide.>the day she was chosen as a pilot, she found her mother hanging. Next to the doll.>at the funeral, she decided never to cry again. Never depend on anyone. She was 4.That was so retarded. Stupid melodramatic backstory.
>>286613513Knowing him he genuinely believes he's doing some 4D trolling by sitting in that thread doing that. Which is just mental ilness
>>286613486>for a monthhe's been doing it for years
>>286613614I'm talking about the ghost thread spam. Of we really get into his schizo shit it's not even the worse thing he did. The BBC and 'p posting will never be topped
>>286613542op here, anun. In strict terms, the specific scene of Asuka kicking the grave marker is not canon. It's not in the film. However, the broken stake is a powerful symbol that many interpret as a nod to that idea. The 30th anniversary short, by showing Asuka rejecting fantasy worlds and choosing to return to her reality, validates the spirit of Last A without needing to make it explicit. That is to say: although the action is not canonical, the message that Asuka returns of her own will and refuses to be defined by her death, is.Even so, I think it's stupid to think otherwise, because they're very small details added throughout the work that connect too well, too perfectly. Why would Asuka break her grave marker? My implicit point is that they took the soul of both drafts (a disturbed Shinji, a furious Asuka) for the one we saw in EoE
>>286613532>>286613679here
>>286613679Perfectly reasonable take.
>>286613703Yep, that’s fine, not canon but informs your interpretation. All good.
>>286613638Probably a way to cope since the proxy site doesn't work anymoreIf you check the rest of the ghost threads you'll see they're full of schizos just like him spamming nonsense
>>286613762I wonder if he'll figure out that mostly everyone makes fun of him now since the short dropped
In the end I think Asuka ended up being the second protagonist, even though the original intention was Misato.Anno fell in love with her and her Seiyuu and the rest was history.
>>286613679CoolI kinda just wanna have sex with her tho
>>286613963I think a character like Rei would be better handled by Yoko Taro. But the biggest question is who's gonna get raped in the new Eva?
>>286614013That’s why Asuka throws away your love letters.
>>286612833TV/EoE Soryu's has all-red gloves, Shikinami's has black palms. The plugsuit's accents are orange rather than another shade of red in Rebuild, which is also how it looks in illustrations done by Sadamoto for the manga. Both TV and manga have two black spots near her blue collar, in Rebuild these are blue as well
She's not a very likable person.
>>286614106Shut the fuck up Boco.
>>286613520No, it's the flashback with Kaji, good point. Case reopened.
Reading all the japanese twitter comments over the contents of the short (not bitching about the camrip) is really interesting. We aren’t that different. I’ve seen several people pleased that the original continuity is separate, many happy asushins, and people debating the implications on EoE.
>entire speciak was about asukaDamn really makes you think
>>286614461Yeah it made me think a lot.https://rentry.co/sk3qs6fr
>>286614461the main character
She also has an university degree at 14That was probably the stupidest part, also because she never shows any signs of this superior education
>>286614861She is bright, not wise.
>>286613954I'd swear he was here for the camrip coming out as I remember someone responding to his usual tism with "Episode 27". Unless that was a copycat in which case Jesus Christ
>>286614539>Yeah it made me think a lot.
>>286615078He went full schizo and started posting scat before getting banned.
>>286615193I'm genuinely saddened he didn't suffer the aneurysm I've hoped he gets since he started
>>286615078He's been trying to find a new shitpost to latch on to since his usual shit doesn't have the same effect it after the short killed killed it
>>286614461>>286614649Shinji's (and pretty much every one else) story is done, it is only now that the main character is gone along with everyone else that Asuka can get the spotlight. Note that it's just a dialogue between Asuka and herself, in every sense.
>>286610501She was the victim of unfortunate circumstances, she incapacitated 9 whole evangelions on her own in under 5 minutes before their bullshit kicked in
>>286615631>She was the victim of unfortunate circumstancesThe only unfortunate circumstances she was victim of was the stuff about her mother, the rest is all the result of her own choices.>she incapacitated 9 whole evangelions on her own in under 5 minutesThe point is that she accomplished nothing. Asuka never accomplishes anything piloting the eva because it's only a mean to allow her to avoid facing her real issues, which actually only brings more issues and put her life on the line.
>>286612133They merged
>>286610482Is this really the only Eva thread up? Man, no one cares anymore...
>>286610482asuka is the coolest!
currently watching Eva and taiji just died?? where can they go from here when the protag just dies
>>286616568Who in the fuck is Taiji?
So.... at the end NGE and Rebuilds are on two different dimensions? I guess Original Shinji is still in the beach with Asuka and this was just how "Asuka left the instrumentality".
>>286616915yep
>>286616915No, it's a linear continuity, the story starts over, shinji and kaworu remain the same, the others go through different incarnations.
>>286616915it truly does not matter
>>286616915Get into marvel movies to understand this >>286617311
>>286616915More like different timelines
>>286617200>>286617296>>286617417How after all this time there's no conclussion?
>>286613342>Cumming inside her brainhttps://youtu.be/JAwH65cgRVk?si=FKenybenOkCszfvc
>>286610482She's the official deuteragonist
>>286617296>it's a linear continuity, the story starts overAlthough this was toyed with in 2.0, it eventually got dropped and the short explicitly deconfirmed it by referring to rebuild and NGE as separate realitiesKaworu is a special case as he seems to have meta-awareness of different, concurrent realities rather than living through a single linear one
Asuka best girl
>>286610482man, did you miss the part where the entire fucking planet was doomed, everyone's life was shit.
hmm...Khara is buttering us up for a female lead in the new show aren't they?
>>286617916That's Misato
>>286615817The point is the world is inherited by the one who fights.
>>286616755>he doesnt know taijidid you even watch eva like seriously
>>286618861Misato never moves the plot forward
>>286617200This reminds me of those little short skits they used to play after the credits in Bleach episodes, where Kon would fly out with a cape on.
>>286619251misato is a pedofihller and retarded
>>286617296Only Kaworu, not Shinji. There is no linear timeline except through Kaworu’s eyes.
>>286617559There isOriginal continuity:>Asuka will find happiness with Shinji in the post-3I Earth.Rebuild continuity:>The characters moved to a world without evangelion and will live out lives as normal people in the real world
>Anno thinks of the short as the fourth ending of Evangelion“It’s just a non-canon fanservice shitpost”-fags BTFOED.
>>286610482asuka would have been a male if sales had not depended on appealing women and normativity
>>286620041If Asuka was a boy there would be too much overlap with Shinji’s character, and their sexual dynamic is more interesting than her being a man.
>>286620051what you said is exactly what the post mentioned would have precluded sales. coombrains and anti male media couldn't have made an actual competent male marketable to have survived literal apocalypses on an own alone. there are no sexual dynamics on asuka's end apropos of to have mentioned it but your coombrain put it there. asuka would have never talked to shinji """irl""" but if she didn't on mass media there'd have been no sales. same thing with rei, she would have rather shinji gave up on being a pilot from the get go but it also wouldn't have been marketable. that the whole of eva would not have had an audience enough to have been made without adaptations had been made clear by the characters themselves. that kaworu for example literally mentioned how "multiple worlds" had him and shinji meet precisely because shinji had not changed was commentary on how braindead audiences would have paid for them to have suffered again. eva characters don't like you
>>286610482Did Asuka just need someone to show her not to care so much?
>>286620097>there are no sexual dynamics on asuka's endYou are a mentally raped individual.
>>286620107>male Mari
>>286620097>People like exceptional stories about exceptional peopleStop the presses.
>>286620140another male pilot besides Toji would've been nice
>>286620134asuka literally could not have cared less about shinji.kimochi warui.but you have to reduce everything to sex because you can't conceptualize more than one cause to outcomes >>286620147that zombies will be zombies would not have been some lesser point made in evangelion. no wonder even literal irl elites think the masses have got to go
>>286620160Not necessary, Rei already got shafted, one more in the mix would have been too much.
>>286620164You are mentally raped and do not understand Evangelion or Anno.Schizo crashout.
>>286620168Anno just hates Rei in general
>>286620164You should probably take your Seele style delusions of grandeur elsewhere.
>>286610695
>>286617200they were really planning to never show this? what could even lead to that insane decision?
>>286620201Now I think there’s no possible way: >>286619838My theory is it was announced as exclusive to drive up ticket sales and then it was always planned to be released afterwards.
>>286620178you can't conceptualize why half the frames put to screen on each eva episode would have been placed exactly where they were but you can watch slop to no end so you do it. you probably did not even figure out the literal characters would have avoided you personally like the plague so you keep your denial response and denial is the most predictable response of the masses. those kids were trained for output to the exception of literal daddy's boy which again would have been to have pandered to anti male marketing for the zeitgeist. evangelion sold because you're a zombie
>>286620205You are mentally ill, and projecting your hatred of humanity onto a work that has no relation to your fucked up worldview. You aren’t intelligent, you are fucked up.
>>286620205fun facts:you can:>buy merch>watch animeyou would never:>have talked to any of eva's cast irl. maybe kensuke or pen pen though
>>286620218>you are [buzzword so you don't have to think much]again you're in denial. go buy tickets to the next eva screening like you probably did before. you literally can't think about what characters would have thought but you can consume so consume
>>286620244>again [schizophrenic ramblings]Your coping mechanism for being a broken psychopathic retard is engaging in a fantasy that everyone else is beneath you. The truth is, it doesn’t get lower than you, a solipsistic wannabe Illuminati faggot.Go enjoy being a freak with no connection to reality.
>>286620272your words. thank you for buying eva
Still malding over the short are we?
>>286620331It’s been a rough few weeks for Asuka haters.
>>286620107this nigga would not make it through the first week
>>286614073>TV/EoE Soryu's has all-red gloves,Erm, no. While in the series itself she's often depicted without black palms (for simplicity, I presume), contemporary official artwork show her with black (or at least darker) palms.
Scavenging the wastes of Tokyo-3…
>>286620203of course they were going to show it, they were just going to wait longer (and probably sell it) so the people they successfully FOMO'd into buying a ticket for it didn't feel had.
>>286620365>contemporarythe chronicle books came out a full decade after the tv run
>>286620365>>286614073The actual real difference is these trapezoid things on the neck: TV/EoE suit has them in black, while Rebuilds suit has them in blue.So yes, in the short Asuka Soryu changed into the wrong suit.
>>286620415But they use old contemporary and production art.
>>286620164>asuka literally could not have cared less about shinjiwhat kind of girl gives up her first kiss to a guy she doesn't care about?
>>286620433they reproduce some production art, but the majority of the big splash illustrations, including the one you posted by youichi fukano, were done for those publications. there's even a separate artbook of them that was published afterwards
>>286620365>no>Posts something that isn't TV/EoE?
>>286620458Don’t engage with it.
>>286620371At least they have an out due to the DMCA goof
>>286620458lmaaaaaaaaaooooooo>but muh first kisswomen kiss a lot of men in their lives mane>>286620478think about it. you could stop being a zombie
>>286620369I would pay millions to see a manga about that post-apocalyptic world. Imagine Shinji and Asuka completely alone at the end of the world
>>286619838Right about everything award
>>286620507I don’t think anyone can do it justice, our perfect version is in our heads. Maybe a fan version could work but officially it should never be touched.
>>286620491>women kiss a lot of men in their lives maneHey kenbro, I don't think a girl with PTSD, emotionally immature and with tons of traumas, who rejected men, destroyed love letters and got bored with them, would kiss a bunch of random guys. What's more, after kissing Shinji she felt depressed and sad because he didn't hug her. Bye kensukebro
>>286620519Anno, that faggot, should have done it, but that meant losing millions in sales of figures of Rei, Misato and other girls from the series, but it would have been a very interesting work
>>286620097the copes are becoming even more deranged
>>286620540It never would have been done right. I’m very thankful he has left One More Final as it is. Episode 27 was just enough spin on it to retain its power.
>>286620532asuka was mentally retarded, she first mentions the "walls of jericho" to a japanese boy and then feels sad because he didn't understand, This simple scene demonstrates everything: how the characters can't connect with each other, and how asushin exists
>>286620532not kenbro>>286620549are they though?
Stop feeding the schizophrenic attentionwhore.
>>286620567you are the problem evangelion suffers to try to solve
>>286620507Sogo Ishii could've done it, at the time. He was on a spiritual/aesthetic/visceral wavelength with August in the Water that i feel would've worked.
>>286620532also asuka would not have fucked you. not if you understood her, not if you didn't. go white knight some other hoe, she literally doesn't need it or cares
>>286620577meant >>286620519oops
Imagine getting mindbroken by a 30th anniversary special
>>286620465>>286620475Fair. In the anime itself (at least I failed to see otherwise during skimming) palms are red.However, a lot of pre-Rebuild official art shows black (or dark blue) palms.
completely changing the subject, this poster makes me feel very nostalgic, melancholic, and depressing. It teleports me back to 1997 and brings back memories I never experienced. Holy shit, depressing
>>286620635Depressed? The words I Need You are the catharsis of the entire series.
>>286620619anon... ironically you managed to pick one of the few illustrations are ISN'T official art. sadamoto did that for a doujin
>>286620577>August on the WaterPicked up
>>286620577as such, it's an excellent idea, asuka and shinji overcoming their other problems until they find love or something like that, but it wouldn't have sold at all
>>286620770Eva sells like hotcakes, it would have sold.The problem is following up a 10/10 ending. You’d need an 11/10 experience to justify disturbing it.
>>286620684Your autism is stronger. But I made my point. Palm and accent colors are inconsistent in pre-Rebuild artwork. The main difference is black/blue neck trapezoids, which is consistent (at least I can't recall an pre-Rebuild image with blue trapezoids).
I always wondered if post-3I could work as a game. The closest to what I imagine is Lost in Blue for the DS.
>>286620861VR asuka hugging simulator
>>286615817>t. Malding retard who hasn't watched the most up to date canon content
>>286620339>30 more years of them being wrongGlorious
>>286620507>Imagine Shinji and Asuka completely alone at the end of the worldThis is before they acquire a weird cat like creature with blue hair and red eyes
>>286621216
So that special that got leaked.Is that Asuka's pov of instrumentality ala nge episode 25 and 26?
>>286621395It isn’t impossible to interpret it that way but it seems to me to be more reasonable as a meta-canon work rather than a literal canonical event.
>>286621453>M-meta canonCry some more >>286619838
>>286621465There’s no tangible difference between the short being a literal in-universe occurrence or a purely metatextual ending. Both hold the same implications over Asuka’s character and EoE.
>Last A discussion ITThttps://x.com/khara_inc2/status/1983413910024925503/photo/1 Ive never seen anyone in the EN speaking net talk about this.Back in oct., khara X acc posted one of the working scripts for One More Final by Anno.In the pic (just ocr and translate it yourself if youre dekinai) it begins with something we've never heard of before where Shinji says to Yui, 「もういいんだ、母さん。父さんの所にいってあげてよ」or "Thats enough/Its fine, mother. Go be where father is (for his sake, the implication of あげて here)" which has implications about Gendo's fate in EoE.Then theres what I assume to be a dialogue between them, but it might also be a monologue of just one of the characters in "If you're with the eva, you can live forever""but there is no one else"Then it goes into a mix of what we know of the two aborted endings Last A and Last B. This probably means early on it was all originally one ending with all the stuff in Last A and B but they kept cutting One More Final down.It actually begins with what seems to be an earlier version of Last B, Shinji is building the graves, and there are still the lines about Shinji thinking people wont come back but a different line in thinking he has to be able to live and rely on himself alone. Then the Last A stuff happens after Asuka appears, but her kicking her grave isn't there yet. She gets choked by Shinji, and says the original ending line of "No way I'll let someone like you kill me"whats interesting is after Asuka appears and immediately before the choking are these lines.「まだ、生きてる。だから生きてくさ」「生きなさいよ。一人で死んだら、絶対、許さないから」"I'm, still alive. So I have to live on""Go and live. If you die alone, I'll never forgive you"Note that the first line is what Shinji says in the Last B that we know of, but instead of Shinji holding a severed hand it was apparently originally a dialogue between him and Asuka.It validates japanese theories like youtu.be/Ts-wiyO3PPs (ignoring asuka not tanged part) and goes against bad faith interpretations
>>286621496forgot pic
>>286614539nice essay, I'm taking this as my own take from now onhow many posts would this be if you posted it ITT?
>>286621496Interesting first go-around.
>>28662154010 posts minimum.
>>286621496>asuka not tanged partwhat
>>286621496I wonder if the Gendo thing has any implications on concurrency…It’s hard to understand what Anno was going for in this rough draft because we don’t have his directed performance visually or in audio.
>>286621570the video is a pretty good interpretation of Asuka and Shinji's relationship and a pretty good reading of OMF, but the author headcanons Asuka not getting tanged and surviving within Eva 02, which is pretty against the orthodox take of Asuka getting tanged and choosing to come back of her own volition (orthodox in both the east and west). Mercifully, the headcanon has zero bearing on the rest of the video or the interpretation and is just a weird aside
>>286621496That video is interesting and outside the box thinking, but I think it headcanons a little too much more than the sequence actually conveys. The biggest point of contention I have is the idea that Shinji is mercy killing Asuka. It doesn’t align with the anecdote that Anno witnessed a lover’s quarrel where a woman put her hand on his cheek and brought him back to reality, and on the face of it I don’t think it matches Shinji’s performance.Overall I think they got the meaning of the ending down pretty well, but the literal sequence of events they describe are a bit of a stretch, and outside of what a viewer could reasonably come to themselves.
>>286621621that sounds incredibly retarded>>286621797>Shinji is mercy killing Asukathat sounds INCREDIBLY retardedwhy does eva compel people to wrap themselves up in these plainly idiotic mental knots trying to explain things that don't need 1/10th the effort to get. the choking i can kinda get because it asks the viewer to intuit and understand things emotionally but we are literally shown the dead being tanged on screen with zero ambiguity
>>286621621I don't think I can get behind that one. I took it so for granted that Asuka had been brutally macerated, I assumed she was there at the end to prove full on resurrections were possible.
>>286610482What are employee benefits like at NERV?
The biggest brain take from the video is answering the question over why the ending is ambiguous, and I absolutely agree that the point is to put us in their shoes, struggling to understand their intentions, because the ambiguity of the other is the opposite of instrumentality, that’s what living with others is.
Episode 27 sheds some light on what kimochi warui means. It seems to be a very general all encompassing sentiment.
>>286622059>I need to be told what words mean and what those to have used them thoughtimagine having been that filtered
>>286622007that was a question?
>>286621956>>286621797>>286621940Just to make it quick here's evageeks take on it being a misconception that Asuka doesn't die.>Asuka and Eva-02 were killed by the Mass Production Evas. Maya's and Shinji's horror, and the mangled state of Eva-02, make this explicit. Since Asuka was at an extremely high sync rate and suffered bodily injury corresponding to the Eva's injuries, there was no way Asuka could have survived the multiple Spear impacts or Eva-02's subsequent mutilation by the MP Evas. Just after she's stabbed, Maya also yells in desperation, "Asuka is...", but is unable to finish her sentence. Although it is only (strongly) implied, it fits with Maya's squeamishness throughout the movie that she was going to say "Asuka is dead!" It's true that Asuka wears bandages over her injuries in the final scene of EoE, but no one was around to bandage her after she was injured, so this is simply how her body "respawned". As mentioned above, her soul was harvested by Rei/Lilith and she later returned through Instrumentality. Basically the movie makes it explicit that she dies with Maya literally monitoring her vital signs the entire time
>>286622548>here's evageeks takeby allah you people are dogs
>>286622059>>286622262Whether Anno intended to or not, he basically just managed to ape the iconic ending of Godard's Breathless/À bout de soufflehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlx4ldY-9x0>c’est vraiment dégueulasse
>>286622262That’s a whole ass other sentence.>>286622377Infamously so.>>286622582Try producing anything of value.
>>286622548>there was no way Asuka could have survivedSkill issue
>>286622587That movie was so shit
Quantum Rei saved her.
Like they were gnawing on Eva 02's exposed spine. We must have just missed seeing her sucked out of the entry plug like an oyster, right?
>>286622767h-hot...
>>286622548>>286621496why is it assumed that she magically appeared bandaged and with an eye patch? In fact, if both drafts were used for the ending, then it's logical to think that she spent weeks alone, bandaging her eye and arm, before kicking the grave. As for why shinji strangled her, it's simple: he was hallucinating. Even a letter from the series confirms this.
>>286624142Does bandaging an arm split in two actually do anything?
Why the fuck rebuild shinji appears with nge asuka in her instrumentality thing?
>>286625121Kensuke cuck is back and posting the same "Rebuild Shinji" shit.
>>286625121Are you ever gonna get new bait or is it just gonna be the same shit you say constantly?
>>286625492>>286625524Are you fags gaslightning me or something? So it isnt rebuild shinji? Then whats all this people saying shit like "wow shinji in his winter uniform since in his world theres winter"
>>286625914Shinji's shown wearing that uniform in both Rebuilds and NGE. It's literally just the uniform he worse before moving to Tokyo 3
>>286626161Then it brings me even more questions. If thats NGE shinji then why it shows her a future with the instrumentality? nge instrumentality isnt a wish well and shinji was just outside on the broken world after rejecting instrumentality. ...
>>286626339Uh oh ESL melty
>>286626362Huh?
>>286626339Because instrumentality can show you possible worlds, alternate timelines and alternate universes. Everyone also sees something different so Shinji doesn't actually need to be in it for you to see a version of him
>>286612133I'm bummed that they used the ugly nu-Vangelion artstyle for this short.
I literally just realized this but Shinji on the train is wearing a winter uniform, since he's from a world with no Eva
>>286621496wait wtf?is concurrency real then?I mean I never really bought into the whole Shogouki eating Gendo = soul annihilation thing anyway
>>286630159Wouldn't Shinji from a world with no Eva also be dead since there would be nothing to stop the angels
Asuka is the Tsundere queen
>>286630243Yeah I've always thought that any time any character talks about "a world with no eva" what they really mean is "a world where second impact couldn't happen"
>>286622587Fun fact: in the "wall of Jericho" scene Asuka wasn't talking about the Bible, but was actually referencing tit-for-tat a scene from 30s romcom film "It Happened One Night" because she's a lonely girl who likes watching romance movies.
>>286610695>>286620200Asuka really is the Vegeta of Eva.>Emphasis on pride as a Saiyan/pilot.>Refers to themselves as elite.>Questionable win/loss record.>Displays skill but ultimately loses big fights.>Views self as the main character.>Has a rivalry with the main character over whose stronger.>Main character is aware of the rivalry but not as invested.
In retrospect, was it a good choice by khara and netflix to translate 好意に値するよ as this?yes I know they changed it to affection later
>>286633180Yes because it better conveys what they were really trying to do with Kaworu.
>>286633180I always find it funny when people want to paint an inhuman agent of humanity's destruction as an LGBTQ icon.
>>286630210It’s complicated. Concurrency has no explicit tier 1 source, a strong hint in a tier 2 source, and an explicit deconfirmation in a tier 3 source.I think it makes far more sense if it is true but the evidence conflicts.
>>286634294LGBT icons are always inhuman agents of humanity's destruction though
>>286630243No Eva means no angels
>>286610482She was supposed to be the protagonist, which means Gendon was supposed to be her Dad and Yui her Mom that tried to murder/suicide them before getting turned into Unit 01 (possibly to save her from another Impact.) The execs convinced him to add a male MC because they said that no one would watch a show with a girl MC. It's honestly kind of funny because it makes all of Asuka's dogging on Shinji kind of a meta joke about how she'd be a better MC. She and Rei are different aspects of Nadia from Secret of Blue Water that Anno was exploring after not being able to do what he originally wanted with the story
>>286636436Source
>>286610851When shinji is alone, all the graves are standing . When asuka arrives, one is broken... It's pretty blatant
>>286613342Holy based!
>>286610482Her mom is hotter. https://files.catbox.moe/01mlqp.jpg
What a cute
>>286636760That’s not what is portrayed.
>>286636963Very
>>286637005How dare you question my headcanon!
>>286637195I’m only properly categorizing your headcanon as headcanon. Shouldn’t be controversial.
>>286632346Asuka, in any case, is a very underrated character narratively. She's often appreciated for her design and superficial personality, but most people ignore her backstory. She has many layers and is much deeper than 90% of the admired characters on this board
>>286631434The walls of Jericho were destroyed with a trumpet; Asuka didn't want Shinji to destroy them in the same way. They were named for a reason. What a faggot Shinji is
>>286637424Watch It Happened One Night.
>>286636865>>286613342Every time I point out the Kensuke mentally ill retarded brown pedo who posted both BBC and pizza schizo is doing something extremely retarded schizo he makes a point calling it basednow I ask you, Brown pedo how is that based? Is because you think it's funny? It's not. Is because you think you're a super cool troll? You're not, the shit is mentally ill Is it you think people seethe? They don't, especially that Anno Anno raped you.
>>286637661Holy cringe!
>>286637424https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zUaNKBQ04chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOkqSKhKd40
>>286637388ThisShe is the character I empathized the most, the episode with Arael entering her head was moving
>>286637701>>286636865Every time I point out the Kensuke mentally ill retarded brown pedo who posted both BBC and pizza schizo is doing something extremely retarded schizo he makes a point calling it basednow I ask you, Brown pedo how is that based? Is because you think it's funny? It's not. Is because you think you're a super cool troll? You're not, the shit is mentally ill Is it you think people seethe? They don't, especially that Anno Anno raped you. Lolcow is gonna stay one but don't worry Shinji is still fucking Asuka
>>286637798Holy schizo babble!
>>286637701>>286636865>>286637820Is this the part where you think you're trolling?
>>286637848Holy seethe!
>>286637820>>286637701>>286636865>>286637866Brown melty. Never gets old. But jannies need to clean this shit up. I'm tired of the (You)s
>>286637953Holy cope!
>>286637970Every time I point out the Kensuke mentally ill retarded brown pedo who posted both BBC and pizza schizo is doing something extremely retarded schizo he makes a point calling it basednow I ask you, Brown pedo how is that based? Is because you think it's funny? It's not. Is because you think you're a super cool troll? You're not, the shit is mentally ill Is it you think people seethe? They don't, especially that Anno Anno raped you.Lolcow is gonna stay one but don't worry Shinji is still fucking Asuka
>>286610482>destroys them all with pure skill. If they weren't immortal, she would have wonMeanwhile in an alternative universe:https://youtu.be/_rvvAXCVFnw
kencuck.it's over.it's time to rest.
I feel bad for Kensuke, he got adpoted by a schizophrenic retard.
>>286638456He's not, he's so asshurt that he actually ran back to his /ghost/ threadhttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285586705/#q285586705
>>286637388Asuka is my favorite character,along with Misato in Evangelion. Regardless of how people feel about Dragonball, I think Vegeta is well written and has a really good character arc.Asuka's view of herself, and goal of being an ace pilot play well into her story and themes.
>>286610482Exactly, OP, she's the best girl, that's why Shinji chose her, because she's the only one who sees him as an equal. Asushin confirmed for 30 years
>>286637424Shinji should have known the biblical reference and movie that the line was based on. Truly disappointing
In 14 min that short>killed at lot of the schizo headcanon >killed alot of the schizo shitposting >confirmed a ship>made Kencuck want to kill himself >actually gave Asuka a decent ending >made a 4th ending to Eva >was actually decent >threads have actually gotten slightly betterIs Eva on /a/ saved?
>>286638773If Shinji knew how to read between the lines or got even a little closer to Asuka, just a little bit, he probably would've fucked her. If Asuka had been more explicit, she possibly would've fucked him
>>286638889Until Yoko Taro gives us a shot in the arm, yes.
>>286638923I have hope in Taro. Honestly he's like the best person after Anno to write Eva
>>286620602OMG MY GINGER LOOKS SO CUTE WITH THAT YELLOW RIBBON :3
>>286638891shinji just needed someone to explain the concept of shit tests
Ddjdjdjdj
>>286638891sauce?
>>286610482>Why wasn't she the protagonist?"because she can't make a choice
>>286637748Arael episode was one of my favorites. I love the horror vibes and the way it ties everything together with Asuka's story and who she is as a person.I like that the short referenced episode 22. It's the scenario where things start to get more serious as opposed to the other more comedy oriented scenes. It showed that Asuka was still uncomfortable with what happened with her mother, and connects with Asuka rejecting an ideal setup that she might have wished for as a child. The dialogue also feels really creepy("you're a genius",you worked so hard")
>>286639039>"B-baka..."
>>286639255It is an underrated moment that she has made peace with her mom’s death.
>>286639255it does come off as a mix between a childish fantasy and a tainted memory
>>286637424With horns, anon; and Shinji clearly never had the horn.
>>286639511>plays strings instead of brassit was over before it began...
Lot of stuff about alternate timelines, could there be one where a darker skinned/tan skinned Asuka or Rei exist due to some genetic mix up?
>>286639596Too wide of an infinity
>>286639596the timeline where they get to go on the okinawa trip
>>286636436I read that Sadamoto convinced Anno to have a male MC to play on the tropes of the young boy mecha pilot. I started watching Gundam recently(currentlyin the middle of Zeta), and Shinji is very similar to Amuro Ray.There's early concept art of Asuka and also a female MC that looks like Shinji. A big part of Asuka's story is wanting attention and validation, as well as being the main character. I think her position in the story works for her.
>>286639760>and also a female MC that looks like Shinji.can you post it? the only early concept stuff ive seen is from the proposal
>>286639255There's also the heavy implication that that episode takes place on her birthday>>286639596>>286639664Someone find the "I'm pale Ikari-kun I'm so pale..." SIRP panel
>>286638891What is this from?
>>286610482I think that in episode 10 she falls completely in love with Shinji when he saves her life; just think about what that means considering her history
>>286639786I tried looking for it, and there's nothing earlier than the proposal. I must've mixed up interview commentary with early art concepts in my head. Sorry for spreading internet misinformation. I could've sworn I saw it in the manga or something. Sadamoto does say that Shinji is a slightly altered Nadia drawing wise(same face), so maybe that's where I got the idea.
>>286640325Maybe it was an early drawing of Maya?
>>286620369That arm scar is fucking gnarlyI wonder if she lost her eye.
the asukas should have made out
>>286637005You get backgrounds of the graves, and shinji alone Then you get a background of a broken grave , and shinji notices asuka beside him, surprised to see her present.We don't literally see her arrive and kick it down and we're not told that's what happened but it's basic inference to understand. If you're too autistic to discuss the concept of off screen events then I don't know what to say to you
>>286638891We see her react to direct interest/affection from shinji in the anniversary short and she's all giggly and sweet just like she is with kajiHer usual bitter mood and bad attitude stem from confusion (resentment) and desperation..when things are made clear, she's a totally different girl.
>>286642288same thing with how shinji isn't just the passive sad boy when he finally gets a tiny grain of self esteem to work with
>nobody posted the "Asuka is an NPC" shitpost/a/ has fallen...
>>286640274the piece of shit literally let her "die" on EoE. Shinji deserved nothing tbqh.
>>286636500> In the early design stages of the Neon Genesis Evangelion anime, creator and director Hideaki Anno proposed including a girl similar to Asuka as the protagonist. Character designer Yoshiyuki Sadamoto proved reluctant to accept the idea of a female character in the lead role after Gainax's previous works like Gunbuster and Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water; he said: "A robot should be piloted by a trained person, whether it is a woman or not makes no difference, but I cannot understand why a girl should pilot a robot". He thus asked the director to use a boy in the role of main character, downgrading Asuka to the role of female co-protagonist.> Anno also thought of her as Nadia La Arwal from The Secret of Blue Water with a different hairstyle.SAUCE:1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asuka_Langley_Soryu2. Takekuma, Kentaro, ed. (March 1997). 庵野秀明パラノ・エヴァンゲリオン (in Japanese). Ōta Shuppan. pp. 134–135. ISBN 4-87233-316-0.3. Interview with Yoshiyuki Sadamoto in Der Mond: The Art of Yoshiyuki Sadamoto - Deluxe Edition. Kadokawa Shoten. 1999. ISBN 4-04-853031-3.4. Takekuma Kentaro, ed. (1997). 庵野秀明パラノ・エヴァンゲリオン (in Japanese). Ōta Shuppan. p. 99. ISBN 4-87233-316-0.
>>286636500>>286644305Besides that, it's just paying attention to the design of the story and thinking of Shinji wasn't there what would fill his place? If Asuka is the main character as originally intended everything fits surprisingly well: > Gloomy Asuka we see in Eva is how she acts around Anno and explains why she has such a complex for Kaji (her Daddy issues)> We never find out who was raising Shinji basically his whole life before the show since it definitely wasn't Gendon. That's because it was supposed to be Kaji and the storyline didn't work for Shinji> Misato and Kaji was supposed to be a layer of tension between her and Asuka preventing them from truly bonding despite her Mommy issues (same as in Eva but obviously was supposed to be more prominent) > Rei and Asuka's "rivalry" was supposed to be more pronounced because she's the mysterious weird girl that her Dad seems to have ran off to play Daddy for this whole time. Deapite this she has to find a way to sync up with her and then it turns out she's her dead Mom that tried to murder her. > Adds a layer to Unit 01 sometimes being uncooperative/going psycho due to Asuka and her Mom's backstory Also the Nadia connection: Nadia was a fiery and arrogant girl with blue hair and a mysterious past she can't remember as well as a funky animal friendAsuka is the fiery arrogant teenaged girlRei is the blue haired girl with a mysterious past she can't remember Pen pen is the funky animal friend.
>>286637005I disagree
>>286644323that's pretty convincing
>>286644455Thank you. It blew my mind the first time it occurred to me, especially since I've never seen anyone else make the connection.I'm the Anon who first came up with the It Happened One Night theory, as well for what its worth
>>286644305>A robot should be piloted by a trained personlike... shinji?
>>286610482Arael mindraping Asuka is one of the most terrifying scenes I've seen in any piece of fiction and I've watched all the horror slops and thriller slops and ect ect ect>Bro... Nothing scares an alpha like meLearn how to consume media
>>286644323In terms of her personality and behavior, Nadia is way more like Asuka than she is rei - reckless, fiery, emotional, stubborn.Though she is a vegetarian and descends from mysterious human-origin-alien race.Evangelion was supposed to be a pseudo sequel to Nadia. There's an episode in Nadia where they find these giant "prototype" humans sealed away in an ancient vault that are practically just Eva units.
>>286644588really?
>>286639099>>286639983Pretty sure that's a parody of the infamous tokyo ghoul chapter where that very scenario happens
>>286638891So asuka is not a virgin at 14 years of age?Explain now asukafags
>>286639447This is EoE Asuka, who has already found out that her mother never abandoned her and was watching over her all along, after all
>>286645128Yeah, but see that's why Rei doesn't really have a personality and is "blank" because she's just the parts of Nadia that are "cute girl with blue hair, amnesia, and mysterious past" and Asuka is her with that stripped out. Also, side note is that Asuka's VA modeled her interactions with Shinji off of Nadia and Jean which I think implies she may have been the intended love interest in the beginning.>>286645140Yeah. At least, I never saw anyone bring it up until I thought of it and posted about it
>>286645998I think that was just an icebreaker question. If he says yeah she can go: "wanna lose it?" and if he says no she can go: "wanna take mine?"
>>286638891There are some images in End of Eva that make it seem they did fuck.
>>286643874Nothing he could have done would have changed anythingUnit 01 was covered in Bakelite long before he got to the launch chamber, and it only broke itself out AFTER Unit 02 was mangled
>>286646583And that's where Shinji goes "why?" like in the kiss scenario
>>286645998Kaji victim
Asuka cheeks in 2026!
>>286647524This gives me hope for the new seriesThat we may be getting bare butt cheeks from the girls (be they the original Asuka, Rei, Minato, and maybe even Mari if she's included, or a new cast if that's the route they go)
>>286634382NTA but what are those sources?
>>286647723Will we finally see the girl's side of the onsen scene?
