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Jester is the best character in this series by a mile, everytime I see them I go "wow its literally me".
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>>286618926
>Cucks you
Nothing personnel kid
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>>286618926
You're a little girl on the inside?
Based actually.
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Please wake up ORT so grands get summoned!
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just let the general die at this point and start over this saturday
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>>286620361
Yeah that might be the best option
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>>286620360
Grands can't do shit against ORT.
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Zealot saved me
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Reminder
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>>286620410
I disagree
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If watcher can tell sigma where everyone is why cant he just use his military assassin experience to kill everyone?
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>>286620361
This
We’ve had like 10 threads in 3 days
It’s time to let it go
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What's the point of Haruri if Ishtar just controls her servant?
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where's the other thread...
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So in the Epic of Gilgamesh after Enkidu and Gil become bros they decide they want to do some epic man shit and go to the Cedar forest. A plan in what is proably Iran now and want to cut down the valuable trees and bring the wood back to become rich and also slay Humbaba the demon who protects the woods under the gods demand to be seen a heroic.
Now they go to do this except even when jumbing Humbaba their getting their ass kicked because he's that strong and has god powers and auras which can paralyze and knock them out.
So Giglamesh begins to lie and talks about how he will surrender Humbaba his hot sister if Humababa lets them go and drops his aura.
Humbaba who's like a complete retard goes "Yoinks! Alright" And drops his guard.
Upon which he gets walloped by Gilgamesh. Humababa then beings to complain that "You guys tricked me,e what the fuc,k not cool bros! I'm just like a sad piece of shit hermit man with no family because I'm so fucking ugly. The gods ordered me to protect his place if you kill me they'll be angry. Also I want to live so please don't kill me!"
Gilgamesh kinda feels bad for Humbaba at first until Enkidu tells him "We've already came this far, let's just go all the way. If the gods are mad this won't make them madder." (This is called foreshadowing)
So Gil kills him and cuts off his head, bringing it back home as a trophy.
I tell you all of this for one reason. How is Humbaba in fate supposed to be portrayed? Is this a Sasaki Kojirou moment where Humbaba is an imaginary creation or is he just straight up evil calamity incarnate in the fate verse without the nuiance?
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>>286621021
That is full of typos, shit, I swear I'm not an ESL.
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>>286621036
Nice try, ESL.
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>>286620360
>he thinks Grand servants can do anything against ORT
Kek. No Grand servants are planet buster tier, sorry.
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>>286621036
>>286621021
You might be one of those people who genuinely benefit from letting an LLM type for you.
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>>286621130
I don't know why I'm bad at typing. I think it's just my ADHD brain slamming the keys faster than I can think, so I end up just typing out what pops into my head, even if it doesn't make sense grammatically.
I'm not sure, but it's something I developed in the last few years.
Anyway, my question still stands. Is the Humbaba of fate supposed to be different from the one in the Epic of Gilgamesh?
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>>286621156
>Is the Humbaba of fate supposed to be different from the one in the Epic of Gilgamesh?
Sure. Its a world where King Arthur is a girl.
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>>286620855
>What's the point of Haruri if Ishtar just controls her servant?
She need worshippers, silly. And 1 is better than 0.
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>>286621178
>Sure. Its a world where King Arthur is a girl.
But it does make sense why Guinevere slept with Lancelot. She was a straight woman and was not happy that her assigned husband ended up being a woman. This change really puts the infidelity subplot in a different perspective.
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>>286618926
youre ftm?
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Is it just me or are the masters always the most boring parts in every Fate? I would honestly love to see a Servant only HGW without any of those annoying mages around
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>>286620384
>>286621113
gilgamesh solos
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>>286620757
At the end of the day Sigma is a human and when faced with Servants, DA or Humans with NPs there isn't really much he can do
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>>286621113
Artoria + Romulus + Orion + Noah + Solomon + King Hassan might pull it off against LB ORT
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Are we still doing Grand wanks in 2026...
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>>286621337
They couldn't even get past Olga
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What does having demon powers do for Alcides specifically, aside from giving him wings? Why not steal Natural Born Killers?
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>>286621389
Honestly as bad as the Grands have been treated I think Beast got it worse. They had such a great start with Goetia, Fou and Tiamat but then Kiara got to be a Beast, then Kama, then fucking Olga and then that absolute mess that was Vitch happened and I completely lost interest in them.
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>>286620360
>Please wake up ORT so grands get summoned!
We might have someone in the Strange Fake cast who is worthy firepower wise. But that person isn't going to be revealed this season.
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Still unsurpassed
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>>286621529
saber gilles…
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>>286621290
FGO is this way, sir.
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I always prefer the masters over the servants.
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>>286621599
I prefer when they both compliment each other.
They’re all characters at the end of the day
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Redline will save Type-Moon
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>>286621580
I feel like FGO is actually an office drama where you summon all your coworkers as servants....
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>>286620410
he would own everyone on that list if he wasn't babysitting tsubaki
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BEAST
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>>286621652
This guy is the true potential man of this war
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>>286621617
What’s Gil thinking about here
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>>286621652
Technically, he is merely a big dumb virus.
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>>286621298
>gilkek the grand jobber
lmao
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Its kinda strange that Narita, fanboy supreme, didn't introduce the fabled Gatekeeper class when he revived Gil.
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>CAUSE YOU GOT TO BREAK OUT TO BE THE BRAT
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Why didn't Richard use his magecraft against gilgamesh?
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>>286621337
Anon all 7 Grands fought against Olga at the same time and it resulted in an overwhelming defeat, while Olga isn't half as strong as ORT. Actually she is laughably weak compared to ORT.

ORT is stronger than any other character we have seen in Fateverse and it's so not even close. The only possible thing that could stop ORT is maybe Chaos but we know absolutely nothing about him so.
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Seriously why aliens?
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>>286622090
The whole concept of servants relies on Earth aka Gaia and Alaia stepping in to protect itself. Thus each planet (and likely other stellar objects) has its own version of that and thus aliens.
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I love all the lion roars we get when Dick uses Excalibur
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The anime supposedly only has 2 episodes left and I still have no idea what is going on in this final fight. And what's the deal with the little hospital girl and blackness around town and why everyone wants her.
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>>286622383
She has the most dangerous servant in the war but is too retarded to make use of him, so all he does is protect her. The blackness around town is springing up because all the retards are rousing him by causing a ruckus near Tsubaki
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>>286622397
Also she's in a coma so she can't do anything either way.
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>>286622397
>that pic
Is her servant literally Death? I didn't have that impression. Just reminded me of this guy.
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>>286622432
There's always been some stupid confusion about it but it's literally the pale rider of the apocalypse, not some bacteria summoned as a servant, and pestilence itself isn't a real horseman, by all means it's Death, or at least an aspect of death.
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I do not understand the plot of this shit at all. It's jsut one ass pull after another and nothing makes sense.
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>>286622484
you may be retarded
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>>286622466
he doesnt even have the horse though....
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>>286621442
Who's the next Beast candidate?
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>>286622497
He doesn't need one, death rides on the wind and the waters, the birds and the people, that's why it has Riding EX
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>>286622466
>and pestilence itself isn't a real horseman, by all means it's Death, or at least an aspect of death.
Why is it that way?
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Does Prince/King John make sense as a bootleg Richard, also has Excalibur etc but weaker
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>>286622490
no, this anime is
like what kinda asspull is ishtar?
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>>286622534
>Does Prince/King John make sense as a bootleg Richard
Doesn't Charlie already fit the description, even by accident?
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>>286622534
Magna Carta NP against King servants himself
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>>286622522
The original revelation lists Conquest, War, Famine and Death. Pestilence is nowhere there, it's basically a replacement introduced by pop culture. Thus pestilence is death, just another form of it.
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>>286622510
Merlin probably. That one has been teased for years so hopefully they don't fuck it up.
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>>286618926
Has Hippo done anything yet?
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>>286622558
She will fight Alcides again in the next episode.
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>>286618926
Has this show had any actually memorable moments?
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Where is she?
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>>286622020
Probably Velber too. The main harvest star I mean, not the cell that came to earth (Altera).
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>>286622020
Im not super familiar with the magic side, bur couldnt Aoko probably just send ORT to the future or something? Let them zoomers handle that shit.


Or better yet, she couldve used her magic to avert the awakening to begin with.
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>>286622615
In my bed
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>>286621442
>Kiara
Not a Beast
>Kama
Not a beast
>Vitch
Still not a Beast

None of them were ever full beasts. Also you're forgetting Bat-kun which was really fucking cool.
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>>286622020
>ORT is stronger than any other character we have seen in Fateverse and it's so not even close.
neko arc no diffs
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>>286622638
The ORT from the Lostbelt is baby play in comparison to a full power PHH ORT so we don't really know. Regardless pushing ORT into the future, if it would even work and not simply get nullified, wouldn't really count as beating ORT, but she probably could indeed prevent it from awakening.
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>>286622367
crazy how hard she mogs the rin version
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>>286622367
Any good porn of this form?
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>>286622781
Sexo Einzbern body is on a different dimension that curveless Tohsaka meatsack
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>>286622522
Death is too multifarious of a concept to be a singular existence, it's represented too many ways in too many cultures.
Death who rides a pale horse is the Christian aspect of Death. He "kills with sword, kills with hunger, kills with plague, and kills with wild beasts of the earth". As a Servant he is the conceptual manifestation of "Disease", the death that "rides" on men and wind and beast.
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>>286622742
>a full power PHH ORT
Did you just fart, mate?
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>>286622624
The core Velber's strength has never been analyzed. Only that it has hundreds of Anti-Cells all as powerful as Velber 02 (but each radically different down to the foundation of their existence).
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>>286622818
proper human history anon get with the program
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>>286622638
Aoko isn't from Fate.
If you include other TM works Arc can likely take ORT. Nasu considers her the strongest in the setting of Tsukihime Remake.
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>>286622809
So, Pale Rider could be summoned as a Saber or a Caster?
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>>286618926
Aren't Fate characters supposed to be history and myth figures? who tf is this nigga supposed to be?
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>>286622940
>So, Pale Rider could be summoned as a Saber or a Caster?
It is a False Rider. Don't expect a true functional summon to work with Death.
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>>286622985
He's not a servant, retard
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>>286623001
I don't watch crap so I wouldn't know
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>>286622615
I didn't even realize she had garter straps
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>>286621237
anon... Guinevere and Lancelot bonded over their love for Artoria in Fate
Both of them treat the other as Plan B since Artoria just didn't let them share her burdens
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>>286623012
You certainly do post crap, however.
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>>286623012
It's not crap. It actually has a lot of fans
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>>286622742
It's just another case of nasu oc that can be defeated, but it doesn't count, you only defeated 30% of the power or holding back.
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>>286623058
>French knight is gay for King Arthur
Bruh
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>>286623177
king arthur is woman tho
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>>286623205
being gay for a woman is a very french problem
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>>286622940
Death could be summoned as a different heroic spirit but I don't think Pale Rider can. It's just how Death manifests as a Rider. A Saber Death may take the form of Thanatos, Caster Death might take the shape of the Yama King or Hel, an Assassin Death might become the Grim Reaper, and a Berserker Death might look like Garmr or Camazotz (real). Who knows?
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>>286618926
I wish him and the Loli had better character traits than just Ledger's Joker. I'm too old for that shit. I'm ok with the rest of the show and its theatrics.
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>>286623205
He didn't know?
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FACT: if jetkek had been near-death'ed last episode, the collective reaction would just have been "oh, ok" and a shrug.
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>>286618926
I like him. Has nice expressions, a nice voice, a pleasant personality, cool powers, and he's handsome.
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>>286623256
Not love in romance sense, but as a king
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>>286618926
What does Dorothea look like?
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>>286623174
I don't mind it. It was still a good battle and it gets the nogging jogging, letting fans theorize about other Types.
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>>286621237
Artoria could fuck Morgan with her GIRTHY GIRLCOCK but couldn't fuck her own wife? She didn't fuck Lancelot, but did fuck a Nipponese teenager? Truly, Saber was some kind of an autist.
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Who the fuck is jetkek
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>>286623340
>he doesn't know about Type-MARS
Anon...
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>>286623349
Shirou has a small penis, making him more appealing to her.
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>>286623357
Speaking of Extra, OG Hakuno(n) was this close to have had at least one servant from each classes.
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>>286623350
Some brazillian that samefags his posts.
His hateboner for Gil is limitless and unrivaled.
He recently got banned for posting cuckshit FSF threads.
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>>286623386
>Saber
>Charlie, Nero
>Archer
>Nameless
>Caster
>Tamamo
>Foreigner
>Altera
>Gilgamesh
>Gilgamesh
Technically she has all of them except Avenger if you want to count gameplay.
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>>286623447
>Foreigner
>Altera
Bro what. Also don't forget the Berserker that existed before CCC Gil's route, 1nd that time she was temporarily stitched to Liz. So Hakuno(n) had Sabers, Archers, a Lancer, a Caster and a Berserker before Extella depending on the routes.
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>>286623447
And a master.
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>>286620410
Move Sigma to S-tier.
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>>286623516
That's illegal.
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>>286623447
>>286623386
You know what would be nice is if the gacha let you recruit masters seperately from servants and you could switch the character you control. The NPC masters could have their canon servants with their own seperate inventory and loadout. And what if you could control different characters throughout the campaign when every time the point of view shifts, like in fire emblem radiant dawn, you control different characters
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>>286623531
Did he become Lancer the Living Servant?
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>>286623516
A/ss/assin
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>>286623350
A spic who accidentally doxed himself during one of his tirades
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>>286623565
He is not even a real /ss/.
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Why is gil so fucking retarded
He is literally clairvoyant
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>>286623577
Only CasGil
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>>286623576
Fake Shota class, or should we call that Pretender?
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When you think about it, Sigma not being able to grow up sorta make him a Illya expy.
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What would Simon Belmont's class be
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>>286623628
Archer or Lancer since he mostly fight at range using his whip and sub weapons. Plus, classicvania is all about traversing a stage, so a more agile Archer is the most appropriate.
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>>286623577
He literally turns it off because otherwise he would always win and he prefers a fun fight. Yes, that is Nasu's reasoning.
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>>286623329
We don't know. Nasu called her "a small girl" in the prototype novel, but there's been no mention since then, and the prototype novel isn't precisely canon.
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>>286623577
Giving him clairvoyance makes his losses in FSN look even more retarded ngl
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>>286623504
Altera is labeled as Foreigner in OC3.
I'm just counting all the Servants she uses in FGO.
She has every class except Avenger otherwise.
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>>286623702
Nasu is such a fucking retard…
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>>286623724
It's already been stated that he saw Sakura gobble him up and think it's asinine.
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>>286623734
>I'm just counting all the Servants she uses in FGO.
No? I don't he/she had a Rider or an Assassin. Nor any of the Alter Egos or Extra classes.
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>>286622940
a scythe is a polearm, so lancer
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Unless a miracle happens FSF is on its way to somehow rank lower than Ap*crypha for me.
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>>286623763
>Rider
Medusa in Extella.
>Assassin
Li Shuwen. He taught the Hakunos wushu as shown in FGO.
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>>286623899
Why?
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>>286623628
Half the Castlevania protags have such varied movesets that it's probably one of those situations where a lot of them fit into a bunch of classes.
Simon in particular? Lancer, for the whip, and Archer, for all the sub-weapons. I imagine the Lancer form has the whip at max upgrades and able to hit all 8 direction like in Castlevania IV, but his sub-weapons are more mana intensive, weaker or maybe he can only choose to have one at a time. Archer's whip would be weaker, but he'd have no restrictions on sub-weapons. Golden Knife would likely be his main NP there.
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>>286623899
k keep us posted
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>>286623899
Based on anime or LNs? Because if you're going only anime, the Nothing Ever Happens gets worse from here.
>>286623953
IMO because Nothing Ever Happens. This author needs to learn how to let go of characters.
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>>286623981
Your value in "things happening" is a terrible metric to judge a story upon. Stories are more than a list of events.
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My Hero is a master of wit.
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>>286623953
Too many characters which ends up with none of them getting any development and coming off as caricatures.
Gil & friends + Herc feel shoehorned just to ride on the coattails of their fame while doing a terrible job of writing them.
Almost 0 servants are just a Heroic Spirit without some form of weird hack added for powerlevel autism (Death? really?).
Fights are lasers and ice-skating for the most part.
I also hate vampire indian joker + dumas but I don't really count those against the story too much.

>>286623981
Anime
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>>286624116
>Almost 0 servants are just a Heroic Spirit without some form of weird hack added for powerlevel autism (Death? really?).
It's as if the war is meant to be very strange, and kind of fake.
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>>286618926
Reminder the A rank Arondight is already enough to completely dispel attacks that cause damage as big as Gilgameme vs EnKEKdu's battle, with a mere casual, effortless swing of the sword. Berserkerlot's Arondight being 2 ranks higher than Saberlot's.
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>>286624116
Idk, I’ve been enjoying S/F far more than any other spinoff, besides the original F/SN of course
It’s cast feel like Apocrypha’s except done better in every way
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>>286624116
>Too many characters which ends up with none of them getting any development and coming off as caricatures.
There's plenty of development to go around in the novels. Too bad the anime's a hackjob.
>Gil & friends + Herc feel shoehorned just to ride on the coattails of their fame while doing a terrible job of writing them.
How exactly do you think Gil was done "terribly"?
>Almost 0 servants are just a Heroic Spirit without some form of weird hack added for powerlevel autism (Death? really?).
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse have every right to be heroic spirits. They're mythological figures, as substantial as Medusa.
>Fights are lasers and ice-skating for the most part.
Anime problems.
>I also hate vampire indian joker + dumas but I don't really count those against the story too much.
Hating Dumas means you've got the worst taste ITT.
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>>286624319
>The strongest RT shitter managed to dispel the attack of the second strongest RT shitter
Wow, maybe he would've been able to keep up with the Achilles-tier servants in SF like Hippolyta
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>>286623959
I feel like they would mainly be Archers, since all of that platforming can be interpreted as scooting around.
Alucard would be Rider, since his main gimmick is to transform to move around, on top of having many weapons.
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>jobs
>becomes more popular
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Gilgamesh would lose vs From Hell + Natural Born Killers. One copy of Demon Jack was tanking the GoB with its wings.
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>>286624484
One copy of Demon Jack got his body torn to shreds by Alcides with minimal effort.
Don't forget that GoB getting fired at Jack was anime OC
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no name assassin would lose to dick
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>>286624473
>second strongest RT shitter creates a crater as big as GoB + AoB + 2 Enuma Elishes at full power with just two NP activations
Any top 5 RT Knight would solo Strange Fake's war.
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>>286624530
>by Alcides
Yeah Alcides that just means Alcides is stronger.
>IT DOESN'T COUNT
kek so that doesn't count but Gilgamesh having Achilles Kosmos from Temu that break from one Hippolyta spear throw does?
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>>286624565
They'd at best be able to solo Wednesday. Although once you remember they're all retarded gooners she'd probably no-diff them
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>>286624530
>One copy of Demon Jack got his body torn to shreds by Alcides with minimal effort.
And got right the fuck back up and fully regenerated. He was sandbagging.
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>>286624603
I mean Gil has the prototype of Achilles Kosmos, but Kosmos is what it is because it conceptualizes Achilles' world after the fact, which Gil can't do. It's a prototype, after all
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>>286623899
Fate Apocrypha was pretty fucking good thoughbeit? I frequently rewatch the fight scenes in 4k
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>>286624629
Gil shouldn't have Divine Constructs but hey if you count that I can count Jack tanking GoB. So Gil can't beat Berserker Jack.
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>>286624643
>thoughbeit
fuck off, sharteen
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>>286624607
Galatine's damage caused has been more impressive than anything shown in the SF anime so far lol.
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>>286624653
Gil has plenty of divine constructs, they're just stuff he collected personally instead of stuff given to him for free by the crystallization of mythology.
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>>286624686
A single arrow from Alcides nuked a mountain off of the map, and it wasn't even an invoked NP. That alone mogs any feats of power by the RT
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>>286622624
>>286622020
>>286622638
>The only possible thing that could stop ORT is maybe Chaos but we know absolutely nothing about him so.
Chaos was defeated by a cut from Musashi and didn't even come back, Ort wins
Velber was defeated by just a human using Excalibur, didn't come back
Aoko would have to be close to Ort to use her magic, and while she is a strong mage, she would die before activating it

ORT is specifically a secret kind of last boss that cannot be defeated. Batman won because all his people made him superimmortal by sacrificing their life in his name and had a prolonged battle that lasted who knows how many years just to take him down once, but Ort was still going to revive eventually even without Daybit interference and even after batman took his heart out. This is version Chaldea defeated.
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>>286624707
>Chaos was defeated by a cut from Musashi
Musashi cut the gate Chaos opened, she didn't do anything to Chaos itself
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>>286624481
I certainly think all the Belmonts, if not all the protagonists, would have Archer as an option, but it's one of those cases like with Artoria. Sure, Lancer, Rider (and Berserker, somehow; never understood that one) for her just fine, but she's best suited to Saber by virtue of Excalibur being so widely known and thus all but guaranteed to manifest in that class.
The Belmonts would all default to Lancer because the Vampire Killer is so intrinsic to their identity; Archer is still an available option, but it'd be extremely unlikely to get at random.
On the Alucard thing, yeah, Rider's probably his default and most versatile class, but I wouldn't rule out Saber and Caster as possibilities.
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>>286624707
>Chaos was defeated by a cut from Musashi and didn't even come back, Ort wins
Japanese swordsmanship solos Ort
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>>286624734
WTF anon you can't post gore on /a/
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>>286624733
Yeah, but Item Crashes would make Archer Belmont extremely OP. Especially Richter's, dude can summon a holy water rain.
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>Gil & Enkidu 2v1 Gugalanna
>Alcides SOLO Gugalanna

And you call this alcides fraud??
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>>286623577
He saw his defeat and said
>fake news
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>>286624884
How many times do you have to be told that summoned beings are not the same as their originals? Also I don't remember Gilgamesh and Enkidu particularly struggling with Gugalanna.
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>>286623577
How do you know he didn't use clairvoyance?
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>>286623577
I honestly think that Gil is just tired of getting summoned and just wants to end it in the most stupidest way possible so that in the future he wouldnt be summoned because of the whole jobbing reputation.
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>>286624422
>How exactly do you think Gil was done "terribly"?
He was acting like a jester with his Master and being extremely lenient against his enemies. Gil is shown time and time again to be extremely ruthless over the slightest perceived offense against him.
There's no way in hell he would just beat up Richard and fuck off after he not only got cocky with him but started using his treasures against him.
There's absolutely no way in hell he would fail to sense Ishtar and notBabbage and to think that the first could actually enact any authority on his own vault is laughable, fake key or not.
Considering that he felt that something actually dangerous was involved in the war and having the duel with his only friend to look forward to, there's 0 chance he would drop his guard low enough for all that to peek through.
>They're mythological figures, as substantial as Medusa.
Leaving aside the use of Christian "Mythos", which is laughable. Medusa was a mortal born of this world and properly recorded, her aspect that is called as a servant by the tainted grail may be an anti-hero but is still a vestige of humanity. Death is a natural concept that has nothing to do with humanity. Death would still exist even without humans to observe it, while other conceptual servants like Nursery Rhyme are products of humanity and as such are acceptable. Even shoving our heads deep enough in our ass to consider the riders as mythological figures, their divinity would be extremely high.
The concept that the main families while doing their best to skew the rules in their favor would summon stuff like a barely controllable Zercules and Arthur, while others that kinda copy a lesser form of the ritual have dogs summoning divine spirits is already leaking out of its ass.
>Dumas
Every single writer servant does the exact same boring thing, I don't see how also making him a chinpira is interesting either but again, matter of taste.
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How I sleep every day knowing my goats aren't frauds.
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>>286623577
I know it was baked into his character since forever but Gilgamesh being a clairvoyant (and one of the top 3 best) is one of the most random things Nasu ever gave him
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>>286624704
Can't destroy building
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>>286624707
>ORT is specifically a secret kind of last boss that cannot be defeate
It's outright stated it's possible to defeat it through raw power. It's never once stated to be invincible. Case in point:
>Batman won
Is all you need to know.
>and had a prolonged battle that lasted who knows how many years
There is no mention it took years.
>but ORT was still going to revive
It still lost though. Ultimate Ones cannot permanently die since they lack the concept of death. But physical destruction is still able to fuck them up, in ORT's case if it's destroyed it won't reactivate for millions of years.
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It's over
I've lost the Holy Grai War to a fucking schizo
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>>286624707
Anon, don't you know Lancelot can solo him? More seriously, ORT is there as a cap on powerlevel faggotry.
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>>286624704
Alcides arrow failed to harm the shields that Hippolyta spear throw broke lol. Also that same arrow was blocked by a casual throw of a random spear from Richard. Meanwhile Gawain NP makes craters as big as the Enuma Elish clash and Arondight erases that attack with a casual swing.
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>>286624697
Yeah and where the fuck did he collect Kosmos that was made after his death?
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>>286618926
>gilgamesh job again
ffs
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>>286618926
I want Ishtar to rape me.
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>>286625442
Black Barrel literally sent Type Venus to an eternal slumber lol. The original Black Barrel is not even a NP, the Replica amped to the category of NP should clear it.
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>>286625728
I want to rape Ishtar and not text her back
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>>286625012
>I honestly think that Gil is just tired of getting summoned
Especially since originally he was meant to be summoned in times of dire need. Imagine if you are the National Guard and every week you get called to rescue cats out of trees. It isn't even you damn job.
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>>286625789
>eternal slumber
Not really true. Venus could move her main body any time she wanted, but since she acquired a conscience through V/V she decided not to.
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>>286626032
Each individual summoning of a servant does not have memories of other summonings. EMIYA may be discluded from this as he is a counter guardian.
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>>286626108
I remember seeing that every instance's summoning gets recorded at the Throne. So while they don't retain their memories maybe they can just read about it like a book or something.
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>>286626266
Maybe that is a newer thing in the extended canon. I only read f/sn and watched fg0 and f/a
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>>286626108
>Each individual summoning of a servant does not have memories of other summonings.
It doesn't change the fact that he justifiably feel the grail wars itself is beneath him. One has to wonder if he should have answered the call at all, if he knew it was for something meaningless.
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>>286624707
Most points valid except the thing about Chaos. Musashi closed the gate to Chaos's dimension which was opened by Zeus blowing up. Zeus was already stated to be practically omnipotent, and Chaos was so much stronger that Chaldea instantly gave up upon seeing it.

Anyway, yeah ORT's radiation field is insanely strong, if I recall correctly, master was like 5km away from ORT, inside the Shadow Border, and being protected by Mash and the spirit code, and still got severe radiation sickness after the fight was done. If Aoko relies on getting close she better be rad immune (or immune to ORT blasting her from afar to begin with)
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She will only mana transfer with you if you convert to Islam, would you convert?
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>>286626030
That's why you got wrecked last episode, Gil.
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>>286621783
There are things Nasu simply doesn't let him use. Originally Watcher was going to be Shielder, for instance. Nasu ended up using the Gatekeeper class on Galahad in FGO.
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>>286626415
I mean both times he was summoned with a catalyst. Doesn't bypass the requirement of the servant needing to answer the call?
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>FGO
Wrong board. >>>>>/vg/
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>>286626752
I don't think there's a way to force a servant to answer the call. The catalyst just improves your chances of your call reaching the correct servant, the rest is up to them. Gil is probably bored to death so he just keeps answering to pass the time.
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>>286626869
>pass the time
>in the timeless infinity that is outside of time that is the throne of heros.
I'm not even sure if spirits "live" in the throne like some afterlife. I figure it's some kind of quasi stasis. Any material out there that says otherwise?
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is gil really dead?
what kind of fate is we go past half the season and a not a single contestant is out of the cup yet?
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So where's Arcueid while all of this is happening?
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Double Summon is so fucking stupid and I'm glad Nasu went "uhh, it's more common in modern Extra classes like Gunner and absurdly rare in any other situation, don't worry about it"
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>>286626510
>would you convert?
On the spot.
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Can Jester turn servants into dead apostles?
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>>286627274
Doing amwf activities with an anemic
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>>286627254
fate zero la
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>>286627254
>is gil really dead?
Servants dissipate when they die. This has always been the case in Fate.
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>>286627100
It's contradictory. We have the Japanese Servants who've had some kind of post-life cooking thing with Benedict Enema, but Beni is also kind of weird because she's an active warden of hell. FGO has a lot of sloppy writing moments because it's simply so large. Then we have Jeanne struggling to find Sieg for an eternity and managing to manifest herself in the asshole of the world somehow.
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>>286627274
She was probably never born here.
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>>286627100
Not sure about any materials but logic dictates that if a time of calling exists, then the reverse also holds true. Otherwise it could be that the only time their consciousness stirs is when receiving a call so it probably depends on their mood.
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>>286626828
Sorry you are 10 years to late
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>>286627614
sex with beni
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>>286623510
Why are Hakunon and Gudako so erotic
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>>286627638
If the throne is outside of time, then all callings past, present, and future have already occurred within the throne
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>>286624483
Blondies mogging
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>>286627889
they just are. That character design is just insane

(pic from a shitty almost porn isekai with NotGudako and NotBob as main harem party. Sex is shown)
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>>286628057
Wrong heights, haram as fuck
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>>286628130
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>>286621021
Having a character who is canonically stronger than Gil would be fun.
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>>286628263
>ginger Japanese highschooler
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>>286627937
It's not a matter of the throne but a matter of how consciousness works. Even if each call is perceived simultaneously in a single moment across all of a servant's instances, it's often said by servants that they pondered about answering the call, so perceived time exists. Depending on how you see things, time is a convenience for the observer since everything has already happened.
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>>286628414
Where's Lip?
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>>286624938
>Also I don't remember Gilgamesh and Enkidu particularly struggling with Gugalanna.
NTA but you're right. Huwawa was the one they struggled with plus needed the help of a God to overcome.
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>>286628440
I think the concepts delivered by the authors are an incoherent mess then
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>>286627709
>No Gourmand Skill
Dumas can beat her in a cooking contest
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>>286628574
Why is everyone in this anime so CUTE
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Genuinely what is clay boy doing. He can stop hyper sonic attacks from the other side of the world right before they hit Gil, but doesn't help at all in the alliance that he made why
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>>286621021
>have a living snake cock, but your ballsack isn't protected by scales
>keep getting bitten in the balls

Suffering
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>>286627447
>Can Jester turn servants into dead apostles?
Servants are artificial constructs, not actual humans. They are also not technically alive. I guess once Astolfo become a physical human again that he is vulnerable to being Turned. But then he isn't a Servant anymore.
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>>286629065
Imagine human astolfo taking hrt meds lol
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>>286628998
>Genuinely what is clay boy doing. He can stop hyper sonic attacks from the other side of the world right before they hit Gil, but doesn't help at all in the alliance that he made why
The situation isn't desperate enough yet. In this show it seems Narita is having fun coming up with new apocalyptic scenarios that just kept getting WORSE.
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>>286629095
>Imagine human astolfo taking hrt meds lol
Whatever floats your boat in your headcanon, but Astolfo is perfectly happy where he is.
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Fate would be better in a Record of Ragnarok format, just two beings duking it out, no outside interference or plot armor fuckery.
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>>286628998
Episode 0 showed Enkidu was somewhat scared(?) of False Rider and considering the entire thing is going down next to False Rider's master, I assume he doesn't want to catch its attention
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>>286629269
>RoR
>no outside interference or plot armor fuckery
Anon I
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>>286629210
>Yeah, we straight
>Keep scrolling
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>>286628998
His alliance was fighting Gil. He already told Richard that he will have to step up against Gil and their little fight was barely a test. Richard fought goldie and got his ass gaped. You expected Enkidu to walk up right next to his natural enemy and then piss off Gil by breaking up the duel for no reason?
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Is that... the common cold?! AAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE SAVE ME GILGAMEME-DONO
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>>286629235
Where is he?
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>>286629269
So, motherfucker beating another motherfucker for 3 to 6 months before moving on to another duo? Trash.
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>>286629294
Did they rape that basic story somehow? Record of Ragnarok was just powerlevel fantasy, whoever had to die just died.
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>>286629316
>Where is he?
Being a guy who likes to wear women's clothing. I don't know why anyone assume he would want to chop anything off. If he wanted to be a girl, he probably could have wished for it when he got his new human body in Apocrypha. He did not, so he is not.
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>>286629305
>got his ass gaped
Gilgajobber couldn't even hit Richard without attacking Ayaka.
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>>286629337
Obviously only for the first batch, the later rounds being winners vs winners.
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>>286629276
Enkidu really wants nothing to do with Rider. His master's only wish is to live because it's an animal and confronting Rider threatens that.
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>>286629466
>hrt means chopping the peepee off
Lmao anon...
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>>286625024
So why does the fake Ayaka considered herself to be Red riding hood instead of being the chick who merged with the fairy? I mean, she is currently a flesh and blood human being right?
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>>286629618
Lesbo A gave herself to Riding Hood for her own selfish wish. Ayaka is basically a new existence.
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>>286628574
>Ryukendo
Holy...
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>>286629618
>the chick who merged with the fairy
what?
>>286629724
>Lesbo A
what? May I ask what are you guys talking about?
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>>286629814
Don't spoil yourself. Those guys should be using spoiler tags
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>>286628497
In the trash where she belongs.
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>>286629724
She called herself red riding hood in the latest volume though
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>>286621021
I thought Humbaba's forest was in Lebanon?
also check out "Back to the Cedar Forest" for the latest addition to that part of the epic, where Humbaba is a chill forest hippy with a band of monkey musicians
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>>286624938
Depending on what story they might have. Nasu has retconned the epic at least 3 times at this point but we know that Ishtar+Gugalanna cant beat Gilgamesh+Enkidu.
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>>286621156
>Is the Humbaba of fate supposed to be different from the one in the Epic of Gilgamesh?
In the Epic he's like bigfoot, in Fate she's a giant mech built by gods who are some sort of super advanced time-manipulating weirdos doing sci-fi stuff
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>>286630042
It's the North Pole.
https://youtu.be/r3tWCH--2mU?si=igpWMrej9fJly2pJ
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Will we ever see him animated?
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>By my Command Spell
>Review every chapter of Sonic's Ultimate Harem
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>>286630231
Shakespeare wrote teenager smut, he's no saint.
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>>286630225
I expect we get a cameo of him some time this season
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>>286630225
He should be teased in the next couple episodes, but I assume we won't see him for a couple years for whenever S2 comes out.
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>>286627889
Plain cute girls a cute.
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>>286630225
>Huge cgi atrocity that stomps at nothing and just makes a laser lightshow like every single servant does but bigger
Why
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>>286630225
Did Alcides tame that?
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>>286631030
He keeps attacking it until ishtar bites it, weakening it enough to land a fatal blow and reincarnation pandora it. Probably the biggest waste in strange fake by far
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>>286631222
So, did Alcides tame it or absorb its power?
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>>286630231
>>Shakespeare is bald in all likely historical portraits
>full head of hair in FSF
Sometimes it’s okay to break from history.
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>>286631284
The novel states that Alcides could have absorbed the bull's power to complete his body, thus neutralizing the poison and becoming a kind of Typhon capable of matching Zeus and destroying the country in an instant, but because of his hatred for the gods, he only uses it as a zombie mount and controls lightning. Bazdilot can also control lightning.
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>>286631475
>The novel states that Alcides could have absorbed the bull's power to complete his body
Pretty much guaranteed to do it in his battle with Alter Gilgamesh since he's keeping it as a mount.
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>>286631850
Alter gil was compared to Zeus so it's definitelly happening
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>all this weird shit that's gonna happen
Can't wait for the shitposting.
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Gilfags... Name every single one
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>>286632497
I eagerly await all the shitposting that will come once Spooky starts killing politicians
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>>286632497
Wesker-sama is so cool
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>>286632681
Shouldn't that happen soon. That's a volume 5 scene iirc
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So what exactly does it mean to be Francesca's favourite...
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>>286633543
So sad she died of Sigma
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>>286633637
Who the hell is Maya Hisau?
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>>286633707
kiritsugu's sidepiece
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>>286633543
It means that she fucks the shit out of sigma
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>>286633707
Maid from Tuskihime
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>>286633837
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>>286621652
Explain to me why he shouldn't be an assassin class
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>>286634105
He is the pale rider, he is not really stealthy
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I love the Dax.
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>>286633543
It's a variation of 'I can fix him', but more along the lines of 'I can do whatever I want with him'
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>>286634171
Death sneaks up on everyone m8
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>>286633933
Sigma was under her care even before she became a woman so he most likely got played with in both ways
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>>286634427
Sigma can't be true Lancer because he clearly has EX ranked luck
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>>286634427
Prelati is a power bottom
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>>286629675
damn Ayaka is stacked
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>>286634563
No she isn't
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>>286618926
>jestermaxxing
>best character
:^)
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Do you think this scene will be animated in the next episode, or will they cut it again?
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>>286635097
If they cut Hyppolita again what the fuck's the point of even including her?
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>>286635243
Rin wank
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Honest thoughts on our protagonist?
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>>286635567
Thats not a picture of jester.
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>>286635567
She cute.
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>>286635567
fat
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>>286635567
She cucked Richard's wife but in turn got cucked by the FGO MC which
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>>286635567
That's not Richard
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Gil is a wonderful person inside and out
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>>286635567
small fairy child who got mind fucked into thinking she was Ayaka in the most contrived way possible

I can still barely comprehend it
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>>286618926
this anime is all over the place.
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>>286635773
>Calls Ayaka his favorite Master without even remembering her and gives Guda a pity "Oh, you are about the same, I guess"
Sis...
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>>286635567
mc self insert
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>>286618926
The whole Fate franchise is ass. Everything after Stay Night is at best a 4/10 story.
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>>286635567
Trick question

She's not the protagonist which is way more obvious in the novels
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>>286636003
Which is ironic because FSN is a 2/10 at best
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>>286636035
>>286635567
Sincere question, I didn't read the novels but doesn't Sigma fit all the bulletpoints for a fate protagonist?
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>>286633707
Sigma balls
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>>286635567
I want her to get a true American body.
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>>286636318
He does but the fact that he isn't is what makes him work.
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>>286635567
I need to draw erotic art of her sometime
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>>286636318
Narita doesn't believe in peotaganists
Instead he schizophrenically changes viewpoints every five minutes between every single character
The main character is kinda the narrative itself as it devolves into controlled chaos
The viewer just watches things slowly collide into each other as you watch them come together in slow motion

Tell me who the protagonist of baccano was? Narita typically believes in the theory of 100 different protaganists
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>>286636538
Hypocritical sperg
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>>286636318
I saw some people who complained about him because he seems like Sieg from Apocrypha, but as an anime-only and keeping the Apocrypha example, to me so far he feels more like the nerd guy who summoned the Frankenstein monster, a supporting character with some moments of spotlight but not yet the main chara.
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>>286636538
His master mogs him so hard it's not even funny
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>>286636538
I genuinely cannot comprehend the people who complain about him. He's fun as hell.
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>>286636686
We were deprived of sane Herc kino
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>>286634520
>Be a child soldier
>Then Francesca fuck toy (she was male at the time)
>Instead of summoning a proper servant, he summon absolute bullshit that wants him to do the work
So far his luck is shit.
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>>286635097
I prefer see this flashback adapted.
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>>286636686
Literally nobody has ever asked for Alcider/Heracles Alter. Just like how literally nobody asked for whatever the FUCK that grand berserker abomination is in the gay gacha.
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>>286632497
So, if I remember correctly, we're going to get true assassin killing politicians, Flat getting 360 no scoped and android Gilgamesh?
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>>286636538
I like him because he's funny to clown and also gave us another big clown Gil moment. I don't like he stole Jack's NP and turned him into a bum tho.
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>>286636819
>gave us another big clown Gil moment
But he did nothing? It was all Ishtar?
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so uhh i haven't been spoiled and never read the manga or LNs, but what is going on anymore. Who's Ishtar? Can you drop me a hint? Heres my notes so far just from the show:

FAKES:

archer-gilgamesh-Indian Girl
assassin-mask baddie??-vampire
rider???-fog???-sick kid Tsubaki
berserker-jack the ripper-Flag
caster-Dumas-Orlando
lancer-enkidu-wolf



TRUES:
saber-Lionheart-Ayaka
archer/avenger-heracles-mobster
(assassin?)-puppet???-Faldeus
rider-hippolyta-???
Caster??????-herself??-Francesca
berserker??-triskelion??-blue dress girl hali vorzak
lancer/watcher-multiples(ahab?)-kid soldier


That doesn't leave any room for Ishtar unless she's merged with Heracles?
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>>286636538
less offensive than the MC and her fake King Arthur. His Master is the real MVP in this duo.
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>>286636881
>Who's Ishtar
Read a book, dumb nigger.
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>>286618926
I want to rape Reinhard.
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>>286636881
Goddess, or rather a clone of that goddess via a curse, in the body of a homonculus.
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>>286636906
Calm down, Kircheis
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>>286636923
ok but why did they say "the grail can summon something like this" If shes not a servant? But theres no room for another servant
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>>286636538
Cool guy, proactive, neat abilities, understandable personality and goals. Effective villain, can't really complain.
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>>286636731
>Be a child soldier
fair
>Then Francesca fuck toy (she was male at the time)
Not a bad thing
>Instead of summoning a proper servant, he summon absolute bullshit that wants him to do the work
He never wanted the grail so it doesn't matter and Watcher so far has been one of the most broken servants in the war thanks to his intel gathering
>about to score no name assassin
He has been more lucky than not so far
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>>286636945
Because the curse is unrelated to the grail war. It triggered when Gil and his buddy met again.
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>>286636960
>about to score no name assassin
>When he is no muslim
Wait, that's heretical.
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>>286636978
Ok thanks. I mean i still dont get it at all but at least I didn't miss anything in the show it seems.
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>>286636538
>Anons say Alcides is cool
Alcides rejects this: >>286636759
he is the worst character because of it.
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>>286634105
For all we know there's a version of Death that is an assassin
There's also probably one that's Caster, who'd just look like the straight up reaper
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>>286634105
Muslim own this class.
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>>286636881
She's not a servant, she's a Babylonian goddess that materialized because she hates Gilgamesh
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>>286636536
Firo.
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>>286637590
any other plot devices gonna materialize later?
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>>286637745
>any other plot devices gonna materialize later?
Narita clearly is trying to have as many variations of Fate supernatural beings possible in the story in one go as he can squeeze in.
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>>286637745
>>286637835
Tsubaki is host to the alien bacteria that is an Aztec Goddess
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>>286637981
I don't know if you're joking but I'll sure as hell pretend that you are.
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>>286638034
>I don't know if you're joking but I'll sure as hell pretend that you are.
Wait until you see what Flat can REALLY do.
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>>286637981
Are all gods aliens?
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>>286638500
Just the non-white ones kek
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>>286620361
Maybe all the CSM meltdown threads will push this one to page 10.
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>>286638193
I know about Thia. What I was replying to is much worse.
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>>286636731
>Then Francesca fuck toy (she was male at the time)
That was three years ago. I bet she tried that new body of hers on Sigma the moment she got it.
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>>286638646
A few of them are but not all of them
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>>286638034
haha...
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Faldeus' operation in snowfield will bring the situation under control.
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>>286636960
>Then Francesca fuck toy (she was male at the time)
>Not a bad thing
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>>286638733
Prelati x Sigma slice of life is a funny idea.
Probably could be a sketch on the strange Fake Carnival we're never gonna get.
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>>286638697
Anon, greek gods are /m/echa. In fact, the original F/SN tease this via the technorganic look of various greek monsters.
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>>286638865
>Faldeus' operation in snowfield will bring the situation under control.
Hmm, nyo. I am causing a new gas leak at your location as you speak. Blame this on the misfortune of your birth f*ldeus
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>>286639124
Greek gods are very /m/echa
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>>286639124
I know about the lore. I'm talking about Tsubaki.
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>>286638865
Faldeus....
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>>286638865
Doesn't he just send his servant to kill the USAs poltical opponents i dont think that will solve anything.
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>>286639185
If Lev can win against gods and monsters with a single bomb, then so can Faldeus with a few missiles.
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>>286639342
He didn't meant to. It was a oopsie.
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>>286639342
Its honestly funny how incompetent he is, his assassin has EX rank concealment and he knows the location of every master. This grail war should be over in 2 nights.
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alcidesbros, is this true? is our hero a fraud?
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Narita said the protagonists are Tine, Ayaka and Sigma
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>>286639494
It's just Tine coping
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>>286638865
Anon, Faldeus...
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>>286628163
That's their LN heights, the anime is suddenly inconsistent with their heights
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>>286639504
Sigma what?
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>>286639494
no
gilfags are lying
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>>286639494
Yes, and don't expect truth out of cuckcides/jetkeks as they can't read anyway, it's a miracle they can navigate to this board to begin with.
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>>286633543
How would Prelati feel she’s getting cheated on?
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>Sigma and Zealot are both like by weird psychopathic transexuals
Made for each other
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>>286639595
She can probably get off on it, desu.
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>>286639610
I don't recall, is Ishtar dead by the time Gil returns?
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>>286639595
Why is my boy so small kek
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>>286639671
Yes
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>>286639342
Not the US's political opponents HIS political oppositions. His superior asks him later on about it because a bunch of his advisories and those who oppose his political position started dying in mass across the country within hours.
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>>286639494
He aimed at the church where Ayaka was because he couldn't hit Richard due to his speed and experience. As for Alcides they were equally matched until Ishtar showed up. Gil would have most likely won those encounters though unless he decides to fuck around for no reason.
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>>286640001
He never aimed for anything but Richard. Enkidu devoured his Excaliblasts and launched itself at him. Richard was the one standing in front of the church so he had to take the blow instead of dodging.

How is this anyone but Richard's fault? Either Richard underestimated the situation, was cornered into staying at the church, or he deadass forgot.
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>>286639342
No, it was specifically to kill the leader of the Scradio mafia, but then it turned out that a whole bunch of US politicians and business leader had their personality overwritten with said mafia don, so Spooky just killed them too.
Will we get the scene of Spooky killing Galvarosso this season? I loved that one.
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>>286618926
>Jester is the best character in this series
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>>286640001
It was clear he was gonna win both fights until Ishtar closed the gates. Alcides was also dying to the hydra poison, so he would have been destroyed by Gil.
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>>286639595
She would unironically sit on the cuck chairs and masturbate happily next to a seething Jester.
>>286639703
Due to some magical experiments his body remains forzen in a child like state up until a cartain point where he will age super quickly and die.
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>>286640123
It wasn't clear. In the LN all we know is that Gilgamesh could have countered Nine Lives. Then the fight ends.

It's only clear when volume 7 confirms that whatever he would have done would indeed have led to Alcides' loss.
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>>286636686
he would be if Narita allowed him to kill anyone
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Now that the dust has settled, we can all admit that Gil actually won.
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>>286623427
You could say that he has an Unlimited Hate Works :D
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>>286623427
I'm brazillian and I love all the versions of Gil, he is fun can't imagine hating him
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>>286640321
In the Brazilian dub of DEEN fsn, Gilgamesh is voiced by Bejita
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Didn't Gilgamesh kill humbaba in the epic? Why did he job so hard here?
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>>286640417
He was genuinely flabbergasted about all the bullshit that showed up.
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>>286640417
Because Ishtar closed the gate at the worst moment possible? Did you not watch the episode?
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>>286640445
>his bro Enkidu showed up
>that (hot) whore Ishtar showed up
>that fucker humbaba also shows up
I would job too, that's too much bullshit in a week
>>286640371
It's been years since I listened to the brazilian dub, last time was when I was watching inuyasha for the old times a couple of months back
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>>286636721
No, I get that complaint. Even if it's mistaken, since we were never gonna get sane Herc.

>>286636781
>Literally nobody has ever asked for Alcider/Heracles Alter
Even assuming that's true, are you saying you complain about everything you didn't personally ask for?
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>>286640417
It was Gil and Enkidu together (and I'm assuming Enkidu did all the work considering Gil can't even fight a japanese highschooler).
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>>286640658
So many people have wanted to see the real sane herc as a fate character. Literally one of the most asked for characters, at least by power level fags, that Nasu refuses to ever deliver on. Even when Nasu himself would be okay with other writers doing it, you get people like Narita who both absolutely do not want to step on his toes and just have to put their own spin on it.
People ask for true Heracles, instead they get Alcides with a paper bag over his head or whatever the fuck the soulless trash in pic related is supposed to be.
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>(I swear) by the life of my mother Ninsumuna and of my father, holy Lugalbanda:
>Because no one knows your mountain dwelling, to make your mountain dwelling famous,
I> will bring you Enmebaragesi, my elder sister, to be your wife in the mountains."
>Once again (Gilgamesh) spoke to him:
>(I swear) by the life of my mother Ninsumuna and of my father, holy Lugalbanda:
>Because no one knows your mountain dwelling, to make your mountain dwelling famous,
>I will bring you Peshtur, my little sister, to be your concubine in the mountains;
>So hand me your protective sheens; I want to become a member of your family!
>seems to portray Humbaba as lonely and gullible.
>Humbaba accepts Gilgamesh’s proposal, and offers him his auras, which are described as cedar-like and possible to cut into logs for transport.
>As soon as he gives up on the last of the auras and loses his invulnerability, Gilgamesh strikes him.[39] After being punched in the face, he pleads to be let go.[44] He first addresses Utu, lamenting that he never knew his parents and was instead raised by the sun god himself and by the mountains,[c] and then Gilgamesh, who at first takes pity on him.[50] He asks Enkidu if he agrees to let Humbaba go, but he rejects this proposal.[51] Humbaba turns towards him, and complains that he has no place to advise on such matters because he is only a servant:
>In response, Enkidu cuts his throat. He then cuts off his head and places it in a leather bag.
What a cunt.
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>>286640417
>>286640694
Gil and Enkidu also received help from a God when fighting Humbaba in the Epic.
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>>286640694
>>286641031
All of this is wrong, it's Gilgamesh who decides to fight him when Enkidu was giving up, and they do not receive any help from any god. Only in the incomplete second version, which we have no ending to, does that happen.
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>>286639383
Lev is Grand Bomber, Faldeus can't compare
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>>286640694
>>286641031
It doesn't matter. They're the ones who killed it. Humbaba gained a conceptual disadvantage to them. It would have gotten smoked in a fight then. Although between it, Ishtar, and Alcides, Gilgamesh never had a chance.
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Is it just me or is Tiné getting hotter with each passing episode?
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>>286622831
I was really busy gawking at Ayaka to realize Richard wearing the same thing. Fuck you.
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>>286641066
>All of this is wrong
The part about Gil being unable to fight a japanese highschooler isn't.
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>>286641134
>Although between it, Ishtar, and Alcides, Gilgamesh never had a chance.
Without the key, they'd have lost regardless. That's the reason Ishtar used the key, she'd love nothing more than to beat Gilgamesh down with her own hands but she can't, even with help.

I guess Gil can't use Ea due to the threat of Alcides stealing it (possibly), but Ishtar would be out of the fight in a second, Enkidu (the chains) would absolutely wreck her shit with little effort required.
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The entire UBW is so effective against Gil that Gil actually monologued about being pressed, and literally, "had NO other choice other than taking Ea out" is so fucking jarring when it is also stated to be completely useless against other Servants
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>>286641183
You've been seething about Gilgamesh since Zero aired 15 years ago. This is not healthy.
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>>286641066
The "reciving help from a god" one is specifically canon in Fate
>Blinded by the radiance of the Hero King, Tine forgot something.
>There was a beast the king feared.
Huwawa.
>The guardian of the cedar forest. >Alternatively spelled Humbaba.
>A monster that Gilgamesh and Enkidu only managed to defeat with god Shamash's assistance in the Epic.
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>>286640981
Ancient people had no chill
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>>286641142
She's 12
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>>286641419
Tell me how that is seethe, anon. Have I disrespected him? Or do you think it's incorrect to say that he was unable fight Shirou?
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>>286641497
out of child
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kinda surprised that Hengist and Horsa haven't shown up at all in fate yet
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>>286636945
Because Jester was talking about Humbaba

Its not super obvious but that sound you hear in the background throughout that scene is meant to be Humbaba singing, just like Enkidu's song at the start of the anime.
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>>286641066
>Blinded by the radiance of the Hero King, Tine forgot something.
>There was a beast the king feared.
>Huwawa.
>The guardian of the cedar forest. Alternatively spelled Humbaba.
>A monster that Gilgamesh and Enkidu only managed to defeat with god Shamash’s assistance in the Epic.
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>>286641453
isnt strange fake's lore specifically different from others? like there's a change in troy's history, and enkidu's flashback clearly contradicts ccc
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>>286636945
i fucking knew the anime would make people think Jester was talking about Ishtar. Episode 10 is a terrible adaptation. He was talking about Huwawa
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>>286641242
>Enkidu (the chains) would absolutely wreck her shit with little effort required.
Ishtar can just charm space, the dirt, or the air to counter the chains.
Gil ain't beating her without a fight.
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>>286641646
People seem to think Ishtar is weak because of Ishtarin's flopping. She's still weaker than Gil and Enkidu, but she's no joke to them.
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>>286641555
They made Vortigern and Uther brothers which shafted Ambrosius/Aurelius, they'd make Hengist and Horsa horse people
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>>286640694
It was both of them, if anything Enkidu was the only one hesitating since Humbaba was Enkidu's childhood friend from before he became humanized. (This is actually canon since they found a new epic of gilgamesh tablet a few years back)

Humbaba is a "prototype" human made by the gods, except all they did was shove 10,000 souls together into a twisted existence that did nothing but scream and feel pain, and they went "Yeah that looks human". One of the personalities managed to remain sane, a young girl. Her and Enkidu got along way back in the day; by the time Enkidu returned to the garden he assumed she had finally gone mad, and was ready to put her down. Although he couldn't help but wonder about the crown of flowers the monster wore upon its head, a momento from a long time ago perhaps

Here's the first version of the fight from Fate/Zero materials, back before TM decided that FSF would indeed be the canon Enkidu design
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What if Season 2 is volumes 7-9 and Volume 10 gets a movie. Would skipping all the stuff in the first half to give later stuff time to breathe be worth it?
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>>286641781
Man this image is something
The most shocking part is actually the way Gil is dressed
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>>286641781
This is the "updated" official design depicting what happened that day

You can see Humbaba's new design in the background

Babylonian gods aren't mechs, Humbaba just became a mech because in whatever era its summoned in, its appearance changes based on what current humanity sees as a calamity. Since it only exists as a catastrophe and nothing else
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If you want to see all the hot Humbaba lore in current Fate, I'm afraid you're going to have to read FGO. Narita goes into detail about it in Enkidu's second interlude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e33gJ9fNb_o

>Did he seriously write a 40 minute interlude about
yes
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>>286641827
I think the first half of SF is more entertaining than the second half. So no, I'd say shafting the former for the latter was not worth it.
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Question, did Francesca give Haruri a Mazda Lamp to see if a shitty artifact would work and to see what would happen if an unsuitable berserker was summoned or was Haruri dumb enough to think a Lamp would work when summoning Berserker?
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>>286641923
Is this the interlude that also alluded to Prelati in Chaldea?
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>>286641646
No, the chains are specifically a very hard counter against divinity. If any divine being could just use its powers to stop them, they wouldn't be much of a counter. Any being with divinity will have powers it could use to stop a physical chain from reaching them, but the chains are a counter anyway for a reason.
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>>286641989
The chains have literally only ever been used on musclebound retards charging at Gil in a straight line, and one of those retards managed to break the chains. It's still just a fucking chain that can be dodged like any other chain, especially if the target knows that Gil has it.
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>>286642022
>The chains have literally only ever been used on musclebound retards charging at Gil in a straight line,
But this has no bearing on how they work.
>It's still just a fucking chain that can be dodged like any other chain, especially if the target knows that Gil has it.
Completely wrong on all accounts.

Say what you will about the old powerlevel discussions but at least it was mostly people who had played the VN and knew what they were talking about. There's a whole lot of material on how Enkidu works, go look it up.
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>>286642150
Cu dodged that garbage for 12 hours lol.
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>>286636061
You made a typo. 20/10 is what you wanted to say.
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>>286636538
pretty cool except I don't understand how'd he take gugalanna even though it isn't a np of a servant.
also how does gugalanna even work? rintar couldn't access it because it was stolen by phishtar? that doesn't make sense unless it's an independent being separate from ishtar?
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>>286640159
That's not what Volume 7 says at all.
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>>286642022
>Gil in a straight line
Heracles literally zoomed around the area and the chains followed him and caught him.
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>>286642327
that is exactly what the summaries say. it is unambiguous that alcides was one move away from defeat
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>>286642325
>unless it's an independent being separate from ishtar?
yeah?
it's Ishtar's pet and Ereshkigal's husband
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>>286642369
Stop using google translate and learn japanese before you start talking trash. That's not what it says at all.
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>>286642451
No. I'm fully aware of the text says. It is about Alcides' defeat. Your cope is not changing that fact. Idiots like you who think they understand a language by isolating text and then wrongly inserting them are hilarious. The very terminology even then is a militaristic term for completely crushing the opposition.
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Any person who cared about setting the record straight would be posting the text. Anyone who doesn't but keeps on claiming they're in the right, only cares about shitposting.
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>>286642408
We're been over this a lot already
>its Ishtar's pet
Its just something she begged daddy to use to wipe out all of humanity after Gilgamesh spurned her. Its not something that belonged to Ishtar, its more like Daddy's convertible that Ishtar begged to use out of anger. She basically said she would raise the dead and kill everyone if she couldn't use it.

>Ereshikigal fucked it every single night
In TM lore she had no husband, and they specifically said she didn't have any connection to or remember Gugulanna. In TM lore she was just a loner who was born in the underworld and stayed in the underworld all her life, Ishtar tried to drag her out by force once but it ended up with Eresh stealing all of Ishtar's divinities and then killing her.
The only connection they gave Eresh in TM is Nergal and Dumuzuird. Nergal is another diety whom Eresh stole all of his power once, although he conceded to her and gladly gave his power to her before leaving the underworld. And Dumzuid is the shepard boy that Ishtar was once married to, who Ishtar turned into a sheep and allowed his sheep dogs to basically try ripping him apart.
Later on Ishtar needed to trade a soul in order to get herself out of the underworld, so she sold the shepard boy to take her place in the underworld, so she could escape.

In TM lore Eresh has no real connection to Gugulanna
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>>286642661
>そんなアルケイデスを撃破するあと一歩のところで、突如「王の財宝」が閉じ、ギルガメッシュはヒュドラの毒をその身に受けてしまう。
>“Just when they were one step away from defeating Alcides, the ‘Gate of Babylon’ suddenly closed, and Gilgamesh ended up taking the Hydra’s poison onto his own body.”
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>>286642582
>I'm fully aware of the text says. It is about Alcides' defeat.
You clearly are not aware of what the text says if you said that second sentence lol. Learn japanese ans stop using google translations.
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>>286641626
>>286641556
i dont know hwat a humbaba is and im not gonna look it up i assume its the true identity of the triskelion robot. Thanks that clears it up more
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>>286642740
>just trust me bro, i totally know what i'm talking about
no thank you.
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>>286642724
>defeating Alcides
Wrong usage of the word lol.
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>>286642772
See >>286642791
Cope.
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>>286642791
Try again
>撃破する
Does not exclude people. And as I already explained to you, Alcides is the fucking object. Stop isolating lines and actually read the text
>そんなアルケイデスを撃破するあと一歩のところで
>を
is an object marker. It's about defeating him.
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>>286642791
Cite your source.
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>>286642724
It does seem pretty conclusive. The sentence even starts with that 'sonna', so it's not like there's a preceding term that could change the meaning.
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>>286642880
>Does not exclude people
Which is why japanese needs context for the right usage of the word. You are, as always, using it wrong for an agenda.
>It's about defeating him
In the sense of neutralizing his Nine Lives, correct.

>>286642903
Japanese. Learn it.
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>>286642724
>>286642791
Leave it to a gilfag to always make shit up only to be proven wrong later. Makes one wonder if the whole thing about being the strongest is also a mistranslation.
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Bro, that samefag was embarassing...
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>>286643007
>Japanese. Learn it.
The scan that you just used. Cite that source.
Your word is not evidence.
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>>286643007
>context
And the context is Alcides. He is the object here. Object marker is attached to him.
>In the sense of neutralizing his Nine Lives, correct.
Nine Lives is never specified. That's shit you completely made up here.
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>>286643153
>And the context is Alcides.
The context is the battle in the actual novel. You are sounding like those Twitter trannies disregarding the context of "Anata" in Leon and Sherry.
>Nine Lives is never specified.
The hydra poison hitting as a result is literally mentioned there buddy.
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>Jetfag quoting the fucking wiki then cutting out the inconvenient parts
Here is the actual source

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%92%83%E7%A0%B4

And the definition:

>撃破(げきは)は、敵を攻撃して大きな被害を与えること。敵の部隊や兵器などを攻撃によって戦闘不能、および移動不能の状態すなわち無力化すること
>Gekiha” (撃破) means attacking the enemy and inflicting heavy damage. It refers to rendering enemy units, weapons, and similar targets incapable of combat and unable to move through attack—in other words, neutralizing them.
>enemy units.
Shit is just talking about smashing something. It doesn't care about whether it's a person, a group, a vehicle, or an object. It's a military term.

Truly, the village idiot.
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>>286642724
You can have a certified Lv1000 Japanese guy confirm this, I guarantee Jetfag Jr isn't going to accept it.
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>>286643263
No. The summary is explaining the battle. It is not limited to the information provided by the battle. The battle never showed Gilgamesh or confirmed that Gilgamesh could actually have done something about Nine Lives. He only said that he would. The summary confirming it and going further to state Alcides was one step from the defeat. By default, this is a new affirmation. You're wrong.
>hydra poison
Separated from Alcides being one move from defeat, conveying how the preceding one did NOT happen because the gate was closed. Forget reading Japanese. You don't even have the critical thinking necessary for basic English/
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It's heartbreaking to find out that Alcides was going to lose before Ishtar interrupted.
Not because I thought that he should 100% be able to beat Gil.
It's just that... I don't know, kinda feels so mundane.
Alcides, with maximum focus, with his life on the line, betting everything he has on this fight, unleashing his signature NP... Was still going to get done in by Gil not doing anything special, just being slightly more considerate with his GoB selection?
What a brutal mogging.
It really makes Alcides look like a shitter.
Man...
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>>286643502
>Alcides, with maximum focus, with his life on the line, betting everything he has on this fight, unleashing his signature NP... Was still going to get done in by Gil not doing anything special, just being slightly more considerate with his GoB selection?
Alcidies poisoned to death, all his muscles and bones destroyed, body barely hanging on by a thread after being hit by two death blows, seeks out Gilgamesh for one last fight before his body fades away, he would rather die fighting Gilgamesh than ever lose to a human

By sheer chance Ishtar uses this opportunity to take out Gilgamesh when Alcidies was honestly at a disadvantage. In the end he stole victory from the heart of failure, by divine intervention
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>>286643352
>The battle never showed Gilgamesh or confirmed that Gilgamesh could actually have done something about Nine Lives.
It literally does.
>The summary confirming it and going further to state Alcides was one step from the defeat.
If you use google translations that would be the case.
>Separated from Alcides being one move from defeat
Again, this doesn't exist to begin with. Defeat is used in the sense of the neutralization of his weaponry.
>You don't even have the critical thinking necessary for basic English
That is hilarious coming from you.
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>>286643502
to be fair to alcides, he overcame gob spam and got gil to use the dreaded "i will now actually bring out specific weaknesses to your specific kit", which is actually the reason gil is famed the strongest. so that's a serious response 99% of servants never get.

and alcides' nine lives gets stronger in volume 8 too.
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>>286643502
>It's heartbreaking to find out that Alcides was going to lose before Ishtar interrupted
lol.
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>>286643626
>It literally does.
It literally never fucking did. Nowhere does the LN state that Alcides or NL would have actually been defeated in volume 5. Gilgamesh only said that he could handle it.
>If you use google translations that would be the case.
coming from the guy using the wiki, then omitting the parts that say it's not about weapons.
Laughable. You're done.
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>>286643502
Just wait until Alcidies uses Ten Lives
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>>286643502
No idea why you continue spamming this shit when the only thing it does is prove you don't know any degree of japanese. It's sad.
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>>286643621
>Alcidies poisoned to death
AKSHUALLY, Alcides revived and started using the grail mud to subdue to the poison. It fucks with his head, but his body is mostly fine.
He was not "barely hanging on by a thread". He was as powerful as ever and has not faded away days after the battle. He also got from Hell
>rather die fighting Gilgamesh than ever lose to a human
Alcides WANTS to be beaten by humans. He'd never want to lose to a divinity. Now that you're just chatting shit.
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>>286643661
Bro... This is after Ishtar's interruption...
Gil only starts getting hit after she closes the gate.
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>>286643735
You think Jetfag watches this show? He disappeared for weeks when Gilgamesh wasn't around. He only picked up the last 2 episodes and skimmed to where Gilgamesh showed up.

Genuinely Gilgamesh's biggest fan.
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>>286643665
>Nowhere does the LN state that Alcides or NL would have actually been defeated in volume 5.
It says Nine Lives would have. So not only are you using wrong translations but you straight up haven't even read the novel at all.
>coming from the guy using the wiki
If you knew japanese there wouldn't be any need to educate you via wiki. You could have simply shut up about stuff you don't know.
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>>286643798
GILBROS... NOT AGAIN...
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>>286643796
They're noble phantasms.
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>>286643798
>intercept the nine arrows
>nothing about winning or beating Alcides
So they were lying again, holy fuck. Gilgamesh wasn't intending to win at all with that NP he was about to use.
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what time is it in brazil why is the jetfag seething
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>>286643865
22:54
No relation, I swear.
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>>286643798
>It says Nine Lives would have
Wrong again
>readying to intercept
does not equal actually stopping the attack. The capacity is never referenced. Only the attempt. Summaries confirm what would have actually happened.
>if you knew Japanese
Not buying what you're selling, Jetfag.
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Why is this mindbroken gilfag talking about some jetfags when Lancelot hasn't been mentioned in about 12 hours or something? What is this schizo shit?
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I wonder if Jetkek actually believes people are convinced by him. Is pretending to be retarded really that fun? Serious ask.
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>>286643912
When no argument, blame the boogeyman.
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>>286640102
I want to ride this hippo. Or for this hippo to ride me.
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>>286643912
Pathetic. The real Jetfag never pretended or made excuses when he got called out. You Jetfag Jr.s need to step it up.
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>>286643892
This is just pathetic at this point.
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>>286643925
>>286643056
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>>286643961
>Jetfag is genuinely ESL
Retardbro. The word "intercept" does not guarantee a conclusion. It guarantees an intervention. You can intercept something by getting in the way of its destination, but that doesn't mean you won't lose.
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>>286643962
>glazes Gil
>not a gilfag
Huh?
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>>286641183
Shirou with Rin, Saber and Archer support.
Read the VN, Jetkek.
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>>286643987
You know. Someone can give an opinion without operating on significant bias. They could also just be stupid. But you didnt' actually think of that. You boogeyman'd Gilfags to poison the well. Glass houses, hombre.
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>arguing with a ban evading Jetspic
I don't know why you guys bother.
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>>286643980
>to stop, seize or interrupt in progress
Are you gonna pretend you know what you are talking about when you clearly didn't know the line existed to begin with? >>286643665
>Gilgamesh only said that he could handle it.
You proved you haven't read the novel. You thought the only line about Nine Lives was Gil's own comments when it's clearly thr narrator talking there.
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>>286640102
What kind of men does she like?
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>>286642724
Gilfag, you're trying to use this again, even though I already exposed you using GOOGLE AI to define a kanji that you've never used in your life. You're not fooling anyone who has read the novel. The attack Gilgamesh was preparing was to defend himself from Nine Lives/Hydra's attack. If you want us to take you seriously, you'll have to prove that defending himself from Alcides' attack caused him direct damage at the same time. Come on, show us a single text from the fight that suggests that the attack Gilgamesh was preparing was to attack Alcides and not Nine Lives/Hydra. Come on, we'll wait patiently for you to quote it.
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>>286643798
>Just as Gilgamesh was readying a Noble Phantasm to intercept the nine arrows shrouded in grotesque, dark-red magical energy that were closing in on him...
>readying to intercept.
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>>286640102
I want to dye her hair blonde and then gag and blindfold her.
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>Alcides was said to be using Nine Lives since the first fight in the canyon
>"Gil can't counter it"
Lmao
Jetkek, everybody.
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Does this guy actually think spamming xfag is going to win him the argument or something?
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>>286644083
He has no arguments don't bully him. This is all he has.
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>>286643419
You expect powerleveltards like him to know basic Japanese?
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>>286644067
He already got destroyed here >>286643798
The novel itself says Gilgamesh was only going to intercept Nine Lives and nothing more than that. He's now coping that intercept doesn't mean intercept.
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>he's replying to himself
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>>286644051
>clearly didn't know the line existed
The line says the same thing. Nothing actually happened. Gilgamesh only said that he would do something about it. This text doesn't confirm anything either. It only says he would attempt to intercept. There is no confirmation of success.
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>>286644136
We expose you, and all you can say is that? You're pathetic.
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>>286644163
>The line says the same thing.
It doesn't. Gilgamesh himself doesn't even say he was gonna stop anything, he just says he has plenty of that stuff in his treasury. Read the novel first I have lost count of the amount of times you have embarrassed yourself today.
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>>286644004
I'm talking about the fight inside Unlimited Blade Works, anon. When Gil fought one on one with swords against Shirou, yet wasn't strong enough to overpower him, nor fast enough to outmaneuver him.
>Jetkek
I can see why you'd think that, given the circumstances.
But pointing out what I'm pointing out is no different from noting that Gil has Clairvoyance but never uses it to avoid jobbing.
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>>286644163
He has the fucking counter to Hydra Venom since FSN, retard.
Alcides literally cannot touch him without Ishtar and Huwawa.
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>>286642194
>>286642150
lmao, this is the biggest proof of that shit not being an absolute counter like the dude is arguing.
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I think Gilfags might be addicted to jobbing just like their hero because what the fuck is this? Humilliation fetish?
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>>286644226
So how did Shirou activate UBW? Did he do it by himself?
We not gonna count him being able to use it due to Rin, Archer and Saber saving his ass before he activates it?
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>>286644210
>I have venom to match yours
Use your head. Tell me exactly what you think he means by that if not to use it and its antivenom to match Alcides attacks? Don't bother. Not a brain in your head
>>286644234
You can go back and read the argument at hand. Whether or not Gilgamesh could do it is irrelevant. It only says that he would ATTEMPT it. He never did anything. The summaries confirm what would have happened and that Alcides would have lost.
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>>286644288
I don't see them ban evading or posting cuckshit like you though.
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>>286644293
Gilgamesh got help from Kirei and the orphans too apparently. Stop coping.
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>>286644234
Gilfag tries again to pretend that the first confrontation where Alcides damaged his armor never happened. Come on, tell me, where were Ishtar and Huwawa here? This fact is so painful for Gilfag that he voluntarily blocks it out of his mind, but it is reality and he will have to live with it.
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>>286644316
>them
lol
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>>286643798
>>286644051
>>to stop, seize or interrupt in progress
You sure about that?

>Predicting what would happen next, Enkidu explosively unleashed the magical energy they
brought with them from Earth’s surface and prepared to intercept the attack.
>The next instant... In an attempt to activate his magecraft before Enkidu had the time to
deploy their Noble Phantasm, Thia yelled powerful words.
>Hollowed Hearsay/Oblivion turns to festivity “A Clockwork Abbadon!”

Pop quiz. Did Enkidu cancel out, stop, and negate Thia's attack?
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>>286644320
Kirei was dead by the time he fought Shirou.
Did you at least watch the anime, retard?
I know VNs and words scare you, but Jesus.
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>>286644293
Anon, I'm not arguing about that. I'm only talking about physical strength.
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>>286644327
>The Auto Defensors’ lightning activated to intercept the arrow, but although several bolts
struck home, it slipped through the gaps in the bolts to fly straight at Gilgamesh.

Uh, jetbro? Isn't this saying that the auto-defensors intercepted and still failed to catch the arrow? Isn't that why Gilgamesh's armor broke?

I thought you said intercepting something means it stops and defeats it LMFAO
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>>286644353
And Gilgamesh would have been long dead before the 5th without Kirei.
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>>286644327
>sneak attack
>literally slower than HUMAN Shirou that Gil manages to materialize his armor and raise his hand to block it
You're not making Alcides look good, Jetspic. lmao
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>jetkek killing his own argument
you can't make this shit up
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>>286644361
UBW takes time and mana to activate. Why would any sane person let an enemy activate their trump card? Without Rin, Saber and Archer, he would've never done it.
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>>286644333
>The next instant... In an attempt to activate his magecraft before Enkidu had the time to
deploy their Noble Phantasm
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>>286644395
And Shirou would've been dead without Rin when Lancer killed him.
But we're discussing about Gil vs Shirou which you're trying to run away from.
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>>286644434
Nothing in your reply relates to what I said.
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>>286644467
>Gil vs Shirou
Shirou won 1vs1.
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>>286644490
>can't answer so I'll just ignore everything else
I know the truth hurts, Jetkek.
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>>286644451
I don't understand the significance of this reply. Did Enkidu manage to stop Clockwork Abaddon?

Yes or no?
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I have not seen a single mention of Lancelot other than Gilfag crying about him right now.
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>>286644517
>I know the truth hurts
Yeah I can see you are used to that. You only need to look at this thread to see how much the truth hurts you.
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>>286644535
People aren't as stupid as you, not are we ignorant. You jetfags have been around for ages, and your posting styles and evasion methods are all the same. Nobody but you is remotely as obsessed about "Gilfag".

If you don't want to be called a Jetfag then change up your posting style and try being a little less retarded and abrasive in your responses.
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>>286644561
I'm not the one making shit up and running away from arguments like your precious Lancelot.
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I can't wait to follow the continuation of this argument in the next thread.
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>>286644398
And you try for the thousandth time to divert attention. I'm sorry, but the text shows what happened and debunks your lie >>286644327
You have no credibility.
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>>286644520
Still waiting. It's a simple yes or no answer. You've been shitting up the whole thread incessantly until now. Where'd you go?
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>>286644535
He hasn't been mentioned in 11 hours lmao. Rent fucking free.
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>>286644568
We are Jetfag Kirk we carry the flame. You just created a thousand jetfags. I'm sure all those people laughing on X were le jetfag, surely.
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>>286644611
>no credibility
This coming from a ban evading cuckposter.
You still haven't answered this anon's post that debunks your argument by the way. >>286644382
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>>286644666
im still waiting for him to respond lmao
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>>286644520
>I don't understand the significance of this reply.
Gain a few points of IQ. Clearly Thia adapted.
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>>286644691
So Enkidu did NOT succeed in intercepting it. So preparing or readying to intercept something doesn't actually confirm success?

Thank you. You lost. Gilgamesh readying to intercept Nine Lives doesn't prove or confirm he would succeed. The summaries did.
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>>286644683
You expect him to respond? Dude can barely understand plain simple English.
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>>286644691
>>286644451
Uh, Thia failed
This prepped his noble phantasm
Enkidu started activating his to intercept
Thia tried to stop ENKIDU from activating his NP
Thia failed and Enkidu was too fast.
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>>286644717
>So preparing or readying to intercept something doesn't actually confirm success?
Would have if Thia had not adapted.
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>stopped replying
Guess he pulled a Jets and ran.
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>>286644718
Clearly not. He seems to be trying really hard everywhere else but he's ducking me lol. That's the issue with these idiots. You just have to catch them tripping. They always do
>>286644758
But he did fail so the interception also failed LMFAOOOOOO
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He's tripling down on "muh intercept" because he can't dispute the summary >>286642724
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>>286644666
>ban evading
I already exposed you trying to give fictitious identities when you are unable to respond coherently >>286644176
You're a joke.
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>>286644782
This was already destroyed here >>286642791
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>>286644782
The fucking dumbass is so stupid that he can't even read his own quotes. He fucking destroyed his own argument here:
>>286644327
Since the defensors tried to intercept the arrow and failed, that means intercepts can indeed fail. How low must his IQ be to do this to himself looool?
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>>286644800
Nope. Destroyed here >>286643298
Maybe stop quoting wikipedias and pretending you know Japanese lmao
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>>286644795
>you're a joke
Ironic. Everyone is laughing at you.
>>286644036
You've been the spamming pics like these and getting banned for it. So why are you still here?
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>>286644778
>He's ducking
>literally answers to the guy supposedly ducking
I don't follow, is this jetfag a single person, many or what?
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>>286644859
Why are you talking about yourself in 3rd person?
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>>286644854
If there's some supposed evasion why aren't you reporting it? I'm guessing you are but since you haven't gotten the result you hope for, you are left doing this pathetic shit you are doing rn.
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>>286644859
Who knows? I don't have a tendency to assume how many people are anonymous. I made 2 separate posts, and one of them was not responded to so I'm going to call the person I replied to a flake.
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>he really thinks we are all Jetfag Kirk
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>n-n-no you're boogeymanning me
says the king of assuming everyone who talks about gilgamesh is a gilfag
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>>286644851
>It refers to rendering enemy units, weapons, and similar targets incapable of combat and unable to move through attack—in other words, neutralizing them
I don't think this says what you think it does.
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>>286644382
>He keeps trying to give me another identity Really pathetic.
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>>286644927
>attacking the enemy and inflicting heavy damage
>enemy units
Do you?
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>>286644912
>who talks about gilgamesh
Anyone glazing Gilgamesh is a Gilfag, yeah. Just like there are Shiroufags, Cufags, Olgafags, Karnafags. I haven't seen a Lancelot post in almost 12 hours now.
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>>286644934
Oh did you finally see this post after I started quoting it? Assuming it's you, of course. If so, respond to it already. That's your argument I'm replying to. If it's not you then fuck off and play justice warrior elsewhere. I want the retard killing his own arguments lmao.
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You expect Jetkek to understand what the word intercept means when he doesn't understand what the word Corpse means?
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>>286644964
>>286644026
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>>286644954
>rendering enemy
>weapons
>incapable of combat and unable to move through attack
>in other words, neutralizing them
Do you?
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>>286644992
It's a norm to call the glazers fags don't be fucking dense.
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>>286644993
>Enemy units
Do you understand the meaning of this? No. Of course you don't. You're retarded.

Enemy units is people. Their weapons are their tools. Their ships are their vehicles. Gekiha means to completely destroy these. It does not take into account which of these are factored in. It only cares about completely capsizing and defeating the object. It is not exclusive to weapons or inanimate objects. Alcides is the object, which you would know if you read the entire text.
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>>286645040
It's also a norm for someone arguing in bad faith to call other people glazers. Like I said, glass houses.
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>>286644993
For that to follow, that would mean Gilgamesh was going to completely destroyevery weapon in Alcides' arsenal. Bow, Noble phantasms and all. He might as well be defeated at that point.
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>>286645041
>Do you understand the meaning of this?
Yeah, nobody said that wasn't the case. The point was that you are using it wrong by disregarding the context. It's blatantly told here that you are doing a wrong usage of the word >>286642791
What you are implying could apply, depending on the situation. Anata means both "you" and something similar to "darling" depending on context, that's how japanese works, it uses the same words in different contexts for different meanings. The meaning behind Gehika against Alcides was referring to his weaponry, as clearly proven later, Gilgamesh was only going to intercept Nine Lives, not win.
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>>286645121
>disregarding the context.
The context is Alcides being one step away from defeat, because he is the object. You keep citing the wikipedia that was wrongfully and disingenuously cut out. Omitting the mention of enemy units involving PEOPLE.

The summary is not limited to Gilgamesh's immediate action. in fact, we can't even confirm Gilgamesh's immediate action. For all we know, this interception of his could have also overpowered Nine Lives and killed Alcides himself. I would rather go exactly by what the summaries, which extend past the knowledge of volume 5, tells us. Alcides would have been crushed. Those are the exact words.
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Better keep the receipts so Jetspic doesn't pull this shit and make stuff up again.
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>>286645193
I have lmao
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>>286645213
Really fucking embarassing, honestly.
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>>286645183
>The context is Alcides being one step away from defeat
If you use google translate and don't know Japanese this would seem to be the case indeed.
>Omitting the mention of enemy units involving PEOPLE.
Did you even read the stuff posted? You seem to have a hard time reading.
>The summary is not limited to Gilgamesh's immediate action
>one step away
It is about Gilgamesh immediate action which was neutralizing Nine Lives.
>I would rather go exactly by what the summaries
I can understand that you dislike facts, that's nothing new about you. But the facts stay facts regardless of your delusions. And sadly for you the fact is that for anyone that knows japanese, Gilgamesh was not going to win, but intercept Nine Lives.
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>he's replying to himself again
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>>286645289
>muh google translate
Why are you projecting? It's already been established you have 0 understanding of basic Japanese.
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>>286645306
You still talking about yourself in third person again?
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>>286645309
Says the one who didn't know defeat could apply to enemy weaponry or that it was a military term at all.
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>>286645289
>If you use google translate and don't know Japanese this would seem to be the case indeed.
Sorry. Not convinced. I have translated the entire text. It refers to Alcides. He is the object. Your definition (exposed yourself already) does not discount people.
>It is about Gilgamesh immediate action which was neutralizing Nine Lives.
One step away doesn't actually refer to immediate actions either by the way. Forget about Japanese, you've revealed you don't understand English either. A single step from defeat does not factor in time. It factors in PHASES, and a phase can incur any number of actions. It's like asserting the phrase "on the verge of losing" means only one attack will be needed to defeat them. Retarded, and proof you don't even understand the nuance of the english language, let alone Japanese. You larper.
>facts
You've presented not a single one. You've only disputed facts by inserting your fanon. Alcides is the object. You lost.
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>>286645366
>enemy weaponry
the object is alcides.
and if you applied it to enemy weaponry, the very definition would demand that it applies wholesale to every ability Alcides has. Gekiha is an extremely aggressive wording.



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