Lately i got back to watching some animus and the quality of the subs is fucking disgusting.Many times you try and check for torrents online and it's always the same type of bullshit. Some piece of shit rip of whatever niggeroll or niggerflix did with subtitles in swahili where the japanese says bread and the subtitles say bird. The worst part is that no fansub apparently cares that their translation is a piece of shit and are instead always talking about the quality of the image.Is the fansubbing scene dead or am i looking in the wrong place? Very relevant pic.
>>286623984It's pretty dead. All mainstream stuff is ripped from official streaming sites, which do not care about subtitle quality. Sometimes there are fan edits, which try to edit and fix the official subs. Only some obscure stuff that is missing from official sites still gets fansubbed.
There is not enough passion involved.No one is willing to suffer the pain of learning Japanese, using their limited time to translate and/or correct existing subtitles. Decades ago there were only a handful of big titles that had dedicated fandoms so you poured in effort to give other people the chance of reading and or watching your favorite anime.But now there is nothing but the samey slop everywhere that quite simply is not worth it. And it will be forgotten in 3 months anyway.
>>286624006出来るわけじゃありませんだよね
>>286624106>not enough passion involvedIt pains to see how the industry has a bunch of hacks but then you look at the scene and it's not that much different.Yeah there is a bunch of slop everywhere although sometimes you find some sort of niche thing being done by someone only to find it dropped after like two episodes. The worst problem is that you check their info and it's also stuff like 'enter my discord if you want more details'. Shit is so stale
>>286624106Perhaps, but the main reason is that you can't beat the speed of the official subs, and the official subs are often just good enough.CR was always looked down by the anime fandom, but fansubs lost simply because there wasn't enough e-penis left to keep them going.
>>286623984it's dead jim. we really took the 2000's/early 10's scene with 5+ fansub groups doing one show for granted. now we only have official™ subs done by tranny localizers with malicious intent.
>>286623984It's dead because nyaa registrations are closed. There is no new blood coming in.
>>286624477How about nekobt or tokyotosho?
>>286624290Can't even get k-timed karaoke anymore.
>>286624477nothing stopping anybody from uploading they subs to pirate bay
>>286624290Except that one show you really liked was subbed by only one group, which wasn't that good and which took weeks to release a new episode.
>>286624106>There is not enough passion involved.This, I rewatched Stardust Crusaders recently and there were very noticeable dilaogue differences between fansubs and official that made the latter insufferable to watch and enjoy.The Jotaro vs Dio official subs killed my soul, anyone know where I can find Part 3 with fansubs?
>>286624477Uploading a torrent doesn't seem to require registration, but I have not tested it.
>>286624558>literal who>>286624609No one downloads anime from piratebay. If you can't get your work in front of people, it's not worth the effort.>>286624637It does require registration. Anonymous uploads are for registered users who want to hide their username. You can't do it without an account.
>>286624702>You can't do it without an account.It does show the torrent creation form even if you're not logged in. You're saying clicking "Upload" results in an error if not logged in?
>>286624106>There is not enough passion involved.this is when i realized how bad things really are
>>286624711Correct. Try it.
>>286624702>tokyotosho>literal whoJust because everyone moved to nyaa from what existed before it doesn't mean tokyotosho isn't good. Hell i uploaded shit i got from PD there before since nyaa didn't exist yet.Besides are you trying to find excuses for not uploading? You were the one saying that if nyaa doesn't exist else you become depresso. I'm showing you options exist.>>286624738Lol.
>>286624702there's more people that download anime from piratebay than there are people who have even heard of nyaa and 1337
>>286624106This is true to an extent but most anime was also garbage decades ago, it's just that nobody translated it and/or cared.Not to mention, most anime fansubbers were clout demons who subbed big shows and raced to get it out first because that meant you got the most downloads. It's not like Dattebayo (or Niggastream, for manga) were high quality, but the fact that they existed was enough to encourage people to do things promptly.Most shit is officially TL'd and the official TLs are on par with fansubs in the vast majority of cases, so while there's a lack of passion there, it also is a complete waste of time to re-translate something when your own work won't be a massive improvement.You can still see higher quality TLs for BD releases, though.
>>286623984>is fansubbing ded?yes
Is there a perfect torrent index which has all new submissions?Animetosho is pretty good, but it's shutting down.Tokyotosho doesn't scrape nyaa correctly. They're even missing subsplease releases sometimes and only add them later.
>>286624804>You can still see higher quality TLs for BD releasesFrom the companies or the fansubs? Usually this is what i find in BD reeleases
>>286625054>JP BDMVThese obviously won't have English subs, and in this case the ripper just slapped stream subs on it.
>>286623984>Is fansubbing ded?Yes, it has been since they figured out how to rip shit from CR and other companies over a decade ago. All the people who cared got replaced with lazy rippers.
>>286625418Yeah that's why i'm asking if it's from the side of the fansubs or the whoever got the rights to distribute it
>>286624804>most anime was also garbage decades agoIncorrect.>it's just that nobody translated it and/or cared.Way to out yourself as a tourist. Most anime always got fansubbed even in non-english languages like French and Spanish.
>>286624804>You can still see higher quality TLs for BD releases, though.>それがいまでは若者に絶大な人気を誇るバンドになったか。
>>286623984Modern anime is garbage and the fansubbing reflects the quality of itWe told you to learn japaneseYou didn't listenYou reap what you sow
>>286624804>but most anime was also garbage decades ago, it's just that nobody translated it and/or cared.Eh, it's more like anime was harder to obtain back then and people only expended the effort and money on stuff they were personally invested in.
>>286626498You can save yourself, but you can't save the majority of posters in every seasonal show thread, and you'll have to face them constantly.
>>286624788>Just because everyone moved to nyaa from what existed before it doesn't mean tokyotosho isn't good. Hell i uploaded shit i got from PD there before since nyaa didn't exist yet.And now PD barely has 2000 users online.
It's funny that the zombie of Commie still shambles around to pick up a show every once in a while
>>286626498>dekinai memeLet's ignore the fact that for games learning japanese did nothing at all since they started introducing political shit right from the source.
>>286626791That is actually sad.
>>286626951I saw they're doing Darwin Jihen at the moment. Can only imagine the gay memes they're putting in that shit
>>286627396Yeah, they're probably doing it for the sole purpose of getting a wider audience for their shitposting.
>>286625418There are some rare exceptions like movies and gundam.
>>286627396>>286627552Commie is effectively dead, it's just herkz doing everything now.
>>286627396Commie has just been Herkz for years and he was the least memey one of the group. The Darwin Jihen subs aren't censored like the official subs are.
>>286626791Getting the nodes list was never easy.
>>286626498How do I learn?
>>286626498What's the point of learning Japanese if it's all garbage?
>>286628462Please don't point the flaws of ironic dekinai posters.
>>286628462Because you'll still watch it either way.
>>286623984What's the name of this one so I can avoid it?
>>286628462>MODERN animetake a guess
>>286628652Crunchyroll or Netflix. The jap text has nothing of that bullshit that the translators made up. The five different """""fansubs""""" i checked all had the same shit since no one fansubs anymore hence the thread.
>>286629071>The jap text has nothing of that bullshit that the translators made up.>男子生徒は女装を、女子生徒は男装をしてください>まずは男装、その後に女装の発表となります
>>286628531It's always funny because ironic dekinai posters totally miss the point of fansubbing and always spam>LOL LEARN JAPANESE NIGGERS :)Bandwagoning taken to a new extreme
>>286629264Yes? Do you see drag shit there or are you fucking retarded?
>>286629391
>>286623984French people do not have this problem neither with subs or dubsThe only problem we sometimes have is translations done in inclusive writing(only used by far left extremists, as extreme as nazi and isis beheadings to give you a point of reference) but the peopme who do that get booed as bad as the xey/xem concord patriarchy people
>>286629488Please don't reproduce.
>>286629653i'm not sure if you're illiterate or what but allow me to paste this again and then maybe try explaining what you think is going on>男子生徒は女装を、女子生徒は男装をしてください
286629719L2英 aspie.
>>286629790would you like to tell me what you think that japanese sentence says?
>>286629828>>286629653
>>286629926you really need to try using your words because i can only guess so well what the fuck is going on in your brain when you post an equivalent definition to what i posted (well, the verb rather than the noun) as if it proves a point. maybe try looking up 男装 and 女装 on jisho, or perhaps tell me the nuance you're imagining? maybe you think drag is too strong of a word because you didn't realize you were watching gay anime until you saw it? do elaborate.
>>286630018NTA. Drag is a niche subset of crossdressing and should not be used in place of regular crossdressing. Also this is from Sono Bisque Doll which isn't a gay anime.
>>286623984If you actually know Japanese well enough to do really high quality translations there's almost no reason to do them. Even companies don't want to pay people THAT qualified anymore and they're constantly trying to push actually fluent people out in favor of cheaper people they think are good enough to proofread AI stuff.It used to be nice to release stuff so that you could maybe have an English speaking community to talk about a work with, but the people actively using manga sites now are just so depressingly vapid you can't even really get that anymore.
>>286630018>when you post an equivalent definitionExactly. The correct word that i am showing to you is neither politically charged or kink charged. There's a lot that could be discussed here but i don't believe you're intelligent enough to hold such a conversation. If you're ESL i can forgive your "mistake" though.
>>286630130you can absolutely nitpick it, but that's not remotely the same as "it's completely made up">>286630195>The correct word that i am showing to youyou didn't write crossdressing anywhere albeit, hence why i asked you to use your words, faggot.
>>286629653Drag is too strong for the series. There's a type of pomp and deliberate ostentatiousness to drag and intentional aesthetic homosexuality, compared to just cosplay crossdressing. You wouldn't call Haruhi from Ouran High School Host Club a dragking, you'd call her a crossdresser.
>>286628462SHHHHHDon't break the bubble of the secondaries spamming "learn jap" meme.
>>286630268> but that's not remotely the same as "it's completely made up"The translation is wrong. What phrasing of this would satisfy your autism?
>>286630317change>The jap text has nothing of that bullshit that the translators made up.to>crossdressing isn't drag you fucking trannies
>>286630317It's better to disengage that autistic midwit that will eventually get a chance to become a translator and be paid to make up shit.
>>286623984What is the series? Saucenao doesn't work anymore.
>>286630453i appreciate your vote of confidence, but i wouldn't last a day in the industry. i hate faggots that make shit up with a passion.
>>286623984Having done some fansubbing recently: Most people are unwilling to wait 1-3 days for subs made from scratch and will grab the shit ones first, and those shit ones will be everywhere anyway.Also, translation is less of an issue (unless the audio has iffy moments and is hard to hear) and moreso timestamping is the grunt shitwork of the thing.
>>286630482Use Trace.moe
>>286630693Always was but if it matters there are guys like me waiting for good stuff if there's even a chance of coming out.I got into a conversation with a small fansubber of one asking him some random tidbits. His motto is that as long as one person can enjoy it he's happy and i felt like this type of attitude got lost now. Bigger sub X got the show done? Fuck it no one will care that i can improve it. But not this guy. He's still going hard on it kudos to him.
>>286630693I just want the official subs but with OPED fansub lyrics added and within an hour of release every week. Is that so much to ask?
>>286624290bigot>>286623984バカ
fan subbing is 99.9% deadeveryone just grabs the CR/HiDive/Netflix subs and slaps them on their encodesNobody even goes through the effort of ripping the actual subs from the physical releases eitherWe lost
>>286630983>>286631083Issue is also, I personally know what I'd want, and lyrics of any kind I don't think are necessary. OP, ED, mid-episode. TV, radio, "the next train is arriving etc". None of that matters aside from atmosphere, but people would insist they're necessary. If the subs were just for me, I'd just leave some lines untranslated, because we know what "Hai" or any of the usual short barks mean. But again, that's not acceptable for some, and every one of those needs a:NN00:00:00:000 --> 00:00:00:000XXXXXX
You know what needs subing?Taiga dramasI'm just saying it's untapped and maybe in 15 years that can get overtaken by shitty official subs too if [You] work hard enough.
>>286631360>TV, radio, "the next train is arriving etc".Skipping that must be an extremely uncommon opinion. Although fuck translating overlapping conversations without closed captioning.
>>286631548I commended the diligence of the ones that did overlapping dialogues but almost never was the background dialogue ever relevant enough to warrant the need to show it to the viewer.
>>286623984what is that shit of a sub?
>>286631548If dialogue is happening at the same time as a song or background diegetics, I'm skipping them. I fucking hate:"Hitomi-chan, the truth is...""Don't stop, don't stop! Worldspin foreverI like you a lot. but even so..."Subs, official or fan, are often made by and for people who just want to read and don't care to hear, which is why I translate and time my shit to somewhat sync up with what you're hearing on an audible word placement and syllable and rhythm level. But that shit is hard and takes days and needs corrective releases and conferring that no one will give me.
>>286623984Died a long time ago
>>286624238>CR was always looked down by the anime fandomBecause it was a fucking shitty pirate site that went legit somehow and attracted normalfaggots that killed anime
>>286624227>'enter my discord if you want more details'.I hate that shit so muchHost a fucking website you fucking lazy niggersBack in the day even small scanlation groups had their own dedicated websitesNow when you to their mangaupdates page they link to their mangadex page
>>286632104I mean, even their subtitles (and video quality) were considered shit quality after they went legit. There definitely was some unwatchable fucking garbage.
>>286624290>the 2000's/early 10's scene with 5+ fansub groups doing one show for grantedGood fucking times
>>286632104Can you tell me more? I always knew that CR is a pile of shit like fakku. Fast-forward some years and i get people around me telling me how they're paying for CR to get terribly translated anime. Never fucking understood how this came to be.
>>286624613Fuck youI don't give a shit I watched Metal Fight Beyblade and Pokemon DP RawI liked that not everything was taken for granted
>>286632317Pretty sure it had to do with some jackass named DaizPersonally I saw the writing on the wall when Dattebayo dropped Naruto when Crunchyshit acquired it
>>286623984>女装>男装Eh that's not too bad a translation given the context.
>>286632278Well, there was always one doing something arbitrarily fucking insane like the AoT group that insisted on "Eoten" for giants/titans. One of the Death Note groups did something nuts as well beyond unreadable fonts.
>>286632223Crunchyroll didn't sub anime prior to going legitThey hosted fansubs from other groupsThis is one of the reasons people from back in the day absolutely despise themIt's like if Tazmo/Narutofan went legit And people who were around back then remember the whole StopTazmo drama
Remember i had to update my codecs because of this bullshit, what was Commie thinkinv.
>>286624702>literal whoNekoBT seems to be a new siteLooks good
>>286632566>>286632592It was fucking COMMIE? Fucking WHY?
>>286632592>the eotena onslaught
>>286632355At least the latter half of Pokemon DP had subs.
>>286632478Had to be the fucking narutards.
>>286632569I know, but again my point was about what happened after they went legit.CR before they went legit also grabbed money by requiring "donations" for higher quality versions.
>>286624804>Not to mention, most anime fansubbers were clout demons who subbed big shows and raced to get it out first because that meant you got the most downloads. It's not like Dattebayo (or Niggastream, for manga) were high quality, but the fact that they existed was enough to encourage people to do things promptly.Except that we were spoiled as fuck back then with alternative quality-oriented fansubs which maybe took a few days more usuallyI disagree about Dattebayo. Apart from them in later days becoming fags and insisting on translating special technique names(Getsuga Tenshou <=> Lunar Fang Piercing Heaven or whatever it was), the quality was pretty damn good for how fast they were and considering they still had to wait for the TV broadcast so somebody records the shit and sends it to them and stuffThat said I seem to remember those faggots selling professional DVDs which I wonder if anyone ever boughtAnyways, I stopped using Dattebayo when they refused to provide HD Naruto and Bleach because they were upscaledWas using Taka Fansubs for Naruto and there were some other fansub groups for BleachThat said the translation quality of Dattebayo was good
>>286627888There is no way he said nigger in japanese
>>286630693Yeah, when licensed live subs first came out people on /a/ would just not watch the trash they put out and were willing to wait for good subs, but as time passed people stopped doing that, causing a vicious circle where subbers dropped out because they couldn't see the point.
>>286630453That girl is a cutie
I'm glad the world is finally turning against trannies. They won't be missed.
>>286633367It probably said kokujin and America has been hard at work to make other countries say that anything that don't like means nigger so that they can then push for their nigger shit.
>>286632317
>>286633767>It probably said kokujinIt did indeed.
>>286632733Wait, when did DP go HD Widescreen again?It's funny because not too long after we finally got fansubs I dropped PokemonLooking back on it, it doesn't seem like they subbed all episodeshttp://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersDiamondandPearlSubbedOn a somewhat related note: I remember watching Yugioh 5Ds subs from PrisonWeapon on youtubeHe would always do them within a day so he was pretty fastBut at some point I would say fuck it and would just watch the raws since I didn't really even care about how complex the game had gotten
>>286633771 Attempted assassination of Dao Successful assassination of Erai-raws Shutting down Aniwave and AnimeSuge Signing an aquisition deal between Crunchyroll and Funimation Sending DMCA notices to the nyaadevs GitHub repo Successful assassination of Anime-Supreme
Why did nyaa die?
>>286632733>>286633898*PrismWeapon not PrisonWeapon
>>286623984How long does it take to learn Japanese?
Idk how to learn japanese. I did core2k + tae kim and I've almost finished jlab and I can still probably understand less than 20% of what I'm reading and what I'm reading is manga for children so.
>>286634109just keep reading
>>286633771Ano yarou
>>286633771>lolipower>removing loli and rape from tropesShit i don't want to know that these are real.
>>286634109>I can still probably understand less than 20% of what I'm readingAre you skipping everything that doesn't make sense? Or do you just mean you have to look up 80% of it, but you understand more afterwards?
>>286624106>>286632921>tfw got into animu because I foolishly thought almost everyone was doing karoke subs.I was fooled into thinking this was still a thing, at least TV-Tokyo still does stuff even though sentai is dead.
>>286629653>genderNot a real word
>>286634543Gender is a homophone for sex that exists for kids who think that sex is a bad word. Kind of like pseudo-swear words.
>>286634440TV-Tokyo?I think you meant TV-Nihon right?
>>286634650>The English language: Fucking up itself for no reason since 1xxx
>>286634749Nta but no, other languages make the same distinction tooSex = Intercourse, so sex is a vulgar word
>>286634650>homophonePlease ignore that I'm retarded, synonym.
>>286634650Nope, even if we accept that gender actually means what it was originally meant to it doesn't mean sex.
>>286635143No, he's rightGender was a word that was invented to avoid saying sex since sex also means sexual intercourse
>>286634819Let me check a few for you.Spanish - sexoItalian - sexoFrench - sexePolish - płeć better translated as sex [jeśli chcesz sprecyzować mówią "płeć biologiczna"]Portuguese - sexoRussian - пол meaning sexAre these other languages with us in our room?
>>286624238>the main reason is that you can't beat the speed of the official subsso much this, everyone cries about official subs being shit at times but they also wont wait and eat them when it takes time to do a proper sub
>>286624238>>286635717the speed is not an issueofficial manga translations can be 2 years behind the raws and scanlators will still drop the series
What a whiny thread. If there is an unmet need there will be fansub. Just like there was spontaneously in the TBF thread.Whether mid localization or chuds feeling insecure at the sight of leftist words constitues an unmet need is another matter entirely.
>>286634739haha yeah...
>>286635866I've seen some weird pseudo-morality comments from scanlators claiming that translating something that's not yet localized is doing a service to the author but translating something localized is taking away from them. That kind of mental illness never existed with anime.
>>286633898>Looking back on it, it doesn't seem like they subbed all episodesYeah, they started with episode 94, but went back and subbed a couple older ones too.>Wait, when did DP go HD Widescreen again?Episode 121, you can see that in the torrent list there.
>>286635866Speed of the official subs is what destroyed fansubs.
The thing I miss the most is TL notes. They ranged from informative info for words that don't actually have a good analogue for in English, context for puns or common references, and just the occasional stupid joke here and there that might make you laugh. Been watching a lot of anime that came out in the 00's and got fansubs, and there's a lot more of this kind of thing going on.
>>286635551Spanish - géneroItalian - genereFrench - genrePortuguese - géneroGerman - genderI'll put in an extra for youAlbanian - gjiniIt's based on Latin genere(type, kind)https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gender#Etymology_1It was clearly coined to avoid confusion with sexual intercourse which made the word sex sound vulgar, and some languages adopted itThe modern tranny meaning is bullshit
>>286635973>That kind of mental illness never existed with anime.>What is Dattebayo dropping Naruto and Bleach when Crunchyroll licensed them?Nah that shit was in the anime scene too
>>286636051>Yeah, they started with episode 94IIRC no they didn'tThey had subbed a couple of episodes here and there before thenBtw the cunts at Dattebayo subbed the 1st 10 episodes before they dropped it because ''not enough traffic''Now those subs are lost media
>>286635933>chudsGo back tranny
>>286635551Russian - секс (sex) means sexual intercourse, пол (pol) is only for "biological male/female classification". The two words almost never interlap except in some very modern westernized loanwords/expressions.
>>286624238How would you compare official subs to animejunkies?
Back when Necronomico was airing and it had ChatGPT subs, I actually bothered learning how to subtitle a video and started doing my own translation of the 1st episode. A few minutes into the episodes runtime I realized what a pain in the ass it was (at least for a beginner) and stopped. I've always had a lot of respect for fansubbers but after learning Japanese I realized how fucking annoying it was to actually do.
>>286624738people pay for this
Did you know there are hardly any bots distributing anime anymore? That many groups use DISCORD instead of IRC? This is how far the hobby has fallen. There is no coming back.
>>286635973I mean I'd accept it if they just said they didn't want to get slapped with a D&D. I wouldn't like it but it's at least a non retarded answer.
>>286626317They still release anime BDs in the west anymore?
>>286635973That DEFINITELY existed with fansubbing, I saw it. Look at groups dropping FMA03 after its license.
Still there, but its usually just on super ULTRA HD BD REMUX, that barely anyone will download because both storage and timeMy only problem is that most insist in adding the eng dub, and the fuckers make it both the default track and the default sub track is the SFX/signs not the actual dialogue, and both are labeled ENG so you cant even try to just make it default on vlc player or somethingI like to archive things, so I have to figure shit myself, everyt iem I tried to ask it devolved into someone having a seizure for downloading X guy thing instead of Y, then somne yelling because I downloaded Y instead of X, then someone not understanding why I cant archive xbox hueg file size BD remux, and no one ever answered any question that wasn't "This has more pixels fidelity than this"
>>286636311I'm not sure if you know but the word gender exists and is not applied for sex. It has grammatical uses but not the uses that English language pretends to use.So on your ID card, as you can check on all those countries, it appears "sex" but if you need to explain the "sex of a table" you must use "gender" since tables and angels don't have sexual organs.Please understand that English is a retarded language with many retarded speakers that will try to obfuscate such bad words as sex and pleasure. Very unfortunately so.
>>286637262>if you need to explain the "sex of a table" you must use "gender" since tables and angels don't have sexual organs.but the gender of a table is definitively either male or female, curiously enough
>>286637262Nigger, are you fucking retarded?Gender is used in lieu of ''sex'' biological classification in daily language to avoid using ''sex'' because that word is short-term for sexual intercourseOther languages do the same exact thingNo shit that official documents put ''SEX'' but that doesn't apply to common daily speak See >>286636578Holy fuck what a smoothbrained retard
>>286637594YOLO hasn't even been relevant since 2012Death to trannylations
>>286637911Please refrain from reminding people how old they are to such a brutal extent.
>>286635440American prudish mindset and insane terminology combine to butcher the language some more.
>>286637537>Other languages do the same exact thingExcept they don't. I can speak for my own mother tongue and those around me but you do you since you know better.
Have you realized that the only people who complain about fansubs are people who don't do shit besides complain?
>>286638178>complaining about your headcanon of what complainers are likeWe're reaching levels of projection never thought possible.
>>286635973>That kind of mental illness never existed with anime.Nah, that was pretty much THE unspoken rule back in the day. CR going legit was pretty much the end of that.
>>286637262>but if you need to explain the "sex of a table" you must use "gender"The "gender of a table" is an hallucinated schizophrenic grammar construct that doesn't exist irl so it doesn't matter.
>>286638121It's not exclusive to America you dipshit>>286638141Except they literally doAnon >>286636578 here gave a perfect example of Russian doing the same thingIn my native Albanian we do it tooBack in the day the world used to be more conservative and valued decency before liberalkikes spread their degeneracyI'm sorry that reality annoys you and you prefer an alternative history which never existed
>>286637911Don't worry, they use newer and more culturally relevant slang too.
>>286636490Yeah, a couple ones here and there with random volunteer translators. They were primarily a raw distro/encoding group back in the day before they picked up a regular translator.
>>286638516>and valued decencyyou're going a bit off the rails here. people didn't want to say sex because they're children or they never grew up. there's no decency in saying the same thing (which isn't even objectionable) using different words. it's like celebrating "gosh" as a corruption of "god" that somehow allegedly isn't using the name in vain, what an admirable cheat code, how decent.
>>286638516Yes anon. Perhaps you did not understand but for non-latin languages that still user masculine, feminine and neutral, there is a necessary use of a specific word. Albania that is close to the birth country of cyrillic apparently uses the same. These languages are use a specific word for the attribution of sex.Meanwhile for latin languages and those close to it you will use sex and only or mostly for grammatical uses the word gender.Contrary to both you Albanian anon and other latin languages English would use sex since they have no need of a gender attribution for such information but due to the historical control of religion and several people that prefer to change words to not hurt people English eventually got gender in their IDs. You know like PTSD came to be.
>>286635973>>286638341It was very rare for shows to be licensed until after they had already fully aired in Japan, so it rarely affected the standard fansubs of airing shows.
>>286638583CR subs made me, for the first time, got to LATAM subs since they are actually neutralNetflix completely butchered Komisan with forced gender politics tho
>>286638755Norwayfag here, we use the same word for both. There's no actual reason to have different words for grammatical sex and reproduction sex, it's just a weird quirk in some languages.
>>286638749>people didn't want to say sex because they're children or they never grew upNo, it's because it could be misconstrued for sexual intercourse. That is literally the reason.In more formal official settings(like legal documents) of course they may use Sex.This ''children'' narrative is fucking hilarious. If anything children always wanted to be edgy and rebellious and would always use sex, and any cuss words they weren't supposed to.>>286638755Albanians predate Slavs in the region so I'm not sure there's any relation there.But in English or Albanian or most of the Slavic languages the word Sex can be used for both, it's just that differentiating between the two is preferred, especially as the word Sex came to be used short-hand for sexual activity.And sure some Americans may be prudish(which is funny to think because they use the word ''fuck'' in almost every sentence nowadays) but you're making Europe out to be this holy liberal land which it isn't and never was.
>>286638583>people actually pay for this brainrotReminder that this is literally 4chanspeakChud was literally coined in /pol/ 5 years ago during the elections
>>286639382>No, it's because it could be misconstrued for sexual intercourse. That is literally the reason.can you come up with a realistic scenario demonstrating this issue? aside from, you know, the classic joke of writing "yes" in a form, since that's an example falling under official settings.
>>286623984learn japanese retard
>>286638516Americans being prudish retards is what spawned the term "gender" to justify molesting children.
This thread reminds me of something I was wondering for Houseki no Kuni...the subs refereed to the gem characters as "they", which I thought was off since the gems are clearly females. Was that an accurate translation or what?
>>286639382>Albanians predate Slavs in the region so I'm not sure there's any relation there.Look for Polish and Hungarian as a bridge>but you're making Europe out to be this holy liberal landI think we have a misunderstanding here. I'm saying the British that are very known for classism and prudish behavior which eventually led to the Mayflower, are the ones trying to currently politicize sex and trying to force every language they can into use "gender". As i told you my mother tongue of latin background uses sex for what the English language determines as "gender". The way we use the word gender is mostly if not only due to grammatical reasons of learning the language itself. We do not care if you would ever think that saying sex would mean sexual intercourse just because it's the same word.
>>286639519It's simple, I'm not talking about fucking right now. Is just not the current topic. So I can use a more sophisticated synonym instead. I don't have to but of I say SEX someone will think of fucking, is just how it werks.
>>286639725They ain't got organs or anything. They are smooth painted gems, they are not women
>>286639725What do the characters say? Without audio it's hard anon.
anime is dead in general. unless it's something so niche like precure as a whole it's clear no one really cares about banging out subs before the official release
>>286639519Already did several timesSex is used as short-hand for sexual activity and thus became vulgar word to use So Gender is the preferred word useage for biological classification in common speechThat's itThere's no deeper meaning to it
>>286638583Which episode was this?
>>286639799It as this release if you want to watch it: https://nyaa.si/view/1329212I downloaded it without reading the comments but now it makes sense it was tempered with the >genderneutral pronouns
>>286639725((They)) will try to gaslit you into believing those hot gems aren't female and not have sex with gems. When no one's had problems with fembots before. It's all lies.
>>286639741>>286639809by misconstrued i thought you were implying there could be actual confusion. you're just saying it could make something unrelated pop into someone's mind, though they'd still understand the intent? isn't that just the childish self-censorship i mentioned?
>>286639725They are rocks so they have no sex. But most of them use boku so the scalations used male pronouns. And I think there was some use of nii-san. Also their bodies have both male and female aspects to them like their upper chests are flat with broad shoulders.
>>286639907>https://nyaa.si/view/1329212Thanks for the PSA on not to touch those subs. One day i wanted to watch this anime but now is not the time.
>>286640031I still haven't watched this show but you're not making it sound very good.
>>286640090What do you expect from a bunch of sentient rocks?
>>286624804>it also is a complete waste of time to re-translate something when your own work won't be a massive improvement.This wasn't such an invalid argument a decade ago, but the standards have plummeted so much since then that any fan translation with an iota of effort put in would absolutely be a massive improvement.
>>286640163Well, that's the thing, is sentient rocks inherently an interesting premise? Maybe not. Fuckable sentient rocks? That's certainly a worthwhile direction to explore.
>>286639980It's not self-censorship if I'm doing it on purpose after being fed up with smartass chuds going "hehe you said sex hehe". Stfu. I use the other word and you can't do that.
>>286632592They were thinking they'd get attention from it, which they did. That's all they ever cared about.
>>286639460Anons hate seeing their memes going mainstream because the outside perspective reveals to them how absolutely fucking embarrassing and cringe-inducing they actually were and are.>>2866401721) The effort isn't an "iota", a minor addition/subtraction often means re-editing the entries for the whole script because of the way these are written.2) People don't seek better subs, they use what already exists and is easier to access.
>>286640256There are fuckable slugs.
>>286635973You obviously weren't around for the old days. It was standard practice for groups to drop shows and beg everyone to stop distributing them when they got licensed.
>>286639725Japanese doesn't use pronouns the same way English and most other western languages do, so this isn't a questions that really makes that much sense to them. You can go entire series without knowing if some non-humanoid creature is male or female because the script never brings it up, and it's not thought of as odd because Japanese doesn't require you to think of such creatures by any pronouns at all.It usually does cause issues with translations, especially if it's an ongoing series and the translator writes "she" because "they are clearly females" only to have one of the "females" get referred to as "nii-san" in chapter 176. But modern gender autist definitely doesn't help matters.
>>286640256the author is female, so
>>286640477I'm almost certain I used a.f.k. for Clannad and I don't remember this type of no copyright infringement intended watermarking. Am I losing it?
>>286640498the gems are called 彼 ("he") many times, but it's the more neutral optionyou can't really use あれ ("it") since they are sentientthere are gender-neutral ways to refer to people that manga use when they want to hide the gender from the audience, like あの人 ("that person"), but they would be unnatural if used exclusively
>>286640654It was only a few seconds at the end of the OP, so not that hard to forget about, especially if you were skipping the OP.
>>286623984yes
>>286639980>by misconstrued i thought you were implying there could be actual confusionWell yes that could happen>isn't that just the childish self-censorship i mentioned?In the case of English I suppose, but we all self-censor to a degreeIt's delusional to think otherwiseI think it's more of a case of adapting to the evolution and change of languageI mean are you really self-censoring if everyone else is doing the exact same? Food for thought.In the case of Albanian, I'm pretty sure the word Sex is either borrowed from Latin or EnglishSex is from PIE sek(to cut)https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sexus#LatinWhich is where the word ''section'' or ''sector'' etc. come fromBut in Albanian it feels like a non-native word and thus kinda awkward to use most of the time(especially in the Gheg dialect)Even when referring to the sexual activity words like Qi(Fuck) or Palloj(Fuck) feel more natural even if they sound a billion times more vulgar than SexGjini(maybe borrowed from Latin Genia) otoh feels native, maybe because it's Albanized I dunnohttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gjini
It's over. Fan subbing has reclined.
>>286641964soulless vs SOULBased Fansubs MOGGING (((official))) garbage
100% sure if official subs had a 2 week delay then we would have legit fansubbing - everyone would want the spotlight being first (hence commiesubs shit and groups redos)but no one wants to break their balls being marginally early/late
>>286623984You got angry they used the word drag instead of crossdressing?
>>286641964this is replacing onigiri with hotdog shit. don't hide over the original.
>>286641964Something about this tickles my jelly donut nerve.
>>286641775>Food for thought.Yes you are. Not sure if you thought it was too deep but even for a living thing such as a language there is a right and a wrong. If tomorrow everyone around you started calling apples to oranges it would still make all of them wrong. The same reasoning applies to things that are made right by law despite still being wrong.
>>286642677I dunno if its deep but what if instead of apple I say fruit, its not exactly wrong. It may change if there's a purpose behind it.
>>286642505The beautiful thing about soft subs is you can simply turn it off at the press of a keybind, or turn it on if you're having trouble reading the original.
>>286641964I understand how much effort this takes but is it really necessary? 日本語 looks aesthetic.
>>286642677>Yes you are.Well I disagree.As >>286640258 pointed out, it can become a nuisance.So you're not censoring yourself so much as the word, has in some languages like English, become deprecated due to cancerous people destroying it in various ways.At that point you're fighting a losing battle.
>>286642932Purpose is the wrong word. You mean reason and reasoning can only exist when the foundations of anything are strong. It's still wrong for your example since the meaning of the word apple is one and fruit another so whoever tomorrow asks you to eat fruit and you give them oranges and bananas while they say 'not that one' will get delightfully fucked.>>286643228I don't see a difference. If you start talking like the retards that fucked your language you are as retarded as them and also censoring yourself at the same time.
>>286639725It's not. From what I know the gems call each other with male nouns in moonspeak, so I presume they see themselves as guys, rather than ladies.
>>286643537If the apple is right there and I say "eat that fruit" or "eat the apple" neither are wrong.In the case of sex/gender...it means the same thing. It's not even apple/fruit where one is a subset. It's a synonym and means the same thing.
>>286632921Taka and DB were the same people. Same website layout, all timecop's doing
>>286643718I understand you're being pedantic and failing to understand what both you and i wrote previously so if you want to pretend that A and B are both A be my guest.
>>286623984Since most fansubs are dogshit I wrote a web app you can toss any video file at. It'll pull the audio and then make a subtitle transcription. It even pulls online data to get the proper names/nouns right.Been using it on my own shows. 55 languages of support.Want to get it in front of scene groups but no idea how.
>>286624155>ありませんだよねThat's not how politeness works, anon.
>>286644013ふざけないでくださいますぜ
>>286644013俺様はアノンといます
>>286643911>pretend that A and B are both AI'm failing to understand if I missed anything. If A and B in the dictionary def. is C. By definition they're both A. A=B=C. Is what a synonym is. I dunno. Is B more vulgar because it has alt. def. D? But not choosing the most vulgar word in all situations isn't censorship or we'd be insulting all the time.
>>286640258Prude.
>>286641775>I mean are you really self-censoring if everyone else is doing the exact same? Food for thought.I see, so things like: unalive, ahh, pdf-file and so on are now not self-censoring just because everyone does it?
>>286645241On an adjacent topic it's fascinating how zoomers are so fucking retarded that they saw algorithmic demonetization-dodging bullshit and thought their favorite content creator was making a funny joke they should work into their daily vocabulary.
>>286643718Sex is the physical form, which can be male or female.Gender is what a person is (or isn't) sexually attracted to and what they identify as.But sure, lets pretend they mean the same thing.
>>286645337>Gender is what a person is (or isn't) sexually attracted toOh, have they fully decided that it's problematic to have a different involuntary physiological reaction to seeing a vagina than a penis without considering how the owner of the vagina or penis feels? Interesting.
>>286645337>Gender is what a person is (or isn't) sexually attracted to and what they identify as.
>>286645474Pretty much why I also said it's not a real fucking word.
>>286645625It is a real word. It's a synonym for sex. Looney troons are just trying to redefine it to fit their political ideology.
>>286645625https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gender>(now sometimes proscribed) Sex (a category, either male or female, into which sexually-reproducing organisms are divided on the basis of their reproductive roles in their species). [from 15th c.]It's been a word for 600 years, stop letting them bully you into being retarded.
>>286623984use AI (SubtitleEdit does everything for you)
>>286624238simulcasting is the real death nail for fansubs, you can't beat it and hardly anyone is willing to wait for a fansub to come out. they want to watch the episode immediately and discuss it on their forum of choice.
>>286624106fansubbers did it for the epeen which doesn't happen anymore. also some of the old ones are now working professional translation jobs and kids now have no incentive to learn japanese.
>>286623984Yeah official subs are so assLearn Japanese and get Japanese subs or get Japanese subs and extract them and Claude translate them or something desu
