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Did Haki ruin One Piece? Was Haki a big mistake?

Ever since Haki was introduced, fights are getting more and more boring. I missed the days when Main characters used science, logic, and sucker punches to beat Logia devil fruit users
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is there any shounen that can go for years and years without suffering from some power creep
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>>286640673
I don't read this, tl;dr me.
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>>286640805
>I don't read this, tl;dr me.
OP is a mindbroken doomfaggot
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no
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>>286640673
It's just kind of a pointless power system. It contributes almost nothing to the story besides making logia fights slightly more boring. Punch harder and sensing attacks is just so lame I dunno what Oda was thinking.
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THE AUDACITY DOES THAT FOOL NOT KNOW WHOS HES DEALING WITH?
>gasp
THE PRINCESS OF THE SUN KINGDOM THE PRINCESS OF THE SUN KINGDOM
GET OUT OF MY WAY
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Haki improved One Piece and is among the best Shonen power systems.
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>>286642154
lol
lmao even
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My observation haki tells me there is another chainsawfag infestation.
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Nika improved One Piece and is among the best Shonen plot twists.
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>>286640805
There are a decent amount of high end characters who are pretty much elementals with an additional power of "can reform and are basically invincible" and required additional steps like get them wet before punching them if they're made of sand (for example)
To counteract this they wrote in kung fu magic that can hurt them
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>>286640673
>Araki introduces Stands with different solutions each
>Oda introduces Haki to avoid thinking of different solutions
The fact he turned CoC into a better CoA is even worse.
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>>286642296
What happened?
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>>286642389
Ending next chapter
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>>286642296
>>286642389
>>286642431
Go back to your shit threads spammer
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>>286642439
>Go back to your shit threads
But I'm already here.
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>>286642389
Pochita killed himself because the series is so shit.
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Without Haki, Logia fruit users have virtually no counters. In the case where you have their super specific comedic hard-counter, realistically they can choose their battles and just element dematerialize out of there. That's what Kizaru would've done if people brought handmirrors, or some shit, to reflect his light away.
>"Oh, that's very cute. Mirrors! My only weakness!"
>"Marines, shoot them!"
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>>286642439
>Go back to your shit threads spammer
Agreed for once.
Who gives a fuck about dead ass CuckShedMan or JAUN PISS when we got Hunter X Hunter Supremacy on the way?
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VOTE FOR ULTI!
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>>286642296
Welp, time for us to undergo another fallen shonen refuge.
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>>286642694
Curious if she can pass Reiju and Tashigi.
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>>286642668
Troon X Troon is shit and will never end kek. Maybe we'll get 10 chapters or so the next decade
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>>286642694
Black lingerie, always.
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>>286642668
What is a Hunter x Hunter?
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>Agreed for once.
>Who gives a fuck about dead ass CuckShedMan or JAUN PISS when we got Hunter X Hunter Supremacy on the way?
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>>286642861
Oda's favorite series.
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>>286642694
Already did
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>>286640673
It was ok when we found out about different kind of haki (like Katakuri) but it seems that Laughy and others can have all of them so that's dumb
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>ZEHAHAHA
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>>286642858
Uhm, Nami doesn't wear panties though
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>Rocks is alive
Nice retcon, Oda!
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Spoilers, doko?
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>>286642875
>Not even the Levely can afford decent lightning
The berri inflation has gone too far
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Haki 100% ruined One Piece
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>>286640673
>Was Haki a big mistake?
Armament and observation? No. Conquerors? Kind of
> I missed the days when Main characters used science, logic, and sucker punches to beat Logia devil fruit users
Literally only happened once nostalgia tranny
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I cried during Choppers flashback…
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Wait, are we on break week?
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It's kinda wild to see Robin nonchalantly slaughtering innoncents. Not knocking them out, just straight up killing them
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Slip-slip is really busted the more you think about it.
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>>286643257
Yes, but the Live Action Season 2 is out at least.
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>>286643137
Same
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>>286643264
Bitch's an awful person and deserves to die. My boy Spandam did nothing wrong.
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>>286642668
>CuckShedMan
lel
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>>286642668
Based HxH Chad.
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Mello that popular?
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>>286643264
Yeah there's a ton of devil fruits that would be completely broken as shit in the hands of someone more
Like beating Sugar was a massive undertaking that almost completely failed and she literally can do nothing but look cute
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Arlong looked so shit in the LA. Probably the worst character in terms of appearance.
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>>286643264
Is there some kind of enforced aversion to angry faces here? It took me a while to notice, but nobody in the Live Action seems to ever make a genuine angry face, especially when it would be most warranted.
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>>286643024
Break week, ask again in 6 days
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>Based HxH Chad.
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>>286643441
In that situation the appropriate emotions would be fear and confusion, not really anger. Doesn't Luffy look angry before he finishes off Arlong, anyway?
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>season 1 was in 2023
Fuck, where does the time go?
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How do non-anime fans react to the One Piece live action
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>>286642634
What makes you think Law > Rocks > Nami? Everything to my knowledge indicates the opposite order for them.
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>>286640673
Yes, the worst.
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>>286643264
She killed Igaram until Oda retconned it because he decided to have her be a crew member and couldn't do that if she'd killed Vivi's uncle figure.
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I voted Sanji, Garp, Gan Fall, Akainu and Sanji
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>>286642634
Kuma is definitely getting in the top 10. I wish Ace was forgotten already, what a shit character
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>>286643320
When did she get those?
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>>286643264
>Marines
>Innocents

Anon, did you forget how Robin was even introduced? He's been killing people to survive since she was child she had to to stay free, Crocodile even hired her because of her assassination skills, the one fight she had in Skypeia she straight up said she's going to kill that fat guy who damaged the mural, in water 7 her assassination skill was what was going to kill Iceburg she only spared him because her time with the straw hats softened her, Robin was a cold bitch before she met Luffy and only fully lost it after Ennis Lobby, the fact that we're seeing it is like when we actually got to see Zoro kill people with his swords like Mr.5 instead of implied death like Wiskey Peak, don't forget, Franky, Brook and Jinbei are murderers too, Jinbei only stopped because Arlong got way to into it for even Jinbei to keep going along with it and Nami sent many pirates to their deaths so she could take their treasures for herself before she met Luffy the only Sh's who haven't a corpse to their names are Chopper and Ussop, hell even if we add in Yamato she's taken lives before in Kaido's service as well
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>>286643707
>the only Sh's who haven't a corpse to their names are Chopper
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>>286643707
>add in Yamato
Crews full.
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Is there a way to filter out all the OPL fags
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>>286643755
lel
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>>286643801
Just get off the internet and go for walk with your gf.
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>>286643828
I'm Brazilian. I don't have a gf.
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>>286643828
>>286643851
There is a designated OPL thread active. Go discuss your Blackrock-owned Shartflix slop over there.
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>>286643755
who have ussop, sanji, nami, and franky fragged?

>luffy definitely caused people to die in impel down, the guards who were supposed to be protecting charlos and his family were likely executed for letting him get hit
>zoro killed the baroque works guy who came after him, during his career as a bounty hunter he probably turned some in dead
>robin is self explanatory
>brook was a soldier before he went pirate and probably has more than a few kills under his belt
>jinbe's been a pirate for long enough that hes definitely had to kill some people

>>286643851
your gf(male) then?
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the straw hats got the wrong power-ups post timeskip
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>>286642383
Nah, while I agree 100% Standa are more creative, innovative, clever, well thought out, etc etc it still remains the fact that it’s a headache to write around and starts entering too much of a good thing territory just like how Detective Conan gets into it’s own gimmick too much to the point we are now like 30+ years in with the same amount of canon holidays that the timeline is fucked. Basically what I mean is the complexity and nuance eventually has diminishing returns and puts off more casual readers which are the vast majority of readers for any manga.

Haki isn’t any of what the Stands are, and is basically a bootleg pirated version of wuxia cultivation. But even then, it’s pirated for a reason, because it works. As for CoC overlapping with CoA, it doesn’t look good at first glance sure, but it’s more about the message as a whole which is turning willpower into substance. If this wasn’t a battle shonen but a sports manga then CoC would be The Zone and would instead amplify speed, but since this is a battle manga what is a more powerful manifestation of will than turning into more brute strength? Even the whole deal of eliminating Imu’s gimmicks while CoA was previously the one to deal with logias is basically based around the idea that a conqueror/tyrant/overlord/etc is an unreasonable force of nature that imposes the users will on top of the enemy, so in essence it’s more about breaking the rules and proclaiming fuck the rules, i am the rules. CoA on the other hand is more like the physical reflection of that aka raw physique stat numbers, basically the confidence of what you have and what you are. This duality combined with the CoO’s thingy is very common nonsense in wuxia/Star Wars/etc.

Tl;dr Str = CoA Int = CoO Will = CoC. Having a mechanic where you add bonus damage based on Will isn’t new at all in rpgs let alone martial arts fiction.
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>>286643311
Pocket sand > Alvida
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>>286643973
it just slides off
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>>286643707
Yeah I know Robin canonically was an assassin, it's just odd so see it in action, especially against innocents.
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>>286644010
it's funny that she's a brainwashed slave, lmao
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How Nami navigates the ship
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when you think about it, it's crazy that robin got fishman karate instead of rokushiki. If anything, nami should have been the one who got fishman karate
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>>286643264
>innoncents
Marines.
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>>286643474
I hope live action Tacos becomes a thread staple.
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>>286644052
Tama's fruit effect wore off, and she chose to be with her.
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>>286643348
based
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>>286643531
It's popular. For some reason, older people like it.
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>>286642631
... except for seastone. And water. And the ocean. And also things other than just punching them. Like attacking them while they're not focused.
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Vote bepo
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>>286643441
why is he black?
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>>286644133
He had black parents.
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>>286644133
who? some random marine?
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Fapping to Bonney's soles
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>Netflixslop
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>>286644131
I'm already on it. Every single day until the polls closed for best Mink.
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>>286643441
>>286644133
>Now this is a black thing, isn't it?
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>>286640673
>MY HAKI IS STRONGER THAN YOUR HAKI
>NUH UH
>QUEUE BLACK HAKI LIGHTNING CLASH
>Then one piece goes on a break.


Its just so lazy that you may as well remove the whole devil fruit powers.
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>>286644153
>Netflixkino
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The Straw Hats need to incorporate sea stone into their arsonal.
Sanji - seastone tipped soles
Zoro -seastone tipped swords
Nami - seastone mirage tempo
Usopp - seastone shrapnel grenades
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>>286643604
So, Gem kills him actually that way Robin didn't when he was a decoy.
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>>286643540
Because Law has 1 more region higher while both Nami and Xebec have three so they're clashing.
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no stakes domi reversi
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Can we agree Netflix Sanji > Anime Sanji
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>>286644239
If you can kill them. If someone like Loki or Luffy got DR'd, everyone would die.
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>>286644094
Oh, he will and for my furra.

Voted for Carrot.
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>>286644252
Imagine if Netflix Sanji did the spinning around thing with heart eyes and shouting "Nami-swaaan" etc. They're actually pretty good at figuring out what weird shit to keep and what really wouldn't work.
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>>286644252
I love both.
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>>286643320
I don't remember PreTS Nami-chan wearing a pink bikini in the manga.
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>>286644343
Especially Nami not assaulting someone consistently. A lot of gags that don't translate well are suppressed or gone and it's for the best.
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>>286644252
100%
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>>286644354
Looks like her Spa Island filler swimsuit. The pink one with jiggle physics.
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>>286643642
Yumes just love him too much, Yams' debut adding to his relationships further gives him more love.
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>>286643679
She did go shopping during logue town
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>>286640673
>I missed the days when Main characters used science, logic, and sucker punches to beat Logia devil fruit users
Literally never happened lmao.
Logias were patient zero for all of this garbage.
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>>286642668
HxH GODS stay winning
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>>286644647
BASED BASED BASED
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>>286644252
He's actually not that different from what Sanji was like in the manga at that time. Sanji just got worse by a massive degree with the timeskip.
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>>286640673
paramecia should've been the only df type, as was originally planned in the earliest chapters
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>>286644647
HxH is shit compared to One Piece
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Alright, you've convinced me Kuma's braking 10. 1-9 have all shown up in regions so they're staying in place. Hancock falls, and I'm honestly curious if her being third most popular female can survive yume beloved Sabo which she did previously but this is Flame Emperor + Throne Room Sabo we're talking here.

It's going to be wild. Not only that but crowd favorite Loki has all the buzz to probably pass her too. It's a battle royale from Kuma to Yams who gets higher.
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We're over 2 million votes.
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>>286644733
I can literally tell just by reading the aura on your post that you don't believe your own words. Sad.
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pre-timeskip is pure sovl
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>>286644775
Romance Dawn, my love
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>>286644733
Oda says otherwise
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LA Robin = Sex
LA Tashigi = McLOVIN
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>>286644775
original Dragon Ball cover-art dinosaurs
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>>286644131
GLORY TO THE BEPPO AGENDA
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>>286644131
I voted Ulti as usual on my PC
I gave Bepo my phone vote today.
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>>286642883
That's Dragon Ball
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>>286643707
I wish this was never downplayed and we got to remember this is a story about pirates.
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>>286644158
>Every single day until the polls closed for best Mink.
This.
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>>286644263
Him and Sanji's actor voted for the Unluckies, btw
Nami's voted for Perona
Usopp's voted for Going Merry
Zoro's voted for Oden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7JQLoFrFw4
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>>286640673
When the answer to your opponents powers is
>Just use more Haki
>You need stronger Haki
Then yes you can realize how ass this system is, especially when used by Oda who 9 out of 10 times sucks at writing anything action related.
I rewatched this fight recently, it was pure sovl with both fighters using their DF powers creatively to their fullest extent, compare this fight to every fight Oda drew after the timeskip and things couldn't look more grim.
Haki should've existed only as conqueror Haki.
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>>286645107
The fuck did Lucci do creatively as a leopard man?
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>>286645194
NTA but he used it in tandem with his martial arts
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>>286645107
It's still weird to remember that our second seeing of Haki was the amazons using it for their arrows with no explanation, making people think haki was also something like sea prison
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>>286645397
That's not creative that's just him getting bigger and tougher
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>>286643264
There is no reason for her to go easy on Marines.
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>>286644098
Yeah, no shit, she woke up with the Beast Pirates defeated and with no escape.
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>>286645611
They’re effectively just blue collar civilians doing their jobs. Do you think all marines are the same as Akainu?
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>>286645699
They are military, and those grunts will shoot a baby if they are ordered to do so.
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>>286643264
Didn’t Robin straight up say she worked as an assassin and has done a ton of shady shit before joining the crew
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>>286640673
No, but it didn't help it.
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>>286645194
He used his tail to immobilize luffy several times in the fight especially when he did it to fire off his Rokuogan, he also used his six powers to tap into that lean Leopard zoan form, and also his DF is what allowed his Bachi and Shingan to hurt Luffy because he had sharp nails while in zoan form.
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>>286642085
Wapol is Imu?
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I think Ussopp is going to die in Elbalf and his death will be the reason why Luffy wants to kill Imu. Ussopp is going to get fridged. I'm calling it now.
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Total Pirate Death
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>>286645194
from how he's introduced (cold ruthless killer) he starts acting wild when he fights luffy in his transformed state
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>>286645736
to think this used to be an exaggeration lol
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>>286645871
They literally did that when they purged any potential kids Roger might have had. Most of the Marines don't give a fuck.
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i believe in captain buggy
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>>286641440
I would eat Nami's pantsu.
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>>286643264
zoro kills 99 guys in a row, and in a later episode nonchalantly talks about 'Luffy wouldn't like us killing, ....but when Luffy isn't around'
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>>286644920
This.
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>Zoro kills 100 agents at once
>Sanji kills a dinosaur with one kick
>Nami and Usopp beat Alvida
>Luffy can't even stop an ice cream golf cart
Why is LA Luffy so weak?
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When Luffy got haki is when Luffy stopped getting dogwalked by every two bit midboss with a DF power he hadn't encountered before
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>>286640801
Hunter x Hunter
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>>286645107
literally all luffy used his DF for in that fight was to punch harder
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>>286645699
They are all implicit in supporting the same system of cruelty and exploitation as Akainu.
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>>286645770
how is any of that creative? its just using a basic command grab, and stabbing harder
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>>286644920
Fagrot
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I can't believe Garling bought Big News Morgans!
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I'm glad the live action is letting Zoro be silly
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The goat
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>>286646179
>but when Luffy isn't around'
ain't no way blud lust
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>>286645107
>Luffy, Get up and punch harder
>*Then Luffy punched harder and won*
Conquerors becoming Super Advanced Armament is dumb though
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why are women like this?
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VOTE PERONA FOR A GHOST BLOWJOB
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>>286646749
Inflated ego to compensate for trauma
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>>286646749
Raped by ugly bastards since childhood
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>>286646596
I was so excited when he got his cameo
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>>286646369
That's no way to talk about your Duchess, Bepo.
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>>286646816
kek
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>>286644647
Carrotfag be quiet for ONCE
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HiatusXHiatus
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>>286644830
And that’s a good thing.
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>>286646749
Her back is broken due to too many hair pulls while being taken in the back in Marie Geoise.
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>>286646790
And Sommers....
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Laboon kills people and eats them... wtf
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>>286646979
Luffy is a manlet...
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Back during the early 2000s, Disney was considering making a One Piece movie. It was going to be changed to make the marines into pirates, since they didn't want the military to viewed negatively. Axe Hand Morgan was going to be the villain, and Luffy was replaced with Coby as the main hero and a love interest for Nami. Devil fruits were changed to magical amulets characters wore.
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>>286646749
>why are women like this?
Because meat
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>>286646979
6’1” vs 5’11
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>>286646749
Men will put up with endless autism just for a hint of that sweet nectar.
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>>286646979
Bellamy wasnt this huge preskip, what in the hell Oda
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>>286645107
Haki was fine before Advanced CoC
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Haki would be fine if it was actually varied. Include more types and don't give everyone and their dog reinforcement, also let characters exist without Haki match up in their own way. Like let Chopper in his Monster Form still be bigger, tougher, and stronger than all but the best reinforcers just like how he stomped Kumadori into the dirt.
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>>286647008
>meat
Meat?
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>>286647008
>>286647101
Moar
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>>286647101
>Meat?
Yes meat
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Haki

CoO
Presence Sensing
Precognition

CoA
Lifeforce Armor
Lifeforce Power Augmentation

CoC
Mindfuck
SUPER DUPER GIGA ULTRA NOVA LIFEFORCE ARMOR AND AUGMENT
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>>286647101
built for rimzuri
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>>286642931
>Fats D. Xebec
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>>286647202
What other wanted poster appeared?
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>>286640801
Fullmetal Alchemist, Edward never really got a power boost and used the same skillset from the start to the finish.
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Ulti my wife
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imagine if brook awakened his df and got the ability to summon undead how sick would that be.
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>>286647137
>Yes meat
I see, understood. Meat it is.
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>>286647270
no tournament arc either
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>>286647202
CARROT GODS
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>>286647242
Only watched episode 1 so far, didn't notice any others
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reminder that Marinne is the ultimate upscale

>No devil fruit
>Hypnosis has no weakness in the series
>Marinne can blend reality on her will

liveaction upscaled her powers, they knew she was broken
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>>286647274
Your wife owes me sex
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>>286647270
The power of female authors
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>>286640673
I always felt like there were better ways of dealing with the logia issue instead of just putting invisible (sometimes black) coating on attacks, despite that, haki still works in some instances, like future observation and armament/conquerors penetration, it makes powerful DFless characters feel powerful and show they can still compete at higher tiers of power.

It makes the fights feel a bit disjointed but Oda did the best it could be done with it, considering it's a weekly manga and sometimes you need more time to think things through.
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>>286647348
>>286647137
>>286647101
>>286647008
>>286646749
Margy's mommy is so erotic
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>>286647270
I can appreciate FMA for how grounded it was, there was never really a point where getting shot wasn't a problem for 99% of the characters. Even the Homonculus, if they got domed it killed them and they had to revive and regen from it.
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>>286647547
where i can vote
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So Robin likes to hit on unsuspecting girls in bars and bail.
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>>286640673
Guys, is the manga done yet? And what is John one piece? If it's "the friends we made along the way" I will both laugh and scream
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Um guys Margaret is gay for Hancock
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>>286643320
>Live Action Season 2 is out
is it any good? I liked season 1 Luffy and Sanji, they were good lads
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I have a very, very tiny penis...
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>>286647202
PEDORO SUGET
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>>286647658
>I have a very, very tiny penis...
Now Leo, you should know that that excuse won't deter Princess Mansherry.
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>>286647624
Yes, in the next chapter, Luffy got eaten by a random nightmare creature, and the Nika inside of him decided to ditch him and kill itself in a way that made it retroactively never exist in this world, so Luffy is back in Foosha Village. Truly a bold and revolutionary direction.
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>>286647658
Kiku...
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>>286642964
He is dead.
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>>286647692
>Luffy got eaten by a random nightmare creature
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES
I HATE BLACK-HAIRED BATTLE-BRAINED BIG-EATING SHONEN FAGGOTS
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>>286647101
>>286644619
Amazing milkers.
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crocodile the transman
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>>286647736
Built for Monkey D
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I want everyone to know that Boa Sandersonia wanted to eat Luffy as in soft vore him, shes a fucking cannibal
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>>286647736
Was Dragon that bad at sex?
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>>286647713
If you're attracted to this then you're gay btw.
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>>286647754
>If you're attracted to this then you're gay btw.
I don't care about your homosexual confessions closeted homo.
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>>286647736
this is libel, you have no proof.
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>>286647713
Tashigi's Tashigis are underrated
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>>286647784
I KNOW YOUR SECRET! HEE-HAW!
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I've voted for Katakuri a handful of times. He's not getting top 10, but bro deserves a high placement regardless.
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>>286647769
It is gay because Smoker is possessing her body.
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>>286647877
The Katakuri fight was so fucking boring
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>>286646188
Even a billion Netflix dollars can’t make stretchy powers look good in live action
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I NEVER want to see that stupid fucking NIGGER post his dogshit schizo MS paint drawing of cosplays he HIMSELF censored ever again.
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>>286647807
Dragon told you about our love child I haven't seen in 17 years? I'll kill him.
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>>286647929
he was still complaining because the costume department didn't make a mini skirt that was 1:1 from the anime that sat 3cm below Robin's navel instead of 1cm below Robin's navel because an actual person had to wear it and it wasn't just sewn into the underwear like a cosplayer did.
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>>286647877
i dont expect him to be too high, he hasn't done anything for a really long time, and I think Fujos might concentrate their efforts on someone else, like Law or Corazon.
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>>286647965
>>286647929
Kys you fucking shills

Nobody cares about the live action. It will never get past season 3 kek.
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The live action reminded me that this conversation happened literally at the end of Drum Island.

How the fuck does Kureha know about the Will of D? Her knowing Roger's name kinda makes sense cause of her age, but the Will of D isn't something that should be common knowledge.

How the fuck have we never had a flashback actually show who she is? She wasn't involved in any of the Roger or Xebec flashbacks, so why does she seem to be so knowledgeable?
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>>286647984
It's been approved far past that you stupid fucking faggot. YOU LOST, Go Kill yourself and stop shitting up every thread like the nigger you are.
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>>286647999
The world is a big place
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>>286643311
In my 15 years of watching one piece it never crossed my mind that sex with Alvida must feel like fucking heaven, and I just furiously fapped to the idea alone, anyway that's all I wanted to say
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>>286648014
keep coping you retard

Its never going to get past Alabasta lol. Netflix will never greenlit it because its too fucking expensive.
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>>286648031
>Head Cannon
Go to bed sharty,
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>>286647789
>Tashigi's Tashigis are underrated
You're not wrong
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>>286643264
Robin still having a conscience after the shit Gorosei did to her is a miracle
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>She won't reach Ennies Lobby at this pace.
god dammit.
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>Barto getting a live action bump for the popularity poll
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>>286648051
anon thats smokershigi...
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>>286648031
>Netflix will never greenlit it because its too fucking expensive.
its less expensive than Stranger Things, and pulls enough numbers to justify its existence
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>Live action garbage even when they have their own thread right now
I'm just tired of this place in general
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>>286644238
Thing is, the regions aren't equally populated. You have to account for Latin America having over 600M people, Europe having over 400M, Saxon America over 350M, Japan only around 120M, Australia/Oceania not even 50M, and so on. Law is beating Robin in Japan and Australia, but Robin is beating Law in the Americas which both have much higher populations. Then we have to talk about Asia, which may quite possibly represent over 4 Billion people even if we exclude Japan and the Middle East, and in Asia as well as Europe it's Nami who ranks 4th. Rocks has a slim chance of beating her, and Robin and Law have none whatsoever. On that basis, I conclude Nami > Rocks > Robin > Law. And what I didn't consider until now is that Ace's popularity in Asia might enable him to beat Robin and Law for 6th.
>>286644738
We seemed to have reached a general consensus: There's an obvious Top 3, an evident Top 9, and a bowl for 10th.
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>>286647101
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>>286648070
Western audiences don't give a fuck about One Piece.
The live action is less popular than actual shows from the west like HoTD.
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>>286648030
I would feel like fucking nothing, because there is no friction. Just you awkwardly slipping from position to position.
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>>286648074
One Piece is popular with normies now, deal with it
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>>286648063
Yeah, the math gets real bad from here on.
In the first two seasons, we got through Chapter 153. So that's 76.5 chapters.

Alabasta is 154-217-ish. 63 chapters. Jaya goes up to 236-ish (that's when they ride the knock up stream). So that would be about a season going by the same pace without big cuts.

Skypia goes till fucking 302. It's LONGER than Alabasta. If they were to do both, that season alone would have to cover almost as many chapters as the first two seasons, just to do 3 arcs.
Arcs just keep getting longer from that point too.
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>>286648075
Carrot/Yamato aren’t gonna make top 10 or even 20, most of their “fans” were nakamatards
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>>286648074
Mods don't care. They've been shilling this trash here for years and spamming slop when they get ignored.
>>286648093
Shut up the fuck up shill.
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>>286648093
>One Piece is popular with normies now

...according to my HEADCANON
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>>286648099
The live action really needs to drop unnecessary crap.
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>>286648099
thats why I think the best split is S4
Jaya + LRLL 2 episodes each, then start Skypiea and S5 the rest of it
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DIE FUCKER

DIE DIE DIE
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>>286648102
I think they have Top 20 in the bag. For Top 10 I think the closest are Kuma, Hancock, and Sabo.
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>>286647624
One Piece is Chainsaw Man, he ate himself
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>>286640673
Yes, but ultimately the problem is that Oda is incredibly uncreative as of a certain point and literally can't think of solving problems without punching
>I came up with these elemental enemies, how do we deal with them
>Punching!
>i came up with this dragon guy who's unbeatable and has 999DEF, and i already said punching won't work, how do we solve this
>Punching!
>Okay okay it's endgame and despite making Luffy too strong i need to still give him a challenge, i'll write in literally immortal enemies, how do we deal with them
>PUNCHING!!!!!
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>>286647999
the most obvious answer is that she was Roger's main physician in treating his mysterious illness, even if she never formally joined his crew.
Of course we know nothing about Roger's parents or childhood except that he was born in Roguetown
Her old age is potentially hinting that she's mastered Seimei Kikan and by extension, might have cultivated Rokushiki too. So maybe she was a Cipher Pol agent before she managed to go AWOL to become a doctor
It's also possibly she was involved in Brook's backstory. If true then Paradise is in no small part the Strawhats following in the footsteps of the Rumbar Pirates until they meet and recruit Brook.

She no doubt came to Drum Island during the reign of Wapol's father. Drum itself is meant to be juxtaposed with Alabasta re: how the changing of the crown changes the future of the kingdom, with Wapol himself contrasted with Vivi a lot. Vivi in turn is now getting shown to have a lot of similarities with Gunko, the latter seemingly being a Vivy type figure in her own kingdom only to be taken over by Imu and forced to kill her father and god knows what else, whom in turn was Brook's benefactor.

So it would make a kind of sense that she's so cynical about Drum if she's already seen this kind of collapse before in Brook's motherland, and also that she's so contemptuous towards Hiriluk desperately fighting to live just a little bit longer because she's comparing him to Roger that took his incurable disease in stride and spent his last few months getting his affairs in order before handing himself over to orchestrate his public last words.
I also got the sense from Hiriluk's own final speech that Kureha had talked to him about Roger a lot offscreen over the years
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>>286648135
Yeah, I really hope the LA will decide to tone down some of the setup fluff in the longer arcs.
Like, I think you could do all of Alabasta in 4 hours easily. But when they give Chopper's flashback a full episode of it's own, it's clear they don't care that much about pacing for some reason.
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>>286648154
Nah Kuma ain't popular enough for that.
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>>286647999
There were other D.s she could've met, like Clover
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>>286648168
Unironically too magnificent to be a SH. Loki joining would be like Shanks joining.
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>>286640801
Jojo is a weird case because it was originally all about power creep with constantly escalating Hamon powers. But then they switched to Stands and the power creep didn't just plateau, it outright reversed, with later parts often having ludicrously underpowered power sets. It's basically the bizarro version of how most shonen start out with everyone having unique powers but by the end everyone is throwing out generic energy beams and the winner is decided solely by who has the higher power level.
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>>286648088
this. it'd feel like trying to fuck a cloud of steam
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>>286648167
We don't know what happened with Gunko yet. Don't make too many assumptions.
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>>286648099
Anon... At this point you should be aware that if they go past season 3, the will definitely skip Skypie, and reducing it to one chapter for Mock Town, and one where they get to Sky Island, find the Bell, and go back to earth, no Enel, no Skypiea
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>>286648178
Boy are you in for a surprise.
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>>286643513
Honestly feels like longer ago
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Bonney in the top 10 will make mad some people
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LuVi bros we eating good Little Garden!!
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>>286640673
Haki is okay. Fights suck because they look like ass and Oda barely tries. Unless you are G5 Luffy, your attacks will look like swinging your weapon normally and teleporting behind the enemy while yelling a long-ass attack name.
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>>286648201
I think 1 episode for Jaya, 3 for Skypia is doable.
>1 episode to introduce Skypia and start Enel's game
>1 episode for the struggle against him and the flashback
>1 to wrap it all up and take out Enel
There's a lot to it that would be good to get done, but also a lot that really could be skipped.
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>>286648051
>>286647789
>>286647713
>Tashigi love
Thanks anons.
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>>286648222
You mean LuNami.
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>>286648186
I see two options:

1) Loki joins the crew.

2) He stays in Elbaph as its ruler, protecting it, and either meets Shirahoshi or deepens his bond with her.
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>>286648215
You think Bonney is beating Kuma? I don't.
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>>286643264
Why are the arms she summons with her ability the arms of a man?
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>>286648265
Loki won't become king of Elbaph. Its pretty obvious Hajrudin will rule the country as he inherited Harald's will.
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>>286648099
huge swathes of the sky island saga can be cut down or skipped
>Episode 1: mockdown, meet the divers and learn about Monte Blanc, get blasted up to the upper yard
>Episode 2: meet Gan Fal, learn about Enel, go up to the White White Sea
>Episode 3: Split up. Speedblitz most of Enel's midboss squad. Beat Enel. Read the Poneglyph. Go back down with the gold.
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>>286648162
What about...
Le slashing?
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>>286648294
Why not just go
>Episode 1: find the One Piece
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People really don't realize how short you could make even the later arcs just by writing out the 500 bullshit characters and distractions
If not for momo, kinemon and retainers we'd probably be in two piece now
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>>286648162
Now to be fair Kaido didn't die from punching, he died from the lava that he got punched into
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Nikafys attacks are boring, its just Luffy punching people not even in a flashy way just punching. At the least G4 forced Luffy to seriously add an aesthetic to his techniques.
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>>286648343
It's kinda crazy cause thinking back it really is just the ending parts of the big arcs that people remember so well. But at the same time I'm not sure if those bits would be as good without the amount of worldbuilding and buildup they got to get there.
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>>286648051
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>>286648343
I would miss Cuteku, in my soul
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>>286648374
Trust me there is a looooooooot of "buildup" you could do without
Dressrosa was long as FUCK and a lot of it is still contingent on how important the grand fleet will be
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Okay

Would Wano get a whole season dedicated to it assuming we get there? Or will it be a 4 episode thing with the other 4 being WCL before it?
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>>286648428
Wano is such a shitshow it might need a complete rewrite, or previous arcs building up to it might be rewritten so honestly it's impossible to tell
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>>286648428
they will never get to Wano in the live action
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>>286648443
>>286648450
ok

but who will play Kiku and Oden?
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>>286648271
Because the live action remake is shit
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>>286645865
Vote well spent
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>>286648428
its pretty clear which are the 'major' arcs in one piece and which are shorter adventures
Alabasta, Ennies Lobby, Marineford, Wano. These are the ones that'll get a whole season. Everything else will be crammed into the seasons between these
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>>286648428
Wano season 1: Act 1, 2 and the Oden flashback
Wano season 2: Act 3
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>>286648276
No way. The logical and one true King of Elbaf is the biggest and baddest fucker around. Hajrudin is generally strong and solid king material, but he's not even remotely comparable to the total freak of nature that is Loki who hard-mogs every single giant and the entirety of Elbaf. Loki will rule, and Hajrudin will continue to lead his crew.
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>>286648450
is this your last cope, bikinischizo?
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>>286648462
>Oden
Hiroyuki Sanada
>Kiku
the cutest womens basketball player in Japan



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