Let's be real now, the only reason why anyone would want a CSM part 3 is because they don't want part 2 to be a most pointless thing ever. But what makes people believe part 3 will be better than part 2? It is clear Fujimoto has been running on fumes for a long time and has no idea what to do with the series anymore. I would respect him if he has the integrity to just end the series and move on, rather than continue to milk a cow that is dry like Murata and ONE for OPM.
chainsaw go brrrr
>>286648592Japs actually like this shit?
>>286648592Yes. Yes I do. Part 2 has been great.
I SAID BRING ME PART 3NOW
>>286648592No. I want this shit to finally end with the most pathetic, embarrassing wet fart imaginable. Shart Poo was an insult to manga and CSMsissies should be laughed at
>>286648706The person that wrote this comment uses the bathroom in a public river.
>>286648726>The person that wrote this comment uses the bathroom in a public river.>self-hating jeet can't writeFucking KEK Thanks for the laughs CSMakhar
>>286648592Are they talking Japan? America? What is this?
>>286648706This./thread*spits on chainsoy's grave*
>>286648592Yeh.
>>286648592>[Sad News] This shit always makes me laugh.
part 3 will bring back Makima and it will be good again
>>286648592So it turns out everyone hates pt2 outside of a few reddit and 4chan schizo contrarians? [GOOD NEWS]!
>>286648592Hell no. Part 2 sucked, it should have ended with part 1.
>>286648963that's so sad
>>286648592I guess I am the only person alive who likes Part 2. It seems like a lot of the complaints about Part 2 are that it isn’t essentially a slice of life where Denji ends up happy or that the original cast doesn’t magically reappear. Part 2 is actually a tragedy in that Denji regresses and dooms the world. There is a panel where Denji talks about how he no longer just wants 1 girlfriend, but 10. And this was back in the ending of Part 1. I do not know why people act like this was a surprise. I personally like the new Part 2 characters like Asa and Fami. I just don’t think Part 2 is a good ending to the series. It does not resolve all of the loose ends, even with a time reset.
>>286648592Is that a nip website?
He clearly ran out of ideas immediately after Aki died and then haphazardly cobbled together a good enough ending. Part two has always been a joke, he did it literally just for money.
did they explain why the chainsaw devil can erase the existence of other devils yet?
>>286649099Nothe closest we got was characters speculating that chainsaws must have had some other, grander purpose they were originally invented for which has since been erased by Chainsaw Man
Can't say I do, no. Part 2 has been a meandering waste of time.
Of course not. This is the perfect ending for denji. He's a piece of shit who deserves no satisfaction.
>>286649122Chainsaws erase trees, it makes perfect sense
>>286649156that's a contradictory statement. Denji got sent back to the point in his life where his day to day satisfaction was at its maximum. If you believe he doesn't deserve satisfaction then you should hate this ending and want Denji to continue to be stuck in the position of finding everything he chases to be mind numbingly disappointing once he gets it. You should want him to have sex and be extremely bummed out by how sex failed to live up to the hype
>>286649176>Chainsaws erase trees>Paper comes from trees>Manga is printed on paper>Therefore chainsaw devil can erase things from existing in the mangaBravo, fujimoto
>>286649028I actually like part 2 but I hate that this is how it’s ending
>>286649206t. coping denji self-inserter
>>286648592I don't read it but the most recent thing I heard about it was:>People bitching about how the story feels like its dragging on and should have ended>Current chapter has Pochita eat himself and 'forever erase chainsaw man'>Now people are BITCHING AGAIN because now the 'ending feels too sudden'Make up your goddamn minds
>>286649374it's almost as if pacing and timing are important aspects in story telling
>>286649325>self-inserterI'm a voyeuristic reader
The new chapter is fine in a vacuum.It's only atrocious if you were invested in the other characters, storylines and plot points but on its own...it's a nice chapter.
>>286649549what can one be invested in p2the author went out of his way to kill the key characters, or alienate them from the reader, or not include them at all>nayuta got off screened>the governments anti-demon workforce was positioned as antagonist to the mc>kobeni, reze, the old guy were never introduced>the well established devils had their goals obfuscated until later in the story, followed with unclear plot gymnastics with mind control or being simply removed via being eaten>asa is off screen doing some stuff, and then war devil becomes the "big bad" while the plot doesnt take her seriously since denji doesnt think shes big bad>surprise bug peopleFujimoto put a lot of work into making the end of p2 not feel significant to the reader.
>>286648592I'd like a Part 3 because I enjoy Fujimoto's characters and the devil designs
>>286648592it wouldn't be pointless because it showed the consequences of denji's actionspeople want part 3 because seeing p1 characters again would automatically be good, and there's still loose ends
>>286648592>Do you even want a Chainsaw Man part 3I didn't want a part 2, I was ok with where part 1 ended, it wasn't the greatest manga ever or anything, but it was suitable enough, even if the later arcs where already getting weak. Part 2, tried, for like a volume to do something new, but then the shitiest version of Denji from the later arcs of part 1 came back and everything went to shit and the worst part was people trying to pretend the never ending string of nonsense had some profound message. I'm happy Denji gets a shit ending, that's what he and all the readers including me deserve.
>>286648592Part 2 was fine. Don't get me wrong, it was definitely a downgrade from part 1; however, I don't think it was absolutely dog shit. Asa was cute and a fun character. Getting rid of Power and Beam was brain-dead retarded, they were some of the most fun characters and their absence was felt in the manga.
did he just get bored or something?
what was the point of Asa as a character?
>>286650208More like he got rich
>>286648592NopeWe’ve already seen hell, the death devil, primordial devils, the weapon hybrids excluding Reze for unknown reasons, and Denji’s home and school life. There are no waters left for a part 3 to tread upon and at this point given how Fujimoto’s art has declined, how many breaks he takes on a regular basis, all the abandoned characters and plot lines, and what an over all cluster fuck part 2 was, I wouldn’t even want a part 3
>>286650231she was the original mc of p2 before denji was unfortunately brought back
>>286650231Ass
>>286648592Esl retard thread.
>>286648592Let me guess, another manga ending that everyone will call the worst thing to ever exist until the anime adapt it and then everyone will say it was actually great.Why does this happen the 100% of times?
>>286650502It's not happening here.
>>286648592On one hand, I really wish there was a part 3 that could redeem that awful part 2. On the other, after part 2, I no longer trust that Fujimoto can or even WANTS to bring Chainsaw Man back to what it was in part 1. Probably better to accept the end rather than be dragged around for years running on pure hopium. It would take a hard reboot and a borderline de-canonization of part 2 to even get my guard down. Which is a shame, because I was honestly fine with the first half of page 2.
CSM Part 3: Denji becomes a much better person than before (though he doesn't seem happy) and lives an ordinary life until he diesCenturies later... The world is enveloped in snow, starvation, and madness
>>286650231shes just another fujimoto girl
Please I need someone to help to defend part 2. I'm desperate for people with shit reading skills to tell me why a bad thing is good. PLEASE.
>>286649099this never needed an explanation
>>286649374>People bitch about being too cold>Set them on fire>Now people are BITCHING AGAIN because they're 'burning' and 'in horrible pain'Make up your goddamn minds
>>286650502Anyone who actually cares about a series will keep up with the manga because it's the version of the story that's furthest along.People who care are more likely to be upset about a dogshit ending that makes them feel like an idiot for caring.Animeonlies watch anime as background noise and only occasionally look up while they scroll on their phones.
>>286649028It's not tragic enough, all Denji's bad decisions are getting undone, it will feel pointless to read in the future.
>>286651262More like it didn't need such a contrived "explanation"
>>286651200Either it's a setup for Part 3 or we're getting pranked and this is an illusion/nightmare caused by the devil.I don't have any more copes. I don't think just the final chapter can undo the damage done.
>>286651886no, it never needed an explanation to begin with. what good does it do for the the entirety of chainsaw man on why he's able to do that, it literally serves nothing for the story even if the reason wasn't contrived. it's just an established fact of the universe they are in that the chainsaw devil has this power
>>286651971We were told there was a much bigger reason behind this, several times
He won.
>>286652052he jobbed harder than any of them
>>286652049literally when, we're told that pochita is feared by devils for a reason, and that reason is because he can literally erase them on a conceptual level. give me one panel where the reason he can do that is important
>>286648592You only have this sentiment if you were too dumb to not realize that part 2 would lead nowhere and didn't drop midway through. For me chainsaw man ended with part 1 perfectly fine. I know fukumoto can write good stories but part 2 was solely done for the money. I forgive you fukumoto, now drop the series and start your next one
>>286652077It doesn't matter wether it is important or not, I just wanna know why he can erase devils, let alone conceptsAt least one reason other than just because
>>286652111it adds literally nothing too the story besides giving the reader retarded satisfaction over something that is not important
>>286652128How is that not important? It is the biggest plot convenience in the entire manga
>>286648592I absolutely don't want part 3, and I hated part 2. I think he should let CSM go and do something else. Part 1 will forever be a masterpiece, independently from how shit part 2 is.
>>286652147because WHY he can do it doesn't fucking matter, what matters is the effect it has on the characters and the world in the story, the entire story is built around the fact he has the power not the reason behind it. you need to tell me what you think it adds. if fujimoto provided an explanation what purpose would it serve to the overall story, what changes other than appeasing retards that think every minute detail needs to be explained, it's no difference than fucking evangelion where faggots get mad about the multitude of plot relevant objects or ideas that have no real explanation when clearly their only purpose is to be a vehicle to drive the story along
>>286652213like holy fuck, in pulp fiction the entire story is built around a fucking brief case that we never get to see what's actually inside of it are you also going to start complaining about this too. all you need to know is that it's important
>>286650208he got bored back in aging arc.
>>286648592yesjust because there are so many unanswered questions and its such a shit ending if it ends here
>>286648592i do
>>286652147It's not important because the reason why the chainsaw devil came about was erased, answering what was erased just makes it convoluted.
>>286648592I want to know where are blood devil and Kishibe, idc about anyone else, so yes Part 3 is needed.
>>286648649No. The top comments under that chapter were all negative on Jump Plus.
>>286648592I want Reze back so yeah, give me a part 3. Probably won't be the case but a broken Ma can dream.
I didn't even want a part 2 and it's so terrible that even the glazers are hating the ending. Part 3 would just be more of the same. Fujimoto has used all his ideas and we all know what he's like now - he literally can't create any new ideas.
>>286649028I was never thinking Denji would be happy in part 2. I was thinking he was going to be happy in Part 3. He would be dating Asa, maybe its revealed they even broke up at the start of part 3. But he would be happy
>>286648592>Denji never tried to find the new blood devilFUCK THIS SERIES
>>286658163Getting rid of her was the downfall of this series. Mangaka's should not get rid of their interesting characters.
>>286648592Fuck no. Manga should've ended at Part 1.
Part 3 would be written by the same guy who wrote part 2, so no I don't want part 3.
>>286648592If you think of Denji as fujimoto's self insert, you can contextualize the CSM ending as Fujimoto despising his newfound fame and wishing he could return to a time before Chainsaw Man existed. So he makes the shittiest ending possible to spite its fans and remove it from public limelight.
>>286648592No reason to continue without Pochi
>>286651916If it’s an illusion and Yoru saves Denji from this hell I will become a Yoruden shipper exclusively
>>286648592Yes even more so now than during the middle of part 2Wiping the slate has reinvigorated the foundationsGranted maybe I say that because I have no attachment to anything in the story. I'm not convinced that the Aki Power Denji trio were actually that much of a friendship group. I don't care about Reze. Asa was interesting but is gone now. Let's see what the Denji does in his natural habitat.
>>286652147It's not a contrivance because it doesn't get used to solve problems in part 1.Thus it's more like a premise or part of the setting.
>>286658163>Chapter 232>Denji all alone in the woods about to die>Blood Devil shows up hoping to create a new fiend like they did with Power>Makes a contract with Denji>Part 3 is Blood Man
>>286665599I would Pogchamp IRL
>>286648592I'm genuinely embarrassed I ever got into this series, this to me is worse than Cuckren
>>286648592Yeah. I don't know how I could trust that nigger with a third part after this. This is basically "screw you guys, I'm going home": the ending. I honestly don't remember any (long running) manga that ended this abruptly after all that fucking buildup.
>>286651840Nah, it makes sense because we've already seen in real time what those decisions lead to. Let's say there's a part 3 that continues after this ending, it would be a ghost of christmas to come situation. A fine storytelling pattern.Execution though is another matter and part 2 is just not good.
>>286649206>Denji got sent back to the point in his life where his day to day satisfaction was at its maximumBut he had no future. Even leaving aside plot contrivances like "he would die of heart disease without pochita", the life he lived before part 1 started might have been fine in the day to day but it was leading nowhere and had no exit.Denji tried to grow up and failed. If, and only if, there is a part 3, it only makes sense it would be about the redemption of his character arc.
>>286650502The wider anime audience is also more casual. Casuals tend to like everything. It's a common pattern when getting into any hobby or consumption that you will like everything before finding discernment through experience.
>>286648592Chainsawman sucks, I didn't even want Part 2
>>286648592Fujimoto clearly doesn't want to be a mangaka anymore. Let him commit career suicide in peace.
Wait, there is going to be a part 3?
>>286669383I disagreeBack then Denji was working towards paying off his debt. He also had dreams like eating jam on toast.Now he's back in that position he has those dreams and motivations so he will move forward and thus have a future. Also now he can design piecemeal the life he wants to live rather than get dropped into an elaborate holding pen by someone else
Part 1 and 2 are very structurally different, but it feels by design. I never got the impression that the story was being written from week to week or that nothing was planned out. But I do think many things were intentionally written to seem like the setup to something only to not really matter in the end.Is Haruka Iseumi going to go anywhere?Is Nobana Higashiyama going to go anywhere?Is Famine going to do anything or be relevant?Is the fake Chainsaw Man going to be something big?Is the freckles girl who kept being shown ever going to be relevant or be named?And I don't think any of it is. The arcs feel unstructured and blend together after the very first, characters pop in and out of the story, and it seems to be building up to something until it isn't and the world is now in enough of a terrible state that Pochita just decides to eat himself to reset everything to some unknown state that we can't even predict. But what matters is that what happened didn't matter, it was about the moment to moment enjoyment. I understand the inspiration from The Big Lebowski. There is a humor in setting up endless Chekhov's guns only for them to not matter too much. Everything became めちゃくちゃ like a fever dream, things happened with seemingly no explanation, like Denji and Fumiko suddenly getting into a Hotline Miami mass brawl at karaoke while she sings Maximum the Hormone. It's a stream of consciousness of chaos and violence.But I still enjoyed it in its own way even if part 1 was far more conventionally enjoyable, and it feels funny to ever say that Chainsaw Man was conventional. I'd like to reread part 2 with the greater picture in my head instead of reading a chapter of a somewhat disjointed story every 1-2 weeks. I didn't think part 1 needed to be continued in the first place even if it had material it could work with, because it told its story with its themes and established its world.
Remember CSM? That was a good manga.
>>286670056I miss this fucking loser like you wouldn't believe
>>286670085Remember Aki? Loved that nigga
Remember Powah?
Remember when CSM ended? Things felt a little hectic after the gun devil, but he managed to wrap things up tastefully.
>>286670125I liked him too, and I liked Brobeni. But I liked Brobeni because he was Kobeni 2. And this was right after Bat Devil 2 with Save the Cat 2 and Eternity Devil 2 and Chainsaw Man 2. It was both cyclical and cynical. It's so strange to think about how experimental he got with the structure of the story. Apart from the quality of the art decreasing with time, I never felt like it was written worse, but part 1 was so much more focused. Power is introduced and relevant to the story, Power acts as inconsequential comic relief and gets some bonding with Denji and Aki, Power gets written out of the story for the Reze arc, Power goes back to being inconsequential comic relief while also establishing everyone's mortality and what that means in the context of the story's themes, Power is killed so fast and traumatically for Denji, Power returns at his lowest to save him and show that more than his trauma mattered. It's not like she was written with all these solo fights like any other battle shounen. When she wasn't relevant, she'd be off-screen somewhere not dragging out the story. It's not "this character exists to fight Zoro and this character exists to fight Sanji".And that's essentially what happened in part 2, but there was no resolution with a number of characters, they were just left trapped somewhere never to be seen again.
>>286668536The only one I can think of are ones that ended because of outside reasons, someone died/they're getting canned cause they did something
>>286649305Same.
>>286649028I feel like all the points about regression could have been made just as well if not better without stringing the reader along for 100 chapters.
I like part 2 because I am a self destructive striver just like Denji.Never have I related to a character more than I do that fuck up.Horrible things occur as a direct consequence of his selfish urges, opportunities squandered consistently, and undeserved blessings flow into his life.He's just like me. For reals.
>>286648592I really don't think Part 3 will be very good, but I still do have some interest in one happening.
>>286670085>>286670146>>286670163>>286670204I rememberThat was a good endingA shame part 2 was canned and we will never see it!
>>286649028Part 2 is too long of a manga to watch Denji repeat the same mistakes over and over again and to fuck up the world beyond all repair because of his shitty personality and for me to nod my head saying, "I get what you're going for, Fuji". Part 2 is like 12-13 volumes long, and most of that is totally skippable or is redoing what mistakes and behavioral cycles Denji already did.You know what other series are 12 volumes long? Helck, Dungeon Meshi, Land of the Lustrous, Hellsing. Is there any world where I'm going to read Chainsaw Man Part 2 and not those series?
>>286650231Turns out she existed only in service of Denji. No more of her own protagonist than Power or Reze were.
>>286650231Fujimoto's transexual self-insert.
>>286648592Fuji is king.
>>286648592
>>286652148good art
>>286672038I knew from the title of the chapter that it was going to feature a hug between Denji and Pochita, and seeing it with this Pochita was niceThis is one of those chapters that feels completely in line with Chainsaw Man as a whole, but only with part 2 in the sense that it's a bit of a non sequitur with the stuff that story had been building around.Insects becoming top of the food chain and the things feared most by humans with the absence of death is a perfect extension of ideas introduced in the story, how removing concepts puts the natural order of things out of whack. But the themes of the story aren't about that, so it's not like the story needed to show it.Pochita eating himself (his own heart) also feels like a natural story conclusion, but it only came about because everything else fell apart, it's a reset button, a forcible end to a story that just kept goingI want to see where Denji is in life. Will he be the only one who remembers, since he had become Chainsaw Man? Will he still be missing his organs like his eye, testicle, and kidney? Will he be suffering from the heart disease that killed his mother? Will the other conclusions to life be around? With World War II and nuclear weapons restored to history, would the Soviet Union be Russia? Is it our world, and did Chainsaw Man's existence influence the existence of devils as a whole? What characters would be alive? I feel like all of these can't be definitively answered in one chapter. Like we aren't just going to see Aki and an adult Taiyou walking together down the street, but have that for every single character who ever died.
>>286650502Promised Neverland as both were hated to different degrees
>>286672334Key word here being "adapt", TPN barely adapt anything for the anime.
>>286650502No, this ending is more like putting down a sick dog, the entire second half of the manga is pure shit.
Kishibe will show up and save Part 2. Just wait.
What was the point of this character?
>>286673770To tease some hypothetical perfect girl for denji only to then rip it away because the author thinks he doesn't deserve it
>>286673784But we had Reze..... I like Asa more.
>part one is Denji finding his own niche in the world>part 2 is Denji losing that niche and coming to terms with the fact that he'll always be that loser perfectly fine with eating up slop given to himI want part III to be him fighting to get back his bro no matter what and really facing the losses in his life.
>>286674082>I want part IIINo, fuck you!
What if sequel series instead
>>286674163Man Man!
>>286674230>>286674230>Manny, my best buddy that helped me hunt devils...>was actually the Man Devil!
>>286648592I don't solely so Yuji can gorilla-pound Denji in the inevitable death battle episode
>>286673770She was supposed to be the main character in part 2, she was supposed to just turn Denji into a weapon. For whatever reason that idea was dropped and Denji got brought back as the MC and her role diminished to just being War's host.
>Fumiko ends up being the most important character of P2 behind denji>asa doesn't get an ending>famine never did anythinglmaooooooooo
didnt they establish that even when a devil is eaten the concept isnt permanently awaylike people forget the name or whatever but then it can come back
>>286648592QRD on part 2 please.>denji picks up control/conquest respawn>war/death/pestilence show up for a while and fuck with him, need him to burp up things eaten long ago>control/conquest is dead again already in another anti-climaxLast I knew denji was stuck in basically a limbo hiding.
>>286674509>She was supposed to be the main character in part 2, she was supposed to just turn Denji into a weapon.Did Fujimoto confirm this?
>>286674862The Japanese government made a pact with Aging Devil to let Chainsaw Man eat it if they murdered a bunch of children, Yoshia, Denji and Yoru outsmarted them then America rediscovered nuclear weapons, Yoru became the most powerful devil, went to hell to gather minions, came back to challenge Pochita, Denji ate the Death Horseman, bugs ate everyone, Pochita decided part 2 was retarded and noped the fuck out
>>286674862Because of Fire devil the world goes to shit and people start to fear War more.War becomes more powerful and somehow recovers all her followers/spawn including the atomic bomb. War fights Chainsaw. She basically wins, but Denji bullshits himself away every time, his last gambit is eating Death it creates a world in which their fight will never end. Without Death the population of bugs skyrockets and the start to eat everything, including the living, since death isn't a thing anymore, they just suffer in perpetuity getting reduced to nothing by bugs, bugs become the most feared thing in the world, bug devils become powerful and come after Chainsaw. Denji gets oneshoted by one of the bug devils and Chainsaw gets eaten. Chainsaw decides he had enough of Denji's dreams and eats his own heart.
>>286648592hell no
>>286674981>>286674987Pochita ate Death, because Denji refused to eat Yoru. Denji tried to have both Asa and Yoru and it ultimately caused the world to end... themes and such
>>286674934The first promotion material we ever got for part 2 was Asa holding the chainsaw-man's chainsaw.Of course it never lead to anything, but one of the plot threads that went nowhere was War wanting to convert Chainsaw into a weapon.
>>286648592part 3 will have blood devil.
no thanks. fujimoto should stick to short stories. he gets bored of his own stories and characters too quickly.
>>286675061There isn't going to be a part 3, it'll be 11 pages of the Blood Devil turning Denji's one balled one eyed corpse into a Fiend that Makima picks up and that will be the happy ending
>>286650708Is it just the spinning wheels people don't like? Not the downward spiral into failure/being a complete piece of shit?
>>286675086Denji won't even show up in the chapter, It will be a chapter of Asa's regular school life, at the very end she'll think about how much of a retard Denji was, since she is the only one to remember everything because of Yoru.
The only way part 3 could be any good is if Yukinobu Tatsu joins as an assistant (read: ghost writer) again
Part 3 is a prequel to Fire PunchBigname all want to do this
>>286648592Thanks for making me regret not checking out part 2. Now I can just pretend it never happened.
how we feeling rezekeks lmao
>>286651200It's a fucking teenager soap opera, I can't defent that shit.
>>286674163>>286674230homeless man!
>>286648592Fuck noHe needs to drop the series, take a year or two to actually figure out a story (at least the start and end of it because holy shit) and make something entirely new
>>286676462he already took off 2 years for part 2 to pre-write the story beats and you see the result we got out of itin general it feels like the more freedom you give fujimoto, the worse his writing getshe complained about the strict page count in WSJ, then when he switched back to J+ he only delivered the absolute minimum required
>>286676497Then i guess he just needs to quit
>>286676506I liked his idea of going author-only. perhaps the double workload is too much for him to handle.
>>286673770Giving a meat suit to Yoru.
>>286671595Seriously. More than half the chapters end on Denji screaming "WOAH DUDE, SEX!!!". We get it fujimoto, he's a fuckup, if you're not gonna make him progress in any way can you please move the story along instead of just reusing the same juvenile punchline over and over?
>>286650502No. Chainsawman part 2 actually has pacing and narrative issues. Zooming out, even if we get a Part 3 I suspect Part 2 will forever be seen as the black sheep. Not enough happened, and it took way to long.
>>286670056>There is a humor in setting up endless Chekhov's guns only for them to not matter too muchThere is! And I would've respected it more if the art coupled with it were stronger.There is a huge and very real part of me that felt the entire time this was published that Fujimoto didn't want to be writing any of this. I must be wrong but I still don't see his vision
>>286676626>There is a huge and very real part of me that felt the entire time this was published that Fujimoto didn't want to be writing any of thishe warned us before part 2 even started
>>286652148I'm mad about the hugging panel because it's poignant imagery between Denji and Pochita and under normal circumstances it would have been tugging on my heartstrings, but it's being delivered with the shittiest message in the whole story and I hate it. There is a world where this was kino and I'm not living in it. Instead it just makes me wish I had spent all the time I spent reading this series engaging with something else or turning off my computer going for a nice hike outdoors.
>>286649028Part 2 could have been good but too many plot points were dropped for seemingly no reason, i didn't care Reze didn't return but you'd think Kishibe or Quanxi would play more of a role considering the story.
Was CSM cancelled? Or was this intended all along?Ever since they returned to the school and death showed her panties, yoshida exploded, exposition galore etc etc, it gives off the stink of a rushed ending due to cancellation.
>>286676810Axe man won in the end
Same cowardly ending as Legion.
What le shit?I just learned about this.Our guy Redditochita is kill?At least Asa-chan and Yoru-chan were cute.
>>286676810I'll assume it was intended because I'm over caring too much about this all. It is what it is. Just like with other franchises, if the sequels suck, at least the original still exists.
I liked part 2
Escapism BADOrdinary Life GOOD
>>286649614>>nayuta got off screenedHe was a total fuckwad for introducing her and then offing her like that.
>>286676941If by ‘ordinary life’ you mean dying of heart disease while being enslaved by the yakuza, sure…
What was the point of NayutaWhat was the point of killing her to do nothingWhat was the point of AsaWhat was the point of hinting at Reze after her arc to do nothing and forget she existsWhat was the point of Power talking about the Blood DevilWhat was the point of undoing Denji's entire arc, pointing back and saying you were stupid for caring about him in part 1 because apparently he's always been irredeemable?What was the point in general
in the end, the reze movie really was the peak of the franchise
Since when can Pochita overwrite reality? Didn't erased things just disappear and nothing more?
real talk Famine might actually the most nothing burger character in the entire series
>>286677054Counter-argument: YoshidaWhy he is worse: people expected something out of him and got absolutely nothingFami came and went
>>286677054She was literally just introduced so fanartists could have a design to work with when making ‘4 horsemen’ artwork, that’s all.
>>286677032The International Assassins arc is an easy hit, but after that, what will Mappa even do with this shitshow?
>>286677076nothing? they will end it at part 1 and leave it there.
>>286677069Yoshida fit the struggle for normal life motifFamine legit didn't do anything beyond the completely unecessary death devil twist
>>286677042Pochita is The Asspull devil now.
>>286677054And the ‘this isn’t actually Death, *this* is!!!’ plot twist was the most useless and meaningless plot twist in the history of mankind.
>>286677092this retarded twist cemented my opinion that any dogshit "pochita isn't actually the chainsaw devil!!!111" would have been the worst thing he could write.The fire <-> justice switcheroo and "I'm actually not Fami" reveals were forgotten by the readers by the next chapter because they had such little impact.
>>286677019>because apparently he's always been irredeemable?This is and always was the real Denji, he never changed/ grown or anything. Him taking care of Nayuta was just a temporary bump in the road and meant nothing.
>>286677076Add unending filler to the rest of Part 1 so they can stall and hope everyone forgets how much Part 2 sucks by the time they have to animate it.
>>286677118>"pochita isn't actually the chainsaw devil!!yfw when there are no more devils next chappy because pochita was the devil devil
>>286677127Thanks, Fuji
>>286677160>yfw when there are no more devils next chappy>no more devilsIf anything there will be more devils, since by retconing himself out of existence all the demons he ate will come back. It's not like getting killed by him is the only way to earth.
>>286676647Yeah this and his fakesawman worship/csm fan club always felt like a meta cry for help
>>286677301NAZIS ARE BACK THANKS TO DENJI’S DICK
>>286677413>THANKS TO DENJI’S DICKdon't forget AIDS, poor Fumiko
>>286677413SO IS THE STAR THAT BREAKS CHILDREN'S MINDS, THANKS DENJI'S DICK.
In retrospect she was so fucking wrong, she just didn't like her sisters did she?
>>286677602>she just didn't like her sisters did she?And she was fucking right for that.
>>286650502A part 2 anime at this point would be an unimaginable waste of time and money on mappa’s behalf, they might do another part 1 movie but that’s it, fujimoto has already killed the franchise’s good will
>>286677602Don't apply part 2 to part 1, it's obvious Fuji didn't care enough to look at what he wrote before he made part 2.
>>286677602She just wanted to get bugged
>>286677679>it's obvious Fuji didn't care enough to look at what [Yukinobu Tatsu] wrote before he made part 2.ftfy, we still pretending CSM part 1 was all Fuji?
>>286677665>Part 2 by JC staff!
>>286677698If this is true, then I'm glad.
>>286677019>What was the point of Nayuta>What was the point of Asaso he could draw young asian girls>What was the point of hinting at Reze>What was the point of Power talking about the Blood Devilhigh iq move to fool us into reading part 2 thinking they would return
>>286677042he can't. watch part 3 be revealed to be a flashback from the shack onward when denji and asa get killed in the last chapter by whatever apocalypse happens then
>>286677692Maybe if she get rid of both death and hunger at the same time it could've worked.
>>286677729It would just cause some other retarded chain of events
>>286677737As we've learned from Shart Poo, if erasing something doesn't work quite right Pochita can simply spit the thing back out, no prob.
Only thing I liked about part 2 was the girls.
>>286677792I didn't even like those, they were inferior to the ones in part 1 in every way, including minor ones like Himeno or Akane.
>Fumiko ended up being more important than the horsefus, nayuta and yoshida
>>286650172Yeah part 2 is fine the complaints make no sense to me part 1 was just as chaotic.
>>286677786The world was already too fucked by the end of P2 to be fixed by spitting out Death. That's how quickly the damage is done.Only a literal timeline reset could fix things.
>>286677679>Don't apply part 2 to part 1Why? He brought back the horsemen himself.
>>286677816To be fair, it's not like she did anything either. She was used as mouthpiece to narrate a couple things, and that's it.
>>286677861Yoshida had the most effect by helping turn Denji into Pochita for one last time.
>>286677897and all the friendship he provided offscreen
>>286677847Spitting out Death the second the insect problem turned up (and mind you, Makima could have simpy made him eat the Insect Devil too, so the problem might not even have shown up in the first place) would have fixed things immediately. The reason Pochita couldn't do that in Shart Poo is that Denji and Yoru were engaged in combat, and both them and millions of people would have died if Pochita spit out Shigga. A problem also easily fixed by eating Yoru beforehand like Makima wanted.
I hope season 2 is good so I can stop getting flashbanged by the Nayuta head panel.
>>286677897I'm still fucking pissed about that shit.
>>286648592Dumped part 2 half way, but would read a part 3 if Denji found out Reze still exists in the devil dimension / hell and goes to get her back and start a family with her.
So... are the "it'll be good when you can read it all at once!" guys still holding strong, or did they finally admit they may have been wrong?
>>286678111It'll feel like less of a waste of time and more like just some author's goofy shitpost at least, compared to following it for 4 years.
Surely we won't overhype the next shitty shounen series that has some good ideas at its start, right boys?
I was only sad because I like Pochita. Anyway, it's another case of the author putting his personal feelings into the work again, right?It's all about the author's mindset, seeing himself as a hopeless coomer
>>286677127https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285347970/#285351714>Fuck that particular scene. I reiterate.
>>286678349good call man
Thank god I checked out of these threads ever since they invited all the JJK retards in after the anime aired. Part 2 was great and you are illiterate.
>>286678473>Part 2 was great and you are illiterate.Legion did it better
>>286677915 Offscreen character development truly is Fujimoto’s strongest suit. Why waste panels on actual interactions when you can just imply they totally hung out and bonded between arcs? I’m sure there’s a whole buddy-cop spinoff of Denji and Yoshida getting ramen that just exists in the negative space between chapters.
>>286678541It can work, he did it well in FP and part 1. But missed the mark completely in part 2
>>286677804This. The new girls all sucked or went nowhere. I liked early Asa but she gets really retarded later and loses the femcel energy that made her fun. I didn't enjoy Fumiko being mystery box girl for 95% of the story. I didn't enjoy Nayuta being written for the sake of a cheap shock kill. Yoru was a fat retard in the end. The best part 2 girl is unironically Yuko because she didn't live long enough to get ruined. Even the second string part 1 girls are better.
>>286677847Spit out the time travel devil
This manga really should have stopped when Makiama died
>>286677019The point of Nayuta was to show that Denji wasn't psychologically capable of being happy within his current paradigm and psychological state. He can't be happy with just a normal life, because what makes Denji happy is the act of struggling for something and he is only happy when he is struggling for something and living in the adrenaline of the moment of fighting and dreaming about some far off goal. When he was with Nayuta he didn't have that. She didn't provide him that sense of dreaming about the future. Denji isn't as much irredeemable as not able to be a normal person. The issue is that those around him wanted him to be a normal person, and those that sought to use him for their own ends, relied on him not being a normal person.
>>286677092>>286677118The issue there is that Death was such a lame do-nothing character up to that point that it was hard to care. Like okay, she was behind everything. She still spent 10 fucking volumes of manga sitting in the tardcorner eating food in disgusting ways and not talking to anyone else about anything important. She had one interesting moment when she helped save Denji, and then went back to not interacting with anyone else. What is the point of a twist identity like that if the character lacked connections to anyone else?Look at the reactions that Asa and Denji had to her reveal. Or rather, the obvious lack of reaction because neither of them cared about Kiga/Death in any significant way. Twist identities are interesting when there are emotional consequences to the twist.
The Big Chainsawski
>>286678902It should have stopped when Makima won.
Miyazaki was right.Anime and Manga were a mistake. We have to start over from the beginning.
>>286678276I always thought this was Makima doing a cute dog voice for Tiramisu.
>>286677821part 2 wasn't dog shit, but part 1 was better in every way.
>>286648592Genuinely no. Let it die. I'll always like Part One as a stand alone story. Fujimoto should go back to oneshots for a while so I can judge whether he's lost it or still got it.
>pochita really was the birth devil>women no longer have a birth canal>denji can never have sex kafkaesque ending
>>286648592I don't think Tatsu even wants a part 3. Nigga takes breaks constantly just to pump out slop chapters. He don't care anymore.
>>286649028I liked part 2 when it was an Asa manga. It went to shit as soon as Denji became the central character again.
Next chapter when Denji is back in his cuckshed, will he have a smile on his face while loving life?
>>286681740Part 1 was discount FLCL meets discount Devilman.
>>286670056aI;dr
Did Denji lose his roll game after the time reset?
>>286682328this is just the devilman ending + fuji's botched interpretation of big lebowskiany of you guys who know jap wanna watch the dub/sub and see if they totally fucked up the translation and made it about meaningless absurdism? because i'd love to see an analysis of that.
>>286649028>Part 2>DenjiPart 2 is shit because Asa/Yoru are shit protagonists and even worse antagonists. They don’t work in either role, and they take up more than half of the chapters. If Part 2 was just about Denji and Nayuta trying to adapt and live, while showcasing the struggle Denji has with living a regular life, which he always dreamed of, but also wanting to be Chainsaw Man, part 2 would’ve been much better.Instead you haveAsa/Yoru fuckery, halfassing everything, literal garbge characters that only made this manga worse and attracted the worst type of waifufags and fans.
it's kinda sad when you think about it. Asa was willing to sacrifice herself and even kill herself for Denji to eat Yoru. But Denji didn't accept that. even if there is no part 3 I think I'm satisfied with this ending here. I liked Denji as a character but I knew he was not a good guy.
>>286682473STFU. We got to see Death Devil's PANTIES, FAGGOT.
it is ultimately a series for gooners and there's absolutely nothing good about iti have more respect for shit like highschool dxd because it at least delivers
>>286683122Dont shill your channel here shameless plantationgroid
>>286682473Denji’s half of the manga was the worse half by far, what are you talking about you fucking jeet?
>>286683599Nothing can be worse than Asa's slog in the first vol.
>>286683962You gay retard kek
>>286648592I want a series 3 because of the prophecy uttered by Power that Denji would find the Blood Devil and had a chance at bringing back Power.I was expecting Denji/CSM would find Power/Blood Devil and they would conquer. When Denji discovered blood can hesl his wounds in an early battle, he described himself as "a perpetual motion machine", so one may easily understand my line of thinking...Power was also best girl. Reminded me of someone I miss...
What if Part 2 ends with Denji alone in a theater, watching a Hollywood flick about a fictional character “Chainsaw Man” when he’s approached by the director, Fumiko Mifune?
never watched lebowski is it good or nah
>>286677665Mappa wanted to do Dorohedoro for years and couldn't because of CSM, now they had the last laugh and Dorohedoro is back til the end.A friend of mine is still coping thinking that Part 3 is going to happen
>>286686990It's an absurdist comedy with a bit of a stoner aspect (though it doesn't totally permeate it). The plot takes numerous twists and turns and there are conspiracies and theories and it gets deeper and more convoluted and eventually it just all wraps around to none of it really having mattered or been answered, and it remains unpredictable. It's the moment to moment humor of it all, and it's filled with tons of iconic lines and moments.
>>286686990It's a comedy, but I don't remember laughing during the whole movie, but I wasn't bored either.
>>286687687>none of it really having matteredI'd say the real crux of this is everyone, except maybe Lebowski himself who is perhaps incapable of understanding enough to reach that point, has an overinflated sense of how important things are. Everyone's got some angle and interpretation and goal and they pretty much all turn out to have no fucking clue what's actually happening, despite everything in the movie happening because of their actions. It's a story about a guy who has no clue how to be the lead of a mystery movie stumbling into people who have too much of a clue about how to be characters in a mystery movie and so they overplay their hands.
>>286652148it's over
>>286649549I skipped over most of part 2 and read the latest chapter out of context and it still felt rushed to me.
>>286651832Anime also tend to have other strengths to somewhat disguise bad writing from eyes that don't discern it well. Animation, music, etc generally presents a better execution of the bad idea.
>>286668268 Cuckren hit harder because the rest was pretty solid and it suddenly plunged to shit right after the Rumbling, this is like a nonsensical ending to put down a sick animal.
>>286670056The main problem for me is that you can execute the whole "plot threads go nowhere" thing well if its part of the themes of the story. For example Land of the Lustrous has this in spades, and its played for drama, with everyone Phos gets close to being driven away by the narrative with all the buildup moot. Phos's loneliness is a central theme and anticlimatically truncating plotline after plotline related to the ones she was close to was a core part of the conflict and angst. This all went somewhere. CSM part 2 felt meandering and pointless without a good skeleton of themes to rig the story up and say something about pointlessness.
This ending was Fujimoto telling us we should all just forget about Chainsaw Man
>>286690996>Isayama tells us we're free and we should keep moving forward>Fujimoto makes us forget about CSM
>>286676655I agree completely. It feels like part of the chapter is genius from a parallel timeline where part 2 didn't suck, taken out of context and posted here as a non sequitur.
>>286648592I do believe we are getting a Part 3 or a sequel because every translation of the chapter says to be continued even in the mangaplus english TL was changed from "last chapter in two weeks" to "to be continued", even Viz only knows that Part 2 is ending and Jump+ is only saying "Part 2 completion" instead of "Series completion".
Denji chooses Nyuta over the church, and chaos breaks out. He defeats Death and Yoru and pestilence rises to take over. He can't win. Denji is a horny devil and an idiot, but the author enjoys his suffering. He could've made all the right choses and still get punishd.
>>286648592good question
BRING US, ASA!
>>286676810why the fuck would they cancel a j+ manga that over 200k at minimum and has more anime on the way? this is such nonsensethe only one who could suddenly decide to axe csm is fuji himself if he finally gets burned out of tired of it
>>286676810>Or was this intended all along?Obviously.Every single arc of Shart Poo follows the same structure, the only people who are surprised with the recent developments were coping hard that things would suddenly change for the better.
>>286658163>Muh "I'm looking for the Blood Devil">He was never shown to be looking for the blood devil>He would continue to never look for the blood devil>Everything about the blood devil's contract was completely irrelevant to the entirety of the story
Predictions?Imagine we get a timeloop kinda like Devilman, and we get Chainsaw Woman. We'll have to see female Denji thirsting over cock.
>>28669549719 panels of Denji saying "Dwuh?!" and "Say what?!" in between chopping down trees.
>>286695497>Predictions?The entire universe got rewritten and there's only one chapter left.It's literally impossible to do anything meaningful in such a small number of pages, specially considering how little happens in singular Part 2 chapters.If you're expecting anything but a shitpost-tier ending then you might as well just call it quits here and go read something else.
>>286695657I'm expecting Fujimoto wolfing down painkillers so he can go further beyond and produce 20 pages instead of 19.
>>286695497Femji rapes Aki. Femji took big Yakuza cock.
>next chapter is the exact same as chapter 1 but with denji meeting the axe devil instead
>>286698312More like the axed devil lul.
>>286648592How did part 2 end?
>>286698431spaghetti resetti, pochita ate himselfand before that pochita told Denji he was better off and happier as a starving yakuza slave
>>286648592Yes and I like part 2 too
>>286698431
I don't care for this series.
>>286701573Fujimoto...
>>286695092>I'm looking for the Blood DevilSo that was a fucking lie Denji you cuck
>>286649206He was happy because he had Pochita.Now that Pochita's gone, guess what... he'll now experience hell and will wish he was dead instead.
>>286651840>all Denji's bad decisions are getting undoneSpeedreader-kun, do you ever read?Pochita can't erase consequences. All of SCVMji's wrongdoings will and the damage he caused won't be repaired.
>>286657822Gonna guess that's what Fujimbo wanted.He's a sucker for bittersweet or hopeless-mean spirited and cynical endings. He's the type of writer that would rather piss his audience amd project his social failures then laugh at them, just like Asano and Isayama.There's a reason Sui Ishida said his head wasn't right.
>>286661927>wishing he could return to a time before Chainsaw Man existedSo wishing he could return to the time he had a gf before he fucked things w her by eating that raw fish.
>>286661927>and remove it from public limelight.Gonna need a Game of thrones/ AoT tier shitshow for that.
>>286669383>it would be about the redemption of his character arc.Denji's a junkie, his character's beyond any redemption. The only thing he can do is atone for his sins and seek salvation through death. Have an actual farewell with Pochita and then disappear.
>>286701943why do you think that
>>286701962something he thought up in a previous thread and will repeat 50 different waysalmost like an addict chasing a high
>>286648592I just want Denji to end up happyAnd I mean actually happy, not "I had to sell my eye to buy moldy bread, have never had a single friend, and am going to die before I turn 18 but I can fantasize of having a life that isn't total garbage so it's okay"
Why didn't they simply eat the nostradamus prophecy devil
When I end up creating my shounen-type fightan comic, I will also give my main characters powers that are so hilariously strong that only a cop out like this will be able to "defeat" him.
>>286701990Real happiness can only be achieved through dreams. Real life sucks.If you want Denji to be happy, then it means you want him dead.
>>286702203not all existence is torture
>>286702265mine is
Makima sex!
>>286702203Denji's life only got ruined because of people like Makima or Barem People say that Denji "chose chainsaw man over nayuta", but the fact is that it wasn't even public safety who killed nayuta, it was Barem. Barem was going to kill her regardless of what he did. And I don't need to say anything about Makima.
>>286702265Existence is a torture.The point is finding someone that can make the torture be less tortuous and be willing to share your burdens and her burdens be something you can help.
>>286674509>>286674934>>286675043Asa was pov character until we got Denji back in the spotlight
>>286702444Denji's life got ruined because of himself. His selfishness and hedonism were the causes Makima hated him by the end and turned the world into a bug armageddon.EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF HE JUST ACCEPTED HIS DEATH, DAMMIT!! HE WAS A WALKING VESSEL OF MORAL MISCARRIAGE AFTER ALL!!
I think nobody hates CSM more than Fujimoto himself, the entire post-aquarium part 2 feels like it was made out of spite, like a test of how badly he can phone it in while still publishing his manga. Or fame got into his head and this is actually his level now.Either way, i think it's impossible to recover this trainwreck with part 3 or anything.
>>286702444>BaremI find it hilarious how much of a wet fart that guy was despite being the cruel trickster of part 2.
>>286702451>>Existence is a torture.It isn't though
>>286703643it's gonna be for you if you don't watch that mouth of yours
>>286703422He was the hero of shart poo, the only one that tried to remove the flaw that represents SCVMji. He knew SCVMji's hedonistic impulses and sole existence were only gonna doom the world.And Pochita proved CHADrem Bridge right.
>>286703670
>>286703422Sword guy was somehow even worse.
>>286703670What are you gonna do? Cum in it?
the final chapter will be a full-page spread of Makima saying LIVE and Pochita comes back and then Denji and Makima and Pochita live happily ever after. csm will be fixed forever.
>>286682404>Devilman endingI think it might actually be trying to be Devilman Lady's ending. Which was just the Violence Jack ending except dumb, sudden, and it throws away the two main characters' development and doesn't make any sense considering the ending of the first Devilman.
>>286704907I'm gonna eat so much pizza and smoke so much tobacco, you will never get that taste out of your motuh
>>286706536>I think it might actually be trying to be Devilman Lady's ending. How does that end?
>>286649374Millennial writing fried this anons brain kek.
>>286651200I wish I could help but my cope ran out near the start of that fight with War using bits of America.
I do think Part 3 will be a thing considering they are saying Part 2 is ending in official accounts rather series is ending.
>somehow Nayut x Denji penis into cunny (uncensored) sex happens at Part 2's final chapterWould this save CSM?
>>286706558Yum
>>286702444Yoshida told Denji to stop being CSM, or else he'll kill NayutaBarem told Denji to be CSM, or else he'll kill NayutaPlot twist: Yoshida and Barem were working together to fuck him over no matter what he did because misery awakens PochitaOnly retards say Denji made the wrong choice somehow
>>286709353yeah, sounds about rightit feels like Fujimoto wants this "the third choice was wrong though hehe" to be the takeaway from the manga, even though the entire Nayuta fiasco undercuts this heavily
>>286709397Fujimoto just wants to pull a >You see, I subverted your expectations by making the ending retarded on purpose. Everything is pointless and the story ends. It's just like my heckin movies!!!!!!
petition to stop retardedly saying "let him cook" when the mangaka is cooking up SHIT from a BUTT
>>286708982Only if it's to show current Denji parallel realities where if he wasn't such a hungry faggot, he could've achieved all his dreams without giving up everything he worked hard to save.
>>286648592I always knew that part 2 was not worth reading as a whole even though I skipped part 1. It was bullshit when Yoru didn't consider existence of the Samson option which made her go to USA instead of Israel. If part 3 ever exists, it should bring Israel into the worldbuilding.>inb4 how could Israel existHaavara agreement is the minor reason why Israel could exist. That country existed because of UK, USA, and World War 2 in general.tl;dropen part 3 with Israel getting nuked while activating the Samson option or something
none of this would have happened if foghorn leghorn was the chicken devil
>>286701573Japan...
>>286702203anon....____LIVE____
HOW LONG OF A HIATUS BETWEEN PART 2 AND 3 IS THERE GOING TO BE?IF CHAINSAW MAN ENDS AT PART 2 WAS THE MORAL OF THE STORY TO NOT BE A CÜCK SIMP FEMDOM MALE?CÜCKS DELUXE
>>286713141There will not be a part 3
>>286713220NTA but>>286691198>>286708384
>>286713776Bruh, let it go.
>>286716632They would be saying "series completion" instead "Part 2 completion" if was the series ending.
>>286716776As they say, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
>>286648592yes
The final chapter comes out a week after my birthday. Perfect time to kill myself. By overdosing on my meds if the chapter sucks.
https://poal.me/9oalvp
>Denji: Hey, Nayuta. Did I ever tell you about that ate and shit out your previous self? Makima-san was a good friend.
I feel like needed a few chapters before this where Asa/Yoru has a last against bugs and gets torn to pieces. Think of Asuka vs the Mass Produced Eva Units in The End of Evangelion.
>>286720253That's never the answer, anon.
