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GT is better than Super.
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CHADjack time again.
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>>286660515
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>>286660515
>solid shit is better than diarrhea
yeah, so? At the end all of it is still shit
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Someone should shoop Goku or Bejita's face onto the shart bear meme
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Daima is better than both.
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>>286660662
Why is the Mutliverse guy so obsessed with Bojack?
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>B-BEJITA, I SHIT MY DIAPER AGAIN!!
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>>286660814
Admirable individuals.
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Giving Jiren's dome a good polish
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>>286660788
Canon, I watched the episode last night
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Why did Bejita do this?
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>>286660662
>flesh out any of the other universes
NO!
>make another Bojack story where he kills random aliens and his teammates sometimes
OUI OUI OUI!
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>>286660515
Nobody would ever disagree except zoomers
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What would you do if you had an annoying Chi Chi wife?
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>pity bumps his dead thrGet.

Geg.
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>>286663543
I would hatefuck her every single day.
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>>286660662
This nigga really try to make one-time movie jobber pirate elves look more important than they really are.
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Toonami first aired on Cartoon Network in the United States on Monday, March 17, 1997
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No one cares about your mexican cartoon show, unc.
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>>286663543
>spicgonfags think this is hot

I'll tire iron this ugly hag.
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>>286663543
I would lovefuck her every single day
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>>286661350
Because he's a prince dishing out punishment to the half-breed mutt.
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Why would Bejita and Piccolo do this?
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>>286660515
For me, it's the Rom doujins.
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>>286660515
Got kicked off of reddit didn't you? Lol
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Goku forfeited the fight to Frieza, and Frieza defeated himself with his own attack.
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>>286660515
True.
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I'm just here to say I'd love a spin-off focused on the internal struggle of the Frieza army across the galaxy after Frieza's death
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>>286666705
This. FRAUDku has never won a single fight in an unanimously fair manner.
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>>286667168
Yep.
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>>286663543
Teen Pan…
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>>286667100
I'd prefer that they stop touching Dragon Ball lore and leave it up to interpretation, since every addition made by officials just seems to make the setting look worse.
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pretty sure that the freak who made this picture come from here.
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>>286667100
Why would you assume any of them are having any sort of internal struggle? Even FARTjita who was supposedly resentful of Freeza took pleasure in being a total cocksucker.
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>>286668089
libtardbros we LOVE this picture!
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You need to accept that it's the best way to relive DBZ if you grew up watching it
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>>286665256
Goku shit his diaper again
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>>286660515
Yeah no, this shit is awful. Don't get me wrong, super is trash too, but GT is literally unwatchable at times.
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>>286668913
>but GT is literally unwatchable at times
And you think Super isn't? Kek
People keep acting like ToP was good because they only remember the Jiren fights, but they forget how 90% of that arc was made of extremely dogshit fights with some of the most uninteresting and forgettable characters in all of Dragon Ball. And that's without mentioning how the arc is constantly interrupted by the spectators explaining what's happening onscreen every 2 minutes.
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>>286669033
>90% of that arc was made of extremely dogshit fights with some of the most uninteresting and forgettable characters in all of Dragon Ball
You are literally describing every arc in GT.
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>90% of that arc was made of extremely dogshit fights
True.
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I'm telling you guys right now that GT will be back in some big event in the future, they will somehow try to connect the ending of GT with Super, it'll be some secret wars plot where it turns out that Goku GT went to the Dragon Realm of Zalama himself, the whole GT universe was created specifically by Zalama so that everyone from Super's timeline could migrate there once all 18 universes get oblitirated in some chaotic event again, it all comes down full circle and GT Goku is the real savior and the OG Goku.
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>>286669159
You've been telling yourself this since November 19th, 1997.
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>not only is the GTard trying to defend Garbage Tour, he's shitting on one of the only halfway decent arcs in Super
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>90% of that arc was made of extremely dogshit fights
True.
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>halfway decent arcs in Super
Lmfao
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UUUUUUUUURGH THE QUALITY IS TOO MUCH TO BEAR
THIS ARC IS A MASTERPIECE!!!!
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>retard fucked up and is now pretending like he was talking about the ToP when he posted Zamasu
Kek, stupid bastard.
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>>286669033
>90% of that arc was made of extremely dogshit fights
True.
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>supertards unironically trying to defend tournament of pablo
Kek. How retarded and deluded can you get?
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>>286669450
>STILL trying to deflect and pretend he was talking about the ToP here >>286669248
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Don't mind me just posting more clips of the best arc in soiper
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I broke him.
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>>286669281
>that last clip of 18 fastened up
Fucking kek
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lol
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>>286669660
Don't post this fucking retarded piece of shit here.
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>>286663543
so cute with her hair down
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>>286669820
Left: Based.
Right: Cringe.
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>>286669057
Why did Trunks never have a tail?
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>>286669921
Bulma probably cut it off right away after Goku PTSD
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I'm gay myself and Gohan gives me gay vibes.
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>>286670111
Jirenbro...
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>>286670111
Tienrus...
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Videl has sex with strangers while Gohan looks at bugs
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>>286670341
True.
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>>286670341
And that's a good thing!
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>They are all crazy
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It really is astronomical how you can interpret the power scaling of the Buu Saga, without it even conflicting with anything.
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>>286671725
Goten said this after having a baby with Videl.
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>>286671831
So what?
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Does anyone like zeno?
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>>286671831
>saying two consenting adults had a child makes you Indian
The fuck?
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Everyone knows GT is superior
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>>286671875
I wouldn't see why. He legitimately has lower perception than Bulma and Jaco. His ability to destroy is likely just a hax ability.

That said, every deity figure in Dragon Ball, save for Beerus in the Battle of Gods movie, is fucking horrible.
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>>286671875
Annoying faggot character.
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>>286671933
Yup.
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>>286671933
Nope.
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Post one(1) character FROM DRAGON BALL who can beat THEM all at the same time
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>>286672013
Kek. My Xenoverse 2 OC.
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>>286660754
Because it's the only other time Gohan was relevant.
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>>286669542
Bulma is so fucking hot man.
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>>286672013
Unironically a properly fused SSJ3 Gotenks.
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>>286672070
Every version of Trunks said this.
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>gt spic manolo tries to invade the /dbg/ threads

Stay in your gay archive and dead thread, brown.
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>>286672168
Gohan allowed this.
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What was happening here again?
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>>286670165
>no congruent lines
That's clearly an homage, you schizo.
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The 8th anniversary is coming soon toeisisters.
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>>286671725
>videot*y blogpost garbage
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18 and BBC.
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>>286673372
she yabbas to my dabba in the doo
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It seems pan has left The Halls and entered The Battlefield
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>>286673372
Brave Bald Chads? She loves them.
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W H A C K ! ! !
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>>286673184
>phototool diaryfence treasure
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>>286672168
Goku and Goten both fucked her.
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DBS Vizbig when?
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>>286669057
Who's standing? Bardock?
Who's next to Trunks? Tarble?
>>286670063
Toriyama could've said this. Toriyama could've just said Chi Chi followed Bulma's lead. Instead of "I forgot, umm, ackshually it's a recessive trait."
Toriyama please come back to life and rescind your statement. q_q
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>>286669438
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GREAT DRAGON SHENRON, HEED MY WISH

I WISH THE SAIYAN SON GOKU GOT MARRIED WITH THE BEST GIRL OF THE FRANCHISE INSTEAD OF CHICHI
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>>286674835
Your wish has been granted. Now Son Goku is married to Sorrel, the bunny girl from U9. She loves carrots after all.
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>>286673159
Moro casts Raise Dead on Super Anime!
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>>286674901
You better redesign yourself while you're at it
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>>286675034
Goat Moro is the Goat though.
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>>286675045
I was referring to Moro73 so it doesn't become adapted and we get full goat Moro to the end
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>>286675302
BASED
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>>286669659
DBSbros?!?!?!?
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Was there any Android 10?
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>>286660515
That's a low bar
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>>286669159
Someone mentioned that Goku may have become one with the Dragon Balls. If this is true, then the Dragon Balls will possess an enormous power.
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>>286679150
Someone mentioned that GT is shit (they were right).
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=vKO05gFdQFQ&pp=ygUSQ29vbGlvIGhvbHkgcHJpc2V0
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>>286679233
that opening is TOUGH
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>>286679219
>irrelevant nonsense
Done.
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>>286679322
>GT is irrelevant nonsense
True.
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>>286679330
I was referring to your irrelevant opinion about GT.
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>>286679330
GT is good when you dont have an LGBTQ+ flopped voice actor's guild whispering in your ear.
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>>286679365
>N-NO W-W-W-WAIT I M-M-MEANT
GT? Irrelevant nonsense.
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>>286679389
>he's mad about GT
Good.
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>>286674870
>Goku gets Sorrel
>Vegeta gets Hoppu
>Gohan gets the butterfly girl from Universe 10
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>>286679388
>LGBTQ+
Yeah, GT is a beloved ally of those freaks.
>>286679422
>m-m-mad...
Pathetic.
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>>286679438
>GT frames all LGBTQ+ "people" as freaks who should be mocked and looked down on morally
Yes.
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>>286679519
>f-fags in my series are actually a good thing!
GTards, everyone.
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>>286679555
>Framing them as morally below the heroes so kods understand these freaks are not to be trusted
GT giving kids real life lessons.
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Could Clean God solo every GTurd villain at once? I think so.
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>>286679595
>kods
Retardo!
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>>286679618
Even moeshit characters from other derivative garbage shonen series could solo every Gay Trash villain.
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>>286679618
>Clean God
How? He's not even canon.
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>>286679686
Post an image of a more canon character. I dare you.
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So, who was the Saiyan that Beerus saw in his dream?
>He dreamed of an ultimate warrior who could fight him on equal footing
But SSG Goku failed to fight him on equal footing
Who is going to be the Saiyan who challenges Him?
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Your concession has been accepted. "Clean God"? More like "Canon God."
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>>286679766
>>286679866
Literally any character that isn't from Super.

Seethe btw.
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>>286679992
>dodged my challenge
What are you so afraid of? Should be easy to post an image of a character more canon than Clean God, if he's not canon, right?
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If certain alien species can survive in space, does that mean they can also stay underwater indefinitely, like fish?
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>>286680266
so it seems
so it seems
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>>286680266
>fish head
Is that…CUI-DONO?
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BIG YIKES
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>>286680006
We call it barbecue sauce in the GODnimation Dub.
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>wins the ToP at only 16 years old
I can't even imagine how high his potential is. Probably limitless, if I had to guess.
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>>286681192
Imagine how strong The Ren will be at the End of Z (he will be 20 years old).
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>>286681273
He probably becomes the new Omni-King by that point.
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Reminder:

>If Jiren had won the Tournament of Power, then he would've been the one to get his wish granted. But he didn't, because he FAILED to win the ToP. It was Android 17 who won the ToP, not SHITren
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>kills shitku and his jobber friends
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>Tournament of POWER
>Roo had the most POWER
Yup yup he won.
>b-but muh minigame (non-sequitur)
Done.
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>>286681489
Bobobo literally rapes and gapes all dbsverse effortlessly whilst making abstract jokes
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>>286681513
>couldn't reply directly to >>286681368
>muh mini game
Total headcanon, just like Super..

>Jiren had the most power
And still fucking lost
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I love Dragon Ball GT!!!!! We love the real SSJ4 Goku here! We love Baby and the Shadow Dragons here!
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>admits it
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM
Another EASY win for the J.
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Can you imagine in this year's /DBS/ meeting?
You start your coping babble about Enny Renny J losing the morality test and I start dancing vivaciously, pic related while chanting
>ENNY RENNY WOO HOO, CHADDY WARDY THAT'S ME, ENNY PAPI COO COO
My thunderous voice drowning your whines as you start fucking FUMING and your brownish face turns reddish.
You'd simply shut your baiting whore mouth out and start silently lacrimating.
At that point I stop dancing, and declare my victory with a loud BOOM.
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>admits it
>Jirenfag finally accepts that SHITren lost the ToP
I'm so glad you've accepted this fact.
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>>286681744
>>286681757
Can anyone defeat Jiren?
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>>286682143
Beast Gohan might make him sweat.
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>>286682143
Yes, Tien the hero
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>>286680006
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>>286681757
>>286682143
>>286682281
What an invincible TITAN. Strength is absolute, Renny is absolute, yup yup. BOUNDLESS.
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>>286682143
>>286682281
The Tournament of Power.
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>>286682989
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>>286683187
Android 17 won the Tournament of Power.

Cope.
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>>286683232
Who?
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Android 17? He won the Tournament of Power.
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It was Android 17 who won the Tournament of Power, not SHITren.
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So what the hell is going on with the manga? Why aren't they making new chapters? It was clearly meant to continue.
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>>286682763
>gay fantasies
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>>286660515
kill yourself several times in a row
and keep on doing it infinitely
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some niggas be acting wild over GT
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It's incredibly interesting to see such a powerful warrior just sit there, completely still, and at peace. It's like seeing the calm before the storm, knowing what's about to happen, and the damage that storm will cause whenever it decides to awaken, and remind us of its capabilities.
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>>286683745
>peaceful
Jiren wasn't so peaceful, when he tried to kill Goku's friends and family..
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"Move your opponent out of bounds" as opposed to "Knock out your opponent" implies different conditions for victory, one man's victory might just be another man's participation trophy. One might argue the whole tournament (or minigame as some like to call it) itself was just humiliation forced upon the strongest mortal by the Gods. Switching up rules, smug and evil looks from the Grand Priest, all of it eventually leading to "Android 17" being the last remaining fighter. "Android 17" who acts nothing like the 17 we all know, who's far stronger than the 17 we know. Blue tier off fighting poachers? I'll leave you that one to figure out.
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>>286683745
>every character becomes exponentially stronger once they’ve learned to become calm and focused
It’s one of my favorite parts of Dragon Ball’s martial arts aspects.
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>>286683857
>missing the point
I don't blame you. Most people aren't capable of understanding the Ren.
>>286683894
True. It's a nice way to showcase a character's growth.
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>>286683745
>Jiren's character becomes exponentially weaker once he's realized that he is about to lose the Tournament of Power.
It’s one of my favorite parts of Dragon Ball’s martial arts aspects.

Jirenbro btw.
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>>286660515
GT is rubbish and rubbish is GT.
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GT is a humiliation ritual for everyone who watches it. Glad it will NEVER be canon.
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>>286684006
True.
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>>286683927
>missing the point
>Jiren tried to kill Goku's friends and family..
Jiren literally lost his cool and vented his anger and frustrations out on Goku's freinds and family.
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>>286684060
>still missing the point
I already addressed this.
>misusing "literally"
I laughed.
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>>286684082
>I already addressed this.
When? How about explaining it again?
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>>286679766
ENTER
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>>286684118
The scene you're talking about would be the "storm" I mentioned in the original post. His meditation was the calm before that storm, to continue the analogy.
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>>286684053
Even better – I don’t remember anything from it, so I can pretend I’ve never seen it.
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>>286684053
I only watched 2 episodes before dropping it for being shit. I guess daipa traced it perfectly in that regard.
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Brolybos... WTF????
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Do you think the Jirenfag will ever accept the truth?

>Jiren lost the Tournament of Power
>Jiren tried to kill Goku's friends and family
>Jiren is a poor tactician
All that meditating was a total waste of time.


>>286684152
That's bullshit! Jiren lost his cool and tried to kill the bystanders.
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Enny Renny Roo? He lost to HIM
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>>286684229
>says it's "bullshit"
>while reiterating my point, albeit with no nuance whatsoever
And that's that.
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>>286660515
GT has better ideas than Super, but squanders them just as much, as anything Super tried to do.
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>>286684053
DBGT has always been canon.
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>>286660662
I too enjoy getting really short and dissapointing main story chapters for 2-3 weeks, that the get interrupted for 5 months with some alt universe bs.
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Jiren won my heart.
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>>286684271
>failed to defend his hero
Done.
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>>286684311
>non-sequitur
Done, indeed. You're awfully agreeable today.
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>>286684271
Oh please, quit your moral grandstanding and realize that gokek would do the exact same thing if it meant he got a better fight. Jiren was simply removing distractions so as not to interrupt his calm.
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>>286660754
>>286661363
>>286663813
I never understood why fandom likes Bojack so much. He has personality as shallow as a puddle, his design is boring, his transformation is "same but green lol", he has like 4-5 lines in a movie, and I dare anyone to quote single one of them. I heard his entire backstory comes from a pamphlet, that was given out in theaters before the movie. And yet for some reason he's one of fandoms darlings. HOW.
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Do you accept facts?
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I barely accept opinions
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It'd be so much hotter if all the cute girls of Dragon Ball (Chi-Chi, Bulma, Android 18, Pan, Bra etc.) were traps drawn by Dross instead.
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>>286684353
>gokek would do the exact same thing
Oh? Provide an example?
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>>286683745
Thinking about cock undoubtedly
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>>286684375
Only in Maghrebistan (France). No one gives a fuck about them, except for the green whore who died to a low effort ki blast KWAB.
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>>286669033
>And you think Super isn't?
Yes... until it wasn't, which was around the Goku Black arc. That was a badly executed solid idea, which is exactly what most of the second half of GT was, and after that Super became nothing but a menagerie of DBZ arc retreads, but at least the animation got better and there were some nice SoL moments here and there. The difference is that GTurd never got it shit together on any front, not even to sell empty hype like Super did. I think people who have taken to praise GT with rose tinted glasses just haven't rewatched that heap of trash in years, maybe since it came out. It's genuinely unbearable nowadays.
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>>286684379 meant for >>286684331

Answer the question!
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>>286669281
Genuinely more animation here than in any """sakuga""" cut in Grand Taco.
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>>286684375
Bojack is mainly a vessel used for making fun of Pan, TeamFourStar, and waifufags that ship Gohan with Zangya.
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>>286684375
>I never understood why fandom likes Bojack so much.
He's really not that popular. He's not on the level of popularity as Broly, Turles, Cooler, and Janemba are on at least. Bojack just birthed on lolcow in Lord Paragon.
Salagir's obsession with the character is bizarre. Bojack has had way too many side stories and none of them are good. He just kills people, including his allies. None of it matters or fleshes out the plot in a meaningful way.
Multiverse is bleeding readers too. Salagir released Bra wank into another Bojack chapter. He really must want to kill his fanfic for good.
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>>286684391
Jirenbros....
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>>286684408
At any point, PSYCHOku could have stopped majin vegeta, but he let him kill all those people in the crowd just to make vegeta stronger
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You think Vegeta could defeat Dabura, or was he just talking shit out of frustration, because he was being cockblocked from fighting Goku?
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>>286684729
Bejita always underestimates his strength so he'll lose.
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>>286684729
Bejita was fighting on par with SS2 Goku after his training on the afterlife. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't.
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>>286684723
Proof?
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Man, look at super recycling animati-ACK
https://youtu.be/cZIvtkVkzKg?si=qtCdKeOKILPWC1ij
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>>286684796
My dad died at the tournament
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>>286684805
Toei were always cheap Kikes. They do the same shit with One Piece as well.
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>>286683745
He's quite the pragmatic and puissant warrior, isn't he? Stoic yet alert, powerful yet measured, tranquil yet prepared. What a masterstroke to use the ancient art of meditation as a juxtaposition to Jiren's peerless might. A force of nature at rest, if you will, but a temporary lull before the ravagement of all.
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>>286684805
>This is bad, I can't take it anymore!

...so like, at least fuse with Trunks?
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>Antisemitism
Come on guys. What would our heroes say?
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>>286684971
You don't think Freeza was jewish?
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>>286684971
>What would our heroes say?
I don't want to get banned.
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>>286684971
>these jewish guys control the world?? Wowee!! They sound even stronger than the red ribbon army!! Waku waku i can't wait to take them on!!
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ENOUGH!
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After observing the canon smut doujinshi and comics, how many diseases do you think 18, Chichi, Videl and Bulma have after taking so many shotas, BBC, futa, furry, scat and monster cocks?
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Now that we've established (again) that Gonzalez's Telanovela is non-canon, unanimously despised fanfiction, what's next for EN THE REN?
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Is there any instance they couldve used their transforming ability to do anything post db? Having the power to look like literally anybody even for a limited amount of time seems like it could be incredibly useful if used strategically but they dont do it once in Z or ever again really, like idk using it to fake being someone higher power to fool/scare a foe or something, it seems like such a waste
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>>286685114
Everyone except Bejita are clean.
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>>286685153
Stop hiding from this post >>286684463 >>286684379
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Why isn't Pan allowed to turn SS? They gave it out like candy in both Buu and Super.
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>>286684853
It's literally the final fucking battle though, and Jewei skimped even on that. Even Shitper at least had those seizure inducing Jiren fights. People forget Grand Turd was cancelled for a reason.
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>>286685158
Would've just been retreading old ground if they'd had them transform and cut off Raditz's or Vegeta's tail or something. After that the power creep was just too much, they've only ever been shown transforming into fairly mundane objects that wouldn't be any help at all even against guys like Zarbon and Dodoria, let alone the real big bads.
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>>286685153
ENTER...
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>>286685162
Let me rephrase – everyone but Bejita WERE clean, BEFORE he showed up.
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>>286685204
>The Council of Ren
Holy FUCK...
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You are NOT important – you’re as much of a RAT as everyone else, here, in these halls!
CEASE your faggotry AT ONCE!!!
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>>286685204
The J Fighters...
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>>286685317
>final boss is just a poor man's renny
Yup yup, definitely proof that EVEN TORIYAMA HIMSELF knew that renny jenny roo was the PINNACLE of Dragon Ball
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>>286685317
imagine if this was the first time he went SS4 instead of Neva healing him as chibi
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>never lost even a single fight
Nonstop winnies. The Roo J Ren the Ji Roo is unbeatable.
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>>286685204
Picture the countless tournaments they've been eliminated from.
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D O N E
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>>286685193
They can turn into dude's they just can't physically do anything strength wise, they'd have to rely soley on their apperance and words, if hypothetically they were on namek they could like turn into frieza and order the ginyu force or zarbon or some shit, obviously they wouldn't know about beerus but if they had or something like that they could scare freiza or something idk. Maybe could try stopping Super Buu by turning into Mr Satan and convincing him? I'd say its weird that kind of idea wasnt atleast a strategy used by the z fighters once even if it failed but toriyama probably completed fucking forgot
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>>286663543
impregnate with many babies and live of ox king money
>>286667100
>>286668206
i dont think theyre be an interal personal struggle but i imagine theyre be a big power gap left after this large galaxy spanning empire loses their empire that forces would try to captailize on or theyre be splintered factions
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>>286685473
Toriyama probably did forget honestly. Subterfuge like that could have been a fun little one off, and it would have been really easy to make it into one of his usual gags.
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CAUSE I'M A BOX OFFICE FLOP YES I AM..

WELL I'M A BOX OFFICE FLOP YES I AM..

I ONLY MADE $55,655 USD... ONLY ENOUGH TO COVER A 4 CYLINDER AUDI A3!
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Yippeee!
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>>286685548
Gokek...
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>>286685473
Another thing that always kind of bugged me was that how did oolong magically obtain a giant ramen bowl full of broth and giant chopsticks, did he partially transform into those things too? it doesnt matter though its gag who cares
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>>286685548
CHADlin...
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Why did Videl fuck Goten?
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>>286685518
>Do to conspiracy

Lol, what conspiracy?
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>>286685644
In-universe explanation: Transformations work via "concepts", meaning you focus on a concept and the transformation applies that concept, so something simple like scissors is just "scissors", whereas a bowl of ramen naturally includes broth and chopsticks.

Actual explanation: You already said it, it's a gag and Toriyama didn't think about these things.
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Jiren.
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...lost. KWAB!
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GT at least had original ideas. Super just changed color pallet.
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>>286685893
>original ideas
The entire concept is a rehash of OG but in space.
Baby is just Garlic Jr. again.
Super 17 is literally fucking Android 17 again.
The only original concept was the Shadow Dragons, and it was handled like absolute dogshit so it doesn't matter.
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>>286685822
..lost the Tournament of Power.


This a known fact btw.
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GT sucks simply because every single fight ended with Goku doing red kamehameha shit got so fucking repetitive
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>>286685893
Grand Turd actually had FEWER original ideas than Super, which is incredibly sad.
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I was going to give the GTards the benefit of the doubt and say some of the filler episodes had some original ideas, but then I remembered all of GT is filler. Keka!
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>>286685937
You forget SSJ4 being thousand times more original and thought thru than any transformation from Super.
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>>286686059
>you forgot the fucking FOURTH Super Saiyan transformation was totally original!
And it wasn't even, it piggybacked off the Golden Oozaru image from Vegeta's monologue on Namek. Try again, you fat fucking unloved loser.
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>>286686010
Evidence?
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Super Saiyan Four(ry) was the most jobberific transformation in the entire franchise. Baby was literally the only main villain Goku managed to beat with it.
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>>286686041
>filler
According to the original author, it doesn't exist.

>"Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga"
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>>286686177
Yup.
That's why GT is canon.
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>>286686177
He was referring to added content in the anime adaptation of the existing manga that he wrote. That does not encompass GT, a completely Toei-original fanfiction created after that interview.
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>Hey, Yajirobe! Mind sparring with me?
>*POW!*
>...
>*twitch*
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>>286686010
Unfortunately, that's not true, Super was the worst offender in that regard.
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>>286686162
>most jobberific transformation
But enough about SSB...
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>>286686010
The thread isn't ready for this Tautological Typhoon yet...
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>>286686140
Good new characters in Super:
>Beerus
>Whis
>Jiren
>Moro

Good new characters in GT:
...
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>>286660754
>>286684375
>>286684555
Bojack is important to LE LORE and LE WORLDBUILDING. Haven't you always wanted to know more about Freeza's family tree and their conflict with Bojack's gang? Oh yeah, Bojack's race is also called Jaykals and not Hera-seijin because Salagir never watched the movie.
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>>286686213
He was referring to the orignal stories, which includes anything made during and after. Unless you have evidence that he was specificallly just referring to the beginning of Dragon Ball, then it must mean the entire the series.
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>>286686349
>orignal
Retard.
>which includes [HEADCANON]
See?
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>>286686336
You forgot Hit and Vados
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>orignal
>specificallly
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>Jirenfag replied
Ignored btw.
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>>286686430
>I ran away like a bitch
Of course.
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>>286686441
Mr. T...
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Good new characters in GT:
>Gill
>Ledgic
>Rilldo
>Baby
>Dr. Myuu
>Hell Fighter 17
>Nova Shenron
>Syn Shenron

Good new characters in Super:
...
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Can a REAL scholar answer my post?

See >>286686349
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>Jiren is canonically unimaginably fast and athletic, with reaction speeds to keep up with or even transcend his movement speeds
He would be a great dancer.
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>>286686140
-original ideas introduced by Grand Turd, whether as an arc or as an addition to the lore
>a bunch of non descript generic one-ambience planets (this is literally just a rehash of OG DB's roadtrip, but I'm trying to be generous)
>Dark DBs
>SS4 itself
>Baby and the Tsufurujin's revenge plot (also a rehash, but whatever)
>those weird space tanuki things from the Baby arc
That's literally it.

-Same as above done by Shitper
>A complete recontextualization of DB's cosmology and Mythology with the introduction of Beerus, GoDs, Angels, Zeno and the multiverse
>The SS God as a concept
>God ki
>destruction energy
>Ultra Instinct
>the Super Dragon Balls
>that one weird omniscient dude that's just another plot device
About the same and mostly fluff for both, but Super had the most relevant ones.
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>>286686092
...yes, thats the point. A combination of oozaru and ssj transformation. That's what so brilliant about it. They used existing lore to creat new transformation.
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>>286686525
He's doing the Renny Roo.
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>>286686491
I don't remember any of these characters
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>>286686336
Moron was just nuCell and you forgot Goku's best bro Meerus. Other than that you're correct. It's incredible how devoid of any charisma GTurd was.
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OUR HEROES!
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>>286684375
I don't get it either. Apparently Dragon Ball fans adore boring assholes with no personality.
>Perfect Cell
>Bojack
>Jiren
All beloved, all shit.
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>>286686595
>they reused shit
Thanks for conceding.
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>>286686572
They should bring more roboniggas back. They're always fun.
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>>286686347
I don't know what's funnier. Salagir acting like he's never wrong with his ideas, of the commenters who think it's peak fiction.
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>>286686336
>Good new characters in Super:
>Jiren
>Moro
Lol. Lmao. "xD" even.

>Good new characters in GT:
Baby
Ice, Fire and Omega Shenron
General Rildo
Ledgic
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>>286686572
I don't get it. Why couldn't they just remaster this OVA, and instead created completly new, that has so much shittier animation?
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>>286686673
>Baby
>Ice, Fire and Omega Shenron
>General Rildo
>Ledgic
NONE of those faggots are good characters. In fact, they're all awful except for the 4 star Dragon who was just a generic honorable enemy. Agreed about Jiren and Moro though, they're both boring.
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>>286686643
The only guys remaining that defend Salagir's fanfic are his powertripping moderators that constantly bash the source material.
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>>286686347
Idk why they are so obsessed with Bojack. Hes so boring and the specials are just a bunch of talking. Its sad they didnt do more specials based on the other universes. Wouldn't be surpised if the Bojacks specials were just an inside joke at this point.
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Pan? Lost to Can-sama.
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>>286686720
>that has so much shittier animation?
Like nu-Dragon Ball.
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>>286686826
Pan can't win.
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>>286686826
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Remind me of Pan's fight record?
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>>286686572
I haven't seen Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans in so long.
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I'm glad that TFS and Salagir made Dragon Ball better.
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>>286687304
>goon
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>>286684445
Zangya is hot.
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>>286687392
A thinking cap fit for a true detective.
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>>286660754
Is this supposed to make me feel anything at all?

>I can't wait to learn about.... Polar! And Snower! And Blizzard!
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>>286687533
Meant for >>286686347
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>>286687485
Why doesn't Bulma, billionaire super genius, just turn herself into an android? To hell with the magic dragon, shed thine flesh, girl.
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>>286687533
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When will we get good choreography? We're being beaten by JJK again...
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>>286687596
Dr Gero's technology is far too advanced for Capsule Corp DORKS.
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>>286660515
Been rewatching bits of it lately while it's being aired again. It's full of soul that Super desperately wishes it had. I pretty much have to force myself to stop watching because I only have so much free time.
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>>286687860
But she has studied that technology, and has a sufficient understanding to repair units and devise countermeasures. She knows how it works.
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>>286687706
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G8z0gbJLufc&pp=ygUWcmVtaW5kZWQgZHJvd25pbmcgcG9vbA%3D%3D
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>is the best movie in your path
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>>286687974
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*urafuzus*
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>>286687993
I want to squeeze turles' meaty thighs
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PLEASE STOP BRUTALLY POUNDING MY GTUSSY!
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>>286687964
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>>286683449
Anyone know?
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>>286687706
>fighting in some random apartment
What the hell is this?
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>>286688084
Soul…
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>>286687964
>>286688154
It's interesting, that the best fights in DB have the least amount of moves in them, but they're all so precise, and you can feel the power in every punch and kick. It's the same reason I love Bardock vs Dodoria goons fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_YtVDRBAX4
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>>286687706
That'll be the day when DB is ever animated half as good as JJK
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You are wrong and stupid.
I am correct and smart.
My hero?
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I refuse to believe anyone genuinely gives a damn about Turles. He's just a rando space pirate who has the same hairstyle as Goku. Riveting.
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>>286688359
I only care, because it's hilarious to think everyone watched his movie wondering "why does he look like Goku?!"... and then the movie never bothers to adress that. But syke, you watched it!
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>>286684375
the movie is also extremely boring. there's a few cool moments but they're just that.
and ssj2 gohan lasts what? a minute in total? and i'm still not sure what the fuck bojack did to kill zangya, what was that about?
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Lol, what are they doing, dancing?
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>>286687706
>jobs to the 1930s
Done.
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>>286687706
This is anime for schoolgirls.
>>286688474
Now this... This is anime with some chest hair.
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>>286686336
>>Beerus
>>Whis
They're Z characters that just appear in Shitper, retard.
>>Jiren
Fucking lmao.
Shitpertards trying to pretend this character is good in any way will never not be funny.
You're genuinely so braindead and deluded.
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You lost DBbros. Face irrelevancy with Naruto in grace...
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>>286688558
>This is anime with some chest hair.
Almost none of the characters in Dragon Ball have chest hair. And the one who does is a comic relief jobber.
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>>286688611
You apologize to Mr Satan right now.
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>>286687706
This is so uninteresting to look at. What a pisspoor franchise that jewjutsu kaisen or whatever is.
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>>286688617
To finally fix lore error, where Piccolo started as demon, then got retconned into alien, and now he's legally both.
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>>286684497
>shitpertards unironically defending dogshit animation just to "own" gt fans
kek
how pathetic can you get
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>>286688593
Shit like this always makes me realize why I hate shonen. All this over the top gimmicky shit, and all I can think is why nobody just pulls out a fucking gun. This is all so fucking unnecessary and stupid.
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Left or right?
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>>286688617
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I bet Jiren's species eats a lot of food. That power has to come from somewhere, right? After all, he became nearly omnipotent at just 16 years old.
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>>286688581
>They're Z characters that just appear in Shitper
Oh. Which arc of the anime/manga did he first appear in?
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>>286688703
>Fillet-O-Fish made entirely of sardines
Jiren would eat this.
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>>286688084
>can't even spare to draw the buildings properly frozen
Why was Goon Taco so cheaply made?
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>>286688718
Battle of Gods, a Z movie.
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>>286688681
Kino...
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>>286688718
>Oh. Which arc of the anime/manga did he first appear in?
An obscure movie you probably never heard of, called DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS
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>>286688661
Only to bring even more continuity errors and retcons
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>>286688718
They didn't; they appeared on proto Super movies.
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>>286688778
>muh movie
Not part of DBZ
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>>286688084
Akira Lazyama would never bother to draw a fight in an interesting setting like this city. To much work for him. That's why I respect GT animators even more. They could finally remove the shackles, and do something creative for once with the franchise.
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>>286688830
It was written by Toriyama, it couldn't be any more Z if they tried.
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>acting like he wouldn't absolutely bully people on his wife's order
Vegeta, pls.
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>>286688676
Nignog, this is basically a slideshow too. Nobody's deluded enough to claim Super is a good anime, not even as corpo slop, but it did have slightly (and in some cases much better) production values than GT, simply because GT was utter dogshite from beginning to end.
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>>286688359
Idk why but I really like him, even though his main gimmick is being evil Goku. I at least find him a lot less pretentious and annoying than Black.
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>>286688830
This is you, btw.
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>>286688823
Z is literally in the movie's title, lmao.
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>>286688830
>Not part of DBZ
>ignoring the 13 original CHADGgon CHAD Z GODvies
DONE.
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>>286661350
>gives Gohan a zenkai boost
>Gohan goes on to upstage him against Cell
Cuck behavior desu
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>>286688853
So you admit Daima is good & the true sequel to Z since its written by Toriyama
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>>286688890
Dragon Ball Z: Wrath of the Dragon was the last Dragon Ball Z movie.
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>>286688853
Wrong, it was written by Toei and Toriyama only give some feedback to the story and designs
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>>286688681
Fucking eew. Nakatsuru's designs are almost as ugly as modern Yamamuro.
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>>286688890
He knows you are right so he has to keep deflecting and making excuses rather than admitting he’s wrong.
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>>286688961
The last Dragon Ball Z movie is the Resurrection of Frieza.
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>>286688920
why does jiren dressed as a clown :(((
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>>286684375
>I never understood why fandom likes Bojack so much.
He and his crew have really cool designs, and his movie used to be the only time besides the Cell Arc when Gohan was allowed to actually be the mc.
But yeah, his personality is as bland as it can possibly be, and his transformation is also really lazy. Though you can say the same about Broly, who has next to no character and yet people never stopped fanboying over him.
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Speaking of dragon ball movies, how come Hirudegan is never talked about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ5sViOYG1s
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>>286689018
Sniffing Zangya’s armpits until I pass out.
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>>286660693
Is Lunch is gay?
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>>286688991
No it wasn't, Resurrection of Freeza was an abomination, it belongs in the DB Super universe.
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>>286689027
Goku getting the final win when he was so absent throughout the movie was really bullshit. It should've been either Gohan or Gotenks that killed Hirudegarn.
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>>286689069
She confesses to Tien in front of everyone.
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>>286689018
They are fruit-loop colored knockoff Saiyans who are also arbitrarily stronger than Super Saiyans
They appeared randomly halfway through a 45-minute movie and died
They have a female member of their crew (who is also the strongest canonical female in Dragon Ball, which exists from 1984 to 1995, 1996 for the TV Z anime) and we inherently overvalue females
Bojack is comparable in strength to a bunch of Z villains from the show's peak, when the show was pure TESTOSTERONE and MUSCLE
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>>286689082
>Dragon Ball Z: Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Won’t Do it, Who Will?
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>>286689202
People will read thst title and tell you Goku isnt a hero.
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Why didn't Toriyama had Tien, Yamsha, Piccolo and Chaotzu learn Kaio Ken, to make them slightly more relevant?
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>>286689233
Goku is not a hero, he's a champion.
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>>286689202
Ok, I'll admit that move and quote from Goku were still really cool, though.
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>>286689270
Of cuckoldry.
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I can't believe SSJ5 Evil Goten skullfucked Bra then killed his best friend Trunks in the new chapter....
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>BEJITA BEJITA BEJITA BEJITA
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>>286689537
Goten would never do that. He would never cheat on Pan.
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>>286689061
18.....
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>>286689220
>baiting an innocent animal to lick her feet
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>>286689537
It's okay, leaks from eiichiro oda himself told me that he'll just use the ki thing goku did against hit to survive
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>>286690422
>CENSOREDnemba
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>>286690422
Top: SOVL
Middle: SOVL
Bottom: SOVL
How did DBZ manage to do it bros
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>>286690422
>>286690443
I've a Narutofag and even I don't know the Naruto movie villains the same way I do DBZ movie villains
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>>286690422
I always forget Garlic Jr. has an entire arc in the anime.
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>>286660515

Sad but true i guess.
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>>286690470
I feel like anime movies in other franchises care too much about the plot. In Dragon Ball movies a cool dude just shows up, fucks shit up, and dies in a memorable way. It helps that they appear in the games so often too.
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>>286688617
I hope she shoves her cock so far down my throat I can't breathe.
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>>286690422
>GODku's rape victims
Yup.
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>>286689862
>Imperfect Cell is Super Saiyan 3-tier
Holy STRONG...
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>>286690422
I like Slug. I wish there were more Super Namekians in the series.
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>>286690422
Why are the colors and aesthetics all totally kino?
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Garlic Jr.
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>>286690422
My VILLAINS
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>>286690599
Blue guy... (sorry, I forgot your name)
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>>286690906
Because the Z movies were all lovingly crafted by people who gave a shit, unlike Garbage Tour, SHITper, and Daipa.
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>>286689862
Imperfect Cell had the best design it's just such a pity the thing on his face opens like a beak.
Semi-perfect cell's design was this close to being the best one but that ugly ass face ruined it completely
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>>286690422
Z Movies > Z anime > Manga > OG anime > everything else
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Baby.
Super 17.
Omega Shenron.
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>>286690974
Problem solved.
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>>286690422
Legends of Awesomeness.
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>>286690906
Toei was still at the top of its game.
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>>286688617
lusting over her big boobs
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>>286690470
Naruto, Bleach, Demon Slayer, One Piece, all those shonenSHIT are obsessed with "muh darkness" and "muh plot" and "muh emotional struggle"
Anime movies are distillations of the qualities of the shows they're about
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>>286691195
>plot is a bad thing
Tardgonball spastics are such dumbasses. Its shitty hack author was also a retard who couldn't write worth a shit though so it checks out
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Fun Bejita fact: The name Goku was derived from Doku which means poison referring to his poisonous sharts
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>>286691014
Our villains and our heroes.
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>>286690541
Same! I fucking hate when I have to engage my brain and think about stupid shit like "plot" and "consistency" and "character development"! I want to just clap my fucking fat, greasy hands like the big, gay retard that I am while lasers and explosions happen!
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>>286691195
why bejita is not doing the same pose, he is ruining the whole pic
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>>286691272
Because he's an insecure little manlet cuck who thinks he's cool and edgy for going against the grain
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>>286691271
>"plot" and "consistency" and "character development"
None of these things matter in a noncanon movie. Advertising the characters comes first and foremost.
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>>286691301
>I just want to clap at random things happening with zero context like a dumb cuck fuck!
We've established this.
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>>286691290
K, b, c!
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>>286691271
>>286691337
Idiot moeshitter. The characters we already know ARE the context. When you already have a strong, colorful cast like Dragon Ball, all you need in movies is a fun antagonist for them to play off of. There's no call for gay moeshit like plot and character development in a self-contained story that exists purely as a vehicle for the established characters to do cool shit.
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>>286691337
>>I just want to clap at random things happening with zero context like a dumb cuck fuck!
Dude, it's a NONCANON movie. That means it doesn't matter. Why are you writing character development for a noncanon movie?
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>>286691396
>>286691452
Why even fucking make it then? I'll tell you: because Tardgon Tards just want to clap at random bullshit happening so they don't have to engage their simple little brains.
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>>286691243
I think THIS is your more speed, Tienrus
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>>286691506
>this is the kind of shit Dragontards like
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If being gay is wrong then I don't want to be right!
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>>286691271
Listen, TienPUTANG
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>>286691506
Dragon Ball Super: Monaka will break the internet.
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>>286691473
>Why even fucking make it then? I'll tell you: because Tardgon Tards just want to clap at random bullshit happening so they don't have to engage their simple little brains.
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>slander against Ten completely unprovoked
Smells like a bald manlet.
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>>286691473
>Why even fucking make it then?
To make money?
You seem to be some turbo anime newfag or something. Movies didn't use to just adapt canon manga parts like that Reze movie or have some kind of important storyline. They were just extra material. Not canon, just being a fun little spectacle for an hour or two.
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Tienrött's crashing out!!
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>>286691616
I'm fully aware that Dragonballtards have always been stupid casuals and the laughingstock of actual anime fans since the 80s, yes.
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I never knew Tienrus would stoop this low...
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>immediately ramps up after Cuckllin gets shat on
Yup, called it.
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Dragon Ball Dicklet
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>>286691664
>KRILLINKRILLINKRILLINKRILLIN
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>>286691627
I don't see what you're chimping out about bud, we were just talking about what makes DBZ's movie villains so memorable.
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𝕀'𝕄 𝕋𝕀ℝ𝔼𝔻 𝕆𝔽 𝕐𝕆𝕌, 𝔸𝕊𝕊𝔽𝕌ℂ𝕂ℂ𝕆ℂ𝕂
AAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW, I'M GETTING 𝑹𝑬𝑨𝑳 TIRED NOW, SHUT THE FUCK UP, FUCKCOCKBAG

He needs to start watching his back before something BAD happens to him, holy FUCK
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That's it, I've had enough, I'm kissing a 5 year old child
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Why did 88ku do this?
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Post YOUR idea for Super Saiyan 5.
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>>286691473
Because it will sell tickets, merch, and create material to work with in the future for video games or even incorporate into the mainline series, the way Toriyama used Bardock's design from the special in the manga.
You stupid moeshitting piece of moefuck.
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Yup.
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>>286691844
Irrefutable.
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>>286691844
These were Toriyama's last words according to Sasuke Toriyama btw
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I don't get why you people don't just go to reddit. Same garbage that's spammed here is spammed there and there's supposedly more people
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Dragon Ball Reddit
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>reddit
Who?
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I don't know if I can support my hero anymore after finding out that he was a slaveowner...
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Jiren but with a big afro
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>>286692049
Slavery is a choice btw.
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>>286692030
The dub version on 4chan
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>>286692049
Zlybro...
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>4chan
who?
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>>286692229
>out of nowhere
Tienrus…
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>>286692253
Huh? Who's Tienrus? That's not "Tienrus", that's DBS Broly (aka Nuly).
I just wanted to post a cool fanart I gound of him....
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>>286692302
This is a Zly genny I'm afraid
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>>286692302
>IESLBrus
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When will you finally realize that Shueisha sacrificed Dragon Ball to make way for One Piece?
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>>286692367
>Juan Piss

It's actually losing popularity. That's why they're using DB to save face.
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>>286692318
Yup, yup, YUP.
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>>286692229
>I'm such a happy Chad!
Yes, Broly sure is!
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>>286692427
Gay.
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>>286692415
*cuck
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>>286692427
>Sexual assault

Not funny.
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goten is gohan's son
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>>286692470
he should "go thank" him haha
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>>286692507
Kek
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>>286692507
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>>286692507
I don't get it. Gokubro btw.
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>>286692470
I get it, I love incest! Bejitabro btw.
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>parroting
See?
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I like dicks, Jirenbro btw
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>>286692857
Based GTfaggot.
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>>286692427
KEKKYRAPEY
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>>parroting
>See?
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>>286692857
Jiren is a chaste hero.
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>>286692913
nice selfie
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>>286692913
Is that a diaper lying on the floor?
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>>286692919
Jiren is pure white because he keeps holding his cum in and the cum is now in his blood and skin
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>>286692984
I don't think that's how it works.
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>>286693029
t. never survived 2 weeks of nofap
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>>286693029
Does Jiren even have a penis? How big is it?
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>>286690422
These are those who have RAILED me!
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>>286693099
Ask your mom.
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>>286693186
She said you had a micropenis and you apologized to her for being a jobber.
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>>286693360
>>286693360
>>286693360
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The J in Jiren stands for Jobber
It also stands for Jesus
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>>286693338
Oh my, it appears that I have fucked your dumb bitch of a mother's brains out so hard that it gave her dementia!
Apologies for that.
besides, it was cold in your house, you should turn up the thermostat
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>>286693405
It's okay Jiren-sama I'm sure it's super big, plus it must be a grower not a shower
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>>286693405
She said you handed her a card that says "I'm a delusional schizophrenic, don't believe what I say".
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>>286693461
Pintar...
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Shenron is built for clock correction
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>>286693405
weak comeback. that's another loss for renny roo
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