This son of man will lose his little puppy in the next episode.
>>286707750nooooo
>Read the leaks>No flashback of Hippolyta meeting Heracles, falling in love with him, and explaining the reason for her obsession>No pursuit of HippolytaWhy?
>>286708852>the leaks Post them
>>286708852>rushed mess keeps being a rushed messShouldn't be surprising after how they massacred last episode
Assassin's the sexiest and it's not even close
>>286709529The nuns existShe’s second
>>286709529She's only into nihilistic short men
>>286708852Is this adapation officially Heaven's Feel 3 spring song-tier?
>>286709263
>>286709684It’s been a solid 8/10 as far as adaptations go.
>>286709685>they show Tsubaki’s backstory and how her and pale Rider metWait really?That’s kino
>>286708812>he was a retard so he got BTFOLiterally no different from any Gil jobbing ever. Dude acted like a stupid fuck and got raped. His complacency leds to his loss against Shirou, Sakura, Saber, Lancelot, Alcides and the list goes on and on. There was no sneak attack, he jobbed the exact same way he always does.
What the fuck does my homie Kirei have to do with Ayaka?
>>286710161Memberberry
For once, Jetretard is rightcomplacence=/= Sneak attack. It just means he was being stupid. It could have easily been another Accel Zero scenario. Karl could have jumped him.
>>286710237Or he simply got fucked solo like he did against Lancelot and unlike Lancelot, Karl wasn't disteacted so he actually finished the job and put Gil in the cuck cage.
>>286710161Put together the pieces retardUse information from the start to piece together the mystery
>>286710355Sure, but there's no way to know. I just agree that complacence isn't the same as a sneak attack.
>>286710355Well, Karl said "us" so that could easily mean multiple. Karl never fights alone either. Even in his battles, he's always fighting with servants.
>>286710417"us"
>>286710465karl is a schizo?
>>286710417There's nothing we know about the Servants that Karl got. Gilgamesh is not an exception.
>>286710397This >>286710587 was to you.
>>286710587We literally fight them. Did you play the game?And not knowing isn't evidence against in the first place. It'd just be inconclusive.
>>286710121>Jet mentioned AGAIN You're watching that every day, don't you?
>>286710417He does fight alone in his boss fight using his mecha
>>286708852they butchered or straight up cut like 90% of the important scenes so far. why did you think this would be any different?
>>286709769It's been pretty bad since the hospital fight started
>>286710792Disagree, it's been consistently great as far as Fate adaptations go
>>286710817Tine is not that tall
>>286710927Nah way too rushed, most characters barely get any screentime. Plus they started fucking up the fights too.
>>286711001Even with the omissions it's been consistently great as said.You focus too much on the negatives and ignore the positives
>>286711108I draw the line when things just happen without explanation and you basically dont know whats happening unless you read the LN, if that happens it's failling as an adaptation.
>>286711185That's basically every Fate anime.
>>286710927not exactly the highest of bars
>>286711226True, but I digress. Most anime can only dream of getting an adaptation as good as this one.
>>286710642Giltard is still deluded about Gilgameme being able to beat JetGOD in Zero and losing his 32 NP line so all he has now is shitposts trying to downplay the Servant who Nasu said in mats is the strongest of all in terms of individual power.
>>286709529You have to become Muslim to fuck her though. Many more hoops involved as well.
>>286711775As a Servant, her hymen will be reconstructed the next time she’s summoned so it’s all good.
>>286711488>>286711701How does one acquire an Ayaka gf
>>286711608>strongest of allOh no, he doesn't know>対個人であれば最強の一人とされた>one of the strongest
Realistically, if you summoned a powerful Mentor like Hero (Chiron, Merlin, Scáthach, etc) and were a Rin tier mage that could maintain their existence past the end of the grail war. What's to prevent keeping them around as a generational teacher for your mage line? Bazett still maintained rune magic similar enough to Cu Chulainn, and even with the modern human weakling era, any training by a heroic spirit would put them orders of magnitude above their humans peers. If nothing else, any friendly Caster you summoned could (generationally) supply your mage line with top of the line Mage Workshops and Mystic Codes (see: prototype with the Caster mass producing Noble Phantasms).
>>286711850Cope.
>>286709684>>286710792It's a bad adaptation but as far as it goes as a Fate IP, it's pretty good.Reading the Manga there was a lot of context left out of the anime that would have been very helpful to know, I can only imagine the LN has even more context for the scenes.The problem is that the modern anime scene prioritizes aura and hype moments over slower scenes (like Fate/Zero had) to keep a fast pace that appeals to Gen Z.
>>286711850Furthermore, the caveat is for single combat. Lancelot is an anti-unit fighter. He's strong in duels. Not much in the way of nukes or dealing with groups.
>>286711952Quoting the wiki? How about you use the actual MATS lmaoThe guy who translated this had issues with >の一人He even translated gilkek as the strongest in human history instead of "one of"
>>286711775>You have to become MuslimDon't worry, I'll take one for the team.
>>286711953Fate/Zero rushed the entire ending to give us a filler episode of Rin doing nothing on the other hand
>>286712076Doesn't it also retcon doing into actually doing something instead of her just learning>yea all your childhood friends are dead?
>>286711962>Not much in the way of nukes or dealing with groups.That's the point? What do you think individual means? His Arondight beam is unconfirmed A what nuke are you talking about? An A rank beam is at best passable, maybe good if he can pair it witth his unnamed Tsubame attack from FGO. The point is that with Arondight he is pretty much unbeatable unless ganked.
>>286711775>You have to become Muslim to fuck her though. Many more hoops involved as well.She abandoned her name, which means she disowned her family. Which means we don't need her father's approval to have her, just HER approval.
>>286712121No, since it's just filler
>>286712217>You need just the religious fanatic's approvalokay, so, did I stutter or something?
>>286711988Okay then now show who else is mentioned on the same category then.
>>286693599 >>286709205 >And yet, he and his entire pantheon were powerless against MosesWill we ever see him as a servant?
>>286712259>okay, so, did I stutter or something?No matter how you slice it, fighting for her alone is easier than fighting her entire family. Also, she is extremely self-critical and has low ego. There are down sides but she is otherwise 10/10 partner.
>>286712404Anyway, were the Hashshashin Sunnis or Shiites?
>>286711953The problem is that they're cramming 6 volumes into a 12 episode anime, Fate Zero was just 4 volumes and it got 25 episodes. It's impossible to have slow scenes or get attached to any character with that pacing.
>>286712478Shiites
>>286711962Berserker Lancelot is only good at dealing with groups depending on what he manages to turn into a NP. In the modern era he could sweep HGWs easily but if summoned in like the middle ages he would only be able to spam Arondight as his reliable source of power. Worked well enough for his time despite everyone having stronger beams, damage cancelation on Arondight goes a long way. He doesn't really need to beam clash, just swing his sword and delete his enemies big scale attack, forcing them to face him at what he's best at.
>>286712579Great, so enjoy still being hated by the supermajority of the Muslim world while also being hated by evangelicals and jews. Nice.
>>286712478Ismaili Shiites.
heh...*fixes bow tie**checks breath*Gil...*dramatic zoomin*...LOST!
>>286712679NTA but the statement being referenced is for when he has Arondight in hand, so KoO is excluded from the context
>>286712885Yeah I know. Just confirming there's no reason why Arondight would help him deal with groups or nukes at the level of "strongest". Arondight is passable at best in those regards.
>>286711952Jets is complete fodder that can't touch Gil without a Madness Enhancement boost or outside weapons he wasn't summoned with.He has 0 wins without help.
>jets posting in 2026The last time he was relevant was in 2011, let that sink in
>>286711608>Jetspic that can't understand basic english and using fucking wikipedia for basic words is talking about mistranslationsAmusing.
>>286713463Brother, 50% of last thread was him baiting anons to argue with him on powerlevels.He even tried baiting in /fgog/ when the thread was dead. He's desperate. >>>/vg/560157636
>>286713386this is the first time im reading this quote properly>there's no way you could expect him to have the prudence to avoid that powerhouse team and survive to the end>doomed to failureSo he's saying that Lancelot dies so long as he and Kariya focus on Gilgamesh and Tokiomi? Why does Urobutchi give so much conflicting information? I'm positive he once said that team berserker could beat the other servants
>>286713746In FGO Kariya literally imploded and passed out after Gil was killed. In Zero Kariya got almost killed by Tokiomi if it wasn't for Kirei. Lancelot will win that fight, but after that Kariya isn't going to be lasting until the end.
>>286713386Gil without help from GoB literally stared at Nine Lives as he got hit and had to be saved by Enkidu LMAO.
>>286713386>jets is complete fodder who can't touch gil without his abilitiesis this retard serious?
I may already be a corpse, but my sins are eternal.And so, I will surrender my body and soul to the throne of oblivion that wanders in Hades.My great enemy and pitiful companion, dance with me in my insane race.... Nine Lives .
>>286713463>tfw this movie came out in 2011
Jester is the strongest
I'll never understand the Jetspic obsession with such a mid character
>>286709685They're going back to adapt Tsubaki's backstory? Interesting.
>>286713847So a 4 vs 1 led to Kariya nearly dying? How would a 1 vs 1 be better?
>>286713847You are not listening to what I said. Butcher once said that Team Diarmuid's best shot was letting Berserker deal with the other servants, then beating Berserker, but evidently Kariya would tunnel vision on team tokiomi and is doomed on that front. he won't even see the other servants
>>286711185>I draw the line when things just happen without explanation and you basically dont know whats happening unless you read the LN, if that happens it's failling as an adaptation.>>286711953>It's a bad adaptation but as far as it goes as a Fate IP, it's pretty good.>Reading the Manga there was a lot of context left out of the anime that would have been very helpful to know, I can only imagine the LN has even more context for the scenes.So hold on for one cotton-picking minute, when I claimed this was a bad adaptation because it needed you to hunt around supplementary material just to understand what the fuck is going on you all said I was trolling. Apologize.
>>286711898A rin tier mage still has to win the HGW to keep a servant. There's nothing preventing a servant from staying to help you and nothing preventing the servant from going away to do their own thing
FSF is a good adaptation. Relatively speaking, compared to the multitude of anime, it's got some pretty high production value and the direction IS quite good. But there are flaws. The omissions and fast pacing are bad, but even with that, it's not enough to discredit the good
Season 2 will pick up the slack with flashbacks
>>286711217Not the DEENime.
>>286714200Kariya is KO'd but Lancelot could keep going and fought later vs 4. Kariya worms can power KoO Lancelot for several hours even if he isn't around.
>>286714250The line is talking about Kariya not surviving and making it to the end. He's gonna get a stroke eventually like he did in FGO.
>>286713887>Gil without help from something he was summoned with got ganged up by Alcides, Ishtar and Huwawa and lostFunny, Was Berserker Lancelot summoned with Jets and Guns in his Spirit Origin? He also needed Madness Enhancement to stand a chance too.He only has Arondight and 2 worthless NPs.And the moment he drew out Arondight, he got killed by Invisible Air lmaoAt least Gil has solo wins. Berserker Lancelot has 0.
>>286714704>Gil without help from something he was summoned withLancelot is summoned with Knight of Owner lol.>he got killed by Invisible Air lmaoOh you are typing from Gilfag Lostbelt. Did he actually win in FSF where you are from
>>286714704Giltard still struggling with the fact that death from mana consumption being canon in Fate.
>>286714781Ah yes, Knight of Owner. Tell me. Does Knight of Owner let Berserker Lancelot summon a Jet or Guns or does he have to get it from somewhere else?Why are we talking about FSF? I thought you like talking about Berserker Lancelot? The man with ZERO 1v1 wins? The guy that ran away from Iskandar after 1 hit? The one that lost to a C-rank Noble Phantasm? The guy that lost to Human Gilles? The guy Karl knew would've job like fodder?
>>286714864>replying to me multiple times AGAINSomeone's mad. Lmao>death from mana consumption being canon in Fate.If he's dead, how was he able to talk? Give me the definition of the word Corpse from Wikipedia, Jetspic.
>>286714946>The guy that lost to Human Gilles?When did this happen?
>>286707750FSF has been fun so far, decent adaptation.
>>286714946>Does Knight of Owner let Berserker Lancelot summonIt allows him to take control of them and turn them into NPs. They are pretty worthless without Lancelot's NP.>Why are we talking about FSFBecause you sre writting from a Lostbelt so I wanted to make sure which other events changed in your Lostbelt. Maybe Gil actually won there.>The man with ZERO 1v1 wins?It seems like the dogfight didn't happen in your Lostbelt as well. Damn. Here's what happened in Panhuman History, Gilfag.
>>286714343>A rin tier mage still has to win the HGW to keep a servant.Technically, you just need to END a grail war, or survive. Winning is not necessary.>>286714343>There's nothing preventing a servant from staying to help youCommand spellsComraderylove of the gameEvery grail war follows two states: either the Servant thinks the world of their master or hates them, the latter don't live long.
>>286715147>dogfightLancelot himself admitted he lost this
>>286714256>ApologizeI won't because I wasn't part of these threads whenever that happened. This is my experience watching the anime then reading the manga.
>>286715217Lancelot didn't even regard this a fight. It was a dance.
>>286714998>schizo rambling againI heard you were calling for your bf for 2 days straight without reply, are you happy you actually got to see the dude today?>If he's dead, how was he able to talk?Apparently Diarmuid had not received terminal damage to his Spirit Core from being stabbed in the chest, probably the wind killed the dude or something. Maybe he choked on his blood and that did him in.
>>286715415>I heard you were calling for your bf for 2 days straight without reply, are you happy you actually got to see the dude today?qrd?
>>286715349ok but he said he lost.
Can Accelerator kill Servants?
Fate writers could never
>>286715501>Lancelot lost at Dancing with the StarsDamn that sucks I guess.
>>286715519The only reason guns can't kill servants is they don't have magic quality. That's why Lancelot is good with guns. So it depends on whether or not Accelerator can imbue magic quality that servants are vulnerable to. It's all or nothing.
>>286715468Dude had been trying to bait a Lancelot shitpost discussion for 2 days and no one took the bait. Been trying really hard talking about muh jetfag, replying to himself constantly bringing out all the bait in the GoB (Gate of Bait) and nobody took it. Well now the Jetfag really is here talking about Lancelot, he must be happy.
>>286715519Doesn't this dude tank galaxy and universe destroying attacks nowadays?
>>286715519Raildex a shit. Only good thing about it is Misaki's tits.
>>286715519Jester is the closest you gonna get to Fate Accelerator.
Does the novel explain why Kirei is suddenly there in Ayaka's flashback or was that not covered yet?Truly you can't have a single Fate without Kirei being involved or referenced in some way, which is great.
>>286715192>Technically, you just need to END a grail war, or survive. Winning is not necessary.really, it's about preventing the other schizo mages from killing you and your servant. and your servant HAS to die for them to reach the root so you are the number 1 target.assuming you survive but can't win, that's not the end of the story because your mana economy likely isn't enough to sustain your servant at all, unless you have the giga mana pool and a giga supply of people like this: ayaka, sieg, demon pillar (like lev). So you'd be looking at alternate and sustainable way to up your mana fuel gauge assuming that your servant doesn't have a good mana refund or a way to generate mana. Like getting a magical reactor or mystic code or access to leylines or SOMETHING. Money is also a big factor. As a rin tier mage, you are going to be pretty well moneyed and be a scion to some well bred mage family. Either you fight to control those sources or find some allies that will help you. You probably have a bright future ahead of you at the Clock Tower... unless they decide to sealing designate youServants are also just people. You might fall out of contact with your friend. Your friend might also have ambitions to conquer the world or other wishes for the grail. They might fall in love with you or someone else or decide to go travelling or decide to be hired by you or help you. Or you might turn into sociopathic ShitMage101 and they might decide that you've gone off the deep end and need to be stopped.
>>286716883(cont) A real monkey paw might curl if you couldn't find a relevant mana source and have to decide with really unethical mana sources that would piss off your servant or letting them go.
>>286716943Medea is probably the best partner, she's unethical enough to use humans as a fuel source, but principled enough to not kill them unless she has to. She has a good mana tank and is good at setting up labyrinths and shit. If you treat her decently, that's way beyond most shitmages and you can reasonably ensure her loyalty. She's also a neet so you don't have to worry about her going on rampages and conquering the world.Casters in general are good for fucking off from the Grail War, but Medea combines a lot of desirable qualities, and that isn't getting into how much Nasu wanks her.
>>286709529true facts someone needs to slow down her action scenes, she is hot as FUCK in motion
>>286717138yerp and she probably won't complain if you go Clocktower Mage 101. Like, even Solomon/Romani who is pretty tolerant has a WTF moment when Marisbury's human experimentation side is revealed. Thing is, a lot of characters might be cute and young during the war, but when they grow up properly, they might resort to inhuman shit and a degree of moral flexibility is required.To make things worse, the most easily accessible mana sources are the most unethical. Just look at Bazdilot. or the Yggdmillennia homunculus powerplant. etc
>>286717321I think Medea had a good thing going, she drained a whole bunch of people at once instead of killing individuals. If you expanded it to just mildly inconveniencing an entire city at once it would be much more palatable. And if you could actually find a leyline you wouldn't even have that problem anymore.
>>286716089Kirei is just there because he's super popular to the nips. He doesnt really have anything to do with FSF but everytime he comes up, there's like thousand of tweet/reaction mentioning him.
Fuck Rin
>>286719569Yes.
>>286717501People really overestimate Medea for basic shit any Caster could do. Even Pale Rider who isn't a caster did what she did 1000x times larger and faster. Based on LB1 alone I'd rate Avicebron at least 3x better than Medea.>can make infinite golems>golems can be made from anything>He sees some rocks nearby, golem. he sees some snow nearby, golem. Sees some water nearby, water golem>Golems are far stronger in battle than skeleton warriors>Requires no real mana>All casters are said to be incredibly mana efficient servants according to Kadoc, any real caster will basically turn your investment down to zero.>Golems were strong enough to stop Achilles chariot in Apocrypha despite it being unstoppable>Golems strong enough to capture Spartacus with his EX rank situational strength>Golems can literally do anythingIts not that she's head and feet above everyone, its that every single half decent caster should be able to have at least that much versatility on command. Stealing mana from the land isn't super hard for themLook at Caster gilgamesh>As strong as Enkidu, a top rank servant>No arrogance>Can see the future at all times>Can call upon all magic weapons in existence>Can see the future years in advance>Has a tablet which can control all of reality according to his bond CECaster Cu>easily beat Emiya with hand to hand combat>Beat Saber using Wickerman>Rune magecraft requires no incantation time>He can easily cast runes while moving>He's basically Odin>Can call upon dogs
>>286719496Its BECAUSE they're trying to allude to the fact she's not Ayaka, but she's someone from Fuyuki, someone who was there between the fourth and fifth wars, someone who could only be there during the period when Gilgamesh was still Ko-Gil, they're trying to make you put the pieces of the mystery together yourself. By showing Kotomine they're trying to force you to realize the time frame, because Kotomine being there tells you exactly when she met him.
>>286720288I don't have much frame of reference for the other casters, I just use Medea because she's cute and comes to mind easily. Paracelsus is arguably a better fortress builder than she is and he's literally the father of alchemy.
Where is the reincarnated Gil from the 4th war? Shouldn't he have felt Enkidu and tried to meet him?
>>286720362>Where is the reincarnated Gil from the 4th war?
>>286720362You mean the dead one? Because FSF takes place after FSN, from a variation of HF route according to the author. Its also the reason the Einzeberns all sealed themselves away because the greater grail was destroyed in HF, except something caused Filla to reactivate despite being sealed.
>>286720288>Caster Cu>>easily beat Emiya with hand to hand combatHe couldn't beat a half dead Emiya as a Lancer, and he wasnt even tryin to win.
>>286708852reading the LN, most of her actual bigger fight is all the way in Volume 8 and 9. 9 dedicating like half of it for her. It's mostly because she's not suppose to show off until they reveal her master which is very important.
>>286720390Narita already confirmed FSF isn't UBW route. He said its HF with a few changes, such as Shinji surviving.Case Files novels is based on UBW route, although the events of Case Files also takes place after every route regardless of the events of the route. Which is why Shirou appears in those novels.
>>286720390>>286720411Oh, I remembers some anons saying it was a timeline where FSN hasnt happened. I found it strange because there were a few lines around ep 2 or 3 implying it happaned.Humour me. What about the other wars winners?
>>286720362the current/modern rule around servant memories is that other servant instances only get the record upload on death of the servant instance that died.
>>286720461There's a thousand different "however's" for how memories workAnastasia shows a servant can physically choose for their memories to not return to the throne, so that no other instance of themselves will receive those memories.There's also Serenity where any version of her that finds happiness gets wiped out and reset, she stops existing. Because a version of her that finds happiness has no reason to answer the call anymore, so they have to keep getting factory reset versions each time one of them falls in loveAlso Heracles in UBW route physically choosing to not go back to the throne.
>>286720414As caster he gets rid of all his jobber energyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64kC7GzxbnUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTpAKVkbMMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on2JDS17pFE
are there any dead apostles that have the generic balding lanky vampire look that nosferatu/orlok has or is type moon cringe and gay
>>286720288Caster is the best meta servant for any average mage honestly because the mana cost. In an HGW I think everyone should be picking it no matter what you get.
>>286717165>>286709529truely a waifu>>286720652>generic look varies from era to era
>>286712516>6 volumes into a 12 episode animeJesus, why? that's a bad idea overall, even if the pacing is slow
>>286721127Keep crying about your pacing, faggot. We're here for big fight scenes, good animation, good music, and nothing else. Nobody cares about those cut scenes because they DON'T FUCKINGMATTER
>>286721464https://youtu.be/xfrUUswFI3c?t=147
>>286720652Currently no but maybe in the future if more Tsukihime-related things come out,some of the lore always given me Vampire the Masquerade vibes.Nrvnqsr Chaos is the closest thing but not quite
>>286721643>Nrvnqsr ChaosNero Chaos Chaos
>>286721464>Big fight scenesNobody will remember this shit fight when every fight always being interrupted or offscreen.
>>286720652No. Because they won't sell like that
>>286721733No one remembers anything. Even the most famous works, such as The Matrix, The Lord of the Rings, Truman Show, Akira, Death Parade, Ergo Proxy or Ghost in the Shellor fucking whatevercontain numerous messages that are generally overlooked or ignored.So whatever.
>>286720288Tbf if Medea has a whole country full of magic materials (LB1) or 2 months of prep (Apo) she'd be just as capable if not more, sans Adam which was probably why the counter force nudged his summon in LB1.
>>286721877Who was it again that stopped Achilles chariot?
>>286713386>getting cockblocked by Tokiomi Lmao, where is this from? Also, it truly is fucking GRIM when a dude with much bigger balls that TokioBITCH didn't get the girl - it would save the world from the tragedy of Rin and Sakura birth.
>>286721811Wtf are you talking about? Don't compare this pretentious shit to that.
>>286714387Great production value with a weak story < weak production value with a great story
>>286713887Nine Lives is literally the pinnacle of human martial arts, retard
Quality fucking plummets when you binge this thing.
>>286720315So it's someone that underwent some brainwashing process to think they're Ayaka? Noice.
>>286720652Night of Wallachia comes the closest. He's got a head full of hair, but is otherwise the stereotypical vampire down to the outfit, this is actually a result of him being a phenomenon that materializes rumors and fears. He's a fun guy.
Sex with ayaka
>>286722672Image didn’t get attached
>>286722336Of curse.
Jetkeks and Gilfags flinging shit at each other, when both of them get boddied by fucking girls.How embarrassing.
>>286715519Yeah no diffs 99.9% of the verse which includes all Servants (excluding Beast Class)
>>286722793I'm going to miss her bros
