>dubfags will look you in the eye and say this is good
>they are literally okay with anime being bastardized as long as le funny western slang and memes are inserted
Fuck localizers
I mean, it's awful but that's how zoomers talk
I hate this shit
>>286714085I don’t give a fuck how they talk, if this shit isn’t in the original Japanese then it shouldn’t be in the dub. And Japanese zoomers don’t talk like this.
Localizers, dub VAs and dubtards should be killed and fed to cattle
>>286714085That's how AMERICANS talk, I don't want to hear AMERICANS when I'm watching Japanese anime
>>286714188This shit is also infecting subs as well. Localizers are a cancer.
>>286713976"Dubfags" are literally the ones complaining. How disingenuous and retarded can you be? Do you think somene watching it subbed will hear this forced zoomershit, no. Consider neckrope.
>>286714019>>286713976I love dubs because they allow me to watch anime while working without having to learn a whole nother language. however this one will put me off of watching the anime as a whole, you could say that its gonna age like milk, but the fact is that this is for the most part already wildly outdated for slang.However in spanish when they add mexican slang (im not even mexican) I find it to be the funniest shit ever, when its in comedic moments. I don't know how to reconcile my double standard. I guess because in spanish dubbing there has been a long tradition of adding specifically mexican slang in dubs, like in KND, or adventure time.However hen argentinos do it in their manga translations its the cringiest shit I've ever read, and I have their accent too. Ivrea ojalá se vaya en alta banca rota lrmpqlrp
>>286714283This shit is infecting subs as well, faggot. Also we hate to see anime bastardize by these cancerous localized clop. Dub watchers meanwhile love this shit. Tourists are cancer. >>286714423Kill yourself, tourist.
>>286714423reconcile it by killing yourself, filthy dubfag spic
>>286714504>>286714510not everyone can live off of their mommy, people with jobs wanna watch anime too
>>286714423>>286714532Based mexican chad>>286714504Corny EOP filtered by not just learning jp. >touristOutting yourself as a zoomer too, you wanna talk about cancer infecting something, it's you and people in your age bracket shitting up the board.
>>286714532People with jobs can watch subs, it’s not that hard
Why would subfags care about dubs? The unnatural slang you’re complaining about in dubs is something you don’t come across in subs. Meanwhile, Japs have a weird way of communicating when read in English.
>>286714423
This is for women so not only I don't care, I encourage its defacing.
>>286714561Literally said Im not mexican, I just appreciate the way they talk funny
There used to be chud.comWhen did the term get all culture war and shit
>>286713976>>286714172Bad localizers aside, isn't the point of that subplot that you have to accept the hoe phase of your partner?
>>286714172male pride is less woke than fragile masculinity? is the only bad part here that they used a phrase thats considered a buzzword rn even though its the exact same meaning as the sub?
>>286713976What's the issue here?
>>286714828Are you retarded? Pride isn't an inherently bad thing.
>>286713976What the fuck is a chud?
>>286714867Don't botherDubfags lack reading comprehension
>>286714085no it isnt
>>286714725>that you have to accept the hoe phase of your partner?Modern anime is vile
>>286714085It's how a terminally online blob thinks zoomer talk.
>>286714867Shes literally saying its a pain on her. It's the same meaning but with an annoying buzzword in it
>>286713976modern manga translations aren't any better
>>286714878They're kinda like the Fins but live underground and eat people I guess.
>>286714949this is totally a modern anime problem... if you completely ignore the 80s and 90sshit, you can go back even further with girls like Mine Fujiko
>>286714689a little while after the term "chad" became commonplace on the internet
ITT ESLs seething over seeing contemporary American slang.
>>286715161
>>286715265that isnt even the meaning of down bad. it means to be crippingly in love/obsessed with someone else who either doesnt care or like you as much. so either they do not mean it in a slang way and its a coincidence, or they are even more retarded than initially apparent
>>286715249better ESL than EOP
>>286715342>so either they do not mean it in a slang waythe rest of the translation is equally bad, whoever did it wasn't taking it seriously
>>286714828Yes. One is making a statement the other is hate speech.
>>286715221Nigga please. The slut acceptance in modern highschool romcoms is 100% western influence bullshit
Localizing the dialogue is obviously always bad but what I'm curious about is why do they exclusively get terrible voice actors to the dubs? Tons of western cartoons have great voice acting, why do they only hire the riffraff for anime dubbing?
>>286715584Because there is zero prestige in anime dub voice acting. If you are that talented, you won’t be going anime dubs.
>>286715584union
>racially motivated murder the meme is now a normalfag jokewe can't have anything
>>286715221Yeah I remember that time when Mine Fujiko lectured the audience about how men shouldn't care about her being a literal whore. Iconic scene.
>>286715584anime dub companies are cheap af for english shit, in spanish we get pretty good stuff as long as they're not like. borderline fandubs. english ONLY gets fandubbers turned chrunchyroll slaves, spanish more often than not gets not super prestigeous voice actors, but TV dubbers can work on cartoons and anime equally sometimes, at least thats what I've seen, though you get a lot of fandubbed crap too. The voice actors for 90s stuff r basically celebs
I think “people” who watch dubs (or pay to watch garbage subs on Crunchyroll) should be killed
>>286715584Contracts. The studios who get licensing rights to dub the localization for English are usually one of like 2 or 3 companies. Said companies each have their own voice actors under contract. Most of the time, the actor is there because they have nothing else and the company keeps hiring them because they do it on the cheap.Basically: the jews.
Why do studios and companies even allow their products to get tainted with dubs, anyway?
>>286716216yeah im ngl, while it may seem huge to us, to them the foregin market is like "oh thats a nice little extra to have." Especially with animation, we barely buy manga, the streaming companies give them barely any money for the liscence, westerners do not buy blu rays, not like they even release them, we buy figures often but not as many cuz of the fees of importation from abroad, and if we do we mostly buy cheap prize figures at alarming prices.
>>286716216Money
>>286716216Studios and the companies are not in this for artistic integrity. So long as tasteless retards keep patronizing dubs, dubs will be made for tasteless retards.
>>286713976>>286714019you're just mad the dub script made you realize you're watching stupid zoomer anime for alphies
>>286714085You have never interacted with a zoomer>but I am a zoomerExactly
>>286716549Did he actually get Playboy specifically or is the translator using it as a generic term for gravure magazines?
>>286714090>munchiesThey are potheads in the dub?
>>286716216Most Americans watch anime dubbed. Look it up. Studios reach more people (and therefore make more money) by allowing their works to be dubbed.
>>286714949>>286714725>>286715086>>286715221>>286715578>>286715754You are all arguing about a fake scenario that you manufactured solely to be angry about.
>>286716750They literally spell it out for you, retard-kun
>>286716827You didn't read the manga, you didn't watch the anime and you probably didn't even bother to read the posts in the thread that explained to you why you were a retard for thinking that was ever the point in the first place.
>>286714085And? Their dumbass shit can fuck off
>>286716750The whole show is a fake scenario that they manufactured to be western shit.
>>286713976I welcome the robotic and monotone translation from machines, fuck these shitty localizers.
>>286716216The average japanese normalfag watches western movies dubbed into Japanese. EN -> JP dubs are better than JP -> EN dubs, but they're still worse than the original actors' voices
>>286714591Based, I only watch old anime which lacks this problem and is also not homogenized slop
How can dubtards watch this this slop?https://x.com/shikebi/status/2031885678984741366
>>286717001>im-fucking-plying
Trannylators do this just to piss off people on purpose right? That's way more respectable than actually thinking meme words are a job well done.
>>286713976i'm honestly more disturbed by the third-rate sounding voices. western animations like walluce & gromet and spongebob squarepants have superior voice actors, but anime dub always has the worst of the worst.it always sounds like some teenager trying super hard to sound like a cool anime character.
>>286717060legitimately just Californian retards who talk to coffee shop histers all day and think this is just how everyone speaks now
>>286716938No they don’t. JP watches stuff in English with subs.
no wonder why reddit likes this anime so much
>>286716873>retard-kun gives no argument, just his usual meltySasuga
>>286716618God this is so true of 99% of dubs. Anime is goofy and dumb and hearing it in your mother tongue made you realize it.
>>286716873She literally is the town bicycle, though
>>286715584Nepotism and unions>>286717060They see anime as a joke and get off on making it into memes to piss weebs off, yeah.Iirc the Jelloapocalypse guy, dude used to make videos making fun of how shitty anime is, got fired for saying the quiet part out loud, that the anime he was writing for had a shit story and transphobic characters so he was making it better.
>>286714188Learn japanese then? I dont watch american dubs, i watch german dubs instead
would [a/ accept AI dubs once it becomes really good maybe in 8-12 years?and i mean the AI dubbed voice will basically be the japanese voice but speaking in a different language, i can see a future where things like in-betweens stop being outsourced to korea and china instead they use AI for that, same with dubs.
>>286713976Dubsloppers deserve this and everything else they get. If you watched the dub, you didn't watch the show. This has been the most basic ground rule since before you were born.
>>286717438>accept AI dubsno, all dubs suck.
>>286717438I would listen to them out of curiosity to see how it would interpret characters. Actually watching in dub completely, probably not.
>>286717438I'd rather stop watching anime than watch fucking dubs
Do people in real life anywhere actually use the word chud seriously? I still have trouble believing people online use it without sarcasm. If I heard someone throw it at me irl I'd bust out laughing on the spot.
>>286717438Dubs shouldn’t even exist
>>286717653Only leftists and troons
>>286717653I know leftist IRL and I've never seen anyone use that word.
>>286714085No they don't
>>286717127it honestly just depends, I saw Anne of Green Gables (the live action tv show from 1985, not the anime) on japanese tv broadcast in english with JP subtitles, then I saw Home Alone in JP dub on broadcast a month later
>>286714085Be grateful it's not kek. My brother would something like>tryna not to listen in but>ahlie im a bum fr...
>>286718207I dormed with some guys in college who all spoke like this, I legitimately could not understand them half the time
>>286717438Ai will never be good. Fuck off.
>>286718253Were they black?
>>286718262>cars will never be good - horsechad
>>286718262Says who? You? You get to determine whether AI will ever be good or not?
>>286717653I've never heard people use it besides terminally online freaks and people asking "what the hell is this CHUD thing all over twitter"
>>286718262Still better than English voice “actors”.Also notice how the only ones that don’t like AI are leftists. That’s how you know it’s good.
>>286718430one of them was mexican, one was white, one was mystery meat brown
>>286714172>>286714090>>286714057>>286714019>>286713976both sub and dub are translations, go back to twitter. Neither of them are the Japanese. Also fake and gay, you dont even watch dubs, you are just reposting ragebait, kys.
>>286718936Localizations aren’t translations, retard.
no one who actually watches dubs have a problem with any of this, this is an imaginary problem rightwing ragebait. In fact this is preferred.
>>286719029both sub and dub is localized retard. Localized scripts is the only valid way to translate, even fansubs localize. Never talk about this topic ever again
This is why I always pirate all English versions of all anime and manga.I cannot wait for AI dubs to take over that entire industry and completely destroy it since dubfags have no standards anyways.
>>286719069Okay, tourist. We want accurate translations. Not localized slop
>>286719095seething about something that doesnt affect you, and justifying stealing. You lack the awareness of how subhuman you are
Dubs?My favorite dubs voice actor is Christian Bale, you might him from Howl's Moving Castle.
>>286719106There is no "we" tourist, you have no clue what is accurate, youre not Japanese. You will never be Japanese.
>>286719146Are you Japanese?
Twitter should have never been allowed to exist.
>>286719146You think the above examples in the dub are accurate? lmao fuck off dubfag
>>286719334At this point I can't even blame twitter, too many things have ruined the brains of people and the internet
>>286719337They are a lot more accurate than you think. Good translation conveys meanings not just literally translate each word, you have to match the tone and find equivalent words.If Japanese is usiing slang, then English should also use English slang to have the same effect and meaning, but you dont want that, you want just a literal translation where all of that is missing and excluded. That would be a bad translatioin,
>>286719406Oh no you're an idiot.
>>286719120This cancer does affect everyone, but at this point I think it's a losing battle, streaming services basically have anime on a chokehold and localizers are cut from the same cloth. They all belong to the same cabal that has been shaping anime to align to western values and sensibilities. Anyone over 30 can actually the gradual sanitization of anime as decades go by. Yes, Japaneze laws neutered anime back in the 90s but what's going on now is a whole different beast. I know for a fact that western companies have pushed for market oversaturation, most anime can't make profit unless the west picks it up for distribution, creating strategic interdependence. They're creating leverage and dictating terms to anime producers
>>286719438I know its too complicated for a peanut brain that wants an excuse to seethe. Too bad there is no translator that agrees with you>AI AI AI kys
>>286719406You can’t be serious.
>>286719468translate this
>>286719506USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS!
>>286719506>Dio Please! I need this Dio! My mom is kinda homeless!
>>286719564Are you literal ESL? That's not how "useless" is used, like why are mexicans giving their opinion on English translations?No, that's not accurate translation at all.
>>286719615There's no way someone can be this retarded
>>286719615lol
>>286719506Futile futile futile futile.
>>286719720That's better, and clearly not the same as "useless".But if we are talking dubs, try to say "Futile futile futile futile" out loud fast, does that sound cool?
>>286713976the Akira dub loses the whore ora buku or whatever pronoun thing and gun buster sounds weird due to the miss amino thing instead of using the nee-sama thing. I refuse to read while watching a film. there are only 2 things I want AI to do. sort my image folder into a usable borru system but on my machine so no one else has access to it and to dub japanese films so I can watch seven samauri and the rest of those films in the original english like god and the bear at the mall intended
>>286719763>nee-sama thing>i want weeb-speak in a dubholy autism, good thing they have a more mainstream target audience/
>>286719745No, and that’s why dubs are objective garbage
>>286717653it's another buzzword to bait chumps like (You)
>>286719847No, that's why a half-decent dub is not gonna say "futile futile futile futile" cuz that sounds retarded, they'll come up with something fitting that fits the context and meaning, which is more important than simply repeating some word 4 times.
>>286719913>half-decent dub Doesn’t exist, tourist.
>>286719945>, tourist.I love how actual brainlets that havent even watched 100 anime are calling everyone "tourist" because they dont fap to loli hentai every day. No youre the tourist. Seen more anime, know more Japanese, seen more dubs, grow up.
>dick-swinging contest on 4bongspeaking of muda muda muda
>>286719807I didn't say I wanted weebspeak. but the way they handled it in the dub is really awkward.
Why haven't you started learning Japanese yet?
>>286719406
>>286717127They don't. You can look up for yourself that nips are just much subhumans as the west
>>286719146>>286719106
>>286720116>r/im14andthisisdeep
>>286720081I learned hiragana and katakana. with that i can at least understand 20% of the text in manga and light novels since i've picked plenty of japanese words over the years by watching anime. i really need to get on with learning some kanji though
>>286720116That translator sounds like a retard. The fact that its a photo of a print on paper doesnt change this and doesnt make this random dude an authority.
>>286720081I'm learning german rn
>>286714532I work 10 hours a day (7 days a week instead of 5 in the last month too, fucking new account has me enslaved until I finish normalizing processes, fml), and I a) watch about 10 subbed anime every week, b) read like 20, 30 manga (mihon on my tablet before bed), c) read at least one novel every month and d) play at least a couple hours of vidya every day (lately been a lot into Session and Mewgenics).I'm also a spic. Mexican slang is ok in, like, Shrek for example, and sure, KND too, but it's hella cringe in anime. And it's not even blind elitism - a very small handful of English dubs are godly, like Baccano and Black Lagoon, and the same can be said for Spanish ones, like Mob Psycho and arguably later Konosuba. But by and large, the quality of dubs pales in comparison to the original language, particularly in anime, simply due to the size and importance of the industry.But seriously, I'm being so overworked I just got hemmies yesterday, and even then I'm watching these shows this season:- Golden Kamuy- The henchman who wants to fuck the hero party's healer (a couple episodes behind, might drop)- The adventurer with the succubus loli- Okirakugokurakurakurakurirakkusu (the one where the aristocrat's dad hates him)- The guy who got kicked out from the hero party and got adopted by a guild- The guys condemned to be heros- The Grail of Eris (which granted, I also read in manga form)- Omagoto (manga is so much better holy shit)- Frieren (reading since chapter 2 or 3)- The one with Unison Square Garden opening and ending where the chick is called Yoi (爆発しろ)- The one in OP (爆発しろ too)- Kunon- The one where the prince's dad loves him. Sasuga denka.- The one with the orphaned niece and the autistic writer auntPlus I dropped like 5 shows - the villainess one a few episodes after the second game started, the one with the death game, Mayonaka Heart Tune which for which I also dropped the manga months ago, etc.tl;dr: git gud spic fag
>>286720200scheise
>>286713976That's funny though
>>286719745the dub just switches between useless and muda whenever it feels like it
>>286720222Loa dubfags tienen retraso mental pero tampoco me tienes que contar toda tu vida.Should I read golden kamui? I tried to get into it but the main girl being a little kid made me lose interest.
>>286720222Oh, I also watch Ganso Bang Dream Chan, forgot because I was checking the subsplease schedule page>>286720361If you don't enjoy Golden Kamuy, drop it. It's dense as fuck.Also, I'm just saying that faggot argie has no excuse. "hurr I work so I can't watch subs", get the fuck out with that shit.
>>286719976Again, no good dubs exist. Fuck off, dubfag.
>>286720478Baccano, Black Lagoon, Ghost Stories. Maybe 2 or 3 more I can't remember right now. That said>>286719976>100 anime>not a newfagalso>saying tourist instead of newfaggb2/ribbit/
>>286720478Nobody forces you to watch them, why did you open this post? How about you fuck off retard
>>286720553All shit compared to the original. >>286720556Get the fuck off my board.
>>286720577>Get the fuck off my board.>my boardgo take a shower and dont kill yourself.
>>286720577Baccano, Black Lagoon and Ghost Stories are special because they're better than the original. Baccano inserts era and location-relevant accents, Black Lagoon inserts relevant grit, and Ghost Stories... is shit, so they basically made an official Abridged dub, turning a 2/10 kids horror anime into a 10/10 comedy. Also, Baccano and Black Lagoon have exceptional acting, which is something very common for Japanese VAs but basically non-existent for English ones.But we're basically in agreement. I'm listing 3 out of thousands of shows. An extremely small set of exceptions.
>>286715584You sure? I've seen plenty of cartoons with awful voice acting. Both union and non-union alike. Hell, even Simpsons and Family Guy have (d)evolved into the voice actors not giving two shits about their performances or the material.
>>286720663>better than the originalKill yourself
>>286720577>being so delusional that you can't accept things are objectively better than the shitty subs
>>286720747Let's take Baccano as an example. Although a few characters are definitely superior in the original (mainly Isaac and Miria), there is no way for the Japanese voices to capture what was captured in English, it being a show mainly set in America. The VA direction was extremely smart, and it paid off. Hell, it paid off enough that, once the Japanese BD first came out, it included the English dub.Something similar happened with Black Lagoon - it was like the VA director wanted it to sound like a Shane Black movie. Like a Hollywood action blockbuster. It also paid off.As for Ghost Stories, again, the source was shit, so turning it into a comedy definitely made it better than the original.But at least the first two examples have something that you can't find in OP: they're not pushing an agenda. They want to present the source material in the most faithful way, and given that the characters are Americans in both shows, the superiority of a very well done dub makes sense.Then there's dubs that some say are good too, but they're miles inferior to the original. The most obvious one is Cowboy Bebop. Its serviceable, but you can feel the difference in quality of acting and direction if you compare it to the original, and even more if you compare it to Baccano and Black Lagoon.But yeah, tl;dr: Baccano and Black Lagoon have dubs superior to the original because the characters are American and the respective voice directors did a fucking stellar job. But those are exceptions, almost all if not all other dubs are shit.
>>286713976>>286714019>>286714057>>286714090>>286714172You can't even call this shit "localization" at this pointthis is just straight up rewrites
>>286713976I'm not gonna bother finding all of them but here is the first line in the original Japanese毒なのに聞いてしまう"total chud" is certainly a choice.
>>286713976>Dub cast of literally whoDub 101, any good show would have better VAs.
>>286717351>JelloapocalypseAs expected from a guy thats into fart and eating shit unironically
>>286720182>Dubfag in charge of deciding what does sounds and doesn't sound retarded.lmao, self-awareness issue I see.
>>286721701fact is its written by ESL Nobokov and he has been debunked by the whole literary world. The person who posted the photo didnt even know who wrote it.
>>286716618>I don't know Japanese but let me tell you all about it
>>286721722>Nabokov>anything but the epitome of modern English prosekys illiterate faggot
>>286721756>Russian>epitome of English anything.ngmi
>>286721722Nabokov is a better writer in his third language than 99% of all native English speakers
>>286722047
>>286720890>suddenly attaching excessive importance to the setting when it can be used to defend dubs>the source (which I didn't watch) was shit >EOP using the word faithful to describe a fucking dub when it wouldn't even be appropriate when talking about subsdubniggers will be dubniggers
>>286720890>As for Ghost Stories, again, the source was shit, so turning it into a comedy definitely made it better than the originalThe whole "unpopular anime that america saved" is a myth. It was decently popular in Japan, and anyone who thinks it's funny has only watched joke compilations on YouTube. It's like Family Guy, can be fun in that context, but you try watching an episode and it's exasperating
>>286723764You forget that people actually watch full episodes of family guy. Thats the sort of intelligence level you're arguing over dubs with. I have been telling people the ghost stories dub isn't funny and it's a bad precedent for letting dubbers say whatever they want and they're all nepotist faggots who don't deserve to voice act for years. Its just taste though.
Where the FUCK are the FUCKING jannies
>>286715584Most dub actors aren't bad, anime dialogue is just nails on a chalkboard cringe and it becomes extremely noticeable when it's translated into a language you actually understand.
>>286717127They literally don't, AND they argue about it as much as you retards do.If you don't believe me, look into the Japanese dub of King of the Hill.
>>286713976>>286714172localizers will do stuff like this and then be utterly confused when you say you want AI to replace them.
>>286723459>say I only consider 3 dubs superior, and almost every other dub if not definitely other dub is shit>get called a dubniggerThere's exceptions faggot. Also, I speak Spanish (first language), English, Japanese (I used to scanlate and sub, I just haven't had the time for years) and some French. Fuck you.>the source (which I didn't watch) was shitGhost Stories had faithful subs too. It was shit.>suddenly attaching excessive importance to the setting when it can be used to defend dubsFuck you, I even mentioned Cowboy Bebop is meh at best. It's different for Baccano and Black Lagoon. Dubs are by and large hot garbage, in just those two shows (that I can think of), the dub is superior.>using the word faithful to describe a fucking dub when it wouldn't even be appropriate when talking about subsRight. Because providing superior acting when the setting allows it (particularly 1920s gangster accents to a mainly 1920s gangster show) or giving a chink a comically heavy chink accent and giving her the "Chinglish" nickname when the original has Revy and and her exchanging asian slurs, doesn't make a work faithful to the source. Get the fuck out.>>286723764lurk forever, we were watching the whole thing here since the 00s, much earrlier than any short compilation. Which was normal back then, again, stuff like abridged series (mainly Yu Gi Oh) were already quite popular. Go 67 skibiddi rizz back to roblox newfaggot, and stay there.
>>286725050>spic retardnever mind then
>>286716685Of course, who else will partake in dub scumming.
>>286713976who the fuck unironically uses chud?
