Is there a cultural reason why japanese films often have pacing issues? Like GitS has these long drawn out scenes but the whole film is like 83 mins long and it feels like it rushes into the end right as it's getting good.Same thing with gunbusters, even the OVA instead of the cut down film on criterion is like just under 3 hours long but basically doesn't show any actual fight scenes that are longer than few mins long and doesn't really develop any characters outside of Noriko and the coach. Jung just instantly goes from rival to friend and it's jarring because you think she's still being a sneaky bitch the first friend scene but no she's actually good, Smith gets some time but Jung's friend basically gets a name and then dies without saying 2 more lines.
>>286720223Pacing is a very subjective metric.I suspect films in 20 years will be very different due to the altered attention spans of current and future generations.
>japanese films often have pacing issuesway to go kid, not only are you completely unexperienced with Japanese films, you also have no idea that these problems permeate literally every fucking medium from every fucking country and every fucking time period.
>>286720223You have attention deficit disorder
>>286720223Westerners divide stories in three acts. Nips do it in four acts
>muh pacingmost retarded criticism ever, automatically outs you as a retard who hasn't watched enough media.
>>286720278>>286720371>>286720633Everyone was tearing this shitty trend apart with the demon slayer movie, cope harder
>>286720395weird, doesn't 4 mean death in moon ruins?
>>286720733It's an ancient theatre tradition that translated to cinema
>>286720223It's just the way of Japanese storytelling. It feels natural for them, but awkward for non-Japanese.
>>286720371>attention deficit disordera hoax pushed by big pharma
>>286720223>japanese filmsyou should specify anime
>>286720223They don't, you just watch overrated movies exclusively which happen to be low quality but fit for normalfag tastes.
Gunbuster has some loose threads from its bootstrap development processes, where it was always in flux if it was going to be 1 episode, 4 episodes, 6 episodes and what do we think the ova should be more of an outright parody or should we go in a different direction? It was changing and growing as it proved to have an audience. That said I don't think Jung is positioned as a major character, the ova doesn't need you to take her as a major character, and that sot of supporting character not being all that developed in a film/ova runtime isn't really a problem. The question is more 'does Jung work in context' not 'I wish Jung was more like I wish she was'. Nobody bats an eye when Porkins gets shot down in the original Star Wars without 15 minutes of character development and backstory. Not everyone needs it.
>>286721063the climax of the story is literally Jung crying because she doesn't want to lose Noriko and that happens mostly off screen. her friend dies and the friend didn't have a name or any voiced lines until like the scene before she died >>286720896nah, that's you
>>286720689>wojak>made-up twitter argumentfuck off faggot
>>286720223Yes.
>>286721468ki, like in dragon ball? 10?
>>286720884What fucking board do you think you are on? You only need to specify if you are not talking about anime.
>>286721208I'd say literally in the literary jargon sense pic related is the exact climax.And you know enough about Jung to figure out the source of her initial hostility and why it quickly vanishes toward Oneesama. You also know both Yung and Oneesama dress it up in bitchy girl clothes but they're both largely concerned Noriko can't hack it and she'll get herself killed. I guess that part of it's hard for you, where the characters can have feelings of jealousy held with genuine concern at the same time.
>>286721647I'm not even talking about that. Jung goes from literally fighting both of them, to the uneasy bath scene, to going to the beach and being best buddies with Noriko to >I'm going with you, do you think I care that my mech can't survive, I don't want to live without youlargely off screen and she's like the 4th biggest character. ever other character has even less development than her
>>286721729I wrote exactly about that but you don't get it. You're watching something that's inspired by girls sports dramas of the 70's. They're girls. They have ambivalent feelings. They say one thing and they mean another. If you understand the feelings behind their earlier fights then there's no discontinuity in what Jung does. Because she cared the entire time if read her. You keep looking for development for a perceived character change and you conclude it's not there and the ova meant for it to happen off screen or merely overlooked it. That larger development isn't there because you haven't grasped what the character actually was in those moments, if you had you wouldn't be looking for it in the first place.
>>286721887they clearly have all of the girls bonding off screen. they all mention going to get food in the showers. jung travels with noriko and noriko doesn't think it's that odd and they show them all playing truth or dare and they show them going to the beach. they do show it, but most of it happens off screen. the shower scene and the truth or dare scene are evidence of bonding going on
