It just kinda ruins the immersion when a complete bum fuck loser who never chose to exercised a day out of their own free will suddenly gains the ability to work hard and grind. Like bro, why not just make them a normal protag instead of a complete loser when starting out? At least that would have been believable.
>>286729188Imagine them still being socially awkward. Would rooted for them more
real answer is self insert, but it's easier to be motivated when you have proper, quantified progress like a video game instead of irl where you could spend months trying to learn something and still not be any good at it
>>286729294The gym literally has number based quanitified progress yet you don't see the loser mc going there, its just bad writing
>>286729332You just lift a little more weight per month, meanwhile beating a few slimes and get a new level means new skills and new magic on top of physical improvement, video games are addictive for a reason
>>286729188If he doesn't participate he gets punished for it though
>>286729332>gymlifting perfectly balanced weights in a controlled environment is worthless and only good to boost your egoreal world exercise hits diminishing returns really quickly, in an RPG system you get consistently stronger, often exponentially
This thread is giving me dejavu
>>286729188You choose to watch blank slates level up because you need your media prechewed, so don't get too uppity with your psychological analysis of laziness. You consume isekai trash instead of creating something; or even consuming things that could conceivably stimulate a thought or improve your mind in some way. But despite your intense laziness in this facet of your life, you might occasionally put some effort into something. Why is it impossible for isekai protagonists to be the same way?Your question also suggests a common misunderstanding about isekai. Isekai is not fundamentally a fantasy about a loser becoming a winner. It's a fantasy about a retard improving their GPA by playing video games.A harem of virgin sluts and societal respect might be side benefits, but the genre wouldn't need litRPG foundations if those were the real goal. Those are tangential additions to the fantasy. The protagonist can engage in hedonism while still working towards the quintessential Japanese goal: seeing higher numbers and earlier letters by their name.
>>286729188Sounds realistic. Think about the difference of training home and using a gym, someone giving you milestones and telling you that can in fact reach them if you do A, B and C do give you a strong motivation.>b-but I don't need a gymFirst I wouldn't believe you and second even if I did you would be quite the unique person, not the norm, humans need motivation to function, and a screen that give you milestones would be the ultimate motivation.
>>286729188You forgot to post a picture of Bakugo's harlot, Deku.
>>286732301milestones with factual results*
>>286729332I'm not a faggot nor a fatass to need to go to the gym
>>286729188this dude never played runescape
It's just cope for the people that want to self-insert. "I'm just being held back by society! I would totally be the greatest if I actually tried!"
>>286729188Bullshit. "From Zero to Hero" has been a popular premise for a very long time. It's fine to say that you think that it's somehow worse with RPG mechanics if you explain why you think so, but all you are doing is attacking it for the "Zero to Hero" aspect itself, yet you are framing it as if the RPG mechanics were at fault somehow. You are being disingenuous
>>286733437This