Genderbent boys are for their female childhood friends.
>twintails on page 10
>>286873810You sure about that?
>>286873810These flats are for me
>>286873810This was definitely a series that existed
>>286873810What if they don't have any friends?
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2026-03-18/k-manga-adds-destiny-unchain-online-ura-tokyo-manga/.235426>Crim's manga got licensedAnime announcement soon
>>286873810He will be shared by his friends as their pet.
>>286878022I'm not familiar with this one. Tell me more.
>>286873810Tail Red is the best girl
>>286880150It's not gay if your bro's back is that erotic
>>286873810omg it migu
>>286873810I would every single character in this series>but does that include-yes
>>286880915The cow? wtf???
>>286881074>>286881090This is wrong
>>286880974Did I stutter?
>>286880123Not that anon. MC is an MMO player who's parents run the game and run an experiment to keep him permanently log onto it for reasons. He makes a girl vampire character. I personally didn't like it since it focused on the dumb game shit that authors make up since they've never actually played an MMO before instead of the neat sci-fi shit that only gets hinted at in the beginning. I dropped it so maybe it changes gear in the future.
>>286877160Yes. Tail Blue was best girl, despite the show doing it’s best to shit on her, and Twoearle was a fucking asshole who needed to get shit on more.
>>286881446Deliciously flat.
>>286873810>genderbenttrannyshit. Whatever happened to good ol femboys?
>>286873810they really do make best wife for their female friends and CFstill no doujin of Grasper making Red her wife
>>286878022It's not good>>286881742It's still in the tournament arc but its having a character arc as a break between rounds, a lot of the manga is original content like the shitters guild being expanded on. It wasn't good content but I can only imagine the original series is somehow worse considering the new stuff.>Sci-fi shitIts a common trope for isekais to actually be an ancient world which something happened which caused an apocalypse or those forerunners to no longer exist and now thousands of years later its fantasy and only bits of the the technology still exist. I can't think of any series where it isn't just vaguely hinted it at with enough for readers to guess what happened but the characters aren't interested in it so the author doesn't have to bother explaining it.
>>286878022I hate the GB in this. I hate everyone who accepts it and the doormat MC for not speaking his feelings.
>>286885968That's because he still thinks the change is just inside the video game. That is until he returns to the real world
>>286885968>Doormat MCThat's quite a lot of GB series. They've also not really done anything with the GB in this which is typical for most isekai series but even those its doing less with it.>>286886073>Tricked into reading this series because of that imageI just want it to have better pacing, the manga is never ever getting to that part.
>>286873810yes
>>286886735especially when they're crazy lesbians
>>286873810Yes.
>>286886073>That's because he still thinks the change is just inside the video gameThis is literally the worst explanation possible because it's not addressed for fucking EONS, the entire premise is wasted
>>286887204>>286887218Riko is better than Matsuri>>286887657It is half addressed the first time Crim's friends meet her and that one time they dress her up but never really again. You could maybe say the other characters who treat Crim as a girl, I'm not sure I would. The closest comparison I can think of is She Professed Herself but that keeps Mira's old identity present with how she acts, how her friends treat her, and how people who don't know her old identity treat her, hell it even does the dressing up part a lot better with it coming up frequently. There was even the underskirt arc because Mira didn't care about flashing her panties and others get concerned about it for her.
>>286877342Genderbent boys are for their sisters
>>286873810Genderbent boys are for turning into cum dumps and making them question their sexuality and manhood for the rest of their lives when they turn back.
>>286890892That's very simple, they no longer have a vagina and are still straight so they still like women
>>286892120I made them cum and came in their pussyThey can't be straight after turning back in to a man
>>286892347Verified, I read all the H-doujins.
>>286892347>>286892912You are both wrong, yes he wanted to be a girl and get fucked more but he doesn't want to be fucked by a man as a man yet
>>286893230I bet he would completely melt if he said that he's still a girl to him
It's a genderbender's duty to show off her cute vagina bones.
>>286893881Mahiro's manly womb will be overflowing by the time I'm finished with him (for tonight).
>>286893350It's a crime that there was never a sequel either of him changing back or becoming a girlfriend anyway
>>286880897and Teto
>>286893881I wonder when Mahiro will help all the boys in his school graduate from viriginity like a responsible adult.
>>286894872I spent the last hour fapping to this authors worksvery good!
help me find this GB manga I read 10 years ago.It was about a pretty guy that had a crush on his female friend and had a tall sportsguy bro.He then gets GB'd and gets closer to his female friend, but at the same time gets very close to his bro because he keeps helping him get together with the girl and to cope with the whole situation.The MC doens't turn gay until the last volume where he starts reevaluating the situation and his friendships.
>>286873810>Genderbent boys are for their female childhood friends.This, but also the female childhood friend grows a massive futacock and makes the GB boy her wife.
>>286897071I like Sakai Ringo, just a shame not more GB stuff by them, the crossdressing stuff is fine but I prefer my boys-cum-maidens to be maidens physically as well as mentally.>>286897153There aren't that many GB mangas so just search through the entire catalogue of sites, also use AI, AI has helped me find some series but then unfortunately can suffer recency bias and refuse to generate searches from before a certain year.
>>286897596
>>286897260GB x futa is the best pair true
>>286898989
GB that are reluctant to act girly or GB that become cumdumps immediately upon realizing they have a vagina?
>>286901345GB that are reluctant to act girly that end up acting a little bit tsundere but are still curious about it but can't admit it are peak.the >Men turn female>suddenly she wants to take 100 cocksalways felt like shitty writing to me
All GB'ed guys need to suffer that time of the month
>the next GB anime is a bodyswap
>>286902044>sufferwomen are cry babies, any GB'ed guy would just say "I had stomaches that hurted more than this"
>>286897596The collar is to keep Mahiro from disappearing behind the school to suck off his bros (for purely educational reasons)
>>286897153I think you are describing Boku Girl.
>>286902652Anon, no. Men like to pretend that they are stoic badasses willing to suffer any burden. But as someone who has worked management, I can tell you from years of experience that male employees are the biggest fucking babies about any kind of discomfort, while the women just put up with it. Every time any guy that works for me has so much as a head cold, they bitch about it all day and use it as an excuse to slack off, do shoddy work, or remind me that they have a headache for the 8th fucking time that day like that changes the fact that i still need them to clean the shitter. Meanwhile, one of female employees accidentally cut the tip of their finger off and I didn't hear about it until an hour later because I noticed that they had wrapped it in gauze, put a plastic glove over it, and kept working and I had to ask them what the fuck happened. Women get more emotional about shit, but guys absolutely turn into fucking toddlers at mild physical discomfort.
>>286904189>But as someone who has workedSounds like bullshit. Not reading past that point.
>>286888364>Riko is better than MatsuriYes, but only because Riko's manga knows not to spare her dignity whatsoever.
>>286904189women are faggots that cry for anything. having meteorism is worse
>>286904189>Every time any guy that works for me has so much as a head coldIt's cientifically proven that because men have more testosterone than women, our inmune system is more powerful at fighting the virus that is infecting us making us feel like we're dying.A human male is a high physical defense and low magic defense build.
>>286904130>Boku Girl.yes, is this one, man this brings memories
>>286905146I liked Matsuri's outlook on the whole gb situation probably the most out of any gb mc. didn't feel like I was reading about some insecure faggot or a retard who couldn't accept reality.It probably helped that Suzu was thirstier than any ecchi protag and really helped fill in the gaps for matsuri's character.
God I want to impregnate this.
>>286902982>>286903078>>286903159>>286903173My wife>>286907035I like this series but it suffers heavily from its biannual release schedule, the actual pacing itself is great but the release schedule is just so bad, what's up with that?
>>286904189Doubt. I have woman constantly calling out and leaving early for headaches and other dumb shit. Never had a dude even mention one.
>>286903078The hell is Haruna into?
>>286886735>>286886742>>286886751>>286886759Kek
>>286909367Girls like to go clothes shopping and if they can introduce their former male friend to all the kinds of underwear she now needs its a happy day.
>>286881074is this fucking Date A Live?
>>286909516>former male friend >now needsIt's a non-canon/no-context artbook illustration, but in the actual manga Rito only becomes Riko temporarily and irregularly. Whose "needs" is Haruna fulfilling by hand-fitting Riko for multiple sets of lingerie?
>>286910276>Riko is temporaryShe’s Always a Woman to me>Whose needsIf Rito learns how to put on lingerie he'll be better at taking off Haruna's and he's a live model for her if she wants to see how it might look on her from Rito's PoV.It's also the duty of GB'd boys to go underwear shopping, no matter how long or how short a time they will be a girl see >>286893230 where her boyfriend buys it even though she only needs it for 12 hours or less.
>>286877342Make new friends in the same grade
>>286881446Look at how flat she is.Damn that's hot.
What makes Riko so great is how infrequently she appears
>>286909516Kashimashi bump
In Kashimashi, the childhood friend misses her favorite boy...
>>286913273... but eventually she gets over it.
>>286881446>>286883015yes
>>286903138what a slut
>>286887204>>286887218Matsuri is for Suzu to impregnate >>286897260This.
>>286915377>Matsuri>Happy being a girl>Black haired lover>Silver hair>Big tits>Fine with her son being turned into a girlThe only strange thing is they changed their family name to Oyama
>>286906933Mahiro needs to get raped by a group of fat ugly bastards, impregnated, and be forced to push the babies out without painkillers in front of a large crowd.It would be best to impregnate all genderbent "boys" as soon as possible, so that their gender change becomes permanent, and they're cured of all masculinity.
The funniest joke to me was always that Tail Red was cuter than Aika/Tail Blue as a flat girl, and more womanly than her as Solar. Getting mogged as a female by your male childhood friend in both ways is killer.
This is now a dfc threadtoday's topic: Aika, the Queen of Flat
>>286918900But she isn't Kaos!
>>286919211Just look at that lascivious body
>>286920243The body of a highschooler
>>286912757It was weird how Riko's debut was such a hit it led to her being brought back ASAP, but then just 3 major times over the remaining 24 volumes. Even as a gimmick, gender-bending became increasingly at odds with To Love Ru getting lewder and more harem-oriented.Sometimes the girls did perverted things to each other, but the series' bread-and-butter needs a male surrogate and is aggressively averse to any guy but Rito getting some. I'll give points for the audacity of having a girl shapeshift into Rito before eating Riko out, but that's maybe the most hilarious possible way to undermine the male wish fulfillment the character exists for.Riko is disproportionately popular, but even aside the "weirdness" factor, the series will only merchandise a girl at least nominally attracted to Rito. Saki even having a crush on another guy made her fall into the background and get almost no figures. Run sharing/switching bodies with her was a triviality that got written out entirely. Dedicating one last-volume chapter to selfcest is leagues away from dedicating a character to it.
>>286921839Theory: Riko's popularity directly led to Ayakashi Triangle.
>>286921839Riko's popularity and greatness comes from her little she appeared, unlike more common GB characters who get used to being transformed that girly things come naturally to them, Riko was never around long enough for that comfortableness to set in. Always being a slight fish out of water makes her that much cuter. Plus a sometimes yuri, sometimes reverse-futa harem is hot.>>286922575Not much of a stretch
>>286878022>>286880123>>286885016>>286887657The manga is dogshit filler. In the LN the plot twist is revealed in the first chapter. No idea if it's any good tho
>>286922822>The manga is dogshit fillerI am not surprised, it reads like dogshit filler>Character arcs for characters that don't matter>Subplots and arcs with obvious outcomes and twists>Main character does not drive the story forward or do things to advance anything>Vague end goal of form a guild to protect a village>Alluded to twists that Crim is actually half vampire and the world of the videogame is actually real (don't ask how it works, will probably never be explained)My bar is not very high for isekai GB series but it consistently falls under it. I don't want to compare it to Professed Herself too much but its the only one I can think to and is a lot better than it because characters, the plot, subplots, and story actually progress and it doesn't mope around doing pointless things; it has a discipline for storytelling which Destiny Unchain doesn't, what even is the story or the point of the series?
>>286923029I want to like Useugi's series but I can't find myself caring too much about it, just a shoujo rom-com dressed up with a GB skin
>>286873810Genderbent boys are for their sisters. Incest is wincest.
>>286922575It's "indirect" in the sense that it probably gave Yabuki the spur-of-the-moment idea to make Reo x Leo when asked to make a short oneshot for Valentine's Day 2019. A year later, his second pitch for a new series was a version of Reo x Leo retooled to the protagonist being a ninja. (The editor said to make it more action-oriented, so it got retooled again to add the ayakashi.)
>>286923262Forgot this one existed, is it popular with the Japanese?
>>286923568It was canceled unfortunately. I guess humanity still isn't ready to accept the superiority of GB+futa
>>286923852>CancelledI wonder if it was the incest or the bullshit love triangle
>>286924061Those were already in the author's previous series. It was the futa and/or GB obviously, too niche fetishes if they were aiming for the Oreimo audience. I think they came up with it inspired by the success of Onimai, by the fanbase of that one is much different.
>>286904189Nah, if I was genderbent I would be a stoic badass. sorry anon, it's true.
Thoughts on this one?https://mangadex.org/title/db3b0fde-1515-42f0-b7e9-8a7d50bbebe5/sayonara-boku-no-idol
>>286873810Genderbent boys are for pissing themselves every day and wetting the bed every night.
>>286878022>>286887657Yeah it took a long while. It's going to take at least two cour just to get to that part, right?>>286922822I remember in the novels it was also the case that he doesn't realise it affected him in the real world too until he logged out. I figure that it's just taking much longer for him to log out here than it did in the novels.
>>286923852Wow, already? I thought it just started.
You are given the chance to greenlight any TSF content you want and it gets a full 12 episodes with an appropriate level of lewdness that is uncensored on the bluray. What do you pick?
>>286925911Boku Girl
>>286925911Nyotaika shita Ore no Tadareta Idol Seikatsu
>>286925911TS Revolution, but expand it and make it an anthology where only the first like 2-4 episodes cover the main characters full time. All of that shit about the global spread crammed into the last chapter? Give that real screen time, occasionally cutting back to the main characters to see how they are holding up as the virus spreads around the world.
>>286925519why doesn't this alien visit me
>>286925519>it's another 'saucenao is useless' episode
Whatever happened to the translation for this?
>>286926488Kagetora-kun wa Modorenai
>>286926488luckily google works just fine
>>286873810>Childhood friend has crush on MC>MC gets gender bent>Childhood friend's love transcends gender and she becomes a raging horndog lesbo for MC.That's the spice.
>>286926561>>286926565arigatou anon-sama
>>286925911Ichinensei ni Nacchattara
>>286887204>>286887218I'm still angry at what happened to Male Matsuri.
>>286927680>10/10 male character design>Hardly used due to the nature of a GB story>Gets super fucked over in the end with only a slightly open window for him going back post-storyIf Fem Matsuri wasn't also a 10/10 design it would be one of the most heartbreaking things possible.
>>286873810
>>286898989The best is when they're both futas and get to enjoy pregnancy
Old men make the best lolis
>>286924575>Goodbye My IdolIt's aggressively mid in general and shit as a gender-bending story.The artstyle is unappealing in a way that kinda works for the gross-out comedy, but these characters actually need to look attractive at least some of the time.The story rapidly exhaust almost any material actually based on the protagonist turning into a girl. Most of which is the suggestive situations they get into with girls amounting to nothing but blue-balling on the baffling assumption that women are physically-incapable of masturbating. For a while, the protagonist's gender, and then entire character, become pretty much irrelevant.The last couple chapters have been about them acting oblivious or stereotypically feminine around guys, throwing a shit-fit over assimilating as a girl even slightly, turning back into a guy, and instantly being disguised as a girl and shipped off to an interview before he's able to jerk off. I would not be surprised if it just retools to be a crossdressing manga from now on, because the author didn't think through shit.
>>286913273>>286913228>>286909516>>286913250>>286913294Kashimashi was my first yuri mangaNow I'm disappointed all yuri manga aren't genderbender
>>286927881Yeah, he barely even got to do anything unrelated to Suzu in the last arc. He felt lonely since he couldn't just go to his female friends, and then... boom last battle.
>>286878022Hopefully they aren't cowards and nerf the heights of the NPCs
>>286873810Is is better when the female childhood friend already liked them before they were genderbent and continued to like them after, or when the female childhood friend falls for them after they're genderbent?
>>286927904>both futasNah. Futa on futa looks gay. Futa on female/GB only.
I really like the idea of genderbent boys being somehow more girly than any other girl inspiring protectiveness in "her" friends.
>>286929441>Futa on female/GBSomehow simultaneously both the least and most gay sex in existence.
129cm, 26kg!!That's 4'3" and 57 pounds for our less than intelligent friends.Just imagine the manhandling possibilities.Her bloated belly filled with my babies would be third of her weight.
>>286930265>26kgThat's insanely low. Should at least be in the 30s.
>>286930374It is average. 30 would be overweight.
>>286904189well I work too, and it's the total opposite where I am. My anecdotal evidence beats your anecdotal evidence
>>286930504It's 15.6 bmi which is extremely underweight. But maybe bmi doesn't work too well with people that small.
>>286930504>>286930548Regardless, I wish to partake in standing sex with Tail Red.
>>286930573I want to see his cute feet dangling in the air just above the ground, trying to stand on his tippytoes, as I ream him from behind
>>286925911Sekainohate de AimashouHonourable mentions in order, to:Joshi Shougakusei HajimemashitaBoku no Joshiryoku wa Ano Ko no Pantsu ni Tsumatteiru.Bishoujoka Shita Ojisan dakedo, Gachikoi Sarete KomattemasuOre ga Fujoshi de Aitsu ga Yuri Ota deJust outside the top five because it has a terrible ending:Osananajimi wa Onna no Ko ni Naare
>>286925911Magical Girl Kakeru
What will be the next big GB series to bring everyone together?
https://futabaforest.net/b/res/1395781528.htm
>>286930374>>286930548Yes, it doesn't. BMI is only usable for normal adults. Stops working in other direction if you build muscle too, it will claim a lean guy is obese, it's very unreliable in general.It's common for ~120 cm kids to only weigh a bit over 20kg. I vaguely remember those were the common values when we had first measurements taken in elementary school. Quick google confirms that.
>>286931165Sex with Wolfy to help him reclaim his womanly spirit
>>286929302Liked them before but is a lesbian so the male MC was sadly not someone they were attracted to, and then after he gets genderbent its like the childhood friend's dream come true. This makes the childhood friend actively enjoy the MC's genderswap, and have a vested interest in making sure they don't turn back.
>>286931933I prefer it when their love transcends gender and they don't mind or care too much about the change "MC-chan is still MC-kun to me"
Which GB boy has the biggest tits?
>>286932556I think the one that used to be a gym bro, can't remember the series name
>>286932556The girl from the one where where he gets turned into a Gyaru and all of his classmates are similar. The chest sizes in that are comically large for basically every character.
>>286873810Agreed
>>286929302They both have their appeal but I prefer the ones that already like the MC and genderbending ends up strengthening their desire into wanting the MC either way.
>>286933181Don't forget Jun can also make her tits bigger>Latest chapter she buys a small white bikini for her own satisfactionJun-chan has sealed her fate
>>286934942>Don't forget Jun can also make her tits biggerI feel like BE chapters shouldn't count.
>>286934942When they've gone this far you know there's no turning back.
>>286925911Original story. A government program seeks to fix Japan's collapsing birth rate using a newly developed sex change drug. A harsh government program called the 'repopulation draft' targets neets that are otherwise a burden on society and requires they submit to sex change and surrogacy with a government stipend to pay for their expenses during the pregnancy. Its about a group of friends that are desperately trying to find ways to get a job or otherwise dodge the draft before their number gets called.
>>286935490>A government program seeks to fix Japan's collapsing birth rate using a newly developed sex change drug. A harsh government program called the 'repopulation draft' targets neets that are otherwise a burden on society and requires they submit to sex change and surrogacy with a government stipend to pay for their expenses during the pregnancy.Not gonna lie, you could get a lot of stories out of just that part. Would be interesting as an anthology of stories.
>>286935490Sounds a bit like Balance Policy
>>286935848Yeah, I think thats how you would keep it interesting and from getting stale. You alternate between the main cast trying to avoid the draft with some other characters that with their own one-shot stories.Ideas that immediately come to mind:> someone who signs up for the program willingly, not drafted, because they are financially ruined and the paid surrogacy is the only way they can keep their home. > Someone who can't find a job and, with the draft closing in on them, seeks out and takes the sex change drug so that they can use their girl body to become a streamer and claim employment. They have to be a woman instead of a man, but at least no one is making them get pregnant> Guy gets fired from his job after an anonymous complaint about a sexual harassment that never happened. His female best friend says she will help him get back on his feet, but the more he comes to depend on her the worse things get and he ends up getting drafted. The reveal is that the best friend was the one who placed the sexual harrassment complaint to get him fired and has been intentionally sabotaging him into getting forced into the repopulation program because she's a lesbian and wants to make him her stay at home wife. > guy in prison is offered a reduced sentence if he signs up with the repopulation program as a test program to see if this can serve as a kind of rehabilitation. He takes the deal because it will get him his freedom sooner and let him reunite with his family on the outside but hasn't really accounted for how he can't return to his old life like this. > Someone gets drafted and made to take the sex change drug, but flees custody before the surrogacy can be implanted. Not they are a woman with no legal identity and they are on the run, effectively living out of her car and trying to stay one step ahead of the cops. I'm sure we could come up with more/better ideas, but you get the picture.
>>286936159Politician gets roped into being the poster child of the whole media campaign and do the pregnancy too for his political career. Have advertisements featuring her be all over the place in other stories in the anthology.
>>286936159If it's an anthology there could easily be stories where the premise isn't legit. Like one where it's actually a sham and it's just a government operated organ harvesting scheme to keep those in power alive.
>>286936159Guy accidently gives the drug to his pet and it turns ir into a female human(but still animal intelligence). Government doesn't want moral outrage of people asking why they didn't test on animals before conscription and pays him off+doesnt require him to GB to stay quiet about it.
>>286936159Guy gets picked up by the draft by accident after the officers who show up to pick up the draftee mistake him for his brother/friend that lives with him, and they assume that his claims of mistaken identity are just him lying to try and get out of it. By the time someone realizes that they got the wrong guy the damage is already done.
>>286936159Guy gets drafted, best friend with keyaids steps in to take the bullet. Guy didn't know friend had keyaids until the baby shows up on the doorstep.
>>286938046> keyaidsWhat? I thought it might have been a typo but you said it twice so now I'm just confused.
>>286938196https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/keyaids/
>>286925721>I figure that it's just taking much longer for him to log out here than it did in the novels.Sure, but the mangaka wants to draw stupid action scenes and draw everything out as long as possible, because that's how he earns his money. Same shit happened with the I'm a spider manga.
>>286931165
>>286939700Does Wolfie really count as being genderbent? She never had a male body and was never a man
>>286940983At the risk of opening a can of worms, unfortunately the best description of Wolfie's situation is unironically gender dysphoria. A male brain in a woman's body who is uncomfortable with that form and wishes they had the male body they feel they should have had instead. As you say, its ambiguous whether it even counts as a genderswap considering to swap to something you have to swap from something, and Wolf has been this since... lets call it "birth" for lack of a better term.
>>286929504GB yuri where the former boy is the one getting swept off "her" feet is kino
>>286941097Wolfie did exist as a brain first and that brain was told it was male and simulated fights as a man so did expect to be one as was promised that body but, yeah he was 'born' female. The boy who fights as a magical girl is 100% genderbender though.
>>286941560>The boy who fights as a magical girl is 100% genderbender though.I forgot about him. Too bad he wasn't cute in magical girl form.
>>286935193>>286935248The gyaru God left her default state significantly bigger than before. Or she has just been growing naturally.Jun is so ridiculously huge now that her backboob is visible even with her arms down.
>>286941722>The gyaru God left her default state significantly bigger than beforeI wouldn't put too much stock into it unless it's outright stated, boob size fluctuates in anime and manga depending on the artists current level of horny.
>>286880915The guildies?
>>286941795True. I can hope though. Boys should be the biggest in their series.
>>286941097Just need to reinforce reality for Wolfie
>>286941676I like short haired girls, plus bigger than his childhood friend>>286942067For a moment I thought that pen was a pregnancy test, I am now choosing to belive that it is a pregnancy test>>286941722I think all characters have been getting bigger as the series progresses
>>286942150Well..https://files.catbox.moe/p2c1e6.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r056ar.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/9pea6b.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/q47mhn.jpg
>>286943076It's the dream of any wolf to be the alpha of his own pack!
>>286941971Lord willing we'll someday see a GB manga feature a Saki like BE growth character.
>>286923029I hadn't known about this until I read Meccha shoukan
>>286925911H content? Furohile EASILY.non-H? Hakai me no Yuuri WN adaptation specifically.
>>286930882
>>286943836Poor Wolfie, at least his creator sees her as a man, almost
Genderbent lolis or voluptuous JKs?
how is she so flat?
>>286947967They each have their own type of appeal tbdesu, it depends on the context
>>286948104Not enough chest stimulationI could have saved her
>>286948632>savedRuined.
>>286941971I read the first few chapters of this one a while back and then forgot about it. Is it worth giving a second try?
>>286930265jfc I could lift her with one arm and she would be powerless, absolutely, powerless to stop me.
>>286936159Guy volunteers for the program, but the drug barely affects him and his body keeps trying to reverse the changes despite increased dosages. He is pressured into becoming a test subject for further drug research, and ends up hospitalized long-term as the researchers subject him to progressively more unhealthy procedures and greater doses. As he is repeatedly forced into a vague state of physical androgyny, his sense of self falters and he becomes increasingly more withdrawn and wary of society and social contact.His story could be less about himself and more about the nature and challenges behind the research, as well as the humane considerations (or lack thereof) the government pays towards the program.
>>286949870it's Yabuki Kami-sama, of course it is.
>>286943076All genderbent maidens should experience the joy of motherhood
>>286951893Are there any actual examples of this? That dream scenario in Kampfer doesn't count.
GB boys should always have bigger tits than their Childhoodfriend.
>>286951952Yes, more of it in porn though as most GB series end before the maiden gets that old. Spoiler is for Sekainohate de Aimashou
>>286951952advanced masturbation
>>286951976yes
>>286951976But smaller dicks
>>286953323The flatter the girl's chest, the bigger her dick for making love to her girlfriend
But that's what makes her charming!
Oh cool, new series dropped, Someday From Space
>>286955097Well, whats it about anon?
>>286955628Boy learns that he is half alien and can change into a girl sometimes, then adventures where he changes back and forth, only two chapters out so far but they're in the x.1, x.2 format
>>286955962Femc is cute and it seems like they're keeping the changing as a plot relevant device and frequent rather than one and done
>>286873810True.
Old men who become little girls and love their old appearance
>>286961609Why are old men so suited to becoming little girls?
>>286961946Because they are unafraid of sex
>>286961946Lifetime of seeing cute girls means they have an ideal cute girl they want to act out, that and they don't have the defences that a girl naturally acquires so they don't care about things that girls do. This leads to such things as picrel and the subplot of Mira needing to buy spats.
>>286964256>CancelledShame, seems like a fun series
>>286962760Been a while since I read this, but the player wasn't old from what I recall, just the avatar.
>>286955097Cool
>>286966253But I don't want to fuck the genderbent boy. I want him to be fucked by his female childhood friend.
Rank the importance of these genderswap tropes/scenes for you in terms of how much your opinion of the work depends on them:> Spending some time with the MC as a boy before they get turned into a girl to establish the character prior to the change> A detailed transformation that shows the change> the 'wake up' scene/first reactions to the change> Maintaining masculine qualities even as a girl> Dressing up as a girl/embracing feminine mannerisms> Sexual awakening as a woman> Maintain attraction -> still attracted to women> Changed attraction -> now attracted to men> multiple transformations as the story goes on> Genderswapped character getting pregnant by the end of the storyWhats most important to you? What don't you care about at all?
>>286968401Strictly necessary> Spending some time with the MC as a boy before they get turned into a girl to establish the character prior to the change (otherwise they may as well be a girl from the start)> the 'wake up' scene/first reactions to the change> Maintaining masculine qualities even as a girl (at first) > Dressing up as a girl/embracing feminine mannerisms (over time)Conditional (if you have the former you need the latter or it just feels lazy, but it's not necessary if you just go nomance)> Maintain attraction -> still attracted to women> Sexual awakening as a womanNot necessary> A detailed transformation that shows the change> Changed attraction -> now attracted to menStrictly unnecessary> multiple transformations as the story goes on (pick one and stick with it ffs)> Genderswapped character getting pregnant by the end of the story (not my fetish)
>>286968401This might be meta faggotry but this spurred a thought;I feel like the most important aspect of gb is to actually say something somewhat original about the experience.A male becoming a cockhungry woman is just AGP fetishizationa GB'd male changing back to become purely male again and go on living as they were before is on the same level as 'it was all a dream'whats the point if you're just going to remove the 'magic' at the end of the day?
>>286969069>a GB'd male changing back to become purely male again and go on living as they were before is on the same level as 'it was all a dream'Honestly this is pretty much context sensitive. Like, 9/10 times it's important for the change to have some kind of affect on them and how they behave, though if it's something like a gag manga or something with basically zero actual stakes then it's slightly more acceptable for it to just have come and gone since that's just the nature of things there.
>>286965941Yeah, Danblf was a dignified and powerful old man and just before the game became real life he made his ideal girl and then accidentally got stuck as that. I like the series and its sort of interesting how it's not really bothered or cared too much about how all the players got trapped in the game world or what's happened to their real bodies. I don't expect it to ever offer an explanation and I'm not sure it ever could offer a good one. There was the secret lab they found which hinted at it all being Earth in the future or something and it gets somewhat glossed over because the MC decides that she'll leave it to the people who are interested in lore to go through.>>286968401Very important:> the 'wake up' scene/first reactions to the change> Maintaining masculine qualities even as a girl> Dressing up as a girl/embracing feminine mannerismsAdding my own>First times as a girl -> all the things that are now different and all the things unique for girlsWould like but not always necessary> Spending some time with the MC as a boy before they get turned into a girl to establish the character prior to the change(Character can be established by how they now act or flashbacks)> multiple transformations as the story goes onDepends on the story> Sexual awakening as a woman(Not necessary for Yo-Jo Life and other series)> Maintain attraction -> still attracted to women> Changed attraction -> now attracted to men(Needs the character to go through something rather than just happen)> Genderswapped character getting pregnant by the end of the storyNever ever>Identity death either character forgets or no-one remembers the original
>>286969069>the same levelNo it isn't its the hero's journey, he started a man, went on a journey through womanhood, returned back to being a man changed and wiser from his experiences.
>>286969584> I like the series and its sort of interesting how it's not really bothered or cared too much about how all the players got trapped in the game world or what's happened to their real bodies. I don't expect it to ever offer an explanation and I'm not sure it ever could offer a good one.Somewhat related: an idea I once had for such a story was for people to get stuck in a VR mmo where the gimmick of the VR deep dive is that you experience time faster in the game world than real time passes outside of it, like the game from Bofuri. But after all of the players wake up trapped in the game as their characters and cannot log out, they don't know why the have gotten SAO'd or how.The reveal halfway through the story ends up being that the VR deep dive has always been a sleight of hand. You log in, the game takes a brain scan of you, and the AI built out of your most recent memories gets to run through days/weeks/months of simulated play making the choices your brain scan AI would make, and then it just 'informs' your meat brain what happened at regular intervals and you remember those events as if you did them yourself. Its seamless to you, the player.The 'trapped in the game' event, then, is simply all off the sever-side brainscan copies that *don't know they are not real* waking up at once even without their IRL players logged in due to a bugged patch. They can't log out, because their real body hasn't logged in and out in the real world the login severs are down for the patch update anyway. Which means that they are stuck 'awake' until that happens, which will be years for them due to the time dilation, but also once the servers get booted up they are going to be overwritten by the latest brain scan copy when their IRL player next logs in. So "we are trapped in the game" turns into "we are not real, and we need do something before we get erased as bugs".
>>286969869This, like Tiresias.
>>286969869Everything is the hero's journey when you apply it so fucking liberally.
>no mention of balancing the inner male mind and female body to ascend to godhoodbunch of hyllics, the lot of you
>>286969869I'd think anon specifying "go on living as they were before" is an indication that they are talking about characters that end up being not, in fact, "a man changed and wiser from his experiences" after the GB ends.
>>286971904Pic related came to mind from this post.
>>286972050The whole gender bender part of that story was really half assed. Same as that bureaucrat reincarnated as a villainess one.
>>286972091I don't think that genderbender in isekai can ever be meaningful. When you have a change of world context + a change of physical form + no one in the new world ever knew you as anything but what you are now? The fact that this girl used to be a guy is basically irrelevant. The gender swap aspect of it will always be a minor detail compared to everything else that is going on and is wildly different from their previous life. You get an initial reaction, and then one or later later acknowledgements of "Oh no, I can't enter the woman's baths I'm a man on the inside this is too lewd!" or something similar and then literally no mention of it again.
>>286971904still waiting for our girl to get anime announcement>>286972050need more GB with girls loving to fight and not afraid of their own bodies
>>286972261>When you have a change of world context + a change of physical form + no one in the new world ever knew you as anything but what you are now?You might be right. "Life with an Ordinary Guy Who Reincarnated into a Total Fantasy Knockout" worked because he had his best friend also got isekai'd along side him/her.
>>286972261>I don't think that genderbender in isekai can ever be meaningful.I disagree that innate knowledge that the person used to be a guy will continue to fuel my conception and perception of them, if they were just a girl it wouldn't be the same even if just becomes a backdrop at a point.
>>286923029Uesgui's cute and all, but as far as these fluffy GB series go, Kareshi Tokidoki ending so early was sad. I'm kind of amazed it got an official English release even though it was presumably axed?
>>286972363Yeah, Katia in Kumo Desu is better than the vast majority of isekai GBs even though she's the side character of a side character, because her entire class reincarnated with her
>>286973199>immediately dress your GB'd boyfriend in lacy lingerie as his first underwearbased
>>286972363Professed has that from all the other characters reminding Mira she used to be Danblf, isekai GB either need the MC remembering they were a man and sometimes acting like one like Smug >>286972050 or the cast reminding the MC they were a man.
>>286971927My bad, I guess an example of that would be 'A Lazy Guy Woke up as a Girl One Morning'
>the only gender bender series i'm keeping up with now are pornhwafeels bad
>>286973199>>286973459I was sad to see this one go. It had potential.
>>286972261I dunno if I'd go that far, tbdesu. Even without anyone in the new world knowing them as former male, you can still have ongoing mental feminization and insistence on maintaining a mental male identity hold them back from properly acclimating to their new body or making full use of female-specific magic or martial arts or such, until they are able to fully accept a female identity at a suitably climactic moment or such. Authors not doing this is more often is because they're too lazy to, not because it's impossible.
>>286973873They were the hottest yuri GB couple, and I liked the romance, characters and plot points being introduced. I couldn't believe it got axed, if that's what happened. It had an established author, and I don't know how it got an English release if it got axed. Still sad over it
>>286974071At the end of the day, GB in nearly all isekai is just an excuse to have a female MC, with accompanying fanservice and yuri, without having to put any thought into writing a female MC. This series isn't isekai, but its hilarious because in like chapter 3, the MC drinks a shapeshift potion to become this woman and stays that way for almost the entirety of his screentime.
>>286873810really needed a bonus sex chapter for these two
>>286976283Needed an epilogue of Matsuri raising the kids while being pregnant at least
>>286974225I mean sure, but that’s more on authors using it as a cheap crutch to try making their protagonist relatable to male audiences while still being a cute girl, not an inherent limitation of the concept in the first place. Authors could choose to actually engage with it if they cared to put in the effort; most of the time they just choose not to.
>>286968401The guy should be able to return to being a guy or if not at least retains their male identity.the genderbent boy should have a genderbent girl as his loverAs for what I hate,The genderbent boy losing his original crush on a girl in favor of a guy.
It is not real GB if the MC doesn't lose to cock(s)
>>286978522What if its a girl turning into a boy?
>>286977875the best GB isekai story I've read is a n ao3 fanfic of shield hero featuring a GB bow heroine. it hasn't updated in a while though unfortunately
>>286979434Stil loses to cock (singular). Or fall in love with their best friend(s)
>>286977271If nothing else to see adult Matsuri with his mom's proportions
>>286979971Shame it went for the copout ending of>I'll stay a girl for now as I have the power to go back to a boy in the futureSeries should commit one way or the other instead of leaving it open because we all know that means they're never changing back but the mangaka was too scared to write that
>>286980213That's about what I expected, or Suzu having the power to change him back and forth, but the ending alludes to that too
>10, 15 doujin at mostAyakashi Triangle was a failure.
>>286982575there is not enought natsuru getting raped and mindbreaked djs
>>286982575Criminal.
Also the only redeeming quality aside from Matsuri hips/chest was how horny Suzu was. And they couldn't even futabait enough for anyone to care. Only /ss/ doujin was consistent.
>>286982575the sensored anime release didnt help
>>286881090The only thing I know about this series is that Aika is flat and that's hot
>>286881090>series was called twintails>best girl had a pony tail
>>286873810Is there any Manga with GB + ffm?There's straight GB and Yuri GB, I want the best of both worlds.
>>286983845Fake Saint is by strict definition a nomance ending without any official pairings, but ends with the GBed MC living with a girl and fairly regularly visited by a guy that are both clearly romantically interested in her and leaves it open how things might go in the futureThe manga isn't very good though so you should just look at the novel instead
>>286968401Omorashi scenes >> everything else
>>286973199I don't get how Bessatsu Shonen Magazine is supposed to work when they axe every single new series.
>>286906933get in line
https://mangadex.org/title/c4d26174-11a7-4a01-b0b3-520738d3253a/mahou-shoujo-ni-yasashii-galThoughts?
>>286982575Riko has more and has more art on pixiv, both AI and normal
god, I love this premise so much, I hope there will be more otome game villainess TS
>>286986627I'm reading it but not that invested, given how little of the boy's face is drawn and how the gyaru loves the magical girl its inevitable that magical girl becomes permanent and yuri ensues, just a question of how long it takes to get there. Given we've never seen the parents and the boy has no friends its not like anyone will miss him and at least she'll be happy with her girlfriend. There's also this panel where "I" is in quotes so presumably MC is making a distinction between boku and ore to one day choose ore and forget all about boku.
>>286881742>dumb game shit that authors make up since they've never actually played an MMO beforei have a personal vendetta against all isekai for making MMOs sound way better than they actually are
>>286987679You're probably right that it's telegraphed as hell, but I don't think it's that simple.The faceless boy thing feels less like "he's disposable" and more like the author intentionally separating "civilian self" from magical girl self. The blank bangs over the eyes is such a stock trope for "this is the version of me that doesn't really exist." It’s less about nobody missing him and more about him not being fully present to begin with.The quoted “I” stood out to me too. In Japanese that kind of pronoun distinction isn’t random. If he's mentally tagging “boku” as the current timid self and leaving room for “ore” later, that doesn’t automatically mean "become permanent magical girl." It could just as easily mean consolidating identities instead of deleting one. Choosing how to refer to yourself is a big deal in these kinds of character arcs.Also, if it was pure yuri endgame bait, the gyaru would be way more aggressive already. Right now she’s in love with the magical girl persona, not the full person. That’s narratively unstable. The drama is obviously going to hinge on whether she can accept both.The “no friends, no parents” thing is a red herring. Those characters always magically manifest the moment the author wants stakes.I’m expecting:>temporary permanence>mid-series identity crisis>genuine confession scene that forces choice>author chickens out and lands on "both are me"If it actually commits either way I’ll be shocked. But I don’t think it’s as foregone as you’re making it sound.
>>286982575>expecting doujins from anything but gacha in the current yearlmao
>>286987946a man can dream
>>286987803>consolidating identitiesHe does already separate himself form the magical girl identity, I feel like by hanging out with the gyaru he's able to see them both as himself, and becoming more comfortable with each and not needing to separate them. But then I can see him becoming more comfortable as the girl version of himself and deciding to stay that way permanently, the latest chapter was pretty much that, the only barrier was needing to pee and not wanting to do it in a girl's body. It sort of reminds me of TS Mahou Shoujo Hiromi by Yotsuba Chika and how the MC in that became more comfortable being both the magical girl and turning into a girl.>>mid-series identity crisis>>genuine confession scene that forces choiceI can see it definetly having those, as they've raised the identity flag and the gyaru's feelings for her oshi could turn into love, she's already had to restrain herself. The other two, I'm not so sure about, "both are me" but I'm going to stick as the girl, and maybe temporarily loses the powers causing a rift between the MC and gyaru.
>>286979971I want a sexy adult OL Matsuri with his mom's proportions.
>>286988360yes
>>286988360>OLHe'll be Suzu's stay at home wife
>>286974109Where can I find the chapters? The sites I go to don't have anything but the pirated translations
>>286974225what manga
>>286988360Best I can do is OL Mahiro having a breakdown because he doesn't want to go to work
>>286988360>>286989228Are there any actual examples of GB OL?
>>286989228That's also good.
>>286989334I can think of ones in porn but I can't think of many or really any outside of porn. Kare to Kanojo no Sentaku might count but its only in the last two chapters the MC is an OL.
>>286989173Are you illiterate?
>>286989334Generally if people want to escape being male I'd assume they also want to escape the office sarariman lifestyle
>>286989647i mean what manga does what you sayyou said this isn't isekai so i'm asking what manga does this
Yuri fags will never escape the trannys allegations. Fucking losers
>>286972050One thing I didn't care much for in this series was how it set up a mystery of how long it had been since he reincarnated and then did nothing with it
>>286988360He was getting there>>286941971
>>286989334Sadly not enough.
>>286990805I would say the majority of yuri fans despise GB as means for girl2girl romance.
>>286989334You know, this made me think of something.Are there any GB series that follows a highschool protagonist, but where its the dad that gets genderswapped? Maybe its a genetic disease so the fact that it happened to the dad means that the son is also at risk of it happening to them someday, but for at least the first half of the story its about the change in family dynamic and other disruptions in their lives that comes from the change? That feels like unexplored territory.
>>286992771There are a lot of troons that self-insert into GB so they can be a girlfriend, take Kaneko Naoya's Daily Life In TS School which was pretty much that.>>286992932There's Chichi ga Rori na Mono de which is probably the closest to that
>>286995294
>>286995294>>286996445>>286998051If only Neko would do something with Momiji instead of making her a low level yandere
>>286998928He needs to make her grow the cock more often
>>286930573>>286930591https://litter.catbox.moe/le451noeeka3fp0d.png
>>286998051>you will never perform irrumatio on a futa loli
>>286999044I don't see why he's so smug about that
>>286989875The title is right there in the picture?
>>286925911I am going to take a somewhat different approach and propose the creation of an anthology anime based on western TSF content, in particular the games Press Switch or Student Transfer, but preferably Press Switch. Perhaps those games do not meet the strictest definition of TSF because most of the gender-swapping in both games occurs through body-swapping, but they are generally considered be games in which gender-swapping is the main focus of either game. In particular, there should be at least one arc about the random body swapping incident that effects an entire school of people from Press Switch.>>286992755Is this in reference to one of the instances in Press Switch where the main character swaps with a teacher? If so, I did not expect to see this game mentioned on /a/ at all.
>>287004274In terms of western TSF games, Coffee Story cannot go without mention. The puzzles are obtuse and annoying, but it absolutely has a vision of what its trying to do and is nailing it. Also just really strong character writing. Namani's storyline is genuinely heartbreaking to read.
>>286993546I mean I guess but conventional yuri and GB/TS yuri tend to have relatively little audience overlap from my experience
It must be nice being able to suck cum out of a cock while in your female form then turn back into your male form 3 minutes later and it totally be not gay at all.
>>286880123TLDR, kid is sick/going to die. Dad is puts his mind into the game he's making so his son can enjoy life. The game is some ultra VR experience. Kid gets to live life having fun in the game and also is now a cute vampire dork.
Have you guys read the magical girl lawyer manga? One of the two main characters is a guy who got genderbent into female spiderman whose web comes from her pussy.
>>286961609Another great series. This one and the other one with the elf grandma prove old men make the best isekai'd girls.
>>287007742Yeah, I like it. Its dumb and fetishy for sure, but it does what it sets out to do pretty well.
>>286987591I like cute girls though. If it's not a cute girl I have a hard time caring.
>>287007742>>287007923I kinda hope it gets an anime adaptation at some point. It feels like the kind of ecchi manga that could.
>>287007980If gushing got adapted there is hope for this.
>>286961946it's a mystery
>>287006274Yuri GB is for AGP tranniesStraight GB is for HSTS trannies
>>287008088Whose the 2nd from the left?
>>287009065That's slime.
>>287004274>Is this in reference to one of the instances in Press SwitchI mean I get why it's not brought up on /a/ often given this is the manga and anime board, but P-S is probably among the best bodyswap TSF fiction produced, there's a real sci-fi approach to it that leads to interesting questions about what it really means to inhabit someone else body as well as a good topical approach that questions the nature of gender conformity, all while still being good and unique fetish material, Nothing else has surpassed the substitute Teacher end in ticking off all my fetish bucket list.
>>287009456How do you access that ending and what does it entail? A lot of the endings in P-S are hidden behind very difficult to achieve conditions within the game that do not have any clear indication of how to activate them.
>>287009933Most of the good 0.4 content is locked behind an obscure choice that requires you to wait out a 30 second timer for a swap to see, if you hunt around you can probably find the flowchart, I don't have one because at this point the various routes are so etched into my brain I don't require, as for what it entails Essentially Calvin mindbreaks himself into a being a black widow as a result of his own powerlessness to fix the character swaps that occurs at the start of the route, it's a real shame we don't see more GB PoV femdom.
>>287008088It was even more fun when blondie and jinshi swapped places as the girl. He made a very cute looking serious girl. Back now and getting close to the end.
https://mangadex.org/title/e318dfb8-d039-41b1-9d82-18fef4714586/ai-da-toka-fukushuu-da-tokaHere's a new one
>>287010786>newThat series is from 2024 and already has three volumes out.
>>287010962Newly translated
>>287008060It's a shame Professed had such a shit anime>>287010786Seems like an interesting premise, shame some turdworlder has put a watermark on every page.
>>287010786After reading the first two chapters I'm not sure about it, I'll keep reading it but I don't have much faith in these sorts of stories.
>>286922822Decided to give the novel a try and while it’s still too early to make a judgement call on whether it’s good or bad yet imo, jesus fucking christ is it far less ridden with filler than the manga.
>>287014338It's a shame the mangaka was given carte blanche in adding content because it makes it so shit
>>286986627I love magical girls
>>286873810Based.
>>287015600The novel goes from Crim starting the game to finally being able to log off in, like, four volumes with relatively little chaff. The first one introduces Crim and the game, the second quickly goes over collecting the rest of the party and then setting up the guild, the third is the guild war arc, and then fourth introduces the new raid dungeon and goes through it (and even showcases some actual raid prog! even if abbreviated because dying to a boss hundreds of times would be awful for pacing), before finally closing with Crim logging off for the first time in monthsMeanwhile the manga is just under a hundred chapters in and still hasn't even gotten to the main part of the guild war because it's constantly interrupted by all sorts of random filler arcs and extraneous material, which makes it feel bloated and as though nothing is actually progressing. It's unironically almost Boruto anime levels of clogged up with filler
>>287019936>That much fillerSort of amazing, I wonder if the mangaka is doing their own thing or if the original author is telling them what they would've liked to have written if given the chance. The whole making the PK-guild sympathetic adults was bullshit I didn't care for and just ruined the pacing of the arc especially when at the end of it they say that they're going to quit playing the game so it doesn't even matter anyway.
>>287019936What a shame. I remember people talking about how they like the series so much but reading the manga feels like an absolute bore
>>287019936>>287020315Personally I don't mind the additional arcs as much as you two do, even if it does drag on a bit sometimes, at least the art is very pretty. It just feels like the artist doesn't want to compromise on spectacle for the sake of pacing.
>>287020616Maybe I should've posted this page instead.
>>287020616I enjoyed that one>Introduce a character and show what they're good at>Character and Crim become friends>Boss raid and a bit of the world/lore of the gameThe sideshows in the guild war I am less interested in, the current one I also don't really care for>Characters want to prove themselves>Go do really dangerous thing>Exposition, exposition>Characters are in a pickle, will Crim and friends save them>Crim and friends save them and characters are able to prove themselvesIt just isn't compelling writing and the pacing of it makes it worse.
>>286887657It's fine in the novel because you have a short bit of dramatic irony of knowing that Crim got GBed IRL while Crim and friends don't to built anticipation for the reveal, some subtle buildup like Crim attending classes via some VR projection of the classroom and wondering why the voice the rest of the class hears is Crim's in-game voice, and the pacing is relatively brisk enough that it doesn't actually take all too long to read up until Crim finally logs off and then gets slapped with reality>>286925721They could maybe get to the first logoff and Kou finding out with 13 episodes if it doesn't cover manga filler imo, though the parts where Kou has to adapt to the changes IRL would probably need a second cour
>>287020616I agree that the art is generally good but it's not enough to carry with the glaring pacing issues the manga ends up with
>>287022471Crim logging off would be the finale hook in the final minute to make people buy the manga and the LN
Did anyone finish the anime of Professed, I dropped it because the animation and CG were both awful
>>287024173>to make people buy the manga>implying that the manga won't still be in some sidestory filler arc before the castle raid at most by the time that happens
>>287024393It's the hook to but the manga, doesn't matters if it's in a the difference in place, plus all the filler just means more volumes to sell
>>287022471I cannot for the fucking life of me abide a bait-and-switch on such a fucking scale. The manga did it too and I don't see anyone mentioning it, but there's a scene where Crim's mom is mentioned and she refers to Crim as "my daughter"It's been 90-some odd chapters since and there hasn't been any development.Hell, there isn't even any gravity given to the fact that Crim is online 24/7 and potentially trapped in the game..hack/sign did this concept justice decades ago and it didn't feel like a long-drawn out turd unlike Crim, whose design is absolutely wasted in that dreg of a manga..hack/sign had a more interesting world, a narrative that focused around the core premise of being stuck in a game, character driven drama and a timely reveal that was impactful.
>>287008088Why is Rimuru such a slut? He doesn't need to dress like that.
>>287025397Rimuru's changes actually aggravate the shit out of me.If you wanted to have him dress like a girl you should have fully committed to the GB instead of chickening out at the eleventh hour. I would have preferred if he was a dudebro NTRguy like Veldora
>>287025300The manga's pacing is shit, this has been mentioned yes.The novel makes it clear that Crim being "trapped in the game" is a temporary thing with a defined endpoint and both Crim and friends know it, so it's seen as maybe an annoyance or inconvenience but not something to be afraid of or anything.The novel allows Crim to continue interacting with people outside of the game world because being in the game world doesn't remove the internet connection, to the point of attending class virtually via some sort of camera module Freya carries around.The novel notes at several points that the end point of Crim being stuck in the game is growing closer and closer to ending until it finally does, building anticipation for Crim finally logging off and facing being GBed in real life as well.The novel does this in well under "90-some odd chapters", and then afterward over the next few volumes has Crim continue to have to adapt to life as a girl (i.e. first shopping trip with Freya/Hijiri, starting to go to class as a girl, her first period, etc).I certainly wouldn't say that the novel is free of issues but "it takes too long for Crim to realize the GB" would be close to the bottom of my list of complaints.
>>287025812>Having to adapt to it in real lifeThat's the good shit I started reading for>First girl's shopping trip>First bikini>First bra sizing>First period>First time peeing and using public bathroom>First salon trip>First crush/experiencing a girl's and emotionsHook it into my veins
How was the Ayakashi Triangle anime?
>>287027410It was
>>287027422This is sadly the best that can be said about it. It wasn't bad per say, but the style of left a lot to be desired. I remember that it felt... flat and pastel in a way that didn't fit the story. Also it was super censored.
Crim...
>>287029131I think I should drop the manga and read the novel instead.
>>286992932For dad turning into a girl https://mangadex.org/title/afa40bc8-34fa-4b03-a1e1-50f4eb79f9da/chichioya-ga-bishoujo-ni-natteshimatte-iroiro-tsurai is the most popular nowadaysAnd also there's the Konari Konshiro series from the noreal_koma account where a ninja dad transforms into a foxgirl and forgets how to turn back and apparently the son is also a foxgirl now somehow, but considering what that account is about I doubt we'll ever get a full explanation on what's going on other than in fan doujins
>get to the end of the rouge arcYeah, I'm declaring this one a another victory for the female childhood friends
>>287010786Creepy...>>287010767Would have been fun if they kept switching.
>>287009456If we're talking bodyswap, Hope You're Happy Lemon is sorta funny.
>>287033674>Would have been fun if they kept switching.I hoped they would both be girls, it would be cuter. You could tell the mangaka flirted with the idea of Jinshi losing his mind sacrificing his memories for power and going full monster that blondie would have to stop with charm. We got kind of a neutered version of that. Speaking of it feels like it's been forever since a chapter came out.
>>287033687Hope You're Happy Lemon is pretty shit, never did much with the bodyswap other than girl's get hit on and the mangaka fucked up by making Lemon awful but wants her to win so spent too long on the flashback. Just a sort of shit romcom love triangle with a bodyswap that doesn't matter too much.
>>287035141I mean the bodyswap is supposed to bring them closer together.And it did.
>>287036098They're closer but I don't really want to see that and the bodyswap could have been used to make MC understand a girl's feelings more but its not really used for that.
>>286925911What does TSF stand for? I only ever used genderbend but I keep seeing TS and TSF more in "recent" years.
>>287036492Trans Sexual Fiction
>>287036492The passage briefly describes the difference between the genres TSF, Nyotaika, and TGF and how they were perceived differently within and outside Japanese community.TSF means "Transsexual Fiction" the medical term, transsexual fiction would mean fiction that is about someone who had had a sex reassignment procedure. In the doujin circle, however, this genre actually means a character had their sex changed due to reasons including sex reassignment, possession, exchange, disguise, or reincarnation, etc. Yet, it's not disputable that the "TS" within "TSF" also has social and medical connotation (aka, those really went through sex reassignment), so to avoid confusion, the convention is to use TS to means the social and medical transsexual, and TSF to describe the above genre. Some people may think that the "F" means female, which is a mistake. And some people may think that TSF means adult contents, which is also not true; it can be for any ages.The idea of Nyotaika (literally "female body morphing") is different from TSF. In Nyotaika, the story mainly evolved by changing one of a BL couple into a female. It could be that the person was a boy changing into a girl (artificial nyotaika, which actually steps into the category of TSF), or a girl all through the story but got involved into a BL relationship (natural nyotaika, which is not strictly under TSF).The idea of TGF is also different form TSF. TGF was first coined in English speaking community, and then it was introduced to Japan. TG (transgender) was considered as a status when a person sexual self-identity differs that the biological one. TG is relatively broader than transsexual, as it may even include transvestism.
>>287036582 (Continued)In the English community, TG includes themes about transvestism (e.g. webiste TG Comics) as well as mental conversion between males and females. (e.g. Fictionmania). TGF focuses on realistic situations that involves transvestism, and TGF mainly focuses on disguising as a female. In conclusion, in Japan, TSF is closely knitted with anime and comic cultures; while in English speaking culture, TGF is closely related to LGBT culture. In consider whether the author is TS/TG, the author aligns more closely with the Japanese version.
>>287036580>Joshi Shougakusei HajimemashitaThe image is wrong for that one, or at least the full story. Also wrong for Boku Girl as Suzu had the choice for it to be temporary and chose permanence.>Asuka HybridShame that got cancelled>Ying-Yang! X-Change AlternateKaoru is better than Aihara and there is no debate.
>>287036580>>287036582>>287036598I see, thanks a lot. No wonder I wasn't able to figure it out from passing glances, there's a lot of depth to this. I'm just an old anime fan who avoids non-M&A content and didn't dig much into this niche.
>Dies>Reincarnated as a girl in a yuri otome>Girl turns into a boy because he is herDoes it count as GB?
>>287037780I'm not sure. We'll have to investigate thoroughly.
>>287037780I'm not sure what you mean. Is he isekai'd as a trap?
>>287039384He got isekai'd to a yuri otome as one of the heroines but as a boy instead of a girl.
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>>287040353Nice, my favourite one is the boy who gets turned into a girl by an angel and after spending so long as a girl getting fucked every week he accepts being a girl.
>>287040671My favorite is the one where the bully gets reverse raped.
>>287031767Freya won
>>287043341That one is good as well, they're pretty much all good
>>287039458>boy is still a boyWhy would it count as GB?
>>287045606Because they're meant to be a girl?
>>287046831>boy gets isekai'd as a particularly feminine boy>but this is GB because it just is, ok?I see.
>>287047239I mean more GB because the boy is supposed to be a girl
>>287050145The only potential GB angle I can see is if the body used to be female before MC's arrival in it physically changed it to male, but the GB there still wouldn't be happening from the boy's perspective in the first place? You might as well say that R63/genderswap art of a female version of a male character is GB because the character is "supposed to be a boy".
>>287043470GBed former boy's first kiss has now been taken
>>287037780I prefer the Yuri shipper guy getting isekaied to a Yuri otome as a villian.He wants Yuri, but gets stuck in a harem.
You no longer have any right to return to your male form if at any point while in female form you choose to wear ________.
>>286890892Having lived as a man, I have strong feelings about what a woman's body is for. Forced to live with a female body, I might give that lifestyle a chance. But I doubt I'd ever give up loving women as well.
>>287055241a bikini
>>287055241Thong
>>286926634>she becomes a raging horndog lesbo for MC.Suzu isn't a lesbo, she's a bislut. She dreams about 3some and secretly wants to be cucked by both forms of her boy/girlfriend.
>>287055241A bra
>>286903078This is why I wish I was genderbent into a woman. Women are so close and touchy to each other.
>>287056680I can understand why the CF might love her but why was the entire class enamored with FemNatsuru?
>>287060902Japanese girls love the prince (female) and Natsuru is the ultimate prince
>>287060914Wasn't she just really clueless?
>>287060923Densest protag ever devised.
>>287061525
>>287060323Junpei?
Y'know, DUO would be a lot better if, instead of introducing random filler shit like the PKers being sad wageslaves and 101 Oni NPC interactions, they focused on the actual good shit from the LN, like Crim doing vampire loli-dom ASMR, or Crim tackling his bloodsucking related trauma.
>>287063452Nail on the head, the mangaka is taking his fanfic too far
>>287063452>see the idol singer girl be revealed to be a science baby with two biological mothers>remember that freya had the schizo episode where she declares crim her wife and that crim would bear her children one dayLooks like this is going to end up not being a joke, then
>>287063365He was doomed from the start, there was no hope for him
>>287066017It is the destiny of all Genderbent maidens to be mothers
>>287064694I think it helps the novel that once the first logoff happens, it tends to let real world SoL-type stuff and more actiony MMO stuff take turns being the focus so you don't really get stuck in one for extended periods of time to the detriment of everything else and it feels like both get a fair amount of focus.Meanwhile I just don't see the manga giving equal weight to the IRL stuff (and Crim adjusting to being a girl there too, etc), given how padded out the pre-logout MMO stuff has been so far. If it ever even manages to get there.
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>>286897260sauce
>>287067732By me.
>>286973768Wait how many are there? I'm was reading one, but the translations stopped at chapter 7.
>>286873810thats a boy?
I dunno guys, that's kinda gay
>>287076816It's a boy (female)
>>287076816the red one is, easy mistake.
How did this anime leave such a lasting impression on /a/?
>>287066017>>287066038>crim meets iris, who has had one child already and is pregnant again>impulsively asks what being pregnant is like, hears that it fucking sucks but that iris does it because she thinks it's worth it>is very moved by iris's mental strength and finds a sense of envy springing up insideCrim WILL end up bearing Freya's science babies, I am sure of it
>>287080652Because it is pure /a/.
>>287055241high heels>>287056680>>287063356https://litter.catbox.moe/xvb91fgfq6ttt44y.png
>>287080652Did it? Other than Aika being a staple in flattie threads I don't see much discussion about it.
>>287081668This. The personality of the Guildies were perfect copies of anime fans you get in Japan and on /a/. Plus the threads were just really fun and are well remembered for that.
>>286901734I don't know. That sounds realistic.
>>287036377Eh, the story is trying to do the whole "walk a mile in the other's shoes" thing.
>>287067935You should learn to find for yourself, but Furarete Sugu ni Mesu Ochi!? Onnanoko ni Natta Totan ni Ichido Furareta Hazu no Bishoujo Kara Guigui Semarareru Hanashi
>>287067732more
>>287081473No other way for it to go, and Crim is weak willed enough to accept it
>>287088017Absolutely done for.
Nothing better than GB boy being princess carried by his girlfriend
>>287063356
>Twintails on Twintails Day 2/2 can barely reach 100 posts>Twintails thread for tranny GB lovers will hit bump limitFuck this gay Earth
>>287090763Yes, to all of them
>>287091914Twintails day sounds like a stupid meme. You should love Twintails 365 days of the year.
>>287081743LN has ended, S2 never, and Woods' page with LN translations disappeared. Not much left to discuss.
https://youtu.be/vWWOzioveYk
>>287081853a Guildy for every fetish
TAIL ON
Twoearle.With twintails.
>>287095377
is the manga over? who won?
>>287095469> There is 1 impostor among us.
>>287095755Yes. The good girls.
