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15 years later, what do you think of Steins;Gate? Do you still consider it to be an anime classic?
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>>287065953
It's still a top 3 anime of all time
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>>287065953
I didn't watch it cause I'm a hyper contrarian. I still refuse to watch it. Reddit anime as far as I'm concerned.
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It's good
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>>287065953
>best main character
>best lead girl
>best ending
It's bretty good.
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>>287065953
I didn't care for it
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>>287065953
It's one of the best anime of the 2010s.
I will instantly view someone as a lesser being and disregard all of their takes if they either say they hated the first half of the anime or Okabe as protagonist.
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>>287065953
Its good, but mostly because it encapsulates so much of what that time period was like for anime fans, before the Death of the Otaku™ (I am working on a theory about this)
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Okabe is a based ota and that's all it needs for me
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>>287065953
>Do you still consider it to be an anime classic?
I never considered S;G to be a classic.
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>>287065953
The show is good but overrated a lot by fans.
>Do you still consider it to be an anime classic
I'm not sure. I don't think it has the staying power of real classics like Ghost in the Shell or Ghibli movies.
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>>287065953
Great show with a 10/10 ending. The ending is so perfect, that I never felt the urge to watch S;G0.
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>>287065953
>2011 was 15 years ago...
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>>287066183
>I never felt the urge to watch S;G0
Good because it's pretty shit.
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>>287065953
Its an 2010's classic, its definitely better than a lot of anime in that age, i dont know if that makes it one of the best of all time but it definitely deserves some praise at least.
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>>287065953
Average at best story that people continue to circlejerk years later for some reason that I'm not able to understand.
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>>287065953
>not enough screen time
>still one of the best girls ever
How
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I miss the VN adaptation era.
2006-2014 truly was the peak of the anime medium.
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>>287066277
I would've gave it more of a chance if the black haired girl had become the guy's GF at the end instead of the annoying brunette.
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>>287066277
its really good. is true that the fanbase is annoying as shit but i prefer people circlejerking this than flawed slop like shingeki or one piece. Its also true the characters arent very good, but the show does what it needs to, and even so, its undoubtedly the best time-travel show ever
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>>287066316
>Can't even get Kurisu's hair color right
Why are the haters always so stupid?
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>>287066399
I barely remember anything about it other than the girl I liked didn't win so I don't give a fuck about it.
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>>287066316
Who is the black hair girl, mayuri?
Why would they be together, they are more friends or a sibling like relationship.
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Suzuha's ass.
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>>287065953
It's good, but the series is ruined because of S;G 0 and everything that came after.
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>>287066454
>sibling like relationship
I don't see a problem with them moving forward with something more intimate.
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>>287065953
The only character that I like at all was Luka. Everyone else was an insufferable faggot. Honestly I didn't enjoy this show at all.
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>>287066513
Maybe that would have happened if kurisu didn't show up.
But she's there now so, it didn't happen.
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>>287066399
Not that anon, but it's kind of chestnut brown in the visual novel?
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>>287066478
You can just not look at anything after the original if it bothers you that much.
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>>287066549
Zoomer detected
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>>287066462
Best girl detected
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>>287065953
It's popular
I hate it
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>>287066697
braindead post
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>>287065953
It's a good show. Terrible fanbase though, seriously.
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>>287066115
It came out around the peak of anime (early 2010s) so I think it's remembered for that
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Okabe and Kurisu still have one of the only 'relationships' that I enjoy watching in anime.
There are some elements of holo/lawrence that are at least close but not as good imo.
I'm also just a sucker for time loops and the protagonists in a relatively unserious medium or story coming to realize how serious the implications of what they're doing are. And episode 9 is like a 10/10 in that. It's like they picked the ED specifically so they could play it over the ending scene of that episode and then just used it for all the episodes. And as an aside the standard OP/ED playing as the soundtrack over a scene instead of the actual OP/ED animation is also a very good trope.
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>>287065953
>anime classic
It's not a good enough anime to deserve that title. S;G overall is okay but mediocre as a time travel story. I think I would've forgotten about it by now if people didn't keep calling it the best anime ever over and over.
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>>287065953
I refuse to finish any slowslop where the fans' default phrase is "TRUST ME BRO IT GETS GOOD AFTER EPISODE (x)"
I'll give it the 3 episode treatment, that's it
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>>287066967
S;G is already good within 3 episodes. If you don't get it you unironically got filtered like the average normalfag does.
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>>287065953
Reddit series
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>>287067070
All they do is microwave bananas and do slice of life for like 5 episodes, nevermind 3. You just thought the tuturu girl was cute which released small amounts of sexo chemicals in your brain while watching, causing you to conflate that with rest of the show being good.
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>>287065953
It's the best anime of all time.
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>>287067070
S;G doesn't get good until the last 1-2 episodes and then it's immediately over.
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>>287067453
>All they do is microwave bananas and do slice of life
Yes, and?
>You just thought the tuturu girl was cute which released small amounts of sexo chemicals in your brain
Yes, and?
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>>287067453
I mean some people find that fun the kinds who built computers and go to akiba and shit, which is like half the audience of this.
Also part of the appeal is them slowly discovering the Cern conspiracy.
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>>287067895
The Cern conspiracy has no real depth to it, it's just muh dystopia over and over again. Cern itself barely shows up or gets explained and they don't really do anything interesting.
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>>287066697
/a/non-san...
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Them creating the microwave machine is unironically the funniest part
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>>287066697
This but unironically
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>>287067895
In that case it's a hybrid that is too slow to be a good mystery thriller, and has too many male characters to be a good CGDCT SoL.
I liked K-On (no males) and Death Note (not slow), for reference.
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>>287065953
It's shit.
I will instantly view someone as a lesser being and disregard all of their takes if they either say it's good or Okabe is a good protagonist and not just a stand-in for the main character of the VN. Madoka is a better time travel story from the same year.
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I hated it but loved it at the same time, it's hard to explain I was in college at the time and binged every episode in a day with my then gf.... I like the plot but don't like the characters
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>>287068141
You got half filtered?
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>>287067973
It's part of a larger series, retarded newfag.
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>>287068094
>Knows mayuri since kids, and saved her by doing the hostage thing
>Has one of the only not harem romances in vn, and it's actually pretty good
>His arc is very human by fucking up with time and having to fix his own mistakes
For being a vn protagonist Okabe actually has a lot of depth and feels kinda real.
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>>287068141
I think the plot hasn't aged well. Not just because time travel is played out at this point but there more time travel I watch the more typical and generic S;G's plot feels, like it had some interesting lore but the time travel story itself doesn't do anything interesting that other movies haven't already done either earlier or better.
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>>287068211
Nobody cares about the other entries, not even the fans of S;G.
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>>287065953
It was never a classic.
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>>287068229
at the time the hadron collider was in the news a lot, that plus the John tutor thing the kinda "conspiratory" theme was what really hooked me
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>>287068317
I watched robotics:notes and kinda liked it but from my vague fuzzy memory it has a super strange last few eps and ending
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>>287065953
I disliked the main character and that let to me not liking the show that much
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>>287068317
Tbh the whole crossover thing is so forced it doesn't surprise me, sg actually works better if it isn't connected with those works.
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>>287068346
According to who, you? Everyone else in the anime community calls it one.
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>>287068317
And that's a crying shame because s;g isn't even the best thing in its own series.
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>>287068456
The worst part is they barely reference it so it's just kinda there, like yeah cool reading Steiner is a mental ability, cool useless information is not as if we will explain it.
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tuturu~~
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>>287066080
>they hated the first half of the anime
Where is this hate for the first half coming from? I thought the first half was actually better than the second - it's all an uncharted territory with no clear established rules, while the second half is all about loops after loops and, frankly, I've became sick of Mayushi constantly dying.
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>>287068561
Reading Steiner in the context of Steins;Gate is basically an asspull that comes out of nowhere, I get that it's needed for the story but damn if that wasn't convenient.
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>>287065953
It's an excellent story that only contrarians complain about.
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>>287068745
I can kinda understand it though because how else are you going to make a story like this if nobody remembers the time jumps.
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>>287065986
most anime are reddit
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>>287068721
because shonentards dont like SoL/drama only action/suspense
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>>287068855
Arguably they could've made a unique and more interesting story that way than what we ended up getting.
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>>287068721
Zoomers don't have the attention span to enjoy slow build-ups and slice of life shenanigans.
This is why the Visual Novel medium got replaced by Gacha games.
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>>287065953
Baby's firs time travel slop, not really bad, but vastly overrated
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Sg lore is kinda funny if you think about it.
Some kid gets a cold and can now shift timelines, he leaves his phone in the microwave and discovers it's a time machine, and hacks into Geneva and becomes a time lord while being gunned lmao.
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>>287065953
People say it's fantastic and all, but that it only gets good at episode 1231938. I've watched 3 episodes, but it didn't really catch my attention much, so I dropped it.
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>>287069032
>People say
the voices in your head aren't people
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>>287065953
It's like a better version of Donnie Darko and Back to the Future. I'd say it's more than earned its place as an anime/vn classic.
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>>287068993
name 3 better time travel shows
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It's entertaining. I watched all of it, which is a heck of a lot more than some other shows I've dropped.
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>>287065953
I can talk about the game. My main problems with it were:
- like with 99% of these stories, within five minutes you see who the author chose to be the main heroine and who will surely win in the end. She did win and it felt cheap like it does 99% of the time
- this is specially grating because the diferent routes in the game are so interesting with how Okabe gets incresingly mad in different ways, and how there's always pros and cons with the choices he makes. But the "true" route? There are no cons and he lives happily ever after because main heroine must win in the most perfect way possible
- the true route with Le Steins Gate is kind of a cop out, you just buy it if you like the main ship. Then you think they'll explain how it happened in SG0, but oh boy... SG0 is so bad with several pointless subplots and they didn't even explain anything behind the Steins Gate message he received. SG gets retroactively worse with SG0
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>>287065953
i don't think about it at all
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>>287065953
It was an enjoyable watch at the time. In retrospect I don't think a lot of it has aged well. And I'm not talking about the politics around the femboy character, though his story arc also looks kind of shitty now compared to back in 2011.
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>>287069337
>politics of people existing
grow up
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>>287069050
Aren't people in this very thread saying it's amazing though?
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>>287069372
I said I was ignoring any political shit surrounding the trap
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>>287069065
Let it be Your name, Erased aaaand Mirai nikki
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tylzZEYY_po
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>>287069065
Re:Zero, Disappearance of Haruhi, and Summertime Rendering are all better.
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>>287065953
It's arguably the best anime ever made
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>>287069482
>>287069580
All of these are worse than Steins;Gate. You didn't even try.
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>>287069706
>uhm... no!
Kek, whatever
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>>287069706
I know S;G fans like to overrate their series a lot but no, S;G doesn't even come close to at least half of those.
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>>287065953
I honestly don't remember a single thing about this show.
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>>287065953
Steins;Gate is just a mediocre show that people keep shilling as a masterpiece because the main characters use chan imageboards just like them.
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>>287069706
Mirai Nikki is way more fun.
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>>287065953
It's overrated shit.
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>Anime classics
Yamato
Devilman
Cyborg 009
>Not anime classics
Steins Gate
Code Geass
Whatever dogshit you watched on toonami
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>>287070241
>>287070243
Kill yourself
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>>287065953
It has the best girls of all time so it's good.
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>>287069482
your name is good but not better than steins gate, literally feels like an inferior version. erased and mirai nikki are dogshit
>>287069580
rezero anime is mediocre only the novels are good, summer time render is trainwreck shonen trash (but ushio is really cool). haruhi is good but not exactly a time travel show and also not better than steins

>inb4 tatami galaxy
tatami is excellent and even better but its not a time travel show its an alternative reality/~time loop one
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>>287066697
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>>287070274
Steins Gate is a perfectly ok visual novel. It majorly drags in the second half and it doesn't really try anything innovative but it's an enjoyable enough story. It's not a "classic" by any means. There are hardly any choices to make in the story aside from which girl you wanna bang.
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>>287065953
Edge of Tomorrow/All You Need is Kill mogs it
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>>287070391
reddit taste
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>>287066697
Holy based
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>>287065953
Do people just like this anime because they like chuuni characters like Okabe? I didn't really like his attitude and there was basically no other redeeming quality in the entire show. I've seen better girls elsewhere, and I've seen better conspiracy plots than this already.
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>>287065953
It's not a classic; it's a generational anime. In a sense, it shows what the vibe was in the internet communities back then: scipop, r**dit theories, nerd's humor, and vn datesims
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>>287070633
Bro they probably are chunni themselves and that's why
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>>287069706
All of them are better than Steins;Gate. Try again.
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>>287070682
Yeah that's the only way I can explain it
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>>287070391
Funny enough that rezero is the worst of all the ones above, and Mirai nikki is a true /a/ classic, go back to plebbit
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Dosen't rezero literally copy steins gate, subaru has like fantasy reading Steiner, and SG was made first sooo...
I dont know if it's true but
Just saying.
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>>287070979
Re:Zero is a better story than Steins;Gate in every way that actually matters.
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>>287065953
I can't speak to it objectively but it's just not my type of story. I didn't like it.
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The anime is good, but the visual novel is much, much better, that it's hard to take the anime seriously after reading the VN.
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>>287065953
>2011 was 15 years ago
holy fuck man...
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>>287070979
mirai nikki is fucking trash
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>>287070461
none of those are better, reddit might be right this time
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>>287070391
Your Name does more with its 2 hours than Steins Gate does with its 24 episodes. It's a better love story and a better human story than the adventures of a chuuni guy through a forced timeloop conspiracy.
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>>287065953
It's just boring.
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>>287071777
Maybe for Zoomers, the ADHD generation.
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>>287071301
You are old anon.
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>>287071916
It was boring back in 2011 too
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>>287071639
Your name characters are trash and everything that happens is forced to have an emotional reaction. Taki going to the mountain, both times, is extremely forced and stupid. Steins doesnt need that because its better, it is more organic and better written than the only good movie of hacknkai
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>>287071639
god i love that mizuha ntr doujin
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>>287065953
Still garbage with unsufferable fanbase
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SUZUHA
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>>287072142
>Steins doesnt need that because its better, it is more organic and better written
I disagree and there is nothing organic or well written about the crap S;G does with its time travel.
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I don't think Steins;Gate was even a top 5 anime from its own year.
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>>287072424
its detailed and explained throughout the show. meanwhile your name is just retarded and everyone acts stupid so cheap dramatic moments with 0 impact can happen, the definition of movie for casuals
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>>287072616
>meanwhile your name is just retarded and everyone acts stupid so cheap dramatic moments with 0 impact can happen
That sure sounds like Steins;Gate alright.
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>>287065953
Nobody who has watched Primer would think Steins Gate is a masterpiece.
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>>287073272
Wtf is primer?
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>>287065953
>Reddit;Gate
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>>287073397
Westoid time travel movie
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>>287065953
It's a competent time travel story with a weak cast of characters. Not a bad show but not something that stayed with me over the long term.
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>>287065953
>Do you still consider it to be an anime classic?
It never was.
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>>287068084
It's not trying to be a CGDCT. SoL doesn't mean CGDCT.
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>>287069580
>Re:Zero
No it isn't
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>>287072510
Well 2011 is in contention for best year for anime of the century. 2006 is up there too.
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>>287069065
Unnamed Memory, even with bad of an adaptation it was.
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>>287075342
S;G fails at slice of life too.
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>>287075491
You only named one and nobody has even heard of it anyways.
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>>287065953
Steins;Gate is the most I've ever been disappointed by an anime, it's absurd how much people hype up this completely average show.
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>>287073272
Tenet > primid
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>>287072510
2011 was a great year. S;G for me then was a 7/10 okay show but it doesn't even come close to the greats from the early 2010s.
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>>287066697
This
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>>287072616
>everyone acts stupid
You're going to level this criticism against Your Name? Okabe acts stupid almost constantly from the beginning of S;G to the end.
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>>287076206
I'm convinced that the only reason why anyone likes steins gate is because they like Okabe's chuuni routine. Without it the show is a complete nothingburger of a story.
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>>287065953
Tatami Galaxy is better
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>>287076275
>Okabe's chuuni routine
Is insufferable. He's an insufferable character.
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>>287076407
I more or less agree. Kurisu was not bad but I already have an ingrained preference for tsunderes and she didn't do anything to stand out compared to my favorites.
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>>287065953
>what do you think of Steins;Gate?
Good but overrated
>Do you still consider it to be an anime classic?
Hell no.
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>>287076275
There isn't any story that does what Steins;gate does with time travel.
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>>287065953
steins gate is reddit slop and I never liked it.
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>>287066584
Except that I did look at things after the original because I wanted more. After S;G 0 I completely lost all enthusiasm I had for the series and things only got worse from there.
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>>287076275
agreed
the coolest moment in the story is when they are snooping around CERN and find the records of the time travel experiments and the photos of the guy turned into banana gel. nothing before or after lives up to that moment of paranoia because all the rest of the conspiracy stuff is just gun ninjas bursting into the scene to kill everyone over and over without any real horror
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>>287076275
I like good chuuni characters. Okabe is trash.
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>>287076645
Okabe is either the best or one of the best chuuni characters in anime. Who else is he even competing with? Megumin? Reddit garbage. That girl from Chuunibyou? Does anyone even remember her?
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>>287065953
It's already part of the anime canon, it'll always be a classic.
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>>287076717
>megumin reddit
okabe is the biggest reddit character ever
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>>287065953
S;G is a moderately good show that aged badly over the years. I honestly can't imagine calling it a classic.
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Why can't Hiroshi Hamasaki pick a good anime to adapt again? His only non slop work was Blade of Immortal, which got severely butchered because 30 volumes in 20 EPs.
Just pick another SciADV thing or whatever come on.
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>>287065953
I'm mentally forever trapped in the late 00's to early 10's as those were the most carefree days of my life. You can bet your ass I consider Steins;Gate a classic.
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>>287076838
>pick a good anime to adapt
>SciADV
Dude Science Adventure as a series has zero good works in it. Believe me I have the s;G and C;H VNs both a chance.
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>>287066194
>i watched steins gate five years after it released
>that was ten years ago
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>>287076792
>it'll always be a classic
How can you put a show like S;G alongside anime like Ghost in the Shell or Gundam and claim it reaches that level of quality and fame? S;G is no classic, it doesn't even come close.
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>>287076717
Hajime, Ayanokoji and Cid just to name three.
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>>287077009
>mechashit
>better than SG
lol lmao
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>>287077026
Sure, but guess what? Nobody remembers or cares about those characters. So maybe that says something.
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>>287065953
Reddit gay fags lost, never a top anime or vn. Much less a classic.
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>>287077193
Wrong, and it will always be a top anime no matter how much the dozen or so contrarianfags here seethe about it.
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>>287065953
It's a masterpiece but got milked to death with garbage sequels and spinoffs
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>>287065953
8/10 show
3/10 fans
That pretty much sums it up. Many such cases.
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>>287065953
Suzuha is best girl
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>>287065975
FPBP
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>>287065953
I disliked most of the characters so it ended up falling flat.
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>>287078930
Same for me
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I want to bully Okabe!
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>>287066677
Suzuha SPATS
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The only good character in this thing is the tomboy.
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>>287081191
Holy based
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>>287081191
Embarrassing post, kill yourself.
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>>287065953
A solid 8/10, very good but not the masterpiece people pretend it is. The anime cutting out a lot of the fat from the VN certainly helped. When I think of my favorites from back then though, I don't think it holds up as well as Shin Sekai Yori, or White Album 2 if we're talking VN adaptations.
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>>287065953
There are better time travel anime out there.
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>>287069065
Edge of Tomorrow
Tatami Galaxy
Dark
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>>287065953
It's really not a classic by any means, the people that claim it is need to watch more anime, starting with the real classics.
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>>287065953
never managed to tolerate the male characters for more than a handful of episodes
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>>287084396
Daru is genuinely a terrible character. He's the gross perv character that people complain about in every other anime where one shows up, except it's good now because ????
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>those deleted posts
Well, now it's confirmed that there's a lot of samefagging behind the hate against Steins;Gate
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>>287076717
>That girl from Chuunibyou? Does anyone even remember her?
Everyone does. She's an iconic part of anime culture.
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Suzuha NEEDS to sit on my face.
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>>287066290
she's a proud 2chan user
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>>287066697
anon, you're really not like other guys!
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>>287065953
S;G doesn't look as good now as it did before because the more time travel you watch the more uninspired the plot feels
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>>287065953
>Surely this thread won't be a controversial shitposting hell hole-
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>>287065986
Anon, it was popular before Reddit was a particularly major internet institution. Are you retarded?
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>>287086188
Reddit was already fucking huge in the late 00s.
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I love how people can it reddit when it literally references chan culture, and the characters are built upon chan concepts.
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>>287065953
>"Thank you Steins;Gate"
>"Steins;Gate?"
>"Because um... you have a big nose"
>"Oy vey"
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>>287085894
preferably after a 50 mile ride
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>>287086941
We're indeed living through an unprecedented mental health crisis and collapse of average IQ levels. Idiocracy was too optimistic.
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>>287086941
kurisu was based on me
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i like it but ive only played the vn i refuse to watch reddit anime
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>>287086941
explains the crossdressing homo
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>>287065953
It's average or a bit below average. I wouldn't call it a classic.
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>>287065953
The characters are all very shallow outside of Okabe.
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>>287066290
Kurisu gets plenty of screen time, the problem is she never develops beyond being a basic bitch tsundere.
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>>287091357
That just describes almost every character in this show, most of them are pretty one-note.
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>>287069580
>Summertime Rendering
Like hell it is. The series pretended to be a supernatural murder mystery when it was nothing but up-jumped battle shĹŤnen. It was fun and the ending was okay, but it's not THAT good.
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>>287071046
Every way that matters? Like presenting a compelling romance between its leads when that's one of the defining elements of both stories? Because if you think Emilia is a better written heroine then Kurisu than you should just stop consuming media entirely and find some other hobby. Alternatively: kill yourself.
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>>287068211
>It's part of a larger series, retarded newfag
They should still have added more depth to sern and the sern conspiracy if they're going to add it to S;G's story. They could've done a lot better with it than just the gun men.
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>>287076717
>That girl from Chuunibyou? Does anyone even remember her?
Get a load of this retarded faggot.
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>>287091597
the whole show was a trainwreck thats why the ending was bad. at least the girls were cute and the mc bearable
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>>287091694
She's a garbage character compared to Okabe
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>>287091480
Honestly i think the problem with the characters is they don't grow from their initial characterization, by the end of the anime they are still pretty much the same, minus arguably okabe.
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>>287091697
When I say "the ending was okay", I'm just referring to the last chapter. The whole fight leading up to it was awful.
>>287091732
Fuck you and the people who raised you to be such a mouth-breathing glue eater. They're both phenomenal characters.
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>>287091735
I think even in the end okabe returns back to his chuuni ways so I'm not entirely sure how much he developed as a character/person.
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>>287091843
Okabe at least has that scene with them giving the badges.
But it's interesting, you would think they would have changed more for everything that happened.
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>>287065953
I liked it
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>>287091597
Seeing the plot change over time was fun and I enjoyed the story a lot more than S;G.
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>>287086051
I really thought they would do something more interesting with all of the time travel setup than just a loop to save Mayuri. The loop itself doesn't even really make sense.
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Thinking about it, this really should have gotten more sequels with them exploring various stories time traveling intead we got the other semi connected games.
I know zero was supposed to be that but it didn't do enough.
This series feels like a waste of potential and bare minimum,the characters are there the mechanics are there the antagonist are there but it just basic loop.
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>>287094258
Zero was just too badly plotted to feel satisfying. Too bad because the idea was good but the execution was lacking.
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>>287065953
Subpar characters and plot but worth watching for the 2010 atmosphere. That's the best thing I can say about it.
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>>287094258
The main issue is that the way time travel works in Steins Gate, you either have Okabe directly causing the time change, which limits what it can be, or have the world changing around him with no input in a way that feels arbitrary if it's caused by someone else elsewhere in the world (like the World War 3 segments in Zero). There aren't actual parallel timelines, so what they can do with it is rather limited, and they'd obviously want to restore things to normal by the end.

Another problem though is that for whatever reason they only wanted to use Okabe alongside the Steins Gate cast, when he was in the best position to end up in a story (involving worldline changes) around a mostly new cast. But they never pursued that.

In fact, before they ended up going for a remake of Steins Gate, they had announced a new "Stein" title that would be a successor like Chaos Head -> Chaos Child, with an entire new cast, which just goes back to the issue of them not wanting to use Okabe without the Steins Gate cast to the point they'd consider doing that before actually featuring him by himself.
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>>287096037
Using okabe with another cast sounds great, the more i think about it the more i realize how weirdly limiting the use of this ip has been.
Like it always takes place in the same place, with similar cast, when in concept it should feel more than that.
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>>287096164
This whole series is kind of wasted potential sadly.
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>>287096739
True, it feels like a prologe to a bigger story that never came.
They spend like so much set up just to do a boring loop, and the conspiracy gets reduced to a couple of guys with guns.
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>>287091637
Subaru and Rem are better characters than anyone in S;G.
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>>287065953
15 years later, Chaos;Head is still the better visual novel.
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>>287097662
Holy based
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>>287091597
>The series pretended to be a supernatural murder mystery when it was nothing but up-jumped battle shĹŤnen
And steins gate pretended to be a complex time travel thriller when it was nothing but contrived time loop slop? What's your point?
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>>287069065
Groundhog Day, Tatami Galaxy, and Back to the Future all have better writing
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EL
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PSY
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>>287065953
This anime has the most punchable main character I've ever seen.
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>>287065953
>Steins gate
>classic
God no. Code Geass is a classic. Haruhi is a classic. Not this.
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>>287101114
>the only character in the show who isn't a shallow no substance cardboard cutout
>He's unbelievably annoying to even listen to
What were they thinking?
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>>287101611
>What were they thinking?
They weren't. The only logic that went into the character writing was making everyone le quirky because the writers thought quirky = automatically entertaining.
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>>287101114
>>287101611
>>287101731
samefag
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I like the tomboy. That's all I remember about this.
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KANGAROOOO
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>>287065953
I don't think it hits classic level. Arguably most people have already stopped caring about S;G for the most part.
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>>287065953
I gave it a 6/10. Not bad but generally underwhelming.
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>>287065953
Always and forever
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>>287091637
The difference here is you are comparing Emilia, the weakest main character from Re:Zero who sucks, to Kurisu, the best character from Steins;Gate, who still sucks.
I'm thinking Re:Zero won.
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>>287065953
S;G needed more depth to its characters to be called a classic.
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>>287065953
Not as good as the game honestly, it doesnt help that reading the source material spoils everything as well, but thats true for any adaptation
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>>287103472
Should I try the game if I thought the anime was underwhelming? Not sure if it's worth it.
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>>287065953
I can't get over how stupid MC was to give his time machine to everyone thus causing all the problems in the story. This thing is idiot plot to the max.
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>>287066028
>best ending
That's Code Geass you mong. Or at least Cowboy Bebop, not Shite;Gate.
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>>287103716
The show like any VN adaptation doesnt take the time to go over the side characters and specific details so in cases like steins gate and clannad, even if the show isnt bad it misses a lot of what made the source material interesting, it also skips a lot with the sequel, but you should play the first game at least
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>>287103716
The visual novel is mid. Admittedly I only played 5 hours but I dropped it because it failed to do anything interesting in that time.
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I wish I could take 2-3 of the girls in this show and transfer them into a better story. What a waste.
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>>287065953
Even now, I love Moeka.
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I wish I could forget it so I could rematch it again and again.
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>>287065953
The John Titor references were the only good part and the peak of the slow burn conspiracy shit the story was clearly trying to go for. Too bad about the rest of it.
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>>287065953
It's overrated garbage
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>>287065953
it was trash when I watched the first three episodes and I still consider it overhyped redditor core
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>>287091637
RZ had more poignant emotional beats. Steins Gate just feels like a cheap thriller in comparison, it doesn't even do the time travel sciencey stuff well.
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>>287103716
>Should I try the game if I thought the anime was underwhelming?
Don't, it's the same story but even more drawn out and poorly paced.
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>>287065953
I lost all of my love of S;G after 0. I don't really care anymore. No it is not a classic.
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>>287065953
I wish I could get my time back from watching this mediocrity
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>>287065953
I don't remember anything about it despite watching the show as it aired. I liked it at the time but it didn't end up being memorable.
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>>287066182
This. I think the story is good enough in a vacuum but it's been overhyped so much over the years that when I finally watched it I ended up disappointed.
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>>287103779
Idiot plot is a good way to describe it. The only reason why anything in the story happened was through everyone constantly being stupid
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>>287104354
That sounds like torture.
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>>287107254
I don't know how people can keep calling this series a masterpiece when it hasn't even been decent for over 10 years.
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>>287065953
still haven’t seen it, still won’t bother to see it
the semicolon irritated my autism at the time so I mentally put it in the “that’s dumb” list and never considered watching it
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>>287065953
I'll be honest I only watched this because kurisu was hot. I don't regret watching it but to call this show great or a classic is REALLY pushing it.
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>>287107894
>to call this show great or a classic
Only retarded fanboys call S;G that.
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>>287065953
good thing they never made a sequel
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>>287104293
That’s the most frustrating part. The character designs and personalities carry hard, especially Kurisu and Moeka, but they’re stuck propping up a plot that thinks looping “muh suffering” is the same as depth. Drop them into something tighter with actual stakes and less idiot-ball passing and they’d shine way more. Instead we get endless pseudoscience lectures and shock bait. Total waste of good waifus.
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>>287065953
pretty good show overall. Not sure about calling it a classic though
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>>287065953
>what do you think of Steins;Gate
It's ironic weeb slop
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>>287069065
All of them.
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I really wish they could've made the time travel plot even a bit less derivative and unoriginal
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>>287108421
Sorry, best I can do is rip off Groundhog Day but make it worse and about a manchild.
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>>287108493
I'm starting to understand why a lot of manchildren seem to like this series.
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>>287077086
Gundam shits all over your time travel slop
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>>287065953
I only like to fap to the girls. The story itself isn't anything to write home about.
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>>287087225
Kek
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>>287065953
Robotics;Notes is a better VN, now that I think of it. Better character writing. Starts off slow but builds up to the Tokyo Expo nicely. Final battle with GunBuild 1 is fucking peak. I love how the whole town gets together to support the Robo club's defense of Tanegashima. The creepy parts are also sufficiently creepy.
Anyone with a brain knows that there's not a single good SciAdv adaptation (including S;G). Also LukACKo a shit! A SHIIIIIIIIIIIT.
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>>287096806
Lolwut? Dude, SERN is just the tip of the iceberg with the Committee of 300 shit. They're ultimately just a bit player in a much grander conspiracy. Which you would know if you played Chaos;Head.
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>>287065953
It's overrated, and Chaos;Head is underrated.
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>>287065953
Calling this anime good is already more credit than it deserves.
>classic
lol
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>>287065953
I didn't care for it. Watch The Girl who Leapt Through Time instead.
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>>287109183
>>287109248
Retard taste
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>>287065953
I hate how stupidly ironic and cringe the MC's chuuni routine was
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>>287109657
Did you even understand his motivation for being a chuuni in the first place?
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>>287109692
Yes? That makes it worse because he's not even being sincere about it. As I said it's irony poisoned trash.
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>>287109657
That's what makes it so funny
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>>287109772
I'm sure it's funny to some people. It wasn't for me.
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>>287067070
>S;G is already good within 3 episodes.
Why do you lie?
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Steins Gate is fine, it's better to enjoy it for the Hamasaki direction and the love-letter-to-2000s-Akiba flair it has going for it

One thing I'll never understand is the vegetable sex change though.
They could have easily just wrote it so that they sent the D-mail to Luka's mom's pager before he got conceived but they just had to include a glaring plothole for no good reason
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>>287109868
The Akiba setting is definitely the highlight of the anime. I don't think I enjoyed the actual plot/characters nearly as much.
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>>287065953
my internal score for these shows that i -- at the time -- rated 6.5~ (/10) have their scoring gradually increment every year where no new releases outshine them.

s;g is at an 8 at this point, relative to the rest of the medium; could be a 9 in 2035.
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>>287109918
The real question is why you ever scored it 6.5 to begin with.
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>>287103716
Yes, you should.
>better art
>better soundtrack
>more content
>more endings
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>>287109868
There is no plothole, secondary.
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>>287109868
It's pseudoscientific bullshit anyway. Don't think too hard about it.
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>>287110011
It's literally impossible for an already conceived fetus to have their chromosomal makeup change while its gestating in the womb from the influence on the actions of a mother from a pager message that came to her when she was already pregnant
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>>287065953
It could've been good but I didn't like any of the characters much.
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>>287110042
This post is so idiotic. No one thinks this and it's even pointed out how absurd it is. It's also impossible for a microwave to transport data through time. The VR technology used for brain leaping is literally build on delusional technology that Takumi came up with as a child.
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>>287111448
This is part of the problem, S:G can't decide if it's supposed to be a parody of scifi or a serious one.
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>>287111448
>>287111495
There's a thing called verisimilitude my guy.
You can readily and easily suspend your disbelief for something like the lifter and rotating black hole time machines in S;G as just an in-universe reality. Same as how the attractor filed works in the S;G universe.
After all, it's a scifi anime anyway and those plot points are based on real life theoretical models, even if embellished a bit.
On the other hand, suspending your disbelief for vegetable sex change is literally impossible if yo aren't a lobotomite since it's literally written in a way that breaks causality.

Sure, they point at how absurd what happens is, but it's still unimaginably stupid to make it happen from a storytelling pov in the first place since the plot point would have you believe information sent to a specific point in time could somehow influence shit that already happened before when the d-mail was received by the recipient.
Taking it at face value would mean that d-mails run the risk of bringing back the dinosaurs because sending a d-mail to the 1990s somehow altered chicxulub's orbit. Cause and effect don't matter in the narrative now after all.
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>>287065953
>anime
It's shit.
The main games are okay.
My Darling's Embrace is the best and have the only ending that matters where Lukako is male and have loving sex with Okabe every single day while everyone else gets to live and is happy with it.
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>>287065953
It was okay.
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>>287065953
It's overrated imo. As far as pop time travel goes BttF is more enjoyable of a story.
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>>287065953
5/10 adaptation of a 6/10 vn. Personally I don't get why it became popular except people probably really liked time travel and chuuni back in 2011.
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>>287066967
thats fine, steins gate is already good by the first episode. if you don't like it by then, don't even bother with ep 2 or 3. just get out
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>>287114734
This
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>>287065953
My favorite character was Faris
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>>287065953
It's average at best, I'd put it on the level of a pretty good seasonal show.
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Gas all secondaries
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>>287065953
I didn't get the hype until episode 13, then I got it.
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>>287116084
The visual novel isn't better, sure there's some additional explanations and scenes and character moments, but it's still the same stupid story at the end of the day.
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>>287116317
so you're saying it's better
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>>287116397
No im saying it doesn't fix the fundamental problems.
But if you like it then sure it's better, i guess.
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The only good thing about the Zero VN is us getting a super gratuitous CG of wet and naked Suzuha.
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>>287116480
no, you said it "isn't better"
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>>287065953
I refuse to watch it because I want to read the VN instead, but it's been years since I bought it on steam and still havent't done it.
I read Chaos;Head Noah though. That was pretty alright overall and had a few really good moments.
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>>287115163
Wrong.
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>>287118222
anon if you don't plan on watching and enjoying the entire show before you've even started the first episode, it's literally just not for you. leave now
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>>287115163
>steins gate is already good by the first episode.
This is just a brazen lie. I don't know what die hard S;Gfags are smoking but it must be the good stuff.
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>>287118964
its good before you even start watching it. its just not for you, that's okay. go watch precure
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>>287065953
This anime is full of so many shit annoying characters to the point where I can't stand watching it.
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>>287104323
>I love Moeka
Said no one, ever.
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>>287118357
Wrong again.
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>>287065953
I only care about kurisu. The series itself is okay but not that good.
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>>287119046
Ep 1 is unironically the worst one, okabe is annoying when his not serious and his introduction is all about his retarded chunni personality.
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>>287119046
Actually it's bad even after you've finished it. Good taste is just not for you, that's okay. Go jerk off to Kurisu some more.
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>>287069065
I watched Edge of Tomorrow a few years ago and it was so much more riveting than this. It also didn't rely on having a quirky chuuni doing absurd things to be interesting.
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>>287065953
it sucked and is not worth remembering
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>>287116040
Same
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>>287065953
This thing lowkey has one of the worst anime fanbases around
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>>287124742
>lowkey
Zoom zoom
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>>287122662
S;G is good for the porn. That's about it though.
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>>287065953
The only thing this garbage will be remembered for is the troon
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>>287065953
It was genuinely a decently good series until s;g0 completely ruined it. The drop in this series' prestige has been dramatic.
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I hate how many trannies tried to use it to enable their bullshit
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>>287127329
Steins;Gate as a series hasn't produced anything good for over ten years. I've lost most of the love and respect I had for the series at this point, I'm hoping for the reboot to change things but I really doubt it
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>>287066277
>some reason that I'm not able to understand.
It was still the era of stuff like the x-files and other /x/ related stuff being extremely popular. Shadowy organizations and secret sciences.
The story is terrible, but it was far more topical than people acknowledge in retrospect.
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>>287127544
That's just the medium in general. If you are a mentally ill faggot anything will appear to you as a tranny allegory, from Lain or Haibane Renmei to Steins;Gate and Elfen Lied.
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>>287127572
>Steins;Gate as a series hasn't produced anything good
Fixed that for you.
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>>287127664
To be fair, it did produce Suzuha's ass, so something good came out of all this in the end.
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>>287127664
Trvke
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I honestly like Chaos;Child way more. More people should at least give it a chance.
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>>287066697
Literally me
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>>287065953
I have a long complicated relationship with this show over the years. I think in the end I remember it more for the memories of that period of my life back then more than for the show itself.
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>>287065953
It can't be a classic because it has barely any good characters. It's also shallow as fuck but that's a different issue.
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>>287065953
Kurisu being a cute nerd that uses 4chan singlehandedly carries this mid story
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>>287071777
Get an attention span please.
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>>287065953
Baby's first time travel
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>>287065953
Wacky shit with cringe humor.
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>>287065975
You need to watch more than 3 anime.
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Only Reddit thinks S;G is a classic
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>>287130841
this
it's also beloved on normalfag spaces like MAL
hence why the dedicated steinsfag always yabbers about "muh contrarians" in response to criticism
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>>287065953
>15 years later, what do you think of Steins;Gate?
An average anime with an overinflated reputation.
>Do you still consider it to be an anime classic?
No.
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>>287065953
It's mediocre.
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>>287065953
I like it but it's not *that* good. I just felt particularly attached to Faris and that carried me through.
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>>287065953
I feel like this anime reputation is a bit of a inside joke, like we all agreed to call it masterful even when you think about it it doesn't make any sense.
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>>287065953
I watched it as it was airing and never understood the hype.
Animation was turbo mid. Story was mid. Main character was sub-mid. Girls were turbo-mid.
It also had nothing for it to stand out, nothing that made me think it innovated or changed or took an interesting angle on something I already saw. It literally felt like 1000 previous anime with the usual character tropes being thrown at me with nothing new.
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>>287065953
Yeah it's a classic



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