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My Banquet of Kings looks a little strange.
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>>287073739
...mommy?
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Altria and Shirou's daughter?
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>>287073739
>Appears in one episode
>Leaves
What was her deal?
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>>287073739
That is not my King.
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You ever wonder if Hippolyta and the other females servants have hairy vaginas ?
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>>287073739
And they say she's not a Saberface.
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>>287073788
they're greeks
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Waited so long to hear this guy and what a voice he's got.
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>>287073739
Even the anime staff knows she's a Saberface
>BUT NARITA
Death of the author
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>>287073770
Rin wanted to comb her hair some more.
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>>287073739
How would things have gone for Hippolyta instead of Arturia at that banquet?
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>>287073739
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>Flat gets shot in the stomach
"Haha, no way that actually kills hi-"
>gets his brains blown out
Well... that was very unexpected.
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>>287073837
she's not a king for starters
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>>287073807
It's a good voice. Fitting of an old DAA.
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>>287073853
;_;
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>>287073837
She would have spent the whole time talking about Heracles and how he's stronger than them.
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>>287073807
His VA is underrated, the kind who has a pretty nice voice but since he mostly voices supporting characters doesn't gets enough recognition, which is sad.
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Never forget Kayneth.
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>>287073963
Will the newly announced season 2 bring more church women sex good?
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COULDN'T BETRAY YOU IF I TRIED
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>>287073999
No, not really. Unless they've got scenes in the last volume, they only do one more thing (assist in subduing Jester one more time in volume 9).
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Who was the vampire lord? Ive watched Zero, UBW, the 3 movies and case files
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Isn’t Faldeus CIA? Shouldn’t he hold back against someone who allied with the police?
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>Mind break a little girl and force her to commit divine suicide merging herself with the concept of Death
Jester really is a bitch ass nigga.
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>>287073963
Oooh she fancy with it.
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>>287073853
Tsubaki stuff got me a little teary eyed, that's rare
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>>287074022
he's trying to stop a massive faction from forming between flat-berserker, police-caster, wolf-lancer and ayaka-saber-assassin
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>>287074072
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>>287074021
Ancient vampire king who is now just a CEO in the modern world and Jester's progenitor vampire, one of the 27 final boss vampires.
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>>287073894
The voice acting right here made me tear up despite me not caring much for her. 10/10 acting, she was just a kid. Fuck HGWs.
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>>287074021
He's the vampire glowie that controls the world, irrelavent to fate outside of Fake's crossovers with Tsukihime.
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>>287073853
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Hold on Tsubaki! My three brothers are coming to keep you company too!
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I was really hoping to see cameos from Nrvnqsr and Merem for more DAA kino, but at least we finally got to see Van-Fem animated after all this time.
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>was easily winning the war
>Decided it wasn't worth winning
She could only lose to herself
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On my way to dismantle all magecraft everywhere in the history of ever so not one more child will cry like Tsubaki did.
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>>287074197
The one that could've countered her the easiest got taken out first
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>>287073862
Then for good measure pumped full of holes as well.
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>>287074209
Use the Holy Grail to assassinate Solomon. It just was not worth it. None of it was worth it.
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Never gets old
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>>287074213
Gil can literally do nothing against pale rider
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Faldeus killing Flat is a bit random, why did he do that was that dangerous?
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By no means am I complaining, but holy grail, has any anime's season finale this season generated this many threads and this much discussion? We're on like the third thread, and all the previous ones so far have reached well over past bump limit.

The only other anime I can think of is Fire Force.
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>>287074221
>>287074203
>>287074197
Fuck...
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>>287074269
>get dropped in a reality marble
>ea gg
He's the only one with a real counter, although Alcides would do good too.
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>>287074269
It's the other way around. Gil can banish Pale Rider with a wave of his sword, but Enkidu can't do a thing against him. Total compatibility failure, Gil has the one item that can shatter the entire underworld.
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>>287074209
Pale Rider...
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>>287074108
So what happened to her? Poor girl has no idea how much power her words hold. How fucked is she?
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>>287074255
Kawasumi still got it
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sex with assassin im thinking
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Just to be clear, Sigma didn't kill Tsubaki's parents. He notes in the novel, if he did, she would be sad.
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>>287074319
She's not gone yet
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>>287074295
>>287074309
Gil would never take EA right away so he would just job frame 1 inside the RM
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Tactical genius
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>>287074255
Aieee, spoilers
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>goal is to destroy the holy grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1bXu0XZDlU
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>>287074342
Literally no one died inside the RM, why would the servant who has visited the underworld several times in his legend do so?
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>I'm sorry for eating up half the screentime
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>>287074255
Just have shown him Arturia jobbing to the teacher and getting ganbanged by japanese teens.
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>smile status: not protected
You all failed.
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>>287074346
Crashing this Holy Grail War with no survivors
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Apoc was unironically a better, more coherent story.
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>>287074346
The marvelous plan of "do something which in turn fucks things over even worse than before"
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>>287074375
TSUBAKI'S FUARKING HERO
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>>287073963
Why is blue hair so sexo?
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>>287073862
Funny thing is Ryuunosuke died similarly in Zero.
CLAP CLAP!
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>>287074319
In this case, she had every idea of the consequences.
She remains alone in her underworld, now empty of all things. For the most part, Tsubaki sleeps within the emptiness. Due to Ishtar's mucking about, though, the texture of Snowfield reverts to the age of gods, morphing her underworld into Kur. For a time, she ends up tended to by Ereshkigal. Eventually Ishtar is struck down, and the ensuing chaos causes Tsubaki to awaken. She walks through darkness, momentarily passes through a few other underworlds like Valhalla and Mictlan, before arriving in what appears to be the Semina Apartments (from the ghost story if you've forgotten).
There, she comes across Ayaka Sajou crying alone in an elevator. Tsubaki politely introduces herself as she always does. That is the last we see of her.
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Why are dead apostles described as vampires? I think they hardly even suck blood from what I see. They are more like general magic users rather than monsters who need suck blood to survive.
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>>287074328
Assassin with her exposed hair is pure sex.
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>>287074391
>more coherent
Yes
>better
No. It was just el dragondick wish fulfilment with some cool fights thrown in.
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>start episode
>richard being richard
kek
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>>287074336
>>287074351
he used kerry's remaining origin bullets to destroy their magic circuits, right?
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Prelati tried to mindbreak Richard showing him how weak willed and stupid Arthuria is

Not realizing Richard's abnormal morals, he's the type who cheers on Arthuria for saving Camelot but also cheers on Mordred for wiping out Camelot, in reality he sees all aspects as equally valid. Much like a guy who just views the entire thing as a story. He's the guy that instantly forgave the kid that shot him in what was ultimately a pointless battle. He would unironically be a Zerofag discussing how other people simply didnt understand, actually the king of conquerors never admonished Sabers goals truly, he just tested her, really everyone else didn't understand the nuances of the kings discussion.
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>>287074426
You think she'll get mad if I called her onee-san too?
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>>287074372
Of the three routes, what humiliating scene would you show to Richard? I think Richard would be feel terrible if he saw Saber Alter in general.
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>>287074417
Nah, it's True Ancestors that don't suck blood. Dead Apostles LOVE sucking blood. Though, they usually also eat the flesh as they do, so it doesn't look like the "bite the neck and suck it out" so much as "eat that motherfucker entirely so no blood escapes".
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>>287074391
Strange Fake is basically Apocrypha, if Apocrypha didn't suck.
No wonder A1 has given it far more effort when adapting it
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>>287074280
It's a war, dingus
Never be caught lacking
Flat treats it like a chance to meet new friends, Faldeus treats it like a war
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So... the strongest of everything is always a fucking gun?
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>>287074391
Apocrypha's world building lore like Hassan Assassin's running the meta in Sub Grail Wars was more entertaining than Apocrypha's actual story.
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I refuse to blieve Flat is just fucking dead like that, no fucking way
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Richard feats in season 1
>Stalemate with fake assassin
>Fought and lost against Enkidu who didn't even use 50% of its power
>Jobbed against Gilgamesh the king of jobbers
>Only victories were against trash mobs
Is our king weak?
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>>287074346
>Narita: I wanna have a US government agent as a master... Hai, his servant must be a masked assassin
>https://files.catbox.moe/hnbumu.mp3
Really Narita?
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>>287074391
Animation was certainly better in Apoc
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>>287074493
>CIA
>summons a radical islamist suicide bomber to eliminate his political enemies
yeah it checks out
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>>287074437
I sure fucking hope so. The only justice remaining in this world is that they will remain mageless, worthless bums for the remainder of their lifespan.
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These two together gets me horny
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>>287074280
Motherfucker managed to bound a Dead Apostle
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>Zouken is either dead, or just not doing anything
>He still ruins everything because a mage family tried to copy him leading to Pale Rider
KEK
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>>287074493
Why did Fladeus shoot Flat before throwing him out of an underworld?
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>>287074379
>>287074221
>>287074197
I can save her.
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>>287074295
Alcidies is fucked
Especially in the dream world itself where Tsubaki is king.
The only way he escaped getting sucked in was by sacrificing three of his prized war horses from his NP, and also losing Cerberus. Second he smelled the scent of death he just started running.

After realizing Tsubaki's nature he decided that even if he doesn't do anything, it doesn't matter, because people who call themselves heroes in the modern era will be forced to kill her whether they want to or not. A cursed child with a dangerous power, he's seen this sort of thing play out before. The one that had to kill them is always a hero, not a villain.
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>>287074410
also the reason she sees various underworlds is because she's having servant dreams, but her servant isn't a person and doesn't have a past to view so the closest thing possible are the underworlds
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>>287074491
The 50 percent thing is weird. He was barley using 5% at best if you consider the shit he did against Gil.
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What is the price he pays for choosing to do this?
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>>287074475
Yup
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>>287073770
>What was her deal?
Rin needed to abuse her clitty some more.
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How would Richard react to this?
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>>287074575
Alcides has fought and wounded Hades and Thanatos, he'd be fine. Tsubaki's underworld is not a serious threat to big name heroes unless they have a specific weakness to it as we've seen in the story. Sure, if it was some other Master with a stronger imagination of the apocalypse everyone would be fucked except for instant Ea gg but that isn't the case in this story.
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>>287074379
Wait, she is dead for real?
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>>287074529
I love Francesa. Her every move screams cute and sensual.
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>>287074609
I'd like to see his reaction to Saber getting mad that Shirou said he they wouldn't have dinner.
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>>287074432
El dragondick wish fulfillment vs "I recognize XYZ *clapclapclap*" wish fulfillment.
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>>287074493
Narita's a big buy
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Which character do you think Narita wasted the most potential in fsf?
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>Saberfags will now parrot Narita's incorrect interpretation of the Banquet even though Iskandar and Gil outright said she wasn't a true king
God damn it
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>>287074642
For Nasu.
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>>287073963
That's right, get on your knees WHORES
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>>287073807
Who is the VA? It sounded like Taiten Kusonoki to me but I have not kept up with new VAs in the last 15 or so years so I could be wrong.
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>>287074591
At some point the amount of projectiles stops mattering, but Enkidu can do more than just shoot swords anyway. So saying Enkidu was operating at <50% swordspam potential is probably right and is enough to survive against Gil using a relatively small amount of portals too.
When we get to shit Enkidu pulls off later in the story then yeah, it's more like 5%.
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>>287074594
Nothing. He gets away with it and is one of the primary reasons ishtar gets taken out
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>>287074594
Everything he always does in this story bites him in the ass
He's cursed to have shit luck
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>>287074394
Pretty accurate for America ngl.
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>>287073963
uoooh nuns spreading their legs...
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>>287074553
And of all kinds of magecraft to be mindbroken by they chose the stupid bugs. Out of all of the available choices to be a shitty knockoff of, they chose fucking this.
And this is before you get to their shitty plan entering the grail war, Christ everyone in here has a doctorate in being retards
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>>287074643
All the original "fake" characters. The second set of servants and masters were a mistake.
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>>287074529
If you asked me, I'd dick François first.
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>>287074647
Gilfags remain jobbers mentally, physically and spiritually.
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Police Girl Harem, or Nun Harem?
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>>287074493
Narita wants to be the next Tom Clancy or Hideo Kojima doesn't he?
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>>287073806
That doesn’t answer the question.
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>>287074647
Gil is Gil and Iskandar admitted he was a tyrant. In my opinion, Saber’s answer was fairly obviously shown to be the ‘best’ answer, but the worst for her personally.
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Why didn't flat just deploy anti bullet magic?
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>>287074707
Just Vera
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>cavalryman... planerider?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvywAUi5uQ
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>>287074410
NASU!!!!!
WHAT DOES IT MEAN NASU!!!!!!!
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>>287074594
Waver's gonna freak!
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>>287074519
>Be CIA man
>Use a Shiite Islamist to assassinate politcial opponents
>Use said terrorist as a reason to invade Iran
Getting a bit too real here.
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>>287074575
Alcide's Valor rank is at D. Of course he ran away. All he ever does is run away. Sure he makes a big show, but his entire character arc is running away from his past, his pain, his identity, and now even death.
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>>287074707
Nun harem for pink sex.
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>i-it's... bigger than I expected
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>>287074564
Faldeus is an American, we have an instinctual dislike for Europeans.
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I wonder if Maiya got to find Sigma in the Prisma timeline where Kiritsugu and Irisviel try to put a stop to Grail War shit.
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>CIA man
>servant is literally a mask
This HAS to be a banepost, it's impossible not to be.
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Soloes fuyuki and snowfield
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>>287074834
Jobs to Shinji
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>>287074803
>>287074564
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>>287074475
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>>287074798
I'd my kidney for high quality, well written and well drawn in-character and on model hentai of her.
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Why is a 12th century white man bowing like a japanese man?
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>>287074678
>Taiten Kusonoki
Correct.
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>>287073963
Were they created before yorhas, or after them? I don't remember.
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>>287074798
She looks like...
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>>287074787
Why are religious girls always the best. Assassin, the nuns...
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>>287074920
Created before but designed after. In the novel they were described as wearing blindfolds and strange tight-fitting black clothing, explicitly described "like a wetsuit". The manga gave them their 2B-esque design and that came out a few months after NieR: Automata so the manga artist was probably inspired.
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After FGO showed what a significantly nerfed ORT can do at just level 1, I became immensely more concerned what would happen if Jester woke it up. I mean knew Angra Mainyu said he can't match up in speed with ORT or Primate Murder, but damn...
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>>287074909
Ayaka is japanese, maybe he learnt it from her idk
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>>287074728
Gilgamesh answer was by far the best if you actually read Babylonian
A king is a tyrant whether they act on it or not, because they have the potential to be because they have the power to be, because they have the motive to be, it's best to accept it
You can choose to be a good tyrant, but ultimately you are still a tyrant

Babylonia Gilgamesh still considered himself a tyrant even if everything he's doing is good because he's single handedly deciding it all for himself and taking all the weight onto himself, no matter how noble the tyrant is they're still a tyrant

Saber was deluding herself " I'm not a tyrant, everything I do is noble and done through council decisions therefore it's not like I ever force my will onto anything", meanwhile one of the reasons no one respected her is because she didn't force her will properly, while at the same time she was wiping out her own cities burning them down so other countries couldn't use them to refuel, which is something a tyrant would do. She's the worst of both worlds, delusional, taking on all the negatives of not being a tyrant while still ultimately acting as one in secret
What do you call it when she takes all the NPs of her fellow knights in each new summoning she gets? She gets Ywain's lion summoning, she gets Lancelots dagger, she gets Mordred's prydwayn, she gets all the knights NPs whenever she wants? Oh right, that's tyrannical, she can just take other people's shit

Saber was the one that sounded the best so idiots fell for it, until you examine actual policy. Saber killed all the children in Camelot to try to prevent Mordred from being born, while Gilgamesh returned to Mesopatamia and ruled as a good king until the end of his days.
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>cleanly shaven
This isn't very pious. Nuns should have bushes.
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>>287074798
how big are her honkers
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HARAM
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>>287074987
>Gilgamesh answer was by far the best
Gilgamesh had no answer, he never said anything about how he wanted to rule, he just kept laughing all the time
>Saber killed all the children in Camelot to try to prevent Mordred from being born
No she didn't
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>>287074987
Ahem... Fuck KINGS
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>>287074594
Might be a bit insensitive, but with this Rin automatically becomes the number 1 most talented student, right? NUMBAH ONE!
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>>287075004
Do you think Zealot has a bush too ?
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>>287075037
Gilgamesh did have an answer, but it's the most tautological answer there is. The King is the King because he is the King. One who rules shall rule. If one does not, they are not a king to begin with.
In his worldview you have an axiomatic principle archetype to embody and his is "King, one who rules". Though he was actually built to be "one who passes judgment", he defected from that destiny.
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>>287074987
Where do people keep getting the "she burned down her own cities" from? She DRAINED THE VILLAGES OF RESOURCES. Even before Garden of Avalon, that was what she said she did all the fucking way back in Fate/stay night. Where the fuck did you people EVER fucking read that she burned down her villages? Where was this said? Because I fucking promise you, this was never said ANYWHERE.

I swear to God, this is literally the same as the whole "Gaian concept of death" shit people regurgitated some years back.
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>>287074888
And this is her face when squat cowgirl riding you
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Flat is inhuman
There's nothing wrong with killing monsters
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>>287074426
she has the hair that would rival a sheltered japanese princess.
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>>287074594
You saw it literally immediately.
ALL his agents start getting slaughtered and he has very little idea exactly how or why.
But it's because something came out of Flat's corpse. And that something is not very happy.
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>>287074647
Honestly, I'll take it it it makes the rabid saberfags quit seething so hard at the mere mention of Zero.
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>>287075071
He still passes judgement, he does that in his every incarnation in Fate. The fate that he rebelled against was trying keep humanity subservient to divinity.
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>>287074437
He has Kerry's rib bullets?
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>>287074647
Butcher lost
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>>287075060
Removing pubic hair is actually a long-standing Islamic tradition
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>>287073963
But was it REALLY necessary for the third one with the black hair to do THAT pose at the end?
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>>287073739
>True Assassin: This is a bad idea
>Faldeus: this is the best idea
Why does it be like that?
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>>287075126
Don't think so and they wouldn't work since his origin is different anyway, but I haven't read further in the LN
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>richard finally getting serious
>AVALONION playing the background
kinooooooooooooooooooooo

now where is season 2
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>>287075168
>now where is season 2
As soon as Narita writes more, so never
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>>287074437
>>287075126
Nah, it has nothing to do with that. He just cut apart their nervous systems the old fashioned way, with fire and a knife.
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>>287074834
Literally who
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>Wants No Name Assassin in FGO
>Remembers all the NTR that will result with Guda/Faceless Old Men that will result
>Remembers Ankoman still exists
There's the Monkey's Paw.
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>>287075216
Based.

Why was the grass on fire though
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>>287075168
in 2 years when they finish adapting the last few volumes
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>>287075205
>he doesn't know
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>>287074410
At least she is with Uncle Tezca
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bro wtf why didn't the introduce Thia murdering the goons, it would take 10 seconds
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somehow it feels like too much stuff happened for all of it to have been just 2 days but at the same time it feels like nothing happened
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God I hope Dorothea is a sexy loli under this hideous man suit
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>deadnaming a dead apostle
Pottery, it rhymes
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>>287074980
You'll likely have the Mage's Association and the Church begging Arc to render the event of ORT waking up into something "that never happened". That's what Event Storage does.
Depends on if Shiki killed Arc in the timeline otherwise she'll just let humanity get wiped out.
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>>287075319
The Underworld takes place over the course of the third day in Snowfield.
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Fuark... he's definitely getting that avalon ending in the LN isnt he
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>>287074987
Ah yes the guy who was such a bad king that it lead to his subjects begging the gods for help and who abandoned his kingdom for years during having a mid life crisis after his boyfriend died is definitely the best. Definitely. Now be a good boy and go back to watching your wife getting raped by him on your wedding day like the good little cuck that you are.
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I'm sad that Flat died, but at least I can find solace in him and Hansa being able to clown on that dyke Jester one last time.
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>>287075341
I don't think Arcueid's event storage has authority to alter events within the Crystal Valley. So it'd only preserve places ORT has not personally tread upon.
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>>287075249
Fate/strange Fake event
>Richard, Gilgamesh, Enkidu reruns
>Welfare: No Name Assassin

Banner 1:
>5-star: Alcides (Avenger)
>4-star: Hippolyta (Rider)
>3-star: Dumas (Caster)

Banner 2:
>5-star: Pale Rider (Rider, Tsubaki Pseudo-Servant)
>4-star: Prelati (Caster)
>3-star: Dumas (Caster)

This is my prediction.
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>>287075356
Gilgamesh went from absolute shit King to a really good king after character development. However, Archer Gil represents his shit King days.
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>>287075387
Jackbros...
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>>287075387
I'm begging Dumas is a good support.
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>>287075387
>Welfare: No Name Assassin
Seems more like a spot for Sigma rather then Zealot. I really want Ishtar and Huwawa though.
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>>287075354
The only place he belongs is hell.

Even Duryodhana is more salvageable than Richard and it is Duryodhana we are talking about.
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>>287075014
>didn't even wait for her to reciprocate
>just went in and grabbed it

Sasuga, Richard-sama...
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>>287075037
His answer was actually skipped by the anime. He gives his answer to Angra Mainyu. The king is everything and decides everything. Saber and DUDE were arguing backwards so he just laughed
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>>287074594
>all his screens go dark as his agents scream in terror
whatever it will turn out to be in detail, I think his stomach ache got a lot worse
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only one can sit on your face
choose
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>>287075447
Philia Ishtar with Gilgamesh and Enkidu seething art would be funny. Also, Rin Ishtar and Eresh shenanigans.
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>>287075387
Delusional. Even Samurai Remnant didn't get as many spots as this. Enjoy your 3 gacha characters and free event character.
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>>287075447
it's not gonna be sigma because they're not going to spoil shit in the event that hasn't even happened in the novels yet let alone the anime
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>>287075387
I honestly don't think they'll add all of those, at most I can see No Name/Zealot, Alcides and Hippolyta, would waste welfare on Sigma or some shit
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>>287075447
It's extremely uncommon for an event to have three new banners. If you want Ishtar or Huwawa, then two other Servants will have to be sacrificed. Three if you want Sigma. Only summer events get three banners. Basically, at absolute max, there are only up to seven new slots.

In reality, the truly most likely scenario is that there are two new 5-stars, one new 4-star and one welfare.
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>>287073739
>Banquet of Kings
A scene so brutal that it traumatized an entire generation of Seibakeks which eventually necessitated that Narita redeem her by having her fanboy say how great she is in direct opposition to the scene. Even if all it really is is tantamount to drawing Iskandar as the chad and Saber as the basedjak. It truly is the stuff of fucking legend lmao. I wonder just how much internal seethe Takeuchi must feel about it to this day.
Regardless, he has done his best to flatten any analysis of Saber's character throughout FGO's run, so I'd say Takeuchi and Co ended up being fairly successful in trying to lessen the impact of this scene.
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>>287075382
Authorities work on ORT fine. See Tezcatlipoca's Black Sun affecting ORT alongside U-Olga's Tachyon Jail.
Event Storage would be no different. Arc already used it to store all life on the planet bound by gravity, which would include ORT.
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>>287075473
I know, but that anon was talking about the Banquet specifically.
The Zero anime is forever shit for skipping that
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>>287075356
>wife getting raped by him on your wedding day
goyim still repeating early modern english newspaper propaganda to this day
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Es un chanate
Un chocolate
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>>287075518
Actually it's even funnier since Narita's scene isn't the same one as F/Z. Gilgamesh speaks up and he and Iskandar correctly say that Artoria would've just ended up as the Lion King.
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>>287075354
who di he borrow the sword from? the silhouette kinda looked like benkei for the second or so I saw it
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Take a shot every time someone said "Is this what a holy grail war is like" in this entire anime
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>>287075341
Arcuied has no power over ORT, its a planet killer, and its terraforming turns everything it touches into no longer earth. It can change the concept of what it touches into its own domain entirely. You think she's 1000000x above it because you think its a DAA, and Arcuied is above DAA, therefore she must be above it, but its not a DAA in reality. Its a TYPE, its the thing Arcuied wishes she was, she's just a pseudo TYPE at best. Its not just a TYPE but its the thing called the strongest TYPE in the series, among all TYPES in NOTES, ORT was called the ultimate last boss, the worst one. In LB7 you see what happens when ORT and Arcuied collide, it killed her without even noticing she was there.
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>>287075482
I pick blue
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>>287075405
Sure he became a great king later on but that doesn't change the fact that he was a shit king before. "A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good" and Gil has plenty of both. Still among those three I'd rather have Artoria rule over me then the other two especially since my home country is a peaceful place and nowhere near the shithole that was 5th century Britain.
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Can Richard outsimp GAWAIN when it comes to the king?
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>>287075552
The funniest thing is this the most STRANGE and FAKE Holy War of all... besides maybe the Prisma one with the Ainsworths.
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>>287075547
Saber only ended up as the Lion King after losing her humanity to Rhongomyniad.
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>gets shot
>starts monologging and aura farming
Flat deserved to die
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>>287075548
Pelleas
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>>287075603
There was that one bootleg Grail War where only Casters could be summoned.
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>>287075601
How can you make a potato taste badly?

The problem is that all the KotR are boorish simps for Arthuria, there isn't a single one that isn't. They can't even beat each other over who loves her the most.
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>>287075609
It's the logical endpoint of her ideology regardless. Of course without turning divine via an artefact the logical endpoint is cuckoldry and civil war.
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>>287075482
Black hair for me.
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>Excalibur is weaker than E-Ack!!!!!
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>>287075482
Pink
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I wonder how Richard would feel if got summoned in one of those Sub Grail Wars in Apocrypha's timeline.
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>>287075482
I choose Viola.
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seiba being a girl in the first place makes this whole ordeal completely farcical
>no i can't marry someone i have to pretend to be a man
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>>287074469
I mean I'm assuming Faldeus doesn't really care about winning because he's just been watching so far and he didn't shoot Ayaka, what did Flat do that made him so dangerous?
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>>287075580
Saber was such a shit king that her people were easily turned against her despite her mostly making good decisions.
Gil's people stood against the primordial creator to the last man. Artoria never earned that kind of loyalty outside of her circlejerk and even they were unable to actually criticize her in a healthy manner.
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>>287075519
I think ORT is distinctly NOT bound by gravity judging by how much Kukulkan loves floating.
And Tez was working more on the world around himself than on ORT. That ORT would be in the area was just what he knew. If his Authority could just pull ORT forward then he'd be able to skip a lot of steps in his plan, no?
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>>287075518
It does feel like the last 15 years or so have been the story of Takeuchi doing damage control for the banquet scene. The worst part of him must be that even Nasu had to admit to Urobuchi that his original characterization of Saber was an inconsistent mess because he needed to force a teenage romance into the mix.
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What the fuck why.... why why why?? Why is the first death a character I actually like?? I hope Faldeus dies fucking cunt
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>>287075686
Relax, she still had a dick.
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>>287075387
Alcides, Sigma, Prelati, No Name and maybe Alter Ego Gil is all we realistically will get. I doubt the FGO devs will put anymore effort into it then necessary (see FSR)
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>>287075695
he was a small guy
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>Richard has fired 100s of Excalibur and accomplished nothing
>everything saber fires Excalibur, someone dies or the grail is destroyed
Richard really is low tier.
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Reminder that SABER DID NOTHING WRONG it was all Lancelot's, Guinevere's, Mordred's, Agravain's, Gawain's, Merlin's and Galahad's faults.
Lancelot and Gwin made the affair which destroyed the kingdom.
Mordred is the one who led the rebellion.
Agravain is the one who sperged.
Gawain is the one who insisted on killing Lancelot despite him being able to help.
Merlin saw all this and did nothing to stop it.
Galahad literally took the Grail and fucked off instead of restoring Britain's mystery.

Everything here is more damning than anything Artoria did. The King did everything perfectly start to finish.
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>>287074391
This anime unironically stopped making sense when the hospital fight started, if I didn't visit these threads I would miss like half of whats happening.
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>>287075661
Yes, and?
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>>287075467
A man who takes what he wants
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what the fuck happened with the vampire? I couldn't follow shit. They called his boss and he said some mean words to him so he knelt, then they used some magic that finally got to him? was that connected or did they call the gyarupire just for show? didnt Flat trace his main body and somehow guide their attacks to that by himself? watching this weekly makes it really hard to folllow. Tsubaki's world mindfuckery was convoluted enough
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>>287075695
I don't think it's stated in the anime, but Ayaka was under watch from one of Richard's entourage. He wanted to kill one or both for making too many allies too quickly, but settled on Flat.
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Sabers anus
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Franchesca Prelati is such a slutty name
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>>287075739
Richard's Excaliburs are STRANGE and FAKE. They can never measure to the original with it's 10+ seals.
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>>287075709
Completely ignoring the circumstances of both reigns there
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>>287075712
THE GRAIL PLAN I FILED WITH THE AGENCY LISTS MY MEN, DR PRELATI HERE, BUT ONLY ONE OF YOU!
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>>287074987
>a decade of retcons proves that gilkek was right!!
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>>287075751
It was connected but it's not something easy to depict. Basically Jester lost 100 vampire levels because his boss vampire disowned him.
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>>287075718
They're not gonna make EgoGil when he hasn't even gotten an appearance in the novels yet.
It's gonna be focused on the characters from the first season of the anime and seemingly related to the Camelot/Jerusalem singularity.
So, No Name probably as the helper welfare, Prelati because she's living in Chaldea's walls and is the big money character, probably Alcides or Jack.
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>Sonic and the Black Knight has Lamorak in 2 Player Mode
>Tides of Annihilation has Lamorak
Where's Fate Lamorak?
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>>287075647
The situations aren't entirely similar. The reason the Lion King acted the way she did was because she calculated that there was no way to stop Goetia. And in fact, at the time she enacted her plan, she could not have known about Romani and his ring. It blindsided everyone, including Goetia. But basically, everyone who knew about Goetia and his plan basically concluded that he couldn't be stopped. Everyone who knew what was going on beyond that (i.e., Marisbury's plan) understood that even if Goetia was stopped, there was something even worse beyond the horizon.

The only individual who had some understanding of the situation and didn't lose hope was Saber Alter in Singularity F.
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>>287075777
Do you feel in charge?
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>>287075741
>appoint spergs, retards and traitors in your highest positions
>not at fault though :^)
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>>287075609
Lion King is the natural outcome to Saber's ideals
The perfect robotic ideal perfect king that acts as a monolith, the omega perfect divine king that is close to no one, the inhuman perfect king, the ideal divine perfect inhuman king. The king with no flaws, the king with no humanity, the king who wrapped herself up in her perfection, the king who would be understood by no one.
Its what she tried to be, its what people accused her of being, the ideal inhuman king.

Which is the entire reason Lion King is meaningful, its everything Saber wishes she was in the worst ways, and it shows how her ideals kinda suck. Because this is the end result of her ideal. This is unquestionably what she was striving for as a king, the eternally distant and eternally correct perfect king.
And we know this is still ultimately what she believes in deep down, since Saber Alter in Shinjuku identified with Lion King and saw her choices as ultimately correct. Saber if given the choice to think over Lion King's choices, will call it inhuman at first, but will ultimately still call it correct, which is the same thing all the KotR also did when forced to choose. They may pretend to dislike her, but they still agree with her deep down.

Reason why Camelot and Babylon were good is because the re-examined the best and worst part of Saber and Gilgamesh characters, and also made you think about them from the other side. The best and worst parts of their ideals.
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the fact even book writers can be heroes (obvious self fellating from nasu and narita) proves all three of them wrong. you don't need to do anything impressive in your lifetime. future grail wars will be fought by youtubers with large viewcounts.
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>>287075645
But we are talking about simpness, Gawain and Lancelot caused Camelot to fall over Lancelot fucking over the King and GAWAIN, ABSOLUTELY not letting it go.

Gawain would also never betray his King. They even killed Richard I in Jerusalem together.
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>>287075822
They weren't debating about what it means to be a hero, but what it means to be a king.
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>>287073963
look at all those 2Bs...
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>>287075801
Yes, the Lion King was a pathetic loser who gave up, what of it? It gets directly contrasted in the following singularity by a kingdom of gigachads who never gave up because giving up is for pussies and they were right. Yet another indictment on a shit king.
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I'm going to miss hearing the OP and ED every week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHNXbpFZIPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHlLzmlc69I
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Will Shirou adopt Sigma?
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>>287075822
>Kizuna AI Servant
>Annoying Orange Servant
We're doomed.
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>>287075741
Everyone was a fucking retard INCLUDING the king. How is this so hard for people to wrap their heads around?
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>>287075835
same thing. a pseudo historic mythological figure as a personification of the will of a peoples
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>>287075571
If ORT's Reality Marble stopped it from being affected by systems of the planet, then ORT wouldn't be in a prunned event along with the rest of LB7. Since it would not be affected by the prunning phenomenon.
>its a planet killer
ORT doesn't kill planets, and it has zero track record killing planets that have the means to fight back.
>and its terraforming turns everything it touches into no longer earth.
And Arcueid can turn everything into Earth too. The Inner Sea itself is her Reality Marble.
>its a TYPE, its the thing Arcuied wishes she was
Wrong. Arcueid was born as the planet's brain and she has all the Authority associated with it. This is directly stated in Katatsuki Kouhon.
>Its not just a TYPE but its the thing called the strongest TYPE in the series
This is headcanon.
>among all TYPES in NOTES, ORT was called the ultimate last boss
ORT is never once compared to other Types in Notes. It's merely stated to be a secret boss type entity in general. But guess what? Archetype Earth is directly stated to be invincible and something you cannot ever defeat no matter what because she is nature itself given shape. She is not even a secret boss, she is beyond that, an absolute wall you're not meant to ever defeat.
>In LB7 you see what happens when ORT and Arcuied collide
Ixquic is powerless and had zero agency over Mictlan since Kukulcan took most of it's functions.

There is a reason Nasu explicitly stated Arcueid is the strongest in the setting of Tsukihime and not ORT.
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>>287075817
From the perspective of humanity, a wholly selfless absolute authority who only does what's best for everyone is arguably better than the clusterfuck of incompetence we have going now across the globe. The reason national leaders suck is because they're human. They're corrupt, stupid, greedy and biased.
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>>287075822
>Caster BEAST
Enjoy.
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>>287074727
you don't know much about greeks, do you?
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>>287075709
>Gil's people stood against the primordial creator to the last man
Yeah because they would have died either way. Plus those very same people begged the gods for help against their shit king. Such amazing loyalty.
>criticize her in a healthy manner.
We've seen how Gil handles criticism. Either he kills you for daring to lecture him or he laughs it off, says "Yeah so?" and keeps going without changing anything. There is no point in arguing with someone like that just like there is no point in arguing with a god.
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>You see the king has no responsibility with how the kingdom turns out, the king has no authority obviously, so its not their fault if they don't get people under control or act ignorant about their own situation. Its not the king's job to rule or make sure things work out. Its never the king's responsibility, nothing can ever be their responsibility. Yes they desire that power, and control, but they shouldn't also be saddled with responsibility for the outcome. That's unfair.
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>>287075862
Why are you acting like he's some sort of authority? He was worse than most of his peers. His criticism rings hollow when he himself was a worthless man with worthless intents and desires. He's just bitter because he knows that, because he hates himself for his own flaws.
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>>287075857
I liked the ED more than the OP, it's just really fucking comfy for some reason. Everyone having a laugh, even if it's out of character. Funnier that it's it makes everything feel like it's in Vegas.
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>>287075710
ORT is affected by gravity, if it wasn't then ORT would be floating and reaching space. Mages can fly if they're decent but that doesn't mean they're unaffected by gravity and not bound by it.
And Tezca definitely affected ORT since ORT woke up in Tezca's future. It had awoken but returned to being asleep once Tezca ceased applying his NP.
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>>287075831
Gawain was mad because Lancelot needlessly killed all of his siblings in a sperg fit.
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>>287075900
>We've seen how Gil handles criticism.
Siduri? The one who berated him once he returned from his exile and he listened to and made his top advisor?
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>>287075817
Literally half the Knights rebelled against the Lion King and even Lancelot who agreed with her at the start makes a loud statement that his one true king is the King of Knights, not the Lion King.
The latter is Saber's ideal, taken to the ultimate extreem, but it's not something she agrees with. Not at all, actually.
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>>287075831
>They even killed Richard I in Jerusalem together.
Its someone that called themselves Richard, but the Knights did not believe it to be the actual Richard
Also they only killed him by sacrificing Gareth
Gawain saw it too dangerous to fight him directly, he said in a direct fight with him at least half of them would die.
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>Lamorak was essentially jumped by Gawain and his siblings
BRING HIM TO FGO!
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>>287075936
>needlessly
You have no honor.
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>can you guys pause this war? I need to time travel to the future to have sex with two japanese teenagers and then i'll come back and die
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>>287075868
>There is a reason Nasu explicitly stated Arcueid is the strongest in the setting of Tsukihime and not ORT.
Clarification: He says that Arcueid is the strongest person. ORT is not regarded as a person, more like a phenomena.
Comparing the two is pointless. It's stated numerous times that nothing born of Earth can defeat ORT, so long as the battlefield is Earth ORT cannot lose, only ORT can defeat ORT, etc. etc.
Arcueid is in the same boat here in the end.
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>>287074923
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>>287075973
ArcSys Fighting Game Lobby Ayaka and Richard...
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>>287075904
Kay was originally one of the best or the best knights in the original versions of the story. They rewrote him to be nothing special only later on when they created Lancelot
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>King Hassan Lily has Shiki Tohno's remake VA
Nasu, what is your endgame?
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>>287075859
Sigma is older then Shirou and he will take care of Tsubaki once all of this is over
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>>287075980
He crushed Gareth's skull for literally no reason other than he was mad. There's no excusing Lancelot killing his fellow knights.
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>>287075904
Dude I'm saying everyone's at fault, I'm not arbitrarily excluding Kay just because I used a pic of him. I don't need to use him as an authority because we've all seen the events themselves. Holy shit
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first thing Saber does in FSN is LOSE to Lancer btw
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>Waver's whole class is involved in the HGW
>Shirou is busy sniping people in the middle east with arrows
He missed a lot of fun.
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>>287075387
Dumas has to be a 2-star Caster to pair him up with Hans and Shakes.
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Perfect kings don't lose their kingdoms or have civil wars, but somehow this is an impossible concept for Nasu to grasp.
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>>287075994
Except that Camazotz defeated ORT, straight up. Statements mean little.
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>casually mindbreaks tertiaries for 20 years
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>>287075952
It kinda is, Lion King will always be Saber's ultimate ideal, just like Archer is Shirou's ultimate ideal, which is the entire reason Archer's words hurt Shirou, because all their words are correct and cutting. Shirou understands Archer's words on a deep level, this IS what he wanted to be, and he realizes how broken and hollow it is. Just like how Saber understands Lion King is who she wanted to be, only to see how inhuman it is. The type of king she wished to become if it was made into reality, was not a good one. To become perfect without humanity is ultimately a bad thing.
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>>287075980
He killed both of Gawain's siblings (who were unarmed at that time) in a mad rush after his affair was made public. Honestly I have no idea how the fuck anyone tolerates Lacalot's presence after pulling that kind of crap.
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>>287076063
Shirou without Avalon would've been instagibbed in the temple raid, he really has no place there
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>>287076075
This anon is canonically dumber than Richard
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>>287076081
The Malla, not born of Earth, defeated ORT. Camazotz helped.
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>>287075994
>Clarification: He says that Arcueid is the strongest person. ORT is not regarded as a person, more like a phenomena.
He says the strongest being/existence. It's very clear cut:
>・I want to portray this sequence (Arc VS Roa), up until the last moment, to the best of my ability. I’ll really drive home her being the strongest being in the setting of Tsukihime and Mahoutsukai no Yoru.
>It's stated numerous times that nothing born of Earth can defeat ORT
This quote comes from FGO where Arcueid doesn't exist. This is why Nasu said strongest in Tsukihime and Mahoyo, because she has no meaningful presence in FGO outside crossovers. Arcueid is also partly alien since half of her Authority comes from Crimson Moon and Principles are an alien concept in general.
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>>287075859
Sigma is like 35
He's just a midget due to all the drugs he takes

He's literally just Kiritsugu who looks like a child on the outside.
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>>287075822
influencers will never be servants for a long list of reasons
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>>287076107
How can someone who makes imperfect decisions be perfect?
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Alright, this was hands down the worst Fate I've ever watched. Almost the entire cast was either boring, annoying or both. They made everything so unnecessarily pompous and theatrical that it felt like a Fate parody instead of an actual story, doesn't help that it relies so much on other works instead of doing its' own thing.
DEEN UBW movie was a terrible adaptation, but this feels like it's more or less a proper one, but the OG is so shit that there's no redeeming it. I liked Narita's narration in Baccano, Durara was questionable, SF is easily the worst out of three.
The state of these threads kinda confirm for me that nu-TM isn't something I should engage with. Powerlevel faggotry has always been a staple for TM threads, sure, but not to this extent.
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what if you explained to a saberfag that you can just jack off to porn of a character and you don't have to pretend they're good or well written just because you want to have sex with her
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>>287076108
Other way around. Camazotz defeated ORT and Malla helped keep ORT asleep after Camazotz ripped out it's heart.
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>>287076132
>le nu-TM
>Powerlevel faggotry has always been a staple for TM threads, sure, but not to this extent.
Secondary
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>>287076103
If Shirou met Dumas, he might been able to pull a John Wingard. He'd fucked against Jester though.
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>>287074346
It's always funny in a magical setting when they pull out guns and start killing.
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>>287076126
instead they'll just take some historical figure and make them into an instagram influencer to be le quirky
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>>287076132
cool blog
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>>287074407
Because she's the closest thing to Ciel
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>>287076131
The reason the civil war happened was because Britain was more or less at the end of its rope. Regardless of what she did, Saber couldn't improve the soil quality or prevent invaders from invading.
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>Arcfag is back
LIMITLESS
ORT solos TsukiR Arc
Fact
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>>287074021
Brown Muzan
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>>287076094
There's a key difference. Saber became king, because she wanted to protect the ordinary, simple people living in the small villages where she lived.
The same people Lion King would ultimately destroy without a second thought, since they're not perfect, immaculate human souls.
The Lion King is her ideal taken to a logical extreme, but it's not representative of King Arthur at all. Her most loyal knight openly rebelling against her is perfect proof
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>>287076216
Okay, and? Still imperfect. A perfect king doesn't lose their kingdom.
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>>287076216
>magic can send you thousand years in the future to japan but it cant improve soil quality
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>>287076094
>To become perfect without humanity is ultimately a bad thing
NTA but why? Among all the rules in FGO the Lion King would be the best choice to be ruled by no?
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>>287076185
Just remembered both Fate/Zero and Madoka Magica were written by Urobuchi. Both Kiritusgu use modern weapons over magical shit.
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>>287075216
>“I’ve blocked their means to recover. Given the quality of their Magic Crest, they should
remain in this state for half a month.”
They were Mr. and Mrs. Kuruoka, their arms and legs numbed and the majority of their
Magic Circuits burned out using a specialized Mystic Code.

was it a special knife mystic code?
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>>287074221
>>287074203
Kino
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>>287076216
Also the mystery, the metaphysical stuff that kept everything together including the populace not being retarded, was fading fast. People were less and less able to see and interact with magical things because the Light at the End of the World was fading. That's why Saber wanted the True Holy Grail, because it was a mystery that would've substituted the fading mystery of Britain.
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>>287076236
>lancelot
>most loyal
kek
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>>287075006
biggy big.
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Where would you put Fate/Strange Fake season 1?
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>>287074985
Maybe her learned to pick up her pussy scent in a more convenient fashion
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>>287076259
>>287076185
Meant both Kiritsugu and Homura.
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>>287076270
If you need someone to tell you your opinion then you don't have an opinion
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anons desperately trying to spin some good writing out of the most contrived philosophical dilemmas in fiction
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>>287076245
>gave up like a pussy instead of fighting to the end
no, lion king is one of the worst leaders in the entire franchise
to be human is to defy the impossible, and it turns out that defying the impossible is what won in the end. so she was incorrect.
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>>287076240
You keep focusing on the word "perfect", while completely ignoring all context like some retard for some reason.
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>>287076259
Nasu created Kiritsugu.
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>>287075712
His introduction to Ayaka fell somewhat flat.
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>>287076152
Saber is just amwf propaganda
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>>287076270
I wouldn't put any nasuverse entry on the kino tier except maybe Illya doujins
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Lancelotkeks begone
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>>287076270
It's good however it not being as cohesive as the others prevent it from being great
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>>287076266
Talking about Bedivere
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>>287076167
Everything after FGO started is nu-TM. This is just a stated fact.
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>>287076270
Secondarypilled post
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>>287076298
Well yes, she's called "perfect" in the story despite blatantly not being so. Context doesn't matter, I'm not trying to debate whether she was a good king of bad king in context. A perfect being doesn't make mistakes unless we're arguing that a cuckoldry civil war was her intention in which case good job I guess.
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>>287074255
Not a trace of Takeuchi's art left on the right.
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>>287076270
I'm still digesting, but I'd at least put it at Great so far.
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>>287076226
>It's that disingenuous ORTfag again
You know just as well as I do I have a point. The small and heavy is the strongest, this is established in TsukiR. And Arc's Principle takes small and heavy to the logical extreme.
Unfortunately no one can refute that, so you'll continue to cling to statements and hype associated with ORT, to make sure you can convince yourself. But I promise you, deep down you know it's not true.
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>>287076298
Because in FSN she was merely a good king, she was not treated as perfect. You notice how no one hates her showing in Zero because she was never treated as flawless, she was treated as a character with flaws.

From Garden of Avalon onward she was a perfect and flawless king in all ways who made every correct choice and was flawless in all ways
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>>287076304
I know.
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>>287076316
Nice try Gawainkek but that's chess they're talking about. Lancelot may be a retard but he's still the strongest.
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>>287076296
No Chladea was just lucky God made sure fuck over Goetia's plan. Romani being Solomon is the only reason they succeed not the "Indomitable Human Spirit" or some other nonsense like that.
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>>287076389
You make your own luck. You don't get lucky if you give up and suicide like the Lion King. She's just a pathetic loser.
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>>287076357
>>287076269
Where's the proof that her boobs are that big?
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fuck man this scene made me tear up a bit

tsubaki is too pure for this world
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>>287076359
Kukulkan is small and heavy so it's a possibility for ORT to take. Starcell ORT is also small and probably heavy.
Also please stop accusing anyone of "clinging to statements" when you take that single line as infallible gospel and not a general analysis, while brushing aside other statements like "ORT cannot lose so long as the battlefield is earth".
The truth of the matter I would think is that Nasu likes Arcueid more and ORT's threat as an insurmountable foe would be diminished of Arc could stand against it. So Nasu doesn't want to just out and out say Arc is as doomed as the rest. Narratively speaking they're on the same side anyway, and have no cause to every contest each other.
After all: if ORT activates, then the world commanded it to, and Arc is overruled by her overself.
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>>287076341
She was "perfect" in terms of endurance and selflessness. King Arthur was basically the only king who did literally nothing for her own sake and only thought of the people. She made the best decisions possible with the resources at hand. She was basically a machine whose sole purpose and programming was geared entirely towards doing everything possible for the sake of the people.

It was just impossible to save the kingdom at the time. In order to save the kingdom, you didn't need a machine with superior decision-making and resource management. You needed a miracle cup that could deus ex machina all the bad shit away while also improving everything tenfold. Nothing short of a Holy Grail could have saved the kingdom. It was fucked.
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>>287076406
Alright then have Romani died in the prologue of Part 1. How is Chladea going to "make their own luck" then?
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>>287076341
Saber is called the ideal king (not perfect) because she always made the objectively best decision in times of war and as an adjudicator. Said decisions involved tons of sacrifices, which she did without batting an eye, which freaked people out, but ultimattely led to the best possible result for the country, so the same people couldn't even say anything as a counter-argument
>Context doesn't matter
Context is everything actually, and it's pretty apparent you've never actually read anything on the matter
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>>287076382
>His son is better than him at all levels

Remove lancelotness from a person and he improves.

Imagine being like that
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>>287076465
Bu that didn't happen. Because they didn't stop fighting like one loser jobber. If they acted like the Lion King they would've all died.
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>>287076305
I wish for Prelati to rape you until the end of time, dragon whore.
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>>287076367
You've read neither F/SN, nor Garden of Avalon. The latter never treats her as flawless, quite the opposite it notes her never noticing how the ordinary people couldn't continue living in suffering like she could, as a clear fault
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>>287076492
She was a god after all. Gods tend to fall under two categories: excessively rationale or completely irrational.
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>the shot of Pale Rider's reflection off the building windows as he approaches Saber

ABSOLUTE fucking CINEMA
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>>287076462
>It was just impossible to save the kingdom at the time.
That's fine, it just means she isn't perfect since she's unable to do so.
>>287076473
My ideal king is a perfect king. I don't see why it wouldn't be anyone elses, surely no one wants a fuckup leader.
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>>287076553
Your post reads like one of those retard feudal lords, that rebelled alongside Mordred, lmao
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>>287076328
Everything after KnK is le nu-TM, le secondary.
DDD is horrible btw. Nothing but epic fights between mutants in every chapter. Peak le nu-TM powerlevel slop. No thought-provoking themes, no deep characters, no plot.
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Even Jesus couldn't end famine. Sure he could make bread and fish, but it's not as if he ever just magicked the problems of his era away. Magic and divinity can't actually solve anything.
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>>287076438
The only scene in this show that was worth crying for was when my hero Gilgamesh was temporarily defeated in a dishonorable sneak attack
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>>287076544
I loved that too.
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>>287076600
Jesus is omnipotent, he could do it if he wanted to. He doesn't do it because he's evil.
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>>287076412
They're not
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>>287075921
Yeah the ED is great, gonna be hard to top this in the next season
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Neither of these outfits has showed up yet
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>>287076585
>appoints lords that rebel
sounds like an imperfect decision to me
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>Richard confirmed weak and not a true king
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>>287076655
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>>287076359
ORT activates his RM and GG. Arc can't use her powers. He's star eater for a reason. Cope.
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>>287076627
By God she is a stick
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>>287076627
wednesday acute
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>>287076492
"Well we tried our best" is the only thing Chaldea could have said for themselves if it weren't for Romani. All that hard work, effort and determination would have been worthless if that unlikely silver bullet didn't exist. Simply saying that "Well it did exist so there is no point in thinking about what ifs" won't change the fact that the only reason them not giving up was worth it in the end was because of dumb luck.
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>Fate thread
>Powerlevel fags bitching about something completely unrelated to the ongoing anime
Every time.
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Why is death a skeleton girl?
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>>287076698
M-Mashallah...
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who is sir van fem is that a tsukihime thing
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Is Yuri haram?
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>>287076746
>Fate thread
>not being powerlevelGOD
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>>287076443
>Kukulkan is small and heavy so it's a possibility for ORT to take. Starcell ORT is also small and probably heavy.
Sure, they are probably small and heavy. Except Arc took it to it's logical extreme hence why it's stated it reached the planck scale. She is quite literally the strongest of the strongest category.
>while brushing aside other statements like "ORT cannot lose so long as the battlefield is earth".
You have no right to criticize me on this when ORT is never stated to be invincible on Earth, the actual statement is that "ORT has no weaknesses as long as the battlefield is Earth". This means ORT must be defeated through raw force, rather than gimmicks. The actual line just says: 地球で戦うかぎり弱点はない、とされる。
>and ORT's threat as an insurmountable foe would be diminished of Arc could stand against it.
My point was that Event Storage can just render the event of ORT waking up something that never happened. So it doesn't count as a defeat against ORT much like Tezca's Black Sun would. I do agree they're not likely to fight.
>After all: if ORT activates, then the world commanded it to, and Arc is overruled by her overself.
Arcueid's will is the World's will, this is something she herself stated.
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I hope these threads survive long enough for vol 10 to come out
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>>287076655
>FAK
>FAT
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>>287076750
He can just recreate everything associated with death or underworlds within the RM. Same reason he could recreate Cerberus.
So he recreated a bunch of giant evil skeleton monsters

He can perfectly recreate an apocalypse with his NP based on his master's ideas of it, but Tsubaki has no concept of the apocyplse so he can't really recreate it. So he's just creating a bunch of things associated with death and throwing them at his enemies.
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>>287076740
It worked out because they kept trying. Maybe it wouldn't have, but the only way to know is to actually try. Lion King didn't try, she gave up because she's identical to a basement dwelling loser who never tried to change their life.
The only way to succeed at anything is to try. I can understand this is a hard thing to grasp for the average 4chan user.
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Could you beat ORT by punching him REALLY REALLY REALLY hard ?
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>>287073963
The details if you go frame by frame on this are amazing. Look at how much they spread their legs too. Top sluts.
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>>287076750
They had to make them look like the FGO mobs so they can use them as enemies in the collab
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>>287076588
FGO ate up and infected every other stuff, so yes it's very different from any previous work.
>Peak le nu-TM powerlevel slop
Please, nothing from DDD comes even close to the scale and absurdity of current TM
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>>287076750
the incarnation of death can only make unga bunga monsters. the lancelot jet spammer is right in the sense that an f-15 fighter is stronger than any heroic jobber
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>>287076750
Tsubaki is so innocent that she nerfs pale rider to throwing halloween decorations at people instead of a real apocalypse
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>>287076811
Still inferiof to a Beast.
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>unironic FGO selfinserter raging in the thread
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>>287076843
That's the only way to. Do some bullshit magic gimmick and it goes "cool, let me try" and bullshit magics right back at you.
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Halfway point in the series so this is the moment when characters start dying

Flat, dead
Tsubaki, dead
Pale Rider, dead
Jack the Ripper, dead
Tsubaki's parents, dead
All of Faldeus henchmen, dead
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>>287076800
>Arcueid's will is the World's will, this is something she herself stated.
And ORT stated the only thing that defeat ORT is ORT.
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>>287076296
NTA but isn't the whole point of Tsukihime that dying in inevitable and that you should just accept it? That goes against that whole "fighting against impossible odds" theme that FGO seems to have
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>>287076883
Obviously. It'd take his brothers to truly end the world.
Which is probably what Enkidu was talking about when he said "if the curse of death mixed with the mud then the world may be in trouble".
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>>287076680
Arc can override Crystal Valley with her own Reality Marble; the planet's Inner Sea. She quite literally summons this as her NP in FGO and she summons it in her sleep in MBAA.
>star eater
Kiara is also called the same. Doesn't mean she beats Arcueid. ORT never eats planets without a directive anyway. It has the potential to eat one, but so does Arcueid if she actually tried.
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>>287076925
None of those are dead btw
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>>287076932
Nasu is the usual cuck who thinks life only has meaning if you die, so sort of. He believes that humanity should never stop trying but he also thinks individuals should accept their limits and become salarymen. Usual incoherent babble from a nip really.
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>>287075645
Well there was Kay for that.
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>an den naruto used da dragon bals and his poer was more strongerer
so this... is the power... of vn larper discussions...
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>>287076925
>Tsubaki, dead
>Pale Rider, dead
NO! They're not dead! They just aren't!
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>>287076973
Flat and Jack are dead until proven otherwise, Faldeus's squad of random jobbers is dead.
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>>287076957
We have literally never seen what happens when someone tried to override a world texture with another world texture anon, it just hasn't happened, only Nasu would be able to say where it goes.
For all we know they merge and we get Crystal Millennium Palace.
Also Heaven's Hole Kiara should be a deadly threat against Arc if she has learned of pleasure (sucked Roa's blood and had sex with Shiki).
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fate would be way better if saber was male but nothing else changed and shirou still had to have sex with him
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>>287076957
She can't, as stated by Arc herself. A pseudo type can't overrule a true TYPE, just like a planet can't overcome a planet killer. ORT is a star killer
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>>287076926
Camazotz defeated ORT.
In context Kukulcan was just talking about the possible options they had at the time. It's not an absolute statement.
>Did you always have a laid-out scheme on how to defeat ORT?
>Nasu: I did. After how much he's played up, I believe it was unconvincing for a human to defeat ORT, so upon thinking about how to beat him, my conclusion is that only ORT could do it.
>I couldn't imagine how you could defeat a being described in RPG terms as "the secret boss stronger than the final boss", but seeing that, it made a lot of sense to me.
>Nasu: Monsters are monsters because humans can't beat them. That thought begs the question: "What about Camazotz, who defeated ORT once?", but well, he's just a tremendous guy (laughs).
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>>287076900
>"nice martial art, lemme have a go"
>does it a few orders better than you
>"neat, still sucks tho"
ORT is literally Yujiro
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>>287077057
Arc would be safe against Kiara since she's most dangerous against intelligent characters
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>>287076784
muslim can't be yori
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>>287076075
>Perfect king
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>>287077157
Not perfect either, but possibly the best king.
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>>287077154
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>>287077209
HERESY ! BLASPHEMY !
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>>287077057
No reason they would work differently than normal RM vs normal RM:
>Q: There are multiple characters with Reality Marbles in FGO. What happens if they use them at the same time?
>Nasu: If the opponent’s output is higher, a Reality Marble can’t be used. If both are equal and use them at the same time, I think the two worlds would resist each other. As the RM does not move from the position it is used (does not move with the user), the users have to decide whether to draw the opponent in, step into the opponent’s world, or just wait until both RMs die out.
>Also Heaven's Hole Kiara should be a deadly threat against Arc if she has learned of pleasure (sucked Roa's blood and had sex with Shiki).
Kiara still has to deal damage with her NP which deals damage based on intellect. It isn't a one-shot even against CCC's playable Servants.
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sex with tine and tsubaki
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>I see. I have been forsaken...?
>...now we match, my beloved Assassin!
CHAD
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>>287077244
If you don't make her cum three times you're dead on the spot.
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>>287077067
>She can't, as stated by Arc herself. A pseudo type can't overrule a true TYPE
You pulled this out of your ass bro. And Arc is not a pseudo-type. She is literally the planet's soul that existed before the planet's formation and gained a body based on one of the prime species. This makes her the Ultimate One. The process for the birth of Ultimate Ones is directly stated by Arc herself in OC3.
>ORT is a star killer
Star just refers to hoshi/星 which refers to all light-emitting heavenly bodies.
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Why didn't he put up a barrier after being shot?
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>>287073862
why did he get killed?
can someone spoil me on why?
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>Flat thought he was the Waver of this anime
>In the end he was the Ryuunosuke
>Dies early on, and spends his last minutes musing about something stupid while looking at his blood before getting shot again
Ironic
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>>287077356
Somebody once told me that bane was gonna troll me
i ain't the biggest guy in the grail
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>>287076932
Tsukihime is all about living in the moment because you will die someday. Shiki’s whole philosophy is built on the idea that life is pointless, so that’s why you should enjoy every moment. That contrasts Roa who wants eternity and thinks (his) life should never end.

Shiki technically lived his whole life fighting against impossible odds with his eyes and fucked up body, so it still carries that philosophy. A lot of characters in Tsukihime are fighting against their inner natures, but still want to live happy lives regardless of the chances. So those themes are still there, but much more subtle compared to FGO that likes to be over-the-top and in your face with those ideas.
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>>287073862
>we barely got to know him in the anime and he's already dead
Tell me LNfags, do we find more stuff about in the future at least?
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>>287076855
>Please, nothing from DDD comes even close to the scale and absurdity of current TM
Lol did you even read DDD shit le nu-TM le secondary le old bettah?
Fomalhaut is so fast he can run away from epicenter of explosion.
Strong boss girl Tomato (dual wielding Ebony/Ivory from DMC btw) kicked furniture Kanata, the immortal loli in wedding dress, threw at her.
One of the plot point of DDD was about how Kanata destroyed entire universes by punching them.
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>>287077406
He's replaced by another character from whom we learn more about Flat and the Escardos in general, yes. His brother Thia.. who has been by his side all along.
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>>287077406
We do. It's the backstory to one of the first things that'll happen once season 2 starts.
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Fuck Rin
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>>287077428
who's the girl on the right?
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>>287077480
Shirou...
Shinji...
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>>287077490
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>>287077328
>Star just refers to hoshi/星 which refers to all light-emitting heavenly bodies.
HOLY COPE
Arcfag is even more delusional than Cielfag LMAO
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>>287077490
Hakuno from Fate/Extra.
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>>287077490
Francis Xavier
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>>287077428
>>287077512
>>287077538
Record is never coming out, is it?
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The person who created this really wasn't straying from the truth...
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>urobuchi's writing is more relevant to the main character's inner turmoil than all of fsn
KEK NASUSISTERS
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>>287077573
>it was delayed again
Yep
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Crazy to think that the 10 year old girl has a stronger moral compass than Sakura.
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>The Conflicts on Venezuela, Iran, Ukraine, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Haiti, Palestine...
>The Louvre thief
the last step is manipulating the leylines which causes weird climates events and natural disasters, (((they))) are to summon War Rider as a servant.
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>>287077582
I say this
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If assassin just loved jester back none of this would he happening
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>>287077620
you were warned blood traitor
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>>287077599
Tsubaki was in a coma. It's not like she was jaded from 10 years of Worm Rape since age 6.
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>>287077599
Tsubaki wouldn't if she had a decade of worm rape
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>>287077620
Finally.
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>>287077520
Please show me a single instance in all of Type Moon works where 星 is used to refer to the exclusive a star like the sun.
It also means nothing because Earth is an extremely exceptional planet given it did shit like repel Sefar.
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>>287076957
>Arc can <headcanon>
you lost
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>>287073739
People said no one dies in this
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Guys I can defeat ORT since that victory was promised to me 3000 years ago
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>>287077713
Asclepius and Orion are both servants so she could be too, but, almost definitely not gonna get promoted to a real Rider anytime soon. She'd look different than her shadow anyway.
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>>287077737
Based jinxer
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>>287077741
shut the FUCK up Solomon you don't exist anymore
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>>287077677
>"What in Heaven's name have you done?"
>"I answer the call."
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>>287076957
In Melty Blood white Len cuts off Arc's connection to the planet with her Reality Marble and defeats.
Now imagine if that was ORT and not fucking white Len. Arc is getting destroyed.
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>>287077737
No one important, so Tsubaki parents do not count
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>>287077803
uhhh did you miss flat getting shot in the fucking head?
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>>287076465
Romani wouldn't have died but he would have been forced to reveal himself earlier while dying to save himself which would have meant that Lev would have found out Solomon's true identity earlier which migjtht have led to either a civil war within the demon pillar ranks or cold war with Chaldea where the demon pillars needed to find out more
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>>287077737
Literally the only person who died is Flat. everyone else is just neutralized but still alive
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It's funny how the whole of F/SN took place over four days
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>>287077821
He'll be fine
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>>287077858
Anon, F/SN takes place over 14 to 16 days depending on the route.
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Can Flat be revived or is he dead for real?
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You know Arcfag is coping hard when he's trying his gaslighting about kanjis. He's EOP btw.
ORT won.
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>was winning so hard
>tired of winning
>didn't want to pwn a bunch of noobs anymore
>quits the low level lobby
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>>287077858
One time I spent 22hrs awake days are truly long and you could do a lot of things in that time.
Sex with No Name Assassin
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American Sakura, dead
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>>287077707
>headcanon
Nope. That's how two Reality Marbles interact with each other. See>>287077232
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>>287074834
Couldn't even kill a Japanese warlord and got tortured and executed brutally. KEK LMAO.
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The three protagonists are supposed to be Ayaka, Sigma, and Flat
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>>287077932
Crystal Valley isn't a Reality Marble, it's a terraforming effect. It's closer to Blut die Schwester than it is Millennium Castle Brunestud.
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>>287077905
It's Flat's contract with Jack, so since Jack isn't back at the Throne Flat isn't dead.
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>>287077791
Arcueid quite literally allows White Len to deploy her RM and Nasu explicitly stated Arc wasn't taking her seriously: https://youtu.be/YL6bqVSZKGk?si=OcXdP4PVAtN68Qxt&t=1426
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Lotta things got removed from the adaption that would "be harder to animate"
I think After flat got shot the first time Jack was supposed to transform to try to protect him, but there were multiple snipers hitting him from different angles, Jack couldn't adjust quick enough.
Instead they just made it seem like Jack was negligent
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>>287078036
This.
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>>287078056
Exactly, now image it's ORT who Arc couldn't overpower. It would be a massacre.
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>>287078036
That's my favorite Yugioh arc.
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>>287078110
I recognize this reference.
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>Jack the Ripper
>Isn't manifested as multiple people like Watcher
>Watcher
>Is actually a whale, doesn't transform into a watch to stay hidden from others
I think they got these two characters backwards.
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>>287077934
Shut up nobunagakek, this is a Toyotomi Hideyoshi aligned board
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>>287078036
It's directly stated to be similar in function to a Reality Marble. So this is arguing semantics at this point.
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>>287077538
what would their child be like?
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Probably 90% of the "small dialogue" that makes characters feel more human gets removed, now that I really look at it
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>>287073963
woodberry
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>>287078156
There are numerous differences. Crystal Valley overwrites, and perhaps more importantly, it's not just some effect that stops and ends. The word Nasu used was it's more like paint, even if ORT leaves or dies, the stuff it changed isn't painted back.
You got to see this in LB7 as it climbed out of Mictlan and everywhere it went is crystallized in its wake, even though ORT left the area. A staining of world order that just keeps spreading. Reality Marbles don't do that.
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>>287076164
Defeat is relative. He made it inactive for a little bit of time and almost died despite his immortality. Malla is what kept if from getting back up to finish the job any time soon.
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Can I just say this was the greatest Fate spin-off ever
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>>287077932
>That's how two Reality Marbles interact with each other.
Did nasu rip off domain clashes from juju kaisen?
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>>287078094
If you pit a regular underpowered Arcueid like the one in the White Len scenario against a fully powered ORT, then yes, Arc would be physically destroyed. Although the Luminary is a thing so she can easily reform herself in a stronger vessel.
But how is that a fair fight? The opposite of that scenario would be Arc manifesting as Archetype Earth from the Inner Sea with her vessel fully adjusted to annihilate ORT while ORT itself is on the verge of waking up.
Circumstances matter, and you only look at the most beneficial circumstances for ORT.
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solos your entire HGW
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Not showing off Richard's team was a big minus.
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>>287078254
Gege is a Fate fan, I don't think he'd deny it if you accused him of where he got his idea for domain expansion from.
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>>287078288
Olga... I AM STUUUUUCK, I DONT WANT TO FIGHT FOR BADGES AGAINNN
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>>287078288
Can't survive a single Excaliblast
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>Suddenly remembers the day you were born
I'm not sure most people can do that, to be honest
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>>287078236
>even if ORT leaves or dies, the stuff it changed isn't painted back.
This is proven wrong in LB7 when Kukulcan killed ORT. But yeah, ORT's Crystal Valley is more similar to DA's Principles than RMs. But Arc can deal with those types too.
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>>287078288
Cute.
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>>287078288
God this outfit looks so dumb
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>>287078288
And my heart.
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>>287074781
it's funny because Bazdilot's CSes forced him to confront all kinds of horrible things about his past which gave the grail mud an opening to corrupt him.
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>>287078358
Kukulkan detonated the entirety of Mictlan with her supernova. The entire place was blasted clean. Nothing was left, it became a gaping hole in the planet.
Frankly, I'm not actually sure how she spared Novum Chaldea of the blast, but that's one of those things you're not supposed to think about.
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>>287077911
I swear if people still did abridges that this would be the joke.
>Everyone else are casual grail war players
>Little kid is the pro grail war player.
>quits because they're all shitters
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the king… is too perfect
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>>287078358
ORT would just GG blow up the planet anyway if he was awake and serious. In old tsuki, her strongest thing was basically just fucking up the planet to kill all life. Nothing in nu-tsuki seems particularly stronger than that so far. ORT solos.
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We still don't really know what real Crystal Valley do. I mean in LB7 it was affected by tree aids so it wasn't vanilla Crystal Valley.
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>Wished to be alone forever
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>>287074108
you will never be a woman
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>>287078437
she's just like me fr
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>>287078412
Or maybe it's because she simply destroyed ORT and Mictlan reverted as a side-effect of ORT dying.
That explains why Chaldea and the deinos weren't fucking incinerated while everything else ORT changed was.
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>>287074108
child soldiers are legitimate military targets
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>>287078171
So is Jack gone now that Flat's dead or is he also contracted to the age of gods era being inside Flat's crest?
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>>287075482
bluehair because she spreads like butter, also you just know she'd arch her back to better grind your nose
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>Narita is gonna show us Camelot/Zero
FUARK
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>>287077990
This Saber would solo fiction
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>>287078511
Last we hear of jack is that he jumps away and disappears. Onlookers don't know if he died or if he went spiritual. He'll obviously be back, but he hasn't made a peep since then.
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>>287078319
Have you seen Yuta's domain expansion? Its basically just UBW, you're right that he isnt shy about his inspiration
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>>287077582
Thanks.

Now that the season's over I can also say that I left a super low opacity True Assassin at the top right corner.
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>>287078462
No, she explicitly destroyed all of Mictlan to get rid of all the Trees of Emptiness that the Golden Sea of Trees had turned into. Otherwise they'd continue maintaining the Lostbelt.
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>>287078427
>ORT would just GG blow up the planet anyway if he was awake and serious
Remake Arc can confiscate the concept of death from the planet. So the planet itself becomes immortal and impossible to kill and nothing else dies. She can also just reinforce the planet itself in general so ORT isn't able to easily destroy it.
>In old tsuki, her strongest thing was basically just fucking up the planet to kill all life
Melty Blood Archives states Princess Arc's strongest move is a supernova explosion. And as shown in OC3 a weaker Servant Arc can make the Earth collide with the Moon and throwing the Moon into the Earth was something she did in the past as Ciel stated.
What do you think would happen to ORT if it gets hit by the literal moon at high speed when ORT gets destroyed by crashlanding on the planet?
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>>287078574
Doubt it. They'll probably have an entire setting based around it but never answer if "Richard" was Molay, corrupted Richard, or someone else.
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>>287077791
Arcueid also defeats White Len in her arcade run,though. Anyone can defeat anyone in fighting games
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>>287075482
Notice how pink hair is the only one who manages to not look like a complete slut while doing it.
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>>287078600
>Melty Blood Archives states Princess Arc's strongest move is a supernova explosion.
Which is the exact same move as ORT's. Galactica Supercell specifically notes that it unleashes a wave of heat approximating 10 trillion celsius. (Which is, naturally, the hedged heat value of a supernova.)
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>>287078288
I really hate a CUH-RAAZY designs of Fate Apocrypha and onwards. Arguably Fate/Extra was the starting point for the designs to jump the shark but Apocrypha is the start where I felt that certain designs were incongruous not just with the Fate series as a whole but even looked out of place within their own story, Vlad looked great, Siegefried, even Astolfo, Frankenstein's monster was pushing it but justifiable, but Mordred did not look right at all next to king Arthur and Lancelot. Then you got fgo with designs like that and the series just became progressively insufferable. The early fgo story was bad, it was ugly, and it focused too much on the servants instead of the urban fantasy angle.
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>>287078610
>corrupted
come on
You don’t even need to do that
We already know he won’t act like a good guy if you summon him in a calvary class
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>>287078598
She just threw the sun/ORT's heart at ORT itself. There is not a single statement suggesting she directly targeted the trees as well. Nor is there anything implying the trees were keeping ORT alive. If that was the case it would have made the entire plan of hitting ORT with Excalibur meaningless, something that's never implied.
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>>287078689
The details we're given on "Richard" is that his appearance and personality are nothing like Richard. It could just be changed to be lion richard, but even lion richard is a richard so it doesn't match up with the old description.
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>>287078598
No, ORT Xibalba is a much weaker ORT, but the issue with turning everything into a tree of emptiness wasn't to maintain the lostbelt, but rather as long as ORT still existed in some form it could endlessly regenerate. It could keep re-summoning itself or coming back in different forms as long as some aspect of it existed; as long as mercury exists ORT will always exist, and anything ORT terraforms into Mercury will become ORT, it basically creates an infinite loop where it can't die because both Mercury and ORT reaffirm each others existence. That was the point of the RM; ORT couldn't die unless all the trees were killed all at the same time like that, and the physical body had to be killed also at the same time.

ORT was also holding back the entire time during the fight since databooks say it could destroy the entire solar system in an instant by just revving up its internal engine. The reason it was holding back was it was still trying to steal back its heart the entire time.
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>>287078062
That was literally my first thought when that happened lol, Jack didn't do shit.
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>>287078660
>doing it

Fuck. That sounds so fucking hot when you describe it like that. It increases the horny.
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>>287078587
It would be interesting if Jack ends up being the one to murder Faldeus.
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>>287073807
didnt we hear his voice when he talked to zeltrech in the phone?
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>>287078818
a True Assassin vs Fake Berserker fight sounds good
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>>287078818
Its obviously Sigma's job
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>>287078757
Again, if ORT could revive by having the trees of emptiness around then the whole plan of using Excalibur would have been meaningless. The whole reason ORT was reviving was because it's heart was active, nothing to do with the trees.
>ORT was also holding back the entire time during the fight since databooks say it could destroy the entire solar system in an instant by just revving up its internal engin
Post the citation.
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Flat literally got kubo'd. What the fuck is this writing
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>>287078977
About tree fiddy
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>>287078951
Sigma is having a Modern retelling of the 12 labors so he is gonna end up killing Heracles (Thematic Irony) or Jester (Monster)
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>>287078753
I mean he kinda looks like Richard, just older.
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>>287079028
the heroes journey he's following is all about realizing his will, his freedom, and his ideals
This episode he affirmed himself, he plans to go after the organizers of the war, Faldeus.
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>>287075320
On the very least, i expect Dorothea to keep the white hair and red eyes.
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>>287079062
But that isn't a not a let epic fight
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>>287078901
An Assassin who willingly became an anonymous Hassan vs a Nameless Killer trying to learn who they are sounds like a thematic final fight.
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>>287078901
>>287079157
Assassin is dead lol
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>>287078977
Prelati is obviously evil but he/she seems capable and even interested in having fun which is quite different from the modern mages. Basically what I'm saying is that he is a scumbag but I find that I like them a lot anyway. Anyone else feel the same way?
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>>287079157
>An Assassin who willingly became an anonymous Hassan vs a Nameless Killer trying to learn who they are sounds like a thematic final fight.
in bed
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>>287079184
Clearly I should be the writer instead.
How did he die?
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>>287079198
Why are you describing Kirei and the reason I like him?
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>>287079198
Prelati also sounds like a good sport about the whole thing. Even when her plans get ruined she's just "eh whatevs, there'll be more fun down the line" and just peaces out. Not even getting killed dozens of time by Touko slowed her roll. Compare that to all the other mages and Tsubaki who were all ruthless and petty.
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>>287079227
You're gonna need to sit down for this one.

Literally, unironically, no joke here: ALLAHU ACKBAR-
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No name assassin is so fucking hot
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>>287079227
He uses his NP to finish Ishtar off, which also kills him because he drags them both into the underworld.
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Is Shirou a thing in this world/timeline? Does he own a restaurant yet?
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>>287079273
>>287079333
...Faldeus is just going through all the American glownigger stereotypes isn't he?
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>>287079361
He's dead
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>>287079377
Again?
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>>287079377
>>287079392
>Narita is a Heaven's Feel normal end enjoyer
based.
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if this is a American Grail War were is the iligal mexican or the black dude?
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>>287079411
>or the black dude?
Anon....
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>>287079361
he is mentioned in the novel as someone dumas would like to call in to help with gilgamesh, but orlando thinks that this would be worthless because shirou's weapons are worse than the originals

so presumably he is currently working as a semi famous mage merc at the moment
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>>287079411
Pale Rider is black. Hooded too!
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>>287079411
>already forgotten
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>>287079446
Oh nice, didn't know if that inclusion in the manga panel was exclusive.
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>>287075787
Frankbros...
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>>287079446
Someone able to project Class C NP wouldn't have his ass designated for seal?
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>>287079463
Groovy sideburns
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>>287079227
Near the 75% of the war it turns into everyone vs Ishtar
Alcidies shooting hydras and rivers of grail mud at Humbaba
Enkidu turning clay into a giant harpoon he uses to drag down humbaba
Richard and several others all joining in the fighting
In the midst of it Fake Assassin is still having a crisis of faith wondering what she should do, the hassan leaders she admires would know what to do, as Jester is still trying to torment her
Suddenly spooky Hassan appears before her, one of the hassan leaders. He asks whether she is one of their breathern, before saying she isn't, instead she is one of the various people that he and the leaders swore to protect. She accepts these words kindly, saying that she could never be one of them, but at the same time he doesn't mean it in a bad way. Spooky then sacrifices himself to drag Ishtar down to the underworld, and then Sigma shoots her with the god felling crossbow, and she dies.
This is after Ishtar evolved into an actual divine spirit again, so its probably a big deal.
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>>287079050
That's just someone's anthology book where they did a mini-comic, but it's not canon or anything.
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>>287079361
>>287079446
This is a variation of HF worldline
No Shirou doesn't own a restaurant, and no Durmas didn't reference Shirou. He referenced Archer.
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>>287078288
what's the story behind this cutie?
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>>287079588
She's our President!
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>>287079560
Are you retarded, how would they call Archer when he's a servant. They probably don't even know who Archer is.
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>>287079535
>the last two lines
so when ishtar dies is that considered a true death or she just stops manifesting in her vessel on earth?
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>>287079588
She got brain damage from 100 years of torture and thinks she's an alien :(
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>>287079560
>Durmas didn't reference Shirou
He did.
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>>287079560
>Durmas didn't reference Shirou. He referenced Archer.
Dude, Orlando knew which Merc was if that was archer is impossible for him to know him...
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>>287079518
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ who knows. adventure now has mages with divine spirits in their body running around, we had a mage in casefiles who could create servant tier weapons on the spot just with pure alchemy, Touko could throw around a thousand primordial runes while currently at the time not having a seeling designation and the clock tower isn't doing shit about any of this and a servant wasn't seen as a big deal

so perhaps the clocktower in nu-tm just does give far less of a shit about things
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>>287079651
>100 years of torture
w-what kind of torture?
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where can I actually read the light novels translated for free?
also when does the final volume drop?
also also, how bad was the adaptation so far?
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>>287079684
just being picked apart nerve by nerve and then implanted into others
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>>287079741
>Typing three words into google is HARD BROS, why don't you understand how hard it is?
>I need someone else to do it for me
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>>287079741
not that hard to find
>https://www.tumblr.com/humbertozero
>https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/378-Fate-strange-fake-%28Free-Range-Spoilers%29
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>>287070643
Kayneth is truly an exceptional mage in more ways than one.
Like, knowing what he is, a Lord, why the hell he chose to open a class and teach people, even a dumbfuck like Waver who has no talent for magecraft?
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>Entire episode was good
>Except the ending
Flat didn't deserve that bullshit, what the fuck.
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>>287079642
Obviously, Narita is incapable of killing anyone. In the novel, it says that Ishtar is indeed no longer in the vessel, but Philia didn’t actually die. The vessel wasn’t damaged, but it was left empty, because its nature changed after containing Ishtar for so long, which might leave behind remnants, such as a personality similar to Ishtar’s, once the homunculus awakens.
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>>287079780
>tumblr
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>>287079806
He deserved far worse. He's an abomination that needs to be completely wiped out.
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>>287079806
>Season begins with Faldeus gunning down a bunch of people that would be inconvenient for him
>Ends with him gunning down another

It's a great ending.
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>>287079801
He even read Waver Thesis entirely before shitting on it.
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>>287079812
Ultimate einzbern sex doll
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With extremely mixed emotions
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I hope that everyone here has gained a newfound appreciation for the effectiveness that bombs and weapons have against magi.
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>>287079936
Maya was so ugly? She looks like my hood crackhead
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Okay I get that introducing random new people is Narita's thing, but why does it have to be people WHO ARENT FROM THE FATE FRANCHISE? Fuck your Tsukihime slop, Fuck your gachaslop, Fuck EVERYTHING that isnt FSN. This should not be allowed.
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>>287079956
Mystic Code Dongfeng when
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>>287079982
I like his top hat.
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>>287079982
This was back before Nasua had a retard moment and split the Tsuki/Fate timelines (worst decision ever btw).
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>>287079982
>WHO ARENT FROM THE FATE FRANCHISE?
Under that logic Dead Apostles aren't a Fate Universe thing since in Fate Universes Alaya is stronger than Gaia so Dead Apostles don't exists
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>>287079972
She lived in the same war situation Sigma grew up in. They grew up being used for some civil war as child soldiers, for some country that's entirely collapsed and stopped existing some years ago.
She had a rape baby when she was like 13 years old, some time in her early teens. She was saved by Kiritsugu shortly after.
Naturally she has a lot of negative feelings about the experience, but at the same time her greatest regret in Zero was losing her child, and having no idea what became of it
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>>287079982
Van-Fem is my second favorite vampire after TATARI so I was glad he was picked for inclusion.
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>>287080036
>>287079982
Van Fem and all the apostles still exist in Fate worldlines, they just aren't quite as strong (this rule doesn't apply to FSF)
Van Fem appears in Case Files

If you want to understand FSF you have to read Case Files, since the authors are VERY close, and they're coordinating both stories.
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Why is there so much baiting and shitposting in these threads. It's supposed to just be a place to talk about an anime that is airing
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AAAAAAAAH I LOVE KING ARTHUR SO MUCH
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>>287080093
You should come check out the Fire Force threads.
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>>287080080
>Van Fem appears in Case Files
I read Case Files and Case Files and FSF both follow a original timeline post 5th HGW that mixes Tsukihime and Fate content, so is stupid to cry like a bitch over Tsukihime inclusions on FSF since this isn't a pure Fate timeline
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>Be grail war
>Summon Amelia Airheart
Do you have a chance at all?
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>>287079982
retard
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What am I supposed to do now this show was my only joy on Saturdays
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>>287080144
Big hair, big love.
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>>287080144
anon...think of the mana transfer potency!
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>>287080155
We have the FSF collab in FGO, then it's nothing until June for FGO and then Mahoyo movie for this year. That's it really
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>>287080155
Now you read FSF LN like they intend
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>>287080144
>A woman
>Weak
>Weak NP
>Modern Heroic Spirit
>No magic
>A Woman
>Not even a figth jet
>A woman
I will use two command spell to rape her and the last one to make her kill herself
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>>287080201
You will die before getting a Servant in the first place.
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Who is dead as of the last LN and what is the stage
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>>287080201
>A woman releasing as anything other than a 5 star SSR in the era where gachas are making male characters deliberately shit because they don't sell at all
Have you ever heard of POWERCREEP bro?
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Kiritsugu likes em young
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>>287080144
Jets are strong enough to fight heroic spirits. You just need to get her one (maybe join the CIA?) and you can win.
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>>287080260
Volume 9 ends on the entire town just being gone
The government goes to check it out, and the town is entirely gone. There's just a giant sphere floating in the sky with what appears to be an egg in it.
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>>287080271
>Get her a jet
>She crashes it
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>>287076388
>No nipples or areola
Coward!
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Is Richard the biggest winner in all of this?
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>>287080144
It depends on how much a buff she gets from things based off her legend.
Being the first person to try circumnavigation by air could give her A rank authority over Flight which would be pretty OP.
But realistically she'd be a discount JETS.
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>>287080328
But she's cute, so that's good enough for me.
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>>287079535
wait its possible we'll have the actual true ishtar design revealed?
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>>287080133
Case Files is a pure Fate world. Rita Rozay-en and Van-Fem are only the equivalent of grade VII Dead Apostles there since the higher two grades do not exist.
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>>287080328
>Being the first person to try circumnavigation by air could give her A rank authority over Flight which would be pretty OP.
She was the first WOMAN to try to circumnavigate the globe by air. The American military did it successfully over a decade before her failed attempt.
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>>287080328
Most servants released these days have gods shoved up their ass to buff them.
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Wait sigma is the protagonist?
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>>287080365
The fact that the Eyes of Deadly Perception are mentioned dismissed it
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Richard is making Takeuchi proud
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>>287080392
Until he finally kills X.
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>>287080390
See >>287080391
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>>287080392
Yeah Sigma is us rebelling against (((them)))
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>>287080392
In the novels everyone is the protaganist
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>>287080323
Now that he wants to win I hope he does some war crimes.
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>>287079741
https://upaste.de/n3F
you have 1 hour to copy the links.
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>>287080399
MEoDP isn't a pure Tsukihime thing. Ryougi can have the MEoDP in Fate worlds.
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>>287080144
She’s screwed if the Grail War is on Howland Island.
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What did flat do to piss off faldeus?
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>>287080399
Look, I'm not a huge fan of Ryougi either, but she canonically exists and gets her eyes in Fate worlds.
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>>287080399
Bro people are buying mystic eyes in fatesverse
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>>287080365
I liked Case Files because this was the closest we got to the Fate universe as just an Urban Fantasy.
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>>287080497
Be british (America's greatest enemy)
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I just want more Emiya cooking shows.
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>>287080497
Too white to be accepted in modern murica
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Amilia's real power is EX rank Tomboy saint graft.
No man can resist her charm.
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It's over...
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>>287080497
His servant can impersonate American citizens.
He can hack into magic rituals
He got Orlando on his side and the Church
He just got into contact with another Master
He's not big on the murder part of the murder ritual

A lot of reasons, come to think of it.
>>287080529
Isn't Flat actually Mediterranean?
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>>287079411
There's only one american participating.
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>>287080497
He was a European Hispanic and Faldeus is an American, so he rightfully assumed that he was an illegal immigrant and shot him.
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>>287080571
His family estate on on the mediteranian but I always assumed he was american because all his powers are baseball references.
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>>287080571
>He's not big on the murder part of the murder ritual
It's hilarious, especially since he has the concept of a serial killer as a servant and Jack is also as chill as a fuck
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>>287080625
Lady you were conquered fair and square, Orlando, Faldeus, and... yea just them, they're just as American as you are.
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Richard's interpretation was absolutely brilliant
I expected no less from our resident Seibafag
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Threadslave... Bake a new bread please
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While waiting for next cour, I hope some other studio picks up Prototype Fragments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1QxjbZ0E5U
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>>287080803
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>>287080459
arigato anon senpai
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>>287077988
so what exactly is the storm?
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>>287080813
Which one do I use?
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>>287080365
Superior DAs (rank VII) in TsukiR should still be stronger since rank VII and VIII are directly dependent on rank IX.
In practice Fate DAs are just really strong rank VI without Principles. In TsukiR a DA develops a Principle starting from rank V.
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Master-servant Pairs of Each Grail War

Zero
Saber - Kiritsugu
Lancer - Hot Wheelz
Rider - Velvet
Archer - Tohsaka
Berserker - Mato
Caster - Serial killer guy
Assassin - Kotomine

Stay Night
Saber - Shirou (UBW Route)
Lancer - Kotomine (HF Route)
Rider - Sakura (Fate Route)
Archer - Rin (Fate Route)
Berserker - Ilya (UBW Route)
Caster - Schoolteacher (UBW Route)
True Assassin - Matou (HF Route)

Strange/Fake
Saber - Mana Battery
Lancer - Sigma
Fake Lancer - Wolf
Rider - Spoilersaka
Fake Rider - Little Girl
Archer - Mafia
Fake Archer - Chelc
Berserker - Vorzak
Fake Berserker - Flat
Caster - Prelati
Fake Caster - Orlando
Assassin - Faldeus
Fake Assassin - Jester


Okay so, if you took the master Servant pairs of each Grail War and had them all fight in a singular Grail war against the other with the following Caveats
>The Master retains the memories of their Grail War up until the end//their death
>Their body reverts to how they were at the start of their grail war.
>Their servant only has memories they would have had at the start of their grail war (relevant only for Seibeh)

Who do you think would take the prize? How would the Seibeh react to the mirror match fight? What would Richard think of that? How wet would Prelati get? What would be the most interesting interaction?
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>>287074564
no one cares who he is until he put on the watch
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>>287078373
Blame Muramasa. He made it.
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>>287080944
Rank VII is explicitly no longer dependent on their Ancestor and granted "freedom".
Rank IV, V, and VI are dependent on their Ancestor and so they'd be weakened, but VII and VII alone should be identical across worlds, as just "as strong as a vampire can be without Idea Bloods involved".
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>>287074346
Does he feel in charge?



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