I just remembered after 10 years that IchiRuki isn't canon. What the hell man
>>287088014They had the best chemistry of any Shonen duo then Kubo put Ichigo with orihime. Imo it should've been IchiRuki, UryuOrihime, Renji x his hand
>>287088014boobs>
>>287088014>remembering bleachI'm sorry that happened to you, but that's no reason to inflict it on anyone else
>>287088226Shut up you lemming
>>287088175>Zero chemistry >Zero personality development beyond a meme crush>Boobs
They just have good chemistry I'm happy enough for Orihime and Renji, but I think we really missed out on these two
>>287088014what's alarming is the fact that majority of people think ichiruki is a thingshows the majority of humanity is retarded
>>287088169ncie try, but that chemistry is not for romance
>>287088467Wrong
>>287088169Not only IchiRuki. Bleach as a whole declined when Rukia was demoted from main character status
>>287088014Series would have been so much better if it ended here
I hope we get to see them fight together someday
Please care about bleach...
you can't convince me NOTHING ever happened in that closet
>>287088169>YWN have a shinigamilet live in your sliding closetTruly why live at all
>>287088014>there has been constant threads since Bleach ended on /a/ about schizos and speedreaders complaining that Ichigo ended up with Orihime>I just rememberedfor some reason I don't believe you.
>>287088521I disagree, there was a lot of unexplained plot points remaining in Bleach like the Soul King. IMHO the entire Fake Karakura town arc shouldn't have happened and it really sounds like Kubos editor pressuring him to show off the gotei 13 and arrancar more fucked the plot and pacing of the series. Kubo's officiall reason for bleach's crapola ending was health issues but that's probably just Tatemae and the real reason was he got soft cancelled after Bleach had really bad ratings post FKT arc even though it was still popular as ever in the West. Kubo said he doesn't want anything to do with the editors if he does Hell arc so it's pretty clear they were at loggerheads with him unlike Naruto which appears to have been hard carried by the editor>>287088676Obsessed hater who stalks every thread. For some reason this series has always attracted people with extreme hatred for it for no apparent reason
>>287088687Ichigo is asexual
>>287088503Trvke
>>287088169>UryuOrihimeHow? Orihime is forever in love with Ichigo.
>>287088447>majority of peopleichiruki fans aren't people
>>287088420>>287088169>>287088014A hefty 80% of what you remember about Ichiruki was all anime original.As much as I liked the appeal of the pairing, I could quite literally never picture how they would even get together/have a moment where they would bond, because Kubo never wrote them in a way where that would be the natural conclusion. It was done on purpose.
>>287091820I genuinely wonder if the people who ship those characters have read anything pre-Soul Society. And even if they haven't, did they not read "goodbye, halcyon days"? Honestly, how media illiterate can you conceivably be to ignore a character's feelings that are shown so clearly and shoved directly in your fucking face from the beginning of the manga? And not only do I not care for Orihime, Rukia is probably my second favorite character.
You're not supposed to have great friend chemistry with your girlfriend that's not how dating works that's how getting a friend works, virgin
>>287092010>He's not friends with his girlfriendYou're not gonna make it
>>287088447People liked Ichiruki simply because, let's face it, Rukia is a better character than Inoue. She got more struggle, more development, even mor personality throughout the series.Inoue was created from the very beginning to be the protag girl and Kubo never cared to give her more. That's all she is.But I agree with you, to manga readers it was obvious from the get go that Inoue was the destined pair of Ichigo.
>>287092010>You're not supposed to have great friend chemistry with your girlfriendAnd the incels on this board wonder why women fucking hate them.
>>287088447That may be because most people dropped this trash manga so they never knew the ending.
>>287091820Because of the anime, I presume.
>>287091901No it wasn't lol stuff is used right from the manga when talking about it, kubo said he didn't see anything with IR in anime changes at all either, this all happened cause Kubo used poem shit with the character not realizing what he accidentally did with love poems between Ichigo, Rukia and Orihime all because he thought it was cool.People felt swayed towards Rukia's side cause of this shit mess he made, had he not done the poem faggotry there wouldn't really be a ichiruki club.
>>287088420>>287088169>>287088014It's very simple actually, Rukia will never be a woman and Ichigo was looking for a woman.
>>287092849>love poems? Where?
>>287088014I agree but it's still a shounen and shounen and shitty ships goes hand in handNips can't write romance
>>287092210Ichiruki fans (most of them are Rukia fangirls) project themselves on Rukia. A pairing with Ichigo assured them more panel time for Rukia.
>>287093952the poem shit he always did was basically love poems at that point
>>287095499The did the same for all the characters
>>287094752You are not wrong, but Kubo should've made Inoue more interesting ot begin with.
>>287096986What is being interesting? Orihime has always had many fans, it doesn't matter if she is not as popular as Rukia, but she's still quite popular. People like Orihime especially for her personality.
>>287097647I think he issue s not really Orihime, but Ichigo.
ichiruki and Narusaku are the legitamite pairings
>>287088014and I remember when the leaks from the last chapter dropped here, it was glorious lol
>>287097647Sure, but what's the point if Kubo didn't make her as interesting as her "rival"?It was bound to happen.Kubo developed Rukia so much in Substitute Shinigami, SS and Arrankar Arc, but didn't do the same with Orihime. She's... just the protag girl. That's it.She has the same depth as Chad.
>>287089677>unexplained plot points remaining in Bleach like the Soul KingCompletely unnecessary and a tangential concept that was touched on so briefly it might as well have only existed as a vague idea at the time.
Is the high shool novel going to have romance?
>>287088169I don't know how people can look at Rukia and see something romantic however she is the kind of girl who would be the funny female friend that you treat exactly as guy,they are also usually lesbians speaking from experience
>>287097647actually Orihime is way bigger than anybody else
>>287088014Oedipus complex guy marries woman who looks like his mom.
>>287100735What is"depth"? Fights?
>>287088490Rukia looks like his little sister here
Just read Buso Renkin
>>287101009>>287102541Insane cope. Orihime has practically no deeper character development with Ichigo at any point besides like a single chapter prior to the ending of the manga when he realised the entire relationship was unrequited from Orihimes side. Kubo said himself he never put any attention into romance. Rukia and Ichigo s relationship was just better and more meaningful and only gooners disagree
>>287100806>The sole motivator behind everything Aizen did>Completely unnecessary and a tangential conceptAnd you accuse me of speed reading?
>>287093918>>287102135>Ichigo was lusting over those big honkersWeird how Kubo literally never characterises him this way, in fact Ichigo never shows any attraction to Orihime whatsoever yet tears up when he sees Rukia again at the end of Full ring arc. It's almost like it's pulled from gooners asses to validate a badly written pairing
>>287103476I don't know... I still find weird how Isshin Masaki arc was basically the two first arcs. I think Kubo wouldn't do that if he didn't planned at one point to have them ending up together
Didn't Kubo say IchiOri was planned from the beginning?
>>287102444Personal struggles and development. Inoue had pretty much none of that after her Hollow brother.Even her "self sacrifice" in Arrancar Arc could have been better.
>>287103476>Kubo said himself he never put any attention into romanceBecause of that Kubo treated Ichigo and Rukia as the typical nakama shonen friendship. People ship it the same as they ship other shonen males relationships
>>287104107If you read the pilot chapter this is obvious
>>287105164Makes sense. Who wouldn't pick the busty babe over the short flatty?
>>287105045That is a lie
>>287105193You know it isn't.Rukia had Renji, Byakuya, her deceased sister, Kaien, even Ukitake in a way, all to further develop her.Inoue had none of that after her brother, bar her love for Ichigo.Struggles makes the reader sympathize with the character. Kubo failed to provide that for Inoue.
Oh cool, another thread of IchiRuki femcels seething.
>>287105186There wasn't any competition. Ichigo was interested in Orihime before Rukia's arrival. And Rukia had zero interest in Ichigo and supported his crush on Orihime.
>>287088014Good, Rukia is for me.
>>287105186Oh hey it's the tripfag who actually believed me when I told him that a long on Latin meant "Cum in your sock, not on your figgies". Rukia a better.
>>287105297I believed it because its funny.
>>287105285>Ichigo was interested in Orihime before Rukia's arrival.Ichigo barely knew Orihime existed before Rukia's arrival. Obviously Rukia was never intended to be the romantic interest, but you're either retarded or straight up lying through your teeth to say this fucking nonsense out loud.
>>287105234Her relationship with Tatsuki, the bullying she suffered at school, Tatsuki defended her and later Orihime did the same for her , their Deep friendship is way more touching than Ichigo and Rukia's.Orihime trying to feel useful in a fight when she barely got her powers and she is not used to fight.She trying to confront her feelings of insegurity. Orihime feels more relata le than Rukia in many adpects.
>>287105330I'm talking about the pilot chapter. Ichigo and Orihime were already interested in each other before Rukia's arrival
>>287105465>TatsukiIs there any character in Bleach that was more wasted than her? That said, I largely agree with you. Orihime was handled very well pre-Soul Society. It's everything that comes after, and Kubo's inability to handle her characterization while writing a compelling, mutual romance with Ichigo that's the big problem. And unfortunately that's the vast majority of the manga.
>>287104107No. He has been strangely vague about that, never said with all the letters Orihime was always meant to be his romantic end game
>>287105536>pilot chapterIf it's not part of the main continuity then it's irrelevant. In the actual manga, Orihime's affections were entirely one-sided, and Ichigo initially only knew her as his best friend's friend. Kubo failed miserably at showing Ichigo developing romantic inclinations toward Orihime. It was only obvious they'd end up together because of how fucking on the nose he was about Orihime being into him.
>>287105465All resolved in Shinigami Substitute and then that's it.And even so none of that has the same weight as Rukia's struggles.
>>287088014>shows zero romantic tension throughout the entire series>IchiRuki fags mistaken an effective co-worker relationship for romanceYou'd get it if you have female friends. It's not uncommon to have a lot of fun with platonic female friends then bang some hot broad with big tits despite never really speaking to them.
>>287105234>Inoue had none of that after her brother, bar her love for Ichigo.Except her friend Tatsuki, or her aunt that gives her money to survive, or that lesbian girl that wanted to show her the way.My point is that her love for Ichigo is the less interesting relationship dynamic she has, and I bet we aren't getting any next arc
>>287105566We can say the same for Rukia, after her fight with Aaroniero, in volumen 30, she does very few things in the next 44 (in comparison with all what we saw about her in those first 30).
>>287105745I fully agree. You won't hear me make many arguments in favor of the quality of Kubo's character writing. It's his weakest trait as a mangaka. There are times he nails it, but they're few and far between—especially the longer the series runs.
>>287105643Rukia is the second main character, it's logical she has more important plots.But Orihime has a lot of panel time because Kubo uses her as a relatable character that is friends with everyone and she is very perceptive too. She has a lot of meaningful interactions with a lot of characters in the manga thanks to those qualities. Orihime contributes a lot to the emotional aspect of Bleach and that gives it depth
>>287105851Because became too many characters and Kubo wanted to develop too many, and he does very long fights for it. The SS arc fightd were short in comparison with the following ones.
>>287106038Yes, character bloat is a huge issue with Bleach. Someone even made a thread about that earlier.
>>287105666Rukia's Aaroniero fight (and I'm not talking about the actual battle) alone outweighs anything Inoue related in the whole manga.Inoue's problems seem very mundane compared to other characters in Bleach.You can keep arguing but you know it's true.>>287105988But that's my point, Rukia's struggles are way more interesting than Inoue's. Inoue is just Ichigo's love pair who's problems are way below any of the other main characters except Chad. That's what makes her not as interesting. Kubo should have developed her more if he didn't want so many IchiRukis. It was obvious people would want the protagonist to be with the more interesting female character, even if that was never the plan.
>>287106091Honestly the more you say "Unique", despite referring to every other character by their given name, the more I hope you get fucking hit by an errant bus. It's so obnoxiously stupid and deliberate.
>>287106120What the fuck are you talking about?
>>287106120Inoue, not unique. I'm phoneposting but my point still stands.
>>287106166Retard. I grew up with the anime. Overwhelming majority of the characters call Inoue by her surname, not Orihime, except Tatsuki and some other school girls.I also don't call Ishida "Uryuu", for the same reason.Do you have a problem with that too?
>>287106091>Rukia's struggles are way more interesting than Inoue'sSee? That is your problem, you think we thought and have the same opinion as you. I find many of Orihime's, not struggles, simply her human interactions with other characters much more interesting than Rukia's supposed problems
>>287106361And I respect your opinion. That's not the consensus though.
>>287088014>A man and a woman looked at each other>They must want to fuckKys, cumbrain.
>>287106219>I also don't call Ishida "Uryuu", for the same reason. Do you have a problem with that too?Unironically yes. You sound like a pretentious faggot. I grew up with the anime too. It's the reason I started actively reading manga in 2007, which led me to /a/ that very same year. But I'm not the one retard who will use a character's surname in a conversation instead of their given name just to show everyone how cool I am.
>>287088956
Don't talk to me unless you remember "Ichigo facing the Rukia"
>>287106091>. Kubo should have developed her more if he didn't want so many IchiRukisMost ichiruki fans are girls. They don't care about Rukia's struggles, they want to live through her their fantasies because Rukia is a more normal person for them be able to identify. But, indeed, they think Rukia is perfect, she is a queen, she doesn't have any flaw, the rest of people around her are the ones to blame for all her struggles. She is never responsible for her actions. They see Rukia as an ideal and use her to project their dreams. She is the protagonist, has to be way more important than Orihime or their dreams are in danger. Because of that, when Orihime got some role in the series you saw them trying to quit importante to everything Orihime did, they were analyzing until the most minimal detail to prove that she wasn't important and wasn'ta threat for their queen.
>>287105566Ichigo's sisters who are just as full everything as he is with Karin in particular having just as much or maybe more potential
>>287088014>10 years later
>>287106577Unironically stop projecting. I wont change the way I refer to these characters since I was a kid just because a retard like you gets mad about something so irrelavant.>>287106934I have no objections. Growing up, every single girl who liked Bleach loved Rukia. I guess they saw Inoue to be too "male fantasy oriented" (which they aren't really wrong, Inoue is the perfect girl in a male's POV).Truth is, IchiHime being the endgame is fine and settles perfectly with the way Kubo created the characters, though I'll die on this hill that Inoue wasn't developed nor made as interesting as Rukia, and that's probably the reason why there were so many IchiRukis back in the day.
>>287107179he sure was psychotic early on until he mellowed.wish yachiru would come back.maybe Momo too.
>>287107138Good point. Those two are hilariously, insultingly sidelined as characters.
>>287107226>Truth is, IchiHime being the endgame is fine and settles perfectly with the way Kubo created the characters,Not really, besides all that shit about destiny bringing Ichigo and Rukia together, destiny he inherited from both parents and Uryu ending up with no love interest. You have the main problem that Kubo will never actually drawn Ichigo and Orihime as a real couple. It's been 10 years and we still didn't get a official art of the two as a couple
>>287107957Inoue was created from the very beginning to be Ichigo's love pair, not Ishida's. Inoue actually serves no other purpose than being Ichigo's pair. That is why the endgame is fine.Kubo may have tease IshiHime a little bit in SS but it was just to fire up shoujo fans I guess. It was never the plan.
>>287101009>Outing yourself as undesirable
>>287088014glad to see /a/ return to its roots with Ichiruki being right instead of tourist haven with the orihime shit
>>287088169This will amaze you but you can be good friends with women and not blow seed into them.
>>287108638I remember when orihime was just tumblrcore.It feels too much like the whole sakura/hinata shit, except /a/ liked hinata and rukia, not hinata and orihime.
I'm slowly getting convinced Ichiruki fags are not fags at all and instead the faggots are the ones saying "You don't need to cum inside a girl"What is this gay shit? You gonna start saying "You should be friends with girls and never fuck them" ? That more anime should do that?
>>287109810maybe /a/ just likes dark haired girlsi know i do
>>287088014The only way bleach can get any traction in /a/ anymore is with these obvious bait shipfaggotry threads! Sad!
>>287107957>destiny he inherited from both parentsThat is Ichigo was born of a quincy and a shinigami, plus with an inner hollow because of circumstances and Aizen.
>>287110688it's just zoomer troons from Xitter that raid this site from time to time to screech their bullshit, their ADHD will soon kick in and they'll get bored and leave
>>287107957>It's been 10 years and we still didn't get a official art of the two as a coupleWe got the moment when Ichigo asked her for a date
