How are we feeling days after the finale?
empty
>>287088617Like Denji.
Anime fans never learn.Every ending is always a shit show.
>>287088617I'm feel like I still don't know how I'm supposed to interpret this
>>287088617PRESIDENT POWER RAAAHH
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Morning niggasIve been pretty fine, ending was good, part 2 was good, ive got no complaints nor delusions nor crackships
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>>287088685>>287088693>>287088704Too much text, ass panelling, not fuji, wont read
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>>287088760mikasa out of nowhere
Why do amateurs think they can mockup better endings than a pro? Theres WAY more to manga and comic than being able to make pretty drawings.
>>287088823most of the time they can. they can even draw better than fuji.
>>287088764>Denji FUARKED Nayuta and made Denji Junior with chainsaw devil built inNice doujin,I like the idea "Sins" of the father became burden of the son>>287088823True,you need themes and such
It's not ended. Part 3 is getting announced next week
>>287088839nta, that's because Fujimoto is lazy, when he puts in the effort he's a top tier artist.
I don't hate the ending I hate the baiting at the end and during most of Yoru VS CSM. That didnt feel like the final fight to me. But Fuji for over a year now hasnt drawn one good fightscene so fuck it
>>287088861Yes we know, Asa doomed Denji be awakening Pochita, so tragedy will follow Denji in this new timeline also.
BRING ME PART 3NOW!
>Denji got a gimped harem endI much rather him get a "died unloved in a shack at the age of 17" end. He doesn't deserve Nayuta or Asa. No one deserves Power, she is the most distrainable character ever thought up and put to paper. Power has no love for others and is basically an animal like Denji but not a higher one like a dog or an octopus.
>>287088617Thank you Chainsaw man.
Any more dance clips like this?
>>287088617it wasn't the worst ending I've ever seen, it wasn't even bad. i would've liked to see more characters but oh well. i'll miss chapter tuesdays. i'm moving on to just waiting for season 2 now.
>>287088863Id argue that even when hes lazying it up, his artistry comes through no matter how rough the drawing is, because hes communicating a vision thats denser than whats obviously depicted, also he can make chars feel alive, the fanart/AIslop posted here look uncanny and dead.
>>287088970fuji dickriders are so pathetic
>his artistry comes through no matter how rough the drawing is
Fujimoto's stats as an artist Writing Plot -3/10Dialog 9/10Interactions 10/10Score 16/30ArtDesign 9/10Panels 10/10Consistency -6/10Aesthetic 9/10Score 22/40Themes Set up 10/10Build up 1/10Pay off -10/10Score 1/30
>>287089010this isn't mal
What was the point of the second part? It was more nonsensical than usual for the author
>>287089020I can post whatever I want, that's my criticism of Fujimoto. I'm just more comfortable with numbers than words.
>>287089028You're just making yourself look stupid for what?
>>287089038How is that stupid, my feelings are best represented by those numbers. Explain yourself.
>>287089010what's the difference between set up and build up
>reading the final chapter
Hot takeThe hottest everReze should have been included in the end. Even though she was technically a villain that butchered innocent people, the fans liked her. There is is nothing that connects Power, Nayuta, and Asa to make them be in the end other them not caring about Pochita and never harming Denji for having Pochita. Reze should be there too even if she hurt Denji because Pochita was there.
>>287088764Is this director-sama?
>>287089051One establishes the premise and the other builds upon it, Fujimoto has a terrible habit of regurgitating the same plotline.
>>287089066>Reze should (GIGACOPE)Bro, no.
>>287089010Addition ThemesSubtext 8/10Score 9/40
>>287089045Break down 100/10
>>287089114Hardly valuable to the story when Fujimoto himself indulges shamelessly in his fetish, that score is invalid.
>>287089066Scholarly post... The tranny hated this one chief...
>>287089166Why is Reze with that blond guy, I'm not blond.
>>287089138You have schizophrenia im afraid.
>>287089238No. And you don't understand what that mental illness is.
I'm watching the movie again, I can't believe fujimoto retconned it. I wonder how mad Mappa animators are?
Is it actually over or just p2?
>>287089327Yes it's over. There are few Anons who are coping by saying there's enough pages left in this final volume for one more chapter. Some people are begging for a part 3.
Flopvie status?
>>287088617Empty. Betrayed. Still clinging to the hope that this is just a dream, for both Denji and the reader, and he'll wake up in the missing volume pages, kickstarting Part 3.
Rezefaggots?
>>287089302>mad for creating a masterpiece that might as well end up being the pinnacle of the seriesI doubt the nips are as gay as you desu.
Kishibe?Had sex with Fumiko.Kobeni?Had sex with Fumiko.Reze?Had sex with Fumiko.
>>287089373If I could keep my memories and personality, I'd be down to turn into Fumiko clone.
How would a part 3 be able to redeem Fujimoto and chainsaw man as a whole?
>>287089426People don't care about that, they just want more bullshit to shitpost about on the internet.
>>287089066Reze should have been included in the actual story before showing up in some saccharine AU where everyone got replaced by lookalikes.>>287089302I hope they'll understand we still cherish the movie they worked so hard on.
i’m glad you chainsaw trannies got completely btfo and that csm is now a laughingstock across the world
>>287089475Better to be remembered than be forgotten /sn- whatevernooneremembers/
>>287089426>How would a part 3 be able to redeem Fujimoto and chainsaw man as a whole?It was a work by the Dream Devil and we're back where we left. Denji Man/Pochita pukes back Death, so the bugs are gone.Sex promise is therefore canceled. Hilarity ensues. Truce with Yoru may or may not be over.
>>287088617I'm feeling great man
>>287089568All is well when it ends well
same as always
>>287089409Cute and valid
>>287088617I'm feeling open, I said before, I feel my old self coming back to senses. And from what I remember, I wasn't a very happy person. Today I felt it as a silently growing pressure on my senses, like a dreadful restless feeling marching my way. It's happened before, I drown myself in fiction and work and everything that doesn't matter because I can't help but divorce myself from my existence in this world. In honest words, I'm colder.
>>287088617I've been listening to Jouzai on repeat for the past few days to help me understand the ending.
I enjoyed it so I'm chilling
>>287088646There's more evidence Yoru has a fat ass than there ever was for Makima
>>287088654fuji leaving doors open for a potential sequel, just in case he needs more dosh in the future
Why didn't Kishibe appear in part 2 even once? He really had no interest at all in helping Denji and Nayuta or at least keeping tabs on her so she didn't become another Makima? Was he just relying on Yoshida because he was just so busy managing Public Safety for some reason?
>>287089736He transitioned, he was Fumiko who touched Denji.
>>287089736Who told Quanxi not to mess with Denji?
>>287089783that’s not an appearance, just an indirect reference
>>287089736>>287089783Quanxi gave Kishibe a pity fuck after that because she was lonely and he ended up dying in the process due to a shattered pelvis.
>>287089806So it is an appearance in your thoughts from part 2.
>>287089845you’re esl, i can’t understand you
>>287088943RIP sora
>Asa consentedDid she really?
>>287089008Built for cute blond men like me
>>287089184My condolences. You can't be cute.
>>287089937No.
>>287089591NGL, this is the lamest incarnation of "death" of any story I've ever read. She's damn cute but not "death" worthy.
>>287089862You have no understanding
Nayuta inviting her sisters for a gaming night.
>>287088617generally pleased, I was surprised but things came together thematically and it was fun to think and talk about
>>287089974Femcels are not capable of consent
>>287088617Fuck Rezefags!
>>287090336What the fuck is his problem?
I really wanted to see Himeno again but she's more likely to be alive than not so I think that counts as a win
>>287089979i donut agree
>>287089342>budget 11 million>gross worldwide 110 millionYou do the math smooth brain...
>>287088617>How are we feeling days after the finale?BadUnsatisfied, betrayedI can't even recommend csm to friends anymore, even only part 1The existence of part 2 is straight up embarrasing
>>287089937We'll straight up never know for sure.
>>287090488>We'll straight up never know for sure.Do you rike it?
>>287090541No
Well, at least the Control Devil movie will be good. Something to look forward too
>>287090610>W-we still have the anime of the good parts of csm!The ultimate coping mechanism...MAPPA gods, save us...
>>287090627They will rewrite part 2 trust
>>287090640Just gotta wait like 9 years
>>287090674Wlll it even matter in 9 years?
What is there even to discuss now? It’s over there is no theory crafting or prediction. The manga ended and it’s absolutely garbage
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>>287088617feels great. spedread the p2 right before final chapter, rewatch reze movie, power showed up at the end of that too. best girl won.
>>287090738Dream Theory.The missing pages.
>>287090738There can be no theory crafting because the ending was nonsense random bullshit left unexplained, it takes away all fun about theorycrafting because trying to use established canon to predict stuff is useless when the author just ignored what Pochita's powers did and didn't even explain.It's just pointless now, it would all be equally valid random headcanon, how good your argument is doesn't even matter for theorizing part 2
>>287090857Then why are you here?
>>287090899I don't knowI guess I got used to opening this thread every time I open /a/ over timeOld habits and all that
>>287090336B-based.
>>287090936We're all in a timeloop like Denji
I’ve waisted 5 years on my fucking life on this shit and I can’t just let it go like this. All I’ve been doing is post on /csm/ I don’t give a shit about 4chan or actually any other website. Wtf a my suppose to move on to? I like you guys don’t leave me
>>287090992>I like you guysHow?We're all assholesAnyway just invade some other general, there's lot of crossover
>>287090992>I like you guys don’t leave meAt the very worst, there's the anime adaptation of Part 1.
>>287090992You like being part of a fandom, this particular one is very bad. Try finding popular long running series or game, you won't miss a thing.
>>287090992>I like you guys don’t leave meNo need to be dramatic, there are better manga (and posters) out there
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>>287088617I feel completely empty. Before, I was really pissed about the ending, but now I don’t feel anything. I don’t even know if I’ll watch Season 2 of the anime when it comes out, since it feels like nothing that happened in Part 1 actually happened. Goddammit, I already knew it would be a "Lebowski" ending, I even expected it to ruin Part 2, but not Part 1 tooI hope this terrible ending becomes Fujimoto’s definitive legacy, that he’s remembered as the author who made one of the worst endings in all of fiction, not for Part 1 of Chainsaw Man, not for the Reze movie, not for his one-shots, or even for Fire Punch. I want people to feel embarrassed to say they’re fans of Fujimoto and ashamed to work with him. I want this ending to be the final nail in the coffin of his career as an author.Fuck Fujimoto.
>>287089066I have an even hotter take: Reze should have been in part 2, or Fujimoto should at least justify her absence. All the hybrids returned, and she simply disappeared without any explanation.
>>287091234>I want people to feel embarrassed to say they’re fans of Fujimoto and ashamed to work with him. I want this ending to be the final nail in the coffin of his career as an author.>Fuck Fujimoto.based desuThe whole thing felt quite spiteful.
>>287090992Don't feel as strongly but I do feel you guys are more fun to talk to than most other /a/ fandoms.
>>287089357Fuck you, Powerkek, you only liked the ending because your stinky waifu appeared at the end even though she wasn't the same one from the previous timeline. Your taste is garbage for settling for such cheap fanservice.
>>287091309She got disappeared by Kgb
>>287090470Don't be so sad makimabro, your waifu will have some moments in the anime. No need to be a sore loser.
>>287091234>. I don’t even know if I’ll watch Season 2 of the anime when it comes out, since it feels like nothing that happened in Part 1 actually happened.Come on nowJust watch until the end of part 1 and pretend it ends thereI want to see the snowball fight and blacksawman animated, it's worth it
I don't get why people don't like the ending.
Even with the happy ending, grim2 was too damn grim and now i need a palate cleanser, something cute. Is Kemono Friends good?
>>287091043And where would you suggest we should go? No general is as full of assholes as this!
I saw a post that next Fujimoto's manga is going to be based on SCP, is this true?If true, are you going to read it? Add to your answer if you have read Fire Punch as well.
>>287091463No its notGo watch gintama
>>287091465I am not telling, I'm trying my best to gatekeep the schizos from my comfort mangasJust find something that tickles your fancy
Remember good ol' times?
>>287091477I have read FP. I will read the new one if there's Asa in it. Or just follow it because why not.
>>287091477>If true, are you going to read it?YesBut only so i can shit on it, and not on mangaplus to not give him any "view", only pirated.>Add to your answer if you have read Fire Punch as well.Yes, I did read it. Good but worse than part 1.
>>287091477>If true, are you going to read it?Not reading anything by him unless I get Part 3.>Add to your answer if you have read Fire Punch as well.I unironically stopped at Agniface and forgot to continue it. lol
>>287089302You know what's even worse? Even if Denji never saw Reze again in his life, she would at least still be in his mind as someone he loved. Now, with this ending, he doesn't even remember meeting her. Fuck this garbage ending!
>>287091477I haven't read Firepunch. I probably will eventually read everything he made though. Don't know how to feel about "based on SCP", that doesn't mean anything. Do you mean he's going to have something similar to CSM but with anomalous monsters? Or do you mean he learned his ways around cosmic horror after being inspired by some of the best articles?
>>287091494Bitch, you read warm piss, robinfag.
>>287091494Are you lying to me? After everything we've been though together? There's no way you're not going to find a way to spend some time with schizos. That is the kind of a containment general I'm talking about.
>>287091525I dunno, i assume it means in the SCP setting?
>>287091527How the fuck would I gatekeep the niche manga of one piss, retard? Might as well "gatekeep" jjk and dbz
>>287091234>search archives>Makimakek seething about Power>"I feel completely empty"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No seriously, what's there to hate about the ending?
>>287091559Which one? The base setting? It's really just a secret organization keeping monsters locked up then.
>>287091588EverythingEvery single page of 231 and 232 is worse than the one that came beforeIt's a genuine disaster>Go point by point!Already did in these days, I'm too tired now, too empty to even shit on itYou are free to enjoy it, I guess
>>287091518I get solace in knowing the movie scene where Denji attempts to kiss Reze is the only time Denji actively attempted to kiss a specific girl, instead of just wallowing in the pleasure of a kiss initiated by the girl.
>>287089426This ending is irredeemable. I think the only things a Part 3 could do are show more about this new Denji and his supposed "character development," as well as showing how the other characters like Aki, Reze, Kishibe, Himeno, etc., are doing, and also delve deeper into the consequences of Pochita's "erasure" in the world.
>>287091613I'm sorry you feel that way, but warning signs were there. Aren't you happy most of the innocent characters are alive and well?
>>287088617I've made my peace with it. Still rabu CSM and/csm/
>>287088654Asa mentioning Chainsaw Man brought Pochita back into existence
231 is good, 232 is badSimple as
>>287089736>he was just so busy managing Public SafetyThat's so fucking stupid, what could be more important to the strongest Devil Hunter than worrying about the literal end of the world?
>>287091486>samuraislop>with a grey haired denjiFuck off retard. Also >watchI want a MANGA, FAGGOT
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>>287091463Usually I'd recommend jojo but SBR anime is kil. I'm depressed again. Still, try watching Jojo it's great.
>>287090336"Fuck the character that saved my series"
>>287091671>231 is good, 232 is bad>Simple asNoMakimafags who defended 231 because it shits on Denji or whatever have had their scholar license revoked
>>287088617I feel content with the ending.(not going to bother wallowing on my criticisms of part 2 as a whole and how the reboot timeline is). Anyways, has Drawyuta or Drawbab release anything new after the last chapter dropped?
>>287090738Well, we can keep discussing how much we hated the ending.
>>287091463Freesia.
>>287091739Did she even save shit?>>287091692NTA but you want to try Choujin X?
>>287091692Thousand indians upon your neighberhoodMay your sons be gay and daughters infertile
>>287091561Is it Kagurabachi, MAD and Drama Queen?
>>287091671>231 is good, 232 is badBoth completely shit on the themes (and such) of the entire manga. I don't know if Fujimoto wanted to do an "escapism bad" ending, but he actually did the ultimate "escapism good" ending.
>>287088617I would say the final chapter isn't *that* bad, but the immediate lead up/couple of chapters before it and wait time was absolutely ass, and the fact it is the final chapter and not spread out a little bit more with either a extra chapter or a epilog or something significantly detracts from it.Like I'm genuinely relieved that the very final chapter wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but now I'm a bit pissed at how almost pointless feeling like later half of part 2 felt, like it shows alot of the positive actions denji took effectively carrying over to the new timeline which is supposed to relieve you somewhat but all of those things are literally just "remember part 1?" Even nayuta which was introduced in the part 1 epilog.You could have basically have gotten to a similar situation that is the final chapter from the end of part 1 without any timeline resets so easily it really does feel like you completely wasted your time reading anything past that
Mappa will IMPROVE Part 2
>>287090857It's such an open ending, yet so empty, that it's impossible to theorize about it without resorting to headcanon. Like, we have almost no clues about the consequences of Pochita's "erasure," how it affected the world and the other characters beyond those shown in the final chapter.
>>287091776i actually dropped that because of how depressing it was
>>287088617Great I became a fan. Sucks we have to wait for June.
>>287091817Mappa can improve the fights, the story is not salvageableI guess Yoru as a villain will have more "aura" in the animated fight.
>>287091817The finale isn't salvageable because it tells you the whole journey was a mistake.
Actual real hot take. Reze not being in the end is the only good thematically thing in the finale. She was the girl that connected the most with the worst version of Denji, and the new denji is at his best. Now that he is "happy", with no makima being a problem enough to warrant the bomb devil, he should not even meet her.
>>287091817By adding little character moments to make Asa and Denji actually fucking believable and feel like a tragedy at the end of the story of just amping up the action?What's Mappa’s longest running series?
>themesbro it's a Fujimoto manga. You read it to have fun and pass time. The art is good, the story chapter to chapter is entertaining and that's it. Don't expect a masterpiece : the guy is at the exact middle point between a genius and a retard, just have some fun
>>287091477of course i will read it
>>287090992Don't worry Anon, me and many other Anons will be here shitting this ending for 10 years at least.
>>287091889>"happy"I think new Denji is at peace with his life.>>287091913The art hasn't been good for a while>>287091921We are here forever?
>>287088617Like a million bucks>>287088918>>287091395Cope, seethe and dilate
>>287091874Aww shucks, I like the end, it's pretty impactful. If you're looking for CGDGT I'm reading a manga about a dark elf who is a fightfag, it's pretty comfy so far. Only 4 chapters, it's monthly. Black Frieren, some art is nice.
>>287090992please be bait because this is really pathetic
I haven't seen a single actual argument to prove the ending was bad
>>287091913>bro it's a Fujimoto manga. You read it to have fun and pass timeNoFuck off with youPart 1 was great, it had good themes, characters, story, pacing. It was a great manga.No, I will not accept part 2 is just "dumb fun", because the manga used to be fun without being dumb.Even early part 2 shits on what comes afterwards in terms of quality.
>>287091963>CGDGTCGDCT*
>>287088617Confused on how to write my fanfic do you guys think this Denji will act like timeline Denji or different? This Denji seems kinda depressed idk.
>>287091979have you read Fire Punch ?
>>287091991Denji will act like he did before he got mindbroken by shartkima.
sorry but i can’t take any of your “””criticisms””” seriously when you’re attaching images of makima to them, it just comes across as you being butthurt because she got written out of existence
brooo... Just stop thinking lol... It's not that deep... Critical thinking? No ahahaha... What's that? Bro! Sex! Bro... Bro.
>>287092006YesInferior to csm part 1 in every way, but superior to csm part 2 in every way
>>287091979>Even early part 2 shits on what comes afterwards in terms of quality.This is honestly my biggest gripe with the idea that Part 2 was always bound to end terribly because Fujimoto "had a personal vision that wasn't what the fans wanted".Early Part 2 is actually good.
>>287091780>Choujin XSounds kinda edgy and not very cute, i just want a moeblob series>>287091782>your sons be gay and daughters infertileCool, gays and spinsters make great artists, dont want no wagieslaves in my family.
What kind of ending do you think Part 2 was originally building to? Assuming some variant of the current one wasn't always the plan.
>>287092011It's exactly what they areRemember they were spamming for 2 weeks straight how the ending would be about Denji killing himself, Power never coming back and Makima being proved right
>>287092022>moeblob seriesWitch Hat Atelier. Anime coming out in next month, catch up you'll love it.
>>287091936Happy, at peace, whatever fujimoto wants to say it, it is the best version of Denji. Reze, makima, and almost every other women except for Power was around or attracted to Denji at his worst.
>>287091439I mean, yeah, those are Kino moments and I always thought I could ignore part 2 no matter how bad it was, but no matter how much we cope, the ending is Pochita erasing all the events from the characters' minds, everything was practically thrown in the trash.
>>287089066she was a vehicle to paint woman as fundamentally evil and soulless (same as makima, asa)there's a bit of catcher in the rye DNA in so far as the only women at the end were nayuta (literal child) and power (mental child)
>>287092027Probably a lot long to get to the end of the world to justify the timeline reset rather than bug gangbang. Part 2 was a rushed amount of just shock nonsense
>>287089066I can tell you're a movie newfag by the sheer retardation trying to prop Reze up. I don't have anything against Reze, but pretending she was more important than Power or Nayuta to Denji and the plot is straight delusionalShe literally only had relevance for one arc, even when she came back Denji didn't cared. She is a one-off character. The Bount Arc of CSM
>>287092054>attracted to Denji at his worst.This Denji still lived as an orphan who didn't go to school and is stuck working at PS. It's the exact backstory he has in Reze arc.
>>287091574I hate Makima, you faggot
>>287091817>Mappa will IMPROVE Part 2By selling it off to J.C staff when they're done with part one...
>>287092022>Sounds kinda edgy and not very cute, i just want a moeblob seriesYou and I are polar opposites?
>>287088918>distrainableYou mean disdainable?
>>287092011>it just comes across as you being butthurt because she got written out of existenceJust to be clear, then you should be mad too because the whole story got erasedYou can't say "It still happened" and "Makima never happened", these two are contraddictory positions to hold on the ending>>287092037Not all of usAlso you shat on 231 only to completely change your mind when powy showed up, you know deep down this is dogshit, you just eat it for the crumbs of power in it
>>287092139>Not all of usOf course not>Also you shat on 231 only to completely change your mind I didn't changed my mind, retardbro. That chapter, or atleast the amanduh translation of the chapter was pants on head retarded. Part 2 as a whole is very mid. Chapter 232 however is a great finale and i will defend it
>>287091636Yeah, but, but now with the ending, that never happened.
Every post you make bitching and moaning makes Fujimoto's little tiny gook dick harder.
>>287092139I get that people who hated the ending are really upset because you were coping about part 2 being good or going to get good. There's no reason to be upset about it ending and the story returning into a nice normal route.
>>287092130Idk, maybe? Thats the beauty of the csm fandom, its very heterogeneous.
>>287092139>the whole story got erasedNo it didn't, the whole story did happened which is why Power is attracted to Denji, Nyako likes Nayuta and Makima doesn't existThe chapter literally has a panel of Denji remembering the Pochita heart to try and spoonfeed mentally slow readers that everything happened
>>287092166It happened as long as you ignore Part 2. It's terribly written anyway.
>>287092100Weird because all he thought about after she died was fucking Yoru, so much for "caring about her" lmao.
>>287092127I will watch simply to see how bad it can be.
>>287091671Part 2 is badSimple as
>>287092088I don't think he would have even needed that many more chapters. Just have Denji save the world but Asa dies in the process. He's regarded as a hero and women throw themselves at him, but he just ends up feeling empty. Asa/Yoru being the last friends he really had left, which he finally realizes is what he realy wanted. Then have Pochita do the reset.
>>287091692You're a gay retard>>287092022>Cool, gays and spinsters make great artists,And this is confirmation how gay you are>>287092237What?
>>287092264>he doesn't get it
>>287091800Escapism IS good>>287092052>woke shit atelierYou know what, he will 100% love that slop
>>287092226I meant the manga. It's called You and I are polar opposites.
>TIL that the powertranny ALWAYS hated part 2Why is he so fake?
>>287092162>That chapter, or atleast the amanduh translation of the chapter was pants on head retarded.It's the set up for 232If you accept 231 as retarded (and I did, you can see me in the archive fighting with other makimafags over it), you accept 232 is even more retardedThe fact that its not even Denji's choice, alone, completely destroys any meaning 232 could have, it's meaningless, void.Let alone when we enter the plotholes and mechanics of it>>287092208>There's no reason to be upset about it ending and the story returning into a nice normal route.Is it? I see a superpowered control working for the government that wanted to kill 10k kids, and lording over Denji and power, who are still PS dogs destined to end in the cementery, or get drunk mourning their comrades 6ft underThe ONLY way to salvage this shit is with a part 3, which I don't want because it would somehow be even shittier
>>287092229>No it didn't, the whole story did happenedSo why would I be mad about "makima being erased" if it's functionally not different from chapter 97 where she dies, which I call kino?I am merely pointing out your inconsistent understanding of either the plot or my theory of mind. Pick one hill to die on
>>287092307>You know whatChainsaw man is also woke.
>>287091817Part 2 is beyond saving. Mappa can add as much "aura" and "hype" moments as they want, it won't change the fact that the story is a disaster. I mean, there's a reason why the Japanese fucking hate Part 2. If they hated season 1 of the anime, imagine what they'll think of Part 2 when it's animated.
>>287092333He's a clown, he always defended part 2 until specifically 231 happened, now he's been saying for a month that "actually I never liked part 2" when we all know how vehemently he defended this sewage waterHe even ditched Asa after shipping her with Denji for months only because Power is back. He's a dishonest creature, like a demon from Frieren, words are meaningless to him, only a way to trick people.
>>287092307>I read this manly straight manga by super straight libertarian nonwoke author Tatsuki Manlymoto!Whos gonna tell him?
Reminder that Anon is crying about a fictional story for literal days like a little toddler.Fujimoto won, grow up and get a job is the ultimate ending to this kind of story.
>>287092349>If you accept 231 as retarded (and I did, you can see me in the archive fighting with other makimafags over it), you accept 232 is even more retardedNo i don't because despite Pochita saying Denji is happier on the shack (likely mistranslation since a moonrune reader said Pochita said something like ''You dream even when you're in hell''), i always called the reset ending since the world was literally unfixable. >>287092374>So why would I be mad about "makima being erased"Because makimafags kept spamming for weeks how Makima would come back, and then not only she didn't but also Nayuta came back.>>287092387>>287092451You have to go back
>>287092349Dude it's not real life. I mean it feels like part one but happy. That's the best ending. Just no more shitty manga, instead you get a happy end.
Hello, sirs.
>>287092425Are you so buttblasted about the ending you're making fanfictions about me? That's really gayMakima is eternally poop, deal with it bro
>It doesn't matter! Lol why are you complaining? It's just a story bro!>*Is here for days defending it*If it doesn't matter why are you here?
>>287091465you should try /lgbt/
>>287092500>dude just like enjoy shitting eat shit, it tastes good if you imagine it's ice cream instead
>>287089279you doomed him to a loss
>>287092529>fanfictions about me?P this gaslighting doesn't workEveryone who has been in these threads knows you because you avatarfag, it's only natural. We all remember the shit you pulled in the past.
>>287091889The Denji she fell in love with was arguably the best one; he was content with his life, valued his friends, and was even romantic with her.
>>287091692>samurai slopyou wish, it's actually a comedy slice of life series about 30 year old losers with occasional fights
>>287091913>exact middle point between a genius and a retardso it's mid
>>287092333By his own admission, he literally doesn't care about anything other than seeing Power. Whenever he seems to praise something/some character, it's just an argumentative trick for some Power-related goal, he doesn't care about the merit of the discussion you're having.Now I'm remembering a discussion about Reze Arc where he kept arguing that the main reason behind Denji's rejection on the hill wasn't "his career goal" (of killing Gun Devil so he can get Makima as his gf), which is the line that actually sets off Reze, but "his PS life with his coworkers".Now I understand his "argument" for Denji rejecting Reze was because Denji had a life with (Aki and) Power. Not, you know, because of Makima.
>>287092553>dude just like enjoy shitting eat shitDenji didn't ate Makima last chapter, that was on ch97>>287092577I know Power coming back absolutely raped your mind but you need to take your meds
>>287092553You were eating shit for 3 years and now you're being offered a fine steak. Be happy about that.
>>287092645Irrefutable
>>287092582>litteral slave to makima>friends dying left and right constantly>obsessed with sexPart 1 denji was miserable until the end, then part 2 got even more miserable because fujimoto wanted to end the series. End of part 2 is at his most content because he only has the blood devil (power) with him. Basically the moral is that fujimoto hates everyone except fat ass blonde women
Do you think reze likes having her armpits raped
>>287088617I never cared for the series that much so I'm unaffected. Thought the ending was alright, since I only cared about Denji somewhat and Asa.
>>287091463Veil manga.
cool reference
>>287092931A reference to what?
After all, I still love Makima.
>>287092264>Fujimoto is kendrick lamar of mangakaWas that ever supposed to be a compliment?
>>287092714>was willing to escape from Makima>nobody he cared about had actually died yet>covered Reze's unconscious naked body with a shirtImpressive, not one correct point.
>>287092957To his childhood
>>287092645>and now you're being offered a fine steakNo we are not, we are being offered jingling keys, literal bait for toddlersAfter the 3 years its insulting more than anything else he could have done
>>287092957Takeshi
Makima is truly the goat of all time. Reze is cute for sure, but makima is like next level hot. Furthermore, without makima, there wouldn't even be a denji, and without denji there wouldn't be... chainsaw man.
>>287093388The final chapter proves you wrong btw
>>287093176>hisThe line was always specifically about "our way" (plural).This isn't a minor detail because it is a key moment of the finale of Part 1, where Makima thinks she can speak for Pochita as well when she utters the quote.
>>287093388Boss Nayuta is fine too.
>>287093434So, did the last 231 happen or not?This question always fucks your kind over because for this argument to make sense you have to come out and say the rest of csm was pointless
While it's been memed to death, I do really like this panel. A guy who never really mattered to most people getting a simple thank you for just helping is kind of sweet.
>>287093467Yes, it happenedAnd ch232 proves everyone would be happy if Makima never existed, are you ok?
CURSE FUJIMOTO FOREVER FOR MAKING THE HOTTEST VERSION OF DENJI LAST ONLY ONE CHAPTER
>>287093556>Yes, it happenedTherefore, this ending is a consequence of Makima's existence, just as anon said>are you ok?I'm fine, just pointing out your "owns" make no sense within your own line of argumentationFinal chapter does NOT prove him wrong if you think the manga happened, because this Denji is indeed partly the result of Makima
>>287093499b-b-but... the heart... what could i possible mean? There must be some hidden meaning to this! Omg, fujimoto senpai, you're such a genius!
>>287093647>this Denji is indeed partly the result of MakimaThis Denji never met Makima you retard.
>>287093467Yes, the characters clearly have residual memories and are affected by them>Power instantly taking a liking to Denji>Power say she likes dogs despite hating them in part 1>Nayuta instead of Makima >Mewoy liking Nayuta >The way Denji generally talks and acts in the last chapter >The way Denji and Asa look at each other. >The Pochita heart flash
>>287093642>HOTTEST VERSIONHe's got only one testicle.
>>287089979She is my goat
>>287093700>This Denji never met Makima you retard.Oh, so the manga never happened?Keep it straightIf this Nayuta remembers the influence of Denji in the previous life, for example, then Makima's actions are the cause of thisSame for Power immediately saving Denji, Denji remembering the term chainsawman, etc etcTherefore, the actions of Makima led to this Denji, this Power, and this Nayuta. To deny so, means the manga never happened.>you retardI'm not the one struggling with a simple cause and effect argument, KEK
>>287093782>Oh, so the manga never happened?Are you going to keep pretending to be a retard then?
wht thread are /csm/ anons moving to? I can¨'t lose you guys
>>287093818One Piece general, saar
>>287093852Sanjeet...
>>287093767is your ideal of hot the amount of testies a man has? I'm fine with just one, the rest of the package is alluringly rugged.
>>287093809Are you?If you accept the manga happened you accept anon is right and Makima's influence led to thisP, really slow2 + 2 = ?Think about it, do it with your hands if necessary
>>287093809>fat powerYou should be beheaded
>This is a page from the official manga>Anons still claiming it makes no sense for Power to be in over other characters
What I find strange about the ending is the characters' behavior; it seems like a parody, and this isn't because Fujimoto doesn't care or can't write; this is done on purpose.
Why wasn't Aki in the ending?
>>287088617Me and roboco just had this on the ending of this weeks chapterI can think of another place this could have been put
>>287093899>Anons still claiming it makes no sense for Power to be in over other charactersNobody claims thisThe claims is that the ending AS A WHOLE makes no sense, and power being teleported to the zombie devil warehouse, just like Nayuta instead of Makima, just like a ton of other things can only be explained with complete headcanonDenji finding power again was obviously set up, its just odd he didn't do it for the entirety of part 2 and she just popped out in the final chapter after no effort on denji's part. That's a completely retarded writing decision
>>287093884>anon is rightNo, you aren't>Makima's influence led to thisNayuta outright refused to get influenced by MakimaAll of Makima's influence was negated in this new timeline, including Barem. Makima quite literally never existed, she's reduced to be poop in a timeline that doesn't exist anymore
>>287088617After reading the Fujimbo interviews, I kinda understand what he wanted to achieve. I still think he fucked up by not giving it a three extra chapters but I’ll just remember the good and move on.
>>287093927A devil can't understand what people want and Pochita's insane misinterpretation of Dennis' character essentially ruined his life forever, putting him in a regressed state in a regressed world where everything feels a little "off" for the rest of his life.
>>287094028>Nayuta outright refused to get influenced by MakimaAnon Nayuta is like this because she was raised by DenjiShe was raised by Denji because she's the reincarnation of Makima, whom Denji fought and was in love withThis Nayuta CANNOT have this personality without Makima's actions2+2 CANNOT equal 5, I don't get how this can be so controversial to you, 2+2 simply equals 4
>>287093948Lot of possible reasons >Normal humans who died before the reset are still dead>Gun devil didn't kill his family, didn't have a reason to join Public Safety >He is in public safety but just wasn't assigned to Denji. >Him and Himeno left Public Safety like she originally wanted.
>>287093388>Makima is truly the goat of all timeShe never won a popularity poll>without makima, there wouldn't even be a denjiMakima is irrelevant to the creation of Denji
>>287094069>Anon Nayuta is like this because she was raised by DenjiCorrect>She was raised by Denji becauseKishibe told him to raise her>This Nayuta CANNOT have this personality without Makima's actionsThis Nayuta has this personality exactly because Makima doesnt exist>2+2 CANNOT equal 5, I don't get how this can be so controversial to you, 2+2 simply equals 4Weird schizo meltyYou have to cope that, just like it happened on popularity polls, Makima lost.
>>287093948Because fujimoto's goal is to give as much fanservice as possible, after all, that's the only thing you can do with a shitty endling like this. Aki already had his good arc. Dragging him into this shitfest of an ending would only sully his work even more.
>>287088866>That didnt feel like the final fight to meBecause felt more like Majin Vegeta rather than a villain. Everybody knew that Yoru and Denji would be on good terms at the end of their fight
Pawah is the cutest.
>>287093948Because Aki's reason to enter Public Safety was revenge for his family and to stay in PS after Himeno tells him to go to the private sector was Makima brainwashingNo CSM = no GD on earth = Aki's family aliveAnd if this didn't happenedNo Makima = no simp brainwashing = Aki is with HimenoThat being said, the senpai Denji was mentioning in the end could be him
>>287094081Personally think it's the first thing since there's no sign of any of the dead human characters throughout the whole chapter. Only devils, fiends, and hybrids.
16 pages left will feature fumiko and cicada narrating the apocalypse aftermath and it will retcon 232
>>287094177>Kishibe told him to raise herYes, and why Denji? Because he just fought MakimaHad Makima never happened, they wouldn't have given Nayuta to him, in fact in the new timeline they did not, she's already their employee... but has the influence of the timeline where Makima DID exist. Because Denji raised her... in the universe where Makima existed, not this one. No Makima = Nayuta doesn't get raised by Denji = Nayuta doesn't have this personality. It's a simple equivalence, like 2+2=4=8/2>You have to cope that, just like it happened on popularity polls, Makima lost.Are you really going to use the polls again, kek?Aren't you tired of getting btfo?
>>287094283Mr Tanaka came back
>>287088752>viridian forestBased.
>>287089340>enough pages left in this final volume for one more chapter.Omakes are more likely
>>287088617It's been terrible since 2/3rds through part 1 so I don't understand why people were expecting something good
>>287094311Yeah and the Yakuza boss, though ironically they show up just to die again.
>>287093971Gee it's almost like the manga was written week to week and whenever the author got bored he'd switch gears without caring about the overall story
>>287090738>What is there even to discuss now?Asa vs Power, for 10 years at least
>>287094338Name one terrible thing that happened during part 1
>>287094421Literally everything after Himeno. Every single page.
>>287094446Dragon...
>>287092264>kendrick lamar of mangakaWho the fuck is it? I swear if it's some nigger rapper- Oh of course he is. I hate zoomers so much it's unreal. They never recovered after collective tide pod poisoning, huh.
>>287089066They're a million reasons she should've been present in part 2 in general. Despite what a bunch of faggots in here think, she left a lasting impact on Denji and is a colonel completely unresolved plot point that had no reason to be left hanging.
>>287094405Fake and gay dispute formented by the usual suspects, just like Reze vs Asa (who suspiciously ended overnight)
>>287094467You read my post, you understood it.Every single page after Himeno kicks it is trash. Katana man and IA are the most obvious examples of an author getting bored with his toys I've ever seen.
>>287090470This.
>>287094306>Makima is not NayutaI agree>that picNo wonder you're so mad https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/286746772/#q286752669
>>287094509Redditze kwabbed and sharted an entire pool of shart right infront of mommy Makima, very disrespectful behaviour
>>287094509>colonel completely unresolved plot pointColonel? Colossal?
>>287090470>makimakek>seething about the endingkekaroo
>>287094515>formentedThere's no "r" in "fomented", you fucking moron. That said, I agree with you.
>>287093252How?
>>287094605Hungover phonepostingPlease forgib
Nayuta is literally Makima without the memories. None of you people actually understand Fujimoto's writing.
>>287094588>not even the same filenameIt's not me, I am the one who made the image but not its only postersYou can look the filename up and see the first time it was posted it was already "smooth kima"You just made me look trough the archive to be sure, but when i read that post I knew it wasn't mine because I was angry at chapter 231 too
>>287094675It's more that that, she also retained the experiences she went through while living with Denji, which is why she behaves like a normal brat rather than a robot.
>>287094692>I am the one who made the image but not its only postersFunny, considering you think everyone that posts Power is me >>287092577
>>287088617How’d it end?
>>287094675>Nayuta is literally Makima without the memoriesRead the manga>>287094739Go back
>>287094781Like a wet fart
>>287091991Nu-Denji seems to just be a shell of a person with no real motivation as far as we can see, like he just floats by in his day to day life.
War is sex
>>287094515I saw some retards on social media doing shipping wars, so is not only here
>>287094756Yes. It's also just plot magic you aren't supposed to put into some hard system of power scaling. Chainsaw Man's power just doesn't work how you think it does, it's not consistent or reasonable.>>287094804No argument.
>>287094487not defending the nigger rapper mention at all but seeing uncs like you still seething over zoomers in the big ‘26 will never not be a funny sight
>>287092582This honestly. In the scope of part 1, Denji was at his most stable right around here and IntAss. His full mindbreaking didn't kick in until gun or so.
>>287094675What are you talking about i completely agree with this.
>>287088617Vindicated
>>287094675retard
>>287094675this is just you trying to share the victory with nayutaphiles because makima is gonekima
>>287094978I will now read Tokyo Revengers
>>287094781>>287094812Like a shart poo, if you would.
>>287094256>senpai Denji was mentioning in the end could be himI mean, it's pretty obvious on an ending like this
>>287095152It can be Aki but it also can be Kishibe since they called him that too
>>287095204I guess that's the beauty of this ending
>>287095020It's Conquest manga. Every single panel and word in it is in her service. When she is present it's good, when she's gone it's just pointless disconnected drivel untill she's back. It started with Makima, it ended with her other version. The whole concept of Chainsaw Man only serves as something for her to be motivated by. Denji is a character that exists to be the point of view for us to see Makima. Every other character is put into context of Makima. Every single plot point starts with Makima. Everything is about her. It's impossible for her to "lose" because the moment she becomes irrelevant to the manga, the manga itself dies.
I would have liked to see a real kiss between Asa and Denji, Yoru always interfered.
>>287095222Yeah, even Reze gets the tiniest little crumb of hope with Power's cravings.
>>287095236Mind status: broken
>>287095236Trvke
I think some people are criticizing this ending just because CSMtards aren't affraid of calling shounenslop, slop.
>>287094978we will still call you illiterate without CSM because you're a fucking nigger
>>287095450And this was high grade slop.
>>287095450Probably. Most of the people who hated the ending read shit like Gayjutsu Gaysen, Warm Piss or My Pedo Academia.
Which manga did you think had a good ending?
>>287088617cheated
>>287091913>the guy is at the exact middle point between a genius and a retardmediocrity
Nayuta brings Power and Denji with her to Hokkaido on their most dangerous assignment yet. To see her... older sister?! Familial hijinks ensue as the gang meets Makima and her bodyguard Aki Hayakawa, as well as his mysterious secret angel lover.
I can somewhat understand Denji's point, masturbation works as relief, it takes your stress away but only temporarily and it makes you more irritated over time and wanting moreAfter everything that transpired it's completely reasonable that he can't keep his priorities straight, he's just coping.
>>287095525Chainsaw Man Part 1
>>287095450CSM is the sloppiest slop besides fucking idol shit. It does everything to be as shallow as possible and try to hit all the boxes to keep low IQ retards to like it.
>>287095525Zero no tsukaima
>>287095573t. /snk/fag
>>287095573>idol shit>shallowNo wonder you're incapable of enjoying CSM shounen nigger.
>>287095525Dungeon Meshi
>>287095525Chainsaw Man Part 2
>>287095558why didn't he just fuck the sushi
>>287095629Nayuta's head was right there
>>287094049Pochita's mistake was giving his powers to Denji. Denji wanted just an happy life but as soon his goal become being an hero for personal gains his life started to be more shit than before.Probably being a devil make him realize too late how dumb Denji is and how chainsawman powers wont make him free of his obessions and desires.This and the apocalypse forced him to make this reset.
>>287095568It's not the end of a manga, retard
I want to see the interactions between Asa, Power, and Nayuta
>>287095601keep crying you manga ended and it ended like shit
>>287095746Keep crying eternally in these threads with strawmans if that makes you feel better.
Part 3 should be a SoL moeslop drawn by Mengo and focused on the 4 horsemen with Nayuta as the protagonist.
>>287095797See you in the one piss thread
>>287095819You wish nigger LMAO. Makes sense something ending seems bad for you low IQ though.
>>287094978""experimental"" art is a joke
Barem deserved so much worse
>>287088617>How are we feelingLike a winner
>>287095525Fire ForceReiriSummertime RenderingHell’s ParadiseDevilmanSuicide GirlAjinMost Jojo partsShinai naru Boku e Satsui wo Komete (I dislike the second half, but the ending itself is good)Onani Master KurosawaShigurui
>>287095914Makima got retconned out of existence, it doesn't get much worse than that for him.
>>287095525At least decent? >Dungeon Meshi>Dorohedoro>DevilMan>Fire Force>Monster>Pluto>Chainsawman Part 1>Most of Jojo's>Innocent>Blade of the Immortal
>>287095525Joshi Kohei (mostly)
>>287088617>How are we feeling days after the finale?I'll tell you one thing, and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of Tatsuki Fujimoto as a mangaka just fucking plummeted.
>>287088617Disappointed more every day I wake up and realize he wasn't joking.
Fiend Power could only make simple weapons, I guess it makes sense for her to be stronger as a full Devil.
>>287094907Got off to this, thank you.
>>287095236100
>>287095959We didn't win, it was an open ending, I would have liked a real kiss between Asa and Denji
How long will these threads last? /SNK/ lasted about two months post ending.
you just know mysteries that requires fans to come up with a headcanon to explain are all dropped plot points because Fujisloppo can do subtlety with character writing sometimes but anything plot related is always done via monologue expositions
>>2870967353 years
>>287096655me reading the last chapter
I hope people will understand that Chainsaw Man Part 2 was written as a deconstruction of Part 1 and that's why Fujimoto wrote it the way he did, whether or not you found the execution satisfying.
I'm reading other manga to get over CSM. I really recommend Centuria, Julian feels like a more serious, fantasy Denji
>>287096291lmaoing @ ur lyfe
>ending
>>287096836 there's 0 hype in all these empty scenes that set up nothing. it's like being excited for a re-run of LOST
>>287096836Imagine if the ending was Yoru causing a nuclear winter, which made the Darkness Devil come and fuck everybody up, forcing Pochita to make the same sacrifice.People would have lost their shit.
is legitimately a worse writer than Gege Akutami while being 10000 times more pretentious award
>>287096878He's not like denji at all>Had horrible childhoodThat's half of manga protags, the other half had a happy childhood until everyone got massacred starting the plot
>>287096878I like Centuria a lot, but Julian has little in common with Denji personality wise.I prefer Denji, flaws and all.
>>287096855If Fujimoto ever decides to do Part 3, I think the only way forward would be a reconstruction of Chainsaw Man as a whole.Though I don't know what that would look like.
>>287096878I read it for a while when it first started, but something about the character art and setting/art design really wasn't clicking with me.
I miss him.
>>287096855i'm supposed to applaud fujimoto and give him a participation prize for making a 2/10 series as a jab at a 7/10 series?
>>287092020Part 2 starts crumbling around the Chainsawman Church arc and never recovers from there. Even the tone shifts entirely. The entire latter half of the manga is, functionally, moving from fight to fight with no payoff or real build up until the manga ends.
>>287097017Part 1 cast + Asa and the other Horsemen would probably be super popular but I think Fujimoto just wants to move on to new things
>>287097017It would just be a shonen story played straight and unsubverted. So basically the epilogue world but without the whole protagonist-stops-being-the-protagonist American Sniper theme.
>>287097066Yoshida's ending is basically the same as Denji and Asa's in that he ultimately fails to free himself of the cycle he is trapped in, i.e., Public Safety.Only with Pochita erasing himself can he get another chance.
>>287097089I think Fujimoto was pressured into shifting the focus back to Denji. That plus S1 of the anime being a meme in Japan really killed his motivation after Falling Devil arc
>>287091991A more tired version of Denji where has no other motivation other than survive.
>>287097118so it would be better than fujimoto's shitty manga
>>287097118Maybe instead of Denji becoming Chainsaw Man again, he ends up creating a new one.
>>287097153yeah
>>287097135Gods, the composition was strong then.
>>287097134fails to move out of the role, specifically, i think
What do you think his next oneshot will be about?
I want her back.
>>287097208If Yoshida's role occured in Part 1, he probably would have ended up rejecting PS and would have died trying to help Denji like Power, or would have been killed like Aki.
>>287097220Obviously a manga equivalent of masturbation themed around people not accepting the manga endings
>>287088617lol
>>287097017There's a lot of avenues to make it interesting. I have a few ideas I think would be neat. Could be the horsemen as proper villains instead of a gaggle of clowns. The journey would be very remixed, with Denji and Power being trained by Aki and maybe Kishibe, both of which are out of PS but remain as instructors. Reze (with or without hybrid/assassin powers) could transfer into Asa's school and run a parallel plot where they end up creating a private sector Devil Hunting group (without the shitty church characters) and run their own adventure until it collides with the main plot. Nayuta would also possibly start showing some Makima signs here and there, leaving a weird unease that doesn't give definitive answers until some defining moment where she's revealed as a villain or the product of being loved.Its all bullshit and trite but I'll probably make a fic out of this.
>>287096939Gege at least admits his flaws and he tried to improve with Modulo
>>287089937We were never shown otherwise, so we can conclude that she wanted to fuck Denji as badly as Yoru did
>>287097284I can't break this lingering curse. I keep thinking about her.
>>287097591all of gege's flaws as a writer were much worse and more pronounced in modulo
>>287097220A washed-up mangaka struggling to get published after a major fuck up, while dogging assassination attempts from former fans.
>>287097703That's a big hand.
>>287094978kek, how did they get a chimpanzee to do the artwork for them?
>>287097608I think Asa was sexually attracted to Denji but didn't want to have sex with with because of how fucked up everything had gotten.Yoru feels the same emotions Asa does and thinks it's just better for them all to fuck, whether or not Asa consents.
>>287097017Story should be something more plot focused to be entertaining and maintain the characters "progress". The problem is that Fujimoto doesn't do plot focused stories, he cares more about characters internal feelings. For the setting it would be something with lower stakes, something more like a police story rather than a superhero one, like Denji and Power trying to catch a serial killer, while having Asa and Denji's relationship as a subplot
>>287097703Chapter 98 is the best looking Chainsaw Man chapter.
>>287097761Two years to make it. There wasn't much time on the rest though.
The ending seems to signify that everyones lives are largely better with Chainsaw Man gone.But maybe something will happen where they will really need a Devil to get erased.
>>287096821>Fujisloppo can do subtlety with character writing sometimes Like when?>but anything plot related is always done via monologue expositionsThat's true
>>287097748Part 2 started pretty small scale and only got really crazy after Nayuta's death.
>>287097798Somehow 4 different alternatives for death and the star that makes children go mad had no affect on the world though.
>>287088617Good, Power is back and won.
>>287097830Yeah but Pochita's power was what allowed that, and as I say Denji was a superhero there, now he is closer to a police officer, the setting is better suited for a lower scale and Fujimoto can make a shorter series, maybe something episodic like Rohan's spin off from jojos
>>287097381>masturbation themed around people not accepting the manga endingsMasturbation in a physical or metaphorical way? Masturbating to bad manga endings?
>>287096821That's a retarded take. He often does plotpoints with no text at all or even without pictures. You're probably referring to part one finale. But even then you're just ignoring every death that happens and every part of every fight.
>>287097809>Like when?characters that don't have much screentime and die for shock value like Himeno and Yuko get to have better and more complete arcs instead of getting lost in the sauce because Fujimoto can't write an overarching plot
>>287097798Isn't Death still going to be a problem regardless of all of the changes?
Fujimoto was clearly tired of drawing this shit, he should just go back to making one shots
>>287097907Metaphorical
>>287088617General doesn't need to exist anymore btw
>>287097748Denji, as of right now, I'm reopening the Chenso-files.
>>287097912Do you even know what the word "plot" means? Hint: it's not the same as "story"
>>287097922I think he should just go back to making what he knew. Which is CSM part one.
>>287097912This, I had to fucking look up discussion on chapter 190 to even understand that the fuck was happening with the octopus devil. And I still think it's a stretch.
>>287097137I'll always feel that Fujimoto wasted Asa's character... she could easily have been the best character in the series, but I still love her I loved that Fujimoto dared to change the protagonist for the second part, but as time went on and Denji returned to the manga, her role diminished considerably, and what little she had was stolen by Yoru.I don't know if it was due to pressure from the fandom or the publisher to make Denji have a centered role in the second part, where he wasn't supposed to be the protagonist
>>287097961Yes. Do you?
This was obvious when Lin forced him to divert back to Denji-centrism instead of the Asa story he actually wanted to write. Editor meddling after the lack in interest of Asa Yuko lesbo BFF adventures
>>287097997I think it's pretty clear they were always supposed to be co-leads, and he just fumbled the balance.
>>287097920The prophecy seemed self-fufiling to me.As long as Death doesn't get the idea to prevent the prophecy in her head, things should turn out fine.
>>287098056She literally says it would eventually happen in her sleep even if she didn't do anything about it.I don't see why any changes made to this timeline would change that inevitability. At most it would change when it happens a little.
Fujimoto manga:20% genuinely entertaining happening20% completely unintentional peak character work20% trying to be funny20% cliffhangers10% reverting the cliffhangers5% repeated panels5% blank pages
>>287098013>n-no it's not fujimoto's fault my cult leader could never do anything wrong it's the schedule it's the editor it's the other fans pressuring him it's the cia it's aliens. please. any reason but fujimoto's personal flaws, which don't exist
>>287098097The apocalypse only started because death was trying to prevent it using chainsaw man. No chainsaw man, no problem.
>>287098129I don't see how this exonerates Fujimoto, it just shows how he got to this point.
>>287096621Nah, that was a victory. Fujimoto wouldn't have given them that whole meet-cute sequence if he wasn't trying to say something.
>>287097953It has to.... for her....
>>287098097Death said it would happen due to something occuring in the future that would make everyone afraid of death all at once.Death's actions just made people more afraid of dying before she got erased.
the newcomer "visionary genius auteur" that has no vision and is easily pressured by outside factors
>>287098170Anything for my beloved.
>>287098135>>287098173Wasn't that from insecurity regarding a prediction from Nostradamus? Which we should assume still happened?
>>287088617Already moved in. Part 2 was garbage long enough for me to stop caring.
>>287098169>wouldn't have given them that>if he wasn't trying to say something.I don't know how anyone can still use this line of reasoning after more than 130 chapters of Part 2.
>>287098243This, barely anything stuck with me.
Are you really a professional mangaka if you only stick the landing 30% of the time?
>>287098013>reeeeee no wan rikes my retarded femcel AIEEEEEE
>>287098292you can be a professional mangaka and stick the landing zero times
>>287098292no. every story where people say "the ending was bad" is shit the entire way through
>>287098306Fujimoto really looked at the top 3 and thought>Yeah, now I know who not to put in my fanservice finale>I love Reze though
>>287098306>ISSA MOVIE POLL
reze was written out of the story because having the presence of a female character that is romantically interested in denji would undermine part 2's contrived moral dilemmas
>it's actually over
>>287098392I'm sure when shart poo is animated by JC Staff they'll definitely all love Troonsa by then.
>>287098411Scratch that. She wasn't even written out, just straight up memory-holed. Complete hack move.
>>287098435kek>>287098445It's not over until we find out what's in those missing pages.
>>287098411reze should have just died in her arc. it was the perfect sendoff
>>287088617The worst thing a story can do is make you feel like you've wasted your time and emotional investment.
>>287098306Why the fuck is the puking eyepatch bitch fucking everywhere if she's not even in the top ten?
>>287098490>wastedWorse.The author has his mouthpiece say it was all one big mistake and that, whenever our protagonist was bonding with other people and making memories with them, actually he was never as happy as he was in chapter 1 instead.
>>287098473>what's in those missing pages.
>>287098570Denji sure didn't look happy in chapter 1.
>>287098516Her character has too small of a role to be a favorite, but she's very fun and well written, so she still gets motion online
>>287098411He wanted go avoid waifu wars for most o part 2. He changed his mind with the ending
>>287095236i would think you makimafags would learn some humility after the finale completely and utterly blew you the fuck out, but i guess i expected too much from third worlders
>Twitter Negroes are mad at CSM chadsForever funny
I just finished Dorohedoro and I have to say I like CSM ending a lot moreYou gonna show Nikaido ass and tits the entire manga but making her the protagonist's gf is too much?Also the entire ravioli magic and gags are too much we get it you like chink ravioliWe are over reacting a bit
>>287098634Funny enough, Himeno was going to be Aki's sister and Denji's buddy in the original script of the manga
>>287098653Those fucking gifs of that fucking cunt streamer everyone posts are fucking nauseating.
>>287098657Why are new gen mangakas so afraid of letting the MC have a girlfriend?
>>287098647I'm actually a powerbro. It's just the truth. Anyone who has any comprehension of manga knows it.
>>287097941How would it be portrayed?
>>287098473>>287098592I don't know if we'll get a multi-page Omake, an epilogue, or just Fuljimoto's acknowledgments.
>>287098751no you aren’t
>>287098653that's the target audience of your pretentious shonenslop, pseud. it literally has a netflix-exclusive adaptation by mappa.
>>287098657Dorohedoro didn't have an ending. It just went on and on untill it stopped. Kind of similar to CSM desu. >>287098704Cowardice probably. Giving the MC a gf at the wrong moment can ruin the story. You gotta do it at the very end or people will just drop it.
>>287098784maybe a mix
>>287098704It would have at least made some sense if she wasnt sexualized for 163 chapters but doing the "I dont want the girl to be a price" when she was objectified through and throughHell she was an airhead with her ass out during the entire final arc
>>287098784we will get 4-koma poochita gags
>>287096889>it's like being excited for a re-run of LOSTWhat's wrong with that?
>>287098411This is exactly what happened to Kishibe, Kobeni and Nayuta. Nayuta was the only vestigal element of part 1 that Fujimoto could not easily excise. With all four together, Denji has:>a support system>loved ones>people who actually know himIt's very clearly purposeful too, because half the fucking part 2 cast is functionally bad clones of these characters to make you feel worse for Denji for having literally no friends or anything good in his life.
>>287098878there was absolutely no reason for kishibe to be written out of the story
The volume extras will change EVERYTHING.
>>287098861well if you're in full acceptance and admit that fujimoto is jj abrams then that's okay
>>287098791Why though?
>>287098898
>>287098878>Denji for having literally no friends or anything good in his life.While she's pretty funny, I think Fumiko's introduction is when I realized basically every Part 2 character was going to be some kind of plot device to torture Denji instead of genuinely supporting him.
>>287098878Nayuta and Kishibe had no reason to be written out of the storyNayuta was both a source of conflict and confort for Denji and Kishibe joining his allies is not so different from Quanxi or Shadman doing it
>>287098481even if hybrids can’t die, makima could have just removed her heart
>>287098989Would have clashed with her plan to challenge Pochita with the hybrids.
>>287095450>I think some people are criticizing this ending just because CSMtards aren't affraid of calling shounenslop, slop.So CSMtards realized they were just reading slop and are calling it slop or other people are calling it slop because CSMtards called other shounenslop, slop?
>owns part 2
>>287099090who the fuck even is this
>>287098966Kishibe has to be written out because otherwise it makes no sense for Public Safety to be bumbling incompetent retards who want to control Chainsawman, which invalidates Yoshida, which invalidates Barem as his juxtaposition, which invalidates Death and her 'master plan'.There is no excuse for Nayuta. The moment her head appeared on the sushi conveyor belt is the exact moment I think a lot of people lost faith.
>>287095236The powertanny HATED this trvke, boss
I'm sad Future devil never came back desu.
Cuteeeee
>>287099104>the master strategist of part2>Asa's mentor>terror incarnate>highest k/d/a in the entire series>doesn't know who she is>doesn't know what she does>saves denji>drifts off into the abyss>retires as the goat
Will Power and Kobeni meet again?
>>287099305Kobeni is a prostitute in reset world BTW
>>287099090My Shigger
>>287099275I really want to enjoy this, but I can't knowing these aren't the same characters
>>287099320She still picks devil hunting and probably has much easier time in the field
>>287099352Some of you people missed the stage of brain development that lets you recognize that characters aren't real and they're actually just drawings.
>>287099090Series should have ended with Denji choosing voluntarily to part ways with Pochita and getting the heart transplant she suggested.
>>287099415Sheesh, sorry for getting invested in media
>>287099415>stop discussing anime and manga>/a/ - anime and manga
>>287099445Denji making the choice in the end would have been way better than what we got
>>287099445>she suggested
>>287099352The literal two next pages show that deep down they still remember
>>287099489>>287099601I'm just saying you take shit too literally to the point that you headcannon that it's not the same characters instead of just reading and enjoying what you see
>>287099696>just look at the pretty picturesAverage ending enjoyer. kek
>>287099445>>287099667Pochita was the one who made Denji Chainsaw Man in the first place, which doomed him to a cycle of loss and degradation.It was only fitting for Pochita to be the one who set him free.
>>287099696>stop discussing anime and mangaI genuinely don't understand. If you want people to just say>wow!>cool!>haha epic!and get upvotes, you have a website for that.
>>287099742just listen to the song
>>287099837>It was only fitting for Denji to be a retard with no growth whatsoever who gets forcibly saved by a deus ex machina where he gets isekai'd into an AU where he gets to survive and live even without Pochita around
>>287088617I liked it.
>>287099899Either that or keep on writing essays about how something is inconsistent and if it was real it would not be like in the manga
>>287099928Denji couldn't properly grow with the burden of Chainsaw Man inside of him.And Pochita was basically his deus ex machina starting from chapter 1.The point is Denji can live without Pochita and Chainsaw Man.
>>287099928Denji only gets to survive in the new timeline because of the relationships he developed while being CSM, like Power fixing his heart, or Nayuta being a good version of Conquest.And with Pochita being out of the equation, he has a fair shot at life where the entire world isn't trying to constantly make him miserable to exploit CSM's powers.
>>287099899I think I'll just consume works that actually respect my time and my intelligence instead of clapping like a seal for whatever Fujimoto shits out.
>>287100056>>287100045>Maybe in a life without CSM, you could be happy>And by that, I mean a life without all the downsides of having been CSM and with all the benefits of having been CSMkek, so much for life being made of both good and bad things.
>>287099928Pochita and Chainsaw Man destroyed his life in the first place.
>>287100122There are still plenty of bad things in this new world.Who knows if it will all work out?But there's now more hope than in the old world.Fujimoto probably wanted to leave it open ended in case he ever decides to come back though.
>>287099928Pochita might still be alive. Either Asa’s sperg behavior brought him back as a concept, or he’s still Denji’s heart, which is why he still smells like a dog.
>>287100122Denji is still a fucked up orphan who sold half of his organs, murdered his father, and grew up killing devils as his own means of survival.You're basically saying he has a perfect life because he's got 1(one) friend and a job.
>>287100161>Pochita and Chainsaw Man destroyed his life in the first place.Pochita allowed him to live when he was a suicidal kid whom the yakuza was going to kill, Fujimoto being a hack who just skipped to the Zombie Devil encounter in his teenhood for this reset is another story.
>>287100122Chainsaw Man didn’t make friends with Power, kill Makima, or raise Nayuta with genuine love. Denji did.
>>287100237>Denji is still a fucked up orphan who sold half of his organs, murdered his father, and grew up killing devils as his own means of survival.>You're basically saying he has a perfect lifePochita said he was far happier this way than being CSM, not me.
>>287100276Retards misunderstanding Pochita's dialogue got mad at the ending because they expected misery porn.
>>287100242It went there because that was the day Pochita made his contract with Denji to become his new heart, and let him become Chainsaw Man. Pochita specifically chose to break off that contract when he ate himself.
>>287100274Denji got do to all those things because he fused with Pochita in first place.Besides, >>287100242
>>287100310NTA but all of CSM is misery porn and it's ending is just>yeah that was really fucked
>>287100338>Pochitasaid he wanted a world where CSM never existed.Which should include his initial encounter with Pochita, where they make their "first" contract.This doesn't happen because it's not convenient for Fujimoto.
>>287100426I have found two explanations: Pochita erased himself but he was a constant of reality, that's the reason he's still there.Pochita's erasure is messy, since humanity is never static the erasure rearranged the world so as to have Pochita not exist.They're not bulletproof but they work well enough.
>>287100310I saw 150 threads of redditze xhirs complaining about the ending then picked up the thing and read it in day and a half. Ending is actually great.
>>287100426But Denji was still the one to do those things at the end of the day. That’s why his actions and relationships carried over to the new world.
>>287100378Not really. All that suffering Denji went through still amounted to something in the end. And even if things are uncertain for him now, he still has a real chance of being happy now, and he’s content with life instead of always lusting for more.
>>287100795>All that suffering Denji went through still amounted to something in the endHow did what he went through change or affect the reset. Put differently, if Pochita hypothetically decided to eat himself in Chapter 1, would this new world be any different?
>>287100743>>287100122
>>287100863Power and Nayuta for one. Power at the start of Part 1 would never say that she liked anything other than herself, let alone dogs. Denji’s relationship and contract with her resulted in them finding each other again, and her friendliness towards him. Nayuta’s existance and demeanor are also Denji’s doing. Denji’s actions persisted in the new world, which included him killing Makima, and raising Nayuta with love. Even if none of them will remember what happened before, there’s still a closeness that binds them together. That same closeness is why Denji decided to save Asa from tripping too.
why does part 2 exist
>>287100985There were no benefits in being Chainsaw Man.
Despite how much I would want it to happen, I think Reze being brought back would be a red flag for the series, because it would be such an obvious cashing in of fan service.
