hopes for S2?
>>287093717Not enough manga left for a full season, but maybe we can get some OVAs to cover the rest? Right??Do they still do less than 1 cour length sequels?
You're the most important girl in the world, Asa.
Being afraid that you'll never achieve your dreams because of a great conspiracy against your entire sex is something that you're very justified to be concerned about.
Live, /a/.
>>287093717I can't believe we got belly service in this anime.
>>287094220I’m fucking trying!
For people that read Japanese what does this cover say?Anything interesting?>>287094228We live in a better world for getting some defenseless hag tummy.
What an elegant and dignified mature woman.
>>287094345>For people that read Japanese what does this cover say?The title literally got translated about two cuts prior to your screenshot...
>>287094345Looking at it clean, the yellow text says something like "Once you read it, you'll want to tell someone," the circle says "Koudai Makio's long awaited new work!!" and the vertical text is cut off but says something like "Is there someone, or something, that you are in love with?"
In the end, Emiri was still a pretty useless friend
>>287094645Why? She recorded and sent the video to Makio.
I remember seeing Slavoj Zizek go on one of his sniffling rants about this. That the most human thing in the world is to try your best at something and fail at it, because the process of trying against all odds is where fulfillment comes from.
OLDmiri
Lmao.
>>287094400
>>287094220
>>287094797Still very sexy.
Makio is a pretentious geezer who doesn't even realize it.
>>287093827I can see them doing a series of OVAs as a sequel like Heya Camp or Aria the Avvenire
In which episode did you drop this anime?
>>287095054Episode 14.
>>287095054In 14th.
>>287094553Someone should kill this designer and their fucking fancy font>みかづき（三日月）たまねぎ （たまねぎ）恋してなに色？I have no clue what "mikatzuki tamanegi" means. Could be some way to cut onions, maybe a proper name but it makes no sense to me. If the girl's hair is supposed to look like a full round onion, how is that crescent shaped.
wait, so they skipped a bunch of stuff and still they didn't reach the end of the manga? what's the point of skipping stuff then?
>>287095200The manga was too long for a 13 episode adaptation. The anime basically chose a certain climax chapter as the finale and worked backwards to select what would stay and what wouldn't stay. The biggest thing to lose was Asa's struggle over understanding her father which started before the chosen climax and dragged on for a while after. So it made more sense to remove most of that struggle rather than end it half-way. The anime ties up in a neater package for it. To be fair the manga didn't give a strong resolution climactic resolution to the struggle. Asa's attempt to understand her father had a more vague resolution.
>>287095054I soft dropped it (that is, my heart wasn't in it but I felt compelled to see it through) a few episodes back. The characters turn out to be too simple, there is too much focus on Asa, and sure enough it all leads up to this perfect normalfag catharsis that makes me physically sick to watch. I wanted more Makio, more broken people that stay broken, more uncertainty.
>>287095180>I have no clue what "mikatzuki tamanegi" means.Maybe her hair is a clue.
The author really loved Mad Max Fury Road, didn't she?
Could've inserted the Emiri and Asa coming out conversation instead of wasting 10 minutes on the guy talk last episode.
>>287095402They're both attractive women living in a westernized society, they'll be okay no matter what.
>>287095488Looks like this. Itʼs not the first mentioned here.
>>287095054I speed watched the last four episodes before the last one desuIt got boring and it was clear there was gonna be no resolution to anything
Hag agenda.
>>287095497I'm really surprised that got left out of all things. Show has been pretty blunt about Asa and Emiri feeling like there's a distance between them and not adding the coming out scene to tie them back together is really weird.
>>287093827I think some stream service can buy a ONA season for the remaining episodes, fans of this one are normie and gay enough to interest western corpos.
>>287094645What did you want her to do? Somehow replace Asa's feelings of uncertainty about her place in the world with something else?
>>287095463Does this hair style look like a crescent moon to you?
>>287095401Makio was never broken or dysfunctional. But it is fair to say that the show is a bit too saccharine regarding the conclusions to Asa's struggle for identity. But it did qualify that with saying that you can't force help onto others and just because you dream about your actions helping others, doesn't mean that they will.
honestly, what a shit endingwhat a waste of time
Does it end on an anime original ending? If not then there is a chance of an OVA continuation. I don't think they will release a movie for this.
>>287095837What did you dislike?
What is the ending in the manga? Do we actually get a resolution for makio's hatred of her sister? Does she get together with her simp editor? Does emiri gay marry her lesbian lover? Did Asa's father hate her?Wtf?
>>287095977The ending doesn't exclude anything that came after in the manga. It just turns a certain major chapter into a finale but not to the exclusion of other stuff.
>>287095977>Does it end on an anime original ending?The ending is basically the ending of the manga, except slightly modified.
>>287095986>Do we actually get a resolution for makio's hatred of her sister?Sorta? Kinda?
>>287095977>>287095986There is still 5 volumes after this, it just acted as if it was an ending due to it's episodic nature. All these plot points get addressed except Makio hate, but you can't deduce what it is. Emiri /u/ thing gets it's "conclusion" exactly the 2 chapters if ya wanna check it.
fucking foids........
>>287096065>you can deduce what it is>exactly in the next 2 chaptersFix'd.
Gonna be honest guys, I preferred the manga much more than the anime for this one. They had to cut and abridge a lot of cool shit to fit the anime format, all for it to not be visually as interesting as the source work.One good thing it did though is it attracted more people to Yamashita Tomoko works, since no one gave a fuck about her before aside from some tumblr foids. It already garnered a new audience though, so what purpose would a S2 achieve? What would you guys want to see you can't with the manga?Also I particularly hate they overdramatized this singing thing just because it's the last EP. It's just some students singing in the hallway, don't act like you're Haruhi lmao.
>>287095823>Makio was never broken or dysfunctional.You're right, but it does bait you into thinking so at the start.
>>287096211welp i guess i gotta start the manga at some point (hopefully before the daily threads end)
>>287093717i dont get it
>>287096068Emily should've just kicked him in the balls.
>>287095401>>287095823yeah I don't remember why but I thought this show would've been more about Makio instead of it feeling like 75% Asa
>>287095401>there is too much focus on AsaThat is a thing I didn't like about the adaptation too, there are whole chapters where Asa barely appears in the source material, even though she is mostly always mentioned somehow. It's all mostly here too, but always edited in such a way to give focus to Asa.
>>287096304wait i meant to give a (You) to >>287096231
>>287095986Kasamachi and Makio have been fucking for a while by the anime finale. They cut a little half-chapter of them talking after sex in bed.
>>287096279that would've made Emiri even sexier thoughever
>>287096211Personally I preferred the presentation of the anime simply because it was easier to follow the dialog. Yamashita has a lot of pages where, at least in the English TL, it is hard to tell who is saying what and when. Where the anime made that a lot more comprehensible. I'm also a sap so I liked how it upped the sense of drama to a lot of things.
>>287095054I did make it until the end but looking back I should have dropped it after like 6 or 7 episodes.The second half was mostly boring.
>>287096304Well, the beginning was fairly split between them. Asa took more of a protagonist role as it went on, where Makio became less of a POV character and more of a figure we perceive from the outside.
>>287095488cringe
Now that it's all said and done, how much did the anime cut/change?>>287095180>Could be some way to cut onionsI think it's when you cut one in half, then vertically slice along the grooves to end up with thin crescent strips.The individual strands lightly resemble something like that.
>>287096486Asa is way too easily impressed.
>>287096592Asa is a dumb little mutt.
>>287096564Intimacy between Makio and Kasamachi. Some set up for Asa's struggle with her father's personality.If you just start reading from like chapter 30, you won't lose much.
the moment I lost interest
>>287096211Ditto Asa is so cute
As adoptive daughter kinos go this season, Asa was mogged by pic related.
Is the manga ending more conclusive? As in giving better conclusion to all the characters? I get what this episode was going for but as a conclusion it just didn't feel that satisfying. Honestly I think this was the weakest episode of the series.
For anyone looking to continue with the series, I'd recommend starting with Volume 7, chapters 31-35.
>>287094797>hasn't kept up with Makio over the yearsdamn, I thought they were kindred spirits
ayy
Is Emiri still lusting after Makio's hairy pussy?
>>287097068I will read it from the beginning.
>>287097144Yes.
>>287096998This. It felt rushed as well. Any chances of getting the remaining chapters adapted?
>>287096396Well, fair enough, I had to go back sometimes to clear up what was going on, although if you focus a bit more this becomes less of a issue.>>287096396It's mostly that it strimmed a lot of stuff rather than cut it. It's a very dialogue heavy work with a lot of banter, so they end up cutting a lot of it while only saying the important bits. It works sometimes, but most of it turns out really shallow. >>287096815 for instance is contained into a single chapter about "le toxic masculinity™", and dives much deeper into the subject (even if kind misleading since, you know, woman author), meanwhile the anime scatters it through out EP 11 to 12 and pretty much only delves into the issue with this discussion out of nowhere, while also abridging it, making it look like a very tumbleresque strawman when it really isn't. You noticed this baseball thing was about da mans? Doubt any anime only would.Things only really started being left out Vol 7 afterwards like others mentioned (some of Vol 6 too but nothing major), so you can read from there, but I would recommend starting from the beginning so you can grasp things much better.
I fucking loved it. Teared up a bit when Asa finished the song. Loved the series, loved the OST, loved the cast. Almost every episode made me emotional or made me think a lot about these characters, sometimes both. Easily my AOTS, gonna be a strong contender for AOTY too. Threads were also comfy until the previous episode, so cheers to all anons who were here to discuss the series in-depth instead of shitflinging.
>>287096998>>287096065
>makio writes this kind of garbage
>>287097370Fuck I wanted to quote >>287096564
>>287097469yes we've known for a while she writes only for the lowest common denominator (her)
The screenplay for the adaptation was quiet good, maybe except for the last episode. Also the voice actors delivered, Asa, Makio and Kasamichi especially. Then again I wouldn't mind listening to Sawashiro moaning.
>>287097469The part about the protag losing his/her dragon and walking alone on the sea shore was which Asa read was hard hitting. Makio knows how to write.
>5 minutes into an interview and she gives you this lookWhat do?
I will miss Asa's funny faces.
>>287097607>*unzip dick*>you want to sell your books, right?
>>287097607I switch into forward young man mode.
>>287097469>judging a non existent book by its cover
>>287097671Yes.
>>287097469would it be better if she was writing generic isekai garbage or something?
>>287097671What do you expect of the average /a/utist? Anime and manga are visual mediums. Their brains have been literally trained to pick up things based on visuals alone.
>>287093717imagine the sex
>>287097671And its absolutely retarded title.
>>287097746the dude even looks like kasamachi..................
Will Makio ever have children of her own in the future despite her personality, life style and after getting experience of a guardian with Asa?
>>287097836I don't see any reason she would honestly. She probably will just accept Asa as her daughter in the end.
this was always her story.
>>287097469Reminded me of Higashimura, not sure why, she doesn't have a single cover like that.
>>287097904I enjoyed tokyo tarereba girlsI should get around to the sequel at some pointand also the author's autobiography
>>287097813Why didn't they adapt their sex scene..........
>>287097875Abe will make sure that Kasamichi pumps at least 2 children into that autistic belly.
this retard is so fucking stupid
Makio is talking in riddles again...
what a bitchwouldn't even tell him she likes vagina
>>287098177Nihongo de shabette
>opening skipped>but actually played as insert songKino
useless male
>>287098305He almost just me, fr fr.Almost, because I donʼt have a wife, nor a daughter.
Was that 10 years into the future bit skipping to the end of the manga?
>>287098305a lesson that even if (You) procreate, (You) will achieve nothing
change ZA WARUDO with your ONGAKU
what was the message? that tragedy won't shape you into a new person?
>>287098305he raped Asa's mom didn't he
>>287098456I can see Asa's mom raping him
>>287098456Asa's mom raping him would be much more likely.
>>287098398When you raise a puppy don't insist your favorite dog food is the best.
>>287098485>>287098494Should have been me.
>>287096180The part where it flashes through all their walks got me bad.
>>287098377I don't like music.
>>287098208It's none of his fucking business.
How do I become a middle aged hag writer? How should I even get started?
>>287097144I mean who wouldn't
>>287097370>>287096680I tried the daily but it was way too similar to the anime, guess I'll try again from 30.
Where is my pack...I walk a lonely road.
they knew Asa and Makio's story was fucking boring so they focused on validating best girl Chiyo.also this fucker just dies.
>>287098760The early stuff isn't really different enough to be all that interesting if you just watched the anime. The end of vol 6, start of vol 7 is where Yamashita starts introducing the Father Plotline, so that is where its worth picking up if you just want the new stuff. Only a bit of rereading.
>>287098840Like, there are bits of different stuff that changes one's interpretations. Asa's Grandmother made her identify her parent's corpses in the manga, but that line was cut from the anime to make her more sympathetic, as an example. But you get mostly the same experience overall, for the first half.
ayyy
>>287098840>The early stuff isn't really different enough to be all that interesting if you just watched the anime.There's a lot more details since the anime had to skip stuff though, so I wouldn't say it's completely uninteresting.
I liked the last episode as a manga reader, it hurts a little not to see Makio's resolution, but seeing how josei anime are being so butched in recent Adaptations I think this is the best result; you can tell the staff loves this manga, and I manage to convey the message of the work itself, the connections, and Overcome life to change the lives of people, the world, and your loved ones and seeing Asa sing the opening brought a tear to my eye.
>>287099035*They
>>287099339Music girl is so pretty.
The entire anime Makio has been dropping down to earth truth bombs and it ends with Asa wanting to change the hecking world trough singing?
>>287099429A hag among teens.
It was extremely good for the first two thirds or so, last few episodes felt aimless in comparisonStrong 8 to a weak 9
>>287099479Carl is a honorary hag
>>287099429
>>287099458yeah
Well, I really liked it overall, but I thought this last episode was a little underwhelming. Everything involving Asa and Makio learning to coexist was great, and since that was more or less resolved already, this was just tying up Asa's character arc (but even then, it was already more or less done). I think most of the side characters were either underutilised or just not very interesting in the first place, but Makio's perspectives on life were always interesting, and Asa was cute and endearing. I'd give it like an 8.5 in the end. Really it just needed Makio in every scene, then it would be my aots.
>anime for gays and fujoshinah
>>287099429Pretty good considering popularity levels.
>>287099429She feels so out of place in that list.Which i guess is fitting.
>>287093903it would be a horrid idictment of your character if your daughter was not the most important girl in the entire world.
>>287096068Why'd she give him this non-answer instead of just giving a vague but earnest answer, or even just making some bullshit excuse up? I don't think it's because she considered telling him the truth for a second and then backed out, but then surely she'd have made up an excuse to use instead then? She really seems to hate this guy's guts based on her demeanor.
>No lesbian reveal>no last scene from the last chapterAll in all i think the anime is way weaker than the manga, especially after asa finally feels her parent's death. >>287097085I think this was more dream.
>>287095488engrish cringe
>>287096068this jap shit of a rando coming over and wanting to date you is retarded. When i was a young retard i thought this was how things worked and got burned. Her answer should be "i don't even know you dude"
>>287097469>he vampired billionarily across the room
>>287099429>oshi no ko taking so many placesPeople really are tasteless retards, aren't they.
>>287097370>le nuanced manga pageWomen honestly need to shut the fuck up about manhood and masculinity.They have nothing to say about it other than variations on "buy why isn't this more feminine instead???"
>>287100445Who fucking wouldn't hate a guy like that? He's demanding some kind of a fucking reason as if he's entitled to one just because he confessed.
>>287100940Demanding? He simply asked.Interesting how men are always supposed to consider women's feelings but men can go fuck themselves.
>>287101016The thing is, he has no real feelings for Emiri.He barely knows her.
WITNESSED
>>287100940You could just say "sorry, I just don't find you attractive" and that would be a thousand times better than going;>ehhhhh? A reason? I don't know, see ya lolShe couldn't give him the time of day.
>>287101170I forgot that women are so used to getting attention that being confessed to is a nuisance.
>>287101270is it possible to be much ruder than making a face of pure disgust while basically going "ew did you really just ask that?"
>>287101392getting cornered by someone and demanding an explanation why you don't care for them when you barely know them is a shitty experience no matter your gender or past experiences.
>>287101392I've been on the other end twice. Once when an ugly girl asked me out and then when some dude did. On both occasions I was honestly disgusted that they had fantasized themselves being with me. It put things into perspective.
>>287101468I think people genuinely can't conceptualize this sort of experience unless they've been in that same situation.It's surprisingly common for men as well as women.
>>287101468>On both occasions I was honestly disgusted that they had fantasized themselves being with meWhat a lovely person you must be.
>>287101392Would you really jump at the first random woman to ask to go out with you, without even caring about her? Come on, dude.
LISTEN TO MY SONG
>>287101548you'll understand when you get unwanted attention of that sort
>>287101422wdym he cornered himself (physically speaking). Emiri just walked away the second something else had her attention.him saying "I'm still not convinced" was pretty cringe though
>skip to the last chapter of the manga>Makio cries over the idea of Asa leaving herDamn, kind of hope they get an OVA or something.
>>287101548You don't even have to be a chad to get this. I mean if you're a true, st blackops-tier case, my condolences I guess, but otherwise surely you must have had at least one case of unwanted attention in your life? Did you never work in the service industry (something everyone should be legally required to do for a year btw, just to humble you) and have a disgusting gay guy approach you?
>>287101468>I was honestly disgusted that they had fantasized themselves being with meI'm sorry but that sounds completely narcissistic no matter which way I look at it. If they're ugly just tell them, but don't look down on them for working up the courage to confess. Unless they're being especially creepy but then we're talking about something that isn't a run-of-the-mill highschool confession like the one in the episode.
>>287101705>work>disgusting gay guy approach youwhat? just do your job and move on to the next customer. if the customer's not doing anything bad aside from being physically repulsive than why ruminate on it? there's much more disruptive people worth dedicating energy to
>>287101596Anon, this is someone she has to see every day for the next 2 years. Her response to this interaction will affect her immediate future for quite a while.It's a very uncomfortable situation to be in and one you don't have experience with if you are young. Even as a man, if you're older, you'll have some experience with turning down people's advances.
>>287101569I'm starting to suspect that you are a actual woman, because hell yeah your average HS guy would love to be confessed to be a random girl, are you kidding me?
>>287101939One you are barely aware of? Dude, not even teenagers are that desperate for attention.
>>287101962Yes they are, you really are a woman, aren't you?
>>287100445is that the guy Asa said Emiri turned down offscreen earlier in the season? is the impression we're supposed to get form the guy's that he's really clingy?
What was the point of the big blonde dude that seemed to like the doctor girl?
>>287102002I'm a guy that was a teenager and I was not that desperate for female attention that any chick who 'confessed' their love for me, would have had me excited to date them. And I was no social butterfly and was instead a total virgin. Even still, that level of desperation is overkill.
>>287102046Male simp (hot and tall of course)
>>287102046It was literally spelled out in this very episode.
>>287102046Give you some hope for a better future and a chance to cover ways people try to help others. He felt terrible about his friend's suffering and wants to help her however he can, even if ultimately his efficacy or impact on her will be unknown.
>>287100710Do you think you are a man just because you're retarded or something.
>>287102046To make a Kasamachi allusion to the Makio allusion lol.
>>287102046why do all characters have to have purposes now ffs is this some kind of shounen brainrot thing?
good finale, going to miss them
>>287096065>episodic naturewish i knew this before i started the anime
>>287102206it was a nice bit of closure
>>287093717Makio's tummy can't be this erotic wtf
>>287102190Because there's a limited amount of screentime and spending time on irrelevant characters means there's less time devoted to characters that viewers likely have an attachment to.
Post this dog
>>287095054After 13Couldn't bear to watch it anymore
>>287102625soft puppy warm puppy
>>287096180This is emotionally manipulative and it hurts me physicallyNot fucking fair
>>287102625
>>287102046Have you considered paying attention when watching the episodeJesus christ
>>287102777I paid attention and found the "payoff" to be incredibly lackluster and not worth the time spent on this character.
>>287096211I dropped the manga because the early chappys felt like they were very directly and faithfully adapted, out of the 14 or so chappys I read I think I noticed one story change? It just felt like I was experiencing the anime again, which I didn't care to do so soon. Perhaps in the future I'll pick it up and properly read it. Overall, I liked the anime and I thought that everything up to the emotional climax of asa finally accepting her parent's deaths was very good. It was a poignant scene and it did a great job of earning that emotion. But afterwards, the story just sort of meandered until the end. I understand that the point is that asa feels lost and aimless, so it makes thematic sense that the plot and episodes feel like that, too, but I think it would have greatly benefited from either an increase in Makio screentime and a greater focus on her struggle to come to terms with her sister, or, more radically, shift perspectives entirely so that Makio is center stage for the second half and that inner conflict is futher explored. Perhaps saving the rest of the asa feels retarded plot for a s2, if there could be one. Still, the anime had pretty visuals and music, especially asa's voice, super pretty, and it resonated with me as a whole. I would probably give it a solid 8 if I had to give it a number, but I'm being quite generous and forgiving of the second arc because I liked the first so much. If I were being more objective, a 7 probably suits the anime better
>>287102804Yeah 8 seconds of screentime is such a major investment
>>287097469She writes for herself, meaning, she is still mentally a tween
I think we can all agree the show went downhill after Asa finally mourned her parents
>>287097836She's too old for it nowEgg carton empty
>>287098398That you can continue to live despite tragedy befalling you I guess
>>287102902I'd called it more of a cliff personally.
>>287099429I wonder what a lunchtime hag date would look like between makio, frieren, and ruby (ruby is 30 years old btw)
>read the manga>some threads still open to interpretation >no one complaining about it in the usual sitesand to think that *other* manga is getting torn apart for doing the same thing, I think I will just read shoujo/josei to not deal with retards anymore baka
>>287102902Tbf that seems to be where the anime derailed a lot from the source material according to this thread, so I am hoping the manga is better really.
>>287099035This is how I feel. The anime ending as it stands feels 95% complete and the final final scene goes even further than the manga, but there are enough lingering questions (How did Emiri & Asa rekindle their friendship when it looked like they were drifting apart? How did Asa feel about her dad?) that an anime-only could have answered by reading the manga or waiting for a hypothetical S2. I’m just glad the adaptation didn’t rush to or skip over scenes/conversations in the back half just to do a complete adaptation, a S2 wouldn’t skip over these critical things and if you thought this ending was mid, a better one is out there waiting to be adapted (really glad the didn’t skip over Makio’s blog stuff at the very last minute, it would be really important to the true ending).
>>287098398Women have the hardest lives of all, and men are a nuisance and sooo like, totally icky. Yuck!
>>287102046He's gonna plap the fuck out of the girl who wanted to be a doctorette (female doctor (derogatory)) and prove why it was common practice to not let them into medical school (they end up quitting their "careers" when they have children)
I liked it. Sucks that we didn't get to see Makio's two best scenes though
>tfw no makio x minori make-up sister yuri 80 hour sex scene
>>>/wsg/6119107
>>287102625I like her loose strands.
>>287098398if your parents fucking die it's whatever(accurate btw)
>>287093717For me, this show proves that misery is a topic worth exploring. The genre isn't "bad", it's just that writing on this level is difficult to pull off, and most people aren't up to the task. Like Takopi, which was embarrassing, lowbrow, would-be-manipulative filth. This show will probably stick with me for a long time.
>>287103782People want grief to be theatrical, but it really ain't.
>>287094220Pay me.
>>287103982it sure isn'tBut it's not really the desert, it's more like the sea. That dark abyss at the edge of yout vision, dragging you down.
>>287095781Or a bunch of bananas, yes.
>>287094726>trying against all odds is where fulfillment comes from.No, it comes from understanding the odds correctly, planning and winning by your own standards. Not knowing but trying anyway is just desperation. Your Zizek is either a fool or misunderstood by his fans.
>>287094941Mastering a slightly larger vocabulary in your native language isn't pretentious in itself. Hoping to impress people with it is. Doing it because you read too much instead of living as a teenager is different.
Obviously they don't want uggos at their school. Can't blame them for that.She does have the JK batman card to play in pretty much ever conversation. Gross what is that thing?For once what the hag is saying is accurate. However I see nothing wrong with feeling little to nothing. You reach a zen state where no matter what happens, you don't really care and just keep trucking along. Better than being thrown a curve ball every other day by random shit.Why does that JK sound like she smokes a pack a day?I hate double dialog. WITNESSED! She witnessed her, she is awaited in Valhalla! Silly and cute.Anon is a lone wolf.Time skip to cakes because why not.That was an interesting show. Losing those you're close to never gets easier when it happens but life does eventually go on each day getting a bit easier than the last. Give your family a hug anon, you never know what your last words to them might be.
>>287102691Didn't you sign up to be emotionally manipulated? There's lots of branding and lead ins suggesting that's what you'll get from this show.
>>287093717>no gyaru AsaObjective 1/10, what a waste.
>>287104584Lol
This was my aots
>>287105389What is your aots now
>>287105416I mean it still is because there are no shows left this season I was watching.
>>287105436I see
>>287103179Should have jumped out the window to own those evil men.
>>287102902Nah it's pretty good till episode 12, last episode is underwhelming and drops in quality in the writing.
>>287096815I'll bet this is a mistranslation since the popular gutter speak definition of objectify wrongly shames ogling and perpetuates sexist bigotry both ways.
>>287098456If he had, she'd feel uncomfortable forgiving him even if she wanted to.
>>287101170Attraction is a real feeling, and she damn well knows what it feels like when the girl doesn't feel it back.
Why does adult Emiri look like Asa's mom?
>>287101569For a provisional physical relationship, absolutely. That's a small risk for a good time.
I really like this sequence.
>>287101569the reason you retarded zoomer can't get any ladies is due to you feeling uncomfortable doing this.
Our girl finally made it!
>>287099429Where's the best girl of the season?
>>287095488engrish kino
>>287099429>nobody likes AsaI'll take it.
>>287106714i just watched the first episode of this. it seems really cute but i don't like hayamin and really all of the voices are taking me out of it
>>287106559emiri has a deep crush/obsession with makio, since it was thanks to her that she accepted her homosexuality, that's why she tries to look like the one woman that can throw makio out of balance.
>>287101468>I was honestly disgusted that they had fantasized themselves being with meYou seem like a very snobby and contemptuous person
>>287106891does that mean in those 10 years emiri broke up with her gf and continuously whored herself out to women until she could work herself up to fucking the heterosexuality out of makio and claiming her as her wife?
>>287106714Idolshit makes me more uncomfortable than rape scenes.
>>287100449>I think this was more dream.But the manga ending was the same. Well, not completely but it still ended with Asa and Emiri as adults talking at a cafe.
>>287096279Emiri would need to be held accountable for all the masochistic boys she would create.
>>287106891>>287106945Sounds like the type of messy menhara yuri that /a/ always shills hard. I'd read it.
>>287097746>>287097813Why did they literally make their character designs younger Makio and younger Kasamachi?
>>287106945anon this is a realistic series
>>287098305He brings home money (and considering his profession, probably a lot of it) and doesn't abuse his wife or kid. That already puts him ahead of a lot of fathers.
>>287099429>MALFuck off
>>287107237What even is his job?
>>287107300programmer
>>287107300
>>287094808I really liked this part in the manga and was sad when they skipped it. Glad they managed to fit it in somewhere after all.
>>287100940how will he self-improve if no one tells him what's wrong with him
>>287102625Asa doggy
>>287095986>What is the ending in the manga?Last scene is about the same as the anime.>Do we actually get a resolution for makio's hatred of her sister?Ehh>Does she get together with her simp editor?They're already sex buddies. The manga doesn't show them moving to anything beyond that.>Does emiri gay marry her lesbian lover?Maybe>Did Asa's father hate her?No
>>287095324>The biggest thing to lose was Asa's struggle over understanding her fatherActually, I think the biggest thing to lose was Emiri coming out of the closet to Asa
>>287107570True, but that happened after the concert, where Asa's struggle with her father started before it. It was insane that they cut that, however. As-is, Emiri and Asa go from growing apart to being lifelong friends again without that meeting and closure to their distance happening.
>>287107631>where Asa's struggle with her father started before it.But most of it was after the concert
>>287107681Yes. But I was going by what was cut from what we already got and not just what did not happen yet. There's a good bit that otherwise we'd be missing just from the anime.
>the father>the father>the fatherAre you guys projecting because you had shitty relationships with your fathers or is just because you're daddy's boys?Sure, the guy was a void and a mystery, so what? I don't remember Asa being so obsessed to the point it stood out in the manga for more than a few chapters. Much less so to feel it should have been more present in the anime. Minori on the other hand...
>>287107841It was pretty much implied from the mother's memories that the father didn't love his family
>>287107841She had a whole arc about trying to find the truth about her father's feelings or personality. And this also brought in a bunch of other characters into the mix, like Kasamachi handling his trauma. It wasn't super long, but it lasted about 2 volumes or so to my memory, which is substantial for the length of the series. Of course the answer was just that he was a pretty empty fucking guy that no one knew anything about and she would have to live with that mystery.
>>287107841There aren't many male characters to relate to. A couple walking sex dolls, a jock and a nobody who died.
>>287107964Having a personality is a male-centric ritual
>>287096211>pic relatedThe manga has a way of drawing Asa walking that's very cute which isn't captured by the anime
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>>287108110Asa does not walk. She has Heelys built into her body that enables her to glide around when she maintains that stance.
>>287107923That's what I remember as well. Those chapters had a weird pacing with other characters jumping out of nowhere which dilluted any sort of impact. Asa's struggle with losing her dad and the disconnect she was always go feel didn't feel as heart wrenching as the mom stuff. I suppose it's because Minori was a whole lot more present and directly shaped Asa's personality. Plus, women seem to have some special relationship with their mothers on some womanly spiritual level or whatever.All in all, I think it's clear Asa would have a harder time moving on without coming to terms with her mom rather than not figuring out her father. I was pretty sure they'd cut that most of that out from the adaptation because there wasn't enough meat.
Would Kasamichi be fine with not having a heir to his bloodline if Makio doesn't want a child?
>>287108110Is the manga officially being published in English? I want to buy.
>>287108519buy it in japanese and pirate it in english
>>287108519mangaupdates is telling me no
>>287108498That's mainly just a way to hang on to assets. Kids don't really matter.
apparently there's an official korean and french localization for ikoku nikki. i keep forgetting about the weebs in france
>>287108650Asa's dad pls
Why didn't they adapt the whole manga? All it would take is 6-7 more episodes. I wanted a complete adaptation......
>>287108519The scanlation was made by a team that was very good at writing English prose and so-so in translating Japanese. No official TL, but maybe we can hope.
>>287108894we're lucky enough to get 13 episodes these days, just this season had several series with fucking 9-10 episodes and apparently we're supposed to be okay with it
Any recommendations for a manga similar to this one? With an adult cast and realistic depiction of life?
>>287109042Check out Jiro Taniguchi's manga.
>>287108110Ta ta ta
>>287107424What is he gonna do, grow a pair of tits?
>>287109042>Makio>ever having any man getting close to her>realistic
>>287096261Makio WILL sperg out and everyone WILL gaze at her in awe.
>>287107424If you're dedicated to pleasing others over yourself, then self improvement becomes impossible.
>>287108894>just do 50% more work its that easywe should be glad we got this much 2bh
Who did Asa get married to?
>>287109815chiyochichi
>>287100710I would agree with you but there are women who can meaningfully explore masculinity if they're not explicitly writing about masculinity. Like Hiromu Arakawa. I don't think Silver Spoon ever says the word masculinity but manhood is undoubtedly an important theme when most of the major characters are male and Hachiken's character arc is all about him finding his place in the world and growing from a boy to a man. Arakawa can write masculinity as well as any male writer. She also wrote Hachiken's conflict with his father as he carves out his own path and the two come to an understanding in a compelling and authentic way. I think female writers might have a penchant for writing that kind of father-son conflict even though they didn't experience it themselves. Two men with their own strong ideals and duties which lead them to clash, and you can see where both of them are coming from. Kaoru Mori did it too in Emma.
Adult Emiri sexo
>>287105983>女の子を物扱い>to treat females as objectsYou can complain about translations when you learn Japanese
>>287109815Lawyer bro, it would make much more sense that he was trying to nail Asa than he getting close to Makio.
>>287102902It may not have been as dramatic but it was still goodLife is not just a neat little package of conflict-climax-resolution and then eternal stasis, it continues on
>>287110198女の子 means girl, not female
>>287110352Okay Yamazaki
i can't believe asa married dr. makio
>>287110198I'm complaining about people not knowing English. They'll read objectify in the subs and not get the right meaning, which is that one.
>>287109815Man, you guys know fucking nothing about wedding rings.
>>287109815Leon S. Kennedy
nooooooooooooooooooooooI want a full adaptatioooooonI cant reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadseriously guys please give me a movie or OVAs
>>287109815Me
>>287110896my condolences
>>287109815Impossible. Asa can't get married to any single person. She's too popular. She'll get a massive harem that'll have to share her.
>>287111214Asa bukkake video, but everyone's dropping those little breakfast sausages on her face
Makio helped me realize I'm ADHD in addition to being autistic. Thanks Ikoku Nikki!
>>287101858>t. someone who has never had a job or is severely autistic
>>287111304Great, another pretend label you can slap on yourself.
>>287111396The purpose of labels is that they enable you to access medical care and proven coping strategies instead of figuring it all out by yourself.There is no greater virtue to either way.
>>287101577>>287101705No, that's such a female mentality. I got quite a bit of female attention through middle and high school which I certainly didn't mind even if it was a girl I wasn't into. I only regret the tactless ways I'd react because I was an awkward kid without the social acumen to know how to deal with these situations. I probably hurt a few girls. I once rode an intercity bus and talked with the guy sitting next to me. It turns out he's gay and for some reason was convinced that I was gay too and kept flirting and even trying to make physical contact. I kept dropping hints that I'm not gay and trying to shut him down but he didn't seem to get it. Maybe I could've been more direct. After a few hours, he finally outright asked me if I was gay or bi and I told him no. The rest of the trip was awkward. Anyway, I'd later talk about this incident with some of my friends and we agreed that he was overstepping boundaries. At no point was I ever disgusted by the thought that any of them were fantasizing about being with me, and I don't see why I should be disgusted. Only women think like that.
>>287098305>>287098208>>287097813>>287097746>>287107148No wonder this anime became so shit.
>>287093717Story's done for, at least for the most part
>>287110766Never ever.
This kinda became femoid anime. Instead of JK grief anime
>>287110766Asa deserves more and more. Lets get a manga sequel, too.
>>287112765She's done other manga about cute teens learning to live from weirdos.
>>287112657It was never a JK grief anime or a femoid anime, it was an anime about a human named Asa who happened to be a grieving femoid JK
>>287112940>humanShiba
I am going to miss these threads......
>>287112008>>287112023>>287113515I like how puffy her sleeves look rolled up like that
>>287097813The one very useless shit scene that turned this whole anime into utter dogshit
>>287113515She reminds me of Takako, from Linda Linda Linda
>>287113307Eh. Quality of the threads has gone massively down.
>>287115094it was only after kasamachi and the lawyer had the talk last episode that the threads became what they are now i felt. they were fun for the first 11 weeks
I liked this much better when Makio was more involved and working tough things herself. Asa is a boring character who got even more boring when she started to resolve her issues.
>>287115479You may not like her personality, but Asa is by far the best written character in this series, and the most complex one.
>>287115479Asa is by far the cutest character in this series
>>287115479Asa has by far the best expressions in this series.
>>287115632She also has the most brutal lines.
>>287115678;_;
>>287094797>>287094925I don't know what happened in the manga but OldMIRI give me the vibes "my lesbianism was just a phase"
>>287109815the lawyer>>287109830she's for big guy
>>287100710There is a lot of bullshit about muscalinity in media, but I don't think this manga is one that deserve to be attacked about that
>>287115678I love Asa, I laugh everytime she speak because it say her lines that I learned to expected and recognize, they are funny but probably the point wasn't this
>>287096592I love this dumb puppy.
>>287097469Eh, it pays the bills.
Did not expect this show to hit me in the last episode.
>>287117375It didn't hit you in the previous episodes?
>>287118134When she put it like that it got to me. I am retarded so I don't understand things unless they're spelled out like that.
>>287095488V8!
Is Asa now used good?
>>287119644She keeps going on dates with straight girls but they are consistently disappointed when it turns out she's doesn't have a cock in her pants. They tell her it's not fair of her to look like a boy buy not have boy parts. She then started going on dates with boys, but they, too, ended up dissapointed that she doesn't have a penis. thus, her girl parts have not yet been used...
>>287119772I am also disappointed that Asa doesn't have a penis.
>>287096279If Emiri kicked me in the balls as a high schooler, I would have jerked off to that memory at least once a week.
>>287120514Cumming blood and testicle fragments for Emiri!
>>287120576Urgh why did you put that image in my head. Now I'll live out the rest of my days wishing ballbusting Emiri was real.
>>287095488I think it was quite big in Japan.
>>287094726Never expect Zizek to be mentioned on /a/ but I makes sense of him to be mentioned on an Ikoku Nikki thread
>>287122218Why not? He's a retarded freak who is popular with internet weirdos, 4chan is exactly the kind of place where he'd be brought up.
>>287096331>They cut a little half-chapter of them talking after sex in bed.What chapter is that?
>>28712301730-ish?
>>287123329
>>287123373
>>287123398
>>287123427
Sawashiro-san did a great job voicing Makio. Significant part of my enjoyment of the series comes from her performance.
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>>287123851She really elevates any show she's inI really have to credit Asa's seiyuu though, she's totally new but she sounds like a natural and this would not have been an easy role
>>287123455>only people that've never known romantic love think of it as something purely sweetgosh love sounds scary and not worth it
>>287124089Being that emotionally tied to another human is not an easy thing.
>>287123455Thank you for posting it bro
on to the takako shimura series next season?
>>287125076>MAL is telling me it's web mangaso it's not josei... should I be worried?
>>287123851Yeah. I love it every time Makio speaks.
>>287109815>>287098817
>>287119644Who would ever be worth enough to touch her body?
>>287123373So does Asa hear them banging? I guess Makio just goes over to his place to get a nut and leaves Asa to her own devices I suppose.
The thread's basically been on life support with page 9 bumps all day, so for anyone that wants to transition over to the manga, I'll post the volume the last few episodes have covered as a way to move you along into reading it. Mainly because it introduces the plotline regarding Asa's father that you'd be kinda blindsided with if you just jumped straight to the next chapter after where the anime cut off (Chapter 36). There's some stuff earlier that was cut or changed, but people in the thread have largely already talked about that. No, I'm not the storytime OP.
If you ever wondered how these two ended up together.
>>287108498Asa will be the sole heir of his fortune, she will spned it all on a weird msuic project which will never be profitable but that will give her closure about the death of his cool not-father
THIS chapter
>>287129955I will be like that when I get married won't I...
>>287130066Hey, you can be memorable for being unmemorable, right? Like Avatar.
>>287108666France's manga industry is probably the biggest manga market outiside Japan, they translated YKK and Dowman Sayman's works before anyone else. There's also a reason why WSJ makes special events on France like that Rakugo presentation for the release of Akane Banashi or that big ass Ichi the Witch tome in the middle of Paris.
>>287114463I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets some Linds Linda Linda vibes from some moments on this series.I think the movie was popular in Japan so it makes sense it has some influence here and there
Fascinating creature.
Minori's sweater here is just psychotic.
>>287130156How is watching porn with bros sexual harassment again?
The set up for Asa's singing was more natural here.
The anime made Asa's fear of singing and standing out to be a longer and emotionally deeper conflict. Good change, imo.
>>287097813Makio belongs to Ojisan though
Never give up, /a/.
Emily!
Hope the manga's style lived up to expectations.Now you're all cocked, locked, and ready to rock and start volume 8 (chapter 36 on aggregators) with all the build up necessary. Have fun. I think the storytime on /a/ is at like chapter ~40, so you can catch up to it quickly enough if that's something you're interested in joining.
Dude, why would you dump 50 pages in the last weekly thread this show will ever have?
>>287129622>you'd be kinda blindsided with if you just jumped straight to the next chapter after where the anime cut offNah don't do that (or that's what I would say if you hadn't already dumped it). Anyone who wants to read the manga should start from the beginning.
>>287131017How come everything else from this mangaka is yuri or yaoi faggotry?
>>287131428Not all of it. But she did write primarily in the Yaoi category without putting much thought into it until she discovered liberal politics and decided to write series with socio-political messages instead of just genre typical gay stuff. >https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/6481
Why couldn't they adapt the whole manga 1:1 without skipping anything? T_T It's not like this would need a lot of budget? It's not a battle shounen.......
A scene from the later part of the manga that I would've liked to see adapted is when fatty makes Asa cry because what she said was too hurtful (ironically while trying to encourage and comfort her no less). It was funny.
>>287131510>liberal politicsI won't call Ikkoku Nikki politically left despite the obvious Yuri subplot. It talks about family, relations, grief, accepting others, raising a child etc. All these themes are conservative compared to the woke/gender fluid bullshit that's popular within the gender fluid retards. Even the basic liberal mindset is too individualistic. Lol the whole arc of Makio is about looking at the word beyond her fantasies, that's what raising a child is all about.
>>287131598Liberal politics can be pro-family, the thing here it that they mostly focus on non-traditional family structures. Makio, Kasamachi and Asa are a good example of that.It's the found family trope but with actual family dynamics.
>>287131598Bringing up the medical school admissions scandal, including Juno as an androgynous character, having Kasamachi and the Lawyer talk about how male oneupsmanship is toxic, including Emiri as a grounded depiction of a young lesbian, having Minori deal with traditional womanhood in emotionally complicated ways, etc., is all pretty liberal.No, it isn't talking about how you should be acegender transbinary hemiromantic or whatever, but you're working within the framework of the society and the writer being herself, a woman in her 40s. The story isn't totally about individualism, for sure. If anything it is clear that individualism is not a solution given that everyone relies on friends to support them in this series. So it does differ from modern progressivism that seems to resent any type of strong social bond that isn't centered around politics. Yamashita is too intelligent to fall for that.
>>287130066You're not getting married.
>>287130961Chiyo really looks like Makio in the manga.
>>287130340Doggy
>>287131663>The story isn't totally about individualism, for sure.It's Japanese, man. Individualism is a flaw in Japan. If that's your standard everything fails.
>>287131977I wouldn't say that, the standard shonen manga is built around individualistic protagonists and those are read by every child in the country at this point. And magazines like WSJ make sure not to rock the moral boat too hard. It isn't that individualism is a flaw, it is that clannish beliefs are still accepted alongside it, and there's a higher expectation for you to respect them as valid. The West mainly lacks the latter at this point, so the balance looks different.
>>287131977This is westoid non sense. Japs like individualism, but a "noble" individualism, like shounen protagonists, samurai, music stars... People who go for what is right or go against what is wrong in society. What they don't like is self entitled individualism or people being retarded. While someone like Makio would be viewed unfavorably IRL, the average Japanese viewer comes to respect what she believes in since we have a full picture of what she stands for, the reliance on others thus becomes a counter to that, and is ultimately the message it ends on. Otherwise, it really would be self indulgent.>>287131510>discovers liberal politics>starts writing better shit than 90% of mangaWhat did she discover westoids didn't...
kinda funny how in the end, unspoiled anime-onlies never learned that Makio plays Minecraft
>>287132140I really want to see her world.
>>287131510I have come to notice she consooms a lot of western slop. Justin Bieber, Coldplay and Fried Green Tomatoes aside, I heard in a interview she got inspired by Ghostbusters 2016 and Agents of Shield for certain elements of the work.She really is a genius to be able to endure all this crap and end up making such a refined work, let alone take some good out of it. Really impressive.
>>287132202It is impressive for someone to have the worst influences in the world and conjure gold out of thin air from them.
>>287132202>>287132220>gets influenced by western feminism>it improves her workThis really needs to be studied because this is like a once in a lifetime anomaly
>>287132231She was probably always a smart writer that just never expanded her boundaries (basically just writing what she already liked as a reader) and running into anything new, whatever it would be, unlocked her sense of perspective.Just a great example of why engaging with any media outside of your comfort zone is good, even if that media actually sucks. Because you never know what synapses it will tie together for you.
>>287094039Well, it's in comparison to both your parents dying. It's not like she's prohibited from becoming a doctor. She just needs to meet a higher standard. Her concern is on the same level of what Asian Americans had to deal with. I guess the difference is she didn't know about it before but once the secret came to light, these Japanese universities had to change their policies. US universities were openly doing it.
I'm not prepared to say goodbye, brothers..Please stay with me a little longer.
>>287130101France still resists cultural reformatting. They actually had a culture in the before times.
>>287132576>before timesBefore 1789?
>>287130424>>287130483The anime really did cut out a lot of details.
>>287131912Makio is the perfect woman, so naturally all pretty women converge on her appearance. Like a crab.
Be sure to check out Yamashita's other series like Hibari no Asa. Basically as different from Ikoku Nikki as it gets, but very well written in terms of capturing humans in a very lifelike way.
>>287130664It just doesn't fit. She would publicize any blackmail material. If he drugged her then that's not her. And her type is very different. If she couldn't rescue Asa from similar tactics, she would just give up on her the way she did her other family. There's no control vector.
>>287131510>>287131428Stop wiping your ass on the walls. Do in the bathroom with paper.
>>287132220You're one to talk. But it's called parallax.
>>287132140Minecraft was very different 13 years ago.
>>287133622I know I've had some terrible influences to be where I am, but also I know I couldn't spin a golden fleece, either.
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