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Who do you think is going to win the grail war?
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Saber always wins. Strongest class.
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No one. The time limit will run out and all of the servants will disappear except for Richard who impregnates Ayaka.
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>>287098788
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I just did
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>>287098788
Flat can still win this, trust the plan
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So Sigma is Kerry's kid? I can't believe he failed to raise both of his biological children
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>>287098788
God I want to cum inside her belly and stain her snacks with splooge so she can only taste me next time she takes a bit.
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>>287099084
François...
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>>287098788
EZ Prelati sweep
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>>287098788
Sigma for sure. Grail wars need to be stopped.
>>287099023
No, he's Maiya's child from before she met Kiritsugu.
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>>287098788
https://x.com/6YllJeCgbAJyHIE/status/2038118873166430536
>人の命を大事にしねえやつは最初におおかたタヒんだからな...それはそれとしてこんなに民度の高い(?)聖杯戦争見たことないよ。聖杯「戦争」なのに同盟停戦協力ありまくり子ども助けたい奴いまくりで頭おかしい。Zeroさんを見習いなFakeくん
>Most of the people who don't value human life died off early on... but setting that aside, I’ve never seen a Holy Grail War with such high 'civility' (?). Even though it’s a Holy Grail War, there are alliances, ceasefires, and cooperation happening everywhere, not to mention a ton of people who just want to save kids. It’s insane. Take a page out of Zero’s book, Fake-kun.

I'm starting to get why Nips love to talk on twitter. Where is the toxicity? The hate? They actually bring their politeness here.
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>>287098788
I want to fuck her
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>>287098918
Turned out pretty good, anon.
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Is faldeus a bad guy?
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>>287099692
Probably the worst guy in the story, yeah. Even Bazdilot has a sense of filial love to him, even if he lacks for honor. Faldeus has nothing, he is as heartless as any magus.
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>>287099343
Sounds fucking gay.
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>>287098788
No one wins a grail war. By nature it's low hanging fruit to bait retards.
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>>287099692
>>287099786
Faldeus cares most about the prosperity of america.
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>>287098918
bigger
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What is the state of thing as of the last LN out, who dead, who alive and who is closest to winning
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>>287099786
Faldeus has patriotism, the strongest love of all.
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>>287098788
Oh right, there's a grail war to win. I almost forgot.
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>>287099901
GILGOD is about to win
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>>287099901
Sigma
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>>287099901
Almost nobody is dead, almost nobody will die. That's how Narita do.
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>>287099901
Other than Flat the only deaths are Ishtar and Spooky Hassan.
The state the last VN left on is the entire city has completely disappeared into a blank plain with a giant enigmatic sphere floating over it and nobody knows what it means
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>>287099978
>Spooky Hassan.
That's the skull mask one/spoiler]
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>>287100003
Yeah.
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>>287099692
He killed Flat for ZOG
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>>287099978
How the fuck did Hassan die?
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>>287100019
>>287100003
>>287099978
>>287099974
>>287099942
>>287099938
I thought there would've been more by now and i don't think the number would be higher when the last LN come out
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>>287100077
For a guaranteed kill.
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>>287100077
Took Ishtar to hell with him
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>>287100077
His Zabaniya is a mutual kill maneuver that lets him violently drag someone into death with him when he dies, so he allowed Ishtar to kill him ensuring Ishtar died in return.
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>>287098788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRXsQUDOvs8
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>>287099978
I thought the one Sigma want to fuck also died?
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>>287098788
Nobody ever wins a grail war, everybody loses
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>>287100168
Zealot's fine. Well, not fine, when last we saw her Jester used a command spell to order her to kill Tsubaki, so she's kind of freaking out, but she's alive.
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>>287098918
30 hours in paint, probably.
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>>287098918
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>>287099692
In Narita stories there are no good or bad guys, there's just retards "doing things" which often conflict with other people who are doing things. Faldeus is doing what he believes is "good", protecting America, winning the grail war. Does any of it work out? No basically everything he does is a monkey's paw which turns out terribly. He seems to have some curse where he can't stop fucking up.
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>>287098788
It's pretty obvious
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>>287100646
I can't believe people actually told me this guy would be as bad as Sieg.
He's great
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>>287099786
Yukaku and Renri exist
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>>287100655
The role of Sieg was split into him and Ayaka
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>>287100696
Ayaka is good too.
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>>287100655
If the whole story centered around him like Sieg he would be pretty bad
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>>287100646
I understand why people were saying he's the protagonist now, he feels like the closest character to being one
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Sieg would probably be tolerated a lot more if Higashide hadn't killed the Teams HGW premise before it even started
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>>287100718
But it doesn't, he's just a guy, finding something worth fighting for and he doesn't steal other people's shit while doing that
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I hope they flashback to Sigma's fight. We need to see him actually using Watcher.
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>>287100785
That one was skipped even in the LN. It was just given a paragraph of "damn I barely scraped by" and thanking the shadows for warning him about incoming spells.
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>>287100759
Sieg would be tolerated more if he wasn't pushed so hard to be Jeanne's love interest despite the fact that those two have no chemistry and are bland as it gets together.
That and if the more likable characters (like Mordred) had more screentime so people wouldn't feel robbed.
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>>287100655
Yeah he's surprisingly fun to read about dispite having all the "ingredients" to make one of those bland shitty MCs
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>>287100883
All of Apocrypha's characters felt incredibly underbaked in retrospect
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>>287098918
Beautiful Ayaka
I will make an attempt in a couple hours
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>>287100655
He's boring and the furthest thing from "great", but he's a lot more tolerable than Sieg because he isnt the sole/main focus of the entire show.
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The only protagonist with less substance than Sigma is Ritsuka.
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>>287100966
>>287101040
Delicious seething.
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>>287098918
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>>287101040
Kiritsugu is a thing
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>>287101160
It's a really fucking good shot. Erotic, dynamic, visually exciting.
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>>287101236
>>287101160
wish they got more fanart
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Why do Ishtar and Gilgamesh fight so much? Do they not realize how similar they are?
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>>287098788
Faldeus
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>I don’t associate with yurishitters Jester
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>>287101340
Ishtar is a petty bitch
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>>287101388
So is Gil
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>>287101367
Based
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>>287099023
He failed everything else he did in his life that wasnt killing. Why would this be different?
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It's hilarious. People are actually seething over Faldeus and calling him and True Assassin camping frauds. Like how are you getting mad at an assassin team playing like they're supposed to? Should they send masters a warning?
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>>287101470
>He failed everything else he did in his life that wasnt killing
He also failed plenty at that
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>>287101477
It sure is a good thing no one in this Holy Grail War has Instinct or whatever. Usually that or bounded fields tend to fuck Assassins up.
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>>287101160
Church girls good
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>>287101340
Gil's didnt want the stds that would come with taking a ride on all of Uruk and its surroundings' (including the animals)'s bicycle
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>>287101367
Why was he happy that Flat died? Nigga started fucking fireworks or something
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>>287101477
Faldeus is a clown but going after Flat first was the correct move based on the information he had. Flat is a completely unpredictable magic savant and could've ended up being the one of the most dangerous opponents in the war.
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>>287101477
What I like is that his servant barely did anything so far.all of the kills and shenanigans he's responsible for was done via 100% human glowniggery. Who needs an assassin for assassinations anyway?
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The anime would have been improved if it was 15 episodes. They wouldn't have had to truncate volume 5 so much. They could solve some of it by having episode 14 go through some of the missed stuff from alternative perspectives, like Faldeus and his bitch reviewing footage of stuff like Richard vs Gil, Dumas, and Hippo Alcides. Kind of like a clip episode but all new content.
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>>287101388
So is Gil lmao.
>>287101546
I didn't ask why they didn't fuck though. I'm asking why they are so ignorant of how alike they are.
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>>287100966
More importantly people don't just randomly like him for no reason to the point of comitting suicide like Siegfried.
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>>287101693
Ishtar despises him because he wouldn't fuck her and because he was himself when he rejected her with a long rant about what a whore she is and how she ruins the lives of everyone she fucks.
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>>287101580
He wasn't happen about hisdeath per se, but he celebrated that his old friend, the Escardos family founder, finally completed his 2000 year ritual wiht Flat's death. I think Zelretch had a similar response.
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>>287101683
You can't kill a god with glowniggery though or can you?
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>>287101725
>but he celebrated that his old friend, the Escardos family founder
who
>finally completed his 2000 year ritual
a what
am i supposed to know what any of that means in the anime
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>>287101685
Everyone being trapped in the reality marble should've been episode 0 of Season 2 with this season ending with everyone getting eaten by Rider.
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>>287101750
Nah, I think what the way they ended this seasong was perfect.
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>>287101657
It was cut in the anime but back when Flat styled over Orlando he casually mentioned that he already tracked the origin of magic surveillance to the police station and to the underground of Snowfield's prison complex, which is Faldeus' hiding spot and workshop. Meaning he had the glowie completely figured out and knew exactly where to go to get him.

Flat simply had to go.
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Yeah I’m thinking kino.
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>>287101749
Naturally, al the background was cut, so I don't blame you for missing out, It's be biggest issue with this adaptation.
Cuts are understandable, but if they remove clarity then they degrade the story.
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>>287101785
the season was a good stopping point but they cut too much to make it as impactful as it could have been. more exploration of the reality marble and such
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>>287101832
This wasn't cut though. This is volume 7 content.
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>>287101879
>>287101832
I think they do the setup in volume 5 or 6, but they also repeat it in volume 7. It should be one of the first things in episode 14.
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>>287101838
I'm mostly fine with them trimming some fight scenes, that ultimately don't matter, considering how well they handled the past 3 episodes.
I do want them to animate the shit they skipped, regarding event happenings and character backstories though.
I do think they'll do it, too, considering how much they schuffle content around
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>>287101829
Richard's whole scene was perfect
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What's Emiya doing as this goes down?
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>>287101924
Frustrating as it was, I perfectly understand moving Zealot's backstory. This way it will feel more fresh when it gets resolved with the True Assassin meeting.
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Why is this grail so powerful anyway? Most Holy Grails don't really have the juice to summon so many outliers. Under normal circumstances, they flat out can't summon gods unless they're weak or limited enough to fit.
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>>287101958
Either wanting around in the middle east or balls deep in Sakura.
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>>287101997
The grail hasn't summoned any gods.
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Oh no no no
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My love
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>>287102080
I'd argue that Pale Rider should be unsummonable.
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>>287102283
It's not a god, and while it appears to be on the higher tier of servants, it's not some mega broken thing that'd beat everything.
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>>287101367
my HERO
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>>287101958
Plapping Sakura into a goddamn puddle and spending awkward afternoons with Shinji.
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>>287102314
It can mimic divine authorities. That seems like it should completely shatter that Rider class container.
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>>287101685
it was 15 episodes, episode 0 had two episode of content
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>>287101685
well it is actually 15 episodes since whispers of dawn is two episodes
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>>287101997
Because AMERICA
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>>287102283
You could also argue that Pale Rider gets to be an exception because he is by every technicality summoned BY a goddess, albeit a newborn goddess whose power is too much for her body.
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franSEXca
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>>287101997
Grails are usually powered by blood, but this one is powered by fresh liberating crude oil
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I can't believe they just Flat out killed him like that
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>>287101367
>Catholic priest triggers tranny by using their deadname and then calls her parent to disown her for falling in love with a muslim woman.
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>>287101236
What do nun crotches smell like?
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>Illegal immigrant shoots couple and leaves their daughter orphaned
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>>287102808
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>>287102801
Ayaka's raction really sells it
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Is Francesca a loli, or just petite?
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>>287102818
like the garden of paradise
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>>287102843
Petite but clearly not a loli. This is a loli.
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>>287102843
Definitely just petite, proportions are not loli-like at all. She looks like an adult woman pretending to be a child.
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>>287102843
trans womanlet
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>>287099023
No, he's a rape baby from before Kerry rescued Maiya. He was taken from her after he was born.
Sigma is even older than Ilya despite how he looks.
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>>287102283
>>287102314
Pale Rider is not summonable. Pay attention. The grail is broken so the rules were defunct. The more outliers came in, the easier it became to summon more outliers because summonings in the fate universe operate on a chain. When one thing is summoned, a related summon is easier.
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>>287101367
BASADO
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What's the secret to ayaka's body? Pornographic answers only, please.
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wow foreshadowing
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>>287102976
She has neet fat.
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>>287098788
Richard is going to blow up the grail just to complete his King Arthur LARP
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>>287102931
Yeah but there should be a power limit. Again, Servants usually can't use Authorities because their containers can't handle it. It's like trying to shove twenty gallons of water into a normal 16 oz bottle.
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>>287102976
She is hiding big mana tanks.
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>>287103050
The power limit doesn’t matter because it’s summoning an actual god. It’s summoning a servant. Gods will conform to servant vessels. A holy grail has summoned servant gods or gods in human vessels like Quetzalcoatl
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>>287098788
Sigma
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>>287103127
None of the gods in Chaldea can exercise their authorities. They don't have the power to do so, and attempting it stretches the limits of their Saint Graphs.
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Why didn't she save Flat?
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>>287103127
Only in the fgo world because things are fucky. That's still a hard limit elsewhere. Even the extraverse required hacking into data for BB to get her alter egos.
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>>287103007
>Tine imagining herself as a maid
She brings shame upon her tribe
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>>287103173
No that’s not the grail. That’s chaldea summoning (originally because this is retconned later). The grail can summon gods with authority and commonly does in FGO
>>287103192
Sure but FSF is literally the all canon world where whatever goes, and Narita has tried hard (to the detriment of the story) to align it with FGO. Especially the powerlevelZ
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>>287103177
Gray would have deflected those bullets. Even Svin would.
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>>287103258
Only if the gods are directly linked to the Holy Grail, which reinforces their Saint Graphs and allows them to exercise more of their original power. Alternatively, being summoned in the Age of Gods can also raise the limits.

But in general, Servant Containers have limits as to how much power can be expressed. This is why higher-tier Servants, even with a superior Master and a near-limitless source of energy, can still never truly reach the heights of power they possessed in life. It doesn't matter how much energy you feed them, the Servant container itself isn't powerful enough to let them work at their original capacity.

This is the principle difference between normal Saint Graphs and Grand Graphs. A Grand Graph can let a Heroic Servant use everything they had in life and possibly more. If normal Saint Graphs could easily let you utilize your original authority, then there would be no point to Grand Graphs. Saint Graphs have hard stat caps that can never be overcome.
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>>287102030
>experienced events similar to Heaven’s Feel
>Went off to became a hero of justice anyway
So will the Shirou of Strange Fake become Archer?
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>>287103007
I'll catch Tine!
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>>287102801
>Magic machine guns
Based
The Grail War is just an FPS deathmatch.
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>>287103810
wait till you see what's cooked up in the next big fight
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>>287103822
Doe people get 360 no-scoped?
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>>287099786
From a purely moralistic standpoint, Tsubaki's parents are the absolute worst sense not only did they use their own daughter as a lab rat but the fucked up shit they did to her very nearly led to the apocalypse
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>>287103810
uh, the grail war is actually fortnite. There's a huge amount of base building and aura farming and it even has the shrinking reality marble.
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>>287102801
fatty
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Patriotism is not love
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>>287103177
Shouldn't more of her hair be blonde at this point?
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>>287102976
Lots and lots of british flavored cum
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so did they finish volume 6?
what are some of the biggest skipped contents? I see people bringing up zealot backstory, flat backstory, hippo vs alcides, sigma vs jester, etc. which cut content can still be worked back in next season?
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>>287100883
Sieg would be tolerated more if everything didn't line up for him
>Frankenstein died literally because she has a second NP that allowed Sieg to absorb her powers
>Siegfried died just so Sieg could absorb his powers
>Like four other servants end up existing just to power up Sieg
Not hard to see why people were afraid of Sigma turning out the same
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>>287105288
>>Like four other servants end up existing just to power up Sieg
Anon wasn't joking
>Chiron trains him
>Astolfo gives him a sword
>Jeanne gives him more CS
>Achilles gives his shield to Astolfo so Astolfo can save Sieg from Karna
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>>287105288
The worst part is that in a vacuum Sieg is fine as a character, it's just the Apoc story just hurting his image.
As a standalone in a different story, Schmidt can work very well.
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>>287103756
>Anon asks some balls boring ass question asked twenty billion times no matter what route it is
Nasu answered it like five years ago, Archer comes from Fate route, but a version of Fate route where he couldn't "save" saber in the end, he couldn't change her mind about her path. Which is why Archer was still obsessed with Saber.
No matter what happens to shirou he won't become archer
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>>287105452
Sigma is Sieg without every character existing to jack him off, or every character existing to die to power him up
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>>287105187
>sigma vs jester
>>287100844
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>>287105601
You mean...DOROTHEA!
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>>287098788
Haruri!
Total mage death!
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will we ever see Jester's main body?
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>>287105916
Unquestionably, but not till summer with the last volume.
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>>287101367
It's not even that she's a yurinigger, it's that she won't commit to being one
>Um actually, I'm genderbent so it's not gay :3
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All kiddong aside
Van-Fem's problem is that Jester brags about rejecting human history while proclaiming his love for an embidoment of it
If he did one or the other but not both Van-Fem wouldn't care
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>>287106158
Yeah, she's like one of those hypocrites who sprout bullshit like "I have Vtubers but [...] is alright"
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>>287106158
And all the more dangerously, Van-Fem might've shown up to help out his wayward spawn if her head was on straight.
Calling a dead apostle ancestor to tell him about the situation was a genuinely insane gamble, but that's just how Flat lives his life.
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>>287104644
no, they're gray
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>>287098788
Jerked off to her
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>>287106342
More of her hair was turning blonde in Adventures.
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>>287106360
They're Gray. Get it? lel
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>>287106368
Yes, she is Gray. But her hair is turning blonde.
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>>287106382
Yeah but .. why btw?
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>>287106396
Because Artoria.
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>>287106337
Nah, Van Fem is pretty much a NEET.
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another victory victory for bulletchads?
when will magechuds ever learn?
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>>287106416
you mean, Gray's hair turn blonde in something called "adventures"? Is this El Melloi case files we're talking about?
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>>287106435
I desperately need not the chest shot, not the head shot, but the scope view full on barrage while 'AMERICA, FUCK YEAH' plays in the background
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>>287106479
I will make you bald, and massage the eggs in.
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>>287106435
What if instead of passing on his retarded ideals, Kiri just gave Shirou a gun?
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>>287106435
fat bitch farts
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>>287099692
For you
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>>287106498
you don't make any sense, I'll make you hairy and crack your bones out
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I will miss this kino so much...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffE1-RTTpTE
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>>287106281
Based narita. He wouldn't bend the rules for his characters unlike N*su
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>Ryonosuke
>Kenneth and his wife
>Flat
4-0 magechuds
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>>287106434
Prior to Strange Fake, Jester was in the "favored vampire children" folder for Van-Fem. He wouldn't have to go out himself, even sending one of his demonic castles to assist would put the scales so heavily in Jester's favor that that could be why ORT wakes up in one of the timelines Zelretch looks at.
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>>287106561
you just can't beat (bite) the bullet hehe
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>introducing Glorp Shitto from Nasu's Fate spin off #2478
...the anime. Crazy how one can play the entirety of FGO which has like 300 servants and 10 billion different stories and then Nasu still manages to pull some random vampire character from his ass to save the day and leave anime watchers completely confused.
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Can LNfags confirm if anyone else acknowledges the tiny clone of Alcides that shows up in the background sometimes? I thought it was weird that Bazdilot didn't mention it during their conversation in episode 7
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>>287106637
Are you high anon?
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>>287106561
You can add the 47 or whatever masters Lev unironically exploded with bombs (despite a mage and a demon pillar he used bombs) to the count
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>>287106523
Very goopy.
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>>287106637
What the hell are you talking about
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>>287106637
Tiny clone??????
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>>287106637
It's not a clone retard, it's his biggest fan.
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>>287106637
Yes but they don't appear in the anime
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>>287098845
>Saber always wins
Because of plot armour. Gilgamesh would've won every grail war in reality
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>>287106561
Kirschtaria, although he survived ultimately
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>>287106637
Oh you mean Alcidelad?
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Imagine if tsubaki just didn't like muslims
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>>287106649
>>287106661
>>287106673
You didn't see it? It was doing this weirdly looped flexing animation
>>287106679
>>287106730
Was it summoned as part of his saint graph or something?
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>>287101160
Hansa is so fucking lucky
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>>287098845
This is a slight misnomer, saber gets the farthest but never wins.
Rin checked the previous grail war records and saber typically made it to the semi finals, but there's no record of saber ever winning. Therefore Rin saw it as the safest choice
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Where would you place Fate/Strange Fake season 1?
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>In this garden of disgrace
>I can still remember the taste
>They call me the lion and now I’m roaring
>So many have died by this sword
>Couldn't betray you if I tried
>Dreamt that I’ve stayed thеre by your side
>Now when I see thе setting sun
>I picture you there in Avalon
>I’ll die defending your glory
>Your chivalry’s not a story
>I’ll die defending your glory
>Your chivalry’s not a story
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>Tsubaki wishes to put everything how it was, and make her all alone again
>Neither of those wishes kill off Rider at all, he should be in perfect health
>He's just not allowed to see Tsubaki, otherwise she wouldn't be alone, like she asked
He really should be entirely fine honestly
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>>287101543
So many views and likes in less than 24 hours. People really love them
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>>287106909
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>>287106158
Man, I really gotta start proofreading before posting
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>>287106621
Shut up, or I'll set Ushi free on your crops
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Why doesn't Hansa dress like a slut too?
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>>287106909
People like them showing off their crotches.
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Does Rin tell Hippolyta about Berserker?
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>>287107036
He wears a garter under the vestments.
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animated Manaka story soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GuKzqSyN4
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>Richard and Ayaka
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>>287107043
I don't get it.
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If I wanted to watch more fate stuff, not play the VN because I watched this with a friend, where should we start?
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Gilgamesh/Tine fan art is too rare
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Would Richard still respect her if Francesca showed him this?
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>>287107155
Yeah, and probably compare Kuzuki to the Picts.
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>>287107129
UBW or Zero from Ufotable.
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>>287107104
>B rank speed
Richard victim
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>>287107129
UBW anime
HF movies
DEEN fate route anime kinda spoils a bunch of shit from various routes, and tried combining routes in a bad way, also the animation was kinda shit. However it was where a lot of people started with the series. Its just that recommending it feels like telling people to watch the Tsukihime anime.
Apocrypha anime
Fate Zero anime

All the three dozen manga
Tsukihime manga
FGO manga
Redline manga

Light novels
Light novels

Don't be such a bitch about reading a VN that's now easily available anywhere, including Steam. Its not hard to get into it, its basically the same as reading a book, except with moving pictures.
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>Francois makes you watch fate zero mid war
Wtf do you do?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rKyk__iRqg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7pKVxwqV4Y
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ-vu1bEXMc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX9_MoRxsjk
I didn't know prototype also has drama cd like Fragments
anime when?
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>>287107203
>>287107182
ty, the only reason I don't want the manga/ln/vn is because my friend likes watching the stuff with me.
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>>287107129
Fate ubw and heavens feels movies and then Fate zero, in that order. Everything else is optional
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I'd pay to be the one sponge bathe Tsubaki.
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>>287107155
Richard is a true fan, he loves the rise and the fall of Artoria not just coping like Jetfags.
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>>287107129
Personally I recommend
2006 Deen FSN -> Zero -> UBW -> HF
But if you do this understand going in that Deen FSN is kind of bad. But it gives a good foundation to understand the whole series.
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Enkidu should win because she's just as strong as Gilgamesh but without his flaws (holding back powers due to pride)
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>>287106695
Gilgamesh loses to a Japanese high schooler, the female version would too but in bed
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>>287107310
Enkidu became unable to win the war once Berserker was summoned since he has a conceptual weakness that occurs after it's death. Gil at least doesn't have the same because he died of old age.
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I have the VN with Realta Nua patch and Hollow Ataraxia pirated from over half a decade ago, how do those compare to the actual Steam releases? Might give them a read since I've been reading fantasy novels recently.
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>>287107350
What are you talking about?
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>>287106593
What would happen to poor Assassin then? Would Jester rape her?
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>>287107414
True Berserker is another Babylonian character and one it dies the events that led to Enkidu's historical death occur so at best they mutual destroy and end the war with no winner.
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In regards to the banquet, most of the issues there stem from the anime cutting out scenes n' dialogue. In the LN, Artoria recomposed herself n' reaffirmed her ideals. The banquet ended a lot stronger for her. Iskandar also realising he was wrong about Artoria as a king, was also skipped dialogue in the anime. Nasu even admitted she was the best king of the three
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>>287107071
Manaka's cute bare feet animated soon.
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>>287107379
Just play it faggot, yes, PLAY, because there are multiple minigame segments that are a part of the story and alternate episodes to be unlocked
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>>287107379
Actually curious about this too. I know people have said the fan translation was bad, but I wonder how much better the remaster TL's could be and if it's worth having content cut.
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>>287106561
Malicebury
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>>287107441
True Berserker isn't the bull of heaven
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>>287107618
No it's ]Humbaba and Ishtar summons the bull via hurricane. Both deaths combined trigger Enkidu's eventual death.
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>>287107587
Didn't this guy actually win the grail war

With a caster no less?
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>>287107483
Well yeah. Originally, people primarily sided with Rider due to vibes. He was big, boisterous, charismatic. He's more "human" than Saber, and it was highly popular at the time to criticise Saber's approach to kingship (Tristan's "The King doesn't understand human hearts" resonated with people).

But if you think about it from the perspective of a common citizen and what would be more beneficial from a general societal standpoint, Saber's approach to leadership is far, far more desirable. A national leader who is completely selfless, devoid of corruption, and genuinely, fundamentally only cares about the needs of the people is just far more desirable. Saber wouldn't waste taxpayer money on frivolous nonsense.
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>>287107720
And still met his end in the barrel of a gun.
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>>287107720
>with a caster
with THE caster
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>>287107129
Cooking with Emiya Family
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>>287102801
>Literal recoiless magic machine gun
>75% of shots fired don't hit target
>Unsteady aim the entire time
If this is the best they got, no wonder they couldn't touch Kiritsugu.
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>>287107861
All the actually good killers are freelancers.
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>>287107861
What are you on about? Faldeus doesn't have magic bullets he just parked a bunch of snipers in/around the hospital to unload on people if they reappeared and went for Flat first because he was a massive wildcard, then shit went wrong and something happened to all the snipers before they could change targets to Ayaka (which wouldn't have worked anyways because Richard would've protected her he just didn't care to protect Flat).
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>sigma made tsubaki an orphan
what a piece of shit
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>>287107972
Better than having those "parents".
She might have some distant relative or a chance to be adopted by a real family.
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We're not genuinely pretending that killing Tsubaki and her parents aren't objectively the right decisions to make, are we?
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>>287107739
>If you think about the perspective of the common man
There was constant famine and droughts, your king was never at home because she was at constant war, you are living in a mud hut while your king is living in a pure gold castle made from the finest materials while you're dying in the streets of dysentery, the king collects all your money in taxes while knights come by each night to burn down your home so "the people we're at war with can't use it for supplies", you complaint that the king is inhuman and has no feelings for the common man, and a knight comes by and stabs you in the heart "SILENCE KNAVE, the king is perfect and almighty in all ways, if you're dying in the street then its YOUR FAULT, the KING is PERFECT. EVERY DECISION SHE MAKES IS CORRECT AND PERFECT"
Camelot was kind of a shithole; ideals don't' change outcome. People ignore the reality of Camelot and say "The only thing that matters is intentions, she was just too good of a person for the kingdom to be good.

Meanwhile Saber is sitting in her throne of pure gold in her palace of pure gold "Y'know lancelot was really correct and perfect for killing all the other KotR, lets send him a letter saying how cool I think he was for smashing Gareth's head"
Lancelot gets the letter and even he's fucking disgusted by how inhuman Saber was that she not only forgave him but said he was correct and good for killing everyone like that
Even Galahad said that Saber was a retard because Agravain dying was the single point that the country could no longer be saved, and lancelot killed him on a whim. Agravain was the one actually running the shithole kingdom because saber didn't actually know politics that much, Bedivere and Galahad said as long as he was there she could handle it.

If you were there for the later years of Gilgamesh kingdom, it was perfect. Lotta people forget that fact even though Babylonia reinforces he eventually became the perfect king.
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>>287107972
He cut all their circuits out but he left them alive so Tsubaki wouldn't be sad
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>>287108057
Killing Tsubaki is objectively wrong
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>>287108114
It's not like the situation is her fault but she was 100% way too fucking dangerous to keep around at that point.
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Fate zero is clearly better written but i still enjoyed watching this
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>>287098788
Prelati is very entertaining. Maybe stops fights a bit too often but still fun to watch.
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>>287107720
He won the war with Solomon. Solomon was turned into a human as Romani and then Romani later asked Marisbury for employment. Romani was really unhappy about the cruel human experimentation that Marisbury was doing but seemed to be able to seperate Marisbury being an immoral mage and Marisbury the person. Marisbury is a chad that can't be stopped.
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>>287108069
It really does amuse me that Gilgamesh of all people is the one whose leadership is completely vindicated.
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>>287108090
Smart.
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Wait is Sigma's name John Strange Fake?
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>>287103351
>This is why higher-tier Servants, even with a superior Master and a near-limitless source of energy, can still never truly reach the heights of power they possessed in life. It doesn't matter how much energy you feed them, the Servant container itself isn't powerful enough to let them work at their original capacity.
This is literally false.
Saber, as early as FHA and HF is confirmed to reach the power she had in life/legend
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>>287108378
Sigma literally doesn't have a name since he was taken from his mother at birth. It'd be Hisau Somethingorother if he got to grow up with her.
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Redman....
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Gilgamesh didn't even really need to participate in the banquet of retards because his accomplishments speak for themselves.
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>>287108423
Heroic Spirits in class containers are filtered down so they lack a lot of stuff still. Only modern day people get a buff as Servants.
It's generally Heroic Spirit > Living self > Servant.
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i tried reading fate strange fake but its really bad
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>>287108357
I mean the entire thing is a parable about a king gaining humility/humanity
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>>287108552
HIs accomplishments mirror that of any warrior king back in the day
>Killed a few giant monsters to help his people

Beowolf did the same as a warrior king
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>>287108647
Fuck off Ishtar
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>>287108647
Gilgamesh did it first. Even Ivan was fellating him for it
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I wonder what AE Gilgamesh uses to compensate for Ea.
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>Clan Catalin are all objective good and moral people who want nothing more than to protect the people of their town
Somehow the magic weapons are the least unrealistic thing about Narita's depiction of American police officers
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>>287108657
>>287108748
She cute. Won't convert to weird Islamic sect for her, though
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>>287108718
He combined all of GoB into two giant hands that clap together like they're praying, and then snowfield is destroyed.
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>>287108754
>Invention of body cameras has entirely done a 180 on the perception of police in America over the last five years, as it turns out they're actually mostly moral, and everyone they run into is entirely crazy and trying to stab them
Vindicated
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>>287108798
What alternate dimension did you come out of?
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>>287108718
A reality marble that drags you into the gate of babylon and auto-hits
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>>287108718
His flood thing from F/P.
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>>287108872
as long as he doesn’t also take the conceptual NP of Proto Gil that allows him to survive Proto Herc, I’m fine with it
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>>287108718
I'm bored of GoB, including Enuma Elish.
I'm hoping for a brand new conceptual NP tied to the legend.
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>>287108943
Maybe he can manifest the actual Gate of Babylon and turn it into a Reality Marble
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>>287108984
bro stealing my idea
>287108866
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>>287098788
not watching this garbage but she's pretty cute
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>>287109072
>she's
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>>287109072
it's literally an old man
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Did they ever say why the Executor girls dress like 2B?
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How does Fran know about Fate Zero?
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>>287109072
That's an old man who summoned himself as a little boy for selfcest purposes.
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>keeps face covered throughout
>is easily the hottest character
what did they mean by this?
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>>287109327
The power of burkas and islam.
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>>287108718
One of the few details we have is that his GoB is different. His weapons don't disappear and go back to the gate. Wish Narita gave more info.
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>>287109171
He was regularly scrying Fuyuki since the third war. He was in antarctica when the fourth war happened but he was able to see most of the war at long range. (He wanted to join in personally but Zouken intercepted him and kicked his ass.)
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>>287101208
My hero :)
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>>287109616
;_;
He was way better than her actual parents.
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>>287098788
>Who do you think is going to win the grail war?
nobody
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Red is a good song until the rap music. Sawano is a double edge sword with his music
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>>287108374
which one is the best at squat fucking?
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Artoria's successor and Ayaka's fuarking HERO
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>>287109801
He will get Ayaka pregnant
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>>287109708
I think I actually just hate him now because every fucking song he's made for the last three years sounds the exact fucking same.
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>>287109841
you realized that now?
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>>287109841
more like the last ten
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>>287109841
even kajiura has this problem
but at least kajiura's music is enjoyable because it's close to classical music
sawano is just generic electronic trash
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>>287109417
Too bad it doesn't work IRL without the anime eyes.
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>>287098788
If this whore is obtainable in the collab event I'll reinstall JP FGO for the first time in like 7 years
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>>287109616
i thought the black mass was going to be evil but when its shape changed and you can tell its hugging her
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>>287109896
this but hippolyta
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>>287109841
>>287109863
what song in the last 10 years sounds like avalonian and curtsy?
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>>287109908
Hippo will be a SR at best
I'll kek if they make her a 3* cause what has she even done in this show
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>>287110045
there's no way she's not a SSR
she's a fucking saber face
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my beautiful braided islamic wife
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>>287110056
shes not a real saberface, and do you have any idea how many saberfaces are 4 stars?

hippo is mid. she has nowhere near the staying power for ssr in such an anticipated event.
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>>287110056
Nero is a Saberface but she's SR
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>>287110098
and she got an SSR version later on
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>>287108374
Why don't they wear spats?
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>>287110092
>still kept the burqa on
halal
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>>287110092
>zabania
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>tempted to start playing FGO because this anime reignited my nasuverse interest
>>this game is not available in your country
Lmao
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>>287110197
Your govt. literally saved you
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this is a man
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>>287110211
Why do you think that, anon?
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>>287110197
just get the apk, bro
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does Richard understand Artoria more than KoRT?
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>>287110211
...'s wife, specifically mine.
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>>287110211
a very beautiful man, one that I would like to take on a date
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>>287098788
I want to impregnate both Prelatis
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>>287110244
More than people like Gawain and Mordred, less than Bedivere and Lancelot, imo
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>>287101958
Going balls deep in Rin or masturbating to a Saber figure
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>>287108864
The world where bodycams revealed that most (but not all) cops are reasonable people just doing their jobs and the people who deal with police are not just crazy, but really fucking stupid, unable to follow simple directions and frequently make things worse for themselves.

There’s a reason there hasn’t been another George Floyd in six years.
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>>287098918
I tried to slop it up but damn Gemini has no idea what to do with Ayaka and Saber
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>>287110452
souless
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>>287109645
He is unironically the best parent in nasuverse I think
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>>287110452
Fuck is that Orstred from Live A Live
He'd be an Avenger class servant
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>>287110452
what is that discount Richard and ayaka
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>>287110068
That’s very unIslamic behavior.
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>>287110504
>>287110540
As I said it's kinda dumb.
It's better on this after I showed it a few pictures, no fucking idea why it keeps generating a fake ms paint interface just because I asked for a "ms paint style"
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>>287110211
>BEHOLD, A MAN
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>>287110569
Saber looks way better.
That's a frizzy Ayaka though
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>>287110393
If FSF is a Heaven’s Feel route. he’s going off in Sakura’s now worm-free pussy.
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wait FSF takes place only 5 years after 5th HGW?
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>>287110569
>that UI
whta the fuck
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>>287110596
When did you think it took place?
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>>287110622
2015 or something...
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>>287110589
They reference Hollow/Atarxia so all the routes kind of happen
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Who is gonna be the final boss in the last novel? Basically every "final boss" material is still around besides Ishtar.
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>>287110569
I'll be honest if you didn't tell me this was slop I'd have no fucking idea.
I hate this world
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is assassin flat or packing double Ds under that cloak
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>>287110664
>is assassin flat
No, Flat is a Master
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>>287110647
Eventually, AI will be indistinguishable from human-made, and no one will care.

Resistance is futile.
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>>287110452
You guys did not see that LB6 AI video did you?
https://x.com/AllMuscle2/status/2026279443451236463
The chink models are so indistinguishable from actual anime that they are being served up lawsuits
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>>287100646
>Wins the Grail
>Incarnates Assassin
>Adopts Tsubaki
>Pale Rider is also there for some reason
>Flat is still dead
>Waver's entire class did a Grail war without him
>Richard can't disappear because Ayaka's mana tanks too big
>She's probably immortal too
>Guess they can go to avalon or something
>maybe they can take Enkidu's dog with them.
But Faldeus, Bazildot, and a bunch of other characters I forgot are all fucked.
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So uhh, whats the point of ahab and the other retards?
Also has anyone acknowledged watcher yet or are they still doing the gay I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING IS WATCH-ING ME dance in the LN
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assassin is so pretty. reminds me of picrelated
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>>287110843
she makes my pp hard
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>>287110843
Someone acknowledged Watcher in the anime itself
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>>287110647
nta, I started learning to draw a couple years ago, realised I was dogshit and wouldn't see any results for awhile. Then got into image gen, produced thousands of pictures of coom and other garbage, dopamine receptors got fried and lost interest in the end. The best artists still beat out anything AI can shit out but god damn it is demoralising starting out now instead of a decade ago.
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>>287110958
why does she have long hair if she had short hair irl?
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>>287110843
Jiao acknowledged Watcher's presence. Other than that, they're just Sigma's cheats. Their point is to help Sigma cheat.
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>>287103810
Actually I'm pretty sure it was just 30 snipers from various rooftops.
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>>287107861
Anon, they're marksman rifles and high caliber sniper rifles. They aren't missing, they're over penetrating his body and hitting the pavement behind him. That's why his body is being flung around as he's hit.
Notice how the Mage in the 1st episode got turned into hamburger when they did it to him.
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>>287111005
Inferior to any servant with combat abilities
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>>287106435
Since mages are provably hard countered by bullets. Explain to me why projection magic + guns isn't the strongest thing in the world?
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>>287110988
don't worry an actual servant amelia earhart will have short hair probably
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>>287111178
eh, she wasn't even cute irl
she has that lesbo face
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>>287102801
Did he die a virgin?
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>>287111189
I still woulda torn her apart if I was a coconut crab
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>>287110583
You never seen Windows 95/XP MS Paint?
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>>287110701
On one hand it sucks because people gen the most boring shit imaginable, on the other hand internet artists all copy each other and chase trends so they're not much better. At least all AI suicides when fed its own outputs.
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>>287110988
The Heroic Spirit version is based on the idea of her and not the idiot she actually was.
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>>287111098
... yeah? Obviously? Thus, the cheating?
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>>287111238
It’s time to become a sculptor, AI can’t yet design and 3D-print sculptures.
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>>287111005
>Their point is to help Sigma cheat.
You got it entirely backwards
Their point is to make Sigma's life harder by giving him a series of trials
The trials are either meant to kill him or make him a hero
The trials aren't things you're guaranteed to win or survive, they're meant to be impossible situations you have to get out of yourself

They will never help him win a fight
They're there to test his survival
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>>287111145
Because Shirou doesn't actually do projection magic, which is something secondaries still don't get after 10 years
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>>287110701
Nah, fuck slop
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>>287111343
No, the trials are already set in place. The shadows don't deal them out, they help him through in their own way.
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>>287111287
Nothing is safe
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>>287110569
kinda fappable
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>>287111366
It's literally watcher's skill

>■ Trials of _____: B
>A variant of a certain anti-humanity skill. Watcher is able to bestow trials on lifeforms born from wombs by altering their luck. Because it is not powerful enough to manipulate fate, this ability is primarily used on Watcher’s own Master. Watcher’s Master is extremely likely to die.

Notice the skill says "watcher is able to bestow" not "some random person bestows the trials and watcher is merely there to help sigma" like you think
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>>287100655
he's dogshit
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Season 2 is going to be such a shitshow when Enkidu continues to not be relevant for rhe first 10 episodes then he heals Gil episode 11 before the finale
This really needed to be 3-5 cours
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How did they make such a simple design look so good
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is the full OST out? if not, do we know when?
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>>287111351
But Rin said so
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>>287111343
Watcher is just there to give him information, He Is basically playing a Telltale game with the viable options with Watcher watching which route he choose.
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>>287111401
Yes, Watcher. Not Watcher's Shadows, who are not Watcher.
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>>287111430
Enkidu is literally relevant immediately after the next season starts though?
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>>287111511
The shadows are not actually heroic spirits, they're fakes
They aren't individual personalities either

They ARE watcher communicating in the only way it can, using various shadows that can speak human
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Flat is a gary stu
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>>287111627
Why did he het fucked then
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>>287111627
If that were true he would still be alive
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>>287111373
Ah shit
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>>287110151
why would they
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>>287111602
They explicitly say they're not Watcher. They're terminals used to speak for Watcher, and they ARE individual personalities with their own traits and behaviors, Asclepius even makes commentary that only Asclepius would make because Narita was embarrassed about him becoming a servant in F/GO.
They're just a peanut gallery. They answer whatever questions Sigma has honestly. They give him occasional warning of things that he has no way of knowing about. That's their job. If that helps him through the trials, so much the better.
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>>287111438
Simple designs are goated.
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>>287111430
Enkidu is a powerhouse in vol 7 and 8, which starts asap in S2
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>>287111749
would Avalon heal brown his skin and hair if it were to activate?
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>>287111727
Without Pale Rider in the war, Enkidu gets a huge boost.
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>heal brown his skin
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>>287111792
Forgive me, I have a cold right now.
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wait the dude is Maya's son????
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>>287110211
waver?
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>>287105455
I think the E-rank luck is born from him flopping this hard with Saber.
Other version of Shirou have amazing luck in comparison like winning the lottery from Van-Fem.
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>>287107129
Start by playing Fate Grand Order, it is a mobile game that will teach you everything you need to know about the Fate universe. And it comes in the format of a VN. No better way to start.
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>>287105455
Meanwhile Nameless in Extra is a giga chad James Bond womanizer.
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>>287107129
start with fate/hollow ataraxia, followed by fate/extra, and just keep working through things in release order
do not touch fate/grand order. like all gatchashit it is a bad game with terrible pacing and godawful combat designed to make you impulsively spend money to try and make the experience of playing it less miserable
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>>287111879
>muh excalibur light never reach the king in avalon
He gets a pass for being over it unlike Kekcher.
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>>287111842
Are you going to sink as low as worms?
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>>287111918
I sorta imagine him as DMC1 Dante, but with 100% more sex.
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>>287112068
I am a worm before I'm a man
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>>287098788
Clan Calatin got this. They got a trap who is also french. Those are two very winning traits.
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>>287112085
Okay Leto II
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>>287111851
I'm too retarded to bypass the region lock
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>>287111842
But Gil's country was prosperous after he gets shit together. Iskandar's kingdom dies after his death, same with Artoria's.
I think trying to make Artoria perfect caused every single KoTR and Merlin to be retarded.
Lancelot only slept with Guinevere because they love Artoria ffs. It's like fans fucking each other because they worship the same person.
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>>287112381
you just download an apk
and install it
how is that hard
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>>287112481
>Iskandar's kingdom dies after his death, same with Artoria's.
Camlot was destined to die which is what fucked Merlin internally.
He basically messed with a girl life to be a king for a kingdom that is destined to be gone.
It makes since it's a parallel to Shirou who got his survivor guilt even though he shouldn't have it.
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>>287112481
>It's like fans fucking each other because they worship the same person
... Is it wrong I can see myself doing that with anon?
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Why hasn't Guinevere appeared in Fate yet? Every Shirou self-inserter prefers Rin or Sakura these days
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>>287112584
Why would she? She's a useless whore with no discerning traits or abilities
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>>287112562
>destined to die
This was a retcon that makes Artoria look even more perfect.
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>>287098788
Was this the last episode? I barely understand what's happening. Who's the pimp drug lord on the yacht? Why would Mr. Black be mean to the little girl? Doesn't he love her? What is happening.
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>>287107649
no they don't, that's not how it works
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>>287112593
Nah, it was in the original VN too
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>>287112580
I mean there's proof of idolfags and vtuberfags doing that. Some of them even marry each other.
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>>287112594
>pimp drug lord on the yacht
Vampire
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>>287112593
This is what FGO lore autism does to your mind.
For fuck sake, this isn't even the point of her character in her own route.
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>>287112611
Do you have a pic? It seems like GoA material to me.
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>>287112620
>FGO lore autism
Saber Artoria barely gets anything in FGO, dumbass.
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>>287112615
But why did he say he knew the golden retriever guy? And he knew his uncle or something too. There's so many weird references to things I haven't seen or heard of. Am I supposed to?
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>>287112590
Nasu said she's a megane dork
In other words she's Camelot Ayaka
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>>287112736
Flat is a gary stu
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>>287112736
He knew Flat's distant ancestor because he's an ancient vampire king.
>Am I supposed to?
If you care about the setting, yes, you'd know this guy from materials. If you don't care about the setting, it's not important; you should be able to get that he's an ancient vampire who knew Flat's ancestor, because he fucking said that on screen, pay attention next time.
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I like Faldeus because he cares about america
If it weren't for that I'd hate him
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>You saying you don't know if Allah is the one true God and Mohammed (Peace be upon him) his prophet?
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>>287112643
Saber’s backstory on day 13 - memories of the king part 3.
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I knew my spear-tan daughter was not a quitter.
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>>287112381
There's an NA version on the app store? The region lock is old stuff, FGO is on the app store for a long time now.
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The only thing Artoria is good for is sex.
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>>287112851
>If you don't care about the setting, it's not important; you should be able to get that he's an ancient vampire who knew Flat's ancestor, because he fucking said that on screen, pay attention next time.
No, don't be pretentious. Vomiting a bunch of nonsense memberberry references to other material is detrimental to the show. If it's important, establish it in the goddamn show. This is MCU-tier multiverse sloppery, but you'll find some way to brush that off and male excuses for how it's akshually different won't you? Hypocritical.
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>>287112914
Everyone...
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>>287112915
Him being an ancient vampire king is, in fact, not important. What is important is he knew Flat's ancestor. We know this.. because he said.. he knew Flat's ancestor. In the show. That is. The establishment. You are requesting. That is all that matters to the subject.
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Why Zimbawe has its arms on its hips? Is he proud of the destruction Huriri told him to cause?
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>>287112929
What's important is this random motherfucker showed up to solve a situation out of nowhere when he'd never been established as a presence until right then.
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>>287112948
What situation do you think he solved, exactly?
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>>287112948
He didn't really do anything besides call out Jester for his yurifaggotry.
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>>287108069
What is Saber supposed to do about famine and drought? Besides, magical deus ex machina powers isn't what we're talking about. In the real world, in real life, in our current real world governments, what would you prefer? A leader that's completely selflessly and wholly devoted to raising the quality of life for their people? Or a leader who randomly decides to send their military out to look for some magical fantasy land that doesn't exist? Saber's mentality is preferable for a leader than that of Gilgamesh and Iskandar.
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Everytime Asclepius speaks I am reminded of how fucking deep it is.
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>>287112987
i'll prefer the leader who has insane loyalty from their people and a proven record of success that continues after their deatah
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>>287112987
>A leader that's completely selflessly and wholly devoted to raising the quality of life for their people?
So Gilgamesh? Artoria left Camelot to go to France to look for her traitor knight (who would proceed to betray her again) and her kingdom rebelled because she was a shit king.
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>>287113033
Gilgamesh's nonsense nearly led his kingdom to total ruin and he only shaped up near the very end of his reign. I'd prefer a leader that didn't have a period of total fucking bullshit.
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>>287112935
She is a goofy fellow.
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The ideal leader would basically be a supercomputer that calculated the best possible path to prosperity and stability given the resources and situation at hand. No ego, no selfishness, just 100% absolute objectivity and calculations backed by hard numbers.
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>>287113033
>Artoria left Camelot to go to France
No she didn’t. She went to Rome because the latter where preparing an invasion
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>>287113097
Calm down Maris
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>>287113107
Then she hit her head and became Nero
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>>287113131
Regardless of its portrayal in fiction, it resolves a lot of the issues that plague modern governments. Personally, I'm pretty fucking sick of the incompetence and corruption in our governments. Who the fuck would look at the current state of things and think "Goddamn, our governments sure are doing a great fucking job!"

Honestly, most people just want things to work properly. Most normal people don't actually care who's in charge so long as they're properly doing what they're supposed to do.
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>>287113150
She beat up the Romans and forced them to sign a peace treaty, lmao.
It’s why Boudicca likes her
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>>287113097
So Solomon
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>>287113173
No, Solomon fucked up by creating Goetia.
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>>287113150
Btw, why did Nasu turned Nero into a dindunuffin? She call herself a tyrant, but apparently all she did was for luv.
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WMAF FSF>>>AMWF FSN
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Trust the plan.
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>>287113204
No, she did plenty. Hakuno just doesn't care much about what happened hundreds of years before they were born.
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>>287113204
Because he was jealous of Urobuchi and wanted his own Alexander.
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>>287113182
Goetia was the supercomputer that was supposed to save everyone but that "100% absolute objectivity" decided "the only solution is to start over"
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>>287113182
Everything is fine with goetia for 99% of parallel universes. It's just the one particular FGO universe that fucked up everything so hard that even Goetia's plan to reset humanity actually wasn't so bad in comparison to what Animusphere did to the whole world.
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>>287100753
No. Those are Richard and Ayaka.
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>>287100883
Mordred and Sieg would even make more sense when they are both homunculi who could relate each other. And h could take her to the Reverse side when he becomes a dragon.
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>>287113232
The issue is that supercomputer was capable of emotions and biases. It would be better if there was just a supercomputer that calculated the best possible paths for stability and prosperity.

The ideal machine leader would have the following qualities:
1) Zero emotions or capacity for higher intelligence. All it does is take in data, crunch numbers and provide calculations for various outcomes. "At this rate, the economy will tank even further in the next five years. These are the steps that should be taken to avoid this." "At this rate, tensions between these two nations will reach an all time high and war there is a xx% chance that war will break out. These are the steps that should be taken to prevent this from happening." Etc., etc.
2) The machine has no ability to enact anything on its own. All it does is provide data in as thorough detail as possible, while also listing possible steps to achieve certain results. The people then take this data and follow the steps to reach the ideal outcome whilst prioritizing ethics and humanity.
4) The machine cannot be manipulated in any way. No one can alter its calculations to suit their own ulterior motives.

Because the machine is cold, unfeeling and incapable of sentience, it cannot rebel.
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>>287101580
Because Flat is a "strange fake" (pun). Like it's the human mask for something that will destroy and replace humanity if fully committed to this.

That's why Jack was afraid of Flat. He wasn't cared of his Master but whatever was underneath. A protector of the Human Order can detect threats against humanity.
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>>287098918
here you go
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>>287103756
>>287105455
Both Rin and Shirou literally say Archer's in love with Seiba in UBW. The opening of the VN is actually his POV.
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>>287111879
Nameless was joking and pissing off Hakunon. He has an attack he's still holding a torch for Saber.
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>>287113319
Nah, Nameless did have lovers in life. The only Shirou that remains faithful to Saber from beginning to end is Fate route Shirou.
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>>287106561
The Flat shot deconstructs those because it makes things worse.
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>>287107720
Casters are broken when they are the powerful ones anon. It's that you usually pull garbage like a writer.
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>>287111451
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>>287112851
>If you care about the setting, yes, you'd know this guy from materials
Now let's not exaggerate here. Van Fem has been around since forever but he has never done absolutely anything other than be a footnote and first showed up in person here followed by Adventures. He's an extremely minor character who is more tied to Tsukihime than he ever was to Fate originally so it's understandable that people have no idea who he is. I would put him lower than Altrouge and Blackmore and one of those actually never showed up.
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>>287113308
Incredible
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>>287113061
Tough first half with a happy latter half or a happy first half and then death?
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>>287113308
based
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>>287113367
How many people do you think suffered and died while he was off on his little immortality hunt, anon?
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>>287108357
The Gilgamesh summoned as Archer has a mentality before his journey. The Gilgamesh of Babylonia is just an old man wearing a young skin. He's wise ruler. Neither Iskandar nor Artoria got a chance to mature as he did. It's not fair to compare them.
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>>287113383
How many people do you think died in Camelot's cuckoldry war? Gil's citizens mostly just moved away.
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>>287113306
This reads like an AI post. What?
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>>287110197
google cereal fgo.
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>>287113406
I initially thought anon was going to make a joke like the meme "thank you [series name]" but I guess not
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Thank you strange/fake
Yours truly were my strange fake
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>>287112481
Iskandar's function was to spread civilization and he did, Artoria function was to hold the last phantasm and pass on. She was actually wrong for fighting her...fate.
The only way to 'save' that Britain was if Morgan ruled it but that would have caused it to become isolated from humanity.
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>>287113426
>>287113406
When the parents say a "child like Flat" never existed, it was accurate. Flat is not a real person. He is more of a seal that conceals Thia.
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>>287113386
What class would Gil need to be summoned in order to be the old man?
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>>287113485
Caster. Apparently, Gilgamesh never physically aged past his prime. He did have a set lifespan and he did live a very long life, but he basically stopped aging at around 18-20-ish.
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>>287113499
So he never had the glorious beard?
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>>287113485
Caster. He doesn't look old because he never aged, but he's old inside and chiller.
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>>287113528
No. This is him after his journey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MloIqxggk4o
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>>287113460
Ah fuck they really made her look even more like Azrael.
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>>287113532
Why caster though?
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>>287113549
Caster is the "smart guy" class.
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Kadoc in S2?
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>>287113574
Statdump all int no wis.
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>>287113589
Narita literally changed from zouken cucking Prelatti to get into Fuyuki Grail War IV to Heartless (aka Marisbilly's lackey). He's tempted.
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>>287107493
manaka's crotch soon I hope
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>>287113607
I will wait, then.
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>>287098788
Never seen a character begging so hard to be violently dommed and corrected.
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>>287113663
Anon that's a man
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>>287113691
he's just like me
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>>287113691
was*
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>>287113691
It's a man (female). It's fine.
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>>287113691
Still want to correct both
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can someone explain to me the Enkidu wifi meme?
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>>287113364
>>287113379
Thank you anon tachi
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He is simply the best
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>>287113460
waver is so cute
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>>287113815
Enkidu's NP brings worlds together, so he brought the netherworld close enough to the human world for Flat to contact Waver.
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>>287113862
What were the big skeletons actually? They didn't seem like a big deal.
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>>287114012
Simple ghosts. They're not a big deal but never destroyed and more will keep coming.
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>>287114036
Did he deserve it?
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>>287114036
Why was he walking around in broad daylight like a retard?
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>>287114040
I honestly imagined one aspect of death to be much more destructive and op but his issue got solved in one episode.
I get that his master being a little girl played quite the part, since she basically kept him on a leash and passive but still.
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>>287100190
It is a pretty big deal for basically the 2nd most important Hassan in lore to tell Zealot she is not a Hassan, that she is instead meant to be protected as a civilian as what Hassans are fighting for.

I interpret that as the "go home and be a family woman." That it is not her role to die for others like what he is doing.
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>>287113574
There's more dumb casters than smart ones
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>>287114082
I see it more as "you don't have to be a living martyr for your people, you can be your own person and fight your own battles".
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>>287101749
>am i supposed to know what any of that means in the anime
I am sure all of that is saved for season 2. No point showing that this season.
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>>287113600
Fate's embodiment of that is a Rider though
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>>287107433
>What would happen to poor Assassin then? Would Jester rape her?
He would do it purely because she wants to resist. Which is why she needed him dead asap. It's not even an "IF" question, that is 100% Jester's MO.
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>>287114153
Riders are DEX chad
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>>287114082
Fate is always about having the strength to defy fate and carving out the path that you think is right. When someone says that you are someone that we are supposed to be protecting, the idea is that we have failed you, because you shouldn't have have been put in this position to begin with. But that's exactly how heroes of justice are made, when someone is pushed to do what they feel is right.

That's what Fate is about. You might be the weakest master or servant or whatever but having the strength to stand up for your ideals is what makes you worthy.
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>>287113208
AMWF is the true soul of the Nasuverse
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Servant x Master is what people wanted from Fate.
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No I just want personalities from my culture kicking ass in holy grail wars and jobbing slightly less than the other guys or at least looking cool while they do it.
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>>287113460
What if she's First Hassan's granddaughter or something
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>>287114113
Sure, I don't mean she shouldn't fight at all. But I do believe the story is telling her to survive the war, even though she is a Servant. Because up to now she basically fights with no regard to personal safety as zealots do.
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The people demands vore from Fate
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I demand Case Files S2.
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I want to mana transfer with Medusa
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>>287114541
Shirou....
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>>287114468
>What if she's First Hassan's granddaughter or something
There was never any genetic link between Hassans. it would be bad to introduce it now. Shonen manga focus on genetics too much, to the point even the Japanese are annoyed. Why is is that every random shonen protagonist ended up being the descendent of someone famous? That just makes everyone else look bad. But at least they are consistent. Stick to one or another.

Funny thing is that genetic inheritance of magic circuits is what makes magus families so evil. They start to feel they are special and thus above normal people. Leading to all these pieces of shit magus parents.
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I love Rin.
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...'s sister.
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>>287114036
I think mages are kinda shit compared to Church's executioners. Noel for example is able to create a barrier on the fly that was able to repel thousands of tons of debris. So definitely enough to repel bullets.
I imagine it has to do with a difference in specializations, but still, pretty lame for mages.
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>>287114528
Yeah, for Reines
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>>287113097
That would actually be a terrible leader

You should watch more Star Trek
>Computer determines that killing off part of its population will benefit the whole
>Computer determines mind controlling very lightly its population so they forget about the people that die will help productivity
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>>287114713
What if Nasu wrote Star Trek?
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>>287114680
Shouldn't she be old enough to be Lord El-Melloi in 2009? Did she give up the title just to keep Waver as her toy?
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>>287102818
Heaven
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>>287114746
She's probably coming up with whatever excuse to keep him from running away. Wouldn't be surprised if she told him she'd keep lowering the debt as long as he kept the title. She has him by the balls.
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>>287114553
Which is why I love Kenichi series. Just a guy that works hard courtesy of his masters.
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>>287113386
You did not play CCC. Gilgamesh also corresponds to the point after finishing his journey and returning to Uruk
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Why does Garcher never trace Caliburn?
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>>287114986
Retconned by FGO
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>>287115024
KEKAROO
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I jobbed again...



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