What a masterpiece of an anime. Frederica is a retarded character, but aside from that this is a 10/10. Thoughts?
>>287100364The first half was excellent.
>>287100813This. The actual war/combat/mecha is shit, the drama and budding Skype romance (while your friends die and you're being genocided) is really good. Lena's double ahoge is also really good.
>>287100813no, it was not
>>287100813>>287101439The last 2 episodes of the second half were the best in the entire anime, it's impossible not to cry during the scene where Shin sees Lena for the first time.
>>287101490The finale was good, but for me the lead-up to it was such a slog I couldn't even enjoy it.
>>287101490They were great when considered in isolation but the rest of the second part was poor compared to the first. The first part was strong throughout and did everything well, it might not have reached the climactic high that the field of flowers and the eventual reunion did but it was consistently executed just as well. Also Lena's actions at the end of part one, where she helps them directly, was an equally high point in the anime IMO. I loved that.>>287101552I could still enjoy it but it certainly detracted from it, I was tired of the anime by then whereas the whole of part one just kept me wanting more.
What's the director is doing these days? He did a god tier job with that one episode in nier automata anime.
>>287101552>>287101647Yeah, man, I personally heavily disliked Frederica. She's like 10 years old but she acts like an adult giving life advice to other characters. Ernst's character was also a miss for me, I mean, nothing wrong about his ideals and personality, but that's just not how a government works, it's too idealized. I think I'm gonna start reading the novels, I hope they explore the romance between Lena and Shin more.
Lena mating press
>>287101758As far as my second-hand knowledge of them goes, they do; at least they do by virtue of the fact they advance the story beyond what we saw in the anime and therefore advance the relationship. Whether they enhance or do a better job of showing it in the material animated I don't know. I have also heard it's a lot of typically shitty LN writing and the author falls in to long segments of wanking off Shin. BTW for some reason the preview of this weebum shat itself when I selected it, so I have no idea what it is other than that it is 86. I'm hoping it's a cute Lena.
I wanna see this thing animated
>>287101839>typically shitty LN writingFor real? Since the author mentions classical literature so much in the story I thought she'd be at least a competent writer.
>>287101894Dunno, just what I've heard. I could see it though, il/lit/erates have read every Russian classic lit masterpiece 3 times and have a degree in "the Greeks" and they're still drooling retards.
Lena's cute underwear.
>>287100364It died when it turned from grimdark mecha to romcom
>>287102502Except it's darker than ever now
>>287102502It was best when it had both, a bit like Full Metal Panic.
>>287102068Anyone that has read the Russians and the Greeks is certainly above average. The people you're referring to are mostly charlatans who pretend to have read them.
>>287101758>I think I'm gonna start reading the novels, I hope they explore the romance between Lena and Shin more.They do, alot actually, it is however very much a slow burn
>>287103273Should I read all the way from the start or should I start from volume 4 considering I already watched the anime?
>>287103381Honestly you can start from volume 4 onwards, this is one of the few anime i personally feel like goes beyond just adapting the source material and makes it actually better.
>>287100364This is just a ripoff of a Code Geass spinoff
>>287103558You wish Code Geass was as good as this.
>>287103692I said spinoffYou wish I was talking about main Code Geass
The style of this director would've been perfect for adapting something like Bugle Call
>>287104029>Bulge Call in the style of 86Yes, please.
>>287100364Should I watch ts chat
>>287100364This series really needed to give the main heroine a boyfriend / fiancee from her own race.Like, her entire society is this hamfisted racist metaphor, where they're all idiots dooming themselves. So she's one of the 'good ones'.But I think it would have been way more interesting if they'd taken a more nuanced look at things - Showing that the government is not stupid and the Eighty-Six are not a poor, oppressed psychic minority. Then that way, you have tremendous tension on both sides of the divide. It's the same issue as something like Sentenced to Be a Hero - The penal legion actually is more competent and better-armed than the 'standard' soldiers, who are just mooks. In fact, the Alba don't have an army. They're relying on the penal legion as their sole defense, really, and they're doomed if their poorly-armed conscripts fail. So they're simultaneously oppressively powerful enough to force thousands to their deaths over racism...And too weak and stupid to save themselves. I think that if we saw the Republic's army - and they're piloting gleaming, sophisticated mechs - it changes the dynamic...Because now we know they don't need the penal legion, it's an excuse for ethnic cleansing, and it's no longer "But can we defend the people who hate us?" but rather "How do we survive when both sides are trying to kill us simultaneously?"
>>287100364season 1 is a 7/10, starts strong becomes mediocreseason 2 is a 3/10 absolute garbage until the last two episodes which are 9/10 but doesn't make up for it, so the overall season is still 5/10 at best
>>287104029>>287104070>Bugle CallWhat's that? Is there romance?
>>287104204Been a while since I read the LNs but weren't Alban static defenses enough to stop the Legion before they started changing it up? It's still complacent and dumb but not as if they were completely defenseless.
>>287104543It doesn't change the fact they don't have an army of their own. The 86ers are barrier troops, and you need guns at the back of barrier troops for an implicit or explicit threat.Instead the Alba have nothing. They have no way to project force at all. It would be like a nation that doesn't have tanks, an air force or a navy.
>>287100364>Frederica is a retarded characterFacts. Teoritta is Frederica done right>>287103827based Akito poster. I kept making the same posts from time to time so that anons would see the truth but then eventually got tired of doing it
It's underrated because normies don't like mecha
>>287104706Transformers is one of the most popular franchises in the world, bro.
>>287104534It's a fantasy manga about a war torn medieval world where some people awaken tree branch based superpowers. MC is a musician who can visualize his own emotions via music and use them to guide others on a massive, army scale. A local pope trades his service for a chance for him to professionally study music, so the boy becomes an army commander since his power gives him an effective way to control entire armies and literally play RTS with them. It features a ton of cool combat setpieces with several branched combining their powers with normal troops for unorthodox tactics, there's a huge emphasis on a core cast and how batshit all of them are. There are two girls who want MC's dick and both of them are batshit in their own way. One is a sadist, another is 27 years old with a mind of a kid. Both are awesome.The manga is choke full of stylish spreads and cool action segments, someone akin to 86's director would have a field day both with it and psychological/dramatic moments.
>>287101682The show was definitely elevated by the directing. It oscillates between very well-directed action drama and horribly written teen novel drama. And the mecha and setting are genuinely unique. >>287101758I think the real problem with the series is when any character goes into a rant. Frederica and Ernst certainly stand out here because they do it the most, but it's not just them. The awkwardness of a lot of the dialogue just makes it hard to enjoy, even though I have to give it a lot of credit for originality and effort.
New season when?
>>287101758>She's like 10 years old but she acts like an adult giving life advice to other charactersit's because her powers allow her to experience everything the other person is experiencing and she uses it on everybody she meets so she technically speedruns peoples' lives.
>>287100364aeity shiks?season 2 was retarded. I don't remember what happened in it, but I remember that it was retarded. first one was good
>>287103513
>>287104640They're not the same. Fred has more going on than Teo.
>>287108021I also find Comic Sans to be terrifying.
>>287107252I am once again asking for the 86 director to be let out of his cage to direct more shows.
>>287100364>Every battalion gets a battle loli.
>>287108174Does it matter who's the director of an anime? They all just follow the source material, be it manga or light novels, to the letter.
>>287108684Kek I almost dropped at that part, that was so fucking retarded.
>>287100364It is rather good, but fake out deaths are my most hated thing ever, so I'm sure you can guess how I felt at the start of season 2 and some of the later portions
>>287108787Did you actually believe they'd kill the entire cast of main characters and only have Lena in season 2? Like, really, my nigga?
>>287108684>>287108772That's not a thing. It's an old-ass tradition they don't follow anymore.
>>287108819I'd be a lot more interesting if they did. She did bond with another squad afterwards. Pretty sure they could've filled a season if they weren't turned into the B plot
>>287108751Compare Minamie-ke S1 to subsequent seasons.
the goblin
>>287100364Any news on another season?, last time I've checked it was only rumors, but I've been sorta bussy so I don't have time to scroll the jp side of the net
>>287109153Only rumors. And not even new rumors. I'll believe it when I see it, and I'm not seeing shit.
>>287109153>>287109174The anime wasn't so successful, there probably won't be another season.
>>287104706This is one of the mecha normalfags like, you fucking retard
>>287109427Japan's shit taste strikes again.
Isn't the final volume out by now? What's the ending?
>>287100364>static.wikia.nocookie.net/s4league/images/9/96/LuteousRevolver_2.png>eight six>seven of nine>serpent of nile>mfw I escaped that shitty life again
>>287104706>normiesOpinion discarded.
ive read up to book 12 (i think), the quality of the story gets better then takes a nosedive. Everything after the 86 get nautical feels like the author is trying to drag the story out for no reason, the setup for the finale is already done just make it happen.
>>287108049she is useless headpat slut with dead waga kishiAt least Teoritta can summon swords, is cute and her waga kishi is alive (and can be resurrected when needed)
>>287112231Yeah. Some of the individual arcs are good, like the boat arc, but the overall plot seem to be on pause for no real reason.
>>287101439If they hadn't gone so overboard with the brain snatching yapping it would've been pretty good for its entire duration. Frederica is fine.
>>287101439>The actual war/combat/mecha is shitBite me.
Lena sex
>>287112231Yeah, I put it on hold it after volume 9. Volumes 4 to 6 were awesome, 7 was too corny, and then 8 and 9 were just boring and felt like they were leading in the wrong direction.>>287112636Teoritta was shit character. Frederica at least has some actual personality.
>>287100364Thought it was dog shit boring but the scientist lady friend was super fucking cute. God
Lena creampies
>>287114159You're dogshit.
>>287115529Her ahoge curls up like other girls' toes do.
>>287100364I disagree with you but respect your opinion.
>>287113943stupid white pig only good for one thing
>>287116323Why do you disagree?
>>287116509>character is hit and beutiful>some hack fan-artist decides to giive her ridiculous looking and off-model ovesize boobs and ruins itWhy are they like this?
>>287118473Too much porn
>>287118473>hit and beutifulshe's what now?
>>287119361Hot
So what was good about this anime? Was it a sorrowful dramatic tale or triumph and tragedy? Or was it just another self insert gf simulator?
>>287100364It filtered me episode 2
>>287120021It was pretentious shit by an idiot who thought they were saving the world with their stories
>>287100364My only gripe is that the 2nd half story beat wise was a pretty strong mirror of the first half, but I enjoyed it ultimately.
>>287120124Sounds possibly good but could flop
>>287100364How can it be a masterpiece if it has no ending besides "LOL READ THE LN"?
I doubt there will be a second season. The LN is close to being finished and it's not particularly popular in nipland as far as i know.LN anime adaptations are always just glorified ads for the LNs and there is no reason to advertise this one anymore.
>>287120542I want to believe.
>>287100364thought it was gonna be another badly written edgeslop but it's actually goodI especially liked the 2nd opening, it really set the tone and immersed mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YnI1h8HNZo
>>287120021The premise is beyond retarded, and not subtle AT ALL, but the character drama and cinematography is really good. Sawanoslop here is one of his best too, helped elevate emotional scenes even further.
>>287122030>The premise is beyond retarded, and not subtle AT ALLThe reality isn't subtle at all either.
>>287120542Manga anime adaptions now are usually the same thing unless they make a lot of money.
>>287102657it went from dark to grimdark which is the issue
>>287108751Watch shibou yuugi
>>287108751>to the letter.that's the issue, they sometimes dont. Some recent adaptations that got shit on exaclty because the director decided to not follow the source are Chainsaw man and otherside picnic. Otherside picnic specifically got completely destroyed for no reason other than the director deciding to do "something different".On the other hand, adaptations like bocchi the rock are amazing exactly because the director did not follow the source to a T. I would argue 86's adaptation's pretty good also because it's not exacly a 1:1.
>>287108751You're a gigantic fucking retard. I bet you think AI slop can help make better anime.
There isn't enough Kurena fanservice in this show
>>287121434I fucking love that drop. I fucking love this show.
>>287122901She's a cuckquean
>>287123662Finally I can post this pic and delete it.
I only remember the huge ass delays when it aired
>>287123709>MCs shitty self-insert wins her edgy husbando instead of the perfect tomboy girlExpecting anything else from this shitshow would be too foolish
>>287122901The only Kurena fanservice I like is when people bully her.
>>287123961rude
Best 86 girls1. Lena2. Whore's Daughter3. Anett4. Kurena-chan5. Kaie
>>287124588That was uncalled for.
>>287124588>AnettOnly good for getting NTRd by Lena
>>287124588Best girl is not animated yet
>>287126282She doesn't do enough outside her intro arc.
>>287124588Where is Teoritta?
Very overrated anime
Lena riding your cock with all her might
>>287127056*overhated
>>287120472My man if someone makes an actually good story with the kind of mindset that went into 86 it'd be a bigger miracle than if they actually brought world peace with it like they wanted to
>>287100364Ss1 was too overrated. It was carried so hard by an incredible adaptation. Vol 1 is good, but vol 2 and 3 are disaster, absolutely terrible.But, the next trilogy, vol 4-5-6, is fucking amazing, so ss2 is gonna be fucking great!
>>287122375I do, actually and I bet you'll eat those words 5 years from now when AI becomes the standard for creating media.
>>287100813fpbpfirst galh was good and then it went full retard
>>287129670That will be the day I make the KyoAni arson look like a fucking joke.
>>287129722How so?
>>287129670The day that happens is the day I kill a man
>>287108891I had an idea rolling around in my head for a filler season between 1-2 (remember when they used to do filler seasons?) about Lena putting together that new crew she has when we flash back to her in S2. They have to defeat an anime-original Shepard that uses the S1 fakeout and a bunch of red herrings to make the anime-onlys think it's Legion'd Shin.
>>287100364Juvenile ass show. Let's strip away all the stakes fromS1 from some reason and ruin it with fake out deaths. Surprise suprise, there's also zero casualties from the main cast in the LN.
>>287130381Your first time watching an edgy anime?
>>287130330You had me at "Lena".
>>287129236Very in-character.
>>287130330Yes, we all want more Lena.
>>287130381It took you that far to realise how juvenile it was?
>>287130381Strip away the stakes? The Republic fucking collapsed and was on the verge of destructing in season 2. Zero casualties? Literally everyone in the Spearhead squadron died except for 5 people, the fucking president of the Republic died. You're a fucking moron.
>>287100364it was trash. even retarded gundam was better written and more entertaining
>>287101894>mentions classical literatureThere is a Moby Dick volume where they help Captain Ishmael fight laser whales
>>287131057You blind? I said there are no casualties from the main cast. Your ‘stakes’ mean nothing when it’s just side characters experiencing them. That’s like asking me to care about the 8 billion people who died in Attack on Titan.
>>287123709Brutal
>>287100813I never watched the second half. I saw them get 'adopted' and then abruptly stopped watching. I don't even think I had a bad taste in my mouth I just stopped watching it.Is it worth going back? Keep in mind I suffered through the second halves of Guilty Crown, Valvrape and Aldnoah Zero (but those were a long time ago)
>>287127077Lena would be extremely dorky her first time.
If you're watching this as anythingother than a teenage romance you're doing it wrong. And that is by its very nature an overdramatic mess.
The ending for the latest LN volume was crazy.It was a flash-forward to after the Legion was defeated. Kurena was watching Shin and Lena have sex in Lena's rebuilt mansion while sitting on a chair near them. Kurena was sobbing and crying as she saw Shin thrust inside Lena. When Shin blew his load, Kurena screamed, collapsed on the ground. curled into the fetal position, and began whimpering.
>>287101894Author is pretentious and her references are eye rolling.
>>287113943>>287116509>>287119361>>287121340Indeed!I remember liking the novels at first. But it got bad as story went on.And I kind of didn't enjoy anime.
>>287132782She's so fucking hot.
>>287132871
The clanker arc was great.
>>287132904who got this cutie?
>>287132054It's not as bad as those, which are mostly bad due to being nonsensical. Part 2 is mostly just a letdown compared to part 1. Still worth it for the ekranoplan and ending, it's truly beautiful.
>>287100364masterpiece? probably. just like edgerunners is also a masterpiece, i guess.
>>287123709>kurena suffers in the trenches with him but does nothing>lena talks with him a few times and has hot post-trauma sex with himkurena has nobody to blame but herself, it's fucking war and she should be jumping on who she likes before she dies
>>287133327How is Edgerunners not a masterpiece? It's the only anime that made me actually depressed at the end.
>>287133327unironically I think they're both great
>>287100364The main couple of the last non-A-1 Pictures series you watched replaces Shin and Lena as the leaders of the 86 Squadron.How likely would everyone get killed in action during the Legion War?
>>287133663>How likely would everyone get killed in action during the Legion War?100%
>>287100364brain-eating zombie robot spawn is an interdasting concept. otherwise i wished it was more like Battletech.
>>287132891So FUCKING hot!!>>287133468>lena has hot post-trauma sex with himWait, really?
>>287133663Xylo and Kivia will win the war for sure. Both are experienced military commandersXylo even knows how to pilot mecha, he will be fine
