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In light of recent sequel news I thought I could do with a reread

What is this about?
>Kenichi, who has been bullied but wishes to be strong, joins Karate club upon entering senior high school. However, he gets picked on by the other pupils in the club everyday. One day, Kenichi meets Miu, a beautiful girl who has just transferred from another high school. On Miu’s suggestion, Kenichi decides to be a disciple of Ryozanpaku, a mysterious training establishment. Kenichi could not imagine the brutal training he receives from the martial arts masters there… However, now Kenichi is marked by Ragnarok, a street gang group, and he is constantly defending himself from them.

I haven't read this since it ended back in the day so in a lot of ways this will be more than just a refresher
At a volume per day we should end a little bit after the new chapter has come out

There are new readers so please keep spoilers hidden, even if it's to gawk at your best girl's butt
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https://pastebin.com/PStmwUc3

Vol 48 >>286920840
Vol 49 >>286942302
Vol 50 >>286977171
Vol 51 >>287002409
Vol 52 >>287027093
Vol 53 >>287051058
Vol 54 >>287075985
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>>287103610
Got here just in time
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>>287103610
>no erect nipples for once
dropped
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>>287103707
PREPARE FOR YOUR DEATH, POSEIDON!
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man, why even bother
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>>287103610
Jesus just bang already. Elder can't possibly be watching you everywhere right?
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>>287103610
Kenichi, Miu, and Kisara always look notably younger on cover art than they do in the actual chapter. Why is that?
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>>287103771
Kensei is so psycho that he'd happily take Ryuto back as a pupil despite him wanting to kill him.
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>>287103803
Salarymen are punctual
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>>287103819
Colour maybe?
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>>287103836
This page feels like it's out of place.
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>>287103803
Honestly I didn't remember their fight had a bunch of disciple fights as precursor.
I only remember rimi fighting miu while using the suicide move and ryuto standing up again, but I didn't remember the shinpaku alliance and yomi being there as well.
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>>287103707
Berserker got really invested into the fight. He looks like an Odin fanboy now.
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>>287104017
Little does she know she still has an audience, us!
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>>287103836
Is there a page missing here?
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>>287103610
This volume...
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>>287103882
>>287104118
I'm giving you all I got
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>>287103928
>Bitch please
>Checks scan
Yep, this is mangastream
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>>287103715
How's he able to talk with fingers in his teeth? Does he say "Hack hattack Hust how hick conhain kiwwing intan"?
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>hermit that now has master training is on equal foot with motherfucking Sieg
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>>287104112
Very based Sieg. Kick the edgelord's ass.
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>>287104087
Genuinely comical that Loki was ranked 4th
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>>287104080
Wasn't he always an Odin fanboy?
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>>287103707
>>287103735
>>287103771
>>287103803
Berserker really is just here to be a spectator, huh?
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>>287104118
No
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>>287104118
Not from what I could tell.
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>>287103771
Only just realised ogata isn't topless but is actually wearing some weird skintight turtleneck
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>>287103885
Oh yeah, china girl is still fighting
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>>287104184
What a good outlook Chikage-Chan!
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Seig feels like the strongest of the alliance (not counting Kenichi and Miu), it feels insane that he lost to Kenichi way back when
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>>287104211
Sieg also had a master though.
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>>287104282
Milk hag out of nowhere.
Are there any other Masters waiting in the wings that we should know about?
Miu's dad isn't lurking in a shadow anywhere, is he?
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>>287104282
>making a little girl cry
Total hag death.
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>>287104202
The Elder can speak two different things at the same time so I'm sure there's a technique for talking under these circumstances.
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>>287103715
This is somehow even more disappointing than I ever could have imagined
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Can't take this dumb goonbait manga seriously
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>>287104228
Jutsun Milarepa? Is that you?
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>>287104228
The only way for that Indian Master to get any page time
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>>287104324
>>287104337
So Kisara really just got her ass beat without gaining a single advantage whatsoever. She didn't even get a powerup.
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eehhm whatever happened to kisara master plan
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>>287103749
>we ball
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>>287104346
Of course the American has a drunk abusive dad. She probably got raped/sexually assaulted too.
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>>287104282
I fucking hate Yami now.
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>>287104306
Sieg is massively over specialised in his particular department so Kenichi figuring out an attack that can't be countered was basically it. Kenichi beating Tanimoto was to me the really unbelievable one because he was really well rounded and Kenichi somehow just managed to outslug him
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>Sieg is jobbing now.
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>>287104404
>>287104413
Fucking lmao based Sieg
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>>287104422
>Murder, rape, and WW3 I can forgive, but making a little girl cry is unforgivable.
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>>287104374
I mean not every fight is going to be a win for the heroes if they won every match this would be the end of Yomi
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>>287104337
>Introspection causes pain
Deep
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>>287104404
I want to say this joke doesn't work, since the first thing that you will see in this page is sieg losing
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>>287104465
Memeable.
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>>287104448
Oh boy, I'm so hyped up for this character that clearly won't job. Please ignore that he and Kenichi were roughly evenly matched several volumes ago and Kenichi just got tossed around like a pillow.
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>>287104282
Her corruption is finally complete, no eternal life aesthetic diet for her anymore.
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>>287104456
I didn't say she should've won. I said she didn't even get 1 hit in. Sieg just lost to Hermit yet he was able to still look good in defeat.
Kisara did nothing but get beat up
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>>287104490
They were not evenly matched at all. Kenichi got whooped and won on a technicality because Glasses kun almost killed him by accident.
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>>287104486
>He's now a master(jobber tier)
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>>287104404
>Signature look of superiority
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>>287104490
didn't kenichi nearly died in that fight?
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>>287104486
HE HAS "ARRIVED"?
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>>287104306
How Sieg fights now is completely different to how he fought then. When Kenichi fought him, his entire gimmick was nullifying the incoming attack, pretending that it worked, and then sucker punching them when they drop their guard. Now he not only nullifies the incoming attacks, but also counterattacks in the same motion, adding both his and his opponent's strength into the strike. Add onto that his generally improved physical abilities and he's an entirely different beast.
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>>287104477
The joke would've worked better if it was a page turner instead of a double page.
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>>287104510
>>287104524
Kenichi's blow was also lethal/finishing if he hadn't stopped short due to sparring rules. Glass' blow never would have connected had Kenichi not stopped.
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>>287104282
Hag deserve rape correction by everyone but elder now
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>>287103803
Fug. I just remembered the phone thing.
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>>287104465
He kneels!
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>>287104490
>were roughly evenly matched several volumes ago
The never were evenly matched, he was always intended to be a future Kenichi who advanced to almost mastery. Their sparring was a sham and had to be stopped by the Elder before he would accidentally murder him.
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It's weird. Rachel vs Renka was them half naked and full of fanservice, yet it didn't feel as hot as the typical Miu fight. Miu vs Rimi felt much sexier.
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>>287104498
I think the difference is that Seig is a fairly strong member of the SA, Tanimoto is probably one of the weaker Yomi members, Chikage is probably the second strongest undefeated member of Yomi at this point, and Kisara is a lower level member of SA and has been for some time this was a power level thing
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>>287104566
>>287104540
Kenichi won both the actual match AND moral victory.
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>>287104579
Wasn't nearly as hot blooded
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>>287104535
Seig would still do the counterattack as part of the nullification then.
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>>287104498
wheel>cat
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>>287103758
enjoy it then get annoyed later
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>>287104561
>>287104577
>absolutely none of them have even noticed
>>287104609
>Elder: lol, lmao, I'm too busy embezzling money to buy art to actually care about anything. Not my problem
I hate him more and more with every chapter
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>>287104579
Maybe it's because the Miu and Rimi fight had them going full throttle in trying to beat the shit out of each other?
Rachel vs Renka feels more like a strip show.
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>>287104579
The problem is that the fight had around half a chapter pages in total while Miu took half a volume of them flying around with the only thing stopping them from being naked was their swimsuit strands being magically glued to their chests.
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>>287104652
Important Miu angles
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>>287104404
Could you call the margin razor thin?
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>>287103945
>literally says my martial art is ineffective it's just a show
>>287104282
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>287104404
top lol
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What moronic goonbait
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>>287104561
It is nice that Ma makes dinner now.
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>>287104579
Because Miu and Rimi both have actual personalities which is more than can be said for Renka
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>>287104761
Just punch his glasses in
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>>287104772
Literally Kenichi, Miu, and Elder
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>>287104622
rip
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>>287104337
>The super powerful hag really remembers Kenichi
Hot and scary.
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>>287104796
I believe that's intentional
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>>287104822
>joke?
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>>287104772
Cute wife
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>>287104772
>Gi doesn't even cover her crotch
Did Tanaka really not notice the obvious seduction attempt to keep him in the dojo.
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>>287104772
Literally wife.
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>>287104883
Classic niggastream
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>>287104842
necessary panel?
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>>287104916
oh nooooooooooo
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>>287104916
Why is Berserker even surprised?
He doesn't know who the fuck that guy is.
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>>287104822
>not virgins
It's over
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>>287104822
THE TRAGEDY
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>>287104549
Weren't you threatening to kill Kenichi? Guess that was just more trolling
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>>287104952
How long was the author planning this twist? This guy has been a dorky recurring character since partway through the DoTD
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>>287104916
That ain't right.
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>>287104980
>How long was the author planning this twist?
Since Ogata's introduction. The specifics are less clear, but it's hinted at there already.
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>>287104980
Since he introduced Kensei at least considering the twist also involved that.
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>>287103778
Why is Miu invested in this?
>Boobs
ah
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>>287104987
>I let Ogata go and live in a forest after this btw, dropped Kenich off to see him too. Remember when we had him surrounded and didn't move to subdue him immediately?
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>>287105001
>Ogata is a progressive martial artist
At least he has this moral victory over Kenichi.
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>>287105025
I HATE EQUALITY NOW!
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>>287104980
Since about here, I guess
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>>287105036
Oh
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>>287105006
Certified woman moment
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>>287104972
He got into it during the fight and shaken when Kenichi told him off it when they had a talk later.
He could kill if things got heated but not a cold hearted murderer like the Yami guys, sorta wishy washy between killing and saving fists.
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>>287105025
Ken was right about women fighting
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>>287105036
There's the kicker.
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>>287105025
>>287105036
Maybe Kenichi is right with his belief that all women should stay in the kitchen
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>>287103885
>feeling herself as she fights
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>>287105051
Oh that makes sense why he has retired to that wood for a while
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>>287104822
So this is proof that the Elder would accept Kenichi even without fighting him. Or he'd snap and kill him.
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>>287105025
>made a miscalculation
Elder, you know he wouldn't have given a fuck.
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>>287104842
I can't take this death match seriously when every cut to Miu is full blatant sex
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>>287105083
He's a little busy Kenichi.
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>>287105056
I love how Japan can't figure out that middle ground exists. Heaven forbid theres a Fist of Sin where you kill the extra evil ducks with no remorse but give the less evil ones a chance to redeem themselves.
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>>287105084
Clearly he did give a fuck
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>>287105036
While it doesn't save Kensei from being an asshole, she did fight him to the death while pregnant and was strong enough to pose a challenge as a master.
I could even say that Kensei beating himself up over it is pointless because he was just taking on a challenge, ignoring the two murders that involved.
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This Ogata vs Takada fight really reminds me of Shin vs Kenshiro thematically
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>>287105006
Can't say Ogata is more to blame than the woman in this situation. He gave her two warnings and she still engaged in a death match probably knowing she was pregnant
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>>287105122
>I regret killing a fetus but not grooming children into suicidal death machines
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>>287105151
Hey, those children consented to it, blame the passion of youth
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>>287105151
Because the child consented.
The unborn did not.
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>>287105148
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He says it himself
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>>287105051
Is this supposed to imply that killing that woman wasn't a problem but draws the line at pregnancy?
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>>287105148
tbf, I wouldn't exactly expect a 16(?) year old girl to act all that rationally after watching her father get murdered in front of her, especially not one taught what is basically magic kung fu
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>>287105198
>In the future no more witnesses for my murder matches, who knows when another pregnant woman will try to kill me in revenge
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Yes achievable natty
But only forged by the fires of revenge
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>>287105179
Kenichi shut the fuck up
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>>287105243
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>>287105227
Yeah, Kensei is pro-life
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>>287105275
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So from what im getting
-the old man trained kensei and Tanaka's master.
-kensei was too much of an incel autist and decided to become a murderer.
>He fought Tanaka's master and killed him
-he adopted Tanaka's master techniques into his own which were both the elder teaching.
Is that right
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This is embarrassingly bad. Author should have just kept him a murdering crazy with no morals than pretend like he has a moral code that doesn't just justify him being snuffed from the world instantly.
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>>287105318
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>>287105317
>Damn he's a murderer with zero morals about teaching people how to kill and kill themselves but he loves martial arts so I guess he's a cool dude after all
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>>287105356
>He is the coolest guy.
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>>287105324
He was introduced as regretting having killed someone, so much so that his entire free time is spent making statues to atone and he openly wishes for someone strong enough to kill him.
That said, I think it would have been better if he had actually killed a child accidentally rather than a fetus because you can make an argument that he couldn't have known.
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>>287103945
>>287104005
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>>287104346
>>287104356
>>287104377
goddammit
things were getting really spicy

imagine the public sex battle
renka would've been to embarassed to fight and rachel would finish her off by pretending to trip and fall ass-first on to her face
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>>287105386
The bikini is regenerating.
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>>287105401
Maybe this was the author playing the long game.
Get Renka out of the picture by making her lesbians with Rachel.
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>>287105036
i cant take this seriously with shigure presenting me her womb in the same page.
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>>287105371
The people he trained don't have any more of a choice than that fetus did though. He manipulated them at young impressionable ages and set them on the path of death. If he refused to train anyone that wasn't at least expert tier or something I'd buy it, but his claimed morals and his actions do not line up.
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>>287105317
The coolest guy....
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>>287105356
>teaches how to kill people
>kills people
Oh no, he's so bad.
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>>287105447
yeah yeah die already you jobber
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>>287105371
If he wants to die so bad then maybe he should practice his self destruct DouSei himself and pave the path with his own death.
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>>287105386
>>287105397
Mogged again by ken-chan
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>>287104871
>Cut this fucking shit act already dude, you are pathetic.
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>>287105464
>Berserker: Why am I even here?
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>>287105459
>murderers who kill for the sake of killing are not bad
What level of edge are you on?
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>>287105492
Raction shots
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>>287105463
>maybe he should practice his self destruct DouSei himself
This is something that always stood up to me even when i was 14 reading this for the first time, i might be wrong but i don't remember kensei ever using the seidougotsu, its like he is having his disciples do it first so he doesn't fuck himself up first.
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>>287105434
The other part is that he's clearly insane with a completely skewed and alien moral code. If a kid earnestly tells him that he wants to train, he will tell them in no uncertain terms that they will probably die during the training, but still do it.
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>>287103885
chikage face is like
>wtf i'm even doing here when i could be eating swets?
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>>287104306
To be fair, he lost to Kenichi because he sat there and took an attack literally designed to counter his fighting style.
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>>287105544
Don't fucking jinx it Ken
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That's certainly a technique
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>>287105557
It's like Shin vs Kenshiro but it's one person instead of two
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>>287105557
Jesus Christ.
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>>287105575
GODOUCHADS...
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>>287105533
That's the problem though, just because someone has a fucked up moral code doesn't mean you just accept it and move on as part of their character. He thinks killing and being killed for his autistic hobby is fine and the main character in the series is like "Yeah sure that checks out. I guess I can't hold a grudge against him."
The author is sending the message that what he has done and plans to do is okay because he has a moral code he sticks to, even if the moral code is batshit insane.
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>>287105581
As a tribute to his wife and unborn child, he uses a technique perfectly suited to women and children.
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>>287105575
Mike Tyson ain't got shit on him.
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>>287105575
The Jack Hanma special!
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>>287104442
yes,i like chikage the rest can get fucked
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>>287105557
This never made sense to me, ok he trained his fingers to pierce flesh similar to hongo nukite but how is he able to pierce his own hand so effortlessly? Shouldn't both hands be hard as fuck?
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>>287105614
Based
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>>287105575
So that's Tanaka secret technique.
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>>287105614
Tanimoto.....
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>>287105621
is that even what's happening there?
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>>287104442
To be fair barring assassins and Bors master I dont think any of Yomi have tried murdering civilians
They mostly kill and steal from other martial artists
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>>287105557
That's a poke alright.
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>>287105586
Kijin gentosho had a similiar character.
Mc was glazing some serial killer, becahse of how autistically dedicated he was to the sword.
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>>287105655
To be unfair, they caused WW2, so it's not exactly a dealbreaker for them
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>>287105575
Fucking feral
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>>287105648
Yes? Kensei stopped his left hand and Tanaka pokes through his own hand.
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>>287105621
He could have just relaxed the back of his hand and put more force into the poke
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>>287105655
Ah yes, WW2, infamous for having zero non-martial artists deaths
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>>287105586
I think you're reading too deeply into this. All of these Yami people are screwed up and will screw up the world if unopposed. That said despite that Ogata is still charming in his personality and approach even though he's an awful person. Hell you see shit like this all the time irl though not quite to murder hobo levels
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>>287105557
>>287105575
>You don't have killing intent.
>5 seconds later.
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>>287105685
>>287105694
Well barring that but my brain kind of short circuts trying to acknowledge a bunch of autists who like fighting somehow caused WW2
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>>287105648
Tanaka got Ogata to counter one of his strikes by grabbing his arm, then used his free hand to pierce the captive hand.
He jabbed Ogata's eyes and got some blood in them.
How he pierced his own hand, my best guess is he's going around the bones.
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>>287105586
>The author is sending the message that what he has done and plans to do is okay because he has a moral code he sticks to, even if the moral code is batshit insane.
Do you really think that's a reasonable interpretation of this scene? He is obviously the bad guy.
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>>287105679
>Should we take this moment and build up to have the MC reject the villain's world view?
>Nah, let's have him like and respect him after it
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>>287105025
you say that as if you didn't chnage form killing peopel you think are bad to trying to put them in useless prisons lol
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>>287105694
They all knew jew jitsu anon.
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>>287105751
oof
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>>287105751
>>287105772
EXIT
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>>287105751
>getting the rabid dog off me
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>>287105751
sayonara, waste of time
you provided absolutely nothing to the story
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>>287105751
Just a flesh wound
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Oh.
I'm sure he's okay though
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>>287105772
I remember wondering what the fuck was the point of all this because it goes nowhere. I don't even think Ogata is relevant in the final arc at all
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>>287105575
Next time try a bullet in the head dou.
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>>287105718
Kind of wonder what they even did, given how their presence wasn't exactly required in our world. Did they put Hitler in power? Did they participate in the Night of the Long Knives? Did they help to further ruin Germany's economy? Spread antisemitic propaganda? Did they encourage Japan to do an invasion? Were they responsible for Pearl Harbor? What influence did they have on the Soviet Union?
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>>287105800
Did he use the Seidou gou?
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>>287105732
Did you miss the page where Kenichi flat out says "I can't hate him"? Or that Elder knew all of this happened and did nothing to stop any of this from happening because he's so autistic about his no kill rule-actually no, he's already proven he can lock up these people so they don't do any more harm to the world but he just let him roam free and spread his teachings.
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>>287105751
>*Crunch*
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>>287105820
this series just falls apart after ragnarok
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>>287105801
Tanaka is meant to parallel Kenichi and what he could become if he ever lost himself or more importantly Miu.
It would have been a stronger point if we had ever seen him closer to Tanaka if he thought Miu died at some point.
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>>287105751
>>287105772
>>287105800
crushed his head like a grape
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>>287105833
Kys
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>>287105772
F, i liked you salaryman
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>>287105836
man, imagine if they actually had a relationship besides being forced to live with each other
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>>287105800
>>287105772
>>287105751
I bet he also reported directly to the Head and was incredibly strong
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>>287105801
Had the series continued I bet Ogata would have been the final moral boss Kenichi fought, probably indirectly teaches Kenichi how to use both Dou and Sei at the same time safely, then self destructs from using Dou and Sei at the same time because of course he would effectively "win by losing" by passing on his teachings without Kenichi properly bringing him to justice. Then Kenichi says he wasn't such a bad guy after all and makes his daughter's middle name Ogata.
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I think the biggest problem with yami is that they are too important and influencial while also being way too autistic about martial arts.
Just killing for the sake of killing, they could have been some sort of underground organization that kills political leaders to justify the ww3 thing and how they have unlimited resources but they are all just insane murder hobos.
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>>287105879
In contrast ryozanpaku could have been bodyguards of important leaders to justify why yami hates then so much but they just hate them for not being murder hobos.
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>>287104859
How is it ringing?
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>>287105893
I wouldn't say going for the jugular like a rabid dog is that innovative of a technique.
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>>287105918
Is that a fucking building falling on them?
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>>287105772
>So, have you heard anything? Is Tanaka gonna be okay?
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>>287105937
This place is fucking EXPLODING, holy christ.
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>>287104916
I wonder if anyone was here for the week this chapter dropped. I remember the fanbase lost their shit. Easily the darkest twist in the series.
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And all you doubters wondered what he was still here for
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>>287105917
Who was phone?
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>>287105917
https://youtu.be/1FvsXj8CI7U?si=
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>>287105951
The Demolition Man
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>>287105951
It's kinda funny how everyone else is fucked up from their fights and on the brink of life and death while Berserker was just chilling.
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>>287105937
firefighters, police...
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>>287103928
>>287103945
>>287104005
I love Rachel and Renka for holding down the fan service.
>>287104324
Gotta go reboot my loli see ya.
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>>287105951
Oh yeah he's still here.
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>>287105275
man, why is Berseker even here anyway? He and Kenichi pretty much did not even fight. What was the author thinking?
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>>287105992
>naked sweater flip
holy BASED
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>>287105820
>Did you miss the page where Kenichi flat out says "I can't hate him"?
Anon, that is nothing uncommon in these types of stories. Having the main character say things like "I like Kotomine Kirei" does not mean the author or the story is endorsing the antagonists actions. I don't disagree that the author is sloppy with the Elder or the implications of the Katsujinken, but to interpret that like you have is just bizarre.
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I honestly hope Ogata doesn't ever return in Part 2 because with how hard the artist is jerking him off I can't see him ever getting even a tenth of the karmic justice he deserves.
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>>287105979
C'mon Matsui, this is your chance to look cool in front of the Valkyries!
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>>287105089
I fucking love the kazoe nukite, i hope Kenichi eventually learns it.
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>>287105951
He was just waiting for his moment.
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>>287106050
damn rip for real
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>>287106050
>Tanaka finally met his kid
Man.....
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>>287105992
some nice chinese new moon
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>>287104498
Sieg is just the strongest guy in the Alliance, at least on par with Takeda. Remember when he was going to solo the capoeira team before getting too tired from dodging fucking missiles?
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>>287106050
Oh fuck my heart
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>>287106102
>Kensei picked up Lugh
Huh. I figured he was more of a leave-him-where-he-lies kind of deal
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>>287105513
He does in the end.
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>>287106050
RIP salaryman
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>>287106102
>They burn the entire park
What the hell.
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>>287105801
I mean this is probably because the series got cut short, the author has been setting this up for absolutely ages
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>>287106102
>why does this happen every time we try to have fun on a day off
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>>287106122
>Are we the bad guys?
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>>287106133
Thats our boy.
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>>287106081
So this is still basically a win for Katsujinken right?
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>>287105243
>Look at the cooked scans
MANGASTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAM
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>>287106007
>Having the main character say things like "I like Kotomine Kirei" does not mean the author or the story is endorsing the antagonists actions.
I want you to stop and say that out loud. If it was some shitbag like Light Yagami, sure. But Kenichi is supposed to be a moralfag that wishes to protect the weak. Every step of his journey past the first 5 or so volumes has been to protect Miu or one of his friends. He is supposed to be the voice piece that speaks the moral of the story, the person the reader should aspire to be, and he just said Ogata's actions are not morally and ethically reprehensible. Ryozanpaku is not actively spending every moment of their lives hunting him down. Even if it isn't the author's intention, which I have no doubt that it is the author's intention with how this entire arc has played out, by having Kenchi say those words he sent a very clear message that can not be misconstrued.
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>>287106015
My self-sacrificial Maou-Sama!
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>>287106110
i want to smell this shigure
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>>287104916
>>287105025
>>287105036
Oh that's pretty sad.
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>>287106164
The thing is Kenichi also massively respects people who have extremely consistent codes because he has one himself. And Ogata was an extremely confusing man for him because he was struggling to reconcile the guy who helped him and had a lot to tell him about martial arts with the guy who murdered someone's family. That's why he couldn't bring himself to just wholeheartedly hope that Tanaka would just kill him
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>>287106145
>The moral of the volume is revenge is bad. Ogata did nothing wrong.
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>>287106102
>damn we really liked this place
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>>287106050
They're in a better place now.
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>>287106204
It's not that Ogata did nothing wrong but yes revenge is bad. Tanaka is now dead. What did he achieve?
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>>287106179
why the smile, only takeda won.
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>>287106227
>What did he achieve?
He met his kid.
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>>287106145
Shigure is too cute when she's surprised.
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>>287106168
>Akisame OWNED elder
Elderbros... how do we cope?
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The point of Tanaka is to contrast Kenichi, you retards. He is Kenichi's bad end, which is doubly fitting because Ogata's whole gimmick is being the flip side to Ryozanpaku.
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>>287106203
>The thing is Kenichi also massively respects people who have extremely consistent codes
My moral code is that all women over the age of 25 should be executed. Should Kenichi respect me? Of course not, that's retarded. Even for something as autistic as martial arts moral codes a line needs to be drawn or nothing anyone does ever matters.
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>>287106236
I want to say she's retarded now but honestly she was retarded before; at least she's quiet, I suppose?
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>>287105772
>This where he falls?
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>>287106227
So the moral the story is that revenge is good as long you kill your enemies and bad when you fail, i sorta agree
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>>287106265
>>287106267
Or I was wrong. Hey alright
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>>287106228
Takeda defeated Lugh, Miu defeated Rimi, Kenichi held off Berserker, Chikage didn't commit to a kill and Odin has basically abandoned Yomi. This is objectively a pretty big win for the SA overall even if Kisara, Ukita, Freya and Sieg lost.
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>>287106285
>Handholding
SLUT
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>>287106263
Except the moral code is "if someone is trying to kill me, I will kill them". Which is not as batshit.
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>>287106323
Oh boy final arc time.
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>>287106260
If Ogata stayed in his hut doing nothing but regretting his mistakes and Tanaka hunted him down, then sure, Tanaka's story arc would make more sense and have a fitting end. But no, Ogata is still a sack of shit spreading suffering.
Tanaka actively intervened in what was supposed to be a murder operation. A murder operation Ogata was supporting.
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>>287105036
>>287105051
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>>287106285
>>287106301
Kensei needs to pick a side. Is he evil or not?
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I think the author wanted to make kensei be really charismatic so that even though you don't agree with his ideals you can still understand where he is coming from, he didn't do a good job, kensei is too autistic like all the masters here.
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>>287106285
The fuck is she talking about, Rimi never redeemed herself or turned against the teachings. She was willing to murder Miu just a few days ago and is only not a part of Yomi because the guy she likes abandoned it.
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>>287106067
Is Odin out of Yomi?
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>>287106347
Except Tanaka chose the most self destructive path, he could have lent his strength to the masters and helped them on their hunt for Ogata or warned them of his whereabouts since he clearly knew about the attack on the park instead he insisted on attacking him alone himself and died
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>>287106323
“EVIL” IS ON THE MOVE
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>>287106367
the dude runs off insane retard logic
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>>287106327
I wasn't aware that the dad hunted Ogata down and forced him into a fight to the death in his own dojo while also setting the place ablaze.
Hongo is the character that will only kill if his opponent has killing intent, Ogata isn't.
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>>287106347
What does this have to do with what I said? I'm talking about Tanaka. Ogata being a piece of shit is not an issue. Tanaka's purpose in the story is. He couldn't defeat anyone. He couldn't protect anyone. He just succumbed to "darkness" and died.
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>>287105655
No, they hunt non martial artist. The trips of Kenichi going to see master fights were fights were Ryozanpaku were contracted to protect Yami's targets.
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I just wanna look at the women in this manga
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>>287106380
>and is only not a part of Yomi because the guy she likes abandoned it.
That's the point, if they aren't part of yami they don't really have a reason to fight, atleast from miu's perspective.
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>>287106367
idk i like him think he is less autistic than ryozanpaku masters lol,at least he is not trying to pretend to being virtuous
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>>287106386
I guess given that he just tried to defeat his own master and Ogata basically abandoned him. Berserker even flat out says he'll learn everything Odin didn't
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>>287106380
Yeah but she was never doing it for Yami, she was doing it for her love of Ryuuto.
And he's left Yami, so she has too.
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>>287106401
>I thought you'd like it
Akisame didn't deny it.
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>>287106398
Did Ogata force him to fight to the death? I thought it was a challenge.
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>>287106204
The moral is if you're gonna decide revenge is the way, don't half-ass it like Tanaka did
>i am devoted to killing you!
>except i am yearning to die so i can meet my wife and unborn child
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>>287106366
he just wants to martial arts and teach it to death. He's "evil" but he's not some inhuman monster
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>>287106367
It's not about charisma. It's about sincerity. I think that's what the author is going for. Kensei is about martial arts first and foremost, and any tragedy for the sake of martial arts is not a tragedy. A tragedy is something terrible that occurs outside martial arts. Of course, the problem is that to sane people, any tragedy is a tragedy and martial arts autism is not an excuse. Kensei is a zealot and that's what makes him a villain, but he is 100% honest, candid, and there's at least an attempt to damage control. If anyone tried to inflict the pain he's caused to himself, he would be all for it. He's the lawful evil to Jenazad's chaotic evil.
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>>287106462
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>>287106366
He is autistic.
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>>287106392
>he could have lent his strength to the masters and helped them on their hunt for Ogata
Please show me the pages where the Masters make it clear they are actively inventing effort into tracking him down, because after his spar with Kenichi they just went "welp, good luck". The Hokaido base is the only time in the series the Masters have proactively dealt with an issue, everything else has been reactive.
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>>287106455
>The eight shinning sin severing jobbers
Goodie more weapon bums.
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>>287106500
Is that Steven Seagal? The one even Elder had a hard time with?
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>>287106168
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>>287105751
>>287105772

What a retard
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>>287105801
Testing the good guys philosophy. The Elder clearly failed here.
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>>287106450
The dad is dead and was friends with Elder. I don't see any reason why he would be part of killing fist.
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>>287106102
What the fuck is this park made of to end up like this. Hell where are the fucking authorities... forget it they obviously bought the damn city considering is their enemies headquarters and where all their disciples were sent to.
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>>287106517
They can't be more lame that the 8 new fists Loki got for himself, right?
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>>287106265
It was quiet while it lasted.
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>>287105970
Funny, it kind of makes sense now Berserker being a white canvas as a character until now.
He is most likely the one who is going to become the next Kensei in the future.
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>>287106583
IIRC, the guy is one of the few non-weapon jobbers, right?
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>>287106563
From one of the pages from last week it sounded like the entire park was a setup to kill everyone from the start.
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>>287106543
This still is, in my opinion, the worst page in the entire manga. Not only is the hyped up super prison a joke, it also again kills the whole idea of defeating bad guys without killing them.
Thank God these two have good manners. What happens if an Elder tier master had no such moral boundaries and escaped while destroying the prison and killing everyone inside? It's stupid.
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>>287106451
Fucker got no patience, he could´ve waited to settle better in Master class, instead he was ready to just throw hands whenever.
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>>287106507
They were literally trying to find Ogata like the previous volume they wrecked his mansion and he scarpered. And they've already arrested Diego and Gaidar, plus Sakaki went after Hongou and Apachai after Agaard but they couldn't seal the deal. And none of this is taking into account when they helped shut down a Yomi ally during DoTD.

People here spend so much time complaining about the masters not doing anything that they don't pay attention to when they do.
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And that was out big encounter with Ogata!

Tune in tomorrow for the Shigure-chan Special~
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>>287106607
Yeah short blade dude is actually pretty skilled.
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>>287106624
Thanks OP
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>>287106595
dang it, what a cliffhanger
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>>287106164
Anon, from 7 to 10, how autistic are you?
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>>287106228
They lived against the killer fists so they won.
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>>287106265
>>287106285
honestly i like those two more than the main pairing
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>>287106560
“Evil” is on the move, for real this time
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>>287106607
He's probably Hongo-level.
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>>287106643
I'm sorry I actually read the story from a literary standpoint instead of just looking at Miu's tits.
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>>287106619
It's more like, what were they doing while their former disciple was roaming around killing masters?
Why didn't the Elder do anything when he KNEW Ogata was the one who Kenichi ran into in the mountains, when he KNEW Ogata had killed Tanaka's family?
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>>287106301
>>287106285
>>287106265
I like how Rimi just says random shit that goes against the mood and everyone ignores her
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>>287106595
ah, time for shigure to be gangraped and mindbroken by the weapons division
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oh wait this was the last arc huh?
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Which master should be the one to beat Ogata?
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>>287106721
and what a fucking disappointment
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Ryozanpaku aren't police. They can't do shit to any of these murder hobos unless they're caught red handed and even then they had to partner with some international agency like for Alex/Diego. It is one of the many limitations of the path they live on
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>>287106740
Kenichi will achieve a moral victory over him and Ogata will walk off into the sunset.
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>>287106740
Akisame's kinda got a rivalry going
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>>287106721
One more, Ken's opponent is the One Shadow's disciple, the eyepatch guy.
6 volumes left.
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>>287104916
This is depressing as fuck
How come no one was there for the salaryman? Surely he must have/had family and friends, they just let him be a schizo like that?
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>only 6 more volumes
Kenichi bros... it's going to end soon... at least the new chapters are coming out already
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>>287106740
Kenichi and Elder
People say Akisame but that's not enough. Kensei is diametrically opposed to the Elder himself, as teacher and student on opposite sides. Kensei is also the master with the highest potential. He's the only one constantly improving his technique. That also makes him a prime target for Kenichi to beat, however hard that is to imagine.
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If I was the one running the martial arts prison I'd probably do some weird fetish shit to get the superhumans as out of shape as possible.
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>>287106401
She's so sweet.
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So Kensei saved Rimi after all? Why was he acting like such an edgelord then?
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>>287106827
Elder knew the whole story and did nothing about it.
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>>287106263
>My moral code is that all women over the age of 25 should be executed. Should Kenichi respect me? Of course not, that's retarded.
Try it. Do you have the power to fullfil your moral code?
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>>287106455
What!?
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>>287106907
like i said he is very autistic
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>>287104521
>Seignature look of superiority
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>>287104688
Yes
Sieg has truly "arrived"
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>>287106500
Does this count as a megastructure?
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Who saved Rachel?
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>>287106683
Honestly there's actually a pretty good explanation - Ogata had apparently retired because of that incident. So the Elder probably thought he was done.
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>>287106907
He doesn't like his experiments being ruined. Saving her wasn't an altruistic act. He would have stopped Odin if he could.
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>>287107019
Me
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>>287106486
>Freezing
>Still in a skirt
Woman moment.
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>>287107059
>didn't notice a Grand Master running around the very town they live in collecting and training children for his experiments for roughly ten years
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I wonder how Goku, will all his fightfagness and with a power level adjusted to this series, would do in this verse
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>>287106522
>invnetory
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>>287105751
>>287105772
>>287105800
>>287106050
Holy shit F Tanaka he's with his family now.
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>nijima can see souls
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>>287107097
Seems like a stupid question. Saiyens get stronger every time they brush up against death and Kenichi dies three times a day so probably from average street fighter to Elder tier in a year.
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>>287105772
>nobody ever dies in this series
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>>287107060
Shes not his student anymore
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>>287107140
Shou died, Junzard died, now Tanaka died. I think this reputation came entirely from Apachai surviving Agaard.
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>>287106624
Thanks for the dump Magister. I think this is one of the fastest threads.
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>>287103749
>you're like, trying to kill me man
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>>287107127
I guess it'd be more interesting if Goku was a human in this verse, and not a Saiyan
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>>287107189
>I think this is one of the fastest threads.
The power of attempting to rip a dude's throat out with your teeth
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>>287107151
>>287078830 this is the moment he did it. Stops it and then goes on an autistic rant about how best to emotionally stunt the next child.
He stopped her Ki before Odin betrayed him. She was still a recoverable test subject at the time.
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>>287105949
>I wonder if anyone was here for the week this chapter dropped.
I was. Comment sections on the forums and mangastream blew up because everybody figured his family was just out of sight
Nobody thought Shun had the balls to go as far as he did with Tanaka's reveal
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>>287106678
Sure you did anon.
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>>287106624
thanks for the dump
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There's no way in hell Ogata has a satisfying end to his story arc is there?
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>>287107336
Blame the retarded editor.
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>>287105018
>DOUBLE KILL
>>287105036
TRIPLE KILL
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>>287107362
I meant when he inevitably returns in Kenichi 2, murders/cripples a new set of impressionable teenagers, and gets a slap on the wrist for everything he's done.
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>>287107362
Speaking of, we should start a game, trying to figure it out the exact chapter when the mangaka got the notification that the manga was going to be axed.
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>>287106829
Just be happy that it happened:)
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>>287107421
not much you can do. Big Lock is a joke, Ryozanpaku don't kill/cripple, and there's always teens looking to be murderhobos. The only real scenarios are dying to a 3rd party, one of his disciples killing him, or self-destructing himself though he's fine with all of it
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>>287106858
It's the right of a prisoner in a martial arts manga to either get jacked or stay jacked.
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>>287107434
Almost certainly right before this story arc considering he pulled everyone left in Yomi into the theme park arc and then shoehorned Ogata and Bezerker in on top of it. I really suspect Chikage's heart breaking was never supposed to happen in pretty much the course of a single chapter.
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>>287104377
>>287104356
>>287104346
See Renka basically kicked her ass even after Rachel unleashed her true power. Outside of fan service battles she's too strong to have around too often since the author seems allergic to female disciples fighting males unless its a one shot
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>>287107472
The best case scenario would be he dies passing on his legacy, only to be told in his last moments to go fuck himself all his research will die with him because he chose to cultivate the arts at the cost of the next generation rather than cultivating the next generation to push forward the arts.
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>>287107560
Actually, building on this, the best way this would happen would probably be via Berserker. Perfect the arts in the one student so autistic that they have no chance of ever being passed on and only realizes all his efforts will never be passed on in his final moments.
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>>287105810
They did the manchurian incident.
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>>287107659
but we already know he doesn't work like that. Putting all his eggs in one basket is something he'd never do
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>>287107421
Or he get's killed by another Fist, maybe Hongou since he doesn't like masters that abuse their disciples.
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>>287107677
Something something perfect test subject, final crystallization of efforts, razor edge of a breakthrough, eventually his ego catches up to him as he's at the finish line like a lot of mad scientists do in series.
>>287107717
I feel like the author would kill off Hongo right before the final showdown between Ogata and Kenichi or whoever if it came to that. Maybe pulls a Ukita and breaks his pinky finger leading to his eventual loss.
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>>287106595
I want, or rather NEED, the Shigure-chan special.
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>>287106050
To this day, this panel still gets to me, at least Tanaka finally gave his wife and kid the park visit he promised them, RIP
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>>287107486
Too long, there's over a year left publicationwise I think the finale would have been nearer in that case. I think at earliest it was when he had the Elder fight the Yomi weapon leader to give him a fight without actually having to write him into the finale, or the very first time we get a hint that theres 2 One Shadows
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>>287107855
What are you talking about? We get a full volume every day?
Jokes about timescale aside, a year's notice for one of their longest running series and an author they wants to join said new launch with a new series seems perfectly reasonable. I really doubt they whipped up and secured 50 new series and ended 50 series with only a few months of planning.
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>>287107284
Yep what a crazy week. It went beyond expectations and renewed my interest in the series back then. Back-to-back from the Jenazad arc, Kenichi was finally interesting again,
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>Revenge bad
Are there any series that have the balls to go "Nah, revenge good and look at everyone saved thanks for revenge."
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>>287108293
Redo of healer and lvl 9999 gacha isekai
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>>287108396
Wasn't Redo murderhobo revenge? I want clean kills, no hang guilt, just moving on once it's over with a clean conscious and a better world. Not revenge porn.
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>>287104337
No I don't, fucking hag
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>>287104337
This is all Elder's fault as well. All he had to do is fuck the hag but now hundreds are dead and a loli is suffering thanks to him.
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>>287106619
The spent like the first 20 volumes perpetually out of the house when Kenichi needed them and now they're pretty much at home 24/7. There should be only like two of them at home at a time while the rest are actively hunting Yami down.
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>>287106050
>Something feel familiar...
What the fuck does Maou mean by that?
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Remember children, it's better for the grief-stricken to be put down than it is for criminals to face justice in a less than perfect form.
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>>287108659
>All he had to do is fuck the hag
He's working on it.
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>>287108874
The damage is done, the loli will never be able to unconsume plain tofu and rice she's been forced to eat for 10 years. Also I guess everyone murdered in the process of the loli and hag training won't come back to life or something either.
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>>287108293
Sengoku Youko to an extent.
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>revenge back
>when Hongo literally had his revenge against Jenazard
Tanaka's problem is that he didn't actually max out his martial arts, or decide whether to go for katsu or satsu.
You would think that he would at least beg Elder to teach him Seikuken before fighting Ogata.



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