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S2 when?
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>>287115447
Yesterday
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>>287115447
Lichard would NEVER approve of this
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Fate ruined Prelati's google results
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>>287115943
lol, you’re actually right
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SEXO
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>>287115943
This is funny to me. What would the real Prelati think?
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>>287115943
>third result is pixiv, where there's porn
Lmao
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>>287115447
Ayaka if she was american
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>>287116232
>HGW in USA
>big letters FAT in the sky
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>>287116200
>man I'm glad I kept myself alive long enough to see me portrayed as a cute girl
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This anime reminded me I actually like TM again
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what boards would waver frequent?
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>>287116953
It's been discussed.

/x/
/v/
/new/
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>>287116953
/lgbt/
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>People forget that the story is about an ongoing death match
>People actually get mad because their special snowflake fuckboy prodigy didn't know how to do basic reinforcement to tank a bullet.
Guess what's gonna fucking happen if you start shit in America of all places, retards.
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>>287115943
Confused and upset at his legacy more than anything cause my homeboy was setup by those who wanted his wealth and land.
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This was as shit as I expected it to be. After the Kerryspawn reveal I now fully expect Flat to be revealed as a super dead apostle that was awakened after dying and for Aya to actually be ORT's left testicle.
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>>287118369
you're wrong about everything including the kerryspawn part, impressive
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>>287118369
>Kerryspawn reveal
He's not Kerry's son, what are you smoking?
>I now fully expect Flat to be revealed as a super dead apostle that was awakened after dying
Nope. Kind of the opposite, arguably.
>and for Aya to actually be ORT's left testicle.
Sadly it's something much lamer than that.
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>>287118496
>Kerry found Maya on the battlefield when she was young
>They were definitely having sex
>"Francesca told me my mother assisted a mercenary in a HGW and died in it"
It'd be more far fetched if he hasn't her son.
Also I refuse to believe Flat-the-writer's-pet is staying dead and there's definitely reason for the vamp lord to be celebrating.
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I MISS GILGAMESH
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>>287118651
Maya’s backstory in Zero includes her having a rape baby which was stolen from her, you ignorant tertiary
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>>287118651
He's Maya's son, but not Kerry's. She had a child from a soldier that raped her before Kiritsugu found her. Sigma is that child.
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>>287118651
Sigma explained it in the anime itself, he and his squadmates were labrat child soldiers taken straight out of their mothers hands at birth by the regime. By the time Kerry found Maya she had already lost custody of her rape baby.

Regarding Flat, I'm not commenting on the fate of the character. All I said is that what's coming out is most certainly not a vampire. Have you read The Shadow out of Time? That should give you more of a hint if you don't want to get straight up spoiled.
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>>287118651
Now I'm reminded of the whole Kiritsugu/Maya relationship being one of the most stupid plot points in the novel as he's fucking her in the most emotionless way possible as a punishment and preparation for having to betray Iri.
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how is Ayaka related to the Japanese HGW?
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>>287118856
Read Fate/Prototype (non existent).
Fake Ayaka origins are tied to the fourth war as will be explained later.
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>>287118856
The answer is so fucking convoluted it's not even funny. It genuinely sounds like bad fanfiction if explained plainly, maybe because it is exactly that...
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>>287118908
Explain it plainly then. I've readied myself.
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>>287118908
Let's not exaggerate, it's not the worst. Ergo exists. They are competing at least.
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Can we get the backstory of Prelati and Touko?
Will there be something in Midnight Whispers?
The idea of Francesca genuinely afraid and in tears begging Aoko to help her does something to my dick.
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When does Ishtar get her shit kicked in?
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>>287118927
Alright if you're sure.

Firstly, Ayaka with black hair, the original, is based on the character from Fate prototype. In the timeline of Strange Fake, which happens to be a sequel of a gag manga called Himuten. Ayaka moved to Fuyuki and she had a role in the 5th Holy Grail War together with Ciel from Tsukihime. Already sounds convoluted? Brace yourself.

I'll keep it as short as possible.

Remember Kayneth from Zero? And how he made a giga magical fortress that Kerry blew up? Well the whole thing was powered by the greatest treasure of his family: a magic reactor made from an elf/ fairy's body split into three cores that gave essentially infinite mana. After the explosion, it was thought lost, but it was actually a local mage couple that stole it from the debris.

Now, have you heard about the Red Hood? It's an urban legend in Fuyuki that goes all the way back to Hollow Ataraxia. In short, it was real, and Red Hood is the fairy that that mages put back together and revived. Incidentally, the elf can grant wishes and people go crazy the longer they interact with her. I'm cutting a shit ton of stuff here.

Ayaka found out about this whole thing, and that the elf was being beaten and abused for reason, and then for SOME REASON, that is never explained, she decides the best course of action is to hypnotize a neighbor college girl who's a hyper loner and give her instructions to help the elf if she's in trouble (????)

Eventually the neighbor goes crazy, because she can't reconcile her disdain with people with the image of Ayaka that can't leave her head, so she starts assuming she fell in love and became obsessed. Once the parent of the elf kill each other from going crazy, the neighbor invites the elf into her house but she goes crazy as well. Her solution? Ask the elf to take over her body and turn it into the shape of her obsession: Ayaka.

So Fake Ayaka is the fusion of the elf and the neighbor.


Tl;dr OG Ayaka is fucking retarded.
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Ayaka be like "oops teehee" :skullemoji:
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>>287119355
>Her solution? Ask the elf to take over her body and turn it into the shape of her obsession: Ayaka.
Did she die and Ayaka is just the elf? Or is it a genuine fusion like Vegito (Goku + Vegeta)?
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>>287118791
>gave away my Necronomicon halfway through "The Shadow Out of Time"
Huh, didn't expect it to come back to bite me later like this.
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>>287119025
I may not be particularly happy with Ergo as a character, but it's you who's exaggerating here. Ergo is pretty damn straightforward: a vessel made in collaboration by three different mages for their own purposes. The one annoying aspect is how hilariously coincidental the identity of the chosen body was.

But that's it, one annoying "please clap" coincidence, but Ayaka is like 5 of those combined.
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>>287119431
Give her a break, she has to take constant care of her genius super neet sister. They probably need some prince to enter their lives to be happier.
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>>287119482
The writer never say anything about that
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>>287119482
Fake Ayaka identifies herself as the Red Hood once her memories come back (she was hypnotized by Philia into forgetting, that's how she knows her), but the flashback narrating the events suggest it's more of a fusion. It's not made crystal clear.
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>>287118651
I think you miss the entire damn point of why she had to give him up BEFORE she ever met Kiritsugu

All because you're blinded by some retarded shipping angle
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>>287119516
Scratch that, I actually confused it with the "Haunter in the Dark". If Flat is something like "those" then it's more retarded than I thought.
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>>287119355
It's not a fusion, she killed her and ate her. It's not both of them together fused into one, the fairy child just absorbed the neighbor because the neighbor told her to do it
Her identity isn't both of them, it's just Red Riding Hood
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>>287115447
Nice to see Ayaka's americanization is going well.
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But why did the nuns spread their legs
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>>287119579
I think you misunderstood it a bit, she has no reason to consider herself a killer if they're simply fused together. Upon regaining her memories Ayaka realizes she killed A-san, and sees herself as a murderer. This doesn't work literally at all if she IS A-san. Her entire story falls apart if you think she's just a fusion

The entire story is about how you think she's A-san still being chased by little red riding hood
But no, she's little red riding hood being chased by her own guilt over killing people
This doesn't work at all if she's secretly A San all along.
It ONLY works if she's just little red riding hood. She gained human morals after eating a human but that doesn't make it a fusion.
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>>287119656
If by Those you mean the Yith with their mind transfer then rest assured it's not them.

If you really must know, It's the concept that the dominant species of Earth periodically getting replaced and Humanity being just a link in the chain. Flat's little passenger is the scheduled replacement, which means it's time to clean up the old stuff.
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>>287119769
Love of Jesus and wanting to be loved by Jesus.
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So the big thing from season 1 was a crotch shot?
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>>287120159
i know, isnt it great?
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Don't care. My wife BB mogs all of these nuns with her superior leotard design.
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>>287120232
bullshit
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Which characters deserve a spinoff?
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>>287120159
yeah
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>>287120376
you posted them
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>>287120376
Luvia.
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>>287115943
Not the first one and sure as hell won't be the last one
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>>287120433
Fate is carried by Gilgamesh and the Church
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>>287120549
>An interpretation of Astolfo appears in the Japanese light novel, manga, and anime television series Fate/Apocrypha, and was later also featured in the video game Fate/Grand Order. His popularity as a character in the Fate franchise was deemed to surpass the popularity of the original in modern times. This phenomenon was also observed for other characters in the Fate franchise in a 2021 study, within which the authors named said phenomenon "The Astolfo Effect".[11]
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>>287120222
This one’s my favorite because her hair reminds me of 2B.
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I need Francesca crying and scared. It would be cute.
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>>287120222
It is, since it means we’ll be getting more in Season 2.
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>"So you see, we need another 10 billions to finish our project.."
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>>287120575
And the Church aren't even from Fate.
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>>287116953
/hm/
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>>287120752
When will she get a proper anime adaptation?
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i'm sorry but a1's reanimation of this just feels off to me

ufotable wiill never be beat
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Can't spell fate without fat
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>>287120822
Strange Fake has mogged every Ufo series anime as far as consistent quality goes
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>>287120859
>an imitation will never surpass the original
14 years later and it still feels more natural to me than A1's reanimation of the scenes
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>>287121003
>an imitation will never surpass the original
The one who said this proceded to get mogged by an imitation btw
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>>287120745
>Now it seems to me a guy with a gun was enough twice in a row here. Why can't I just give you $2000 so you can hire a few guys with guns and buy some ammo, take care of this whole thing in a day or two. Some people will probably volunteer for the chance to shoot FOREIGNER mages
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>>287120822
I understand it feeling wrong, and I still think Zero is pretty great visually, but come on. In terms of character design Ufotable's ayy lmao faces end up looking uncanny in comparisaon. Particularly with female characters.
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>>287121168
i can agree with you on this point
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>>287121003
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>>287121309
are all arab women like this
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>>287119879
I'll hold back on the spoiler and watch this kusoanime unveil it for me in real time, thanks.
Waver's best pupil actually being a squid would have been pretty funny though.
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>>287120575
>Fate is carried by Artoria and the other Servants
FTFY
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>>287116953
I remember this guy is a huge fan of videogames, to the point a few companies treat him as an actual game reviewer because the feedback letters he send to the companies of the games he like, with actual feedback and stuff, to the point they send him back beta tests, free games and exclusive promotional gifts.
For waver, videogames are serious business.
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Is the Fate series a good anime to watch if I wanted to steal ideas for an urban fantasy series?
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>>287121792
Yes
I'm stealing a lot of stuff from Fate for my autism comic.
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>>287121289
>Female Waver
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>>287121887
>Female Itachi
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>>287120808
After Nasu stops holding any kind of Tsukihime content hostage because he still can't release Red Garden.
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>>287120745
That explains everything. You need to be a actual retard to sponsor a "fake" Holy Grail War without expecting it to come back and bite you in the ass.
The constant of all HGW is that they're organized by someone that knows how to fuck every single player in the ass, and the players are usually a mixture of mages with their heads so far up their own ass that they think they can actually grift the grifter (they can't), a pawn in someone else 3d chess, and a fucking idiot that somehow ends up with a servant.
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Reminder that if you want to know about Mahoyo, the once in a lifetime collab is currently in FGO NA
>"So I'll learn a lot about Mahoyo"
Oh no Timmy, it turns out the event is actually something of a "10 years later class reunion" after story kinda thing, showing how everyone turned out, and kinda spoiling everything about the story.
Its definitely something someone who's already a fan might like.
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>>287121887
That's Maiya
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>>287122110
Are you retarded or something? Did you think a collab with a decade+ old game wouldn't spoil shit?
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>>287122110
really? Guess Nasu doesn't intend to make a sequel novel then
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>>287122144
When I say spoils things, I mean future stories as well.
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>>287122170
Nasu was never ever going to fucking make two more Mahoyo games (He can't even finish one Tsukihime game) so you really shouldn't be bothered or care.
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What was the reference to the Lion King for?
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>>287122377
God I want to suckle on Titoria's gigantic breasts and taste the sweetness of her breast milk
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>>287122377
It feels so out of place and weird for Rider or Gilgamesh to give a fuck about. Narita has his vices and they show hard sometimes

In his defense though, Nasu told him NOT to read Fate Zero to refresh his memory.
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>>287121887
thanks i cannot unsee it now
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>>287122377
Her path of "perfection and inhumanity" will eventually reach its natural result at Lion King, that's where her path will lead if its not stopped. Trying to make herself into a god, elevating herself, selecting the righteous, lacking human emotions, judging on pure neutrality, eventually she will see herself as a god, and she will end up like Lion King. Unless she gives up on her "kingship" ideals of being the ultimate inhuman robot

"The king is too perfect"
"The king does not understand the hearts of men"
Yes, that's what she's trying to be, something cold and distant similar to an idol off in the distance for others to worship, something that is wholly and entirely perfect for others to aspire towards, but something they can never reach. An untouchable goddess, that's ultimately what her ideals are.
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>only got to hold her rape baby once before it was snatched away
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>>287115447
why is this so hot
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>>287122697
Artoria was always human, she just suppressed her emotions when ruling.
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>>287123033
You found enlightment, anon.
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>>287121321
no, lol (but I wish)
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>>287121321
I wish, most of the muslims women I have seen are ugly af.
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>>287115447
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>>287115943
improved*
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>>287115943
First time?
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>>287120745
Isn't Strange Fake in like 2006? The way Youtube looks is certainly the old-old UI with chrome buttons and shit. In that case, he'd be talking to Dubya
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>>287115466
she can't stop eating
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>>287121321
Isn't she Persian?
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>>287124062
i had probably meant to say muslim instead of arab, but that was the first word that came to mind
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there are no ayys in area 52 btw
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>>287115943
kek
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>>287123554
And the Lion King is defeated by reminding her of her humanity when returning Excalibur to her.
The point is that is left to her own devices, Artoria will just keep going down that path no matter how much it makes her personally suffer.
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>>287124127
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the king...
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>>287115943
Nice
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>>287123985
it's 2009
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>>287115943
Their own fault for not being famous enough.
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>>287124127
only a twig
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>>287124334
Okay but where's Obama then
>Mister Faldeus, let me be clear
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>>287124334
Also 4chan is canon there.
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>>287124225
Unless a Japanese ginger gives her a good dicking, of course.
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>>287124225
Nah, she needed to become immortal for that to happen. Lion King is something that can’t happen so long as she has someone like Bedivere at her side
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Sawano is a god
https://youtu.be/AXNNwIXHjGo?si=gg9I8nm_ZmjqR6kh
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>>287122697
Saber explicitly doesn't elevate herself. Remember, the entire point of Saber was that she placed herself below the needs of her people.

Neutrality is unironically a good thing for governments to have. The government should not get to decide unilaterally who deserves more favor than others. The government should be completely neutral, treating all its citizens fairly and without bias, placing none above or below others. It is not the government's role to judge to worth of its citizens.
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>>287122697
That's just Gilgamesh and Iskandar deciding on their own what Saber's fate would be. They don't actually know her well enough to make that judgment. The reason Saber became the Lion King is because of Rhongomyniad's influence stripping away her humanity. At that point, she'd already lost sight of her ideals and became a cold pragmatist.

The Fate fandom has never really changed. Even all the way back when Fate/Zero first aired, people immediately took Iskandar's side. They just decided that Iskandar was correct and Saber was objectively wrong.
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>>287125072
It's funny how "Do not repost" is always written in English on these fanarts, as if they don't really have to worry about Japanese users. I guess English speakers are the only ones who constantly repost fanart.
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>>287124545
>My husband
Absolutely no way it’s 4chan.
It’s an English-language 2channel; yes there’s a difference between that and 4chan.
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>>287120433
Viola my beloved.
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>>287125382
More like there’s a lot more English speakers than Japanese.
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>>287125592
Cope
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>>287125382
I repost what's good and hope people learn of the artists. Of course, I don't leave any watermarks on my own art either.
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>>287125351
Her Camelot was a shithole.
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>>287125680
Camelot specifically was the only place in her Britain that wasn't a shithole and she's the one who was responsible for its forming
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>>287125612
She's my favorite too.
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>>287116472
>Everyone is having fun on the pool
>Meanwhile CHADilot and Alcides are aura farming in the background
Wouldn't expect less from my heroes.
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>>287125351
maybe gil saw it with clairvoyance and had a sensible chuckle
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>>287125749
I like that even his render has that underlying aggressiveness
Why are his eyes black btw
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>>287115447
If I would win the HGW I would wish for all the Fate girls to turn into fatties.
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>>287115447
I've had AVALONIAN stuck in my head all fucking day

in my dreams i catch your eye
and its strange to see me this shy
i strum my guitar beside the sea
and i pray for your light to guide me
COULDNT BETRAY YOU IF I TRIED
DREAMT THAT I STAYED HERE BY YOUR SIDE
NOW WHEN I SEE THE SETTING SUN
I PICTURE YOU THERE IN AVALON
in this garden of disgrace
i can still remember the taste
they call me the lion, how i roar
so many have died by this sword
COULDNT BETRAY YOU IF I TRIED
DREAMT THAT I STAYED THERE BY YOUR SIDE
NOW WHEN I SEE THE SETTING SUN
I PICTURE YOU THERE IN AVALON

I'LL DIE DEFENDING YOUR GLORY
YOUR CHIVALRY'S NOT A STORY
I'LL DIE DEFENDING YOUR GLORY
YOUR CHIVALRYS NOT A STORY
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>>287125351
If its Iskandar then his assessment was correct. Urobuchi was using him as an author's prop.
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>>287126881
Did anyone make a webm of Dick fighting against the heavy metal album cover skellies?
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>>287115447
>>287115466
The true American Holy Grail War...
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>>287116472
Yeah what’s up with the giant FAT?
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>>287116920
Such lewd hand holding between those perverts... Master/servant relations should be more professional.
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This is why I'm the better mage
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>>287115447
I doubted him but Sawano did an alright job on the soundtrack. A few miss tracks but they're mostly good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w_YQq3vDcU
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>>287126881
>the lyrics are Richard defending Artoria like the die-hard fanboy he is
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>>287128729
John WINGARD's cute main wife
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Prelati's plump ass and titties
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>>287122697
This warning or message rings kinda hollow after Takeuchi made Lord Logres, i.e. supah mega hyper seibah folded 1000x that never does anything wrong or becomes evil
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>>287129040
Lion King is the ultimate "answer" Saber's ideals will reach if they keep going infinitely with nothing holding them in check, she's the "bad ending" to her ideals just like Archer is to Shirou, a perfect version of their ideals if they adhere to them almost too much and it immediately makes you realize the flaws in such an ideal.

Lord Logres isn't saber at all; she's like a fused version of every "story of saber". A Saber who never stepped on the battlefield and ruled as a political ruler, a saber who ruled the battle fields as a god of war, etc. Many generations and many people's have come up with their own version of saber over the years, that's kinda what Logres exists as, a compilation version of each "version" of saber mixed together a bit. She's the idea that every generation will always have their own version of King Arthur.
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>>287115466
You could see Flat's death foreshadowed by the fact that he's been at war with the United States for 47 years and during that half a century he has been consistently two weeks away from developing nuclear weapons.
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Is Arthurian literature any good? Having been around Fate so long, I'm starting to get curious.
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When does the Redman show up?
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>>287130211

Le Morte d'Arthur is a fine read.
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>>287129040
Lord Logres is basically fanfiction.
Of course, she is perfect.
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Mindblowing finale
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>>287130230
In volume 10 when Gil needs to be killed off
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>>287115943
BASED
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If this continues Fate Zero canon how come gilgamesh got summon, or there are two gils on the timeline?
also what the fuck is kotonomine up too? playing ps3 games with gil waiting for the real grail to show up?
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>>287130985
retard
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>>287130985
FSF happens 5 years after 5 HGW.
The Gil in FZ is pretty much dead by that point, and a new Gil is summoned in the snowfield.
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>>287130985
Did you forget that Gilgamesh died in FSN?
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>>287120433
He got paid to do what he loves, draw sexy nuns spreading
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>>287130985
Gilgamesh did not survive the Fifth Holy Grail War. Kotomine NEVER survives 2004 in any timeline as far as can be told.
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>>287131035
>>287131024
the show never mentions FSN as it never happened so i got confused
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Which working environment would you go for?
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>>287131074
It did happen but it was blocked from being viewed.
So, Prelati and Gil can only see 4th HGW.
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>>287131074
Watch it again but slower?
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>>287131074
They did mention that the Fuyuki War happened, but I don't think they mentioned which one specifically.
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>>287131074
4th war happens, 1990
5th war happens, 2004
Fate/Strange war happens like 2010
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>>287131074
They note that it happened but absolutely nobody involved in Strange Fake except Rin knows exactly what went down.
It's clearly not any of the three routes but Narita has kept it vague. Rin references the Fate route once, and the backstory references a world very similar to HF, but no further details will ever appear.
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>>287120745
>implying someone like Trump, or literally any US president, wouldn't give up 10 billion to obtain a magical wish granting device that can change the world
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>>287130211
All better works than Nasu stuff
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>>287129463
>Iskandar said it so it must be true
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Nasu should write Marvel comics
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Haruri status?
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>>287131734
She's Ishtar's servant now
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>>287131269
Sex
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>>287131365
That's not a high bar
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>>287131134
Nuns are less dangerous.
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I caught up to vol 9.
What are people's expectations for Alter Ego Gilgamesh and the end of the series? He looks less fun/more boring than normal Gil, at first impressions.
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>>287115447
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>>287131734
Being my wife.
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>>287129463
>Lion King is the ultimate "answer" Saber's ideals will reach if they keep going infinitely with nothing holding them in check, she's the "bad ending" to her ideals just like Archer is to Shirou, a perfect version of their ideals if they adhere to them almost too much and it immediately makes you realize the flaws in such an ideal.
Why is it okay for characters like Solomon, Galahad and Buddha to be inhuman ideal machines but but not Saber? That's a big double-standard.
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>>287132177
These 3 never tried to fight against the system. NTA but Nasu has a clear bias. Solomon, unlike Saber, had no will so he did what he was ordained. His people suffered and Goetia was born from that suffering, so this DID turn out poorly for him after his reign. But again, Solomon was never perfect nor trying to fight against the system. He just went with the motions. Galahad didn't impose on anyone. He didnt decide anyone's way of life. He just fucked off. Buddha, likewise, does not impose. He just walks with those who suffer, and does nothing otherwise.

Artoria was trying to fight a dying system with an inhuman mindset (she is still human) and the world will always find a way to make you pay. It has many options. That might be a side-issue though. The fact is that Saber tried too hard.
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>>287132177
Solomon's whole deal was how he lacked free will and Romani was that, Solomon without God holding the rails who can empathize with people and guide them better than he could without free will. It's what allowed him to stop Goetia in the end.
And Galahad is called an airhead who is not actually helping several times. Sure, he's the ideal hero but you aren't meant to love him being a super autist.
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>>287132177
Because unlike them, Saber actually has people who don't want her to see her like that. Lancelot basically went insane because he realized that Saber was trying to become a machine that could only self-sacrifice. Half the reason that Mordred rebelled aside from her rage at her perceived rejection was because she subconsciously decided that if King Arthur's fate is to waste away trying to save a doomed kingdom, then she'd rather just destroy the kingdom, the root cause of Arthur's suffering.

The critical point that separates King Arthur from Solomon is that King Arthur was a human trying to become a machine, while Solomon was a machine from birth. While Solomon's situation was sad, he was simply working as intended. Saber was forcibly turning herself into something she wasn't and this is what caused things to go badly. The Knights of the Round Table loved their king more than they loved the kingdom. Solomon had few people who genuinely loved him as an individual enough to despair at his inhuman nature. His dad was a deadbeat. It IS implied that Sheba had a thing for him, though, but it's questionable just how far their relationship went.
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>>287132261
Basically, it's still possible to save Saber without relying on something like the Holy Grail. In fact, the key to saving her was to get her to stop chasing after it. The only way to make Solomon human is via a miracle wish. You need a literal deus ex machina in order for Solomon to stop being a machine. If there's one issue with Saber, it's that there was no one in her era who was truly capable of understanding her, so no one could actually save her.
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>>287132339
This isnt true. Kay fully understood her, but Saber was too stubborn. Her entire ordeal is that she's a human trying to be something she isn't and that never goes well. It took failure upon failure for her to finally give up. Shirou too, of course.
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>>287132339
>Girl who wants to do good and is incredibly stubborn in her commitment t it so much so that she will sacrifice her happiness for it
I would say it wasn't that hard to get a read on her but her knights are all idiots and half of them are Morgan spawns so it makes sense.
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>>287132350
Kay couldn't do it. In fact, he never actually tried. He just kind of accepted the status quo while grumbling internally at the situation, never directly trying to do anything to solve the issue. Furthermore, he didn't actually understand just how bad the situation in Britain really was, so he he never understood the full reason she was so driven.
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>>287132554
Off with thine head.
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>>287132261
>Lancelot basically went insane because he realized that Saber was trying to become a machine that could only self-
Read the novel

He went insane because she refused to punish him so he could never atone or be forgiven
Because she never once understood him, because she idealized him too much
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>>287132261
Solomon has people that cared about him, yes David cared about him, Goetia, sheba, his 700 wives and children probably
He wasn't a machine, he just didn't know he was allowed to choose for himself until someone actually asked him
He had humanity deep down, otherwise he could have never chosen to be human, he just never thought about using it before
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>>287132656
David never really tried to be a father. The first time David actually acted like a dad was in his interlude. In life, he was a deadbeat.
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>>287132339
I think you're overestimating Solomon's situation too much
The fact he could even contemplate Marisberry asking him if he wanted to be human is because he had enough humanity to be curious about it in the first place, even if it's something of a whim. He couldn't have that feeling if he was ever a perfect machine
Also his final NP, Ars Nova, is specifically based upon his only action he ever made as a human when he gave up omnipotence saying a humans power was enough
He was originally meant to be much more divine, but ultimately he chose to be slightly imperfect in the end, this was his choice as a human according to his profile
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>>287132554
He's smiling :)
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>>287132642
You should read the novel
Or at least watch the Einzbern Consultation Room
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>Reddit seething at Alcides so hard they picked up the "Gil was about to defeat him" propaganda
kek, he's too based
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>>287132830
You're not supposed to be impressed by Alcides. His Valor is ranked D. He's a coward desperately running away from his past.
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>>287132846
What does that say about every servant that doesn't have Valor?
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>>287132852
It's only a factor when it's actually in your stat page. Kinda like how even though only Saber has Instinct in Fate/stay night, Archer and Lancer seemed to have some degree of clairvoyance too for some reason. Practically everyone in Fate seems to have some degree of Spider Sense, yet for some reason only a few Servants actually have it on their profile.
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>>287131690
I forgot about the dog
Does it ever do anything?
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>>287132846
I'm not impressed by Alcides because he has plot armor
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>>287133012
Yeah, it gives Enkidu an emotional boost against Ishtar and comforts Tine
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FUHAHAHAHAHA
MONGRELS
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SBR when?
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>>287133252
Holy shit, that guy has the sharingan!
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I want a continuation of Capsule Servant.
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Why can vampires fight literal gods in the Nasuverse?
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>>287133382
This is an old man
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>>287133382
Idea Bloods are probably linked to the Crimson Moon in some way. Their Principles grant the Twenty-Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors authorities comparable to that of gods.
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>>287132949
Perfect.
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>>287131134
If nuns, why sexy?
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>>287133382
Vampires are the result of an overgod descending from the moon and initiating a legacy of blood intended to grant itself absolute dominion over the earth. Though that overgod was defeated through a great amount of effort and fortune, its curse lingers well past its death, and the powers of that curse is formidable indeed.
The Type-Moon could crush the likes of gods with a wave of his hand. Of course his children can grow strong enough to tussle with them.
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>>287131134
pencil skirts are my weakness
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>>287131734
They didn't post her "character profile" I'm mad
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