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What a crazy manipulative bitch. A real psycho.

Although it made me sympathetic for her somehow to the end I can't still feel nothing but disgust towards her. Seiichi and her husband didn't deserve any of her crazy bullshit.

she reminds me so much of my grandma I felt sick sometimes, especialy towards the end
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>>287169015
The husband was a bit of a lost cause though, he couldn’t see what was in front of him even after she admitted to murder and talked shit about Seichi in court. He was a spineless beta
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>>287169437
Well I agree with you but it wasn't his fault that Seiko was a manipulative bitch since day 1. But yeah he could done more before she and Seiichi went nuts. I mean he only wanted his family to be good and after all these years he still talked with Seiichi and so on. He was a good person but spineless as you say. Don't forget that he was on denial of what happened the whole time. He didn't wanted to believe it.
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>>287169015
Halfway through this manga, I was filled with hopelessness after I realized the desperation of the protagonists situation, as he is just a helpless kid and was being actively harmed by the only person in the world that a kid can rely on for anything. There was no hope for him from the start. Great series.
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>>287169786
>a manipulative bitch since day 1
Since the beginning of the manga sure, since the beginning of their relationship, no. It was very convenient for him that she was too depressed to say no to whatever he wanted, whether it was wageslaving so he could work on poetry or agreeing to marry him when he felt like becoming a normalfag. He allowed his family to walk all over her too. He failed to protect Seiichi from Seiko after years of failing her.
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>>287169015
>only forgot his mother when he became a senile old man
Not many series have filled me with a greater sense of melancholy
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>>287169015
Why didn't he just fuck her?
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>>287170216
Yeah, like you said, he always was a spineless man who lost persuading his dream just like Seiko (he wanted to be a poet, she wanted to be an actress). He went to the safest option when he realized that he failed.
>He allowed his family walk all over her too
Yeah, his sister is your typical annoying cunt. But at the very least she gave Seiko the benefit of the doubt. Then Seiko and Seiichi went nuts and everything and everyone went downhill. And even by that point Ichiro wanted to defend them with a lawyer. He was in denial the whole time. He fucked up yeah, but at least he tried to redeemed himself and I think he did it by the end. Although I would never allow my son to contact her crazy mother again. But you know, I think it's obvious Ichiro loved Seiko despite all.
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Felt too disjointed. First half was psuedo incest crazy hot mom and the second half after he gets jailed is just misery porn until the end.
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>>287169015
Her and the mc not having sex was such a copout.
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Itt: mommy issues
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>>287172367
Porn is way too bad for your health.



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