>>287171377Uhhhh
>>287171377New chapter when?
Current berserk fans kinda remind me of ASOIAF fans who still think their series is getting finished and that there was ever a specific plan in place
>>287171816Miura told koji how he wanted it to be ended though.
>>287171705What?
What's the status on Berserk? Only watched the 1997 anime, is there a sequel?
>>287171975>Japanese can't lie
>>287172092There are three movies from 2012-2013. They’re alright, but janky because of the CGI in them.There’s a 2016 anime which is complete fucking chink dogshit. I don’t recommend it, even if you love berserk. Looks like a fucking nintendo 3ds game.We are still waiting for chapter 384 of the manga. I recommend reading the manga if you liked 1997 at all. I’d say that it’ll hopefully take 25 years until the manga is close to being finished.
>>287172106they cant
>>287172413Should I start from the beginning or where the movie ends?
>>287171377Did nothing wrong
>>287172469start from the beginning, the manga is soo vastly superior its not even funny. Anons hate on the attempts to put it on the screen but they're okay, but the manga reigns supreme and always will.
>>287172490Explain further
>>287171377Imu before Oda's editors said make him brown
>>287171377That's Ryo Asuka but gay
>>287172964That’s Griffith but not gay.
I started the manga and I’m on volume 7. Does it get better?
>>287173216who is your favorite character
>>287173297Guts.
>>287171377shiiet… he dindu nuffin wronn
>>287171377Just let it go
>>287171377So what happened to the plan to hasten the chapter releases?
>>287171975Headcanon.
>>287174393Miura kinda looks like guts
>>287171975No one is capable of realizing Miura's vision but Miura himself. Not just in terms of art, people change every day, and living even one day longer could have led to a drastic change in the story entirely.
>>287171816ASOIAF will get finished when grrm dies and his family gives the IP to a better writer
>>287175962that's a little stupid, then Miura himself couldn't write his own vision because it's always changing and what's set is not what he envisions at any point in time
>>287172490Everything wrong that happened is entirely on him, no one forced him to rape the princess
>>287172964Griffith isn't gay and you're a redditor if you think otherwise
>>287176113>Because I realized I want you, Guts>Are you a homo?>Griffith chuckles, doesn't answer>Says I want you a second time>Thinks about Guts while having sex, can only cum thinking about him saying goodbye, holds himself and cries after he realizes he won't ever see him again afterward>Stares at Guts while he fucks his girl literally just to make him jealous>Not gay
>>287176113Taking cocks up the ass is gay no matter how you spin it.
>>287171377is that Taylor Swift
>>287176047I used the word "could" for a reason. Let's say Miura had a "close call" instead of dying. Do you think it possible that an event like that could completely change his perspective on life and thus his story? The point I was making it, if Miura was alive today, how he portrays that story is a fluid thing. His """bestest bestest super giga best friend forever""" Koji getting the cliffnotes version of the story is NOT a valid replacement for Miura. Thus I call it what it is, fanfiction.
>>287176290He literally had a mental breakdown after it>>287176281he found solace in guts because he thought of someone else as an equal for the first time in his life. Their relationship is entirely platonic
>>287176353If I have a mental breakdown after eating a human I'm still a cannibal.
>>287176370If you want to puke after drinking alcohol it means you don't like alcohol
>>287176353Having sex with an old man for money is totally different than the prospect of having sex with a ripped hunk your age you admittedly want to share the rest of your life withWhy do you think Griffith wanted to ruin Guts and Casca's relationship? Throughout the retrieval arc he's seeing empathizing heavily with Casca and how much she loves Guts. He can relate to how desperately she doesn't want him to leave. What broke his heart is that Guts could bring himself to return for Casca, but not for him.
>>287176353>He literally had a mental breakdown after itonly because it wasn't Gutsu
>>287176424
>>287176353he's probably just bisexual>>287176424i bet at least half of /a/ would react the same way to being ntr'd
>>287176424Griffith is obviously not actually gay for guts. As >>287176353 said, he views him as a friend, and therefore, as an equal. You can tell that he obviously doesn’t view anybody else as equals, which is why Guts is so important to him. When he loses him, he is in a complete state of misery and powerlessness, which is why he rapes the princess. It’s an impulse he has and acts upon to crave his feeling for having power again. That’s why Griffith thinks about Guts when he’s fucking the princess. He’s thinking about his loss of power, and how he has power in that current moment as a defense to the loss of power from losing Guts.
>>287176444headcanon>>287176474he's more likely asexual
>>287171377The artist formerly known as Prince?
>>287176564Anon, no. The use of possessive language is intentional. Guts questioning "are you homo?" outloud is intentional.
>>287176578>headcanonyou've never had the ick?
>>287172413>I’d say that it’ll hopefully take 25 years until the mangaFuck you?
>it's one of those threads againdon't make me tap the sign
Am I retarded? Was this blood or cum? How would blood show that she got fucked?
>>287176755break hymen = blood
>>287176755men bleed from their penis holes when they cum for the first time because the dyckmen breaks. Don't you know anything you fucking retard?
>>287176755https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymen#Cultural_and_religious_significanceHoly shit anon you're such a turbovirgin
>>287176669Guts had a friendGriffith had a crush
>>287176353the fact that retards are even debating this, lol. lmao even
>>287176113He literally took a dick up the ass
>>287176642He was mad because he was losing control, this is why he rapes the princess. To gain it back
>>287176856I’ve fucked like 5 girls and none of them have ever bled.
>>287177009All of them were already used up
>>287177031Kill yourself.
>>287176949Read nigga, READ.
>>287176967
>>287177053he's NOT gay!
a real straight man would say nothing here, just like griffith
>>287172964But Ryo is gay as fucks too, he has tits and has divided to become a literal female devilman before merging again.
You don't have to make edits when this type of shit is in the manga
they're so cute
>>287176857>Griffith had a crushsource?
>>287177189>>287177148>>287177144>>287177116>>287177093>>287177031FUCKING STOP.
>>287177189If he was gay he would've gotten a boner here
>>287176351>Let's say Miura had a "close call" instead of dying. Do you think it possible that an event like that could completely change his perspective on life and thus his story?He already took too long to draw the manga. No single work should take longer than 15 years to complete, you change too much in such a long time. He didn't even want to write it anymore. Actually the stress from feeling compelled to finish his 70% complete magnum opus when he'd rather just draw whimsical lolis must've greatly contributed to his death.
this is a particularly heterosexual page
>>287176663What? Isn't ick when someone does something so cringe you stop liking them
>>287177239we don't know he didn't miura always censored griffith's genitals
Do you guys think that Berserk is one of the best pieces of modern fiction?
hey guts want to borrow my porn?
>>287177275guts would have noticed and made a comment about it
>>287177321Why would a non-gay notice that??
>>287177337https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_vision
>>287177302He wanted to give Guts some ideas.
>thread is about Griffith being gay
>>287177085Does Gurifufisu have a Down syndrome? This gif suggests it.
>guts I care so much about what you think about me purely as a military commander for no reason at all
>don't worry griffith it's cool, you can kill as many people as you want in the pursuit of your dream, who cares right?>surely this will not have ironic consequences
>>287177434>they smiled at eachother>GAYYYY!!!Do you realize how much of a retard you are?
>ugh I just can't cum in this 16 year old princess, I keep thinking about my best friend
>>287177479What is it with people's autistic obsession with blaming Guts for Griffith's decisions? Guts is like the quiet kid who never speaks but when he does it's awkward and he says a few technically wrong things but the other kids use it as an excuse to bully him and act like he's evil
>damn I fucking love sex with women
>>287177591it's not really guts's fault because guts is an idiotbut it's still true that guts influenced griffith towards the sacrifice
>>287177611Guts not submitting to Griffith doesn't mean he's an idiot.
>>287177661guts is an idiot for not understanding griffith's feelings and flipping between unconditional support and sudden abandonmentguts thought griffith genuinely was the emotionless mastermind he tried to look like, and when griffith tried to connect with guts he pushed him away
this isn't gay but I like this pagepossibly the first time he really goes... berserk
cute
>>287177712Guts isn't an "idiot" for not reciprocating or submitting to Griffith's unhinged possessive feelings or wanting to follow him forever just because he did once. Griffith didn't try to connect with him, every time Guts asked him a question about his feelings Griffith would just say no homo/"no reason" and expect him to move on. Blaming Griffith's actions on Guts is unironically victim blaming.
>>287177793again, it's not guts's fault that he didn't understand griffithbut fundamentally their falling out was caused by guts's insecurity and lack of emotional intelligence that made him think griffith didn't see him as an equal, while griffith obviously already did and kept trying to emotionally connect with guts in ways guts didn't know how to respond toguts simply didn't understand how important he was to griffith. If he did, things would have been a lot different
>>287177840>made him think griffith didn't see him as an equal, while griffith obviously already did I wonder why he would have been confused about that >>287176642
he turns into scarlett johansson here for some reason
>>287177869this is the opposite to how griffith had been acting with him for years though. This is just griffith at his most desperate trying to figure out any way to stop guts from leaving, but before that he was always treating guts as an equal and a friend
>I must prove I am not still in love with guts
>(lots of cope)
>>287177952You're gonna call Guts "stupid" for not cowtowing to Griffith's posessive demands but then use that as proof of his gay feelings for Guts? I thought that wasn't how he actually felt though? Clearly Griffith was conflicted. He wouldn't have said that in desperation if this wasn't a moment of truth for him. In truth, he did view Guts as his possession, in both a romantic sense and a useful sense.
griffin
>>287177930in his dreams he is married to Guts and wears a dress for some reason, what a silly dream
>>287177952>This is the premise their relationship is built on>"Not how he truly felt"
>>287178043griffith "wanting" guts is not really the same meaning as a claim of ownership, the word is just the samegriffith does desire guts physically and as a soldier, which doesn't contradict griffith seeing guts as an equal. When guts leaves griffith is not demonstrating that he sees guts as less than him, he's just grasping at the childish agreement they made years ago to try to get guts to stay>>287178102this was from before they were friends
>>287178123That was after their gay shower fight though. The golden age is not that long and both characters say on the day of Guts's departure that this is how things have always been between them at the deepest. This is the foundation of their relationship and it can't be forgotten by either of them, clearly, if this is still how they both feel. Also yeah, Griffith "wanting" Guts is indicative of both possession and romantic interest, those are not different things in Griffith's mind.Griffith while respecting Guts still views it as an affront to his authority that Guts wants to leave, one that he's justified in killing him for. This is not cognitive dissonance, but an unfair leader hitting on his employee and threatening him with violence when he wants to break contract after years of loyalty to the company.>I will decide the place where you will dieGriffith views Guts fully as an equal AFTER he leaves him which infuriates him. Guts proves he is an equal by beating him.
>>287178255>That was after their gay shower fight thoughimmediately after, and then there's like a 3 year time skipgriffith doesn't even see guts as an employee by the time guts wants to leave, griffith asks guts to do stuff for him and guts just wants griffith to give him ordersgriffith isn't killing guts for violating his authority, guts constantly chooses not to follow griffith's orders and griffith doesn't care at all, which is part of the reason casca hates him in the first place
>>287178329>immediately after, and then there's like a 3 year time skipSo?>griffith doesn't even see guts as an employee by the time guts wants to leave,Except when it comes to literally winning all his battles for him?>griffith asks guts to do stuff for him and guts just wants griffith to give him orders"It's Guts's fault that Griffith is the boss because Griffith said so">griffith isn't killing guts for violating his authority,Leaving Griffith is violating his authority, that's why Griffith uses his authority to try to stop him. Do you understand foreshadowing? I don't understand why people use the shower scene as proof of Griffith's gayness but not the conversation that takes place immediately after, the dark implications of Griffith viewing himself as the ultimate authority over Guts's life and death, which he pulls out once Guts wants to live autonomously again because he is romantically possessive. It's like you think just because a behavior is romantically charged in some way that it can't be malicious at the same time.>guts constantly chooses not to follow griffith's orders and griffith doesn't care at all, which is part of the reason casca hates him in the first placeBecause Griffith doesn't actually give a shit about the lives of his soldiers as much as he cares about the life of one singular soldier, Guts, at that point. Casca is concerned about the lives of the entire bonfire of people (she pointed this out in bonfire of dreams), which she thinks Guts puts in jeopardy every time he defies orders. This is all reflected in the arc's culmination and in the Eclipse.
>>287178056gats
>>287171377look i'll be honest i would have hit it
>>287178329Did you forget the assassination, and the staircase?
>>287176290He raped Casca and fucked the princess. Bi at worst
>>287178496Griffith is beyond gay and straight. Calling Griffith gay, or saying he has a romantic (sexual) interest in Guts, is laughable. The terms are just not applicable. He's almost a machine, an intentionally alien figure that doesn't have typical human relations.He certainly doesn't view Guts as a equal, but calling him gay is a gross over simplification. Griffith owns Guts like a sword. There are sexual overtones in all this, but that isn't the same as Griffith having a sexual interest in Guts.
>>287178883Isn't this what the kids call a 'cope'?
>>287178883>Griffith is beyond gay and straightI mean, you're right in a sense that Griffith's sexuality in-story is symbolic of an attitude of dominance and submission in all areas of life, but the fact is still that he is implied to be romantically obsessed with a man, wants to share his life with him etc., and is either robotic or platonic with women, and his greatest nightmare would be to live a romantic life with Casca absent of Guts. I guess you could make an argument that he's bisexual for Casca, but she's always in some sort of weird limbo when it comes to Griffith and he treats her like shit. But he doesn't treat Guts very well either... I don't think that just because someone who's gay is gay because of fucked up attitudes of equality, that means they aren't gay. Gay misogynists are still gay. Gay men obsessed with being/staying the "top" are still gay. And Griffith was only happy when he shared his life with Guts.
Would female Griffith have gone crazy too or does she kiss guts
>>287178883An apostle wrote this post.
Is it just me or does this cover make it look like Guts is riding a really long dildo?
>>287179127You’re gay, nigga!
>>287179127You just have dicks on the mind after reading an entire "griffith was totes gay yo" thread
>>287179103You can't prove that.>>287179066So, I'm right, but Griffith is still gay? You want him to be, is all.>Griffith was only happy when he shared his life with Guts.Maybe that's true, but again you oversimplify and jump to conclusions. And you phrase that in a particularly gay way, quite unnecessarily.
>>287179719>>287179127it's not like it's just griffith, every other panel is guts holding his too thick and rough sword at crotch level while puck sticks out his fairy ass
What is Void's goal? Can Femto kill the other godhand?
>>287179764>Maybe that's true, but again you oversimplifyIt's not an oversimplification, it's just not acting like being gay is some ideologically pure thing that no manipulative person can live up to. Griffith being gay isn't at odds with him viewing people as tools. That doesn't mean he's "beyond gay or straight."
>>287179813Miura died before answering those questions
>>287171377That's how Kentaro Miura saw Koji Mori
>>287179978>Griffith being gay isn't at odds with him viewing people as toolsIt's at odds with a good story. Guts is/was Griffiths sword, which has a meaning peculiar to the story. It isn't the same thing as viewing him as a tool, which is something someone might say of any manipulative person. Calling Griffith a "gay manipulator" or whatever reduces his character to something banal.
>>287180281Griffith was genuinely in love with Guts but he was too proud to admit it
>>287179085good ending
>>287176049You'd do the exact same thing in his situation regardless of if you brought it upon yourself or not
>>287180281You're being kind of pedantic. Griffith being gay doesn't detract from the story. It is literally just what we can infer from the story. You're coming up with a headcanon that goes against what's stated: that he WANTS Guts with a sexual implication, that he wants to share the rest of his life with Guts as his partner in crime, that he doesn't like seeing Guts with a female partner and doesn't like envisioning a future of himself with a female partner. How is that not gay besides that you don't want it to be?
Why didn't Griffith just turn himself into a girl who could have Guts babies
>>287179978>That doesn't mean he's "beyond gay or straight."He is that, beyond any argument of whether he has put it in his perception of his dream or not. Griffith was just torn between two things that are incompatible, the crown and Guts. I think calling him gay is just trying to determine a fictional character's completely omitted feelings. Everyone can be gay if you believe it hard enough. We only see how he loves Guts, not that he wants his booty. And that can be anything.>>287180360That's not what I got from what Griffith saw in his thoughts about the future. It's more of a humiliation than jealousy. He lost everything, Casca as a follower and Guts as the only real connection. >>287180554Petty hatred and bitterness. His last human feelings. Why would an inhuman omnipotent creature do anything? There's just no point, but hatred was still hot.
>>287180901>a fictional character's completely omitted feelings.Griffith's "recurring YEARNING" feelings for Guts are not omitted whatsoever. Everything I said in my previous post is literally on the page. I'm not assuming. Pages with proof of all my claims are all ITT: the initial attraction, the sense of romantic possessiveness, the wish to keep Guts as a life partner and hostility toward him being with anyone else, or being apart from him at all.Griffith doesn't outright think to himself or explain to Guts "I'm in love with him/you" because he himself doesn't recognize that what he's feeling is love. That's intentional. Griffith is confused, but the "reason" why Griffith puts his life on the line for Guts time and time again, and the reason he ultimately betrays him is clear. Griffith is the one in denial about his own feelings, not Guts.
>>287180360>You're being kind of pedanticThat's a predictable response when faced with a distinction one mislikes to make. >You're coming up with a headcanon that goes against what's statedYou're the one """infering""" shit. Aren't you the one calling what Griffith says in Hill of Swords "cope"? How do you account for him raping TWO (2) different women, all the while never raping Guts even though he could have easily? >with a sexual implicationSexual overtones. >wants to share the rest of his life with Guts as his partner in crimeHe wants wings. Don't you remember? Aside from that, see moonboy and Hill of Swords. How is the moonboy stuff gay?>that he doesn't like seeing Guts with a female partnerThis is so simplistic so as to be misleading. He doesn't like seeing Guts with Casca. It shows that Guts has supplanted Griffith as leader, he only then realizes the value of Casca for the first time through Guts, at the same time he realizes she is lost to him, and it shows that Guts was better than him in a certain human way. Aside from that, it of course shows that Guts is his own man now, that Griffith has lost control of him, and that Guts may indeed love someone else more than him. Casca is Guts' sword at this point, so he can't be Griffiths, and because that's the only way Griffith can relate to people, he's all alone when he most needs company. >doesn't like envisioning a future of himself with a female partnerHe dislikes it so much, he forsakes it for a future where he cracks skulls and frotts with Gatsu all day. He dislikes it so much, he rapes a female (again), attempts to purge himself of feelings for Guts, then incarnates himself as his and said female's child. That scene went way over your head, somehow, apparently. >>287180554Yeah, exactly.
>>287181075>the initial attraction, the sense of romantic possessiveness, the wish to keep Guts as a life partner and hostility toward him being with anyone else, or being apart from him at all.So? What are you saying by that? That it means Griffith is gay? That's not necessarily romantic attraction. To be gay you need to want dick in your butt. Honestly. But even if one of them was a girl and we knew they were fucking that still wouldn't be romantic love with 100% accuracy. >Griffith doesn't outright think to himself or explain to Guts "I'm in love with him/you" because he himself doesn't recognize that what he's feeling is love.Here you're coming from the assumption that this is the way author thinks. Perhaps because you expect it to be the same as romance manga. It's not though. You're talking about Griffith not understanding his feelings and framing it as him not understanding his feelings of romantic love. Griffith didn't even know he could have an equal. He had even worse understanding. >Griffith puts his life on the line for Guts time and time again, and the reason he ultimately betrays him is clearFeelings wise, Guts is all he's got, so it doesn't mean he's romantical when he goes out of his way for him.
>>287180302C.S Lewis quote. >>287181239Yeah, exactly.
is the PS2 Berserk game good?
>>287181195>>287181239>>287181270Imagine being this autistic, and reading a manga like Berserk and still thinking throwing your 'cute' retarded CS Lewis quotes in doesn't make you look like a giant retard
>>287181372Massive fucking fujoshit cope. You don't understand the manga. Everything you said is much more autistic. You have no idea. Someone who has enough emotional intelligence wouldn't say that Griffith is gay.
>>287181487Anon, if you're reading Berserk and you come out of it with some sort of Christian message you're an actual autist. You think Griffith isn't a fag in denial, which is blatantly obvious, because you are a retarded sheep under ideological possession.
>>287171975Doesn’t mean anything, Miura may have had a general idea of the ending but he didn’t know how to get there. If he had a concise plan, then we wouldn’t have spent so much time meandering on the boat or Mori and Gaga would release Chapters faster but they’re even slower.
>>287181518Dude you're so edgy. I'm not even the christian in here. I'm pretty much in line ideologically with what Berserk portrays. I have my own feelings and thoughts to go off of instead of AO3 brainrot. If you would do the same thing you could have some reading comprehension.
>>287181518>christainity out of nowhere
>>287181680I'm "edgy" for saying Berserk is obviously anti-Christian? You fucking reddit retard. I wasn't going off of my own thoughts, I was quoting the manga every time and you ignored it in order to huff your denial cope that Griffith was somehow attracted to Casca and/or Charlotte and not Guts. Griffith is a fag who took it up the ass and is the Antichrist. Griffith was not attracted to the women he raped. He had to either think about Guts or look at Guts to get it up and finish with these women. Deal with these facts.
>>287181709The only people who care about what CS Lewis has to say are larper reddit Christians, obviously why they're so in denial about homosexuality in Berserk.
>>287181743You're edgy because you pulled that out of your ass. You didn't quote manga, you put your fantasies on it. And now you're doing the same with the rapes, like Guts is there to make Griffith cum. That's completely retarded. Like if those scenes were showing something in terms of sexuality. He rapes two women and you think that makes him gay.
