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Effort, Talent or Persistence. Which is the most important thing in life?
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Persistence makes you lose your wife
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>>287181864
Money and luck
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big tits and ass in my face giving me effort and persistence
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>>287181864
Effort and luck.
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Connections (otherwise known as luck). Then comes talent and money in decreasing orders of significance.
In picrel you can see one person with infinite talent and one person with the luck to know a very good teacher, along with a decent level of persistence.

connections > talent > money >>>>>>>>> literally anything else lol > persistence > effort
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>>287181864
Try to find a way to cheat it>>>>>>>>Anything else
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>>287182072
how do you cheat at figure skating
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>>287181864
all of the above
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>>287182072
From Akagi and Ten we know cheating is a form of talent.
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>>287181864
pussy
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>>287181864
>Effort
>Persistence
Pretty much the same thing
And talent can be considered an aspect of luck
Effort = things within your control = your choices
Luck = things outside of your control = something the world's random generator chooses for you
Effort × luck = result
If at least one of these values is zero, then the entire result is zero
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>>287181864
Talent always
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>>287181864
they're all linked
you need persistence to wait for luck, and when you get lucky you need talent to take full advantage of it
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>>287182360
Having talent is getting lucky, in a way, but it's not the same thing.

You really can't rely on luck at all. Talent is the innate ability to correct easily one skill. However if you never find out what you're talented at or if you choose to never use it, you will never amount to anything.

As with talent, you could put a lot, lot of effort into something you're not talented at, you could become mediocre at best or take way longer than someone else to get good at it. By the moment being good should happen you could have dropped it already and moved on to something else, that you won't be good at either. Plain effort doesn't usually translate into victory unless there's something to stay for.

It would be great to see anime where someone puts effort into many different things and drops them like an ADHD riddled guy, becoming a failed jack-of-all-trades.
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>>287182552
Watch Golden Boy.
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>>287181864
Persistence is usually considered part of Effort.

>>287181902
Kek

>>287182176
Bat to the knee. Tonya Harding's ex did this to Nancy Kerrigan in the '90s.
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>>287181864
>be such a persistent no-life loser it gives you literal magic powers
>refuse to use them because you're a persistent no-life loser

Nikaido Hell Golf is a very unique story.
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>>287181864
connections and luck
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>>287181864
Talent.
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>>287181864
Roids.
roids will get you farther than anything
your heart will explode at 40 but you will punch a lot of holes in things for those 2 decades
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>>287181864
protection.
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>>287181864
Fun.
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>>287182959
That.... MOTOBE!?
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>>287181864
>Which is the most important thing in life?
how rich your parents are
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>>287182552
>You really can't rely on luck at all.
It's not so much about relying on it, but rather understanding that this is perhaps the main parameter that determines our success or failure. Every day of our lives is a gift; we live/survive simply because the world's random generator decided not to throw us some unpleasant surprise, like an enemy, a car accident, or cancer yet.
Luck/things outside of our control always shape the final outcome, effort may give us a chance, turn our 1% chance into 99% even, but ultimately, it's the world beyond us that makes the final verdict, whether to reward or humble.
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>>287181864
>Persistence
Perseverance
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>>287181864
getting born into riches
everything else is meaningless or at least inferior in comparison
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>>287184640
Weaving the laws of the universe anew > Token of human labor
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>>287181864
Networkiing
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>tfw you know you wont be able to make it
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>>287181864
Talent. Anyone who says otherwise is coping.
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>>287186922
The thing is that someone with talent can always work hard (and WILL have to work hard because the people at the top are all talent + effort) but someone without talent can't just conjure it out of nothingness
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>>287182176
Pump yourself full of drugs and bribe a bunch of people.
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>>287186967
The tragic thing is not even that, if we could just take a quick test that told us if we had talent or not i think most people would just deal with it decently but its not like that, someone with good instinct might have a good head start but not really talent while others might have difficulty learning new things but once they do they can perform above others. Its only by wasting years dedicated to something that you can start to feel the little intricacies of whether you have talent or not, and even then you can lie to yourself with cope trainings and even more wasted hours on harsher routines so that you can get a lucky win against an underachieving talented person, deluding yourself further that maybe your time will come, while time passes by and so does your potential for what you truly have talent for, until its too late, you have a life of 2nd-5th placements and nothing else to show but being a feeble memory on people's mind of being that strong-ish top8 runner that never quite made it.

Life is just a cruel lottery, first genetic, then a series of decision lotteries.
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>>287181864
Talent polished by effort with some luck thrown in generally.
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>>287187659
To be fair what you're talking about is only about 0.01% of people, the ones aiming to be the best of the best and dedicating their entire lives for it. Unreasonable people even. For most intents and purposes, the majority of people can achieve good enough results if they take the right steps, it's just that they might have other priorities and choices. Life is fickle.
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>>287181864
Having Fun
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>>287181864
>>>/r9k/



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