>>287187899
>wrote

I could name five just out of memory. Where did you even try looking before posting here?

>>287187899
boku no pico does this

>>287188058
MAL, but maybe that's a shitty place to start. Name them for me?

>>287188123
Try Google. In Japanese.

>>287187899
I'm sure there are hundreds of series like that

>homeless japan :O

>>287187899
Pico x CoCo x Chico

>>287188322
Just like every other time somebody complains that something isn't covered by manga.

You have to understand mangaka lead lives where they would be the victims of getting mugged by tokoyo kids if they dared step to close. This is modern social phenomenon not something they remember from high school

>>287187899
Stop reading shounenshit then.

>>287188187
Nvm forgot I asked, I've looked some of those up and they're pretty thematically barebones desu.

I was looking forward to more extremely tonally heavy, Oyasumi Ritsune-esque mangas about how and why our toyoko kid MCs got to situation they're in.

Thanks for help anyways.

>>287188453
How good is your Japanese?

Ore tachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai

>>287188453
tbvh oyasumi punpun is a uniquely "lightning in the bottle", depression-porn manga about how much japanese reality can suck for people who dont fit in.
idt there's any other seinen mangas out there that can appropriately capture the absolute dread and disturbingness that punpun did.
you adding a "toyoko kids" tag to it makes your search for the manga you're wanting to read near impossible, because idt such a manga even exists. maybe one day someone will make it though, the "toyoko kids" phenomenon is still rather new in japan.

>>287188605
I also don't really see how the tokyoko phenomenom is that different from just the generic runaways coming together for any sense of community. Stories about the disenfranchised and ostracized are plenty abundant and the flair of it happening in the 2025 world doesn't add that much.

>>287188453
Maybe it is barebones to you because there isn't much sympathy to be had for Toyoko Kids in Japan.

You probably look at them like how you look at fentanyl addicts in America, but in Japan, the common consensus is that those kids are STD-ridden losers who willingly chose to be degenerates because of internet popularity. Streaming culture and e-fame is usually what drives those people to be a Toyoko Kid, seldomly it's because of bad home situations.

Japanese people see them like how you probably see Clavicular or Kai Cenat and his followers. They are not really respected at all in society. The subject material wont be written with the respect you want (like in Oyasumi Punpun) by good mangakas.

>>287188829
Looking at the webms of Tokyoko kids, it really does all seem more like play and an alt-scene than actual group of people suffering. There's no doubt an amount of them who are there for the understandable reasons, but so many of them seem like they're just visiting hardship before they go home to mom, dad and conversation of if they had fun with their friends making tiktoks

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Have you tried this?

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>>287187899
First of all, it's a niche market. How are you going to pitch it to editors?
"Hey, you should pay me to give you a series on unemployed, maladjusted kids whose expectations about life deflates with each ticking second, we're going to make millions!"

Anyway, if that's your jam, I'm sure you'll find at least an arc dedicated to them in Ushijima the Loan Shark

>>287187899
It must be great to live in a city isted of shit ass country side and only thing you can do with your life is to drik alcohol and pray ther will be global war or pandemic agine.

>>287189019
Going by the numbers, there aren't any kids in the countryside anymore anyways

>>287189010
Manga lives of niches. Most smaller magazines don't aim for titles to become giant hits, they want things that appeal to their readers.
There's ten thousand manga currently ongoing. How many are you even aware of?

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>>287187899
That just sounds like a description of Rebel Without a Cause (1955)
If you can't find a manga about it, it's probably because they find this kind of story too old and cliche

>>287187899
it's not realistic to suffer in a tutorial mode high-trust first world country like Japan

>>287189083
It's nothing special, it started out as a community of runaway kids who would prostitute themselves and they live nihilistically so they just buy booze, nice clothes and act with reckless abandon since they've been outcast by society.

it's the same phenomenom as gutterpunk trustfund kids, bunch of spoiled brats want a taste of being an outcast while always having the safety net once it gets too extreme and those people have overtaken the suffering kids and turned them into even bigger outcasts.

>>287189083
That's why they ended up combining it with other genres because of how overdone it was.

>>287188453
>Oyasumi Ritsune
Oyasumi Punpun* dont know where that ritsune came from lol

>>287188472
日本語、ちょっとだけ

>>287188605
>>287188829
Yeah, I guess the manga I'm looking for probably doesn't exist. But it's interesting how Google and the wider Western internet depicts them as poor outcasted children, didnt know they are looked down upon in Japan for being cloutchasers.

>>287188915
>>287189010
Thanks, looks interesting, I'll check these out.

There's quite a bit. Granted not a lot of them are good and most of them are just trashy shit happens to trashy people and the whole thing is fucking shitty ass trash drama. (aka like the one where the alt girl finds this guy pushing her to sell her meds to him.) For "good", entertaining ones. You can try Youth Explosion and there's another manga I forgot but it's the one where it starts with the baseball chad bf kills his gf. I wouldn't say it's particularly rare and people saying shit like this >>287189083
>>287189010
are probably dumbshit fags but you know the market is like mostly all shounen and wish fullfillment but no it's okay we can go through le nostalgia bias over and over again. Even the greats making manga now have toned the fuck down.

>>287189246
>the wider Western internet depicts them as poor outcasted children, didnt know they are looked down upon in Japan for being cloutchasers.
granted they are also a nuisance, but they're a bunch of hurt kids with nowhere to go and coming together to cope with the pain so it's understandable they they act out. like all subcultures, it attracts vultures who are just there to use it for their own benefit. the era of streaming, internet clout and just attention seeking made them exploited and you get to put on a costume, have fun dancing and drinking downtown at 3am in your clean jireikei that you bought with donos instead of oji-san cum.

I was friends with some actual goth kids in highschool who hated what happened their identity with Hot Topic and when I'd go shopping with them we went to stores that forbade cameras and recording to prevent those types of people of intruding further. unless the real kids can somehow get away with excluding the tourists, it's just gonna die out as police move into the area and break up rabble

>I NEED generic homeless delinquent social concern story #523132146 the 523132145 other stories homeless delinquent social concern are not enough reeee
Why are leftoids like this...

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>>287187899
Katsuwo wrote that manga. But you didn't read it, so it got wrapped up after just 15 chapters

>>287187899
Rokunin Juujinka something

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There is, it's called Sutochiru

>>287189613
Good taste anon

>>287189658
>>287189613
oh, I remember reading a chapter of this. I moved on because the kids seemed too young

>>287187899
There are plenty of stories about bullying in manga.

You know what, though? If there's anything that the past fifteen years have taught us, it's that the people who have literally no friends among the normies have generally done it to themselves. Yes, there is going to be some gaggle of retards who are going to try to score points in their petty social games by finding arbitrary reasons to harass or even attack other kids. But being attacked by them doesn't make you a legitimate outcast; it actually just makes you a normal kid. If everyone in school hates you, the actual story is almost definitely that you love getting other kids in trouble, you're obnoxious, you're narcissistic, etc., and you weren't fortunate enough to be born as a hot chick who can get away with it, at least until you turn 30

>>287189386
Ah, so it started out genuine but got culturally appropriated by cloutchasers. Interesting..

>>287189613
>>287189658
This isn't what I was looking for at all. Looks too moe, MCs are too young, and tonally seems more like an SOL than anything. Thanks for the suggestion though.

>>287189466
>unnecessarily bringing politics into this
You're a trite little faggot, you know that?

>>287188322
Only korean manwhas talk about it

>>287189723
>they deserved it
lol, found the bully

>>287189723
>bullying manga
this shit always makes me chuckle. why are they so unneedlessly edgy? It's not even in a realistic 17-sai type way but it's like really stupid edgy revenge porn but it's embarassing to read due to how cornballs it gets (cough cough JnK). how do people actually eat this shit up?

>>287189723
I'm not looking for the bullying part specifically. But just the grittiness (I guess?) of a bunch of 14yo outcasts of living homeless in Kabukicho, prostituting oneself or selling (and using) drugs for money. I feel like a manga that explores themes like this to the same thematic depth that Oyasumi Punpun explores suicidal self-deprecation would be interesting for a manga series.

>>287189876
why didn't you reply to my post >:(
>>287189343

>>287189816
Yeah, Lookism comes to mind. They have a whole gang made up of runaways kids.

>>287189816
>>287190017
for the first few arcs they did it it was fine.
i think club was the starting of the end, lookism is so shit now and I have no idea why it still has a fanbase.
>we still don't know daniel's secret

>>287189723
fuck off normgroid

>>287190017
Asian and white boomer culture is just cancer with their own youth.
I also read that gangs appeared in Japan in the 80s as a way to rebel against the autism with studies.
Boomers obsession with college did a lot of damage to millennials, there is literally no need to force people to memorize so much filler in their prime
It's so fucking important to them they rather have their daughter begging for money in the streets to continue her studies over letting her marry some older guy with money

>>287190134
Retarded korean fans ruined lookism because they wanted jiho dead even though he was supposed to represent Daniels bad ending, now he barely has an arc and the author prefers Jake better

>>287189343
>>287189980
You didnt @(you) me so I guess I missed it, my bad anon. I'm busy checking out all the recommendations posted so far, I'll check out yours after. Thanks!

>>287190184
That was the biggest blunder I've ever seen in my fucking life. Jiho story was kino and him getting just easily get btfo by Daniel and then do a flip was the most retarded shit I've ever read. I actually forgot about it then you reminded me. fuck now I'm angry again.

>Wind Breaker controversy
Yeah Korean Manhwa is fucking DEAD now.

>>287190184
Lookism was ruined way father back then when Jiho died.

>>287189876
>just the grittiness (I guess?) of a bunch of 14yo outcasts of living homeless in Kabukicho, prostituting oneself or selling (and using) drugs for money
i dont think any publishers these days are willing to incorporate hyperrealistic & explicitly graphic depressing mangas about child prostitution in japan into their brand.

like >>287188605 said, punpun was pure lightning in a bottle in terms of the sheer narrative heaviness of its depressing themes being pushed onto the reader. publishers these days would rather keep selling nice isekai dreams, shounen power fantasies and moeslop than explore the harshness of reality like punpun did. maybe you should read more of inio asano's works, since most of them are equally as poignant as punpun.

Those don't look like kids

>>287189837
You didn't read past the second sentence. You talk like the people who deserve to be outcasts, though.

>>287189876
If you want to explore this, look at dysfunctional social circles and at the absolutely failure that is rehab. What happens is that they drag each other down into their worst tendencies, and this continues for as long as it's allowed, whether that's due to people running out of resources or just dying. Their relationships with each other aren't really what you would call friendship; it's full of backstabbing, exploitation, and excuses, which is what fucked them in the first place. They are the worst bullies. The story that I think that you want to tell isn't reality.

The ones that can be saved don't need to be wrapped in a warm blanket and coddled. Have you ever heard the saying "You need to hit rock bottom before you can turn things around"? There's a reason why this saying is most popular with people who've turned things around. The best thing that society can do for dysfunctional people is to expedite this process.

>>287187899
>runaways or those escaping bullying
I get runaways since the state fucks you over even if you have a shitty abusive family, but bullying? Lmao nigga just fight back

>>287190791
Wouldn't that get you kicked out of school or even arrested and ruin your life forever in Japan?

>>287190791
there is no Goku power-up IRL anon, you fight back and 5 people will put you in your place and make it worse for you.

also japanese bullying follows the whole ijime formula where you're exlucded, outcast and psychologically abused rather than being assaulted physically. as a bullied fag, a lot of what I went through was ijime now that i know the term and I would've much preferred being able to fight bullies physically. the ones who did try to do it physically and I fought back with we ended up on neutral or good terms.

>>287189613
>>287189658
That's just generic street children, not toyoko, glishita or the other famous spots.

>>287187899
>what is Yomawari Sensei

>>287190369
I've already read most of Asano's works though. But yeah, I guess you're not wrong in saying that most publishers these days would rather churn out slop for the masses, rather than use manga as an artform to deeply explore the modern human condition.

>>287190645
I can sort of agree with everything you said, just wish there's a manga out there that viscerally but maturely depicts it all, particularly (but not limited to) regarding Toyoko Kids.

>>287191126
>that most publishers these days would rather churn out slop for the masses,
How many publishers can you name?

>>287191116
Damn, that kinda looks like exactly what I've been looking for, thanks anon! But
>autobiography
Is it going to be self-fellating?

>>287187899
>>"Toyoko Kids" refers to marginalized youth, often runaways or those escaping bullying, who congregate around the Shinjuku Toho Building (the site of the Godzilla head) in Kabukicho, Tokyo. The name is a blend of "Toho" and "Yoko" (side/alley), representing a community for at-risk, outcasted/suicidal homeless teenagers in that area.
>he doesnt know
There are multiple manga and anime that take inspiration from there

>>287191250
Please consider that op can barely read Japanese but somehow thinks he's an expert on the manga industry.

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>>287189876
Did you try Mii-chan to Yamada-san?
Not about the Toyoko kids but about a brothel girl. A kind anon gave a short summary about the available chapters and it does seem like what you're looking for. It seems to be popular there as well.
It's only in Japanese. But since you said you can read it then you should give it a go.

>>287191184
Shueisha, Kodansha, Shogakukan, Hakusensha, Kodakawa, Futabasha, Gahousha, Akita Shoten, Houbunsha Bushiroad, Core Magazine, Square Enix (I think has a publisher line). Thats about it from the top of my head but I think it covers about 80% of most manga (yuri/yaoi aside)

>>287187899
Millennials are painfully unimaginative.

Manga Lover

>>287188123
>begging
>>>/r/ and >>>/wsr/ is that way

>>287191573
>I think has a publisher line
You can't even name their main magazines and manga app?
Have you ever heard of Bunkasha, Micro Magazine, KTC, LEED, Oozora, Shodensha, Shinshokan, Coamix, Takeshobo, Nihonbungeisha, Wani Magazine, Starts!, Earth Star Entertainment, Shinchosha, Mag Garden, Overlap, Tokuma Shoten, Gentosha, Alphapolis or Shufu to Seikatsusha?
>(yuri/yaoi aside)
There is no GL specific publisher for manga, it's all handled by either the regular ones or indie groups like Xfolio.

i can't even imagine how retarded someone would have to be to fail on tutorial autoplay mode (japanese)
much less being a japanese girl, if you fuck that up somehow you really deserve it

>>287190239
What happened with wind breaker?

>>287191198
I don't think it is, mostly since quite a few of the stories in it don't end well

>>287192036
Because kids believe in their parents, they are too innocent to see their parents don't care about their own well being but just being sabotaged or used to tell other boomers their kids went to the best college.
The reason punks started to appear is because they should have inherited their parents business, instead they were told to go to school for adults for 6 hours, we are not designed for that.
The girls are obviously told by 35 years old teachers and jealous mothers to not use their superior beauty to settle with a man with money

>>287187899
Don don donki. Donquijote!

>>287189723
You're sort of right but I would say most often an obnoxious kid is legit too autistic or retarded to realize how they come off and by the age they do realize (if they do) they're too warped from bad social interactions and isolation or just want nothing to do with people. Wouldn't really call it a fair self-fucking.

>>287192659
Got cancelled due to the tracing controversy. I mean on one hand, yo..... on the other hand I get it man. Manhwa publishers are more brutal than manga lol. Even Lookism CONSTANTLY traces over itself and that guy has a whole suite of artists.

>>287191551
mii chan is so retarded deserves everything that happens to her.

>>287193085
Isn't the anime getting a third season?

>>287193368
Wrong Windbreaker man....I'm talking about the good one.

>>287189658
wanted to post this,
OP is a retar d faggot

>>287189723
I fucking depends, some schools are hellholes that birth future blights to society others are nice places where the only way to be outcast is to deserve it.
There are lots of lives people lead in the world.

>>287192036
How can you say for sure that Japanese girls live the best lives when you dont even live in Japan to see it for yourself?

>>287193769
i have lived there, have you?

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>>287192036
It's tutorial mode if you're doing a standard playthrough. Difficult if you wanna do something different though.

>>287188390
Fair enough.