when did you realize part 8 is a masterpiece
the only bad parts are 3 and 6
the inexplicable urge to lewd Tooru…
It's all journey without a destination. Shame it was supposed to be a mystery story.
>>287190821When I fell off my bike and bumped my head really hard. I got better though.
>>2871908218 is mostly pretty good it's just the ending is a mess. Huge parts of the WoU fight are kino too, particularly the rain storm and Josuke's last meeting with Holly. It's really just how it all ends abruptly and contradicting the flash forward.
>>287190821Araki really fucked up when he made it so that riggers are antisocial and dont really have leader qualities, so its hard for someone like Tooru to be a stepup from Funny Valentine or something
>Sidelined Jobin for this ugly piece of shit.Nah dudeAraki will probably fuck over Howler and give the fucking final boss status to another johnny come lately loser with a horrible design too.
>>287192187Yeah.This was supposed to be the successor to Funny Valentine's legacy. What the fuck.
>>287190905Gayest fag opinion I read this year
it's a shame jojo fans are too retarded for someone to have written an essay on the jewish symbolism with rock humans
>>287190905april fools was yesterday
>>287190905Part 5 is the only bad one.
8 is the worst one, art does not save how shit it is
>>287190905>3 and 6aka 9but 8 is shit too
>>287190821it is aging like milk because jojo fans are learning to read
>>2871909051-6 are optional and skippable
>>287190821>>287190905
>>287190821Vol 4. One of my favorites besides Golden Wind.
>>287190821When I started to have a stroke just like Araki did when making jojolion
This is the objective ranking for the 20 most powerful characters in the series btw.
>>287195622>poco locoWhy? because he is lucky enough to not die? And happens to finish the race because everybody else is fighting for higher stakes and realizes the race is just an excuse to secure the holy corpse?
>>287195652If Poco was serious>Dio burst into flames from his fruitiness>Cars devolves back into primordial soup>Kira explodes from his own farts>Diavolo skips his own birth>Pucci never gets out of jail because he's black>Valentine never wins the election>Tooru gets Yasuho'd
>>287195652Pocoloco is so lucky that literal parallel universe involvement forced his victory on a technicality.
>>287195622Put Back GODS......
I still don't get how people rate 4,5,6 and 7,8,9 over 1,2,3
>>287190821it had a really strong start only to be wasted by Araki forgetting his own plot points and getting sidetracked
>>287195622>Oingo>Ringo>Gappy>Kira>RisottoAaaaaaand in the garbage it goes.
>>287195622Wtf ringo?? Any character that has an ability even a little bit stronger than a gun kills him easily. This is the type a list a jjk fan would make
>>287199323>BoingoHis predictions are absolute. And if his partners weren't comedic relief, the crusaders would've been wiped out without them even knowing an enemy was there to begin with. His major flaw is that he's just a child with no fighting capabilities of his own and he needs to rely on an accomplice and that their trust in his Stand is unwavering.>Ringo The ability to rewind time back to before an attack comes out (or in general) is insanely busted. He's mostly limited by his personal morals on wanting a fair fight, as well as needing his wristwatch as a psychological trigger.>GappyHis Stand is basically Killer Queen with Stray Cat's invisible detonating bubbles, with added movement and shielding utilities, and the ability to steal concepts like senses and friction on top of all that.>KiraSee: Gappy, but without all the extra features. Though BtD is a strong ability in its own right, it's useless in direct combat or if his opponent doesn't care about his identity, which is why he ranks lower than Gappy.>RisottoVery few Stand users could counter someone with complete invisibility and the ability to turn the iron in your blood into sharp objects.
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>>287200337>Boingo's just a child with no fighting capabilities>Ringo's mostly limited by needing his wristwatch as a psychological triggerTwo INSANE restrictions right there. If Ringo gets his arm chopped off, he jobs. If his opponent can tank or deflect bullets, he jobs. Against basically any opponent with their own time ability, he jobs. And Oingo needs a competent, powerful ally to win, which he seems extremely bad at finding.>His Stand is basically Killer Queen with Stray Cat's invisible detonating bubblesWhen have his bubbles literally ever been as strong as Stray Cat's?>the ability to stea-Plunder is dead, chuddie.>Gappy, but without all the extra featuresFirst of all, Killer Queen beats the FUCK out of S&W. Second of all, I was talking about Part 8 Kira, who also gets his ass kicked by Part 4 Kira.>Very few Stand users could counter someone with complete invisibility and the ability to turn the iron in your blood into sharp objectsIn Part 3 alone, Avdol, Joseph, possibly Iggy, DIO and Vanilla ice would tank it, Enya, maybe Arabia Fats, N'doul, Boingo, Mariah, Pet Shop, and Kenny G.
>>287192061>>287197692It was always mid. It has some quintessential peak JoJo moments early on - it also has some in the final arc. But all in all, it wasn't that great. Not every fight is all that interesting, most of the ones that are have unsatisfying conclusions, and the plot and characterization is all over the place. It was just nonsense from start to finish.The only people who thought it was good early on were the same retards who fall for JJ Abrams' mystery box shenanigans. Just write a plot with a bunch of mysteries in it and retards like you will jump up and down in your seat with anticipation and intrigue. I bet you could take literally any plot summary, to anything, and black out a few words, and sheep like you will be rubbing your chins and making YouTube videos and massive reddit posts about the "deep and complex" mystery being written.
>>287192706Took me like 2 hours to dig this up, but I found it.
>>287201042So who would you have go on the list instead? Ultimate Kars? Josuke? Notorious B.I.G.? There's not that many options for stronger characters.
>>287200516>>287195622If I had to make a list it would look something like this>Kars>Giorno Giovanna>Jotaro Kujo>Dio Brando>Alt Diego>Toru>Weather report>Enrico Pucci>Diavolo>Johnny Joestar>Vanilla Ice>Funny Valentine>Kenzou>Josuke Higashikata 8>Rohan Kishibe>Axl RO>Midler>Damo Tamaki>Panacotta Fugo>Iggy>ForeverNow how JoJo's is written by araki makes it very hard to figure out the definitive strongest to definitive weakest as many times it's shown that different circumstances can result in very different results and then there are also many "unbeatable" stands like cheap trick or notorious BIG that could theoretically beat some of these characters and way too many variables to make an objective list, but I think I come very near as close as you can regarding this so if anyone has any questions or would like to dispute some positions I'd be more than happy to explain
>>287204927>KenzouHis own Stand actively conspires against him. That being said, he's still pretty powerful and F.F. only won because she's a freak of nature. Still wouldn't put him in top 20 though.>Axl ROWorthless against someone who's lived a good life or one without remorse. Also hard countered by freaking water.>MidlerI honestly forgot about her. Yeah, I could see it.>Damo TamakiA horrifying Stand, for sure. I could also see him being top 20 material, though I see him more as being just outside it.>Panacotta FugoPotential man: the character. Cioccolata and Prosciutto have better AoEs.>IggySolid choice, only problem is he's a dog, and a lazy one at that...>ForeverThe main issue here is he's confined to a boat in the middle of the ocean.
>strength and speed comparable to crazy diamond even at far ranges>no actual limit on range just conditional if there's electricity or notman this guy really lucked out, I know its not a particularly crazy stand but if I lived in the world of jojo's i'd love to have this
>>287201213This is why I was pretty critical of Part 8 early on (around 2014) because it just felt like a lot set up. Which I know those were in the earlier days of the entire thing but rather than moving things along or anything, I felt like it kept going "Ohhh what's this?!" and just left it dangling.
Biggest problem with Jojolion is the story is about "breaking a curse" but the emotional core of that is centered around a family of weird unlikable assholes. The whole breaking the curse thing and Josuke becoming his own person thing is basically telling us that Holly's not going to get healed, that she's not who the story is about. But unfortunately the ones who do wind up on top are the Higashikata family who are almost entirely unlikable.
>>287190821Jojolion > SBR > Jojolands
>>287203584Top 20:>Jesus Christ of Nazareth>Ultimate Kars (and all the other Pillar Men, even though they can't move during the day)>Tooru>Enrico Pucci (MiH)>Weather Report (Heavy Weather)>Giorno Giovanna (GER)>DIO>Vanilla Ice>Johnny Joestar (Tusk Act 4)>Funny Valentine (Love Train)>Secco>Cioccolata>Jotaro Kujo>Alt Diego Brando>Okuyasu Nijimura>Ghiaccio>Tamaki Damo>Bruno Bucciarati>Pet Shop>MidlerHonorable Mentions:>Diavolo>Akira Otoishi>Yoshikage Kira>Narciso Annasui>ProsciuttoI don't know where Ungalo, Alessi, and the Green Baby would go, honestly, but they're somewhere. Rohan is at the very top or jobs to everyone here. There's no in-between.
>>287190821i dont remember much of it. should i read it again?
>>287205938You'll only like the first 1/3 and then realize how many plot points and characters were dropped as the story progresses
when yasuho leave at the fucking end of the manga. amazing story araki-san!
Jousuke...
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>>287205481Regarding kenzou despite his stand hating him all it did was inform the opponent of the ability, anything that goes wrong is kenzos own fault since as long as he works for it and makes sure to stay in his lucky spot he basically has his own mini wonder of u, the only way to beat him is to trick him into stepping outside his safe spot like ff did with the mirror, or make him physically unable to control his position by turning his legs into springs like anasui did.>Axl ROName one character who Civil War is worthless against, he can only die by being third partied or by being killed by his own guilt which only activates if he kills you for some reason>FugoEh, I gave him the edge because of the conditions of the other aoe stands eith cioccolata needing you to go to a lower position and greatful dead being countered by an ice cube but like I said about the way power scaling in jojo works it's not set in stone and could go any way.And for the rest I was a bit iffy about choosing these and I was just trying to think of characters that have insane defensive and offensive damage output that would be hard to beat, I could've put stuff like rubber soul, pet shop, or steely dan in there too since those are really strong as well
>>287205935Your list is a little sloppy but alright, but why the hell is bucciarati there?
>>287207527Bruno's there because his Stand ability is actually pretty busted in straight-forward combat. He could essentially kill you in one punch if he severs your head from your neck, and there's nothing you can do about it. He's got the same advantage as Secco and Damo has where they can easily incapacitate you with a single barrage. They just both beat Bruno in some way.(Also, I think I forgot about Yuya Fungami)
>>287207665I just don't feel like he has the speed or strength to capitalize on it, it also seems pretty inconsistent and like he's only able to actually do that when the enemy is actually defeated, otherwise he could've just one tapped prosciutto or giorno
>>287207793He says during his interrogation of Giorno that he could easily knock his head off and kick it around to get information. And during the Grateful Dead fight, he never manages to get a clean hit off on Prosciutto's actual head, though he does come close. Also, it seems pretty apparent that he can control whether or not his zippers just separate body parts or saw a person in half; i.e. in Pesci's case.
>>287207951But he did land a good hit to his abdomen, why didn't he just sever his lower body from his upper half then? And I guess this isn't an argument against your claim but why didn't he just take giornos head off to interrogate him, why even give him a chance to fight back since it was completely possible he was a stand user
>>287208189>But he did land a good hit to his abdomenI was going to cope and say "something something just trying to gain space, not incapacitate", but they actually mention it.>why didn't he just take giornos head off to interrogate himBecause he's a good person :3
>>287195622Harvest is my prime example of a stand that would be terrifying but gets nerfed by its user. Those little bastards were able to inject alcohol into Josuke and Okuyasu without them noticing, now what if it was anything deadlier?
>>287190821It's not.
>>287191172>chapter 1 Yasuho: never seen a man's junk>endgame Yasuho: had an ex-boyfriend who conveniently wiped her memories
>>287207380Man imagine if the Head Doctor was 67 years old instead, these threads would've become pure cancer today
>>287190821it's not well-written at all and araki didn't have any plansmystery part is entertaining to the least, but it goes nowhere
This thread inspired me to read jojolion one chapter a dayWTF is the deal with Joshu? Also, wtf happened to his eyes?
>>287210484>seeing Josuke's big fat nuts made her feel like a virgin againwew
>>287210757Just keep reading?
Why did these farmers get targeted instead of someone on the other side of the world like every other instance?
pelvis-shattering sex with hot pants
>>287213110To make Valentine a bad guy
>>287211550>>287210484so Yashuo is just the mvp when it comes to finding men it seems spoiler] god I wish I was her [/spoiler]
>>287213833FUCK I FORGOT THE BRACKET
>>287194936im recreating 1890 with my negro servantsgo on git!
>>287193979I'm trans btw
>>287213833No, she's just lonely and extremely insecure. Her first boyfriend groomed her for years, and her second boyfriend is just a baby she found lying on the beach.
>>287213365Hot Pants would be a shit lay, anon. She's a nun.
>>287213110Because Valentine doesn't give a fuck about anyone at all. Just himself.
>>287213110At that point the corpse was protecting Lucy and Valentine, not the whole country
I feel verySOFTOANDOWETTO.UwU
I've only followed the story up to Stone Ocean. does it ever break from the "enemy stand of the week" format?
>>287219075No. There's always arcs, sorry.
