What makes a fighter the strongest?
Butt size
>>287199108Pan is the strongest.
Whenever Bejita gets punched in the anime I also punch myself IRL so that I can share in his pain.No one in these halls is a truer Bejitabro than me.
>>287199488
>>287199488What did you do when you saw this?
>>287199488How are you not dead yet?
>>287199341...candidate for worst character in the series.
>>287199141
>>287199981SSJ3 Goku is so lucky...
https://youtu.be/A-cWhGvs1jY?si=3e7Wl6FIwyi438c7This is still the coolest fight sequence in Z btw. This fight is best fight of the entire series btw. SSJ Vegito is canonically the strongest fighter in the entire series btw.
>>287199609That one hurt for several days. My mom kept asking me what's wrong and I told her I had food poisoning.>>287199900I think of my hero and endure the pain
>>287200207>I think of my hero and endure the pain
I'm a GokuBro and I autododge all my self punches to pretend I'm in MUI.
I'm a Brolybro and I eat my dog's food.
>>287200164>SSJ Vegito is canonically the strongest fighter in the entire series btw.Theres no doubt about it.
>>287200542I took inspiration from this chart and heavily improved it. Added a lot more characters and reassesed their place on the powerlevel chart.
SSJ3ku and Kid Buu are stronger btw
>>287200457Kek
>>287200727...than Mystic Gohan and Buuhan.
>>287200542Is Kid Buu really weaker (or at least equal to) than Fat Buu? I can't see it.
Pan is shit.
So thoughts on Imus true look'm
>SSJ>Mystic
>>287200164No.
>>287200841There are two versions of Fat Buu:1: Majin Buu.2: Good/Mr Buu.Majin Buu splitting into two made Good Buu a lot weaker. Majin Buu also fought on equal terms with a dead SSJ3 Goku who is a lot stronger then when he became alive again. When Goku tried to power up to 100% VS Kid Buu, he complained that he wasn't as strong and/or that something was wrong. Him being dead and not mortal helped his form be much stronger than his mortal form that drains stamina a lot faster.
>>287199981
I came inside Bulma...
>>287201417We know, Vegeta. You have two biological kids.
>>287201417We know, Krillin. She was irresistible in the Namek ship…
Is SSJ4 Kevin strong?
>>287201417A hundred men, maybe more…
Guys I've located BejitaShould I go talk to him?
>>287201236> Vegito goes SSJ3> Cucku winds up gapedHuh?
> J
>Bejita goes SSJ3...Oh wait that cuck only got SSJ2!!! KWABBY WAB KWAB!!!
Kakarotto and his sons and my own son, who light biologically be Kakarot's, are so lucky they broke the SSJ2 barrier while I'm burning in hell for being a mind cuck to Babidi...
>>287202520>Oh wait that cuck only got SSJ2!!! KWABBY WAB KWAB!!!HAHAHAHA WHAT A BITCHLET!!
>>287202552Sounds oddly familiar. Brings to mind a balding manlet crybaby who has never defeated a major villain.
>>287202575>fight he wonTARDkuSCUM...
>TARDkuSCUM...
Bejita killed GokuSo Trunks killed GokuaLike harry potter, it rhymes
>>287202518>Clock-sama has no ki >Omega Shenron generates negative energyIt makes sense why he had to dodge an inanimate object. Omega has a power level less than zero.
>>287202666>Satan>needed to go Super Saiyan Blue just to do itPathetic
Bejita lost to GokuSo Trunks wanted Goku to be his dadJust like Sonic the Hedgehog it's canon
>>287202666
False False Super Saiyan.He couldn't even do False Super Saiyan correctly.It's getting sad now.
>>287202757Why did the ground turn into a grid anyway
False Legendary Super Saiyan.His son couldn't even do the legendary form correctly.It's... over
>Wow Chadkarotto can combine Kaioken with SSJ Blue and be even more POWERFUL and COOL? I'm a gay faggot cuck so I'll just get anime eyes instead.
If you're strongYou can flyYou can reach the other sideOf the rainbowIt's all rightTake a chanceCause there is no circumstanceThat you can't handleWhen you use your mind
>>287202852I wish my """hero""" was as cool as GODku. SWINEjitaPIG btw.
>>287202852This was the last actual fight where Super Saiyan was a trump card and not just the default expectation to be able to do anything
>>287202852We love Crush 40 here.
>>287202899This is true.
>>287202518Why does this face of Omega Shenron look like jumpscare material
>>287203049He's the ultimate villain of the series.
How come just the TV broadcast version of the final episode of GT was the only one showing Goku visiting Beerus and Whis with Shenron before leaving in the final episode? And why didn't they show the filler episode of Gohan losing his beast form?
>>287200542>Someone else remembered 70% FriezaBased chart.
>>287203009Why can't Bejita EVER keep up? What the FUCK is his problem?
>>287203378What a disgusting little creature. Goku should fucking kill that thing and put it out of its misery.
>>287203580I like the way you think.
>>287203622KWADJ (Kek What A Dead Jobber)
>>287200542I was a dumb kid I thought Vegito's two slightly red bangs were actually a sign he was at Super Saiyan 4 level
>>287203819Toriyama said this was true.
>>287203819No you read that in an official note given by Toriyama, that was actually true the entire time
The original funimation English opening for Dragon Ball Z spoiled Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan Bejita and Trunks when the dub hadn't even gotten past Goku flexing on Burter, and no one even caredDid YOU care, scholar?I never thought about it at all. I saw the intro hundreds of times and still reacted in awe when Goku first transformed.
>funimation>English>Burter
>>287204381...is the right way to watch the series.
>>287204463... but enough about the Ocean dub.
>>287204698's superior English dub, the Funimation dub with Faulconer.
>>287204733...'s superior English dub, the Ocean dub, with actual good voices, which fit the characters, and has a blissful absence of Sean "Faggot" Schemmel.
Now, I like to put the jelly inside my ass. Then put some of this peanut butter on top of it. I call it a peanut butter, jelly and asshole sandwich, but Goku here will be calling it lunch.
So this freak is back to melting down about Vegeta and spamming the same images all day long now?
>>287202520>denying reality againPathetic.
>>287204463No lies detected
>Remember Bejita...>Shut up Kakarot.>Remember the Demon Realm Bejita.>No Kakarot, that never happened.>Remember Super Saiyan 3 Bejita.>No I...I would have used it against Beerus, I couldn't have...>The hamsters Bejita! Remember the hamsters!>SHUT UP!
>>287202575Vegeta is TANKING those punches
>>287203622Beat you to it, monkey!
>>287205074Defeated by demon tuna btw, many such cases...
>Of course I had to run away from Krillin! He had a sword! A fucking SWORD!! What am I supposed to do against a SWORD!? >W-.... W-what do you mean Kakarotto was bulletproof when he was only a child...?>...>FFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK.............
>You guys have fun... I'll just be in the corner over there!
>>287205202Videl...
>>287205493Bejitabro...
>>287199141Fixed. GokuCHAD btw.
>>287205493>t.
>>287205493We know, Nulyfriend!
>Jiren won fair and sq-ACK!
>>287205202My kingdom for a taste
>>287205202WHEW
Android 18 and Krillin
goku lost
>>287201417We know, every single male character in Dragon Ball except general Blue and Zamasu.
>>287206578Forever.
>>287199341True
Goku won.
Krillin won the fight.
>>287207281...of getting 18's son, Uub Jr., full custody.
Dragon Ball and guitar solos. Nothing else matters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-gOkp7YJRw
Pan is weak.
>>287204786this also Shuki Levy's music>>>>>shit falconer
>>287199108Sex with Pan!
>>287205074gay
>>287205108What do you mean boing boing isn't a fitting sound in DBZ?
>>287207937Get better taste.
>>287207900Bowl cutsWhy all the fucking bowl cuts Look at that fucking Saiyan with a bowl cut and mutton chops Why was Toriyama obsessed with bowl cuts in 1990-1992 that he gave one to Gohan, Trunks, that one guy on Bardock's squad and half of the background SaiyansWhy can't we get more 70s country rock Injun Chads
Goku is so fucking hot
>>287208174He fucked a boy with a bowl cut is why Here's ChadJitaHe's happenin
>>287208201WHOREma...
>>287208201Makima...
If Toyo made majority of Moro and Granolah arc then I can safely say Dragon Ball is in good hands
>>287205423Canon!
>>287205423This happened and was a callback to a similar incident that happened between Gohan, Marron and Krillin
>>287199108a good ass
>>287209142That’s a child…
>>287209142That's a shit character...
>>287208174I like the variety we see in this one shot, especially the blonde saiyan's, the girl with the frilly hair and the dude with a mustaches that's like a giant, the frilly hair like that is really unique, with the rise of the concept of super saiyan i guess it would be confusing to have blonde regular saiyan's but i think its neat, if those two went super saiyan i wonder how differently they'd look, i guess just have ki aura around them and their hair becomes a bit more spiky>>287208201solely physically or personality wise too?>>287209206with a good ass
>>287209309Dunno, anon. I've never seen a single DB episode in my life, so I don't give a shit.I just like cute girl asses in jeans.
Pan was on little st james
>an*n
>>287208201... and ready to get gaped by vegita for the fourth time
>>287199108
>>287199108Wearing latex that shows the booty well
>>287209656i gotta rerender my hoppu video with better quality footage
>>287209905they never really did any more interesting shots like this between them more directly showing their height difference
>the continuation of the GODnga's spine has leakedSoon.....
>>287210552Is this real?
>>287210599Yes. Unironically leaked by the Spanish version of the volumes. Kek.
>>287210599It looks like a massive fuckup on the part of the spanish distributor considering that every version of the volume basically cuts off before 73 appears. Someone is getting fired.
>>287210599>>287210685
>>287210634>>287210685>>287210740Neat
>>287210685>>287210740Kek. I kneel to Spanish SCHOLARS!!!
>>287199488>>287200207If you were a Dragon Ball character you'd have a 1000000000000 power level without ever having gotten into a single fight.
>>287210685who the fuck is that
>>287211177>blue hand
By being the strongest, duh.
>>287211203it looks like a mini 73 not this jobber
Pan is a heroine.
Bulla's gonna kick your mother𝑭𝑼𝑪𝑲𝑰𝑵 ass
>>287212106Impregnating mating press
>>287212106
>>287212255Kek. Funny and based canon.
>>287211358
>>287212106why what did i do
>>287200542Was Vegito really weaker than Buu Gohan? It didn't seem that way at all, but maybe my memory is off.
>>287212403
>>287212400Vegito felt the need to transform after fusing for a reason. It probably meant he was a bit weaker than Buuhan in base.
>>287201254Equal terms? Goku used him as a reflex ball and punching bag. He's just dumb as fuck and assumed goten and trunks could handle it before it got worse. Said something like he couldn't be the hero because he was dead, and the planets protectors should be the living.
>>287212569
>>287212585
>>287212615
>>287212634
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>287212793Nah you're done, piggy
>>287213156Pfft.
>>287213156>>287212951>>287212793
yamcha's a god tier fighter in any other series
>>287213448Yes, he is.
>>287212682what kind of fun
Goku literally chimped out when he thought Pan diedHe unironically has been shown to be more loving towards her than both of his sons on screen
>>287213504Interesting
So what's next for this guy after the recent leak?
>>287212106Her name is Bra
What a BRAT!!!
𝑰'𝑴 𝑪𝑶𝑴𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑶𝑼𝑻!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>287213675Frieza is taking him from the Heeters dungeon and reusing him
>>287213919CONGRATULATIONS, JIRENBRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>287213869fuck off pedo
>>287213869what's bratty about her, what does she do, is she a brapbrat
>>287213487The good kind.
>>287199108They should start with not being from Gay Trash, which scales even lower than OG.
>>287214560Kek. True.
>>287214560>>287214631RTH
>>287209352I want to play a DBZ game set on Planet Vegeta so badly
>>287214799It'll never happen. That would require someone in charge to give a fuck, which hasn't been the case for decades.
He shook an INFINITE void, and wasn't even trying to. That was just a byproduct of his power.
>>287215298What, exactly, is the secret of his power?
>>287215460He's the SSJ (Super Strong Jiren).
>>287215460>that filenameKek.
>>287213869Tail pulling sex
Jiren's character design is brilliant in its simplicity.
Post your face when you aren’t a blocked, newfag off topic pedophile who nobody in the threads likes. Jirrydoo poodlypoo.
When it comes to character design, Pan really is the pinnacle.
What's the deal with this vision in the pendelum room in the context of the toeiverse, cause like we see a statue of a Saiyan holding a weapon so is this a planet that they conquered and erected of statue of a saiyan or, is it vegeta at some point? we see corpses with scouters and armor, so were these frieza force members the Saiyans killed or saiyans themselves cause obviously the two living saiyans we see have the scouters and armor too, is it the aftermath of the saiyan/tuffle war?>>287214799Same, We don't get to see alot of it so I think it would be good to explore the world more since we get a good look at it even in Bardock, How do you imagine the game being? The way im thinking or imaginging it working gameplay wise is maybe Vegeta is like a hub world or home base and the different level's are you being sent to differing planets to clear out the inhabitants of them, Im guessing alot of saiyan npc's and such and maybe you create your own character, or would you think you play as a specific character, canon or created solely for game otherwise, also girl in your image is neat, she seems to have like armor horns or something.>>287215624big brain>>287213448he's cool
Post the biggest users in Dragon Ball
>>287214560Yup yup Daipa and Grand Turd lose to tanks and clocks.
>>287216880KEK! This is the only good DBM page.
It really is inspiring to see Toriyama's original creations, we should all be thankful for the gifts he left us.
Pan was Toriyama's swansong.
Just look at this, Toriyama was a true artist.
>J
>>287215783>admits that DIRTren is simple and boring
Semi-Perfect Cell had a pretty cool design, but I wonder what Cell Max would've looked like if they based his design more around Imperfect Cell. I've seen plenty of "Perfect Cell Max" fanart, but I never any based on Cell's first form.
Really impressive and detailed art, unfortunately, nothing like this was ever produced for Super.
>>287216880Imagine being so salty about GT, you write a fan fic where you murder a child to prove how edgy you are.
The amazing Bojack Gaiden continues!
>Imagine being so salty about GT, you write a fan fic where you murder a child to prove how edgy you are.
>Salagir reinvented UI and thinks he's a genius writer
>>287218237Reminder that Bojack is a important character to the story.
>>287209603Bejita is the uke doe
>>287218330>The form was dubbed "Normal Super Saiyan" by Vegeta, in response to Goku saying it should be their normal state.>The form's appearance greatly resembles the Ultra Instinct Sign form, and its function is similar to Perfected Super Saiyan Blue. According to Salagir, he came up with this form before Dragon Ball Super existed.Please believe this... PLEASE... Normal Super Bojack next chapter btw! Get hyped.
>>287218454Does he think everyone is as retarded as the "people" who read his fanfiction?
It makes perfect sense for Pan to be the strongest character yet.
>>287218716Quit shitposting.
>>287218716https://youtube.com/watch?v=ns0_RQNU5Hw&pp=ygUHU3R1cGlmeQ%3D%3D
Pan is pure sex. Shame all her doujin's are all bullshit smalldom/femdom nonsense.
>>287218340Im happy he's in Daima
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WPpDyIJdasg&pp=ygUPY2hhbmdlIGRlZnRvbmVz
>>287218716True. If half sayans like Gohan and Goten have higher potential, 1/4 should be even higher. Give her Elder Kai treatment, and she would mog Jiren.
>the entire point of that alien giving Bardock his power to see the future was to make Bardock see visions of his grim fate and how he's completely helpless to do anything about it>DURRRRRRR ISN'T IT WEIRD HOW THE VISIONS DON'T HELP BARDOCK WITH ANYTHING IN THE SPECIAL???
Is anything actually happening or should I just stop coming here for a while?
>>287218977> If half sayans like Gohan and Goten have higher potential, 1/4 should be even higher.Based on what? Your retarded headcanon? If we accept that logic, Goku Jr. should be a nigh-unbeatable monster, yet he had to go Super Saiyan to fight an OG level character and he was stated to be weaker than a 100 year old, decrepit, sickly Pan.>>287219036This is why almost all DB fanfictions are trash. The "fans" are a bunch of fucking morons that can't comprehend even the simplest of concepts. Bardock being punished by having future visions of his entire race getting annihilated as a sort of penance for his role in doing the same thing to countless over races, and being completely helpless to change it, was really dark and a great bit of writing. Hell, Toriyama liked the special so much he added Bardock's design to the manga. This stupid piece of French shit thinking he somehow improved that by turning it into generic trash for his shitty waifuwank fanfiction legitimately makes me angry.
>>287219036Yeah, I hate fan fic writers who think they're so much smarter than the original. Completly missed the point, that it was supposed to torture Bardock, not help him. And then his cheerleader squad in the coments call him a genius.
>>287219132>Based on what? Your retarded headcanon? If we accept that logic, Goku Jr. should be a nigh-unbeatable monster, yet he had to go Super Saiyan to fight an OG level character and he was stated to be weaker than a 100 year old, decrepit, sickly Pan.Because he was even bigger pussy when it came to fighting, than Gohan. Spoiled by good times, that little shit.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VjqBuxpgMyo&pp=ygUWdGVuZHJpbCB0aGUgaW52aXNpYmxlcw%3D%3D
>>287219135>>287219036Yeah the whole reason the kanassian does it is as a final fuck you to the saiyan's that just wiped out his entire planet that we see at the beginning of the special, its a form of revenge, why the fuck would he want to help them in any way
>>287219188
>>287219163Pan wasn't training either, she was going on fucking dates. She only ended up fighting in GT via circumstance. Yet you're implying that she should be some god-tier fighter because of her 1/4 Saiyan blood, despite there being no evidence that further diluting the Saiyan blood leads to greater power. If you really want to do a deep dive, in Dragon Ball Online (written by Toriyama), everyone on Earth has trace amounts of Saiyan blood and can wish to become Super Saiyans, but it's never implied that they're any stronger than an average Saiyan despite their blood being so diluted they're almost totally human. It's even more diluted than Goku and Vegeta Jr.'s 1/16th amount.
>>287219226
>>287219132It wasn’t good writing, it was contrived so that he could see goku become a super saiyan. It’s actually extremely shit writing. There is no penance because he sees his own progeny avenge his race, he dies knowing that the saiyans ultimately win, which is something he doesn’t deserve since a) he didn’t give a shit about goku in the first place and b) learned absolutely nothing about his own moral equivalence to freeza. You are overestimating the amount of sympathy gooks are capable of, they don’t do emotionally nuanced writing. The future visions existed entirely as a vehicle for a fanwank scene where bardock sees goku killing freeza, there’s no moral lesson in it. The saiyans being admonished for their crimes is a dub invention, just another way westerners actually tried to put themes into this braindead show for adolescent boys.
>>287219335>retarded French piece of ugly frog shit missing the point yet againShut the fuck up and kill yourself, Salagir.
>>287219282>Pan wasn't training either, she was going on fucking dates. She only ended up fighting in GT via circumstance.Yeah, and that's why she wasn't as strong as she could. QED.
>>287219036he then becomes king and fucks a OC who is goku and radtiz's REAL mom and also one of the strongest saiyans around and she becomes queen too
>>287219335>There is no penanceHe and every single member of his race sans his son (as far as he knew) was going to die and there was nothing he could do about it. It doesn't matter if the vision also showed him Goku killing Freeza decades later, that didn't elicit any sort of "It's totally worth it!" response from him because he and his entire race were still going to be massacred.>>287219378So now you're moving the goalposts. As expected of the Pan shitposter.
>>287219301As a character Z Broly is not the most riveting invention, but I just love how he was this immovable object throughout the entire fight.
>>287219409And that was his purpose. He was supposed to be a harrowing force of nature that felt genuinely impossible to even scratch, let alone defeat, with a few edgy lines sprinkled in here and there to add to that menace. Movie 8 Broly did exactly what he was supposed to do and made the movie great. Second Coming is where they completely dropped the ball and that's the one most people are thinking of when they bitch about Z Broly's portrayal.
>>287219335>It wasn’t good writing, it was contrived so that he could see goku become a super saiyan.Except he didn't saw him become SSJ, just that he's gonna fight Freeza at some point in his life. And given the context of previous visions, it might as well be "and then your son will fight Freeza, and get rekt, muahahaha".
>>287219404He sees that despite the saiyans not deserving it in any way, ultimately they will be the ones to overthrow freeza. He does get catharsis that he hasn’t earned and dies smiling knowing his own son will become the strongest in the universe. He gets the closest he can to a happy ending and it is totally unearned.
>>287219036>why didn’t the guys on this planet see the future, and fled then?Funny that this gets explained in the very next page so it makes TARDlagir’s angry rant completely moot.
>>287219335Sacrebleu!
>>287219335>so that he could see goku become a super saiyan>because he sees his own progeny avenge his race>he dies knowing that the saiyans ultimately win>bardock sees goku killing freezaliterally none of these are thing's he see's anon, he doesnt see any of these thing's literally all he see's is goku standing in front of frieza, this is all shit youre adding onto it yourself
>>287219450>he totally gets a happy ending bro>he fucking dies knowing his son cucked all his glory awayWave your white flag already.
>>287219497Uhm... you feel... lust, looking at 10 year old Pan?
>>287219483He's a dumb faggot that has only ever watched Tranny Fag Shit and thinks their "joke" in that scene is actually what occurred in canon.
>>287218799I'm not shitposting, but I can understand your reluctance, at that time, Pan was in fact not as strong, but in the end, years later, she must have been the strongest.
>>287219594>she must have been the strongest.
>>287219483>sees his own progeny confidently approaching a battle damaged freeza The implication is obviously that goku is going to avenge his race. No saiyan would dare do this in his own time, it is a clear indication that goku is strong enough to take him.>>287219489>can’t comprehend the idea of someone being proud of their child, or seeing their child as a continuation of their legacyHe sees his own offspring being the one who stands against freeza, he his son being the avenger and representative of their entire race. That isn’t “cucked”, any father would be thrilled to see that, hence my point. He didn’t care about goku and so he didn’t earn this little bit of prophetic mercy before he died. He should has died without hope, but he is rewarded for his shitty behaviour just so the audience can basedface and clap. A better way to write this would be the visions actually giving him some compassion for the aliens he wipes out, and as a result he intentionally sends his son to a nice planet where he knows he will be cared for, rather than become strong. His moral decision is rewarded with showing that having mentors caring for goku and giving him good values is ultimately what makes him strong, and so his compassionate decision is vindicated in his final moments and he sees the error of the saiyan ways. But we don’t get that. He learns nothing from any of this and goku is good because he got brain damage. There is zero moral substance in DB, as in most anime, which is why it remains a childish medium.
>>287219679>No saiyan would dare do this in his own timeKing Vegeta fucking died doing just that, in that very special. You really have only watched Team Fag Star.>any father would be thrilled to see thatSo now you're contradicting yourself. First it was a problem that Bardock saw his son going up against Freeza in the future, now it's a good thing because that better supports your position. You're just a really low IQ dipshit that can't into narrative interpretation and thinks you're a lot more knowledgeable than you are, floundering desperately because you don't actually have a clue how to support your position, or even what your position is.>as in most anime, which is why it remains a childish medium.I love when people who have only ever watched Dragon Ball try to comment on anime as a whole. It lets me know how far beneath me they are.
>>287219758You are really dumb and don’t understand my point. No, I have been consistent. It’s good for bardock to see that, it’s a reward to him. That’s why I think it’s bad narratively, since it is not earned and does not come about as the result of a moral revelation. If you are too stupid to follow the line of debate I will not engage with you. It is good from bardocks POV, but bad from a narrative point of view. This is not that complex. >you are beneath me for not watching cartoons for childrenOkay.
>>287219679>No saiyan would dare do this in his own time
>>287219679>The implication is obviously that goku is going to avenge his raceImpilication to the audience, not to him who when he last saw his son who had an incredibly shit power level so much so that he didn't even feel it worth acknoledging him>No saiyan would dare do this in his own time,it is a clear indication that goku is strong enough to take himBardock literally just did this exact thing and dies and is currently burning in a giant fireball while seeing this anon, there is literally no guarantee here from his perspective
>basedface
>>287219805>N-NO U R DUMB!I accept your concession. Pick someone down at your sub room temperature IQ level next time if you want to say a bunch of retarded shit and not get called out for it.
>>287219758>King Vegeta fucking died doing just that, in that very special. You really have only watched Team Fag Star.No he didn't, King Vegeta doesn't show up in this special at all. We only see his death in anime.
>>287219833You objectively misunderstood the argument at a really basic level.
>>287219844>argument through repetitionRespond to this post, my little cuckpuppet.
>>287219617Did she not tank that?
Pan will kill Black Freeza.
>>287219870>moving the goalpostsAs you always do.
>>287219818He knows that his race doesn’t die out and he knows that his son will grow up to be strong and face down their racial enemy in his final form (showing that he is demonstrably more powerful than every current saiyan existing, since freeza has been pushed that far). He dies smiling and so the implication is obviously that this was a source of pride for him, a reward. We are supposed to interpret it as him seeing what we know will happen. You are trying to bring themes out of a special which has none.>>287219843No surprise they’re being disingenuous.
>>287219844Your "argument" was shit and got shredded by multiple people and you demonstrated your total ignorance of the series by claiming Bardock saw all this shit in his vision that he didn't actually see. You lost and you are a secondary
>>287219900>I am too stupid to comprehend really simple themes in a really simple special so that means they don't existYou remind me of midwits who pretend critics are all full of shit because they're too retarded to even understand what those critics are saying
>>287219885Didn't she?
>>287219679>Bardock is burned alive and then sent to hell>rewarded for his shitty behaviorHuh?
Even if you accept this retard's criticism, it doesn't change the fact that Bardock didn't see anything positive in his visions until the moment he and his entire race were dying. He spent the entire special in emotional agony because all he saw was Freeza killing everyone while he was powerless to stop it. Trying to pretend the implications of that suddenly disappear because he gets one quick glimpse of Goku standing across from Freeza who knows how many years in the future is actual stupidity. This dude is dumber than a fucking brick
>>287219907I don’t base my opinion on multiple people seething at it. I see no indication any of you understand what makes a narrative satisfying. The bardock special is entertaining trash, there’s no theme. The vision is clearly a one note vehicle for the fanwank of goku’s dad seeing him grown up and fighting freeza. You are trying to wring contapasso out of a series where the good guy is good because he got hit on the head as a baby. If there’s any theme in DB, it’s that good and evil are the results of random chance, especially since goku is only “good” since he fights selfishly and just happens to pick the “bad” people to utilize his bloodlust against.
>>287219947>he's gone from "SHE WAS TOTALLY THE STRONGEST EVER" to "w-well she didn't die after she jobbed to the flu"Pathetic.
>>287219987>>287219940
>>287219617This is Pan well past her prime. Of course she wasn't as strong here as Prime Pan.
>>287219617More importantly, why did Briefs and Son family stop talking?
>PAN WAS TOTALLY TEH STRONKEST EVARRRRR>she jobbed as a child>n-no that's too early>she jobbed to sickness as an old woman>n-no that's too lateFunny how this hypothetical "strongest" version of Pan is the only one that's never shown. Almost like a certain retard who loves to push unfounded headcanon is making it up.
>>287220058Because Goku and Bejita had a falling out over Bejita refusing to kiss Chi-Chi.
>>287219940There is no theme. He at no point comes to any sort of revelation about his own behaviour or the behaviour of his species. That is fanfiction. >>287219955For one, we don’t see him sent to hell, and can assume his soul was simply recycled like most beings. What I am saying is that showing him the survival of his species and the strength of his son is unearned and acts like a reward for nothing. He never gave a shit about goku, and he never came to a moral revelation about the evil of his race. He gets undeniable catharsis for nothing, to wank the fans.>>287219977You can seethe all you want, I am objectively right and it’s poorly written and conceived. It’s a product so the can make another goku (and sell merchandise of it) and show the fans a bit of history the manga didn’t show. That’s the sole reason it exists. You signal “emotional agony” which is not at all present in the special. If anything, bardock under reacts. He gets mad, but he doesn’t ever display any understanding of the dramatic irony of the situation or display a genuine comprehension of the gravity of what is going to happen. He delusionally attacks freeza genuinely thinking he can win and is shocked when freeza bodies him. You rely on headcanon for your argument.
>>287220091>For one, we don’t see him sent to hell, and can assume his soul was simply recycled like most beings.Headcanon: Bardock was part of sinful souls that made Janemba.
>>287219993Hold on, wasn't Pan the strongest at that time?
>>287220091>There is no themeDo I need to repeat myself? You being too stupid to comprehend a theme does not make the theme stop existing. Do you understand now? Were those small enough words for your third-world brain?>no argument, just NOPENOPENOPENOPE LALALALALA I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHTYou even "argue" like a thirdie.
>>287220061Good points. She's confirmed fodder.
>>287220091>I am objectively right and it’s poorly written and conceived.I mean, yeah. It's Dragon Ball. I don't watch it expecting Shakespearean writing.
>>287220134No? Both Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. were stronger than she was.
>>287220137What was the theme, and demonstrate with evidence how that theme was implemented. Show objective indications of authorial intent, none of this death of the author projection. It is fun slop, nothing more.>>287220152Exactly. Not saying it’s bad, I like the special. But people massively over estimate the depth of most anime. It is a fairly shallow medium all told, an even the most “nuanced” stuff is fairly sophomoric and basic. I don’t think japan is a terribly emotionally introspective culture. Even the heights of their literature (mishima etc) are shit.
>>287220167Only because those sexist misogynistic pigs refused to make her SSJ.
>>287220151That's an edit pic of Bejita.
>everyone on Earth leaves except for Yajirobe>BROOOOO YAJIROBE IS THE STRONGEST!!!!!This is GTard "logic" apparently
Erotic feet.
>>287220167Really?Well, if you say so...
>>287220223I can't wait for anime to add "baaaaaaaaa" to every line of his dialogue.
>>287220209>What was the themeThe theme has already been explained. You plugged your brown ears and screamed "NONONONONONONO", I accepted your concession, and you lost the argument.
>>287220209>even the most “nuanced” stuff is fairly sophomoric and basicI fucking hate pretentious midwits like you so much it's unreal
>>287220282I am being the opposite of pretentious. Pretentious people pretend there is something more to the things they like than there really is, to give it some sort of intellectual gravitas out of insecurity. I can admit I like basic entertainment and that not everything needs to be more than that. I don’t need to prop up literature just because it is foreign and orientalist in order to make myself feel cultured. I can admit it’s basic and enjoy it. You can’t do this, which is a pretentious instinct.
>>287199108A character strength is measured by the difficulty of the challenge that it´s capable of overcome. It´s a title that lies at the end of an arduous journey of sacrifice and struggle. For this reason no character that´s shown to overcome everything with ease from the start can be dubbed the strongest, no character whose measure of strength or skill are some easily acquired video game skills can be dubbed the strongest, no character that is merely refereed as strong without proving itself can be called that either. In short, it´s not the strong who stands at the peak but rather it´s the one that reach that peak who is strong. The reason most contemporary writing fails to create strong characters is because they want to basically skip to the end of the journey and call their characters strong from the go. They want to skip all the trials by fire and tribulations and go right for the reward. A clear symptom of a society accustomed to instant gratification.
>>287220340>umm ackshually NO UThat's really all you thirdie wastes of oxygen can say huh
>People are confused by Dragon Ball movies, whose plots could be summarized on a napkin
>>287219900> face down their racial enemy in his final form (showing that he is demonstrably more powerful than every current saiyan existing, since freeza has been pushed that far)Again anon, he doesnt see this shit, did you watch the special? clearly not if you're getting this much shit wrong from it as shown before. It's the exact same form Bardock himself went up aganist and is currently burning alive from, he has no reason to assume the same won't happen to kakarot, It's also doubtful Bardock is even aware Frieza has multiple form, so he wouldn't even have this information youre suggesting.>>287220091> and can assume his soul was simply recycled like most beings.Hell exists in dragon ball and looking at his deeds of genociding several entire civilazations King Yemma would no doubt send him there.>You signal “emotional agony” which is not at all present in the special. Bardock literally experiences this, you cannot tell me that he was not in any sort of agony during these events or was somehow fine with it> He delusionally attacks freeza genuinely thinking he can winIt's doubtful he think's this when he knows how powerful frieza is, he wouldn't try getting the other saiyans to join him if he thought he could, his entire crew is dead and his planet is about to die, its a suicide mission and last ditch effort, he tries because he has nothing left to lose and know he's fucked, he knows he more than likely wont suceed but tries anywayyoure a retard i shan't respond anymore to
>>287220223The SAVIOR of the series.
>>287220444He's a TFShitter, they're known to be really stupid.
>>287220342I agree, but I think it’s more so to do with an immature culture of man children. They are catered to. They never had to mould themselves into a person capable of subsisting on their own, and they never had to cohere with others who clashed with them to get along. Nowerdays, if someone emotionally challenges you, you can cut them out with no consequences as there are a million online communities at your finger tips who will validate and mirror your every flaw. The reason we no longer write epics is because the lived experience necessary to create them (struggle, emotional honesty, the ego being damaged, admitting its weaknesses and being reformed) no longer exists. You have a society of dependents, who because they are dependent, remain intellectually like children. Becoming strong implies something was ever wrong with you, and change. It also implies giving up luxuries, accepting help from wiser mentors and ultimately admitting you were born flawed and must live up to an ideal which is greater than you. The modern culture of babied self centered narcissism is incapable of this, and so our fiction now revolves around impeachable people entitled to their abilities who are never morally challenged, never humiliated, questioned, and who never have to undergo genuine change. It is media for manbabies.
>>287220450Honestly, I never watched it an if I made factual errors then I admit you are right. I just like arguing with people.
>>287220543Worthless TFScuck. Kill yourself.
Bejita trained with the yardrats doesn't that mean he should have the heart virus any time in the future?
>>287220614Maybe he didn't have unprotected sex with them
>>287220558I actually hate TFS and think they are the exact people you are criticizing attacking me. They are midwits with zero creative spark who think adding their own fanfiction to another’s work of imagination makes them superior to that person. They genuinely believe they created something emotionally impactful and deep with their parody slop by filling a fun action story with schmaltz, fake sentimentality and extremely cliche bullshit which 99% of the time is taking the original themes of the story and just cranking them up to 11 so retards can’t possibly miss the unsubtle nature of them. The way they speak about “their” creation is insufferable and arrogant.
>>287219806https://youtube.com/watch?v=yyXMO0uBHjM&pp=ygUaYm9iIGVuenl0ZSBjb21tZXJjaWFsIHNvbmc%3D
>>287220656>obese dog that has never seen the Bardock special is still barking
>>287220750>saying the faggot who admitted to never having watched the Bardock special has never watched the Bardock special is projectionWhy are you such a fucking retard?
>>287220614Bejita had his heart virus immunizations when he worked for the Freeza Force.
>>287201417Yamcha...
>>287201417Goku literally tapped that first.
>>287220245Bejita jobbed to those smelly feet…
>>287220866>he's schizoing outIt's all the bacteria in that third-world water.
>>287220890Maybe you don’t get the irony of a completely random insult that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I declare you defeated. You may leave the arena, tail between your legs and head bowed in shame.
>>287220919>he ran away after getting BTFO about the Bardock special and admitting he's never even seen it
Pan lost.
yajirobe 1 - 0 vegeta
>>287221116True. I can't think of even a single fight she's won. Her loss against Soda Can-sama was particularly embarrassing.
>>287221086Yes I won the argument without even watching it. I defeated you at chess without even knowing the rules. There is no purer form of mental dominance than that. You were armed with weaponry and preparation and I defeated you with nothing but ingenuity and my bare hands. It was a war games simulation and I won utilizing nothing but pure abstract logic where you knew the lay of the land.
>>287221162>2 losers
Pan > Golden Freeza
Remember when Jiren was erased, because he lost?Me too.
Too bad we never got to see this fight.
What if Tien used his technique to split himself, and then fused togheter? Would that give him some bonus?
>>287221175
>>287213869Awww 𝑫𝑨𝑨𝑨𝑨𝒀𝑼𝑼𝑼𝑴!!!!!! Bitch
>>287221368Probably not. As seen in Super, even Potara fusions will not last more then an hour for mortals so even if there was a powerboost, it would only last for a short amount of time.If any Namekian or Cell would do it, then contact-fusion might be one vector in gaining power rapidly. But Cell might opt to just generate a lot of Cell Juniors without losing KI by splitting in half and just have a near endless line of Juniors being birthed and then fused with Cell that way. Especially since birthing out Cell Juniors at a certain level can be done without losing KI at all.
程なく。
>>287221646Cell also might opt to job pathetically to a one-armed child.
>>287221368I'm sure he would have done that already, if it were a viable tactic.Another example of this could be "why didn't Piccolo Jr. create a bunch of offspring like Daimao did, and then absorb them using Namekian fusion?"Many of these types of hypotheticals can be safely dismissed under the assumption of "they didn't, so it wouldn't work."After all, the characters usually know more about their own techniques than the viewers do.
>>287221689In a story where the good guys win in the end, some deus ex machina-tier asspulls are to be expected. By any logical means, Cell won but plot decided that he needed to lose somehow. Contrived, I know.
>>287221767>h-he didn't lose it was just the writingKek. What a cope.
>>287220614Bejita took the jab.
>>2872189773/4 Saiyans are what you're thinking of, because they'd have the Saiyan propensity to train and fight mindlessly, but with human emotions.
>>287220614He is a high caste Saiyan with high immune system and good genes unlike Gokek
Goku lost his virginity to Chi-Chi
>>287222398...'s father
Goku never lost
>>287222495Yup.
>>287222495Except to Jackie Chun, Bejita (4 times!!!!), Android 19, Cell (2 times!!), Golden Frieza, Jiren (Too many times to count!!!!!!!) etc. etc.
>>287222635Congrats, you've become Krillin.
>>287222628He defeated all of them.
>>287222635Spoken like a true Bejitabro!
>>287221212Kind of mean to point out Bee #3201 is a loser alongside Pan, bro...
>>287200542Shin is weaker than the super saiyans of Cell arc?
>>287223121Bee #3201 is a hero that died to protect his hiveJiren lost and doomed his universe
>>287223124Yes because he is clearly very afraid of Dabura and wanted everyone to gang up on him as he saw that as the only chance they got to defeat Dabura. He was shook to his core to see how strong Goku, Gohan and Vegeta were.
>>287223124Shin is beloved by female fans.
>>287222635Krillin has a hotwife, hes so lucky
>>287223332>Goten wakes up to this every morning
>>287223350>hotwife
>>287223351And Goku… And Gohan… And Chi-Chi…
>>287199108Special snowflake transformations.
>>287223332>Your brother is training with Piccolo today so I guess you are going train with me today, Goten~
Trapped in the hyperbolic time chamber
>>287223311Why do fujos love this runt?
>>287223496>Pan Yabba
>>287223332No Asian woman has an ass that phatBut daughter of a Latinx trans cutie would be> Miguel (ミゲル Migeru)[3] is the wife of Mr. Satan, and the mother of Videl. She is never seen in the anime or manga, and she has passed away, according to the Daizenshuu.https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Miguel
Come here, take off your pants, I'm snippin' off yer nuts!
>>287223871A man wouldn’t be able to give birth.
>>287223871Momotino.
>>287223919
>>287224004Damn.I wonder what a Bejita Blowjob feels like
>>287224085
Not a single day has gone by for the past 9 years where the word "Jiren" has not passed through my mind at least once.
>>287224470Kill yourself.
>>287224494Statistical probability.
>>287220245Why do 18’s feet have butts?
>>287223871>Hercule wife is trans >is dead
>>287224801Male suicide is an epidemic. This is NOT funny.
>>287224684>Stop hitting yourself!
My rival fucked my wife...
>>287225172Killin...
>>287218454Salagoy really tries to make us care for the one note pirate jobbers from an old gohan wank movie.
>>287224883>Y-you're the one hitting me!
>>287225339Kill yourself.
>replying to it
He killed the thread posting his forced meme about that weird man from bleach again…Are you guys excited for the remake? Do you think they will add any decent filler?
>>287214631Is that supposed to be Mung Daal? Is he crossdressing as Pan and did it?
>>287226110Following the manga means less filler, which is bad because the slice of life was the only redeeming part of super in my opinion. I can’t imagine they will want to over burden the animation team with too many episodes since that is what caused the quality of the original to dip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rBTlC6cSUQ
>excited for a SHITper remake
>>287226263Explain the joke
>>287226413Me in the middle with the green pants
>>287226413SEX with SHOTAhan...
>>287226413Bro thinks he’s part of the squad
>>287226477Pisskubros...
Imagine having to handwash their spandex speedos and onesies
>>287226110I am very happy considering it will get rid of all the daipa and Gay Tour references and flops forever.
>>28722641318's favorite men
>>287226471Troongibro…>>287226477Tenshinhan…
>>287226477Bejita....
>>287226477Trunks...
>>287226413
Tenny Hanny is front and center as the LEADER and SAVIOR of the Z Warriors.
Thank you Tenshinhan.
>>287226413FUARK
>>287226601>placement of handCreepren the sexual assaulter…
>>287226477Kek, PEEccolo will never fit in yes.
>>287226110Yes I think they will add some SoL scenes about Bejita with his cute trans wife
>>287226477SLUThan...
>>287226413Where is "HE"...?
>>287226722Fucking my wife!
>kills the thread stone cold dead againBiologicalmalegibros…
BLOCKED from ridiculous theory crafting that doesn't even make sense. The ramblings of a schizophrenic mongoloid. The squawking and squealing of an insane pig slopping down on a troth of delusional babble. NO MORE!
>>287226110i care more about the threads being active than the actual remake. having a HD vegeta kneel and so on
Don't you DARE misgender my Gigi!!!!
>>287226753You're so lucky Yamcha fucked her...
>>287227169
>>287227265This is fake btw.
>>287227265So this is how Goten was made...
>>287227265This happened.
>>287227265Kek, I remember this.
>>287227265This is not an accurate representation of my work. Please delete this.
>>287227265This is an accurate representation of my work. Please keep this.
Bimp
I'd just like to take a moment to thank the powers that be for not making more crossover marketing slop.That one we had years ago, with the Wan Piss jobber, and the blue-haired literal-who from that forgotten FOTM show they were pushing hard at the time was bad enough.As far as I know, even the videotoys haven't fallen victim to that shit since Jump Force flopped (I think it was actually removed from Steam itself KEK).If I ever have to see a chad character from DB babysit another moeshit "character," I'll puke.
>>287227479>Never took her as a concubine
>>287227481Tomorrow, it's the official Dragon Ball x Demon Slayer crossover
>>287227479Our money hungry kween
>>287227481Jump Force was delisted digitally on every platform due to licensing. I share the opposite sentiment to you on this topic, however. Imagine playing as Jiren beating the shit out of moeshit characters.
Pintar is in heat
Jiren lost to an inexperienced MUI Goku and was never seen again except in Heroes
>>287227654Source?
>>287227514It'd be too creepy for Bulma if he built a chamber at capsule corp and kept her trapped down there
>>287227680She's ovulating.
>>287227609Good. It sucked. >>287227704Bulma would never do this.
>
>>287227609A crossover in some random videotoy isn't a huge deal (although I'd prefer if it didn't happen at all).The worst is when there's some animated crossover, or even a manga, like the Wan Piss x DB one where everyone was cosplaying as a pirate. It's disgusting seeing some moeshit flop try to latch onto DB and leech some of its success, like a little parasite.I do NOT want to see some random moeblob teaming up with one of my heroes. They don't deserve to share the stage with the TITANS of DB.
>>287227794>hfw cheelai swoons over chadly
>>287227704>Gohan’s last thoughts were of his beautiful mommy wife
Remember that time Dragon Ball tried to be an overdesigned kodomo JRPG
>>287227854Yes, I do remember the Daima eraMoeshit Ball Shit indeed
>>287227265Chichi is very cute here, cannot fault Yamucha
>>287227481Don't jinx us bitch
>>287227801The One Piece x Dragon Ball crossover was pointless. Just 10 pages of character walking to a tea party. No fighting, no action, no tournament, just a brisk walk to a sissy ceremony. Pathetic.
>>287227878>we need a new character who gives the audience a Goku-esque vibe>just draw Goku with blue eyes and a vestBravo.
The One Piece/Dragon Ball crossover was Toei getting too comfortable with "goofy face slapstick fighting manga laugh at the funny faces" and not giving us what we came here for
>>287227929DBZ should have had a crossover with Sailor moon instead
>>287227923>funsexyDBWoman btw.
>>287227965
>>287227988Explains the NTR
>>287227970It did.
>>287228035Iconic as FUARK
>>287227988Proof?
Tinny? WINNY.
>>287228081
My wife has been improving her fighting so much since she got her new martial arts master Tyrone! She's so happy too! I'm so lucky!! Thank you Tyrone sensei!
>>287228157>>287228188The tale of every great athlete
>>287228157Avra
>>287228195Kuririn…
>>287228207This? Canon. Sailor Guardians were meant to be fucked by the Z Warriors (except Tien cuz hes a cuck)
Tenshinhan is ugly.
Tenshinhan is sexy.
>>287228282Is that a middle school uniform...
>>287228195I'm happy for you and your wife, Krillin.
I was watching Dragon Ball Z earlier with my super model GF and she bit her lip when Tenshinhan was on screen...
>>287228365>Getting cucked by an underage girlLaunch is such a lucky cuckquean
>>287228389KEKlinbro...
>Sailor sluts
>>287228404Tenshinhan only dates women over the age of 18 btw.
>Sailor Stacys
Stacy Scouts
In 2nd grade this kid said he like Sailor Moon so we called him queer all year lol.
In my workplace this guy said he liked Sailor Moon so we allowed him to fuck our wives
>>287228646Gold>>287228626Mold
>>287223577He gave Gohan the fuck me eyes one time.
>>287228626>Not fucking the femboyFaggot
>>287228692Men into moeshit are usually ugly and balding. Like tien.
>>287228753Krillin*ftfy
>>287228753True, tenSHIThan is fucking hideous and repulsive to behold
>>287228778...cried Krillin as Goku impregnated 18.
>>287228798I remember when this happened.
>>287228798K, b, c.
>tenbalduglymutantirrelevanthatedchinkweakhan meltdown
>>287228614>Tien is the one that has more sailors around him (one of them even putting her pussy on his shoulder)Tien is a studHoly CHAD
>>287226503theyre machine washable
>>287228887Tien asked her to respect herself more and get off him in that photo btw.
>>287228887He really is the best
>>287226503Imagine sniffing Guldo's boxers after a long and tough mission...
Tienchads LOVE Sailor Moon, moe, and underage girls!
>>287227265cute and is there more anon
>>287229000Goku...
>>287229000Goku…
>>287228986>tienchads LOVE Based, based, and MORE BASEDYup.Yup.
>>287229000Goku.....
Tien's tri-beam is Buutenks tier btw.
>>287229000Cuckoldku...
>>287229098It is known.
>>287229000Gokekold…
>>287229098Buuhan*
>>287229031>>287229059>>287229086>>287229093>>287229117>LOOOOOOL KEKOLDRY IS SOOOO FUARKING FUNNY SCHOLARS AM I RITEKys retard
>>287229000Cuckku...
>>287229031>>287229059>>287229086>>287229093>>287229117
>>287229098Yup. Tien is stronger than Majin Bejita btw.
>>287229000Gocuck...
Why is DBM so fucking BAD?
>>287229166This
I love my wife and would never let any other man touch her.
>>287227265This could’ve happened if Goku rejected Chi-Chi in the 23rd Budokai.
BOOM, slut, get on the floor, because wardy pappy G is gonna relay the score:>SCATBRATRaped and gaped!>PANPEDORaped and gaped!Now get down on your knees and get your throat LANDSCAPED.Pappy wappy wardy he runs the show,And pappy wappy GODren would like you to know:>PINTARI impregnate.>SAKURAKOI impregnate.Down at the gym I shift titanic weight,And so anything I fuck is SUPERSTRAIGHT.Imbibe, pup, accept your fateAs I dominate your threads and CACHINNATE.
>>287229689Based
