ITT: Art degradation.
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hiroyuki kitazumi. i don't even want to post pictures as it makes me angry
>>287205209What the fuck
>>287205290Nihei has never learned to draw digitally even after all these years.
>>287205290to be fairi'll take his dungeon artsyle over what the fuck he's using in aposimz
>>287205209That is one hideous looking Nilou
>>287205290I’m all for quirky aesthetic art styles, but tower dungeon’s art style really fucking sucks. For how simple it is, it doesn’t warrant the wait for each new chapter.
>>287205117i wasn't sure what you were talking about because the last of his work i'd seen was cca, but after a little searching i now see what you meanno solid dates on the art i'm looking at so i'm guessing it was the transition to digital that got him
>>287205114pic unrelated?
>>287205290The classic artist 'wake up one day and don't want to render no more'
>>287207618Based honestly
>>287205290>less is worseliterally nothing wrong with this. tower dungeon looks great still.
>>287207772stop pretending to be retarded
>>287205290Tower dungeon slop eating Nihei dickriders hated this one, boss
>>287205117>>287207476quick and dirty comparison (by decade?)
>>287205010quantity over qualitythe anime will fix it anyway
Joy Boy Vs Joyless Boy
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>>287205584Are there any mangaka that made a good transition to digital?
>>287205290What about composition?Any page with dialogue has at least 50% covered in huge bubbles with generic exposition and the faggy fanboys will defend it.
>>287205117>>287207864another one>all gundami know, i'm sorry
>>287207957Kentaro Miura and Makoto Raiku made the transition alright. Raiku kinda cheats with color pages though. He draws them digitally but physically paints a print.
>>287205010The artist was definitely drunk.
>>287205290These are two different styles, retard samefagging schizo. Nihei works alone without any assistants, he can't do what he was doing as a young guy in the 90s. Choosing a simpler minimalistic style is better than trying to do what you can't anymore.
>>287208074Nihei should at least hire someone who can properly explain how to set up his WacomYou probably think Fujimoto is a genius artist
>>287208030>He draws them digitally but physically paints a print.Sounds like a good compromise
>>287205010Well on left the guys used too much tone thus he got warned "use less tone or your manga gets axed" simple as that.>>287205086That doesn't count since is practically.>going from virgin girl to cock carousel frequent customer on the latest.
>>287207914pts luffy is looking at mets luffy is staring through me
>>287205209JFC, that had to be intentionally ugly.
>>287205010He probably just wanted to get it over with at some point>>287208195No way ink is that expensive
>>287208436does he do the 3d modeling himself?
>>287205010Fuji was done with CSM at Bang!
>>287208509i think so
>>287208436Don't let this guy get near an AI
>>2872051142020 is okay, but yeah, the late 90s ones are bad
what's up with artists not wanting to draw eye whites
>>287205086That's gotta be the best representation of the bell curve I've seen
>>287208349It isn't for the one making it but for the publisher that has to make millions of copies is an issue.
Akira Toriyama
>>287205209That's intentional I think. Those doujins with ugly semi-realistic faces had plots based on real life scandals and gossips.
>>287205086>>287208661Fortunately, Fujishima's art has kind of recovered a bit after 2014 although he never reaches his peak (1999-2004) ever again.
>>287205290based. less is more sometimes. detail finished off miura before he could finish berserk
>>287208102everyone thinks this
>>287208809Incidentally, one of the doujins he drew was based on a scandal of Fujishima right here. >>287205086
>>287207957Takashi Shiina. He's also evolved his art style to align with the current market, which I think it's truly remarkable for someone who debuted in the end of the 80's
>>287208973For comparison, this was chapter 1 of his first breakthrough work: GS Mikami
>>287208973>>287209016Mikami R34 kept me warm for many many nights
>>287209016...and this is his current serialisation.Dude's 60 years old btw.
>>287208436shirow was always a a hack that got popular thanks to Oshii
>>287208973>>287209016>>287209035nice, his new style looks modern but you can still see traces of his 90s origins
What causes some authors to degrade, while others clearly make great strides during their run? Is it just initial skill level?
>>287209095Hand ProblemGeneral Shift in aestheticsAccommodate for a Weekly Schedule without having 5 Assistants etc etc etc.
>>287208973>>287209016>>287209035not bad
No one posted Komi yet.
>>287210257>KomiI don't have the pic but it looks like that artist who drew self portraits as they go through dementia.
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>>287208436I like both desu, aesthetically very different but pleasing in different ways.
>>287205209Just give me the numbers bro
>>287208436I like sci-fi so I'm fine with it
>>287205114Wtf happened between 93 and 95? She went from a cute girl to an alien with tits. I like 90 the best I think.
>>287205209lmao he went full amerishit
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>>287205010Why did he stop caring?
>>287210849chicken scratch man broke him
>>287208436didn't he lose his mind?
>>287208661>bell curveBelldandy curve
>>287205010>went to plus so he could control his schedule>was borderline bi weekly and didn’t even pump out the average number of pages that’s usual for a biweekly or even weekly manga>no reported health issues >art still sucksLiteral proof he gave up on part 2. Denji and Asa turning into grotesque mouthbreathers overnight was so jarring
>>287205010Is the scar supposed to be on the wrong side?
>>287207914nahcant take preTS Luff seriously. zero aura on that bitch ass
>>287210343It's baffling to me that someone at the publisher's side of things saw this VOLUME COVER, thought there was nothing wrong with it and approved it. I'd understand if something like this accidentally slipped the eyes of editors/publishers in like page 140 of the volume, but this isn't something hidden in the manga. It's literally the COVER.
Miura's artstyle went to shit during his last few years of life.
>>287210943i kinda feel sorry for him on look back, pretty sure he was venting out his insecurities about how he's not as talented as his peers and was probably practicing a lot early in his career but seeing how part 2 turns out makes me think he's burnt the fuck out or just doesn't give a fuck anymore
after and before
>>287205010>ITT: Art degradation.But we already have a one piece thread up?
i know it's already been mentioned, but One Piece definitely fits the bill .Oda just scribbles and calls it a day at this point
>>287208973Okinu my love
>>287209035to add
>>287211677Every panel of One Piece has been a Garfield comic since its origin.
>>287207914They're both ugly as hell. One Piece has always had bad art.
>>287209035Anyone read it? I dropped ZKC like, fucking 10 years ago or more. Don't even know how it ended. But his art has actually gotten better.
>>287211435I had never noticed how bad his art had become in his final chapters, before it was handed over to his assistants and got even worse. Guts looks like an elf, wtf
Considering that there is a 35 years gap between these two drawings, all things considered, the degradation is relatively small. And well, to be fair the series is monthly.Translations never ever.
>>287211808We heard you the first time, retarded faggot. You don't have to reply to every mention of One Piece with>IT LE ALWAYS BAD XD
>>287212622I figured the armor was breaking all his bones and each time he was healed he was looking less and less like himself.
>>287209055Shirow was already very popular as the face of 90s scifi before GITS. Black Magic was one of the most innovative OVAs of the era (he did a lot of the animation layout work himself), and the Dominion miniseries were also big successes, Gainax even tried to use his popularity as a springboard with their Appleseed adaptation but they flubbed it hard.
>>287213787boiling lol
>>287209095Usually there's a curve where they get better until they start hitting physical limits, and art quality takes a fall. Sometimes art changes a lot when they encounter some external influence that makes an artist retool their style to look more like that.
>>287205290He got a billion times better. His old shit had such bad, mindless composition and design it looks ai generated.
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>>287214037it had soul
>>287214036No way, that has to be a wip
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>>287214036How do you go from this in volume 2
>>287208436This is the future that Hiroya Oku wanted
>>287214202To this in volume 30(That's Jiza on the left. First time we see his eyes)
>ITT: whining
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>>287208973>>287209016>>287209035Kurumada could never
>>287208074Nihei should find someone else to draw for him in the Nihei style You worthless buttmunching faggot
>>287211435Miura only got better with age but then he died like a faggot
>>287205086He learned how to draw his own characters better from the character designer of his manga's anime adaptation (Hidenori Matsubara).Same thing happened with Kishimoto and the Naruto adaptation.
>>287214604Nishio's designs for Naruto really stood out. Especially in the movies where his influence was more obvious
>>287205290Are there people who seriously can't see the massive appeal of bottom? Fucking hell. What are you lot doing on an art board when you can't even into stylized/minimal landscapes?
>>287214580He didn't exactly lose skill, but I think the transition to digital fucked him up.
>>287214277>>287214288Surely the second picture is from a flashback arc where they're younger, right?
>>287209073>you can still see traces of his 90s originswhere exactly?
>>287214673They've only known each other a year, it's an isekai.
>>287207914Post timeskip goofy has that conscienceless illegal immigrant stare. I feel like he's either gonna stab me or ask me to buy him a sandwich and then stab me when i actually do it instead of giving him the money.
>>287214844>>>/pol/
>>287214626In general good animators are much better at drawing than 99% of mangaka.
