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Is it already more iconic than Bankai?
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>>287207259
No.
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>>287207259
Bankai was never iconic
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>>287207259
>more iconic than Bankai
lmao no. If you're talking rule of cool Bankai has it beat. If you're talking which is the bigger joke Domain Expansion wins by a mile.
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>>287207259
Easily. No one knows what a Bankai is
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Bankai was always ambiguous shit. "My sword transforms and I get wacky powers". Domain Expansions are cooler, and easier to understand.
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>>287207520
>Domain Expansions are cooler, and easier to understand.
Explain them then.
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>>287207569
An innate technique is manifested inside a pocket dimension.
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>>287207569
>Domain Expansion is a bubble where the owner's magic gets immensely boosted
that sounds pretty simple
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>>287207569
The world of your mind, that which makes you "you". This is your domain, and you are its master. A Domain Expansion expands your domain outside into the real world. You create a region of space where you are the master and everyone in it must obey your rules.
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>>287207569
you drag your opponent into your own inner world where you have a massive advantage
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>>287207585
>innate
Too high IQ for me. My IQ is literally 34.
>>287207594
>the owner's magic gets immensely boosted
Magic like doctor strange magic or zatana magic?
>>287207600
I like this one, makes sense.
>>287207608
This one is also ok.
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>>287207649
>doctor strange or zatana
literally who
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>>287207569
>discount territory/reality marble
>you can use it with an signs or a chant
>it opens a magical barrier around you and the nearby opponents, trapping them inside your little fantasy world
>mostly costumizable due to Binding Vows
>the people trapped inside a domain cannot escape or resist at it unless they are effected by an open domain (no barrier but radius is bigger, aka teleport ability can save you), another domain or a special barrier technique that protect you (Hollow wicker basket or Simple Domain) or some rare conditions like a total heavenly restriction, which requires the user to consider it and customize the domain to extend the technique or recognize even tools or not-CE embed things as targets
>in a clash between domains, the winning one is the more refined one.
>usually the priority is: open domain(sukuna)>pacifist domain(Hakari,higuruma)>technique extension’s domain(gojo,megumi)>sure hit domain (eveyone else)
>at the end of a DE, you suffer burnout and cannot use the technique anymore unless you can recover yourself in some way

It is not just a fancy form, but it is a trade between “wow i can nuke my enemies” and “fuck , i couldn’t nuke my enemies due to their skills and now i’m fucked”.
Which means it is not as spammable as Bankai and must follows strict rules (unless the faggot cat gets full retard with the whole binding vow stuff)
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>>287207569
ultimate move that creates a bubble where the owner's technique can express itself in its strongest form
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>>287207569
If the author couldn't bother to explain it properly, then why should I?
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>>287207259
Yes, zoomers haven't watched bleach for the most partl, while jjk is hot shit right now at the same time anime is going mainstream
Anyone who denies this is retarded, you can dislike jjk but domain expansion is what all the kids now nowdays.
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>>287207716
best explanation so far
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>>287207520
>easier to underwear
If you have a hard time understanding Bankai you are a retard
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>>287207520
seethe harder zoomerino
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>>287208395
>Bankai! My sword is now a katana! (No other changes)
>Bankai! My sword is now a bunch of sword-trees, who dissipate into tens of thousands of microscopic swords!
>Bankai! My sword is now a fucked up mishmash of weapons!
>Bankai! My sword is now a loli (who returns to being a sword) and lets me grug smash!
>Bankai! My sword is now an intercontinental ballistic missile!
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>>287207259
JJK has already been forgotten and memoryholed out of existence as everyone moved to the next flavor of the season. Bleach is still iconic and influential 20 years later.
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>>287208439
Like I said, retard
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>>287208447
You don't need to sign your posts, you know.
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>>287207259
zoomers too young to know what reality marbles are
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>>287208453
You don't need to be a retard
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>>287207259
reality marble bros...
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>>287208460
People only care about FATE for the foids.
No one gives a shit or even is aware of how the magic works or what magical powers any characters have.
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>>287207259
normalfag zoomers know Gojo and domain expansion more than JJK itself
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>>287207259
It's the biggest mistake in the series. It turned the fights into "how can I pull out some bullshit to stop my opponent from pushing his I win button?"
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>>287208565
Normies recognize the frame and Gojo, because it was memed but they don't know what it actually does.
Hell, I barely even remember what it does and I actually read the damn thing. He blasts you with too much information until you get epilepsy attack or some shit, right?
The abilities themselves in JJK are too esoteric to be memorable imo.
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>>287208632
>He blasts you with too much information until you get epilepsy attack or some shit, right?
Pretty much. Gege likes math so Gojo's abilities are based on limits, as in "you can approach but never reach". His Domain Expansion expands the limit of the information you take in to encompass the entire universe, and that amount of knowledge all at once renders you catatonic.

It's a domain so powerful that the villains have to actively plot to lock him away because he's too strong and they have no defense against it.
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>>287208467
Fate lore is too advanced for the JJK smoothbrains
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>>287208683
>I'm ze bon of my soul
Fate lore is too convoluted even for most fatefags
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>>287207520
Bleach has like 3 "hard" to understand bankai and all of them are in tybw. 90% of them are like Soi fon's bazooka or dog nigga's giant armor. Deadly sentencing or idle death gamble are topping the list of how hard they are to understand.
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>>287208683
You can't put a fate ability in a tiktok short so JJk's fanbase doesn't know about it.
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>>287209000
Sure you can, just make shit up. That's how it works in Fate.
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Domain expansion kinda sounds like Minority World from Toriko and Magnetic World from Needless


If two fighters use Domain Expanion at the same time, what happens does the one with the stronger will overwrite the other or do they merge into this chaotic space of random rules anyone can exploit?
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>>287210018
The stronger domain will win the domain clash and delete the other
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>>287208683
Fate lore, and Nasuverse lore, is just AMWF propaganda
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>>287210097
oh, has it ever happened against two evenly matched opponents or was the author not creative enough for that? I suppose one of the two loses the clash in the panel and they either get beat down and alive or die because without their domain expanion they can't fight back.

In fact, has it ever happened where someone does their DE but the opponent is still overwhelming them or at least fighting evenly with them until the opponent now that they've been weakened a bit pops their own DE and overwrites the current one ?

because in Bleach more often than not it started operating on the rule whoever releases last dies, be it a shinigami, a quincy, or an arrancar whoever does their release last while the other one is already in their release state will lose
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>>287207569
basically a worse version of a bankai that relies on them being 10feet away from you so you can trap them in your donut steel bubble
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>>287207259
Heh you wish
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>>287210174
If they are evenly matched, then none of the abilities will take effect
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>>287207569
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>>287207600
Its just unlimited blade works?
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>>287207259
domain epansion is just stolen from fate Reality marble
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>>287210267
Do you think if Tosen hadn't crashed out his bankai would of had this area of effect too once he got stronger?
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>>287210174
>oh, has it ever happened against two evenly matched opponents or was the author not creative enough for that?
There has been a domain struggle that lasted long enough to save the ass of a bunch of characters who were stuck in a domain, as even the weaker domain can endure a bit if its close to evenly matched

There have also been cases of closed domains and open domains happening at the same time, in which case the open domain broke the closed domain from outside regardless of how strong it was.

Domain clashes are not super explored because domains are not super common, the main character doesn't even get one until literally the last fight, only the top 1% of sorcerers/curses have one. We only see 15 domains and in most cases its one sided as only one character in the battle has a domain. And some domains operate with weird rules that aren't even directly related to fighting, 2 for example force non violence until they are resolved.
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>>287208683
Fate has a lore? I thought it was just softcore porn
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>>287210174
>oh, has it ever happened against two evenly matched opponents or was the author not creative enough for that?
Kinda sorta. In the battle depicted in the OP both Gojo and Sukuna's Domains were evenly matched, but Gojo's Domain Expansion is a typical one that requires it to be contained inside a barrier, while Sukuna can just summon his Domain anywhere he wants. They akin that to like painting on thin air instead of on a canvas. As a result Sukuna can fluidly expand and contract the size of his Domain Expansion, and expanded it beyond the range of Gojo's Domain Expansion, allowing Sukuna's Domain to attack it from the outside, destroying it. Gojo then rewrote the rules of his Domain Expansion and tried again. And again.

Earlier there was also a 3-way Domain Expansion Mexican Showdown, but three Domains clashing with each other was too much for any of the participants to handle and all three Domains collapsed simultaneously.

>In fact, has it ever happened where someone does their DE but the opponent is still overwhelming them or at least fighting evenly with them until the opponent now that they've been weakened a bit pops their own DE and overwrites the current one ?
In that same battle Gojo conserves his own Cursed Energy (mana) by using other anti-domain techniques instead of his Domain to block or mitigate the attacks from Sukuna's Domain while attacking him directly.

Also one thing to mention is that when using a Domain Expansion, you can give up one technique you know to program it into the Domain itself. You lose direct access to it, but it becomes part of the Domain's rule itself, meaning attacks made by it are guaranteed to hit and cannot be evaded. The downside is that after a Domain Expansion is done, the area of the brain that handles that technique is overheated and needs to cool down before you can use the technique again. They call this a "burnt-out Cursed Technique", like needing to let a car engine cool off before using it again.
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>>287207569
You ever use a final smash that was more like a cutscene attack? Like when Captain Falcon runs you over with his car, that's a Domain
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>>287207259
It's the new Noble Phantasm or Bankai for the new generation. Just last summer I saw couple middle schoolers on an arranged school trip gushing over it.
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>>287207320
Bankai is literally the ssj of Bleach
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>>287207259
The best Bankai techniques are the ones that operate under Domain Expansion rules, like Senjumaru’s. As other anons have said, Bankais are pretty inconsistent ranging from just a bigger sword to living beings or portals to other dimensions. DEs are way more consistent, they're essentially the ultimate home-field advantage.
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>>287207259
Genuinely surprised that gaygay didn't copy the hollow mask in some way
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>>287210399
It hasnt been porn for three decades, find another argument zoombrained nigger
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bankai is like a cursed technique compared to a domain expansion
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>>287210582
It's an Extension Technique, but some Bankais operate domains similar to Domain Expansions. Gege isn't the first person to come up with the concept of a domain. Byakuya's Bankai, Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, is very similar in effect to Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine.
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Guise, the DBfags and Narutards are laughing right now.....
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>>287210546
Man that was so fucking cool
That was peak bleach
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>>287207569
the world transforms and i get wacky powers
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>>287207569
Bootleg Reality Marbles
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>>287207520
Eh the sure-hit effects of domains kinda hampered domain fights.
They look cool, but most of them boil down to an instakill with a cool backdrop.
Liked it best in Yuta's domain, bumgumi or dagon's domain when Bumgumi turned off the sure hit effect and the terrain and properties of the domain gives the user a massive advantage.
For example when someone uses a bankai or equivelant you know the entire fight is going to switch gears, but someone uses a domain you know it will fail somehow or not be maintained somehow because if it doesn't the fight instantly end.
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>>287210848
Non fighting domains like Higuruma's are also kinda cool
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>>287210381
Possible, as we know Bankai can evolve, so it could have had the same range or even higher
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>>287210908
Only higuruma's and even with him we never saw anyone actually engage with the mechanics of the domain.
Yuji tried for a bit the first time he used it, but then he did the Yeah I did it that and I won't deny it.
Sukuna didn't even bother to try.
Hakari's domain is a heal with a cool backdrop and the sole purpose of the hyperbolic sumo chamber was to give MANki another powerup.
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>>287207320
kek, this
bleach was only ever popular in third world countries like the US or Brazil
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>>287207259
Nah
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>>287210848
>but most of them boil down to an instakill with a cool backdrop.
literally what Bankai are
there is a reason you see most of them only 1 time in the entire series
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>>287207259
Girl here, I want Sukuna to expand my domain
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>>287211100
>literally what Bankai are
>there is a reason you see most of them only 1 time in the entire series
Not really though
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>>287207259
Domain expansion is so 'iconic' that they refused to actually show it in the latest episode.
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>>287208467
Reality marbles are fairly rare and not very iconic
Noble Phantasms on the other hand are always hype
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>>287211076
>replying to himself
seething much?
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>>287207320
>>287207513
dumb tourist
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>>287210473
>It's the new Noble Phantasm
Anon, I like fate but come the fuck on now in terms of broad popularity nobody fucking knows about those
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There is no move in anime more iconic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ZVMw0w178
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>>287207600
this explanation almost makes the power system of jjk seem like it goes off "playground rules"
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>>287210267
What happens here
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>>287207259
lmao no
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>>287207569
Reality marbles except you take out the coolest part of having to be absolutely fucked in the head to the point where you can overwrite reality with a representation of your distorted will. Instead, you just have to be strong lul.
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>>287211446
>What happens here
Peak. That's what happens.
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>>287207259
The only Domain Exception I've ever seen is Gojo's, where he does that finger thing and everything goes dark
A decade later, I still remember every single bankai
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>>287210745
True
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>>287211615
MASK ON
BACKGROUNDS OFF
IT'S BLEACH TIME
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>>287211630
>MASK ON
it's not exactly a mask. it's a partly formed second skull.
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>>287208683
Fate lore is getting dumber with the nonsensical timeline pruning and bs happening on Earth somehow resetting the entire universe
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>>287210741
Are you lost? This isn't the juan piss thread
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>>287210018
Seen this happen in a LN and iirc the one who activates first had an advantage. I don't really remember, it was weird.
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>>287207259
damn that artwork is terrible...
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>>287207520
Except it doesn't make sense because many CT's just wouldn't work for a Domain Expansion.
Like, what's Charle's DE going to do with his CT? How's a guaranteed-hit going to work for that?
>dude i instantly get my manga panel
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>>287207520
You’re joking
Right?
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>>287213318
Gojo domain has nothing to do with how the rest of his abilities work, you can only make a thematic connection
Charle's DE would probably be something unrelated to his CT
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>>287213318
Gege will make some shit up.
Unlimited void gives you brain damage eventhough all limitless does outside of the domain is create a barrier and 3 different flavours of laser beams
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>>287213413
It would make more sense if Gojo's domain made it, so nothing could move (not even the electric signals in the brain) inside the domain because the limitless would apply everywhere from every direction
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>>287208467
I'm still GAR for Archer
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>>287207520
>Domain Expansions are cooler, and easier to understand
Arguably that's the problem with it.
It's RULESRULESRULES.
Reality marbles, while the basis of the concept, don't have this problem (if you don't look too much into how it actually is supposed to work based on nasu metaphysics).
Bankai is simply a more coherent ability because "my sword transforms and allows me to do things I couldn't do before" is easier to write in a way that isn't nonsense.
If Domain Expansion was treated as a rare and extremelt exceptional ability that externalizes the aberrant nature of the user like UBW it would be much more interesting. Giving it only to Sukuna and maybe one other character with a distinctive technique like Papa Zenin, would have made it much more interesting.

But JJK is largely a collection of ideas taken from elsewhere, assembled in ways that only barely fit together, which is its biggest problem.
The parts that are mostly original are generally quite good, but nearly everything taken from elsewhere is just bad.
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>>287207259
>hoodweeb prolapse expansion
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>thinking that power systems with purely cosmetic and pretentious explanations inside a teenage oriented action comic book are hard to understand

Holy kek. Seriously, Gojo powers are literally telekinesis and Yuuji's energy punch. Skip all the bullshit explanation, makes zero difference. The authors will always make an excuse to use what they think it's cool and whatever.

>Bankai is the weaponized shape of the soul in your max level, super rare
>suddenly every named character has It
>and Bankai Mk2 it's a thing because fuck you
It really doesn't matter, its just sword turn into personal power and goes bigger boom
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>>287210574
The Fate Gacha (what kept the franchise alive) has entirely been about rolling jerk off bait.
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>>287207600
What happens if two domain clashes?
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>>287207259
>>287207320
Yeah
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>>287207569
they are reality marbles!
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JJK is just a knock off Bleach
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>>287210574
>It hasnt been porn for three decades
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>>287214328
it would be extremely painful
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>>287214328
The "finer domain" wins, and the losing one collapses. If two domains are equally as fine, then the winner is whoever holds out the longest. If you're physically unable to maintain your domain it will collapse, and if you run out of cursed energy it will collapse.



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