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Why isn't there much seinen or josei manga or anime with this combination of traits?

>broad, interesting premise
>cast of interesting characters that play off of each other well
>interesting cast of bad guys
>visually flashy action
>good balance of humor, action, and drama
>willingness to lean into dumb bullshit

You can't really find this combination of traits outside of stuff made for kids or teenagers. Everything else either hyperfocuses on one of these aspects, or has the antithesis of it (everyone is moody, generic criminals ad the bad guys, lame action scenes, overly grimdark writing and presentation)
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you already made this thread the other day, asking for seinen battleshonen
try Satoshi Mizukami
try Golden Kamuy
try >>>/wsr/ next time or just fucking lurk more and do your own research
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>>287215447
If you want battleshounen why don't you just read battleshounen? Are you ashamed of what people might think of you for reading "shit for kids"?
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>>287215447
>2deep4u thread
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>>287215447
>what is re:zero
???
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>>287215447
>berserk
>for adults
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>>287215447

Berserk ended in 2021
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>>287215447
Did you only read Golden Age? The later arcs of Berserk have a ton of goofy humor and Star Wars references
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>>287215447
>Why isn't there much manga or anime with this combination of traits?
>it's good
>it's good
>it's good
>it''s good
>it's good
that's all you said. you're complaining that perfect anime aren't commonplace
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>>287215447
dungeon meshi
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>>287215447
>>willingness to lean into dumb bullshit
This seems subjective and arbitrary.
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>>287215447
OP wants battle shounen that are serialized on seinen magazines so he won't feel embarrassed for reading shounen. Just look at the Ultra Jump titles. It's a seinen magazine but most of their manga are basically shounenslop.
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>>287215447
It's time to grow up and stop asking retarded shounen to grow along with you.
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>>287215447
You already made this thread and got recommended Tokyo Ghoul and Choujin X
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>>287219566
No, what I want is a battle shounen with more mature themes and characters, but doesn't rely on gore or sex. An actually adult story with the stuff that makes battle shounen fun
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>>287219639
Nobody is asking shounen to grow with them, they're asking seinen to tell actually adult stories instead of relying on shock value.

>take battle shonen
>make the storytelling more mature without leaning into gore or nudity
>profit
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>>287219778
>battle shounen
>adult stories
Yes you are. And modern seinen IS for teens and manchildren.
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>>287219716
>>287216221
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>>287219887
The word seinen literally means "young man", as in, ages 18 to 40
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>>287220071
>over 25
>young
Sis...
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>>287219716
read Malazan
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>>287220071
In practice, for modern magazines it means something else. Wouldn't want to label yours as "for manchildren" would you?
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>>287220226
You gain nothing by lying about what your target audience is.
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>>287219639
There's quite a few shoujo mangaka that eventually moved on to making josei manga. There doesn't seem to be a similar pipeline of shonen to seinen. There's Araki but he's largely making the same shit he's always made in terms of content.
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>>287220535
>There's quite a few shoujo mangaka that eventually moved on to making josei manga.
Like who?
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>>287215447
>interesting premise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>babbyserk
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>>287222684
The mangaka of Fushigi Yuugi has done josei, but also shonen manga. The recent works of the mangaka of Hime-chan no Ribbon have been josei. Clamp has done stuff in various demographics. I think some were josei, but they're more seinen and shonen along with shoujo.
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>>287223036
How about COOL's manga being shonen/seinen at random?



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