I don't mean the end of the arc 'as is' should have been the end of the manga but rather it should have led right into the big final war over one piece and ended the series on a high note, instead of doing a shitty timeskip reset and wasting everyone's time for over a decade
>>287244695Plenty of series should've ended after a certain point. The only reason they kept/are still going is to chase that sweet green.
white beard has aids btw
>>287244695Hmm Wano and fishman connected, less Zou shittery and Bigmom + elbaf maybe
>>287245451no, none of that dogshit
>>287244992Dragon Ball ended but still kept milking its fanbase with video games and specials for ever a decade before it "returned"
>>287244695>>287244992Pain Assault anyone?
>>287244695There's plenty of good post time-skip arcs. Older volumes simply sell more because there's more people who are reading OP, and likely closer to the start of the series. Later volumes assume you've already made the investment into the series to make it to the time-skip in the first place. It's the same reason say, for a game on steam - more people have early game achievements than late-game ones. Not everyone is there yet, and dropoff is a thing for all stories. Early sections of a long running series will always well more, unless a specific later book has an iconic moment (like Goku going Super Saiyan).
>>287245900>all this copelmao>Older volumes simply sell more because there's more people who are reading OPThey don't sell more retard, that's what they used to sell back then
>>287246112It still completely explains why later volumes don't sell as much though. There is still a greater threshold of material required make it that far, thus to warrant buying a later volume.
>>287245900>There's plenty of good post time-skip arcs
>>287246291Whole Cake Island, Dressrosa, Punk Hazard and Wano were great. Maybe they're not Water 7 or Marine Ford levels, but they're up there. The early arcs are extremely overrated. The only bad post time-skip arc is Fishman Island, and I didn't mention Egghead or Elbaf simply because I'm not there yet.
One Slop
>>287246379>Whole Cake Island
>>287247073Only good time skip arc.
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>>287244695yeah
>>287244695>>287244992>>287245838Cell. Games.
>>287244695No reason to buy it when it's free on Manga+
>>287244695We live in a digital age retard. Everybody is consuming new chapters digitally rather than buying them through volumes.This is true for every manga.
>>287244992>eventually lets Gray hitWait what?! We were robbed of a NTRkino ending?
>>287244695Yet it will continue being the best selling manga each year until it ends. It left Naruto and Bleach behind in the dust. You'll never see another manga last 30 years + and have the legacy, impact and attention it did.
It's just Dragonball dragging on after Namek but done at One Piece's scale.
>>287248361One Piece has never had an arc like Frieza where it felt like everything had an answer and an ending though. Cell Games was still acceptable but it was still a forced arc and Buu is when Dragon Ball descended into slop.
>>287244695Everyone with taste stopped caring years ago.
>>287248722Elbaph has been better than every pre time-skip arc retard, besides Marineford.
lost 40% of its sales in the last few years.
>>287248945I noticed you're a little bitch and refuse to acknowledge the impact of digital consumption. Why is that?
>>287249072Other manga have grown in sales physically so using digital sales as a cope doesn't work on me.
>>287249223This other manga also don't have 113 volumes nor do they even peak at 900k+. Easier/cheaper to get into a new series and buy the 10-15 volumes that contains the entire series.
>>287248799Elbaph has literally 1 (one (uno (ein (ichi)))) panel and that's it. It's one more than egghead and as much as wano which had 5 times as many chapters.The rest is either padding or slop for the speculation youtube channels
>>287248247>Yet it will continue being the best selling manga each year until it ends.It's already selling below 800k retard. Plenty of manga beats it every year.>You'll never see another manga last 30 years + and have the legacy, impact and attention it didWarm Piece has 0 legacy and impact, name a single manga inspired by it
>>287248140>>287248079>m-m-muh digital!many series are growing in sales, only slOP is declining rapidly
>>287249325>Plenty of manga beats it every year.Literally nothing is beating it. The cope from you cucks is something else to watch. So goddamn jealous of this IP's success compared to slop you like. Envious as fuck .
>>287248140>>287249072Sales have moved to digital...
>>287249355Except that's wrong
>>287244992>hyping up Sauron only to retcon him into a shota dindu ?
>>287244695>>287248945One Piece is only getting bigger with brown thirdies but they don't read they watch the anime.By far the biggest buyers of physical manga are the Japanese themselves and they're starting to lose interest.
>>287244695anyone with half a brain cell checked out of this mess a long time ago
>>287249355>many series are growing in salesAnd they still sell less than One Piece.
>>287244695I agree it could've ended much earlier and post ts just been inferior rehashes of pre-ts arcs
>>287246379Not one of those even touch Amazon Lily ffs.
>>287250437>Japanese themselves and they're starting to lose interest.Yet we have indications of that not being the case with interest in the IP itself booming in Japan. A good movie can net $200 million+ domestically. Which didn't happen in 2008-2011. The TCG is fucking massive over there. It's over taken Yu-Gi-Oh in local tournament play. Most are keeping up with manga weekly on their phone. I love OP and only own vol 1. I don't have space or the money to get all 113 volumes. Accept reality, it's not losing interest anywhere.
>>287244695A series ending when it should is more rare than a series being milked end to end. The only recent example I can think of is Demon Slayer. Used to be a lot more common in the 00s, Rozen Maiden, Black Lagoon and Shaman King all ended when they should've.
>>287244695Probably not right then. I guess there should still have been a timeskip to reconcile with the Strawhats being so outclassed leading up to and during Marineford.Everything post timeskip should have been handled differently and the entire rest of the series should have been about the length of Dress Rossa.
Salesfags crying out in anger kek
>>287244992>Mashima literally could not just have Lisa briefly return as a ghost to give Elfman closure BRAVO
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Is there a manga that makes faggots on /a/ seethe more than OP? Maybe HxH?
>>287244695No, because the appeal of battle shounen is the fantasy world and power system, so it's better the longer it goes and your image suggests One Piece was still very popular into Wano. When Wano ended, Oda announced the next saga was the last one, which makes sense. If you compare it to other series, you see the trend. Jujutsu Kaisen didn't overstay its welcome but it still gets shit for its last couple arcs. It's unavoidable. Every battle shounen starts messy but soulful, then becomes streamlined but soulless, and ends in a clusterfuck of nonsense. That's just how it goes.Post-timeskip has been good for some things. The Yonkou crews have so much detail put into them they make every former group look like background characters with a captain. And Oda can still tell a good story, he just tries to tell too many at once and the older he gets the more it feels like he has to force the audience to feel something instead of letting it happen naturally.Also, Marineford wasn't very good. There are post-timeskip arcs better than it. So it wouldn't have been a high note. And if it ended, I wouldn't have One Piece chapters to read right now, which would suck. What would I read instead? The 39 One Piece chapters and 4 Hunter x Hunter chapters that come out every year are the only battle shounen left. Everything else ended. Battle shounen hasn't been this dead since the mid 90s.
So how many more years left do we think it has? Roughly 2 more islands, finding the one piece, final war, epilogue?
Pisstards are so pathetic it's unbelievable
>muh manga salesManga sales are irrelevant to One Piece at the level it's at right now. One Piece as a franchise is bigger than the manga itself, and sustains itself from elsewhere. That is, toys, the TCG, the live action show, etc. Sales might be important to your favorite series, because it's smaller and irrelevant, but for One Piece, manga sales are peanuts.
The rest and timeskip were perfectly fine ideas. In fact One Piece should have more timeskips on a more frequent basis given the nature of the "world voyage" setting. The SHs speedrunning the entire story in basically 2 months has always been one of the biggest flaws of the worldbuilding, and the only reason Oda doesn't expand the overall time it takes them to do it is because he doesn't want to age up the characters and change their designs (this is something he explicitly said).The problem with post-TS is the actual story-crafting and manga quality themselves, which took a nosedive. Or at least a gradual but constant decline with no end in sight. And the focus of the story changed from the crew itself to random island side characters and pure lore without emotion.
>>287252871At 30 chapters per year, I hardly see it ending before at least 5 years/150 chapters, and that's on a somewhat fast pacing for how Oda writes arcs nowadays.
>>287246379>Dressrosa and Wano were Great
>>287244695Regardless of how you feel about the series going forward, Marineford would have been a terrible place to end the manga. Imagine if Dragon Ball had ended with Raditz or Bleach ended with Rukia getting kidnapped
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>>287250055dafuq?
>>287244695But none of that was the real One Piece? Only chapters past 1000 are relevant.
>>287253321>The problem with post-TS is the actual story-crafting and manga quality themselves, which took a nosediveThis. It really started around Sabaody, but has only gotten worse since then.
>>287244695At this point I'm pretty sure everyone who ever read it but stopped at some point is waiting for it to end so they can read it in one go. If you catch up now, there's a high chance you will stop at some point again before the end happens and then you will likely have to read it yet again to remember everything. It is just too unwieldy of a series.
>>287250724Chainsaw Man could have gotten milked for like 6 parts if fujimoto hadn't gotten tired of it mid part 2. The readers would have eaten it up.Also, you have to be a real fucking shonenshitter to think series being milked that way is common kek. The most common way for a manga to end is getting axed by far, and very few series get big enough that miking them for many years is still worth it even as sales go down.
>>287244695I still the actual timeskip was kino, i was there and the hype was unbelievable, so i think it was a good idea, the real problem started in fishman island or dressrosa dragging the fuck out of it for no reason and being longer than they should have been.
