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>introduced as a moral foil to arkos
>her backstory shows she was an evil psycho
>last chapter shows her enjoying seeing her new master getting brutally dismembered
evil women everywhere...
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>>287271266
>her backstory shows she was an evil psycho
That's really not what her backstory shows
>enjoying seeing her new master getting brutally dismembered
Helem kinda has it coming and I say this as her greatest fan
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>>287271266
Morally ambiguous women can be hot too.
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>>287271266
Diana will become the evilest women of them all.
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>>287271266
Yes, Zira a shit and Centuria has a poor selection of evil women. Diana and the witches are our only hope.
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>>287271266
>LGBT (Let's Go Beat Trash)
BASED!!!!
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>>287271266
>last chapter shows her enjoying seeing her new Evil master getting brutally dismembered
I don't think it's that evil.
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wait, whatever happened to the whole witch hunt thing? why are the evil women harassing this poor disabled homosexual instead of getting ready to travel north?
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>niggakos
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>>287271266
Actually...
>Everyone complains about evil women ruining everything
>Evil maid starts being less evil
>This results in her sparing the lives of the real evil women
>Main threats of the entire series could've ended this chapter if she were still ruthless
She just ruined everything by not being evil anymore! Mind blown!
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>>287271323
Built for HUGS
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>>287271323
How much suffering is author sama going to put her through to develop her into the character she's supposedly going to become?
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Do you guys think the Supreme Lord will end up being secretly evil the whole time?
Or is he going to stay reformed even when he (probably?) dies?
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>>287271438
The only reason they are even a danger at all is because Helen is fucking crazy. Elstri who is the one that actually started it all is pretty much a coward girlfailure that gets nothing done on her own.
If Helen dies, Elstri is pretty much fucked.
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>>287271323
>>287271500
A DERANGED
EVIL
FUCKED UP
MALIGNANT
DISGUSTING
BRUTAL
VIOLENT
CREATURE
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So, which look do we think Helem is going for?
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>>287271745
Maybe she can use her power to make an arm for herself?
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Who will kill Julian
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>>287271438
>>Evil maid starts being less evil
Getting wet for a mud doll is not reform.
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>>287271770
the Supreme Lord(JESUS) will kill that filthy heathen until he is down to 1 life
and then he will forgive him
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>>287271705 (me)
Also, Elstri isn't even evil. From her POV, Diana is just the spawn of evil that is destined to kill her divine ruler. >>287271717 but unironically.
She's stuck into basically the inverse version of Roko's Basilisk, where both doing nothing and doing something could be the reason the prophecy becomes true, but doing something at least gives you the peace of mind of having tried.
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>>287271745
The "I'll make Lukas gf into a doll who can cure me" kind of look
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>>287271717
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>>287271745
Elstri will restore her arm through sex
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>>287271789
There is no way the supreme lord isn't either his dad/ancestor or is litterally just him after some time loop shennanigans. They look litterally the same and both have the sea's blessing.
Maybe Julian gets taken over by the sea god and the reason Diana has to kill him (the supreme ruler) is to put him to rest.
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>>287271770
Diana.
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>>287271865
Kek.
I really don't think she realizes the struggle between demigods she has walked into.
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>>287271801
>Also, Elstri isn't even evil
While she has a reasonable goal, not only she enables Helem, but is also clearly starting to care for her
She also chose, instead of trying to reason with the protagonists so they can be brought before her king, to attack them over and over, getting innocents killed in the crossfire.
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>>287271530
>nile used to wear that armor
There's a chance there's a cute girl under there too
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>>287271801
>but unironically.
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>>287271414
There is still time for that.
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>>287271891
Maybe, but they have completely different blessings it seems.
So if it is Julian in the future, than he would have received another power boost from the sea goddess.
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>>287271926
But Helem isn't evil either, Helems literally just working to carry out Elstris plans, she's sadistic in her means but not evil
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>>287271942
I'll finally be able to feed my family of morally abiguous lesbians
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what's fire guy gonna do to altus
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>>287271801
>where both doing nothing and doing something could be the reason the prophecy becomes true
it's pretty funny that no matter what elstri does, the prophecy will come true anyways. she decides to let diana go, the witches will eventually find her and groom her into being their evil god, she does try something, well it didn't matter anyways
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>>287271926
imagin having these 2 at your mercy and rape correcting them
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>>287271937
i want John Hieroglyph to become a recurring side character and never take off his armor
>>287271992
>She killed her own parents and a random hobo for no reason but she is totally not evil
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>>287271414
They're setting up some keikakus before they leave and this one is going to be big
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>>287271992
Helem is a psycho who does what she feels like whenever she wants.
And since what she usually enjoys doing is causing other people suffering, she is indeed, pretty evil.
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>>287272059
we dont know if she had a reason to kill her parents (but shes definitely evil for killing the hobo)
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>>287272019
Had Zira told him about Altus he'd surely have killed Helem and Esltri.
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>>287272059
>She killed her own parents ... for no reason
Come on now we don't know the reason
>random hobo for no reason
That random hobo knew the most dangerous secret going, it was explicitly mentioned the palace would kill Helem and Elstri if it found out they stole Arkos body and made it into a puppet, silencing that leak was callous but it wasn't no reason. Imagine what Ceodric would have done to them and probably Zira too if he knew they desecrated Arkos body and were using it like a toy.
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>>287271438
Evil women only ruin everything if they are dumb.
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This manga is so natalitypilled that not being able to reproduce is given more gravety that turning into
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>>287272210
we need to save the natality by impregnating Helem and Elstri, those milk jugs cant go to waste
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>>287272210
this
Anyways, what eldritch abomination is diana turning you into anons?
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>>287272174
is he not included in the batch of clayshitters
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>>287271266
Evil women this, evil women that. Evil women correction, evil women redemption. Enough with the women! Can we all appreciate the character development of random mook Balbad evolving into /ourguy/ BalGOOD?
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>>287272224
Elstri will be the one to impregnate Helem.
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>>287272262
She only said the ones present there and he wasn't there, so no.
Also, Zira's endgame is probably going to be trying to get Helen to transfer ownership of Altus to her so she can be happy with her boytoy.
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Helem still remains best girl.
I can't wait what revenge she will pull on this shitty hotheaded homo Ceodric guy to get her revenge.
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>>287272333
only if your best girl ranking is determined by breast size
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>>287272052
>imagin having these 2 at your mercy and rape correcting them
For the last time, you can't correct a person through raping them, that never works.
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>>287272315
>Zira gets both the puppy-like good boy and the psychopath bad boy combined into one twink
She's so lucky
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>>287272356
Lets see we have an evil woman who does things to reach her goals compared to boring two good shoed girls around MC side.
She is more interesting.
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>>287272333
She's really the one that is carrying the manga's plot since the main squad just want to live in peace, the supreme lord is balls deep into "it is what it is" territory and Elstri is kind of useless alone.
There's also the witches I guess but so far all they have to do is wait for Diana to awaken her powers or whatever.
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>>287272269
Shut up male dog, women are talking here
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>>287272379
watch me
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>>287272412
Why do women like the schizo split personality thing so much for guys? They want a devil and angle?
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>>287272333
>Helem still remains best girl.
Trve
>>287272356
>only if your best girl ranking is determined by breast size
It's determined by evilness, and as it happens evil is stored in the boobs, making the two things related
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>>287271801
>>287271992
>>287272186
Sorry, anons, I was wrong. I'm sure that the sadistic necromancer who enjoys hurting people mentally and physically and her lover who is obsessed with killing a child are not evil.
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>>287272451
They just like novelty, unpredictability and some danger. A guy that acts consistently sane is unexciting.
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>>287272451
Women desire a man that is both threatening and dangerous, but also a provider
In civilized society, dangerous men are rarely providers, but women genetics haven't yet caught up with our rapid societal evolution meaning they end up dating criminals and other scum under the delusion that they will have a good side.
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I trust that miss goat isnt actually evil
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>>287272511
Helem is probably going to end up being evil af once her agenda becomes more clear, but cmon, Elstri isn't even the most evil white haired woman in this manga.
The queen is a hundred times more evil than Elstri and already killed her own daughter and probably caused Arkos to be a psycho (which got him killed too) yet no one talks about her. She's the actual evilest character in the story so far.
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>>287272560
>I trust miss kali yuga satanic goat of death harbinger of the apocalypse is actually le good
Let me guess, you also think Diana isn't a fucked up abomination that needs to be destroyed.
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>>287272511
>her lover who is obsessed with killing the literal antichrist
ftfy
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>>287271801
Elstri is too dumb to have a moral alignment or be a factor in the overall plot.
Honest to god the most exploitable retard in all of current manga.
>Gets explicitly told not to do whatever fuckass shit she is currently doing multiple times
>Knows her own powers are prone to fucking with her
>Knows for a fact that Helem is an even cunt
>Still keeps doing horrible shit just because she gets a kick out of it deep down

Can't even blame Helem for abusing her the way she does, in fact i think Helem should just turn her into a mud doll at the nearest offramp to do so.
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>>287272552
So like most men want a mommy type of a girlfriend who will never complain and will do all their bidding in silence?
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>>287272511
I'm glad you came to your senses but for the child part see this
>>287271717
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>>287272577
Helem isn't evil she's a good girl working for Elstri, Queen is the true evil
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>>287272619
>Can't even blame Helem for abusing her the way she does, in fact i think Helem should just turn her into a mud doll at the nearest offramp to do so.
Where's the fun in that?
But I feel sorry for Elstri if that was Helem dominant arm, missing these skilled fingers gonna hurt in bed.
In before we gonna get a sex scene with Helem doing it as amputee.
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she missed the gore show...
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What is Lacrima writing guys?
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>>287272662
>she
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>>287272673
Kill Ceodric later memo.
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>>287272673
just julian's name surrounded by hearts over and over
followed by a graphic sex scene plagiarised from one if the maid's bodice ripper novellas
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>>287272603
Are you saying that this is not a smile you can trust? >>287271914
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>>287272620
But the guys into the "mommy holy mommy" want a dominant woman, not a sub one. Gentle dom, of course, but still.
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>I actually got a chubby from this
What the fuck
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>>287272659
If Taru was committed to making Helem be irredeemable he would kill off Elstri just to have Helem resurrect her as her mindless plaything.
It would be in character for her.

But alas, twitter trannies need their /u/ ship to stay alive to keep buying the manga.
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>>287272733
You can be a dominant bottom type.
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>>287272673
yaoi fanfic
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>>287272619
She's just blinded by her devotion to the supreme ruler and is willing to do what it takes to prevent his death. He is both kind of a father figure and a messiah to her.
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>>287272747
>But alas, twitter trannies need their /u/ ship to stay alive to keep buying the manga.
Why retards always call fans of two girl stuff trannies?
Seeing /u/ threads they loath transexual stuff there in yuri works and hate on trannies as much as /a/ does.
For me real trannies are people who dislike content of two biological girls making out.
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>>287272744
>hair makes it look like she's blushing in the top panel
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>>287272811
dont engage with the anti yuri schizo
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>>287272747
That would just be masturbation anon. She could do that to any woman in the world if she wanted.
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So in short anyone can kill anyone here without any real loyalty to anyone?
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>>287272840
just like in real life
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>>287272433
Reminder that Balgood outplayed the evil women strategically despite being a based retard. Can you imagine? They kneeled and let him go.
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>>287272840
Just don't be a fucking asshole
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>>287272836
Kinda bet that author gonna get Helem semi-redeemed in her own evil way cause she will sacrifice her life to save Elstri saying it was worth it and fun for a while?
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>>287272815
>implying that she is not enjoying the pain
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>>287272840
If Elstri died the supreme lord would probably be slightly bummed about it (though I think he's so much of a nihilist at this point that he would just go "oh" and continue his day), but no one really cares about Helem aside from Elstri kek.
She's just treated as a psycho with a useful power by everyone else.
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>>287272809
Yea sure, but she's still too retarded to make her own choices.
Where do that leave us?

>>287272811
Hop on twitter right now and see who is following centuria.
I guarantee you it's all trannies calling themselves women so they can justify having a "gay" ship

>>287272826
You have a whole board you can use you know?
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>>287272901
>She's just treated as a psycho with a useful power by everyone else.
So like Ceodric then?
If he didn't have his healing power he would be just assmad psycho too who want to buttfuck Arkos.
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>>287272886
She might get a "human" moment like that to give her some depth beyond just being crazy, but I don't think she's ever getting redeemed.
In fact, I'm thinking the theory an anon said of her aiming to take over the Night deity's body is going to become true.
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>>287272919
>Hop on twitter right now and see who is following centuria.
>I guarantee you it's all trannies calling themselves women so they can justify having a "gay" ship
Sorry mate I don't use x or twitter at all so I don't relly give a shit about trannies there.
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>>287272333
>>287272419
Zana, Lalawag, and every witch clears Helem.
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>>287272957
Fair.
I think it's cancer too.
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>>287272939
Maybe she can't even be killed for real and current Helem is just a muddoll controlled by her real body which is hidden somewhere.
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>W-Wait anon! I'm sorry! Please don't hurt me!
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So what is the consensus on the king? He acts like a good king, but is he genuinely good, or is he hiding something?
Personally, I'm inclined to think about the latter
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>>287272886
>Kinda bet that author gonna get Helem semi-redeemed
Why would he ruin her like that?
We love evil women in here.
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do you guys think the crab planned elstri to be such an important character from the start? at this point it's clear she's the secondary POV and he's even trying to make her look better by turning helem into an actual irredimable monster. heck, from elstri's pov she isn't evil since we do know diana is indeed satan's spawn
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>>287272925
Yeah the gifted ones just swear to not fuck things up too much around the kingdom and are left to their devices pretty much. The only loyalty some of them have is towards the supreme lord like with some of the black knights. None of them are patriotic or anything like that.
Even the supreme lord himself is just kinda going with the flow and not caring about her wife being the icarnation of evil or the heart of a god he trapped in his basement going around.
There's clearly something very wrong that the supreme lord knows about that turned him into a nihilist that lets all his gifted ones do whatever. It is one of the main mistery's in the story.
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>>287273032
I HATE evil women
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>>287272747
>It would be in character for her.
No because she does genuinely enjoy Elstri
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeFuCMGiVbM
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>>287273019
I bet he is also bound to some God and he is as fucked up as anyone here if not even more.
I bet he fucked the goat and never called back so she decided to come to his dimension next in revenge.
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>>287273019
>So what is the consensus on the king? He acts like a good king, but is he genuinely good, or is he hiding something?
all of his spawn so far have been evil fuckers, so I'd argue he was the same until he became old and feeble
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As I suspected, he does sacrifice lives to heal people. No doubt they'll have to sacrifice a couple non-clay people to save the cute doctor if Julian beats this guy.
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>>287273003
Jokes on her I'm into this shit
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>>287273003
You think she was enjoying getting chocked out by Ceodric?
I could see her wanting to turn him into a doll too as some sort of elaborate kink.
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>>287273019
You have to be saint to deal with all these evil women all the time.
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>>287273019
He seems like he used to be good and actively managed the kingdom, but something happened that made him kind of give up on life. He doesn't seem to care about anything that happens at the moment, he's just kinda there.
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>>287273086
IIRC it's been established she's into men, too.
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>>287273079
Anyone has that beard edit from last thread?
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>>287273058
She enjoys fucking with her.
Unless you count threatening to kill her at the slightest pushback as true love then yea, sure.
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>>287273105
Obviously, you can't be an evil lesbian, only bisexuals are truly evil.
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>>287273041
>do you guys think the crab planned elstri to be such an important character from the start?
She's litterally the one character that set the entire plot in motion and Julian's foil as someone that is also trying to protect someone but through morally questionable means.
There's no way she wasn't supposed to be this important.
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>>287273081
So, this guy just chooses to not regenerate his arm?
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>>287271937
nyo... black philip was enough for me let me have hireoglphy man at least
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>>287273167
>So, this guy just chooses to not regenerate his arm?
Maybe he can't?
Maybe that is his gift enabler with that ghost hand power.
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>>287273128
>as true love
It's not true love, its just that she wouldn't kill her randomly, Elstri called her out on the bluff already. She simply enjoys Elstri over other people.
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>>287273156
>There's no way she wasn't supposed to be this important.
in her original design she looked like an undead witch, it's obvious he changed plans, but probably around the first volume
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>>287272629
helem isn't on this because she hates diana though, thats only elstri thing
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>>287273019
I think he's too occupied with tardwranggling the literal Night Goddess that he has tapped the floor of his basement and her followers to care about wtf is going with people's interpersonal drama.
Kinda understandable imo, he's still a shit dad for that but still.

Also, he has good taste in women so i forgive him.
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>>287273213
What if he decided to divide Elstri draft character into current Elstri and Helem and make them fuck?
Hot.
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>>287273081
>if Julian beats this guy.
He's probably going to join the main cast. He's too handsome and heroic-coded not to.
If he cared about the kingdom or the supreme lord, he could be kind of the "doomed hero" archetype, but he isn't even from the kingdom kek.
Plus he is going to go batshit when he discovers that Helem turned his idol into a puppet.
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>>287273174
It hasn't been the same since learning Black Philip is a female goat
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>>287273003
Seeing smug evil villains get scared shitless for once will always be kino
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>>287273041
>>287273213
I think he probably redesigned her so drastically because he realised he wanted her to be more important to the story
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>>287273213
First draft Elstri was so much cuter.
People can fight me on this but i will not care.
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>>287273250
>Plus he is going to go batshit when he discovers that Helem turned his idol into a puppet.
Well in that moment either Helem kicks the bucket for real or Ceodric gets offed for real by real Arkos emerging in there for a minute.
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>>287273213
She might have originally been both Helem and the second POV character, but the author realized that the second POV being purely crazy/evil would be boring and separated them into the crazy necromancer and the morally ambiguous doomed "heroine" trying to prevent the inevitable.
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>>287273213
>>287273261
>>287273269
I assume old Elstri became current Helem.
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>>287273041
>we cant negotiate with him or manipulate him
>Helem just literally manipulated him into accepting her 'gift'
?
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>>287272811
>Why retards always call fans of two girl stuff trannies?
It's usually the ones with 3 different flags next to their username who are into that.
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Helem should ask Lalawag for a hand joke.
Hmm Helem would look funny if she got Ceodric other hand for her destroyed one.
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>>287272811
It's really just 2 or 3 schizos that live on this site and permaseethe at every story that has lesbians in it for the entire multi-year duration.
If you have been on /a/ long enough, you will even start recognizing them by the way the write.
Some people just love to hate.
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>>287273318
Anon, have you ever considered Elstri might be wrong in her assessments?
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>>287273302
>and the morally ambiguous doomed "heroine" trying to prevent the inevitable.
If diana does become evil I can see her and julian finally becoming allies down the line
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>Helem WILL die in a pathetic fashion from one of her plans going wrong
>She'll beg and grovel to Julian to save her life and he'll refuse
Can't wait.
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>>287273213
I was thinking, what if the first prophecy she foresaw was only wrong about the age and the power of gifts can only delay the inevitable?
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>>287273406
Yeah...
>>287273426
>Helem will die in a pathetic fashion
Doubt it.
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>>287273392
>calls other people schizos
>thinks anyone who doesn't like lesbians is just "2 or 3 people"
There is a frightening lack of self-awareness on the internet these days
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>>287273003
>returns to smug bitch mode immediately
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>>287273392
Nice revisionism retard.
Reminder that Moot made an entire board for yurifags because they keep shitting up threads endlessly.
Nobody complains about barafags because they aren't nearly as insufferable as you guys.
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>>287273081
It's obvious that they will get to an agreement where Julian sacrifices a few of his lives so he can heal Atoria
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>>287273465
well the 2-3 schizos he's talking about are very obvious and the most well known ones
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>>287273465
I call them schizos because they act like schizos and I know it is the same couple of anons because I've been here long enough to know them (you) faggots kek.
I don't think I need to tell you, but seething for years upon years at anything is the behavior of a well adjusted human, anon.
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>>287273426
>>287273456
I truly do wonder how she will die
I guess I assume she will die because that's what 99.9% of mangas would do, but you never know
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>>287272210
Abe approves this message.
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>>287273557
I don't even know who you're talking about but anyone who starts blaming all posts they don't like on one or two "certain people" just comes off as crazy to me. Not everyone is your boogeyman bro
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>>287273498
would you rather have this manga not be discussed on /a/ even though it is not a yuri manga?
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I started reading because I was told this was a WEEKLY manga
I was SCAMMED
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>>287273619
welcome to the club
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Helem will live as Elstri's bound muddoll.
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>>287273019
He seems pretty decent if permissive to all of the evil women that work under him (but that's pretty common in manga).
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>>287273650
That'd be cute.
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>>287273619
It is weekly
Except when it isn't
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>>287273650
>Rewarding Elstri for being a complete girlfailure the entire manga
Yea, seems about right.
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Killing Helem is too easy, she needs a loli to order her around and punish her for her crimes for life as her sextoy.
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>>287273422
Apparently she wasn't that bad before Mira's demise, we've yet to see how she will react when she finally learns Diana is her daughter
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>>287273619
It was weekly for 2 years but now the crab had to go to g*rmany
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>>287273684
To me he gives more of a vibe of someone that has more or less given up on trying and accepts things as they come.
People in his family keep dying he doesn't give a fuck, the child of the night is out there and there's a prophecy about it killing him and he doesn't give a fuck, his squad of gifted ones are at each other's throats and he doesn't give a fuck, etc.
Even the wars that Arkos fought seemed to be more his idea because he was bored than the supreme lord's.
He's either worried about something else or so deep into doomerism for some reason that he doesn't care about anything much.
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>>287273650
Nah. It would be better for her to die for all her crimes. Plus her relationship with Elstri is just gross.
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>>287273064
LACRIMANGA
YESTERDAY.
NOW.
TOMORROW.

FOREVER.
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>>287273775
This ending is so fucking hot and based it will never happen
Helem as a stockholm syndrome slave for someone would be so good, not even a mud doll, the real Helem
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>>287273775
Holy Grail...
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>>287273800
If I didn't know the actual context, I'd joke that you just posted what would happen if Nile met Helem.
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>>287273805
>originally ruled as a tyrant when he got his powers
>become a good and wise king for a while
>now still tries to be good but is becoming full on doomer/nihilistic or is too busy worrying about something only he knows
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What if Helem real plan was to bound her dolls to Ceodric and make him use them up and somehow if their life essence will enter him for healing other purpose he will automatically become her mudddoll too and then she will make him rip off his last arm and hit himself with it?
We know that gifted ones can hone their gift to higher state and Helem one is still a wildcard.
Maybe being the last of her group if reversed mean she is the strongest.
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Actually Lacrima will die and it will be even sadder than what happened to Angvall.
That's why you guys shouldn't get to attached to her.
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>>287273805
He did get pissed off with Elstri's actions in the village so he's hasn't quite given up completely. He probably has resigned himself to his fate though.
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>>287273746
You have to give it to her for trying harder than anyone though.
Diana and Titi aside, she's the weakest major character in the story and still giving her best to stop the antichrist or die trying, even after getting BTFO'd multiple times Team Rocket style.
She's a total girlfailure but one with dedication.
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>>287273619
time to update that image, bro.
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>>287273810
>Plus her relationship with Elstri is just gross.
Faggot detected.
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>>287273907
I think it will happen too but at this point her deathflag is so massive that I'm thinking she will survive as a subversion, just like what Titi did.
The one which I'm pretty sure is going to die is Luka, but probably much later on.
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>>287273810
>Plus her relationship with Elstri is just gross.
Chad detected.
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>>287272511
She's a lesbian, thats all I nedd to know fhat she is evil
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>>287273213
That is significantly better. We were robbed.
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>>287273064
I wonder, did they realize this particular scene was the point were the manga started becoming popular?
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Does story really need Zana
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We need an evil straight girl character who will want to rip off Julian dick.
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Our hero.
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>>287274048
Not my hero, I prefer evil bi/lesbian woman to homo chad.
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>>287273858
It's what will happen when she meets Amber
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>>287272919
>Yea sure, but she's still too retarded to make her own choices.
>Where do that leave us?
Going after Diana was entirely her own choice though? The Lord straight up told her not to do it and she still chose to fight against demigods.
She's just getting thrown around by Helem at the moment since she's her only real ally, but Elstri is more autonomous than you think.
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>>287274048
>hero
>a guy who worships that psycho Arkos
?
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>>287274124
>but Elstri is more autonomous than you think.
Yeah, her prostituting herself was her own decision, everything bad that has happened to her so far was because she had it coming
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I unironically want Helem to kinda get away with it, but I do realize a sort of karmic justice is inevitable
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>>287274180
would having her power ripped from her and being humbled or mindbroken into being Elstri's slave good enough?
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>>287274143
Arkos was a HERO and stood for the liberation of peasants.
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>>287274216
>t.Cedric
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>>287274168
And she's gonna keep doing whatever she can do even if bad things keep happening to her. She's a tragic doomed heroine archetype used as a villain. She's going to deserve all she gets, but she has her goals.
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>>287274016
They definitely did!
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I'm glad Homo beat Yuri
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>>287274274
/y/ has only beaten /u/ for now
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>>287271266
>crab's comment on OP zyra's face
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>>287274211
Yeah
That's a sort of punishment but also she kinda gets away with it because Elstri would not be too evil to her
Kind of a middle ground
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>>287274016
Lacrima joining the cast was kinda the moment where the story stopped being villain of the week. At the start no one really knew where the story was going other than Elstri sending goons to harass Julian every so often kek.
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>>287273907
Lacrima's endgame is to bear Julian's many children so she is protected by the spirit of Shinzo Abe that is present towards the entirety of the manga so far.
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>>287273498
Barafags get violently bullied and they don't have the resiliance or numbers other fags do.
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Man, it's been almost 90 chapters already and it still feels like the manga is just starting out.
We still barely know anything about the witches, their city (we didn't even know it existed until 2 chapters ago lol), the supreme lord, the sea deity, most of the kingdom's gifted, etc
I wonder whether the crab has a certain story length planned out or just some story beats and is writing on the go.
This is looking like it is going to be a long fucking manga.
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>>287274048
Unironically one of the most based characters in any ongoing manga currently.
I even say this as an evil woman enjoyer.
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>>287274352
>mud doll
>bearing children
?
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>>287274274
>I'm glad Homo beat Yuri
Wanna bet that Ceodric remaining arm gonna be ripped off and inserted in his ass in his final moment before dying and turning into Helem mud doll?
Imagine if Helem got his power to use to make her mud doll army a semi-regenerating one.
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>>287274474
She doesn't know that.
Also, isn't that still her human body, divine gift and everything? She must still be able to procreate. She would have noticed if she didn't have a period or something like that.
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>>287271266
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>>287271266
true evil love
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>>287274492
Titi will Tank mud Ceodric with the power of unabashed heterosexuality
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>>287274548
NTA but to me it seems that the resurrected bodies are very much flesh and blood just like any other non-resurrected human being, and Helem is just using mud as a medium to perform the resurrection of the body with her gift. Lacrima has been shown to have a normal looking heart, and Altus also bleeds like any other human. There is even some uncertainty if the actual soul and memories are actually preserved but dormant in the subconscious of the resurrected body, as we can see happening with Altus/Arkos.
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>>287274743
Was the reason for her facepaint ever mentioned? Is she from a tribe or something? All I remember is that she's an orphan that Angvall picked up during some campaign.
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>>287274811
>since when were you under the impressing my gift wasn't activated
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>>287272832
hot although she seemed more into it in the manga
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>>287274850
>>287274743
Jokes aside, I wonder if she will ever make a pact with a god to become stronger
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>>287273576
>>287273426
I think Helem will either survive or die a hero saving Elstri/Diana/Some other member of royalty
>>287273286
Why would real Arkos kill Ceodric if they were "friends"?
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>>287274751
>There is even some uncertainty if the actual soul and memories are actually preserved but dormant in the subconscious of the resurrected body, as we can see happening with Altus/Arkos
I assume the gifts are also tied to souls rather than bodies, since Julian at least gets his power from the souls of others that have been tied to his.
Also, the reason the dolls get a weaker version of the gift could be just that the soul is dormant, which would explain why Altus was able to use his full power when in Arkos mode.
I wonder if the Lacrima doll is actually usually running on OG Lacrima mode, since she must have enough OG Lacrima memories to not notice that she was resurrected. Amber and Altus both can't remember their previous selves when on "puppet mode".
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>>287274023
Yes. How can maximum suffering be achieved if the story is stuffed with characters with too much plot armor to die? Zana is just important and cute enough to stick around, but just plot irrelevant enough to never be safe. She will die for Diana or Julian, eventually.
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>>287271266
it's weird seeing helem so vulnerable
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>>287274886
I thought she was going to just die and become the next Mira/Angvall of the story, but her surviving and getting panels like these >>287274743 makes me think that at some point Julian is going to lose and in her desperation she is going to be approached by a god like what happened to Julian during the shipwreck.
It's either that or she gets doomed to irrelevancy or dies, but I think she has beaten the deathflags pretty solidly at this point and that crab isn't going to shelf her character at this point.
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>The entire manga's plot revolves around two dykes that nobody on either side likes because they are horrible people even by incest baby standards
What this Kani mean by this?
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>>287274023
yes, she is part of the family
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>>287274970
I mean, evil or not getting your arm torn out still hurts kek. She's a necromancer, not a berserker.
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Anyone read his first work? Is it good?
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>>287274977
cunny?
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>>287274023
>DUDE
>TAIL LMAO
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>>287274977
Careful, anon, there are a lot on anons here who would fight tooth and nail, insisting that they are actually not evil
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>>287274970
Elstri is so cute, protecting her girlfriend, I hope she gives Helem lots of healing sex after this
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>>287274977
anon, she is trying to kill the antichrist who was born to kill the King
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>>287274977
>nobody on either side likes
But I, the reader, love my two dumb team rocket girlfailures and enjoy them on page
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>>287274023
Her only purpose is basically to have someone in the main party that can be killed so the rest get character development.
Diana is obviously not dying and Titi soundly beat the deathflags recently, while Julian could die but much later on and Lukas has too much plot going on with the supreme lord, the queen, etc to die any time soon either.
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>>287273810
>Plus her relationship with Elstri is just gross.
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>>287275029
I read the Yaoi 1shot that he wrote.
It was good and cute to be honest but i'm kinda conflicted about it.

No idea why Kani like gay shit so much but he sure knows how to write it.
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>>287275029
Wtf how is it that the hands and arms look well proportioned there yet at the start of Centuria they were a trainwreck?
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>>287274023
Not really, as other anons have said, she exists to be a character that can be killed with little to no consequences
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>>287275126
>yaoi 1 shot
he drew a yaoi one shot?
>no idea why Kani likes gay shit so much
Maybe he just does. Maybe he is gay.
Who knows.
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>>287275078
>anon, she is trying to kill an innocent child with no blame who she thinks was born to kill the King
ftfy
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>>287274886
It seems like she's going that way. Titi spent the entire namek desert fight feeling helpless and unable to support Julian and co. After the fight she's reduced to a literal burden on Lacrima and the party is forced to grovel to our OC's ex girlfriend to help her. She knows she's a useless fuck and she hates it.
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>>287275185
>who she thinks
all of her prophecies besides one have been right so far
and since this one is about the King, the man who saved her life she probably assumes this prophecy is right
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>>287275189
>She knows she's a useless fuck and she hates it.
So like Elstri for Helem?
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>>287274977
I love Helem and Elstri and they're why I read the manga
>>287275043
AND THEY ARE EVIL
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>>287275184
Gonna be honest, i don't actually know if it was Tohru.
Some anon posted about it in one of these threads a while back because it looked remarkably similar to the artstyle he has, so i just read it.

That anon might have just been trolling but if it was a troll the guy is either extremely good at emulating other people's artstyle or it really is Tohru under a different pen name.

I would like to know too because i can't find it anymore.
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>>287272620
Morphed from a desire for a nurturing mother for your children who will also be able to defend them if the need arises. Men see these attractive features and mix them up with sexual attraction without parsing the two sides,likely because many stop thinking at SEXO, never visualizing the future beyond, especially when it's fantasy characters to begin with who you can never feasibly start a family with.

That's one of the pitfalls of having our attractions pointed toward the fictional, normally this attraction would be towards a woman you could take these urges to pursue and build a future and a family, but so much of this drive just ends up in a tissue.
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>>287275219
Elstri hasn't shown that kind of self-contempt and Helem is only enacting Elstris plan
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>>287274023
It's obvious she is going to be killed off trying to protect Diana or something, but it would be cool if she could have her own arc before that happens.
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>>287274459
>we didn't even know it existed until 2 chapters ago lol
It was literally mentioned during the last fighting arc
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>>287271530
will we ever see John Hieroglyph again?
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>>287271266
have you seen what is airing this season? just recently fire force ended and more than half of all of the females were evil, and now we have yomi no tsugai with the blonde evil adoptive older sister
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>>287271340
>Lesbians
>Getting
>Beaten
>Tremendously
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>>287276274
>yomi no tsugai
fanservice? any reason to watch? also the evil women in fire force all won, just like elstri and helem will
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>>287273019
Why does he let the queen do whatever she wants
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>oh no...anyway I'll go find a gift user that can regenerate limbs
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>>287276369
Yeah he loves his evil women, he loves his evil women...
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>>287275029
Something I noticed is that many of his one-shots deal with immortality (besides lesbians)
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>>287276336
>any reason to watch?
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>>287275126
the author of mushibugyou made yaoi doujins,some of them just try some different stuff lol

>>287275150
have we considered that humans just have big ass hands in centuria as a trait
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>See thread
>See csm and dbz tourists

Well its over for the comfy threads.
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>>287276790
>dbz
why would they be here
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>>287271266
She is evil because she persuaded Cedric to not go further
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>>287276790
where?
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>>287274048
based
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>>287274977
Its really audacious of them to beg a higher being for help
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>>287276992
Helem is an audacious girl
No sacrifice is too great in name of the grand keikaku
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>>287271266
Is this manga good?
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>>287276855
If Helem dies and that causes Lacrima to die, then everyone will knows the current Lacrima is a doll.
They'll also know that the Queen killed her.
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>>287277244
>Lacrima
>dying
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>>287277298
she's done it before...
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>>287277062
Best manga currently releasing and has everything you could want in a manga
>Dark Fantasy
>Eldritch Horror
>Evil Women
>Eviler Women
>Sex (literally)
>Family building MC
>Dykes
>Faggots
>Musclewomen
>Cunny
>Grooming
>Occasionally a fight scene
The only flaw is the author has been taking a break every other week recently making it biweekly instead of weekly
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>>287271340
>>287271705
How hard do you think Helem is going to fuck Elestri after this to vent her frustration at both losing her arm and Elestri getting off scott free?
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>>287277347
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>>287277459
What if being injured and wimpering awakens something in Elistri, and she tops for once?
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>>287277428
The first half of your points sounds really appealing. The second half sounds icky.
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>>287277506
It's not for you then go read Frieren or something, you'll get more updoots for posting about it
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>>287277493
That would be fucking incredible
>Helem sulking
>Elstri fucks her out of it
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>>287277428
>Faggots
no such thing
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>>287277554
Cedric seems a little gay for Arkos
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>>287277554
The guy whose sister is his weapon.
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>>287277554
There was the nail throwing guy who wanted to suck off the shota with a sister complex by saving his life for no discernable reason, also Ceodric seems pretty fucking gay
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>>287271266
MAIM evil women



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